Following on from the New Years Resolution thread, I thought we should start a thread to chart our dieting progress.
I have rejoined the gym and done next weeks food shop. Not a crisp in sight. Let's do this.
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Following on from the New Years Resolution thread, I thought we should start a thread to chart our dieting progress.
I have rejoined the gym and done next weeks food shop. Not a crisp in sight. Let's do this.
Yeah, I'll be on the no carb thing again come Tuesday. It seemed to work quite well when I did it a few months ago. December's been a disaster though.
Why didn't you do it last week?
I should but I know well I won't.
I'll be attempting to lose as much as possible by April.
I don't want to look like a beached whale in LA.
Why can't Celtic fans diet?
Historical memory of the famine.
You think they'd be really good at it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Relax. America is a land of beached whales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I bought myself a spin bike for the flat and a set of scales.
I was 87.5kg early yesterday and by this morning I was 83.0 kg. I'm currently 83.9 kg.
The power of being hungry (and actually going to the gym more regularly). :cool:
What's that in English?
I used to love the spinning a few years ago. Of all the stuff we did that was the biggest rush.
for those of you that don't know; 'Spinning' is cycling for women and gay people.
It's fine, I can wear my gym tights and get in the mood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I'm in. I've been going to the gym frequently since September, as well as playing badminton and going for the odd run, I just need to sort my eating. I've definitely packed on about a stone over Christmas, as is tradition, so from here I'll just cut out sugar and that should be that.
A question for the experienced lifters: is it worth trying to put on muscle whilst on a calorie deficit?
I've been running and playing football regularly, and my girlfriend has been on slimming world for months so weight and fitness are pretty good, but I've not been to the gym since October half term and was going less and less before that. Work and having a bit of a life have really put pay to my training, and I've lost some of my definition.
I'm aiming to go to the gym on a Monday or Tuesday evening and maintain everythings else. I should cut down on the snacking a bit because even though I'm slim I have a chubby face, but I know I won't.
My problem is I lose about a stone/stone and a half, then I'm pretty happy with myself and then stop bothering. I think the coming 6 months is the best opportunity I'll have for the rest of my life to properly get into shape, so I'd appreciate it if you all keep calling me a useless fat cunt until I get there. #TeamTH
Not really. Just try to maintain what you have and lose fat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
I've only been doing weightlifting for about a month, so its not like its a big deal. How do people hold on to what they've got? Is there a certain amount of protein intake required? Do you have to just keep lifting at the same weight?
Basically. Lift your normal weights, eat enough protein. You will probably lose some muscle mass/strength as it goes on (if you're doing it for six months), but far, far less than you would just not eating and running yourself into the ground.
Okay, cool. I won't be doing it for 6 months. I'm thinking 2/3 months of fairly strict dieting/starvation should do it.
It's absolutely miserable trying to lift heavy/improve when tired/hungry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
A beginner would put muscle on whilst on a defecit, but as you've been going previously - probably not. It is possible to lose fat and gain muscle if you run at very, very close to maintenance levels but it's more likely that you'd just end up spinning your wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Best off just cutting and trying to maintain the muscle you have, although you will most likely lose some.
OR, fuck all that and get on the juice.
You don't want to cut calories too much. Muscle is calorie hungry so your body would rather bin that than the fat. Try to eat a couple of hundred calories less than you need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
There are some calorie calculators online that will tell you what you should be eating during cutting, but they wont be hugely accurate for obvious reasons.
Anyone here ever tried steroids? It seems like a stupid thing to do and the only people I know that have been on them are absolute tools (I know you weren't being serious).
I think I might try and get into a routine of: wake up > morning: weightlifting > afternoon/evening: uni work/piss about > late evening: cardio. In my mind, that should set me up to beat late night snacking and also make use of the energy I have for no reason in mornings.
A couple of hundred? Isn't it 3500 calories to lose a pound? So, 200 a day would mean a pound every two weeks. I don't have enough muscle to be bothered about keeping it. I could probably put it all back on in a month easy if I was eating properly. The quickest process seems to be rapidly lose fat and get it don.eQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
If you haven't gained much, then sure, lose the weight then start again. You'd have to bulk slowly too though or that fat would just go straight back on.
People generally cut/bulk slowly (a pound a week or so) because you just can't lose more fat than that that quickly. if you're losing 2 pounds a week, it's a pound of other stuff too (water, muscle, etc).
I really liked weightlifting when I tried it before but the great thing about then was I could go to the gym during the day when it was empty. Fuck going in the evenings now I work full time and waiting around for equipment.
Spinning is cycling without being a fucking nuisance to everyone around you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
if you don't call having an erection whilst sat in an all female workout class being a nuisance, sure.
Surely its different for proper fat lads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
.....
'Turn your day around' is a great phrase for stuff like this. When you feel like shit, just think what little thing you can do that day to make you feel better, and that sets the momentum back in the right direction.
Or fuck it and buy a kilo of peanuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
I've downloaded S-Health on my phone and watch.
Skinny by March then.
Am going to bin the chocolate, sweets and cake again, once I finished the last two chunks of this toblerone. I lost around 11 pounds in a month doing this previously (I stopped for Christmas purely because of toblerone//birthday cake) and have put on 4 lbs in that period, so hopefully a return to this will help.
@Giggles I use myfitnesspal to count calories and it helps me control my weight. Recommend it.
It's not doing a very good job. You need to put on about two stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Seriously though, I could never be arsed putting in every food into one of those apps, they just don't have the database of brands that would be required for accuracy. The Mrs uses that one to track all her workouts but she finds the same for foods and doesn't bother.
I'm going to use this to track my water and coffee intakes though. Half for something to do on the watch, and half because I reckon I drink around 8 litres of coffee a week and 0 water and I want to see if that's accurate.
I haven't found it too much of an issue as I just type in generic foods where can't find what I want. It's a pretty good ball mark indicator.
2 stone would make me 14 stone and way overweight.
How can you reckon you drink no water and need to track it? Surely that's just something you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Like I said, it's for something to do. I aim to drink more water than coffee a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
MyFitnessPal isn't that much of a pain once you get into the swing of things, but I still won't be using it. Ultimately its not that accurate, plus there are quite a few days where I'll end up eating more than I actually need because I'm below my goal.
Just been to the gym for the first time in over a year, my fitness levels have hit rock bottom but I'm surprised at how little strength I lost. My squat has lost about 50kg which I should be able to get back in a few months, my Bench has lost about 25kg which might take a bit longer to get back.
You'll quit before the end of the month.
Fuck off Tim.
Lost 25kg? Fucking hell, I don't think I could ever even lift 25kg :D
Surely your wife weighs at least four times that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I don't have a wife, nor would I bench press her if I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Foe's claws must weigh about 25kg.
Magic will end up deadlifting his at some point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I'm reliably informed by the mate I built up the gym with in 2013 that it was 72kg when I gave it up. That said I knew a lad could do over 150 so it's still pretty pitiful.
