Just wait for Woy to announce the squad to have all the optimism disappear.Originally Posted by SvN
Playing the Welsh on a Thursday at 2pm though should be fun.
Just wait for Woy to announce the squad to have all the optimism disappear.
Playing the Welsh on a Thursday at 2pm though should be fun.
Test.
Welbeck out is going to fuck us a lot harder than we think. Means Sterling or Walcott out on the wing
Townsend should be going ahead of the likes of Walcott and Sterling. He's been the best player on the pitch in almost every game since Newcastle became not shit. He's no world beater, but the other two have had awful seasons.
Although a fair point, we had an entire generation of losers already, can we keep Newcastle as far away from this lot as possible?
Then you remember we have Roy Hodgson in charge.
Where is this Woy bashing coming from? He's won literally every game at a canter and we're playing some of the most high tempo pressing football we've played in 2 decades.
You have to assume that it's his management that's responsible for the optimism in the first place.
It isn't though, well certainly not with me. It's the fact we have Kane and Vardy who are scoring freely and Spurs playing attractive football in 2nd place in the premier league with a lot of English players. They are the main reasons for optimism. It's rare that we have English players in such form before a tournament.
Vardy has played a friendly and a 70 minutes versus Lithuania... He won't even start. He's not even that useful in an England team that'll spend most of it's time with 11 men in front of them.
edit:
May as well pick my predicted team:
Hart
Rose (Should be Cresswell) - Cahill - Smalling - Clyne
Dier - Wilshere - Alli
Rooney - Kane - Sterling
We've had good English players loads of times though. The performances over the past year are the reason I'm optimistic, not because of the individuals.
We also qualified fairly comfortably in 2014 and look how that turned out.
I see Roy playing the same old team (or similar) and therefore I have no reason for optimism due to him. I think we have the players who are only likely to play small parts who would be more exciting and give us more of a chance.
I hope I'm proven wrong though!
And now the Golden Generation is dead and buried where it should be. Look at that team.
If we'd have got out of that group with a central midfield of a 5 years past it Gerrard and Jordan 'I'm shit but I run around a lot' Henderson, he should have been given freedom of the country.
I'm worried about that too. I'm half expecting him to ask Gerrard to make a return. But I hope he continues the good work he's done so far and play the exciting team we saw against Germany.
Who from that team was the Golden Generation apart from Gerrard!?
Edit - Just seen your edit!
That team was more than capable of getting out of the group stage. We all thought so at the time and only hindsight is making you think it would have been a miracle. The biggest issue with that team is him shoehorning Rooney in when better, more in form players were available which is VERY likely to happen this time. You've even stuck Rooney on the wing in your predicted team. He isn't a winger, inside forward, whatever you wanna call him.
Yes, me too. However, too many times I've been burnt by Roy even though he is such a likeable guy.
I just cant see past him starting
Wilshere (hardly played all season and hasn't consistently performed before)
Rooney (well, we all know this one)
Milner (I'm not completely adverse to him starting, but he needs the right players around him, Roy's first XI will probably not)
Sterling (Been out of form for over a year now)
Sterling, Rooney and Wilshere should be nowhere near the first team. Milner, like you, I could live with, depending on the rest of the team.
Wilshere probably shouldn't even be in the squad, but Roy seems to love him.
It sounds like your thoughts on the team are very similar to mine.
I really hope Roy goes with a vibrant, young, attacking team but I just don't think he will.
Prediction for Roy's selection:
Hart
Clyne, Cahill, Smalling, Rose
Milner, Wilshere
Alli
Rooney, Kane, Sterling
The midfield and attack is just shoehorned in to fit his favourites and those he 'trusts'.
MOTM in every England game he's played since Woy swapped to that system. Came on yesterday for 45 minutes. Won more tackles than everyone bar Aaron Ramsey and had a 100% pass accuracy.
I read this forum regularly and we are never ever going to come to an agreement on Jack Wilshere so I am completely out of this debate with you.
The adjusted database is like their graph.
I dont think england are stupid enough to play wingers at this point. All the wingers, have had terrible seasons plus they have vardy and kane in strong form. Its a 442 diamond with rooney in the AMC if anything.
Wilshere's only been back for 5 minutes and, like any player to whom the phrase 'prove his fitness' can be applied, should not be anywhere near the squad.
Also lol at not wanting Newcastle players, they could be champions next year mate.
It doesn't really matter what he did against Slovenia a year ago; it matters more that he won't do the same against Germany and Spain and that he's barely kicked a ball this season.
Hart; Clyne, Cahill, Smalling, Rose; Dier, Henderson, Alli, Rooney; Kane, Vardy. In a 4-4-2 diamond.
Why won't he, out of interest? Xavi is still banging on about him years later after he bossed Barcelona (a long time ago).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-football.html
Wales were supposed to announce their 28 man squad for the Euros today, but they've postponed it until later because Joe Ledley got injured on Saturday.
