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New season already?
Here's a poll.
I just see a repeat of last season if I'm honest. Man City edge it after we run them close, Tottenham don't really challenge but somehow make a meal of 3rd. Chelsea, Arsenal and United battling it out for fourth with Wolves closer than last year in terms of points. Leicester could go well. West Ham and the like going neither here nor there.
Strugglers for me look to me to be the three promoted teams, Brighton, Newcastle and Palace.
Not such a vast gap at the top and Spurs and Unite to be much more involved this year.
Liverpool will probably finish ten points behind City and ten points ahead of Spurs. I fancy Arsenal for fourth. I reckon Leicester and/or Wolves could above Chelsea.
Not sure about relegation. For once I don't really agree with the betting there. Probably because nobody has a clue. Villa, Norwich and Watford if I were to have a punt. Bournemouth if they get, like, two injuries to key players.
Can we have a proper prediction thread?
STFU yeah.
Straight forecast of City, Liverpool, Spurs available @ 8/1 :sherlock:
That's blinding value imo.
It’s our year boys. ;)
https://66.media.tumblr.com/615fb0d2...ciwxo3_500.gif
That might be the least necessary gif ever.
I think we'll be better than people think, probably 50/50 for the top four. Definitely above Manchester Utd.
Ya. Beginning of the season will be rough but you’ll be killing it once the 3-named lads in midfield returnQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Was Hazard not about 75% of everything good they did?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Yes, so we probably won't come third or win the UEFA Cup, but the fact that he isn't there means the ball will go to others instead. Pulisic won't be terrible either. My main worry is lack of goals in the team.
Spurs to implode.
For those who missed it last week, I had an idea to use the power of the hive mind to predict the final 2019/20 Premier League table.
There were teething problems at first as I used an inadequate system to record everyone’s responses and subsequently some data was lost. However, I was quick to action a fix and the new survey was up and running as soon as the problem was spotted. Some of you may have entered on the old system so please ensure you enter your submissions today to avoid missing out on being part of this experiment, if you haven’t done so already.
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In the first week, I received a whopping 543 responses and the predicted league is really starting to take shape. I am pleased to say there has only been a handful of “sabotage predictions,” so would like to say a big thank you to everyone who hasn’t tried to spoil this. That being said, it could only take a trickle of genuine votes to reshape the standings.
The deadline to submit your predictions is kick-off time for the first league game, which is 8PM on Friday 9th August when Norwich face Liverpool. After which I will share the results for everyone to see.
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Thanks again to everyone who takes part.
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Belfast was good. Going to Armenia is of the question though.
Fixed it, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Luton against Boro?
Strap yourselves in for a shitefest.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/foot...cid=spartanntp
All female officiating team apparently.
Five goals, two of them crackers, one a goalkeeping error and still time left for more as Luton look for an equaliser. Not bad...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleb
Boro miss a pen and Luton make it 3-3. Great game!
James Collins, still uncapped :uhoh:
He was in our under 21 squad when he pissed on someone at a horse race.
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Wigan's new mascot is adorable.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cp...0897_wigan.jpg
Pen must be thrilled to meet him.
Always reminds me of the Di Canio era at Swindon (Collins). Seem to recall him scoring four in game once (I checked, 5-0 home win against Pompey, NYD 2013). Always thought he was under-appreciated at Town so pleased to see him doing well.
Done :thbgrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
the british gas boiler as mascot was the best thing ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Should've given me a shout.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=960Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
I see Bury have had their second game of the season suspended - not looking good for them. Amazed they've let Bolton start the season with three senior outfield players.
That idiot Lisbon chairman who had his own players attacked has been charged with terrorism.
Joelinton's scored against Saint-Ettiene. He's going to have to carry us so hard this season, isn't he? FT: 2-1. Longstaff for us and Debuchy for them. :D
An unexpected win to start the season, away at Scunny. Nice.
I don't recognise half of this west Brom side, it's gonna be an interesting season one way or the other.
Chelsea's two longest serving players are Kenneth Omeruo, 7.5 years and 0 games and Lucas Piazon, 7.5 years and 1 game.
Sit tight, lads. Testimonials await.
Dortmund vs Munich in a hour lads
Football :D
I honestly think Sancho is as good as Mbappe
Sancho really plays like a beast. I wouldn't go that far with the Mbappe statement. Sancho does not contribute enough goals.
He doesn't score as much, but he makes up for it in assists. For a worse team in a far more competitive league. Just from watching the two he seems to have an equal impact to Mboops, if not bigger. My balls aren't big enough to take it that far though.
I was pretty pleased with the Albion's performance today. Bit shite at first like, but quite like the balance of Krovinovic, Sawyers and Livermore in midfield. Thank fuck it ain't Chrissy Brunt stinking up the joint anymore.
Even if we don't go up this season it's nice to see young players given a go, and Bilic seems to have a plan.
Went to Brentford vs Birmingham yesterday expecting it to be better then the L2/L1 football I normally get with MK but it was terrible. Birmingham might have been worse than any L2 side I’ve seen but Brentford didn’t trouble them in the second half. Daylight robbery of a result though.
Good to see Gomez back in at CB. Hopefully he can carry on from his previous stint there.
Do City not have a shirt sponsor this year?
I was hoping for a few youth players on the bench for us, give them a ‘big game’ while not having to worry about it.
This is a retro shirt to remind all of their fans that this club did exist in some way before 2008.
Most of the modern strips are awful. Wolves, in particular, are shocking. No shirt sponsors are great though. Hopefully, they catch on.
Certainly looks like City are a week or two ahead of us here.
I lolled at them seething about an off-hand comment about their spending to build the non-existent rivalry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Did I just see Guardiola booked?
That new rule is quality. If someone shouts something at the referee or fourth official but they can't determine who it was, the booking defaults to the most senior member of the team present. Should provide solid entertainment through the season, seeing teams trying to 'I am Spartacus' their way out of it and managers flinging subs under the bus to avoid getting a second yellow themselves.
That's a goal and assist combo I didn't think I'd see.
What's happened to Kyle Walker's head?
He's gone full Guardiola with it
Good warm up that.
Defence needed that 1st half kick up the ass. 2nd half was the play we had last season. Salah with a few games under the belt could have finished with 4 or 5.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
It will make a David Silva type return.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
If Wolves get through against the Armenian's. They will face Torino or Shakhtyor Soligorsk from Belarus in the final round.
I see Dundalk or someone got drawn against Ajax or someone. How are Ajax in the Europa?
They aren't yet, but if they lose their CL tie to PAOK then they will be.
Ah right. I'd presumed winner of tie, not loser.
Would VAR have ruled out that goal where Walker fouled Origi in the build-up and then City broke away or is that looking back too far? lol at them doing that after the seething when the opposite happened in the first half as well.
Not sure I can be bothered with City at all this year if Guardiola is going to be in full-on chimpout mode all the time. Unless the wheels come off I suppose and then it might be quite funny. They can get fucked with this 'rivalry' thing as well. It's more of a media construct, but it's not happening.
Guardiola is mostly in chimp out more I'd he not? Leagues are nice and all but they're not how he validated his ability.
Pep. Mate.
*'Pep'
I thought Pep was short for Pepe or Pedro. His birth name is actually Josep :cab:
Do you not remember him as Josep Guardiola? He was that for a lot of his playing career before the Pep bullshit kicked in.
I don't really remember his playing career at all. I remember Luis Enrique and Figo
THE MIGHTY BLADES are going to run riot this season :cool:
https://talksport.com/wp-content/upl....png?strip=all
Robinson, Egan, Stevens, and McGoldrick :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavel
Egan even wrote us a song :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Dunno how to embed it...
https://youtu.be/WbMcR3CP4eQ
I see Tottenham are playing Villa again.
Why's Hammer/Gavel been banned? :nono:
Because he's hypernonce.
Because he asked to and then proceeded to spam the forum until he was banned. I’ll ban him again when I get back home.
...18 months ago.
Let him back.
Nope.
Just goes to show when you want to have a total meltdown never ask for yourself to be banned :drool:
Has Phil McNulty decided to finally get off the fence?
Tough words.Quote:
For all the cheerleading and predictable talk about a "feelgood factor", I have serious doubts that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is the man to turn around this big beast of the Premier League - doubts voiced before the initial bounce was deflated into those embarrassing performances at the end of last season.
Solskjaer, rather like Lampard, is totally unproven but was the safe choice for United's hierarchy.
Harry Maguire, at an exorbitant £80m for a central defender who is serviceable without being anywhere near the Van Dijk class
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49236095
I really don't see the point in debating the fee itself. More of an issue is that we've spent the summer seemingly trying to fuck about only to spend about what Leicester wanted back at the start of the window. And of course that we don't appear to do any actual scouting worth a shit.
What are the chances of Sanchez, Pogba and Lukaku all staying?
The Lukaku thing seems to have enough traction that I reckon that'll probably happen. Sanchez there's no chance we'll get rid of him and I'd like to think we wouldn't sell Pogba at this stage unless we were able to line up a replacement sharpish, which Woodward does not have form for.
Also Dario Gradi is now potentially involved in a second paedophilia scandal.
I missed this when the Barry Bennell stuff was in the news last year:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43211929
It's hit Catholic Priest territory now.
Some people are really sick.
My dad had Gradi as a PE teacher at school (my dad is 64) and he said Gradi was a notorious nonce even then.
Aren't all PE teachers nonces or at least suspected of being so by students?
More so the former.
Chelsea U23s tonight in the Football League Trophy (apparently sponsored by 'Leasing.com' now - the addition of Prem U23 teams bringing big sponsorship I see). Bit of a mixture this one as it's a joke fixture but still one I'd like a decent result in. I'll settle for no injuries to any first team players though.
I vaguely remember Dan Crowley as being a bit of a prospect at Arsenal, but he has fully embraced the Dutch way of life while he was there. He's full of pretty turns and runs well with the ball without doing anything at all of substance. I've influenced the game precisely as much as he has.
Your work with Beograd outweighs his pretty turns. Give yourself some credit.[/itsrealtome]
Lol have that, loser. GET IN.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Comments from people who watched said the quality of Chelsea's attack was just unreal - the movement in particular. Some secret hopes of getting one of them on loan but based on what I've heard they need to be playing further up the leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
No injuries :-)
Diego Forlan has retired and just like Evra I had no idea he hadn't already.
Djemba-Djemba and Roy Carrol are still active though
I thought you were joking holy shit.
LMFAO you dick it's literally the trivia question at the moment lololol i'm actually cackling at my desk
United beat Rotherham as well 😎Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49265227
Rooney will wear 32 at Derby after 32Red made the club (and Rooney ofc) a huge sponsorship deal.
The moral issue angle is hilarious.
Either you allow gambling sponsorship or you don't, this doesn't add anything to the argument either way.
Wolves are in Armenia for a 5pm kick off in the first leg. What a time to be alive.
vs Armenia. Kick-off is at 5pm in the first leg.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBdGTF5WkAAGAqp.jpg:large
4-0 easy work
Good on you guys for pummeling a nation that was genocided, I guess
and
Who’s likely to get more time, Batshuayi or Abraham?
Adama Traore wasn’t playing because he didn’t know he needed a passport to go to Armenia :cab:
Abraham I reckon, at least until he goes 0 in the first 13.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
https://www.theguardian.com/football...nson-criticism
"‘Trying to destroy careers’: Ravel Morrison defends Berahino from Johnson criticism"
That's quite a collection of names for the one headline.
2 weeks for Bury to save themselves. Genuinely think they could fold, and may well be the first of more to come and the financial disparity in football grows.
I know they are more United side of the city, but if I was Sheikh Makhtoum I would give them 10 million or whatever they need to bail out. Best PR ever.
Will the league just carry on with 23 teams, or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Assume so as the season has started. Not sure how Bury’s fixtures will be accounted for (cancelled out/default 3pts for other side?) or what will happen to relegation/promotion, although I assume just 3 will be relegated from League 1 and the normal 4 will be promoted. Perhaps an extra promotion slot for a Conference side or one less team relegated from League 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
Everyone will more than likely get three points as an insurance policy.
A few teams have dissolved in the greek league over the past few years and all their fixtures get a loss with 3-0.