For anyone looking to get back into benching their non-existent wife, Bulk Powders have got a third off everything (and a free shaker when you spend fifteen quid).
One armed too, as he'll need the other hand to keep the roll of carpet from curling up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I managed to sleep 6 hours or so from midnight last night so my sleeping pattern should be sorted. Its important for me to have a proper routine when dieting so I can set in stone when to eat and when not. Gym was so much effort yesterday, then went for a run this morning. It may have only been 3 weeks, but I feel like I've got a lot less energy. The Jaffa Cakes from NYE are still in the cupboard, so I'm winning that battle. Papa John's have sent me an email saying they're doing 50% off pizzas at the moment, though, so that's another battle.
Got a busy January and February with stags, weddings, birthdays etc so definitely on the healthy eating wagon.
For the rest of this week it'll be:
Breakfast:
Porridge, Cinnamon, Honey, Apple
Lunch:
Burrito Bowl. Chicken with Cajun spices, chopped tomatoes, roasted red onions, peppers & mushrooms with a mix of Quinoa & Brown rice.
Dinner:
Tonight - Steak with sweet potato wedges & mushrooms, green beans & sweetcorn
Tomorrow - Spaghetti Meatballs
Friday - Chicken stir fry
As next week is a full week I'll throw in some egg muffins for alternate breakfasts & change up the flavoured chicken for lunches. Maybe throw in a couple of boiled eggs for snacks.
I find I can stick to this relatively well, certainly until a Thursday at least but with busy weekends, I'm hoping I can go the full 5 days and damage limitation on Sundays.
Got to get a beach bod in time for my cycling trip in April. 3 months. Fuck sake.
Not had a great start at resuming the diet. Two false starts so far, think its due to not being in a proper routine yet (3 proper days at work, haven't shopped properly, etc). Will try again tomorrow.
It's with deep sadness that I inform you all the Papa is on his way.
:D
I'm not going to be too hard on myself this week since it's back to work week. There's only so much misery you can endure.
Also someone in work brought in some millionaire's shortbreadthat was delicious so I had three bits of it (they were only small but still). It was so good. The caramel bit tasted like daim bars.
What's Papa? Do you have Papa Johns over there?
I had a McDonalds on Monday :(
I think I'll be doing a lot better come Monday though as my Mum and Sister are going on holiday for 10 days.
I've also ordered a load of pickling jars as I think making loads of vegetable pickles (sprouts and cauliflower will be first up) might be good.
I'm doing better than I have done in a long while on my high protein, low carb, low Gi diet. But not nailing it yet - sometimes having a small glass of smoothie after a meal, and eating dark chocolate as a compromise (low sugar if you get 75%+ cocoa bars, to be fair).
With sweet stuff like that I can probably consume 1,000 calories in two minutes and it not even dent my hunger. Stunning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Having come to terms with what I've done tonight, I will bounce back stronger than ever tomorrow.
You might as well eat spent matches once you get into that all-cocoa territory.
I prefer really dark chocolate most of the time. Just let it melt in your mouth one block at a time.
I'd rather eat 4 Yorkies in 50 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
I once made the mistake of consuming cocoa nibs.
It might have been dirt though.
Oh it's nowhere near as nice as other chocolate, though it seems to satisfy my sweet-craving and is better when you let it melt like Offy says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
As much as I'd like to switch to low/no carbs I don't think it's viable on a budget of pretty much nothing. Rice/pasta (brown/wholegrain), beans and meat is my staple lunch and dinner, and I'll keep bread around in some capacity as a quick snack but I won't be buying anymore marmite because I can go through a loaf a day easy when I'm on the good stuff. I feel like it's more important to stop eating sugar, anyway, which I've done. Then I've got protein powder which fills a hole and cures a sweet tooth if ever it pops up. I've just done quite a big shop on Amazon Pantry so won't be making any takeaway mistakes.
I need a lot more vegetables back into my dinner because I feel tired and gross ATM. No carb/low carb makes me a miserable bald which isn't fun.
Do you take a multivitamin? I've noticed my mood is worse whenever I run out, so they must do something.
I've last 2kg since monday. it'll be mostly water weight after all the boozing over Christmas but still pretty good going. I want to lose atleast another 10 really. 15 to be back to my ideal weight.
I haven't for 10 years. What sort of ingredients do you look for when shopping around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
I think I'll be aiming for similar. I definitely don't feel as fat and sluggish as just after Christmas, which is nice, but I have no way to weigh myself here. Might post some scales when I'm back in Jersey in a couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I tend to just search on Amazon by highest rating first and make sure its an A-Z multivitamin. I imagine they're all basically the same, so price does come into it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Thanks mate.
No problem. This is the one I use currently but as its "made in UK" I'm not sure if it'll be the best option down your end.
The wife is back on slimming world (she lost 2 stone in 4 months this time last year post-pregnancy) so I'm hopping on the bandwagon too.
The amount you can eat on it is unreal. Unlimited pasta, rice & noodles :drool:
Is it that zero calories noodles stuff or what?
I'm in a good rhythm at the moment. The amount of uni work I have to do is ridiculous, so exercise is very appealing at the moment as it means getting away from it for a bit. Got a trip back to Jersey next week for a week so I'll try not to drink, but a hiccup wouldn't exactly be unexpected since that's all anybody does.
That was the one I did before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
A woman in my work goes to it and swears by it. It does sound pretty good too.
I reckon weekly meetings and weigh-ins do have a huge effect. Imagine the shame of turning up having put on weight. Everybody just looking at you like you're a useless twat.
Yeah, I'm not going to meetings but the wife is.
It's not zero calorie noodles. You basically can eat unlimited amounts of meat, veg & carbs to fill you up but it needs to be a balanced meal of the 3.
You need to incorporate one thing from the healthy extra A column (Dairy) and healthy extra B column (Bread & Cereals) once a day.
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I'm also allowed between 15-20 syns a day and you're encouraged to use at least 75% of these. If you want to have dairy or bread & cereals more than once a day, you need to syn it. Additional milk is something like 2 syns, a Freddo bar is 4 syns etc etc. Theres an app which tells you how many syns things are.
Thats basically it. So far this week I've had
Breakfast - Egg, Bacon & mushroom omelette.
Skinny Latte (5 syns)
Lunch - Chicken Pasta with cajun seasoning, cream cheese (Healthy Extra A), courgettes, red onion & pepper
Snack - Crunchy Chilli Rice Crackers (4.5 syns)
Dinner - Chicken Curry with brown rice last night, Salmon, veg & noodles tonight.
Roughly 10 syns a day, so if I want I can eat whatever is another 5-10 syns. As I hadn't had one of the Healthy Extra B's yesterday, last night I had some toast & low low cheese spread (3 syns for an additional portion of cheese spread)
Outside of that, you can still eat as much meat, veg, fruit and pasta/rice/noodles as you need to fill you up. It's the sauces etc which carry the syns.
