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The whole Football Manager thread (55 pages) is only on 35k. What's going on there?
Why do folk rarely just smash it down the middle?
Torres to finish it Chelsea v Barca style.
It's statistically the greatest chance you have of scoring as the keeper feels he needs to move but at the same time players feel like they need to put it to one side.Originally Posted by Waffdon
I don't think (m)any. He'll want to choose a fair few players to come in, I think. Laporte has been agreed already apparently. I don't expect he'll like Jesus Navas or Bony much; Toure out the door as soon as possible.
OMG @ Simeone.
That's GBH.
Send him down.
Simeone.
Not as comical obviously but Simeone and his shirt/belt is like Wenger and his coat.
What's the filthy poxrat done now?
Balls, all Spanish final then
LMAO.
Enjoy Pep the failure, Citeh.
'Pep' loves a semi final loss.
Bottled it again. Proper Spanish bin man.
The fourth official didn't let him make a sub so Simeone hit him.
edit: https://streamable.com/jv7f There's a gif for ya.
Three wasted years.
Pep's made Bayern better at beating weak teams and much worse at beating strong teams. The manner they went out in the last couple years has meant he hasn't done very well, IMO. No real shame in this year.
How he does at City may shape how people perceive his career more than anything.
PMSL.
The man might actually be part of Simeone's staff, in that case he might not get banned. If it's a UEFA official, there's no way he's on the sideline for the final.
Lolz if he gets banned from the final
Great from Atletico again. Godin is a titan.
Leicester City - Atletico Madrid final next year. Can both teams have 35% possession?
Less impossible than you winning the Premier League.
Luis Enrique has done more than anybody to shatter the genius myth by out-doing his Barcelona side with less qualifications than me. The problem is that whilst people should have just been happy to accept that he was a very good manager managing very, very good players, the short-termist, perspective-less idiots had to proclaim him the best manager ever, and convince themselves (so that they could be part of it) that he was re-inventing the wheel.
I'm not having your take on Leicester Lewis, but you've been bang on about Guardiola to date it seems.
City will be very interesting indeed.
I'd rather have Pellegrini.
I'm a twit
I had a discussion the other day with someone I know who claimed Guardiola still has to "prove himself" which I think is bollocks. Ok, Lucho also won one Champions League with Barca, but I think for Guardiola to repeat himself by winning two CL titles as well as winning several league titles against Mourinho shows that he is a top tier manager.
He went to Bayern with the aim of winning CL and failed there, there's no doubt about that. I don't really like his insistance on putting several players out of position, such as Alaba centre-back (he was awful against Juve) and playing these weird formations. I feel he was always best with a normal 433, both with Eto'o or Messi upfront.
Pep had one forward who could carry a team, Enrique has three. Enrique has also coached and made big decisions well.
Before Pep came along, nobody had put such an extreme emphasis on possession. 85% and the like over 90 minutes was unheard of. (There were more subtle parts to their game too of course.) Whether or not you think he fully deserves his trophies, he has been one of the greatest innovators in football.
"Hit" is a massive exaggeration, but I still hope they fry the cunt.
I'm reading it back now, and the fact that I was saying it a couple of months after their 2011 treble, when he was first pissing about with a 3-4-3 and somehow winning without defenders against all footballing logic... I'm like Christian Bale in The Big Short.
He was a centre back dying to be a midfielder at Bilbao. It's why he left.
'Pep' also had a peak of his powers Xavi and Iniesta in the middle.
Do you honestly think no manager had thought to keep the ball as much as possible before? His team were just better at it than anyone else, because they had the best player ever and two of the best passers ever to pop it around. There's no innovation in doing what everyone else is trying to do better than they can do it.
The backtracking.
I just googled innovators of high possession football and got that snipit from a 2012 grauniad shitpiece.In 1872, the 11 Queen's Park players who made up the Scotland national side looked at the England team they were about to face in the first international fixture and decided they had to try something out of the ordinary. England were over a stone a man heavier and given the head-down charging that characterised the early game, that was a significant advantage. What Scotland had to do, it was decided, was to keep the ball away from England, to deny them possession and thus control the game.
The personnel in Guardiola's Barcelona side were almost beyond reproach, and universal mook Frank Rijkaard was donning things with a (perhaps) lesser bunch a few years earlier.
If you want to have a 'philosophy' I don't know how compatible it is with modern day mega-clubs, where winning (and all the uncontrollable details that go into that) is paramount, and the arbiter of success.
It's not like he invented a diablo tictac.
Or Indoctrin's 4-4-2.
Have a night off from the vitriol.
Pep was a great innovator at Barca because no teams had ever thought to be so good at football before.
What now? I'm the only one doesn't think it was murder.
Queen's Park are a bit of a curiosity. They've resolved to always remain an amateur club and their motto is 'play for the sake of it', but they play in a fifty odd thousand seater stadium and play in the professional leagues.
I was even saying that 'The Little Genius' as a striker made them easier to beat when he was slamming in ten a week against Real Chorizo. I should be their manager.
Irrelevant when we're discussing the way they played.
He was the one to develop the methods to actually make that football possible, so he was the innovator.
Pass and move, it's the catalan groove.
Total football.
It was the 'I still hope they fry the cunt' part. Every post from you at the moment just seems to be dripping in negativity and hatred for something or someone.
Take no notice of him. It's better to ignore disgusting comments like that.
Has BT shown an English side in Europe on Showcase this season or am I getting a little bit mad?
Think they always go with the foreign sides
Fry in ban terms. Are you related to him or something? Should I like him? Should I like everyone?
Also, "dripping". Wind the melodrama back a little.
I just seem to remember that they promised at least one English side to be shown at least once per season including the finals.
Must be me though.
I dislike Simeone as much as the next sane person, but you have to admit a certain begrudging respect. Another European Cup final with Fernando fucking Torres in tow this time, missing penalties galore. Could be up for his second European Cup winners medal and all. Dear god.
Sorry who could dislike Simeone? He reminds me of the Ugly in Good, Bad, Ugly. He's South American level 1000.
Oh, Beckham/England? I like him even more.
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