Pretty good idea, presumably by some committed Arsenal fans, to harass Ozil and Kolasinac so they don't play.
What’s Kolasinac done?
Starting XI
Liverpool Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Robertson, Gomez, Van Dijk, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Fabinho, Salah, Origi, Firmino
Norwich Krul, Aarons, Hanley, Godfrey, Lewis, Trybull, McLean, Buendia, Stiepermann, Cantwell, Pukki.
That could be a good thing. Ozil shows bo fight on or off the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Oh my god it's windy!
:uhoh:
After they merked off that gang last week or so it appears the gang have not taken kindly to it and have targeted them a couple more times. Presume that Arsenal are having trouble getting armed security for family members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
You'd think being mates with Erdogan would've helped him out in that situation.
Cracking finish by Hanley.
Salah is such a ball greedy twat.
Get fucked Delia.
Liverpool won't keep many clean sheets playing like this in defence.
Both teams playing with just 2 at the back. Liverpool should get twelve if they're arsed, and Norwich should get three.
They can afford to do what they like against Norwich City though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trancemeister
VAR not checking for keepers coming off their lines for pens is strange. You know as soon as a keeper saves one and the replay shows the keeper off his line, the manager and pundits will go absolutely mental. Can't wait.
Aarons is absolute shit.
Tell me Allison's leg is in half.
Last 4 times Liverpool have scored 4 in the first half? Norwich, Arsenal, Arsenal, Norwich.
Aarons seems fine to me, he shouldn’t have to be defending against 6’2 players. It’s a systematic failure.
Mignolet sits patiently behind Alisson all year and doesn't get a sniff. Adrian comes in and get on in his first day on the job.
Hopefully just a twisted knee or muscle pulled.
This is a varce.
Bit harsh, he's playing his first game in the Premiership against the reigning Champions League winners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
This is suicidal from Norwich.
Shelbourne being Shelbourne :face:
https://i.imgur.com/9ddk1vN.jpg
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I'd missed Drmic signing for Norwich. He looked like being brilliant for a while.
I wonder what marketing nonsense resulted in Sky adding little flags beside the player names on their chyrons.
Not bad. 4-1 win whilst not really playing well can't be sniffed at.
Hopefully Alisson is only a few weeks away.
More concerning is how bad Alexander-Arnold looked tonight. Perhaps a lack of competition is a bad thing for him.
I thought your defence in general looked shite, just as it did against City last week.
I can't remember if he's normally really good or really bad at crossing (it's definitely one of those), but he was the latter in that game. And crossing is basically his only job vs bottom half sides (aside from running fast) so it's kind of important.
He is a crap defender who would be FOUND OUT in pretty much any other team (or alongside any other centre-back); but his attacking is really good for Liverpool so whatever.
Norwich are going down hard if their takeaway from that game is that they showed character to not get done 8-0. The better sides will just lol their way past them, and the more limited teams will take the chances they're afforded without offering up the same in return. Maybe that would happen regardless, considering their limited resources, but having Martin Tyler wetting his pants that it could be 4-4 because you've had a couple of quarter chances isn't going to help.
Encouraging signs of a return to madness ball, fuck defensive solidity. Get Mané and a few more attacking midfielders in there.
Norwich was down as soon as they were confirmed with promtoion.
My outlandish prediction in that thread really should have been we will see a double figure score in the PL. Defensive solidity as a strategy is so out of vogue, fans just hate it and will not allow it.
I think Norwich will be fine. They'll probably beat Steve Bruce's Newcastle next week. Bournemouth have never bothered with defending and they've been around ages now.
We bothered with it last season. :(
I think Norwich didn't look too bad, actually. I think they've got a decent chance of staying up.
If they stay up they'll have done well. They got a bit fortunate last season I think, but they are intense as hell and their left back looks good.
I think you can say the same for most teams that get promoted. The first season is always a tough one, although you go occasionally get sides that get a weird first season bounce that puts them in a false position for a while that keeps them safe (Blackpool, Huddersfield, Ipswich in 2001).
There are 5 or 6 teams that could feasibly go down this season, including the 3 new teams.
Which year was it Hull were threatening the top four under Phil Brown? Madness.
(you're getting mauled by the tigers)
Didn't they lose pretty much every game after November and stay up anyway? Heroic.
I was just looking at their Wiki page for that season. They beat Boro on 6th December then won 1 more game until the end of the season, which was in March against Fulham.
Just checked, they were 6th at Christmas and then won once after that - an injury time Manucho winner at Fulham - but still stayed up by a point (this was the year when Alan Shearer's Newcastle lost x games in a row at the end, just pipping them to relegation).
In fact, they won twice after 25 October.
Blackpool did the same thing but I think managed to go down.
Joint first after 9 games.
Knocking about in the Spanish third division now at '36' years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Edit: Wiki is wrong, he left them last month and has yet to find a new club.
Bolton were top after seven games in 2001/02 and then fell to bits, but at least they managed forty points.
The problem for Norwich is they had everyone watching so it’s going to be impossible to rewrite the narrative as they won’t have anyone watching when they do. It’s like Fat Sam having a rep for doing Arsenal despite having a 4-26 record. It’s about winning the ones when the press have nothing better to do.
Must have been the same year he went on bridges talking people out of jumping. What a hero he was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Top of the league boys! #OurYear ;)
I remember when LuaLua fired us to the top on day one.
Saw Norwich in their last friendly last week and Jamal Lewis looked quality. Thought he looked alright last night too, although why he was told to mark Van Dijk at set pieces was a mystery.
Reckon he'll be Norwich's breakout player this year.
Starting XI's
Watford : Foster, Femenia, Dawson, Cathcart, Holebas, Hughes, Doucoure, Capoue, Deulofeu, Gray, Deeney.
Brighton: Ryan, Duffy, Dunk, Burn, Montoya, Propper Stephens, March, Gross, Murray, Locadia.
Bournemouth : Ramsdale, Mepham, Cook, Ake, Smith, Lerma, Billing, Rico, King, Wilson, Fraser.
Sheffield United : Henderson, Baldock, Basham, Egan, O’Connell, Stevens, Lundstram, Norwood, Fleck, McGoldrick, Robinson.
Burnley : Pope, Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Pieters, Gudmundsson, Cork, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Barnes.
Southampton : Gunn, Valery, Stephens, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Bertrand, Romeu, Ward-Prowse, Ings, Adams, Redmond.
Crystal Palace : Guaita, Ward, Kelly, Dann, Van Aanholt, Milivojevic, McArthur, Townsend, Meyer, Benteke, Ayew.
Everton : Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Keane, Digne, Gomes, Schneiderlin, Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin.
What a bastard Aguero is.
Justified in missing it.
Fuck VAR.
The miss should have stood for taking away the chance for a hattrick.
I already hate VAR. It's been a total shitshow this game.
Lasted a whileQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
What the Dickens was Fabianski up to for that last goal? Sterling seems to have some Paul McKenna shit in his locker for those situations.
Was going to stick one of the games on but jesus, slim pickings.
Got west brom on the radio like it's 2006 all over again, and I'm quite enjoying it. Streams have spoiled us.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Just get there gaa on sky arena and forget the soccer for today. It's going to be war.
1-0 up and Potter makes a double change, brings on two strikers.
Andone scores with his first touch for 2-0.
:swing:
Looking forward to some feel-good-factor at The Amex next week.
Spurs' warm up gear looks like some Le Coq Sportif nonsense from the nineties.
Tottenham : Lloris, Walker-Peters, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Rose, Winks, Sissoko, Ndombele, Lamela, Lucas, Kane.
Aston Villa : Heaton, Elmohamady, Engels, Mings, Taylor, Hourihane, McGinn, Grealish, Trezeguet, El Ghazi, Wesley.
Eriksen on the bench :sherlock: a transfer perhaps
Milwall are awful. Sorry igor. Ya boys fucked it.
It’s mental Scotland are shite when they have the two best left backs in the world as well as the best box to box midfielder. Ryan Fraser can’t be far off top ten in the world either.
Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
And me for £180. Seeek
Solid if unspectacular 2-0 win over Blackburn. Much more like it, still things to work on but nice to kick off the home games with a win.
Good to see both Cairney and Mitrovic get goals too. I’m also pleasantly surprised at how well Arter fit in after only joining in the week.
There is a guy on the spurs bench called Oliver Skipp. Why is that funny? :D
Harry Kane persisting in being horrible at finishing
It’s August, he’s always a mong when the sun is out.
Fuck off Kane :moop:
Must be rainingQuote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
:D
Lol
Lol at Lineker calling them Sheffield Wednesday.
My prediction is Martial will have a scorching season
Leicester: Schmeichel, Ricardo Pereira, Evans, Soyuncu, Chilwell, Ndidi, Perez, Tielemans, Choudhury, Maddison, Vardy.
Substitutes: Justin, Morgan, Albrighton, Ward, Iheanacho, Barnes, Praet.
Wolves: Rui Patricio, Coady, Bennett, Boly, Doherty, Dendoncker, Joao Moutinho, Neves, Jonny, Jota, Jimenez.
Substitutes: Pedro Neto, Cutrone, Gibbs-White, Ruddy, Saiss, Ruben Vinagre, Traore.
The battle for 3rd begins.
Bringing in Alexis and sacrificing Martial for him has to be one of the most disastrous footballing decisions in recent memory.
Newcastle: Dubravka, Manquillo, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett, Ritchie, Hayden, Longstaff, Shelley, Almiron, Joelinton
Arsenal: Leno, Maitland-Niles, Chambers, Sokratis, Monreal, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Willock, Mkhitaryan, Nelson, Aubameyang
Probably the strongest side we could field.
Have Arsenal had a plane crash or is that really the best they can come up with?
They've got Pepe to come in at least.
If it's Mata or Young on the right today I'm writing the entire club calendar off.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Rashford up top with Greenwood just behind with James and Martial on the wings.
de Gea
Shaw
Jones
Smalling
Young
Gibson
Anderson
Fellaini
Rashford
Lukaku
Mata
We'd piss the league.
Mkhitaryan is having a terrible start. Has given the ball away to an opposition player three times already.
Cracking attempt there too.
Ferguson would get third, and then challenge by replacing Mata with Welbeck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Bellerin, Tierney and Holding all still in recovery. Ceballos and Lacazette on the bench after small knocks, and Pepe and Luiz needing match fitness, neither having played a pre-season game. Ozil involved in another security incident at his place on Thursday - he and Kolasinac excused (not a bad thing)Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
Nelson and Willock will both get a lot of time this year providing they don’t turn shite. The former takes Iwobi’s place and the latter is seen as similar to Ramsey.
Quite exciting having 3 academy kids lads on the field.
Shame they’re all fucking shite
If they were any good you would know them by their first names.
Wolves had a goal disallowed because of a ball-to-hand situation in the build up.
Apparently now all goals that involve any kind of handball in the build up will be disallowed. Whether accidental or not.
Saint-Maximim :cool:
Just look at that hair.
Probably my favourite new rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
De Gea; Wan Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw; McTominay, Pogba, 'Andreas'; Lingard, Rashford, Martial.
Would have liked Greenwood and James in there but at least Sanchez, Mata and Matic aren't in the 11.
Man Utd: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Lindelof, Shaw, Pogba, Pereira, McTominay, Martial, Rashford, Lingard
Chelsea Arrizabalaga, Azpilicueta, Christensen, Zouma, Emerson, Kovacic, Jorginho, Mount, Barkley, Pedro, Abraham.
Who's Mount?
Home grown player that's been on loan for years. Been at Derby & Vitesse from what I can remember.
Mason Mount, been at Chelsea for a while and loaned out a lot including to Lampard's Derby last season.
What the fuck is this shit?
:D
Has he got Kantes place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trancemeister
Kante is injured right now I believe.
He's on the bench on the sheet I seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Not fit enough to start though.
Aubameyang, my word. We barely created a thing today and the one chance he gets he knocks it in like it’s second nature.
How the mighty have fallen :drool:
Sooner the better it's back to normal and they're top again.
Already this is a gongshow.
We're still shit. Not sure why I'm surprised.