It's probably changed a bit but I remember there were loads of recipes for free sauces anyway. I've a book of them somewhere.
Yeah there is, we made a pretty tasty chilli sauce the other night for homemade chips.
It's decent and being able to eat loads as long as it's the right stuff keeps me going.
Also being able to eat like a monk but then smash 2 bags of McCoys a day (7 syns each) is the kind of diet for me.
I always used my B for olive oil ( I think they changed that then later on that you couldn't) because Frylight is the fucking devil. Syns were nearly always McCoys too :drool:
The diet listed above is probably more than what I eat normally... No wonder I'm wasting away.
Skip breakfast and add a couple of Red Bulls in there. Get on the Phonics diet. You can even chuck in a couple of pints for good measure.
I don't mind the Frylight, I'm sure you're not supposed to use half a bottle per meal like I do but fuck it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
That Frylight stuff needs about ten speays to stop stuff sticking to the pan.
You might as well piss in the frying pan as use it. The only thing was that when I made curries I made 6 portions, so one tablespoon did the onions for that much instead of the 6 it would take to make them separately. Microwaving the chopped onions for 3 minutes first helps too.
Yeah it's useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
You're probably using the same amount of calories and fat as olive oil all things told.
Nah, one tablespoon of oil is like 100 calories. 10-15 or so sprays gets me through the aromatics frying and meat sealing before you add liquid.
Nothing wrong with fat. I've had success with keto in the past, but drinking got in the way of that. I can't do it at the moment because its a bit expensive for a student. Its a good diet for people working full time that can't be arsed with exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
If I was going to follow it again I'd use the oil as my B anyway like my old book says. It worked then.
Or Syn a proper oil like rapeseed for curries.
Short of preparing for a bodybuilding competition, I don't see how your choice of oil will make a difference. It's like when my friend's fat twat sister had them all drinking almond milk, as if those ninety extra calories a glass were the difference between her knuckles being visible and not.
I'd only choose rapeseed (or sunflower) over olive as the latter burns at a high heat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I've got milk, almond milk and soya milk (both unsweetened) in the fridge. Generally use milk earlier in the day and soya milk later on. Almond milk gets wheeled out now and then, but its mostly there to use for curry pastes. Almond milk is the crappest alternative milk. I drink a lot of hot drinks during the day, so I do think it makes quite a big difference for me, especially since I have about 70/30 milk/water with coffee.
The hazelnut milk is nice in porridge, though I normally just make it with water and stir in yogurt once it's cooked.
Hazelnut milk is awesome in smoothies.
I mixed it up and had salmon with this beauty.
http://www.jamieoliver.com/news-and-...a-dhal-recipe/
:drool:
Fry light's been fine in my experience, but I've been used to it for years (probably going right back to my ocd and eating disorder days).
My girlfriend's been on slimming world for months, so I've been getting used to the recipes. They're pretty good, and it doesn't feel like diet food at all.
God you definitely need motivation not to just binge eat shit. Really struggling right now.
When I'm really tired I'm absolutely pathetic at resisting takeaways. The best way I can resist it is to just have a big plate of something healthy and drinking loads of water. One of the Oriental bastards got a Papa John's yesterday and it didn't make me jealous, though, so I reckon I've moved away from total fat shit mode.
Actually, my mate brought up kebabs on Sunday and I had to do the big plate thing at 3 in the afternoon to stop myself from ordering one. Better than a pizza, though, I reckon.
Been doing pretty alright since Saturday. Veg and mushroom risotto for dinner Saturday, a healthy(ish) roast on Sunday (loads of boiled veg, homemade onion gravy, homemade nut burgers and a few roast potatoes), aubergine, chickpea and tomato curry last night (with some awesome parathas) and tonight I just threw together my classic veg pasta sauce with some wholemeal pasta.
Chorizo and beef sausage goulash tomorrow though :drool:.
Spiced chicken with a cous cous batter last night lads.
LIFE CHANGING.
I prefer the double dipped smash but it's all good.
Pizza and then cookies for lunch today.
Derailed.
:(
Smash pizza this weekend :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
They're lovely. Can make a good pasty out of that base too.
One thing I don't get about Slimming World is that pasta is free but bread isn't. Aren't they very similar?
Bread is a different type of carbohydrate which isn't as energy dense meaning it doesn't fill you up as much.
Not many breads aren't made with butter or oil in them either.
You can have two slices of whole meal bread per day as your Healthy Extra though.
Surely you want less energy dense stuff since energy = calories? You want stuff that has a large volume to fill up your stomach but doesn't have much calories.
Also, they're both wheat based so I don't see how they can be particularly 'different carbohydrates'. That's sounds a bit pseudo-sciencey.
Most normal bread is made without butter.
Bread is shite. Be more middle class.
I'm getting it from an artisan bakery.
The normal path I run on is about 6km (3km there, 3km back). Its a hilly woodland path and is of course rather muddy at the moment so more difficult than normal. Anyway, during the first half it was the usual stop-start effort, but on the way back apart from about 200m at the start I didn't stop once. I remember about 1km in thinking this is the longest I've run in a while and I managed to carry it all the way back. Could have gone on for longer, too. The last 3-4 days I've had so much energy when in the gym/running. I reckon its the giving up sugar.
What a day. That coupled with handing in an essay without having to pull an all nighter and the Jaffa Cakes are still there from NYE.
And 2manydjs announced for the 11th Feb in Brighton when my mate is over. Fucking perfect. :drool:
Just remembered Wiley's new album is out too. Early contender for Day Of The Year.
Fuck up and eat rice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
And as much as he likes :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
Had my first minor slip-up today. Forgot I'd agreed to go for lunch with a girl I work with before my decision to dedicate my life to wholesome eating, and ended up having a falafel burger (not too bad) with sweet potato fries (hm). Within an a couple of hours I felt so groggy and dehydrated and generally shitty. It has definitely made me even more committed to eating fresh, healthy food.
Yeah, I think I'll struggle if I have to eat out. Luckily I can't afford much of a varied diet.
:harold: What a tart.Quote:
Originally Posted by igor_balis
Fuck you ass hole
I was going to go with about 7,000. Good effort.
You drink a litre and a bit of whiskey a week?
Gonna try intermittent fasting in order to try and build muscle whilst losing fat. 3 day cycle like:
Day 1 - Weightlifting first thing, 2,500cal-3,000cal over course of the day, 250g-300g of protein
Day 2 - Pack in a lot of protein early on before cardio quite late at night, 1500cal over whole day, 200g-250g protein
Day 3 - Hold off on eating for as long as possible then cardio in the afternoon, 1000cal throughout day, 150g peotein
Jesus. That's some fairly serious consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsrevolution
It's not really that much is it?
Half bottle is 5 good house measures. I go through about a bottle a week, 2-3 bottles of wine split with the wife and about 8 beers. More if I'm out.
