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Mmm can't see him managing in Serie A.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
Hold on. Talk of salah being out of the world cup with a dislocated shoulder? I'm not very smart, but from what I can remember. Dislocated shoulders can be popped back in and you can continue perfectly fine in a few minutes. One of you man is a doctor I'm sure. (is it @ItalAussie?) please confirm a diagnostics.
I’ve never dislocated my shoulder, but I’ve dislocated my knee more times than I care to remember. Even in the event I’m lucky enough that it goes back in on its own, it’s atleast a couple of weeks before I can comfortably walk on it, never mind run around. It’s swollen, agony to move and stiff as fuck (OI OI) for the first 5 days or so. It’s bloody difficult to dislocate something without damaging ligaments or tendons in the process as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
your fucking sons deserve die of cancer, you motherfucker
You need a dictionary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Why a tram?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
Slightly deflated after that match last night. After the Salah ASSAULT the match was lost for Liverpool.
Real's experience and slyness out did us. Not to mention a worldie and a meltdown.
It was very sly of them to be a much better team.
Sergio Ramos the greatest ever captain.
Twitter and Facebook are outstanding reading. People calling Ramos scum and then saying someonenshould have broken his legs in the same breath. Never change, you entertaining crackpot bastards.
How many times was Ramos ‘fouled’ last night? Not sure how officials still fall for his thing. He is such a twat.
Anyway, disappointing. Firmino didn’t really turn up and we didn’t make the most of our good start. Would have liked to see Can on earlier for a bit of drive in midfield as Wijnaldum wasn’t really adding anything. Lallana is clearly a spent force, but hopefully a summer off will help him. Alexander-Arnold and Robertson were both superb.
I find it hard to put into words how ordinary Real Madrid are. This obviously sounds stupid after winning last night for the 4th time in 5 years, but others here have said similar. Liverpool defended pretty much perfectly last night, undone by a one-in-a-million strike and two pathetic errors. Only once we had to really chase the game towards the end did they begin to look dangerous.
Lol at the pitch invader at the end preventing Ronaldo from scoring and getting his shirt off. Small victories.
Amusing to see Liverpool fans as graceless and frothing at the gums with conspiracy theories as usual. The Ramos challenge on Salah was an accident.
My theory is that Klopp's style of management leads to teams not being able to mentally cope when they truly hit a big pressure moment, hence why his teams have bottled it so much in finals. They get so overwrought with The Occasion and Passion that when they come up against a team full of cynical pros they get turned over.
Real won because they handled the pressure and had a (much) better squad.
Obviously Ramos didn’t mean to dislocate Salah’s shoulder, but he definitely knew what he was doing. Ramos has shown time and time again that he has no problem potentially hurting somebody - remember him kicking Messi at the end of the 5-0?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
Apart from the Europa final against Sevilla -(although it was Sevilla after all) it’s always been defeats to mega clubs who are far better equipped than Klopp’s teams. I’m not worried about his record in finals. I don’t think anyone else would get us anywhere near as far as Klopp did.
That same debate was had where I was and I was also the lone voice of sense. Bale's goal was terrific, but that Zidane strike was just ridiculous. You can imagine some physical beast of limited ability fluking something like Bale's, but Zidane's was pure technique of a level very few players could even imagine producing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Klopp’s a bigger chancer than ‘Pep’.
Zidane is exactly the sort of manager Real Madrid need: a massive name that has the gravitas to keep the players in check, but also big enough (unlike, say, Mourinho) to rise above the basket case politics. They should keep him forever.
When I was in Spain in January he seemed to be right on the point of being fired, but the PSG win turned it all around.
He could just headbutt the boardroom into submission. There's a key difference to last night's sides: Salah went off and they had no real talisman to fall back on. Meanwhile, Madrid had Bale on the bench and Ronaldo was seething all night when nobody passed to him. It's a team that's been largely the same for three years, too. Liverpool are always looking to replace someone big (Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling, etc.) and they all seem a little disjointed. Although I think Lovren and Van Dijk look like a unit, the rest of the squad lacks cohesion.