Big Fat Luke Shaw looks unfit, and Andreas Pereira is a nothing midfielder.
Chelsea will be comedy with their defence this year. Rudiger will have to put a shift in this season
What a challenge. :D
You were saying?
This will be 3/4 for Man Utd just on the break alone.
Rashford is incredible at penalties.
Both sides need an extra training session for finishing at this rate.
Wan-Bissaka is one of them cheat players like Kante.
If we can see out 3 points I'll be very thankful we got Chelsea now where they look utterly disorganized and confused.
Chelsea look good beyond the defending. United look like that 2011 season start where Anderson and Tom Cleverley were allowing twenty shots a game but the defence covered it up.
Is it me or does Barkley look like an arrogant cunt.
His slide tackling is actually unbelievable. Even when he goes in from behind (oi oi) he always gets the ball and never gives a foul away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Typical Scouse chav.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trancemeister
It is ridiculous. Ive counted at least 3 alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Martial is keeping 'Alexis' relevant with this shitter.
I'm giving Lewis the assist there.
Abraham and Giroud as your first choice strikers won’t be much fun.
That's probably the best cross Old Trafford has seen from a home player in about 3 years.
Does Beckham count when they played the 99 reunion? :rosebud:
Chelolsea
Should have put money on the handicaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Stay 3-0 and I win 145 from a fiver.
Can we add 'Frank Lampard's Chelsea' to the TTH Style Guide? I haven't heard anything like it since 'Harry Redknapp's Tottenham', which can't be a coincidence.
Harsh. Why would he back Chelsea though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Defoe got a hat trick today from a combined distance of about three quarters of an inch. He looked seriously sharp, although if his finishing from ten to eighteen yards had been better he could have had nine.
For his own sake Joe Aribo needs to spend a maximum of two years up here then go to the Premier League. He mugs people off far too casually, and there are far too many little shithouse players who make more money off their second job as a brickie's mate who'll get sick of it and put him up in the air. Unless he's made of granite he'll spend at least a month of this season injured.
Chelsea look a right laugh.
Oh well, lol at Lampard.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
That pass from Pedro should be considered gross misconduct.
Scoring 4 and fucking Mahow at the same time :drool:
Mason Mount's nose is bigger than the rest of his head.
Greenwood :cool:
Let's say that VAR was checking that incident on Zouma (it wasn't a pen, but let's say it was) - after Man Utd score and the ref is told that it should have been a pen, would he have to just chalk of the Man Utd goal and give a pen to Chelsea?
I think so yes.
GoodQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Emerson's had more shots than anyone else on their entire team.
I reckon I'll still write the club calendar off because this will be its peak.
Ole's at the wheel.
Chelsea have some technically brilliant players, but no defenders that can defend and nobody that can score goals. It's early days but Lampard is probably just horrifically out of his depth.
United are shit as well, their season has probably peaked here.
That video would have been improved by a factor of a thousand if the referee had turned his thumb like Joaquin Phoenix in Gladiator.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
idk if anyone else watching but this Koln-Wiesbaden German Cup match has been very entertaining
3-3 about to head to pens now tho
When I saw the starting XI I was braced for 3-0, good to know the instinct is still strong.
At least you've got an easy game up next.
Nice to see Lampard realising how dreadful Azpilicueta has become with his comments about Reece James. Not that it should matter with the latter being England’s first choice right back within two years.
6 tackles and 3 interceptions for Wan-Bissaka
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/49316537
OK, who the hell signs a NINE YEAR contract? What the fuck.
I thought they'd changed the rules about 15 years ago regarding max contract lengths? Or was that just in England?
Denilson’s ten year deal 😅
Makes sense as they can only have players from the Basque region. If you get a good one, lock him down for as long as you can.
It makes sense for the team maybe, but not really for the player...
Presumably he's taking the absolute piss with his wage and other terms. No other way anyone signs a deal that long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
That man had me practicing 20 step-overs in a row back in 98.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen
Why the hell not? It has a release clause if he wants to leave, and this way he's guaranteed (presumably good) wages until he's in his mid-30s.
Probably has one of those yearly wage escalation clauses I recall FM used to have (probably still does) that saw Alessio Cerci end up on 'Alexis' money back in the day (although in his case it was fully justified).
The 90s were such a weird time for football. Imagine the likes of Real Betis breaking the transfer record now.
Most clubs seem to be breaking their own with regularity at the moment so give it time.
Racism. Im dying :D
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...upporters.html
Lukaku's best period (his first couple of months) coincided with United fans serenading his cock, so they should be careful about shutting it down.
Is it bigger than a bread bin?
Yanga Mbiwa also got songs regarding his length.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/n2dV_do7tDE/maxresdefault.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
lol at Celtic.
Linfield though. Everything's coming up Brexit.
lol at Porto.
Hang on, who are we going to draw in the quarter finals now?
Dortmund, and everyone involved dies of mawk.
Madrid?
why is Scottish football is a joke? Who said the likes of Celtic and Rangers would finish in the top 10 in the premier league. That statement is void if you keep losing qualifying rounds to teams from Uganda. Fucking hell. I should've known. Shame on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Chelsea being in the super cup completely took me by surprise. Have no recollection of them winning the Europa League.
There was a clown on Football365 a few months ago essentially suggesting that if you didn't like Scottish football, or if you thought it was rubbish, you were a bigot. Wonder how he feels today.
Sounds like a Scottish Giggles
I bet he wears a Germany shirt when England play them.
Edit: this geezer, not Giggles.
:uhoh:
Rangers and Celtic would be solid Premier League clubs if they were given three years (or whatever) to establish themselves. If you just chucked them in the league now then yeah they would probably both get relegated. We really should have a United Kingdom league structure. You could still keep it local at the chump levels, but the full-time professional tiers should cover all countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
You can't even manage to have a United Kingdom political structure, so.
The two sides of Belfast coming together to fight some English hooligans when Belfast United play Chelsea. It'd be beautiful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Ha
It should be a Brexit Britain 'Our Precious Union' project. Rangers and Celtic into the Premiership with three years relegation immunity; Linfield and the four next best prepared Scotch teams up into the Championship; and so on and so on until all them tin-rattling breadline clubs around the bottom of League Two are dead.
Imagine finishing 16th and getting relegated.
Celtic and Rangers would be top six clubs after a year or two with ease
Do 'Old Firm' fans want to do that, or stay in their current tinpot setup?
Top 6 of the Champ?
They’d get relegated immediately but would probably be lucrative investments for some Kuwaitis or Omanis and would end up doing well after 5 years
Well, not lucrative. The Arabs would love the Old Firm though
Saudi buys one and Iran the other?
They'd be top 10 at best long term (save for a City style takeover). I don't see what they have that Newcastle don't in terms of following etc, for all the good that has done them.
Celtic could be bought out by some pretend Irish Americans, and the Crown could support Rangers by periodically forcing Catholic churches to sell any lead that they might possess.
Leave both where they are and let them die.
Liverpool 1.71 tonight, considering dropping my balls on it. We're not ready to compete with these sorts of teams.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...de-of-the-boot
Loving basically every video in this.
Liverpool: Adrian, Gomez, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Milner, Henderson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Mane, Salah.
Subs: Lonergan, Kelleher, Wijnaldum, Firmino, Lallana, Shaqiri, Brewster, Origi, Hoever, Alexander-Arnold, Elliott.
I reckon Chelsea will be more suited to this type of game. Oh, I see all of the kids have gone in the bin.
Kante is good at the football.
If PSG had spent the £200m on him they'd probably have won a Champions League by now.
Liverpool are always so crap in these half-intensity games.
Azpilicueta to become the new Ivanovic.
Reckon he's worth about ten league places to us now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
Relegation without himQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Zouma isnt first choice CB is he? Im struggling to think who is missing from this Chelsea back four.
Edit: Rudiger. OK.
Cracking finish.
Am I going to have to watch Jorginho taking these shite penalties all season? God.
You could tell that Abraham wasn't going to score.
He couldn't even look at the goal.
Adrian's definitely off his line for that last one.
How that list doesnt include Quaresma I will never know. This came to mind and google threw up this,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Tammy is going to get 0 in 93 or some other Chris Sutton-redeeming run. Poor guy.
General quality of pens has been very good between this and the dinner plate.
Abraham is a bit unlucky but then it's probably about fair given I don't think it was a pen.
It's nice seeing us lift trophies again. Here's hoping the one in December follows.
He does get a mention, to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
I also remember Teddy Sheringham outside-of-the-boot-ing one onto the bar at the 2002 World Cup against somebody (Argentina?), Ian Wright saying people at home would be "creaming" themselves and Crisps going, "Ian, please, people at home will be having their breakfast."
Was Pulisic any good or should I be looking to bin him out my fantasy team?
I think he looks decent, but probably a risk.
'Clear and obvious error' is going to become the new daylight or whatever that offside interpretation was.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49335941
This might be the worst "news" story ever.
Jesus wept.
He has been managing Arsenal for the past five versions of FM. It's about time he changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
He clearly likes a challenge.
About 80% of what appears on the BBC website these days seems to be 23 year olds finding a tweet and writing several dreadful paragraphs around it.
The other 20% is people complaining about racism/sexism in their field.
I'm sure Andy Lonergan will be a perennial quiz answer in years to come.
I once saw Andy Lonergan score a goal. He launched a kick out of his hands and it bounced over an obese Kevin Pressman’s and into the net. Glory days.
People are going mad about this on the FantasyPL subreddit :D So many players have brought him in for this game, it would be hilarious if he's unfit.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Only need a few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Liverpool now have no less than 5 goalkeeping options listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
Quick Giggles, get 'qweeveen' in there before he disappears again.
4.5 million, almost tempted to swap im in for Matt Ryan but that's a fools errand.
Is there actually much difference between goalkeepers, say, 11-1000 in the country? Obviously the top guys are top, but all other pro keepers seem to be varying degrees of solid.
They're all usually pretty solid until they make their debut for Liverpool at which point they inexplicably chuck one into their own goal. Adrian might be the first to have avoided this, can definitely recall Brad Jones and Adam Bogdan bowling in with a couple of crackers after Ming had made enough errors to let them have a go.
If Lonergan plays I want him to have 'Andy' on the back of his shirt.
Fabianski went from being considered a joke at Arsenal to being described as one of the best keepers in the league without playing any differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Adam Bogdan nailed it at Liverpool. He must have been furious when they loaned him out.
All he had to do was not spack the first shot he faced into his own goal.
Oh sorry, it wasn't even a shot.
VAR rules it out for handball.
:drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
It's quite funny seeing Barclona turf out Coutinho whilst they're still persisting with the likes of Rafinha and Sergi Roberto. Hope 9 Year Williams roasts them in the second half.
Got to be a massive chance for 'Atleti' this year.
:drool:
Bavaria Munchen drew at home as well. Cut to The Scorpions.
Aritz Aduriz must be about 54 by now. Legend.
Jaysus.
Barcs look lost. Messi didn't play, Suarez picked an injury in the first half and Coutinho was cheering them on from the stands.
Theres a huge difference. Weve had a huge contrast at Southampton from people like Niemi who would win us 10 points a season to the likes of Forster, Forecast and Gazzaniga who if they played a whole season would result in relegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Yep, exactly where my mind went too
Arsenal Leno, Maitland-Niles, Luiz, Sokratis, Monreal, Ceballos, Guendouzi, Willock, Aubameyang, Nelson, Lacazette
Burnley Pope, Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Pieters, Gudmundsson, Cork, Westwood, McNeil, Wood, Barnes.
I thought arsenal would have waited to concede a goal before dropping Chambers. Looks like being good in training and a clean sheet is only worth one game.
Good to see the english lads in midfield though.
Tbf Burnley play every game as if they’re already a goal upQuote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Arsenal cant win aerial balls first, can they?
What a shit celebration that is from Barnes.
Peach that.
:moop:
Who is this arsenal no 8? He seems alright.
Who's R.Nelson and J.Willock? Signings or youths?
Ceballos, he's on loan from Real Madrid. From what I've read he's pretty highly rated and the Madrid lot weren't very happy at the idea Zidane seems willing to let him go.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Looks a lot better than Denis Suarez.