Christ, I'm glad I don't like the stuff if that's the rate people drink it at.
I'm talking about a blend or bourbon or whatever with mixer.
I don't go through straight whisky like that.
I was drinking about 10 cans of beer over Friday, Saturday and Sunday and thought that was too much.
You tried the doner meat @Adamski?
My Protein have 30% off of their 30 most popular products for today only. 5kg of whey for £40.
Think so a while back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Half a stone off in a fortnight #booya
Really started my diet hard this week.
Currently munching down some fat free yoghurt with chopped up berries and honey toasted oats.
Week in Jersey wasn't good for this. In all week writing an essay with food everywhere plus two nights out. Still gaining muscle, though. Started PPL this week.
What the fuckQuote:
Originally Posted by leedsrevolution
Also I'm dieting.
My desire to put on muscle seems to be outweighing the desire to lose fat at the moment, so I'm eating near enough the right amount of calories to sustain my weight. As well as doing weights first thing, I'll start doing cardio in the evening to shave off 500 calories a day. That should maintain a steady loss of fat along with the ridiculous amount of protein I'm eating. Even though I'm putting on muscle quickly, I know in the back of my mind its for nothing if I still have a belly.
Whisky does go down a fucking treat when you don't bother about how much you drink. I won't drink a litre, but if I crack open a bottle with a mate before going out think we'll do 2 or 3 glasses, the bottle is pretty much always finished up (that does sort of fuck the evening though if you go on drinking after that).
I'm also sort of on this train. Not really, as my strategy is to make sure I train 4-5 times a week at least and not bother too much about what I eat (because that never works out in the long run for me). But as a consequence, I do eat a bit healthier really. Just doesn't feel right to stuff down a massive burger for lunch after toiling at the gym for an hour. Except maybe on fridays.
Since I'm hitting the weights a bit I dunno if I'm really supposed to lose much weight. I'd be happy to have lost 5 kilos come summer. So far I'd say I've gone down maybe 2 since november. Lost a little bit of the girth, like 2-3 cm maybe, as well. Though I don't look much different, I definitely feel a lot fitter. Been quite consistent with the gym about 2-3 times a week and about 2 sessions of cardio every week. The occasional jog as well.
Just wanna keep this up really, that's always the hard part.
I do eat healthily all the time, but its surprising how quickly the calories add up, especially when aiming for a protein goal. At the moment I'm aiming for around 300g of protein, maybe more to err on the safe side. I can probably cut calories from that. This PPL routine suggests 1 rest day per week, but I figure since I'm in London next weekend for a couple of nights I'll just use this week's rest day and double up next weekend. The weekend after my mate is here for 3 days, so that's another 2 minimum. I could go to the gym, but I'd feel like a bit of a dick just sacking him off for a couple of hours.
Somehow I'm 3kg (6.6 pounds) down from yesterday morning.
26lbs since Jan 1st.
Big dump, Mahow?
Not that I'm aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I'm down as of this morning to 176.6 from 181.8 at New Yeaars. I was 215 at my peak when I graduated. I'm going on Spring Break on March 10, and hopefully will be able to get down to 165-167~ by then and finally be aesthetic.
To those who have experience lifting weights: how long do you reckon I can carry on with a 2 day routine of back/biceps/forearms then chest/shoulders/triceps? The last four days I've done this and recovered fine and still making gains lifting. I'll be doing cardio in the evenings, maybe pop a legs workout in once a week if I'm feeling sore. I suppose just judge it off whether I feel up to it on the day.
Nice to see people taking forearms seriously. What do you do for your ears?
Listen to big tunes all day.
Aren't forearms worked out by hammer curls? Obviously I don't isolate for them.
Most things will end up hitting your forearms indirectly though grip/stabilisation.
Fair enough. I know you end up working most muscles in some form every day, but thought hammer curls were aimed at forearms and biceps.
Anyway, I assume you agree with the 'just judge it on the day' sentiment.
I actually looked in the mirror today and didn't think 'fat cunt' but that I'm starting to look pretty trim. The belly is pretty much exactly as it was, but slightly dwarfed by my bulging shoulders. I'm just gonna carry on like this and then spend a month or two cutting if I have to around May/June.
Forearms :D.
In response to the question, it would be fucking difficult to avoid working some of the same muscles groups every day. I'd do a max of 5 days a week, but only with a well planned routine. Otherwise you'll just pull a muscle and be able to do fuck all.
Yeah, just play it by ear for now. People get too rigid with it too early on and lose interest.
Well, I've done 7 days in a row so far, but even today having not slept much and being hungover things went great. I'll keep eating 300g-350g of protein and just wait until things slow down. Cheers.
You don't need that much, if you were still looking for calories to ditch. You could probably get away with half.
I'm not too bothered about calories at the moment. Too little and I don't get anything done. I might reduce the shakes for now then and see how much of a difference it makes. I tend to just eat more protein if I'm still feeling sore.
That's one advantage of being a heft, I can still function if I don't eat anything. The concept of food as fuel is completely lost on me.
A heft? You mean just being overweight? I can function without eating, but its just not great for mentalperformance.
Ordering two 15" pizzas yesterday (it was buy one, get one free) felt very dirty at the time, but I was right to listen to my body. Felt pretty good afterwards and had a (broken) sleep of around 10 hours plus had loads of energy in the gym this morning. Still a bit ill but much improved.
Spaghetti meatballs for lunch today. Back on the wagon as I lost my shit last week and put 5lbs on :D
I had a bad week as well.
Put back on 3 of the 4KG that I had lost.
I've been yoyoing since I came back from Australia just after new year, but I started again yesterday. We're moving the weekend though, so no doubt there'll be a takeaway or something while we're unpacking.
I want to get down to about 12 and a half stone, which feels fucking miles away right now. I'm currently 14 stone 10, but I reckon about 7 lbs of that isn't proper weight.
I had a pretty good week last week, all in all. My mate was over at the weekend and when I'm out and about drinking I don't eat at all. More of that next week and an 11 hour drum and bass rave so I'm expecting to lose a good amount that weekend. I haven't been weighing myself, but each week I'm seeing progress and feeling much better for it.
I literally forgot I had dinner about an hour after having it. :moop:
That's the fucking worst. No amount of realisation can undo that yearn in your heart.
:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I'd gotten down to 13 stone 4 pounds a few days ago, back up to 13 stone 6 but I'm not fussed as the lower amount was after eating basically nothing for a couple of days, and I'm still more than half a stone down from January. Aiming for around...11.5-12ish i guess, but I'm thinking more about long-term lifestyle, with the RAW FIGURES just extra motivation. I'm too oblivious to notice my body shape actually changing, so it does help.
Also I was in the pub that I used to be in almost every night for the first time in ages this weekend, and two blokes who work there asked if I'd lost weight. Yeah, I have, thanks for noticing :wub:
I'm also acutely aware that my ongoing weight loss is gonna make the hugeness of my head even more obvious, and I might have to re-learn how to walk around without tipping over, like my dad did after his stroke.