It's a shame. What Liverpool were doing in the first half was a proper team job. Pressing together and really upsetting Real. Salah wasn't running the show.
Niko should have blogged his 'Binman in a Blazer' theory and founded a business school off it.
I'm going to see if the council have any jobs going. I want to be PSG coach within two years. Or at least Toon boss.
You've watched too much Die Hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Zidane will probably fail elsewhere other than another great team - maybe Juve or the National teams he'd be fine. When he has to replace some of those guys will be the test, can he actually build a team (or want to).
I should have known. Players miss games because of dead legs, thinking about it. Moat of them are made of glass.
I've never seen a moat made of glass.
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Well last night was disappointing. It was going alright until Salah went off. They looked out of ideas after that really.
A few chickens came home to roost. Klopps trust in Karius backfired big time, but I am absolutely certain he'll still start him come August. He doesn't seem the type to hang his guys out to dry. That and Mignolet must have killed his dog or something.
Having the same player 3 times over in midfield only gets you so far as well. The selling to buy policy also came up. Madrid could bring one of the best players in the world on off the bench, whilst we got a couple of half fit guys who have barely played in 2018. And it was them or Dom Solanke.
That and it was one of those games where it all went wrong.
We could use a summer of big spending, but no selling. I can't wait for the Salah sale stories to start.
Salah’s going nowhere til he lifts the PL trophy in a red shirt. :joy:
That would be some statement if Cardiff could pull that off.
Lol. A dislocated shoulder is a serious injury. He's not just poncing about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
I was around a room full of Liverpool fans. I was being harsh on salah at the time. I blamed it all on fasting and his bones being weak because he isn't eating.
Hard to see with the glare off the tinfoil hats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I’m sure that challenge by Ramos had a direct impact on his decision to basically chuck the ball into his own net.
If you use slow motion you can just about see Ramos slipping Karius a bunch of notes in that challenge.
Watch his head. Back and to the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Total nonsense. Zidane had all the time and space he wanted with his goal. The quick thinking and agility of Bale's contributes to his being the better goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Despite last night, I'd much rather support a Liverpool managed by Klopp, than watch the boring shite Man Utd produce under Mourinho.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Bale’s goal was better based on the limited time he had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dquincy
It was funny when the Liverpool goalkeeper was crying around the field, I didn't see any Liverpool players with him. I must have missed it but i imagine Klopp consulted him on the field.
Last night really was glorious. I was pissed as a fart and couldn't stop laughing every time I watched the 1st and 3rd goals back.
Last night I felt Bale's was better but it had just happened. On reflection I give the edge to Zidane. The concentration waiting for it to drop, the placement and how he hit it was just perfect.
You can say the same about the goal from Bale. Zidane had to think long and hard about what he wanted to do. Bale had to think fast and quick which is why I give him the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
He only thing that gives Zidanes the edge for me is that a good goalkeeper would probably have saved Bales.
How is Zidane having time to weigh it up a mark against it? Especially when the ball was coming straight out of the sky, meaning all of the power and placement was from him.
Not sure how it's a seethe? For what it's worth I think Madrid win,even without two goals being thrown in the back of the net they were clearly the better team. We played ok for half hour with Salah but they always looked comfortable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
As for Ramos he obviously doesn't know he's going to injure him, but it's a cynical challenge and I think anyone can see that. Not even sure the ref gave a foul did he?
He won the ball clearly in the tackle. He just decided to put salah in a sneaky crippler crossface on the way down
Tbf Salah is just as much up for hooking arms as Ramos but nope Ramos is basically Anderson Silva or some other mental shit.
https://i.imgur.com/GCfzzZy.jpg
Lol
Karius is broken.
About five minutes in last night, Lovren went straight through the back of Ronaldo. It's a defender roughing up a forward.
Anyway, I'm sure it's just a Liverpool conspiracy.
Ramos is the first player ever to foul or injure someone by the looks of things today.