From what I've gathered, pretty much everyone on this side of the Atlantic approach GMOs with caution. I think you have to have a GMO mark on the packaging if over 1% of the product contains or has been fed something genetically manipulated.Originally Posted by Pepe
That bolded bit is really great.
You keep lolling at those imaginary twats, John.
It's illegal to grow GMO products in EU nations. It's the dumbest law ever.
I thought that was common knowledge so didn't put that in. The 1% for things outside of EU was aimed at Pepe as GMOs are way more widespread and don't have to be reported in the States.
I'm a twit
Meat is muder? Yeah. So are antibiotics. Enjoy the perma-syphilis.
Two people comparing killing animals for meat to killing bacteria
109% super serious tbh.
Is Reg one of those preachy ones?
Not preaching. Look at my previous post: many a chicken has been eaten. (And pigs, and cows...)
We grow enough food to feed the entire world, the problem is distribution. The USA pays farmers not to grow certain crops to keep prices high.
It is a good question, though, of what would happen to all the cows. You could let the militant vegetarians take charge of them and see what happens.
We could revere them, and let them (and us) fart everything out of existence.
Of course, you might well say we'd still have milk, but I'm not sure that's any better than just murdering the poor blighters, in ethical terms.
Cows would go the same way as every other animal that we don't need for anything, they'd do ok as long we didn't need their homes and they didn't get in the way. Of course we're ignoring the fact that most farmed animals would not survive if we just turned them loose. Horses in particular are totally shit at being animals.
The dairy cows would all die quick time simply from not being milked. Mass Mastitis. Yaaay.
Distribution would still be an issue whether we eat cows or not. But imagine a farmer. Right now he devotes a certain amount of land and resources (especially in today's high-tech farming) to growing cows. Once that is no longer lucrative, what will he do? Donate his land to the cows so they can live happily ever after? Keep putting resources into keeping them safe? The fuck will he, he'll get rid of each and every one of them and use his land to grow whatever is lucrative at the time.
All food involves killing a living thing, right? Plants may or may not feel pain but you're cutting it short to harvest it. Or whatever. I dunno.
Being tasty and nutritious as well as relatively docile can be extremely beneficial on a species wide basis. Think how many more generations of cattle or sheep there have been since they were domesticated. Their genes have effectively outsourced foraging and protection from predators, quite clever really.
Breatharians, clearly the way forward.
Nah, just don't worry about it. You're offing plants and animals but breeding them as well to extend their purpose as food. You could try natural causes farming but then you'd get into this weird supply / demand scenario where you're picking livestock on the basis of how much road they've left to run.
On top of that, Farmers would be trying to knacker them ASAP. I for one wouldn't fancy a steak that's been cut from a foot and mouth case.
Or skipping on the TB vaccines because you need some space.
I'm not even remotely close to any kind of vegetarian, but it does surprise me how worked up some people get over the existence of vegans/vegetarians. It's like they find them vaguely threatening.
Was this thread inspired by this?
Some of the reaction is probably better: http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/e..._contentcard34
The seethe on the waitress.
That's exactly the sort of thing I was talking about at least. It's terrible.
http://www.rferl.org/content/georgia.../27766236.html
I didn't realise hating vegans was in the remit of the far right? It's like when anyone is a cunt they are immediately far right.
I don't think they were being called far right because they hate vegans. I think they also happened to be far right. I'd imagine there is a correlation though. Vegans will generally be lefties too.
Sounds like dangerous stereotyping to me. Nazi.
A vegan campaigner died up Everest. Her partner was pretty cut up about it. All over BBC news. Sad times for the vegan nation.
I don't get it myself. Eat meat, we are fucking omnivores. Have a mixed diet.
I read that three times looking for a joke.
I'm pretty sure there is one and I just don't get it.
I did a month of veganism in January, which was perfectly acceptable. I largely cook vegan, save for occasional use of eggs and cheese, and haven't used meat at home for nigh on 6 months or so. I'm in what's oft referred to as the flexitarian camp- eating meat but doing so sparingly. In my case it's just when having meals out.
I simply think we over consume meat, it's really quite unnecessary and I'm happy to reduce my consumption as most dishes I'd cook at home aren't improved at all for me with the addition of meat. For the same reasons, all of my fresh veg is from the local organic grocer as they source locally, reducing the carbon emissions from it's transportation.
I've no issue with GMO by the way, and argue in favour of it's use regularly.
Merse is such a scenester cunt.
Not really. I spent 2000-2012 bemoaning any vegetarian girlfriend (there were a few, it's often tallied with my 'type'), including when with one for 3 years. I've always been around 'scenes' where it's pretty popular - the hardcore punk scene had a history of fucking fights between the straight edge elements between vegans and veggies (that was in the Washington and NY 'Crew' scenes, but nonetheless it's indicative of the culture everywhere).
I got into it when both conquering some food fears around vegetables whilst also becoming more and more aware of the issues around mass production and transportation of food, both in terms of animal cruelty and environmental issues.
What I don't 'get' is why people are so opposed to other people not eating meat or being conscious of their meat consumption. It's sodding bizarre.
You were scared of vegetables?
I just had a steak for dinner.
Bloody lovely, it was.
Probably just one of those picky eaters that doesn't (well, didn't) like vegetables. The sort who are indulged too much as children.
I fucking hate them above all other kind of food habits people have.
Rather I ate everything until I was around 5 and was in hospital with digestion issues. I turned phobic of most foodstuffs when I came out and pretty much lived on quorn and rice or potato and beans for nearly another 7 years. My mother tried everything to make me overcome the fears but I'd starve myself before eating the dreaded meat or veg. I slowly started overcoming a lot of them from 12 onwards, meat first then most green veg.
Onion is still an issue. As are raw tomatoes. But with the former I do use them as the basis for soups and curries, stews etc when blended and eat around with no issues, able to deal with them sometimes when their presence isn't too noticeable.
It's ridiculous of course, but it causes me real anguish. I've tried all sorts. Including eating whole onions when about 13/14 and again aged around 22/23.
The only way it gets worse is when people claim they're allergic and aren't rather than having the scrap of spine required to just say they don't like it.
My sister's brother-in-law once told her he's got a serious allergy to onions. She pointed out that he's eaten in her house many times and whenever he's had her lasagnes and curries, amongst others, he's eaten plenty of onion. Funnily enough it turns out he's just a liar.
It's so frustrating to see this happening, my pet hate is hearing someone saying things like Oh you won't like that.
I don't claim any allergy nor that it's anything other than ridiculous, but it's very much not by choice nor purely out of a dislike. Nor do I ever let anyone know outside of casual conversation. Where I can I avoid them and where I cannot I eat around or at worst grin and bear. It simply causes me a lot of discomfort. As I say, I use it blended voluntarily and dearly wish it didn't make me uncomfortable given how ubiquitous an ingredient it is.
Definitely a scenester.
Eating full onions.
I need to stop outing myself as a mental by opening up on here really.
Was it raw or did you cook it? Eating a full raw onion must be up there with paedophilia.
Tried both.
Raw and whole, and cooked and chopped and god knows how many times of just 'in stuff'. Never stops being unpleasant.
Yet, as I say, it's the base of my curries and soups (probably 2-4 meals a week) and I use onion powder in various other dishes.
Onion powder? The fuck is that?
Take three guesses.
I don't know but it probably smells like your cunt.
What a tremendously unexpected vulgar post.
I love it.
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