Upload a pic of your head.
Get on the weights. We can hold a TTH strongest man event at the end of the year.
Are you ginger?
He has a magnificent ginger beard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Had some NAUGHTY days recently, but because what counts as a bad day now is basically standard procedure before I started being a good boy, I'm still losing weight with a bit of indulgence, just slower.
Best example being booze - I went out and had about 6 pints on Wednesday, and the same on Friday, whereas in November I'd have put away about 3 times that in a week, and I had gotten into a totally mindless habit of eating a completely superfluous meal at 11pmish, and I'm still not sure what I was up to. Probably boredom.
Superfluous - top vocab-ing beardy.
I've managed to turn a probable hungover takeaway day into a gym day. Not sure which is worse for me since I'm still ill, but we'll see.
From 14 stone at the end of January to 12 stone and 12 and a half pounds today, smashing it. Vegetables :cool:
I'm starting to stall with weightlifting, but that'll be because I can't afford to eat. Should be good for fat loss, though, so bring it on. I can bulk once I have money.
Anybody tried intermittent fasting before? I'm giving it a whirl now. Since Monday I've gone for a run then held off eating until about 5. I was hoping I'd be able to start eating and then have plenty of energy to go to the gym and do weights, but that wasn't the case yesterday, though I did go to the gym after only porridge/peanut butter/protein scoop at about half 6. Tonight I'll try eating a couple of meals beforehand and going about half 8/9.
Multi used to swear by it, but I think it takes a while to get your body into it.
What he did was eat one massive meal (as big as you can muster basically) each day if I remember right? Hunter-way of eating or some such.
I think the idea being that you get your body used to not getting food all the time and taking from the reserves more (fat) the rest of the time. And also that however hungry you are, you might struggle to eat 2000+ calories in one meal every single day (you'd need to eat ice cream all the time basically), and hence you naturally eat less.
Though on fasting, a medstudent friend I have keep telling me how healthy it is as a concept to just fast for a day now and then. Not necessarily to lose weight, but it does something or another to the cells or your metabolism or your little toe or whatever, and it's all supposed to cure your future cancer and make you happy again.
Multi was stacked, so that's promising.
In the past when I've tried to lose weight through starving myself I've been able to go a day without eating. I don't want to go overboard, though, since I'd become miserable and not get any reading done.
I think a day is about what you should do anyway. Not eating for 2 or more days is probably not that healthy for you, and I think the idea is sort of to keep the body on it's toes so to speak, i.e. not necessarily get used to "i'll get a good intake of energy in about 4 hours anyway so that belly fat he has can be saved for later".
Whereas if you go overboard the body will just reduce it's metabolism instead to try to preserve energy and you won't be burning as much fat as you could be doing.
Whatever works for you though. Personally I'm trying to make some slight adjustments to my general lifestyle that I feel I can live with even after I reach a good level of healthyness. Or I'm more looking at it like, I don't want to give up alcohol and some unhealthy foods entirely for instance, but I can eat better during weekdays and probably reduce the old casual tuesday night relax-in-sofa-beer, etc. I can train about 4-5 times during the weeks, but rarely get the chance to do it during weekends. And I go abroad maybe 3-4 weeks a year on vacations where I'll usually stuff myself a bit, + x-mas etc.
Then whatever weight that ends up taking me to, that's what I will have to live with. I've gone on "time to lose weight!"-sprees before and while it always works, I always end up bouncing back up after a vacation or some such. But I feel like I've found a good formula for how to have a fairly sustainable way now. Have lost about 5-6kg since about November and it's taken me quite close to where I think I want to be.
My mother in law does it and she lost loads of weight. It seems to have worked amazingly well for her and she has been able to keep it going. I can't imagine anyone actually would want to do that for a lengthy piece of time.
The weird thing about Fasting is that it's basically shocking the body once a week or something like that. Since that's sort of the point of it, it can't really get much easier (other than you're maybe more mentally prepared to be hungry a whole day after a while).
But I guess it's like some people prefer a good, slow 2-hour-jog whereas some people just want to get it over with and do Crossfit for 20 minutes or something.
Yeah, I'm considering giving up alcohol completely. I really don't enjoy it enough to put up with the cost and hangovers, but I love eating and get loads of energy from that, though when you're at a bar/club they aren't exactly serving sandwiches. Whilst I'm skint at uni I'm gonna push myself to lose as much fat as possible, then when I have money can bulk like mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
It feels quite comfortable at the moment. By the time I've woken up, gotten ready, gone for a run, had a little lie in the sun (obvs won't happen every day), shower its about 3-4 hours into the day and then I'll start drinking black tea which keeps me going for about 2-3 hours. Yesterday I felt sick when I first ate at about half 5, so I reckon I could have gone on for much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
I definitely prefer sprinting and walking as opposed to a constant slow jog. Running on off-path bike tracks keeps you on your toes the whole time you're running, as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Another question: how important is leg day? I'm running/cross trainer every day and my legs are already more muscular than necessary, so as long as I'm getting deadlifts and squats in that should be sound, shouldn't it?
Make sure you take care to do calves and hamstrings I'd say. I've had the problem for years that I'm "front-heavy" i.e. stronger in my chest than in my back and stronger on the front of my things than in my hamstrings, etc. That shit ends up giving you all kinds of problems later on.
My things are also very muscular, and almost improportionate to my upper body, but it's important to do your legs just as much (after all it's half your body if not more, and also the easiest way of increasing your metabolism).
What I do is I do as much legs as anything else, but I keep it light on the weights most of the time, so instead of doing like 3x10 heavy squats I might do like 200 normal squats without any weights instead - whereas I have heavier weights when training upper body (and doing deadlifts, because to me that's more Core and Back than legs, but it depends a bit on how you do them as well).
I'm attempting a 24 hour fast today. I'm exhausted. I'm at the 16 hour mark now, which I've done the past two days and been fine at this stage, but today its really taken it out of me. Going for a run this morning probably didn't help as I woke up aching. Still, I'll push on in the hope that it'll make 16 hour fasting easier in the long run.
Are you sure it's okay to have that little in three days? That's more extreme than the 5-2 diet for example.
I wouldn't lose weight on the 5:2 diet. Depends what you mean by okay. I don't feel great, but I'm alright. I'm assuming my body will adapt and I'll be able to sustain this diet, but otherwise I'll pack it in. In saying that, 7 hours is a long way away.
It must be even more difficult if your sleep pattern is fucked. I'm a 10.30 bedder so I reckon by this time I could power through.
Been sleeping 1am-8am this past week. My sleeping is normally alright when I'm not staying up late on weekends.
I've not slept more than a couple of hours at my parents'. Proper dusty shoebox room. Plus there's nowt in the freezer beyond ready meals. I can't live like that any more.