Aston Villa Heaton, Taylor, Mings, Engels, El Mohamady, Grealish, D Luiz, McGinn, El Ghazi, Wesley, Trezeguet.
Bournemouth Ramsdale, Daniels, Aké, S Cook, A Smith, Fraser, Lerma, Billing, H Wilson, King, C Wilson
Brighton Ryan, Burn, Dunk, Montoya, Duffy, Stephens, Pröpper, Groß, March, Murray, Trossard.
West Ham Fabianski, Fredericks, Fornals, Diop, Masuaku, Rice, Ogbonna, Lanzini, Snodgrass, Wilshere, Hernandez.
Everton Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Mina, Digne, Gbamin, Andre Gomes, Bernard, Sigurdsson, Richarlison, Calvert-Lewin.
Watford Foster, Femina, Dawson, Cathcart, Holebas, Hughes, Doucoure, Capoue, Pereyra, Deeney, Deulofeu.
Norwich Krul, Aarons, Hanley, Godfrey, Lewis, Leitner, Trybull, Buendia, Stiepermann, Cantwell, Pukki.
Newcastle Dubravka, Krafth, Schar, Lascelles, Dummett, Ritchie, Ki, Hayden, Shelvey, Almiron, Joelinton.
Southampton Gunn, Bednarek, Yoshida, Vestergaard, Valery, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Bertrand, Adams, Redmond
Liverpool Adrian, Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Matip, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Salah, Firmino, Mane.
I seem to remember last season Southampton were all over us until about the 60th minute, when they tired and we were able to take control. Redmond was a handful too.
Hopefully it's easier this time, but after extra-time in Turkey on Wednesday I'm expecting a tough game. Quite the attacking lineup that too.
Yeah, this season has relegation written all over it. Bruce cannot organise a defence the way Rafa managed. It's like watching us under McClaren again.
Absolutely hopeless all first half, should probably be 2-0 down and then Mané smashes one into the corner on half time.
Sign of cha...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Vestergaard really is fucking rubbish. Slow, lumbering, can't read the game... should be in League 1.
Newcastle would have been better off spaffing £40m on Pukki than that Joe Linton gimp.
Manchester City - Ederson, Walker, Otamendi, Laporte, Zinchenko, Rodri, İlkay, De Bruyne, Sterling, B. Silva, Aguero.
Tottenham Lloris, Walker-Peters, Alderweireld, Sanchez, Rose, Winks, Sissoko, Ndombele, Eriksen, Lamela, Kane
Cutting Vertonghen out again, I don’t get it. Aurier should be in too at this point
Who does Adrien think he is... Loris Karius?
https://gyazo.com/44ed5422895a837f55083357aac45da2.gif
Yeah, I'm sure Bruce knows how to get the best out of him ...Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
He even had the warning in the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Southampton very unlucky. The referee was an absolute shambles.
Unlucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
City players have broken out the t-shirts for Sané.
Has Phil Foden ever started a league game for Man City?
Ederson standing near the penalty spot there for some reason
That's atrocious from Ederson.
Nice to see Oliver booking City for their ridiculous tactical fouling.
Brighton were good today, should have won it really. Need three points next week, before going to the murderbowl, for a good start to the season.
De Bruyne is just totally unplayable
Tottenham are getting absolutely raped.
Adrian's fuck up should ensure him dropped. Just stick the kid in when he's fit then be done with these other two.
He's not going to be dropped. Alisson did basically the same thing against Leicester this time last season. It's an occupational hazard of being a twat with the ball at the back.
He really is a maestro.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Yep, when he's really on his game there's just no way to defend against him. Cover the first six passes and he'll drop one with perfect accuracy onto the seventh player's toe.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Blind faith says Spurs are gonna take something.
Spurs with Fifa levels of accuracy.
That 'touches in opposition box' count can't be correct.
Well done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smjffy
lol.
Fuck sake what happened there? Var?
Handball fam
VAR my Lord, VAR.
Dropping two to Liverpool already.
Yeah, the West Ham fans were all over that chant as well today.
It's pretty much the end of football as a spectator sport. All you do is spend your time watching to see if the ref has his finger in his ear.
That was beautiful. Play that game again 100 times and city win by 5+ every time.
2 on target from Spurs with 0.22 'Expected goals' :harold:
VAR shouldn't be going near that. Genuinely disgraceful.
Why not? It's clearly a handball.
More legit than the one Wolves had chalked off last week, at least the ball went to Jesus off his arm. Boly had no chance or idea about the ball hitting him.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
It's not clearly handball, but the ball clearly hits his hand/arm, which is a strict liability thing now for that (absolute bullshit rule change but lol City). I doubt it's a penalty in his own box (unless given on field).
There have been some silly handball calls with VAR, but this one was ok I think. He plays the pass that results in the goal with his arm.
It's clearly handball under the current handball rule. Given it's impossible to police handballs unless they make it like they have now, I think it's the correct way to have the rule.
This is the kind of instance where a single game xG total is useful. It's just a shot count but better, and just tells you the exact same thing as what Spikey has said in the post above you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
This is pretty much it.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
If VAR has to check things, it's better to make it as black and white as they seem to have. Still leaving it to an interpretation with VAR would see it being relatively pointless.
They do still need to do a better job of communication in the stadium. I know someone who went and he said all they got was a blurry photo on the screen and that was it.
Obviously the problem is the handball rule. Not VAR
What should the handball rule be?
It was fine as it was.
Exactly. This is horse shit.
It wasn't, there were constantly arguments about "was it intentional, was it not, does it matter" blah blah blah. Rose tinted spectacles.
And there was nothing wrong with the arguments. Same as with fouls etc. You can't make football black and white to this degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
It probably is. Jesus had two touches in the spurs box for the disallowed goal. At a corner, in the last minute of the game at 2-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Do you ever shut upQuote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
What's happened to the handball rule?
If it hits the hand, it's handball.
Even if an opposing player twats it straight at the arm/hand of a defender?
Has anyone tried that yet if so?
It only counts for offensive players.
“I’m old school – I love the flow of the game and the enthusiasm. But if we want to get the game better I’m fine with it, but I learned after the game if the ball touched the Tottenham hand then the goal is disallowed which is absurd."
That's what De Bruyne said. Would it mean that the ball is just dead if it hit a Spurs hand accidentally?
It's like having my very own angry little Scottish coke head stalker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
They won't VAR it unless it leads to a goal/penalty so effectively it'll only be called if it leads to a major advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Being back the migraines you nonce looking weirdoQuote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
:D
What are you trying to achieve with this? You may as well go shout at pigeons for all the difference it's making. You probably do to be honest.
Where has this beef come from?
Wrong thread, but Tesco in Liffey Valley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Literally no idea, he just started giving these sorts of replies to most of my posts in the football threads one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
We need some good forum needle anyway.
I just think you’re weird is all. Nothing more nothing less. Well aside from looking like you get off on grooming children.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Glass house. Shards everywhere.
I'm well at peace with the fact I'm weird. I think perhaps you might need to come to terms with the same, given your extremely well-adjusted reaction.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Square go, boyQuote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Is he trying to fight me?
:D
Shank him with one of your wanky knives.
*Wanky chibs.
And then refuse him medical treatment.
He's Scottish, I can just sit back and let my extra 20 years of lifespan win the battle for me.
Sure about that?
Chelsea: Kepa, Azpilicueta, Christensen, Zouma, Emerson, Mount, Jorginho, Kante, Pedro, Giroud, Pulisic.
Leicester: Schmeichel, Ricardo, Evans, Soyuncu, Fuchs, Choudhury, Ndidi, Tielemans, Maddison, Perez, Vardy.
I might be a wreck, but he's a wreck AND Scottish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
Fair.
That was a lovely header.
Shit's going to hit the fan with the handball rule once someone Maradonas one in only to have it chalked off because it grazed someone's little finger in midfield in 'the build-up'.
Did you have to use Maradona as an example when discussing handball? Took me a few seconds to work out 'Maradonas one in' didn't refer to the hand of God.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I couldn't bring myself to use the phrase 'absolute worldy'.
And you're a better person for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Same :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mo
:d
Maybe you'll fix that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
I thought I liked VAR, then I didn't, then I did. I think I'm back to disliking it now. It needs to be smoothed out and whilst I first found the suspense in waiting for a decision to be exciting, I now find it to be far too time consuming and whether it goes for you or against, it's just another excuse to slow down the game.
If you took VAR, throw ins and subs etc, I reckon we get to see roughly 60 minutes of actual football a game.
I'd rather the usual debate that goes with disputed decisions happens between officials. For that reason, I think VAR is good.
Didn't it average out to a bit under that before VAR anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smjffy
At Brighton on Saturday there was a lengthy VAR check on the disallowed goal, and then 1 minute of added time at the end of the half. Factor in the new hokey-kokey goalkick set-up and it's a time wasters charter.
Why on earth did they change the goal kick rules? What was wrong with it before?
I think VAR could be good but they’re being too pedantic about it. “Clear and obvious”, in an offsides call, should mean clearly ahead of the last player, not two centimetres ahead. And the new handball rule is just shit.
VAR should be about avoiding game-changing obvious errors, not stamping out every bit of ambiguity from the game.
Offside, like the new attacking handball rule is a binary thing. It either is or isn't. They need to change the rule so the line is taken through the torsos. There are also reasonably valid arguments that defining when the ball is played forward precisely is fairly inexact at the moment. In short, it's all gack.
Challenge system is so much better.
I remember having a discussion this previously and the reality is if the technology is there it will be used and used excessively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
I don't watch football much these days, but if it's used anything more than 3 or 4 times a game then it's being used more than is needed.
Where are streams these days?
Hesgoal is pretty reliable for all football.
Thanks, but Disco just sent me a link. Please warn him for piracy.
Footybite is run by the people who ran soccerstreams on reddit. Find the 'preview' for the match you want and it has loads of streams listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Cracking finish.
It will also help all of you to know that I had £5 on Rashford to score first. Also have £5 on us to win 2-0, 3-0 or 3-1.
He came from France!
Brilliant finish from Tony.
Lovely goal :cool:
Martial has scored 50 goals for us holy shit lol Never would've imagined for some reason.
3-1 til the 90th minute, when Rashford double fucks you by getting the 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
They don't seem to be very good for me these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
You come to recognise a few on there which are usually good. "youpit" almost always works well for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I'm officially on Team Waff.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
He did a slide tackle whilst face down on his chest.
I don't think it's ridiculous to say he's the best slide tackler in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
So are Wolves having a bit of a Burnley bounce here? They looked pretty crap last week and haven't been much/any better in this.
United looking great which is disappointing. AWB really is a cheat code as someone mentioned last week. McTominay still seems useless which is a saving grace. Hopefully they return to form in the 2nd half and concede a few
Adama has been on the protein since I last saw him.
If we had a better player than Lingard at number 10 I think we'd be in danger of being a really good team.
This guy Lingard, I hate to say it considering he's still so young with so much promise, but I'm not sure he's really up to standard.
Should have brought Wayne Rooney back.
I like that whoever whoever is doing the game for NBC has our boy down as Danjames and done away with the silly Daniel bit altogether.
Dan James just makes him sound like an Aussie convict.
I really like AWB, though. Can't tell if it's just being so used to praying Ashley Young does literally anything positive or not.
Lol it really really does actually. Much more bad ass than "Daniel James".Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Daniel Bellion.
He's about twenty seven. He was 'young and promising' for about four years under Ferguson.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Jesus.
Neves is just too good from that range.
He's 27 in 4 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
I'm a big sucker for shots that go in off the bar too.
I would love to have seen that disallowed.
Every game that goes by is making me dislike VAR more and more.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Lads :face:
John's always been completely incapable of spotting sarcasm, but I'm surprised at Spiky getting done there.
Why is Rashford not taking penalties?
Spikey's penchant for loving to DON me senseless caught him out there.
Because I took out Pogba and subbed in Rashford and God absolutely HATES me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Daniel James could do with looking around.
He missed it on purpose so he could pretend to look bothered.
Luke Shaw on corners wake me up when the international break rolls around.
How/why are Traore’s arms so big? I don’t think i’ve seen biceps like that outside of the powerlifting world
Racist.