Bringing that match up again
You may as well call up Gerrard again based on the cup final performance against West Ham. Most of the time in between Wilshere has been average or injured. I'd rather bring Drinkwater.
Because Germany and Spain are better than Slovenia.
He'll be pressed more (than not at all, that is), and have to do more defending. If you're going to play him (I wouldn't), play him further up. Personally not convinced at all that he'll be able to play that role against good teams.
@Vim Are you taking totti?
Yeah this would be my team but I'd swap Henderson for Wilshire. Couldn't care if he isn't fully fit, the lad is quality when on the pitch.
Milner's been class recently and I really wasn't a fan earlier in the season. Just don't let him take corners.
A set piece taker is something we're missing actually.
Is there an England graph?
Kane, Vardy, Ali and Dier all need to play. Outside of that I'm not too arsed so long as Rooney isn't shoehorned in at centre half or something ridiculous.
Hart
Clyne Smalling Cahil Rose
Carrick
Henderson Ali
Rooney
Vardy KAne
Don't see many predicting we'll win the thing, you daft paddy. Just that we can play some decent stuff and do okay if the right side is picked and the important players stay fit. Hardly a sign of a bleed on the brain.
That would get absolutely raped. Magic would be watching the games on liveleak.
Carrick? The mans legs fell off the side of cliff this season.
Test.
We've just announced our squad:
Goalkeepers:
Hannes Þór Halldórsson (Bodö/Glimt)
Ingvar Jónsson (Sandefjord)
Ögmundur Kristinsson (Hammarby)
Defenders:
Birkir Már Sævarsson (Hammarby)
Ragnar Sigurðsson (Krasnodar)
Kári Árnason (Malmö)
Ari Freyr Skúlason (OB)
Haukur Heiðar Hauksson (AIK)
Hjörtur Hermannsson (Göteborg)
Hörður Björgvin Magnússon (Cesena)
Sverrir Ingi Ingason (Lokeren)
Midfielders:
Aron Einar Gunnarsson (Cardiff)
Gylfi Þór Sigurðsson (Swansea)
Emil Hallfreðsson (Udinese)
Birkir Bjarnason (Basel)
Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson (Charlton)
Theodór Elmar Bjarnason (AGF)
Arnór Ingvi Traustason (Norrköping)
Rúnar Már Sigurjónsson (Sundsvall)
Strikers:
Kolbeinn Sigþórsson (Nantes)
Alfreð Finnbogason (Augsburg)
Jón Daði Böðvarsson (Kaiserslautern)
Eiður Smári Guðjohnsen (Molde)
Wales' 'Pre-Euro Training Camp' squad, which is minus Bale (presuambly as he'll still be with Madrid):
Wayne Hennessey (Crystal Palace), Danny Ward (Liverpool), Owain Fon Williams (no idea)
Ashley Williams (Swansea City), Ben Davies (Tottenham), James Collins (West Ham), James Chester (WBA), Neil Taylor (Swansea City), Chris Gunter (Nottingham Forest), Ashley Richards (Swansea City), Paul Dummett (Newcastle), Adam Matthews (Sunderland), Adam Henley (Blackburn)
Aaron Ramsey (Arsenal), Joe Ledley (Crystal Palace), Joe Allen (Liverpool), Jonny Williams (Crystal Palace), Dave Edwards (Wolves), Andy King (Leicester City), David Vaughan (Nottingham Forest), Emyr Huws (no idea)
Hal Robson Kanu (Reading), Sam Vokes (Burnley), Simon Church (no idea), Dave Cotterill (Birmingham), G Williams (no idea), Bradshaw (no idea), Tom Lawrence (Blackburn), Burns (no idea)
I really hope not.
Hart
Clyne, Smalling, Cahill (sheeeesh), Rose
Milner, Drinkwater, Dier, Alli
Vardy, Kane
Just emulate Atletico's system, tbqh. 4-4-2 or just a diamond. They shan't bother with fast black men down the wings - enough pace through the middle. Team would do decent but the centre halves are tragic.
Wasnt sure if it was Guðjohnsen but in looks like it is. I remember watching a post game interview where he was crying on camera talking about its his last game for iceland after the didnt qualify for some cup. He changed his mind?
The coaches asked him to return for the qualifying which he did.
I dunno if he deserves to go (on current on form) but he's our best player of all time and takes a lot of media focus away from the team.
Wales must be fucking shit if they're still picking Aaron fucking Ramsey.
Lolled at the Wilshere talk. We're going for peak chav with him, Vardy and Alli, and we're going to fucking murder everyone.
Sportsbible and whoever are showing a 'leaked' squad which has Shaw in instead of Rose.
Platini's resigning.
He stood down this morning said SSN. Signed him back up again. Funny FIFA
I'd genuinely rather have Milner in the team than Rooney right now.
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Hart
Clyne - Smalling - Cahill - Rose
Alli - Dier - Wilshere
Milner - Kane - Vardy
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Or something. Dropping back into a narrow 4-4-2 when defending
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