So, I failed. Ended up having a protein shake, a piece of toast with peanut butter on and then a bowl of rice/beans/tuna before falling asleep at 8pm. I then woke up about 3:30am, started reading, had a bowl of porridge with peanut butter and whey protein just after 5am but then fell asleep at around 7am and woke up at 10am. I'm going to eat normally today because I look and feel exhausted. I'm only playing badminton doubles this evening which isn't taxing at all so should be feeling good to get back into it tomorrow.
A 24 hour fast is probably much easier when you haven't already been dieting quite extremely in the days beforehand.
I've had to completely change my diet, exercise regime, smoking and drinking habits on doctors orders these past two weeks. Salads, fresh meat, no added salt, and limiting myself to like four pints a week max. I've dropped a stone since then, along with doing weights/squats.
Going from processed chicken, chips, pizzas etc overnight was a proper shock to the system, my body hadn't a fucking clue what was going on. Replaced my litre of Coke/Oasis a day with two litres of ice water with fresh orange as my other drink, too. Feeling fucking amazing now, however. Was fifteen stone, now fourteen.
Why did you doctor order that?
Have you laid off the weed too?
Didn't DS get the diabetes?
Surely any doctor would order that given what he was eating!Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Twice I've had blood pressure issues. Not diabetes, but I had the issue first when younger when my diet was fine, had a full body scan and they couldn't find an issue, went a couple of weeks back and its high again, so he told me to change my lifestyle. If I continued the way I did, I'd probably have a stroke by mid 40s.
Not had weed for five weeks.
It's been a battle at times, but finally down to 15 stone (was 16 early November) Plenty of ups and downs in that time, but mostly was stuck at 15'3 until today apparently (despite letting stress dictate my eating habits and eating some terrible stuff this week. Oh well. The journey to 14 begins.
Nice work. How tall are you?
6"3.
I'm stuck around 15 stone 4 just now. Yoyoying for a month. Aiming to hit 14 and a half by holiday end of next month then 13 and a half by Barcelona in July.
6"2.
I'm tempted to weigh myself but I'd have to use the scales at the gym which you need to pay for and I'm not that bothered. Could do more harm than good.
I don't think intermittent fasting is for me. I can spread the same amount of calories out over the course of the day and be much happier. Also, I think I'm going to cram all of my exercise in at around 7pm/8pm. This past week I've had no energy to concentrate on uni work.
Maybe it would have worked if I'd given it more time, but I'm not in a position to fuck around at the moment.
I had moderate success with the 5:2 diet. Easy to suffer for a day when you know the next day will be alright. Might give it another crack, actually.
I might try the odd day of not eating if I'm just going to stay in and watch football all day, but I'm only getting about 1,500 calories in a day with weights and going for a run. Reg was right. It probably was a bit much.
I'm going to go down the starvation/keto route for a bit. I'll basically live off protein shakes and, when affordable, meat. Keto is pretty easy once you get into the swing of things, which I think I may have done already after barely eating at the weekend.
Sounds horrific.
I'm starting an 8 week learn to lift bootcamp when I come back from Marbella in 2 weeks which will take me right up to my Girona/Barca holiday in July.
Did a tester class for it last night and I'm in absolute bits today.
Aye, it probably will be horrific, but it'll be worth it in the long run. Last time I did keto, though, I stopped feeling any desire to really eat and had a steady stream of energy throughout the day while losing weight quickly. You just have to get through the first few days/week. Combining it with exercise will be the tricky bit.
Started to plateau a BIT. Not too fussed though cus I was losing weight very quickly - got down from 14 st to 12 st 10ish, pretty consistently at 2-3 pounds a week. Now it is more 2 lbs one week, gain 1lb the next, lose 1 the next week etc etc. Hovering around 12st 6lb for the last few.
By the BMI thing I'm now only 6 pounds from not being "overweight", but that doesn't take into account my huge head, fairly broad frame and having a fairly muscular body for someone who doesn't pump iron, so I'm p content right now.
Had my first real "bad old days" relapse on Monday night - I've basically stopped doing any school-night drinking, and stopped eating shit food after boozing, but I had about 5 pints then got home and had a big slice of carrot cake, and stole two of my mum's chocolate bars....oooops.
I've completely given up now as it's far too late to do anything of impact for the wedding.
Crossed the 50lbs threshold of weight loss from my peak this morning (215 -> 164.6), took about 22 months. Only lost 4lbs in the last 6 weeks because I'm finally skinny / aesthetic enough for girls to like me again, so I've been going out and getting laid. Will probably keep cutting down till 155 just so I can be 'lean' and then clean bulk from there. I'm firmly of the conviction that the only way you can make real meaningful long-term progress on body composition is if you socially isolate yourself for periods of 2-3 months at a time.
Yeah, you can go out and not pile on calories but it's nowhere near as fun. Better to just sacrifice your life for a bit.
Anyway, gym was a lot of effort but not as bad as expecting. I reckon I'll still be able to make progress on main lifts but the accessory work will be hell.
Fifteen stone at BELOW AVERAGE HEIGHT must have taken some boozing.
I'm starting to feel the full force of keto now. Last week I was mostly eating at maintenance level (averaging just under) but the last four days I've gone from 2,300 calories to 1,700, 1,200, 1,000 and today I haven't eaten yet but I'll try not to go over 1,000. The improvement has come as I've started running again (after 8 days not doing anything except one badminton session) so that's about 600-700 calories per day too. I haven't felt hungry and its been quite a productive day, so all good here. If I can keep this up I might just be skinny for graduation.
:nono: This makes me sad. You anywhere near Wycombe Offshore?
Why? And no, not really.
A diet where you restrict carbohydrates
And your breath smells like unwashed feet.
High fat, moderate protein, low carb.Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsrevolution
You're basically carb counting. I keep it under 20g. For meals I just fry up meats with some other little bits. You get to eat delicious food, but just small amounts. Say 500 calories worth of fried pork belly, spinach, an egg and some red Thai paste. That'd be about 3g carbs all-in-all and my main meal. For breakfast I'd have bacon/salmon and eggs, then for snacks a bit of tuna mayo or a protein shake.
It can do for some people. I can't tell if mine is a problem (doesn't seem it) and I'm not gonna ask anybody. As long as you drink enough water I'm sure its fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I had a diet about 10 years ago where I basically just ate meat cooked in a George Foreman grill for about 2 months. I lost about 2 stone.
Google is your friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsrevolution
https://www.ruled.me/guide-keto-diet/
Or enemy in this case.
Do you still want me to knock something up with you tomorrow? Ever thought of getting a blood test to check your testosterone levels leedsrevolution? You should and im not being a dick. Your face gave it away then the weight gain, low moods and what not. Look up Low Testosterone and see if any applies.
Offshore Toon - stop this shit matey.
:D Fuck me.
Just trying to help the guy.
Was being genuine
Keto is great for losing weight quickly and I won't have to worry about a social life till June so I'm running with it. Once I've shed the fat I'll get in the gym and start a slow bulk.