Did Doherty get injured or was he just shite?
Greenwood 89' soon come :drool:
He injured himself in the warm up but Wolves were hoping he could play through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
:(
Get lost Wolves with your crap lower league colour scheme.
I realize no one has won at Molineux since January or whatever the fuck but GOD FUCKING DAMNIT man.
Which colours are permitted in the top flight? Are Norwich OK?
(I actually rather enjoy their ridiculous golden orange)
If only we had some sort of marquee, big-money-signing attacking player to try and dominate games for us.
To be fair if Rashford takes that pen, you probably win 2 or 3-1.
A point against Wolves ain't too bad tbf.
Two points dropped . Adama came on and start cutting shapes. But again, his end product is lol-worthy.
I thought Neville was pretty lol tonight. Absolutely desperate to stir the pot.
Nice to see the tide turning against the chancing gobshite.Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
'...Manschter Unarrtid.'
The Puskas nominees are up and my pick, purely because its at everyone's local Goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfmyySHDEc
I don't say this to neg on women's football as I thought the World Cup was quite good, but surely there must be a competitive barrier to entry for these things?
The stadium that goal was scored in has at least one side that doesn't exist and one end that's made of trees.
My nephew scored a banger in front of what looked like more spectators last weekend, would he have been eligible had I recorded it?
It's a good strike but even I would have saved that.
:D
That's a shambolically brilliant goal.
And that's even better.
What the fuck?
If it was an official competition, yes. This happens every year with the blokes too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I'm sure I've seen what look like Sunday league goals in the Puskas nominations, so I think yes it would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
There've been ones from friendlies in too. As long as it's an 11 a side and was recorded I don't think they really give a fuck, which is fine.
It’s a nonsense, for men and women.
It's a bit of fun. Once a year FIFA pretend they give a shit about the nobodies, some of whom in turn get their brief moment of glory.
Can Baz get nominated for a GS worldie?
No, because he's shit. The Reid though. :cool:
Took me a minute there to realise GS didn't mean Gaseous Snake.
I'd pay money to see Henry's face if he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
https://twitter.com/bbcsport/status/...394666496?s=21
Man Utd, the Everton of Manchester.
Yeah, I saw that. :D
Ambitious people, them Glazers.
Everton will still be Everton no matter who they buy so you may as well take the money.
Also I don't see how sending Rojo to a rival could be a bad thing anyway.
It doesn't make much sense does it.
This player who we deem not good enough for our team cannot go to another team or they might have a better team than us.
Almost as if it might not be entirely true.
Have teams suddenly started reading social media comment sections?
What came out from our good journalists was that Everton wanted to loan him and we were only interested in selling.
I mean that's fair, not getting a fee back would have left us with just the 6 centre halves and no money with which to try and get a quick replacement.
I imagine they'd have wanted us to pay at least some of his wages; may as well keep him around rather than pay him to play for a team in the same league.
Although I suppose you could argue we'd be sabotaging them given what a maniac he is.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...e-ian-holloway
Deranged twat.
Well aware of the make up of IFAB, then.
"I hope we get out of Brexit, because that’s what we all voted for, and sort that out, because you cannot have someone telling us how to do our own game"
Well, quite.
"I hope we get out of Brexit... [...]"
So, he wants to stay? :cab:
He wants to GET OUT OF BREXIT, mate.
And he wouldn't thank you, a foreigner, for questioning him tbqfh.
I don't know why Brexit hasn't been talked about more in British football. It's going to be a complete clusterfuck if we're back to the days of EU people counting as forriners.
Yep - if there is no freedom of movement (as is suggested) then the Premier League as we know it comes to an end. I think they are just trying to pretend they are above it.
Surely there's too much money involved for them to allow it to be fucked about with too much.
Actually, what are the rules that British clubs are subject to in both domestic and European competitions?
The Champions League is home grown quota now only, no? In which case, and if the Premier League operates the same type of thing, maybe it doesn't matter.
It's home grown in both, the bigger issue is whether the same numbers of players will be able to get into the country without freedom of movement.
Not really. Highly paid professionals aren't really going to be on the immigration hitlist, are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Nor medium paid ones, or perhaps even low paid ones.
Yeah, if it's all homegrown as far as the competitions go then the rules for coming here will just be so slack that almost anyone that has even once touched a football will be allowed in. Think how the 'fit and proper person' test used to be.
There's not much difference between Jamal Smith and Papa Bouba Frimpong anyway. A smaller influx wouldn't see the world cave in, so long as the best can still be signed.
On Holloway, he's always been a thick twat. Good to see him embarassing himself.
Maybe stockpiling youngsters might be problematic though.
You'd be surprised. The Home Office are cunts. The top people will get in but they will easily argue that there is an equally skilled British equivalent to Martin Montoya.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
At the very least I think the days of lower league teams bringing in a trendy German manager and loads of his own players will end.
Yeah and I'm convinced that if it would have been a larger part of the initial debate about Brexit (here's how Brexit would affect YOUR club), the vote might have been quite different. I reckon a lot of people who want it themselves don't actually realize that it might affect the things they like and their club etc, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Just speculating, of course. Forriner and all.
Arise Sir Paul Ince.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Deal to buy Bury rejected the other day. They’ll be chucked out of the Football League on Friday unless something is sorted, which looks pretty unlikely.
Is it £1m or £8m that they owe? Either way, surely either Manchester Blue or Red could step and become superheroes or is that something that is way too farfetch'd...
They should try getting some fans and sponsors.
Going through a Shakespeare phase?Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Sorta sounds like get out of the crisis for lack of a better word rather than no Brexit but i could be wrong.
That scenario would be the worst. Global titan made to look like benevolent saviour and like they give a flying shit, whilst Bury, who for all intents and purposes cheated their way into the league above, get to keep their unearned place. It's harsh on the fans, and easy for me to say as it's not my club, but football needs Bury expelled from the league. Possibly along with Bolton. If expulsion and winding up of clubs who are 100+ years old isn't the wake up call English football needs then it's the end of the Football League as you've grown to know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
There's been too many close calls. I have absolutely no idea how Portsmouth came out of it.
Jack Butland is truly awful now. Was he ever really good?
Boltons manager has resigned which probably says the writing is on the wall for them.
I don't see Bury coming out of it either. That they had a perfectly good takeover deal rejected because the owner even still wants more money, says that they probably need to go as a wake up call.
Fulham currently 2-0 up at half time, having had 89% possession. :drool: About as dominant a half as I've seen.
Stoke are utterly rancid. Whole vibe of the team stinks, they could drop again.
How has Nathan Collins been since he came on?
Also, is McClean really left back?
He was left back first half and left wing back second. Both equally poor. Collins hard to say, looks comfortable on the ball I guess.
Imagine Nathan Jones will get the boot soon unless he really turns things around, they weren't great last season after he took over.
From what I've read on Twitter they look like a team playing to get him the boot. Haven't broke sweat.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Funny how Gary and Phil don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Nobody seems to.
Bury get double the gates of Accrington, who at least at the moment seem perfectly able to survive and thrive in League One. It's always about villainous cunts buying the clubs, never about anything else (and if your club has been bought by someone who isn't a villainous cunt then you're definitely in the minority).
They are Bury boys, I think his mum and dad gave been heavily involved in the club. Surely they can chuck a quid in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Are they allowed to? Would be conflict of interest as they already chuck quids into Salford (or do they? dun dun dun)
Would be good publicity for almost anyone else but not them, they'd be vilified some way even if they did bail them out. Let's not kid ourselves that all the wailing and crying about Salford isn't purely because of who owns it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Anyway, why bail out these clubs at all? It would only promote more frivolous activity if they can just run cap in hand to a local celebrity when it all goes tits up.
_
Good point. They're probably eyeing up gig lane to use for Salford's reserve team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
It's a question of dodgy owners again rather than Bury thinking they're Rushden and Diamonds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Gotta love those fit and proper tests, init.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Speaking of crisis clubs, Gateshead got their first win of the season the other day. New owners came in over the summer and squared off the council debt so they can play at the International Stadium.
Ignore the stupid fucking commentary.
MLS seems like such a joke league. I can't respect goals like that, when it almost looked like the defenders bet on Vela getting goal of the year beforehand or something.
I mean it's two players making bad challenges (after being run ragged for 40 minutes already), it's not really representative of the league as a whole. The standard isn't amazing, but it's pretty decent, and getting better all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Elkeson, or now known as 'Ai Kesen' has completed his Chinese citizenship application and is expected to represent China for the upcoming World Cup qualifiers. He's lived and played in China since 2013, so not really a big deal.
Thank fuck for that second sentence, I was about to kick off.
And he loves rice.
Do MLS commentators regularly imitate South American commentators? ("GOOOOOOOOOOL", etc.)
Nah, they imitate NFL commentators
I’ve been seeing that “they have families” line quite a bit on Twitter lately. Seems to be the new “son’s crying” trend.
Torino win was easily, the best game ive ever witnessed live. All things considered. Its costly and time-consuming doing away days but it was super nice.
Aston Villa Heaton, Engels, Mings, Guilbert, Taylor, McGinn, Luiz, Grealish, Trezeguet, Wesley, Jota
Everton Pickford, Coleman, Mina, Keane, Digne, Schneiderlin, Gomes, Richarlison, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin
Everton starting with that donkey up front again is confusing
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...after-18969755
Fucking hell Palmer :face:
I don't know why but I find such joy in reading Lawro's predictions. His utter predictability at terrible predictions and clear lack of giving an iota of a shit should annoy me but no.
Instead I read stuff like this and I'm just impressed that he's convinced someone still thinks he should be paid for his craft.
That's what has defined Villa for the past few years as they've pished untold amounts of money up the wall, structure. I'm not even going to ask what 'a real identification' is.Quote:
Aston Villa got beat at home last weekend but I think they can get a draw against Everton. They have spent a lot of money in the transfer window but you can see they have a structure in place. There is a real identification about them.
My favorite twist to that story is that even if JT, captain leader legend that he is, had managed to debut for Chelsea aged 11. Palmer played Manchester United in that final.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny
Does he have a severe mental illness? Surely that's the only explanation for saying something like that.
Haven't Liverpool gone about six years undefeated in Lawro prediction world?
That's your lot mate, I think he had you winning every game until mid-March last year which rather bobbins'd up his predicted table.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Palmer might be a bit out on the facts of that, but he's right about Terry as a player. He wasn't 'world class'. He was a good player in a good team.
If he’d have played 28 years of top flight football debuting at 11, I think he’d have earned the title.
He said they beat them and went on to win the Cup, which is correct because they beat Chelsea in the Semis. The Terry thing is amazing though.
https://www.givemesport.com/1474457-...asons-in-a-rowQuote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
As of March you were up to three season on a row
He's been to cautious, if anything.
Unsurprisingly, Everton still look meh. Not sure why they bother with Richarlison on the right either.
I'd be so happy if Everton managed to get relegated.
How much have Everton spent on their front 4 of Iwobi, Richarlison, Kean and Sigurdsson? £150m? :harold:
To be fair, Richarlison hit the ground running.
I don't see what there is to snigger about? Sigurdsson had his best return in a decade, Richarliason bettered his debut season and seemingly found a new position to boot whilst the other two haven't even got started. Iwobi will flop hard, mind and Kean could go either way. So £85-100M on their top two goalscorers for last season, given today's market that's not too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Cunts let me down tonight though. Fuck you Villa.
Iwobi (and Kean) at least bring a bit of energy when they come on.
Bernard/Iwobi on the left, Gylfi behind the striker, Richarlison on the right and Kean up front could work well. Although just removing Calvert-Lewin from the equation would be a big positive.
Bury owner claims to have sold the club at the 11th hour (very convenient), so Football League considering an extension. I mean by definition they’ve given one as the deadline was midnight last night. I don’t hold out much hope for Bury though as Dale is clearly a charlatan.
How much is in TTH Trust? We should make them an offer
Selling to a football analytics company, and so the game continues to eat itself.
Yeah. Those bastards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Norwich Krul, Aarons, Hanley, Godfrey, Lewis; Trybull, Leitner; Cantwell, Stiepermann, Buendía; Pukki
Chelsea Kepa, Azpilicueta, Christensen, Zouma, Emerson; Kovacic, Jorginho, Mount; Pedro, Abraham, Pulisic
Norwich are so fun to have in the League.
Went to get a sandwich from across the road and missed both goals :moop:
Could end about 9 all this one.
Good to see the two lads who did so well in the Championship score. I hope Chelsea do well as it might have wider ramifications for the league. Unlikely, but you can hope.
Oh and up the Villa.
Pukki :cool:
Chelsea’s defence is proper stinking.
Is Pukki some sort of new Vardy or what?
Comparing Pukki to a donkey like Vardy :harold:
You're just jealous that Sweden has never produced someone of Pukki's quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
His first ever goal from outside the box.
Brighton Ryan, Burn, Dunk, Duffy, Montoya, Propper, Stephens, March, Maupay, Andone, Trossard
Southampton Gunn, Valery, Danso, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Redmond, Ings, Adams
Man Utd De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, McTominay, Pogba, James, Lingard, Rashford, Martial
Crystal Palace Guaita, Ward, Kelly, Cahill, Van Aanholt, Milivojevic, Kouyate, McArthur, Schlupp, Zaha, Ayew
Sheffield United Henderson, Basham, Egan, O'Connell, Baldock, Lundstram, Norwood, Freeman, Stevens, McGoldrick, Robinson
Leicester Schmeichel, Ricardo, Evans, Soyuncu, Fuchs, Choudhury, Tielemans, Praet, Maddison, Perez, Vardy
Watford Foster, Femenia, Dawson, Cathcart, Holebas, Capoue, Doucoure, Cleverley, Hughes, Gray, Deulofeu
West Ham Fabianski, Fredericks, Diop, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Rice, Noble, Lanzini, Yarmolenko, Anderson, Haller
Sutton constantly seething at VAR is quite fun.
Abraham and Mount are going to wind up in an England shirt before the year is out.
As they should. They don't have any competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
No Angel Gomes on the bench again :(
Who exactly is Tammy Abraham displacing from a fully fit England squad?
If anyone wants to shit on my bets/hope they all fail here they are:
£5 on Rashford FGS & United to win 3-0 or 4-0
£5 on Man United to win to nil, Martial AGS & over 9.5 corners
£7.97 on BTTS NO.
4-1, Jesse Lingard (4).
9.5 corners?
Nineteen of them hitting the first man.
Over 9 corners, they say .5 so people don't complain if there are exactly X corners.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Wut. How can anyone be retarded enough to argue that 9 is more than 9?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
How can Marcus Rashford, who gives up penalties to whoever wants them, have the confidence to take those shit free-kicks he takes?
A crackhead in a local bookies?Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Well they're into betting so....Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Ashley Young :moop:
Did they really think the chunky one could last a full season?
Thought a proven free-kick taker was coming on then. Fucking hell.
ofc Palace had to score.
Yikes, that's atrocious from the two centre backs.
Wahey he is. Luke Shaw wants selling next summer.
You work with the general public, so I have no idea how people being thick is news to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
I'd diagnose someone with cognitive impairment at work if they tried to argue that with me.
Lingard is infuriating.
STONEWALL.
Fuck VAR.
You can make a case for him in games where the other team attacks, because he can PRESS and create space; but in these games if he doesn't score from thirty yards he might as well be dead.
Another quality refereeing performance here.
He's gotten into some decent positions but his first touch has been Lukaku-esque.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Tell you what though the 'tactical fouling' from Palace has been perfect. Where was that when the silly old twat was in charge of England?
Harvey fucking Barnes you superstar
ffs.
He missed that on purpose to make Paulp Ogba look good.
For fuck's sake :D
West Hull scum.
Booked for a non-dive...
James getting booked twice in two games for diving when they were both fucking clear fouls. Absolutely ridiculous.
Liverpool : Adrian, Alexander-Arnold, Matip, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Mane, Salah, Firmino.
Arsenal : Leno, Maitland-Niles, Sokratis, Luiz, Monreal, Xhaka, Guendouzi, Willock, Ceballos, Aubameyang, Pepe
The ref has been shit.
Absolutely ridiculously awful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Just checking in to ask if Gary Neville has called Rashford a disgrace to the United shirt for missing a penalty or that's only Pogba.
What a finish that is.
Fair play on Pogba to win the ball back after losing it too.
I hope they lose so I don't have to hear OGB talking about late comebacks.
They should put a personal highlight reel together from this game for when Rashford issues his wage demands.
I wrote that when he gave the throw-in away, and then he just stands there as they score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Where do people get streams these days? All the reddits I used have been banned and the Discord server I was getting other links through has disbanded.
Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
FootybiteQuote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Footybite.com is where the soccerstreams admins moved to.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
De Gea should be saving that.
That Palace goal is very, very funny.
I'm not quite sure that's true, as for instance I'd hold Henrik Larsson as a much more accomplished player than Pukki, from what I've seen so far, in the same mould. We also have Zlatan, who accomplished a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Though if he is indeed the real deal, I'd happily admit jealousy that he's not Swedish, kind of the same way I'm envious of all "big footballing" nations that can go into a World Cup hoping to actually win the thing, whereas the best you can ever hope for as a Swede is to get through the group stage.
Incoming GNev MELTDOWN!!!!
I suspect Arsenal will be a much tougher challenge than usual today.
What formation are Arsenal playing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trancemeister
Diamond with Ceballos as 10
Arsenal's kits this season really are quite nice.
United equalised in the 89th minute and then still managed to lose?
:lol:
Arsenal are out of any conversation as far as being in games like this goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
It sounds mental but I do think the quality of the kits after these last few years has actually improved the general mood around the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Loving the PES style wide camera view.
Arsenal midfielders are all absolutely nackered and there’s 15 minutes still to go.
Pepe would be decent if he had a right foot.
VAR can fuck right off.
First time they've ever lost to an injury time goal at Old Trafford, according to Jeff Stelling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
VAR can indeed get fucked. 'Right' decisions are all well and good but no one has a fucking clue what is going on, aren't they supposed to be showing replays on the big screens?
Dan Burn is a quality player, apart from his uncanny knack at getting goals chalked off. Fuck knows why they've spaffed so much money on that Webster character, I guess Potter may want another ball player instead of Duffy eventually (if this experiment lasts). The Andone tackle looked a bit of a shocker, I assume it was, he's a dirty bastard. 2 weeks, 2 decent performances, 1 point. A bit worrying really. Both goals on overloads down the right as well. Southampton were shit but canny, a bit like West Ham last week.
If we have the same level of performance in the second half and the result stays like this I’m happy. This year isn’t about beating Liverpool at Anfield.
Much more defensively solid from Arsenal.
Interested to see how that lasts now they need a goal. Signs at the end that they were folding a little. That Ceballos has tried 2 cross field balls that have somehow picked out Liverpool players so far.
Don’t understand all the people saying ‘they need to stop the full backs playing’ but the whole point is that if you try that then they play through the middle where they definitely will destroy you. You can’t cut off both well so you have to concentrate on shutting down one avenue and defending what’s created by the other.
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Had no idea The Big Show was a blade.
The way Sky Sports gets around the ad time limits is so funny. Cut back from ads to show Firmino do a random flick and then we're back off to an ad.
We'll be hearing about that one...
Are they actually going to start punishing this?
Braindead defending from Sideshow.
Luiz sent to the shops for some sweets and a milkshake there, that's properly good from Salah.
Salah. :drool:
Looks more like Dave Mastiff to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Arsenal do love to pass out the back regardless of the scoreline.
Bale and James have both playing from the start for Madrid is something i didnt think we would see ever again.
That really was a David Luiz special.
That'll do.
Kind of stopped playing after 70 mins but we'd earned the right to really. Salahs run and goal was top drawer stuff.
I thought the no replays thing was decided? Football fans are a rough lot, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Andone probably had a red coming, he may be that kind of player. I think it was vs Chelsea last season, when he came on as a sub and immediately clattered into David Luiz(?), totally unprovoked and his first action in the game.
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Enjoyed the Liv-Arse game very much. The first half was intriguing as games often are when there's differing formations and spaces to exploit; then second half Liverpool were quality.
Salah's only 27. Maybe still has a chance at becoming the best player in the world.
Replays are at every ground except Anfield and Old Trafford, as they don't have big screens.
We also have nowhere to put one either.
I think I read they've agreed that replays will not be shown until after a decision has been made, hence why you get nothing but the 'Under review' screen. Supposedly to stop the home fans adding pressure to the referee.
Replays will only be shown after a decision has been overturned.
Or Brighton, but they do have big screens.
There isn't even an under review screen.
Although there was an advert about VAR in the program today. Was the Brighton goal ruled out for offside or for a foul on the 'keeper? No one had any idea what was happening or what the ref (who was fucking useless) had actually ruled on the field.
The seething at blatantly correct decisions going against you on the big screen is one of the few reasons to actually attend rugby matches. They should definitely show the decision in real-time at the football.
Cant afford big size tv's, thats why.Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
A Limerick player got sent off vs Sligo earlier for elbowing a steward in the head. Ex Sligo player and all, classy.
https://www.nova.ie/wp-content/uploa...eve-Coogan.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
That shitshow was something to do with Sligo was it?
What a strike by Barnes.
Hang on, Man U lost at home to Crystal Palace? lol
Abraham scoring twice was a nice surprise, if he and Mount prove to be actually good and then Hudson-Odoi comes back then we will finally have got somewhere with the academy.
Jesus just seen the Palace goals on the news. De Gea :harold:
We weren't great, but good enough to win. The refereeing was appalling.
That could have been red. What a nutter Ederson is.
Waist high, studs showing, completely cleaned him out, nowhere near the ball.
Never mind could, it should have been a red.
Maybe it's the sun on the grade 1 hairdos as Walker's been massively rash as well.
What a free kick that is. Best I've seen in ages.
I continue to question why he was allowed to go out on loan.
Be real. He isnt getting in over the front three of Liverpool. He would be just used as a sub. At least at Bournemouth, he should get more perceived game timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
We also have about 70 games to play this season. He'd have seen some time.
You’re better off having him potentially taking points off rivals than pissing about in easy champions league group games and the league cup.
Was quite surprised that Silva penalty claim wasn't awarded on VAR. What has to happen for an onfield decision to be overturned in that regard? Seems an almost impossibly high bar.
A clear and obvious error is needed.
If he's had a clear view of it and deemed the contact not enough there's nothing VAR can do.
The reads as if a 'wrong' decision to not award a penalty would only be overtured if the ref hasn't seen it, rather than just having made an error in terms of determining the extent of any contact.
Spurs will probably end up winning this but they've been absolutely shite in all of their games this season.
Wolves were poor in the first half. Barners scored a screamer to put Burnley 1-0 up. Burnley have looked threatening every time the ball goes long
Why does your manager refuse to play Vallejo when he's much better than Bennett?Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
This football is straight out of the AVB era
Did you see the game in Torino? Vallejo had an awful game. He played on the right side of the three and continued to let the ball run across his body and then boot it out for a throw, lose it or give away a free-kick. Stick with our Ryan for now lad.
Get Adama on now
I didn't have the 350 Euros required.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
That's a clear penalty.
They're clearly trying to side with the ref which is shit.
Errr that’s a pen. Joel Wilson in at Stockley Park
Obviously a pen. I bet Mike Dean bullied the VAR guys into not contradicting him on that
Kane's finishing has been awful for some time now, and commentators always act surprised when he misses a clear chance
Burnley were excellent. Wolves got a var penalty which I don't think it was. 1-1
Looking at the reply, I can't see how you can give a penalty for that in the 95th minute.
3 games in and 3 draws for Wolves.
Okay, wasn't expecting our first win today. Grind a few more of those out, lads. That said, I'm not used to the bottom of the league having just the one side without 3 points. One win off third. :D
EDIT: Watford next. Ah.
Poch coming out with some seriously scary comments in the presser. Says the squad is the most unsettled it's been since he moved to spurs and that the next week will be very decisive as to the fortunes of the team. Oof
I see Griezmann playing for the last bastions of all that is good. How did all that turn out or is it still not resolved?