Youre damaged in the head Offshore Toon and I dont like it. Youre a good kid the way you are and its sad that your weight issues has forced you to take such shitty steps.
The problem I have with it and I can almost detect it in your post is youll see the quick results but not the damage and that the quick results are good ones.
They arent.
Your choices are your own but I wish it was different for you. Getting fucked on whizz is good for weight loss but you dont jump to that.
What is the damage?
Of a ketogenic diet or the your confidence issues due to weight. Why care what people think of you, your fantastic the way you are. Is it because all the uni kids are health kicking it and you feel bigger than them or something?
Serious question not being a dick
That scares me. Kids will see your weight loss, ask you how and you tell them and then thats how these trends kick start
Should have said 'rectal tearing'.
Kids aren't really his problem. If it works for him then that's all he needs to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by summsuccess
Maybe if he lived with Africans and not Chinese.
Know yoiur neighbour Spike
Thats a selfish way to look at things. Kids will be the ones wiping your old ass in years to come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
You have to look after the kids or the future is as bleak as an evening in your company from the sounds of it.
TV on, tv off.
Send you an email earlier. Sorry if pretending to be you caused you distress.
I've always been active, but I eat too much. I'd be lying if I said I was equally as confident when overweight and when at a healthy weight, but there isn't enough of a difference that its an issue. I've been exercising pretty much every day (sometimes twice a day) whilst at uni and its clearly diet (surplus in calories) that makes the difference. I'm 26, nearly 27, and I want to get to a physical state that I can take pride in. Why? Because why not, and I don't have much longer left where I could realistically claim I'm in my prime so I plan on making the most of the rest of my 20s. Its not that life ends at 30, but around that point you have to start thinking about growing up.
Theres no such thing as eating too much espeshially if your always active too. It would be more a case of eating more of the right stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
I sense the confidence thing and I imagine its increased tenfold due to younger kids running around campus? Your reason of why not is as good as any but dont be fooled into thinking your prime ends at 30. We have a chap called Terry who comes in and when he started working out he would have been mid 30s, hes been coming since we started and if you saw him now you would think he was in his prime.
I wonder if we could talk away from the forum one day? If not its cool but I do think you could do with some proper guidance.
I'll take the consequences then rather than worry about other people's kids now. Hopefully I'll still have a TV when I'm sitting in my adult nappy at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by summsuccess
I've no active email attached to here. Or if it's still live I don't know, or want to know, the password.
Plateaued around 12st 5lb for the last month or so, but I've been eating well 75% of the time but eating loads of shit every weekend and drinking more than I should in the week. After years of extremely good/extremely bad dieting and vast weight change, it is quite nice to have a pretty good idea of what I can get away with week to week and not turn into a fat bastard.
The ideal is to get down to just below 12 stone then just fucking stay there.
Thats sad to hear. Other peoples kids or not some of them just dont get a good start and need some guidance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
As for email neither you or Smiffy accept PMs but I want you both to know Ive stopped now.
I do have to ask though, if you didnt have your TV now do you just read a book or moan about the weather whilst sat in your nappy?
There is such a thing as eating too much when you want to lose fat. I know what "the right stuff" is too, but I can't afford a lavish diet so I'm sticking to something basic. If I've got plenty of food in the house, I've got plenty of food inside of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by summsuccess
I don't know why you'd think 18 year olds would reduce my confidence. They're all terrified of everything and have no idea what's going on.
Yeah, I'm only half-serious about the 'in my prime' thing. I don't plan on giving up at 30, but like it or not its a milestone for everybody and seen as a good time to start thinking about a career and a family.
If the conversation is going to be you trying to instil confidence in me and telling me to eat more then I'd rather not. I know what I'm doing and I know it'll work.
No nappy yet. If I get to that stage then I'd probably just end it if I could. Definitely preferable to a book.Quote:
Originally Posted by summsuccess
I was only trying to help matey but if you know what your doing then OK. It will work but it could work better is all I was getting at.
At least your active which is more than can be said for most
We should encourage euthanasia in this country tbh. Starting with that local freaks thread down the page and the benefit scroungersQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Thats good to hear. I was only offering help so ill shut up now :)
Preach. What a time it was though :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by leedsrevolution
Unless you're constantly buzzing, do you not end up eating shitloads when coming down/recovering?
Pills?
Fair enough. At least you moved past it. Does it not make you think you should maybe knock booze on the head too if you've had addictions in the past?
Not when I was younger no. 20-24 eating was very much just fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Yeah, true. You're on the right path and seems like you've got things under control. Everybody needs a little escape now and then.
I'm considering knocking everything on the head even though it doesn't happen often. It messes with my sleeping routine far too much and takes a week to two weeks to sort itself.
That would kill me. I still have the odd blowout but nowhere near as much and I'm back to normal by the Tuesday.
Is everyone former druggies on here or something?
But Mr Garrison said they are bad mmkay?
Yeah, I've realised recently that pills/mandy/coke are all pointless for me and they're the ones that effect my sleep the most too. Pills/mandy just don't do what they used to and the comedowns are worse, so I've avoided them for a while. Coke is expensive and rarely worth it. I'm still a fan of psychedelics and ket, though. I want to try MXE this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
I still dabble. Better than alcohol tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by summsuccess
You have one body. Use it or abuse it.
I prefer to use it because I dont want to lose it.
Surprised you have weight issues taking all that though, do you binge eat Offshore?
Taking drugs once a month isn't going to keep you skinny.
None of my shirts fit me anymore. #success
What kind of student (other than Asians) wears a shirt anyway?
Going out tonight for a few drinks and its Eurovision so I've got to make some effort.
I'm at a good stage. There are clothes that I was aiming to fit in that I now fit in, as well as most of my wardrobe being too big for me now. When I weighed myself a couple of weeks ago at my mate's I was 16 stone (102kg), but also full of food and drink. I then decided I'd lose half a stone in the two weeks before I'd be going back at my mate's and able to weigh myself again, and I reckon I've achieved that, or I'm well on my way to achieving that. I've been doing around 2,000 to 2,500 calories worth of exercise for the past week, plus still dropping weight before that too. I'm going to take things easier now since my body is battered.
From here (15.5 stone/98.5kg) I reckon there's still a stone to lose. I won't be drinking much at Glastonbury, so should lose a few pounds there, and then I can hammer the exercise again until I find work. I've got a festival in Belgium mid-July too which will also aid weight loss. I don't want to get too far ahead of myself, but I imagine by September I'll be in a position to start a bulk.
What exercise are you doing? I thought you'd packed in the running.
Well, when my calf was injured I got back into weightlifting. Then a couple of weeks ago I eased myself back into cardio with the cross trainer at the gym, then started walking. I haven't pushed myself with running, but I've been fine so far just running in spurts and mostly walking. Glastonbury is on Tuesday so the last thing I want is another injury, plus its probably better to practice being on my feet for 3/4 hours.