He should have whored himself out more and got away while the going was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Seems to have just quietly disappeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
As it tends to do.
Bolton’s takeover has collapsed, so they have the same Tuesday 5pm deadline as Bury (who are apparently getting fans to clean the stadium and selling tickets for their weekend fixture) but I just don’t think it’s conceivable that a deal to buy a football club can be completed (or ‘99%’ completed) in that time. Looking bleak for both clubs.
People seem to be blaming the current owner of Bolton, and I'm sure he hasn't helped, but didn't he only come in when they were last on the verge of going bust when they couldn't pay their players? The debt they had racked up with that mug Eddie Davies was astonishing for a club of their size (I doubt banks would have ever bailed them out to the extent that he had), so they've probably been run badly since their brief run of Premiership form.
Also who is that in the picture?
Wesley? He's been at the pies.
Two weeks retired and eating nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
That United medical is off then.
He would still be their best number ten.
That is quite some effort in two weeks.
I wonder what their calorie intake is when they're match fit and training daily?
Surely with two teams going to the wall in League 1 this is the perfect opportunity for the old firm to strike and implant themselves into the middle tiers of English football.
And Sunderland still won't go up. :D
I would guess not as much as you think. Maybe 4000. On match day maybe 4500. Definitely not Michael Phelps tierQuote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
If it's not all GB teams then it should be none. It wouldn't take long for the novelty factor of the Old Firm to wear off either.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Swansea and Cardiff are in the league. They are part of the GB?
RIP Bury by the sounds of it. The last minute buyer has now pulled out.
I mean it was looking unlikely anyway but you’re right, this has to be it. Harsh on supporters (especially those who volunteered to clean up Gigg Lane to get it match ready) but hopefully there will be enough who give a crap to start a Phoenix club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Not that I think they should, but I can't understand why a big club with questionable ownership (who doesn't?) wouldn't stump up to bask in the publicity.
Because it’s literally against the rules.
They can all work around FFP and all manner of things. If that’s the excuse then they just don’t want to.
FFP avoidance is literally the same thing as tax avoidance, it's just creative accounting. Shoving brown paper bags to clubs that are literally being monitored by independent auditors are not.
Badly run businesses close all the time, I'm amazed we don't get ten a year given how useless most clubs are.
Which rule? I'm aware of the owners not being able to have stakes in 2 clubs, but which rule prohibits a club donating funds to another club?Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
I'm not reading a several hundred page PDF to quote it. Just going off what I've read.
Yeah, that kind of thing isn't going to be allowed. It's a one way street to little suitcase corruption at the end of every season.
Let me buy one of your shit regen youth players for £12m. He only has a PA of 77 but im here to help.
EFL statement at 7, apparently. Also appears there is more than one new bidder for Bury, including Jill Neville. Really don’t think this is going to come off though - deal will have to be done this week in order for Bury to play Saturday (league said no more postponements) and there’s already been one deadline extension.
The Rumbelows cup should see a few of our lot get a run out at last.
Connolly starting his first game for Brighton, on that front.
Molumby will hopefully appear for Millwall too, and Obafemi for Southampton.
I think Idah is starting for Norwich.
One of those players is Strong Nose?
Obafemi.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Raining goals for the Irish contingent.
Is there anywhere that gives lineups and goals? LiveScore hasn't a thing.
Soccerway.
I found flashscores too which has an app but is a bit too centred around betting.
Enda Stevens being substituted in the 24th minute could be a serious shitter.
Scored and now off injured. Pulled up running through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
That'll be a month at least so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Just watching Match of the Day now and fair play to the United fans being raging on Saturday. Fucking awful refereeing. They should've had two more penalties and a freekick for that supposed simulation by Dan James. His goal was very nice.
That's it lads. Concern trolling off of Liverpool. Season's done.
Bury expelled from the League.
Getting rid of Sanchez and Lukaku in the same window though. Respect, respect, respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Shitty situation all round. No word on Bolton yet.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49451896
And two months of Ashley Young starting every week. :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
Get FotMob app it's glorious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Bolton have 14 days. I don't get that. What difference will a further 2 weeks make when the same situation's been going on for months? I guess Bolton's games have actually been going ahead.
Bury and Bolton should do a merger. How many shit teams does the outskirts of Manchester need? They could be called Burton (fuck Burton Albion we force them to merge with Derby).
No room for all this grass roots shit in the BT Sports Era.
Southend having to merge with West Ham though :(
Football lives and dies on money-grabbing immorality, if people really think clubs are community clubs then why do they burn all their money paying passers-by to play football for the first team.
Clubs fall into the hands of people like Steve Dale et al because no sensible businessman would ever, ever buy a football club. They are just money-burning pits.
A lad in the office asked why governments are so ready to bail out banks but not football clubs. I felt too dumbfounded to respond.
As most times when these sort of things come around I have little sympathy. You know your gate receipts, therefore you know what you have to play with. Don’t fill your squad with overpaid (presumably shit in these cases) and you won’t go under.
At the end of the day the system is still the issue. He was allowed to buy a club Known to be in trouble for a pound while having to offer no proof that he had money that would actually solve those issues.
He didn’t overspend on players he just didn’t do anything.
Whoever it was (Wilson, maybe) on Football Weekly the other day was saying that the EFL's checks for Dale when he bought Bury were essentially, "You got money then, yeah?" "Well I've got a line of credit." "Bangin', job done."
If that's the case then maybe they should bail the club out for letting them be bought by a disinterested charlatan.
Responded to a facebook post about it that basically said "Why doesn't United/City bail them out?!" with "Well beyond it being illegal I mean imagine if that became the norm, almost every lower league club would go tits up trying to cheat the system and get up the pyramid."
To which he responded "Yea but Bayern bailed out Dortmund once."
Aye, a club that has claimed to have the highest attendance average in world football vs. the 13th most important football club in the greater Manchester county area with a capacity of approx 11,000.
Mind you I don't know the details of the Bayern Dortmund thing very much but it just seemed like such an odd response I had no idea how to even respond.
It was all down to Day, the chairman before Dale. His 'businesses' basically lived on the spend big now, hope it pays off later kinda bulllshit that drives most things into the ground. He leveraged multiple loans against the club (with particular, fairly large sums of it going to a dodgy as fuck account for 'leveraging fees') to help his other business, then used whatever the fuck was left over to go batshit on wages. Leon fucking Clarke on about 9 grand a week in League Two, along with renting City's old training ground for no apparent reason. Then, obviously, Bury get about 7-10k max per match, unless its a rival. £20-25 a ticket. Running costs, wages, maintenance etc means they were fucked from the second he appeared.
His businesses collapsed, surprisingly, and he fucked off leaving the club with a fair few million of debt. Dale came in, lolled to fuck at the state of it, appointed Ryan Lowe (club legend) as manager who turned out to be actually fucking good at lower league management and got them promoted. Sold a couple of youngsters for decent sums to PL clubs, sold off Clarke to Sunderland for about 500k, and the debt just hoovered it all up. Dale himself is a shit tier businessman, 42 of his 51 companies have been lioquidated. He had fuck all in cash, and it crashed and burned.
The EFL has to be held accountable for their process of determining owners, which is basically 'do you have money matey?' - 'aye sure defo pal' - 'its yours lol', but the club has been fucked ever since Day took over. It was inevitable.
I read that the "42 of his 51 companies have been liquidated" stat is a bit misleading since his whole thing is buying companies on their last legs and trying to turn them round, and it's expected you'd only be successful every now and then.
I don't know if that's true, obviously
Most companies are liquidated for thoroughly normal/mundane reasons - ie they are short-term vehicles for achieving some purpose or other.
Hooray for Bolton.
I'm not sure how you would even craft a 'fit and proper person' test that didn't just limit takeovers to people with an actual pile of cash waiting. And they tend to be people who aren't fit and proper at all beyond their ability to pay.
Would have been fun to see Bolton go too but one out of two isn't bad.
The idiots have missed a trick. I'd have paid £2 for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Well you might still get your wish - they're hardly out of the woods. Could just be prolonging the inevitable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Champions League draw shaping up nicely.
Madrid v PSG
Spurs v Bayern
Barca v Dortmund.
Barca, Dortmund and Inter :drool:
There are so many preconditions in this draw. Country clash protection, day of the week protection, blue/red protection (side of the draw), conflict protection... Probably more.
Some of these groups are great on paper.
Porto being out has meant that Man City slot into the boring group that no one cares about.
Are both Red Bull teams allowed in one group?
I see both RB Leipzig and RB Salzburg are in the draw. Wasn't there a UEFA rule about clubs with the same owners not being allowed to compete in the same competition?
They could have gone into the same group. I don't think that should really be allowed.
The Slavia Prague representatives just laugh and role their eyes as they are drawn as the final team in the group :)Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
1. Messi
2. Van Dijk
3. Ronaldo
According to the leaks.
Considering the possibilities there were before the draw, that's gone quite well for all English teams I think.
Group A: PSG, Real Madrid, Brugge, Galatasaray
Group B: Bayern, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade
Group C: Man City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Zagreb, Atalanta
Group D: Juventus, Atletico Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv
Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, Salzburg, Genk
Group F: Barcelona, Dortmund, Inter Milan, Slavia Prague
Group G: Zenit, Benfica, Lyon, Leipzig
Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille
The teams seriously need to be cut back in that.
Barring the last 3 groups that's a complete waste of everyone's time.
Yes Virgil!
Ballon d'Or next.
Big Virgil :)
:happycry:
Lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INiT1cA_Eqk
I fully agree Eric.
Edit: Lol
https://i.imgur.com/U4UfcGZ.jpg
He's like an old computer attempting to write poetry.
It probably sounds much nicer in French.
It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
I wouldn't chuck out Chelsea, Leverkusen or Benfica that easily.
Think we'll get out of that personally. Ajax won't be the same now and Valencia are dogshit. We did need to avoid the bigger teams who would have us for lunch, so a good draw.
Yeah, I was going to say the same. Everyone thinking that's a tough group are basing that on Ajax last season, rather than Ajax of the last 20 years, and without their two best players they're more likely to be the latter. Lille have sold their best player and are Lille, and Valencia are perennially shit (look at the way Arsenal dispatched them last season). All nice, Western European trips as well. Spurs, followed by, probably City are the toughest groups (for English teams), even though City's is a bit of a joke. I have no idea what Genk or Salzburg are like, but I tend to think they'll probably be not that good - haven't Genk lost a few players to the Premier League (Trossard and Wesley?) - I suppose Salzburg could be a banana skin if their Red Bull money has snaffled them a couple of unknown Manés, but that seems unlikely.
how is Tottenham’s group the hardest? It’s got 2 complete walkover teams in it
Red Star had a decent record in the group at home last year, even if they aren't that good. Most of the groups are packed with shite so Spurs having a 'giant' in there with them makes it hardest by default - they'll probably come second in it whereas all the others could/should win theirs. It's a fairly favourable draw for all the English teams.
Unless Chelsea are bobbins.
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Europa League draw is at midday. The perfect draw im looking for travelling purposes.
Roma/Lazio
APOEL (Cyrprus)
Wolves
Trabzonspor (TUR)
Potential for...
Wolfsburg
Wolves
Wolfsberger
:drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Basel is a great place to visit. Found it a much better trip than Roma.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
I would like to avoid Kazakstan, Russia and Romania.
Avoid Ukraine too.
I've never been for football, but as a general holiday destination Cyprus is crap for anything but a romantic week away. One of the Germans from that pot over Cyprus all day if you're looking at it purely for the trip. Obviously for qualification purposes you take the Cypriots and put nine past them.
You've clearly never done Napa fam.
As a holiday destination it's become way too touristy.
Hotel upon hotel filled with Russians and Brits eating burgers on their quad bikes.
The draw is in an hour. Im looking to travel to at least one away game in the group
C is a right pile of shit.
Ashley Cole butchering half of these names.
Off to Portugal, Sincy.
I'm sure Keeks (who is now naturalised ofc) can take you over.
Sevilla have a bye to the next round.
Go to Bratislava instead Sincere.
Re-create the Euro Trip.
Besiktas
Braga
Slovaks
:drool:
I would prefer a Portugal trip, but I'll have to see what the rest of these man are saying.
There can't be many less glamourous draws than Group B.
Rangers :D
What a group.
Group A
Sevilla
Apoel
Qarabag
Dudelange
Group B
Dynamo Kiev
Copenhagen
Malmo
Lugano
Group C
FC Basel
Krasnodar
Getafe
Trabzonspor
Group D
Sporting CP
PSV
Rosenborg
LASK
Group E
Lazio
Celtic
Rennes
CFR Cluj
Group F
Arsenal
Eintracht Frankfurt
Standard Liege
Vitoria FC
Group G
Porto
Young Boys
Feyenoord
Rangers
Group H
CSKA Moscow
Ludogorets
Espanyol
Ferencvaros
Group I
Wolfsburg
Gent
St Etienne
Olexandriya
Group J
Roma
Borussia Mönchengladbach
Istanbul Basaksehir
Wolfsburg
Group K
Besiktas
Braga
Wolves
Slovan Bratislava
Group L
Manchester United
Astana
Partizan Belgrade
AZ Akmaar
Look at those cheating Germans, swindling their way into 2 groups at once.
They are on a euro ban, behind closed doors?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Sneak in.
You should go to Braga, they have a very cool stadium.
United's away day is going to be difficult. Stadium 10 hours away with the Kazakh mob, stadium fallen apart with the Dutch mob and Stadium lunatics with Partizan...
Hoping to do one.
Also Dundee Derby on BT sports.
Metz vs. PSG is what the cool kids are watchingQuote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Ffs.
😎United
This is the winning of the league tonight.
Spanish prick.
It always sounds Japanese to me. Yoshi Hariata.
I mean he does get touched but it is fucking embarrassing how late he goes down. Ref was an absolute shambles tonight though, bowed to the pressure from the home crowd. I’ll happily take a point in those circumstances.
I often wonder why he doesn't decide to tell the ref he fell. Wait a second, gauge the reaction and then decide how you're going to play it.
I like how Spurs are now having to live through the 2008-2012 era of Arsenal without the benefit of actually winning anything prior to that
#smalltimephonicsonspurs
:D
Phonics is the Arsenal equivalent of the Spurs fans that camp out on the Spurs subreddit
6-2 again
Southampton XI: Gunn, Cedric, Danso, Vestergaard, Bednarek, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Boufal, Ings, Adams.
Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Lindelof, Maguire, Young, McTominay, Pogba, Mata, James, Andreas, Rashford.
Just seen the video of Arter last night :D
He hasn't mastered the Arter diving.
McTominay looks like an athletic version of Buzz McAllister from Home Alone.
James scores some cracking goals.
Lovely stuff from Danuzaj.
Proper finish that. Just twat it lad.
Both teams should score a few here.
Danbriel Jabertan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Duke Jamwick.
My bets btw:
Rashford to score first - DEAD
Man United to win 2-1, 3-1 or 3-0
Man United to score in both halves & over 1.5 corners in each half
Pogba and Daniel James to have a shot on target.
Danny Welbeck putting himself about on his return here.
Pogba's genius ploy of repeatedly giving the ball away to try and set the foundations for future counter attacks being totally wasted by his dreadful teammates here. :nono:
Pereira. :face:
Well that had been coming. Shit.
Shouldn't the one who can head be picking him up there?
We are saved, Matic is here.
Keown really is a dreadful commentator. He's spent most of this half comparing players to outdated stereotypes that you literally never see any more, talking about goalhangers and deep midfielders who want the ball rather than just to hoof people.
Next up a fascinating insight on how De Gea's game is affected by not being allowed to pick it up if his defender rolls it back to him.
The Macho Man is an interesting choice of sub.
What an amazingly idiotic challenge.
How did Wan-Bissaka earn his first professional contract as a winger? He literally has no idea what to do there.
Chelsea Kepa, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Tomori, Emerson, Jorginho, Kovacic, Pulisic, Barkley, Mount, Abraham
Sheff Utd Henderson, Stevens, O'Connell, Egan, Basham, Baldock, Norwood, Lundstram, Freeman, Robinson, McBurnie
Crystal Palace Guaita, Ward, Kelly, Cahill, Van Aanholt, Milivojevic, Kouyate, McCarthur, Schlupp, Zaha, Ayew
Aston Villa Heaton, Guilbert, Engels, Mings, Taylor, Luiz, McGinn, Grealish, Jota, Trezeguet, Wesley
Leicester Schmeichel, Pereira, Evans, Soyuncu, Chilwell, Ndidi, Albrighton, Tielemans, Maddison, Barnes, Vardy
Bournemouth Ramsdale, Mepham, Cook, Ake, Smith, Wilson, Billing, Lerma, Fraser, King, Wilson
Man City Ederson, Walker, Otamendi, Laporte, Zinchenko, Rodrigo, De Bruyne, Silva, Sterling, Mahrez, Aguero
Brighton Ryan, Webster, Dunk, Burn, Montoya, Stephens, Pröpper, March, Bernardo, Maupay, Trossard
Newcastle Dubravka, Krafth, Dummett, Schar, Lascelles, Willems, Almiron, Hayden, Longstaff, Atsu, Joelinton.
Watford Foster, Femenia, Janmaat, Dawson, Cathcart, Kabasele, Doucoure, Hughes, Pereyra, Cleverley, Gray.
West Ham Fabianski, Fredericks, Diop, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Rice, Noble, Anderson, Lanzini, Yarmolenko, Haller.
Norwich Krul, Aarons, Zimmermann, Godfrey, Lewis, Stierpermann, Trybull, Cantwell, Leitner, Buendia, Pukki
Ward Prowse being easily outpaced by Ashley Young then easily outmuscled by Jesse Lingard doesn't say much for him as an athlete.
That's another penalty.
Thought that was in from Young for a second.
Greenwood should play more.
Promote him as the academy poster boy and throw Rashford in the fucking BIN.
Phil Foden not getting a start at home to Brighton is surely a sign that he has to leave City pronto. I know he is still young, but 19 and has only started 3 premier League game.
Won't he be replacing David Silva next season?
About time the tallest player in the league got his head on something. Vestegaard and Bednarek both brilliant and the two in front played well. Having a strong core is going to be so important this season.
Just a shame we are so lacking at full back. The 4222 Hassenhuttl wants to play involves the width coming from the full backs with the 2 attacking midfielders tucking inside, as it is we end up almost playing a 442 with Ings dropping back to help the midfield.
Ahhhhhhh
Zouma over Christensen is a mystery. He’s a pub player.
Is cheering not allowed at Etihad? It's so silent.
How has the referee chopped that Villa goal off. He’s not even claimed the foul and stretches to pass anyway
Outside of the bottom three. Awesome.
Bernardo, shirley. I know he plays right wing as well but pretty sure he'd be seen as future partner to De Bruyne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I thought we played well first half today. And losing by 4 away at City is probably the equivalent of drawing away at Arsenal or United, so on we march!
Anyone watch the Chelsea game, by the way? Can Lampard not coach defending?
I forgot about him. Yes, he should join United.
He’s not exactly been blessed with decent players. Zouma and Azpilicueta should be playing for Everton and Burnley or something. The younger players aren’t much better. Reece James will walk into the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
Can't believe it. City must be buzzing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
What on Earth is Pope playing at leaving that?
Liverpool are winning the league by about 12 points.
https://i.gifer.com/8ks0.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Much better. Burnley not given a sniff.
I think we might go unbeaten and come second. It’ll break my heart. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Then we’ll get number 7 ;)
This is Liverpools year and I can accept it with only the slightest taste of bile.
City aren't going to drop 12 points, never mind lose the league by 12 points.
The league was never won 4 games in. Unless there is statistical evidence saying otherwise.
Juventus blows a 3-0 lead vs Napoli.
I thought that was as good as we've looked yet. The only slight negative being Salah not passing when he should have, twice.
A bit of fortune with the opener, but we'd already smashed the post at that point. I don't remember a Burnley shot after the first 2 minutes.
So City are going to get more than 102 points?Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
But yeah, take the point. Season seems to be shaping up to be much like the last. Can Liverpool match/better whatever City do, as no one else is going to be close by the looks of it.
Koulibaly own goal on stoppage time
I see Osasuna came back. Barcelona are so wank. The post-Messi years are going to be beyond glorious. Spaffing the next couple of transfer windows' budgets on Neymar is only going to hasten the lols.
That Neymar deal appears to have fallen through. Either way though unless LA MASIA, mate, is hiding a gem, they're in some trouble.
That 16 year old they're putting out looks a bit special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Can someone talk me through the disallowed Villa goal. Joke.
Villa are cretins. That's how.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
So are incestuous Paddys, but there we are.
They're more than capable of 102+ just depends if theres another team pushing them all the way like last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Actually crazy how far away the top two are from the rest. Not even close.
Oi Oi Oi Oi Oi.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
And kinda crazy how close the rest are to each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Come on you boys in green :cool:
No idea how Ryan Jack didn’t concede a free kick for that nevermind a yellow or red. Madden refusing to card folk isn’t very fun
He got the ball for starters. Letting the game run has made for a much better game to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
AIK - Djurgården about to start. Djurgården in 1st postion, AIK 2nd. Gonna be an epic derby. 45k tickets sold.
What a weekend. 10 in a row.
I'm living in Stockholm now, when's the next match in town worth going to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trancemeister
Next derby is between Hammarby - AIK in three weeks. Djurgården play Hammarby in October.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Boly daydreaming with the third Everton goal.
The full back should be telling him. Boly can't see behind him.
The whistle is blown so the ball is dead before the goal goes in. The dive/tackle isn't a clear error so VAR can't really do anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
Definitely a bullshit thing to have happen, but you can't really legislate for it.
Worst defensive performance ive seen from him and wolves in a long time. No wins in four league games now. Not concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Pochettino ending his flounce with his two good players for this match is a bit annoying.
That’s horrific from all involved. Christ
What an awful goal.
Don't think I could trust my manager if he was a 47yr old wearing that much hair gel.
Xhaka is such a liability. Even G Nev has realised it, yet arsenal managers continue to pick him.
He is so shit.
We go live now to Phonics for the meltdown.
lol what a fucking idiot :D
You can only laugh.
Guendouzi just as bad with the hospital ball in his own third.
I'm looking forward to seeing this Arsenal sub that Redknapp keeps mentioning.... Seb Aloss.
The Arsenal top will never be beaten. Beautiful
That's a class goal.
Im sitting next to a really nice lady who is really talkative. Constantly touching my arm on some mysterious girl type of vibe.
From my view, that laca footwork was mental. No way he should have made it through the defence.
I love Lacazette. Didn't think much when he came in but he's such a player.
Guen had a scorching game. He was great. Laca is really good at close control jn the box with defenders touch tight to him. He always seems to get shots off.
River are playing boca and there is a player who is full Argentina named Kevin Mac Allister
Alexis according to LiveScore. There is a Kevin too but he's not playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Must have been left at home.
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:baz:
I expect better from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Why?
Fair question.
Perhaps I just have low standards.
What an absolute nutjob.
Christ.
Those Neville brothers don't have speak some shit. Gary Neville's on going criticism against Lukaku says it all, he's fizzled out for me since when he first started. I can't believe I actually enjoyed him at first but nowadays he just speaks so much rubbish it's unrelenting. I also think he believes he's a bigger part of United than he actually is. I'd take what he says with a pinch of salt. As for Phil Neville...he doubted himself and mixed things up against the USA which contributed to their defeat, what the mouth chats isn't necessarily what the mind is thinking. He'll never make it in the men's game.
I don't think it'll be long before someone calls Neville out for picking on black players and/or forriners. While that would be somewhat ludicrous, he needs to be less of a gutless fuck when it comes to chastising players he might run into on the golf course.
It's interesting that you mention that as I opted against including it in my post above as I thought I'd get jumped on for it but I have felt there's a little undertone of racism in his criticisms.
They're all at it, look at the criticism towards Lukaku, Sterling, Pogba, Ballotelli etc. Souness was having a go at Moise Kean yesterday for his attitude, hes started one game for Everton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smjffy
Surely some of the white boys get it also? I can't really think of any names but it cant be so one-sided.