Also, I said earlier in this thread that weightlifting on keto is horrible, but since I started again a few weeks ago its been piss easy. I won't keep it up once I've dropped to a healthy body fat percentage, but I would definitely recommend keto for weight loss.
I'm not sure what weight I was. It was definitely over 17 stone at some stage in the past year. I reckon pushing on 18 somewhere along the line.
I'm on track and under 15 stone. I think there's probably still a stone to go, but I seem to think that at every weight I'm at. I've never been under 14.5-15 stone (can't remember, but think it was 14.5) in adult life, so it's hard to predict. The current goal is 14.5 stone by next Wednesday, then I'll be at a festival in Belgium so should lose some more before stuffing my face around graduation.
Think I ended up putting on some weight since my last post (after losing a bit), but I'm back in Brighton and going to at least half a stone in two weeks.
Nice. How much left to go?
I'm at 18lbs down since the start of May. Just enlisted a PT to start ramping up the training. First session was today.
This thread appears to have been a roaring success then. My mum commented that "this is the skinniest I've seen you" last week. I don't think she's correct on that, but its certainly the slimmest I've been since about 21.
I weighed myself this morning and I'm the heaviest I've ever been. Not surprised. I've been eating shite recently and I could feel it in my clothes.
Gonna start following the slimming world diet seriously as people in my work rave about it and it seems to work for them. Not joining it though, fuck that.
I suppose not eating for two days a week means you eat less during the five days? I'm getting back into keto and very, very long runs/walks plus a bit of the gym when I have the energy. Ultimately I know I can drop a pound a day if I push myself. Once you accept you're going to spend 2-4 hours walking about and just let the mind wander its pretty enjoyable.
I've stayed roughly the same weight recently but have lost a bit of timber, I'm at the point where I can take my jeans off easily without undoing them first (A method more scientifically accurate than BMI)
Gave up on running because I hate it and it's a load of bollocks, but now doing two boot camps a week, 90 minutes squash, one hour badminton and one hour football. If I had a job that didn't involve me sitting on my arse drinking pop I'd be a golden god right now.
It's a piece of piss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
The SW diet? Yeah, it looks quite good and it seems to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I did a huge pile in a relatively short time before. The job has me fucked now so I can't do it any more but you get to eat shit loads on it.
Yeah, and carbs. :drool:
What do you mean the job has you fucked so you can't do it any more?
I'm on the road and have no will power when I see nice things in petrol stations. When I did it before we hadn't even a canteen in work so I cooked and brought it with me to reheat later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
How is that an issue, unless you have a Ginsters fetish?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
A what fetish? I've a fetish for nice things on hot counters when I smell it. And no will power, which I already stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Its not that you have no will power, just that you don't want it enough. You're getting married so its not surprising you gave up. I plan on doing the same.
I got married, but I gave up long before that. I just haven't the situation I can control when I'm working any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
+1 on the piece of piss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
As long as you don't rip the cunt with the carbs it's easy. I put everything into my fitness pal as well as a double check, if you're smashing 10 baked potatoes a day then you're fucked.
Quite good you get syns so if you feel like a bag of crisps then you can do with no fucks given.
I'd initially used the syns on junk but after a while I found it better to use my allowance a day on oil so I didn't have to use that frylight shite. Made it much easier for me.
Though if I was batch cooking curries then it was even better as two tablespoons of oil was under a days allowance but it would fry enough onions and spices for 8 curries.
Weighed myself this morning (same time as last week, first thing Monday morning). Scales say I'm down 6 lbs. That can't be right, can it?
Could just be water weight and less food being in you. I've eaten so shit this past week and a half, though I've been doing plenty of exercise. A low calorie diet feels impossible right now for some reason.
I've lost all motivation to eat well. Still exercising a lot so not packing weight on, but ultimately it's not ideal for getting rid of the last bit of fat. I've tried getting back into keto but ended up carb loading. I might go back to basics again and just cut out sugar for now.
8lbs down in the 4 weeks with a PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
0.5inch increase on arms
1inch down chest
2 inches down waist
Enjoying the training as well, probably going to keep using the guy till Christmas and see where I'm at.
I'm all over the place. I'm hoping the routine that comes with working will help to stabilise my diet.
Another 3lbs down takes me over the 2 stone barrier.
Half an inch off my waist as well.
Dominos last night to celebrate :cool:
Using this PT has really opened my eyes to weight loss.
I'm eating 1800 calories a day however I'm able to incorporate some treats like crisps and chocolate in to that and as long as I'm around 1800 calories the weight will still come off. Having two cheat meals a week as well.
It's quite eye opening when you learn that calories intake is the sole factor in weight loss and nothing else really matters.
You could eat 5 Krispy Kreme donuts per day and still lose weight as it's within the 1800. Obviously you'd feel like shit so moderation is the key but it's an interesting way to think about it.
This is pretty good:
http://qklnk.co/pPB4Sp
I'm a right state at the moment. I've basically eaten and drank the entire summer because my wife has been on school holidays. I feel like a fat mess. I'll be going at this hardcore after next weekend.
I've dropped 2 inches off the waist since I did this yeast shit (well a 2" size down, as opposed to a real 2"). Never weighed myself though.
After the first week's loss of 6lb, I was steadily going down a lb a week for about four weeks there. But I weighed myself yesterday and I'd stayed the same as last week. Annoying but I did eat some crap last week so not too bad.
I probably need to get some exercise but it's nearly all boring and/or the weather here is complete shit.
Yeah. It depends a bit on how you train, mind you. A lot of heavy weightlifting etc and you'll need to get some more Protein in, which in turn will be calories, if you aim to build muscle (or at least maintain it, lest you lose muscle mass as well as fat).Quote:
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But in general it's like you say.
1800 sounds little if you are also doing exercise. I try to work out about 5 times a week, maybe 6 sometimes, and I will probably average about 1800-2400 calories intake on a weekday (dispensing 400-600 on exercise), and easily 4000 on a saturday or sunday (alcohol is usually half of that).
I don't get some of the pictures in that link. How are the two salads the same size and ingredients so far apart?
I've averaged 1613, 1417, 1724 a day for the past few weeks.
My assumption was the dressing being different.
There was a book came out years ago called the Food Doctor Diet that did all those pictures like that.
There's a lot more to it than that dude.Quote:
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http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/...-myth#section1
http://www.flnutrition.co.uk/the-cal...r-weight-loss/
https://www.prevention.com/weight-lo...er-calorie?amp
Foods affect you in really different ways. It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting.
There's a good book called "The Metabolic Typing Diet" which I recommend.
This is what I fucking hate about nutrition. So much stuff coming from all sides. Ugh.
As someone who worked for a company that sold enzymes to farmers to inject into their chickens I can say that nutritional science is complete bollocks. The amount of money we paid to these people to sell our shit.
For weight loss it doesn't really matter. Calories are calories. Eat less calories than you expend and you lose weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
My PT is a qualified nutritionist.
Will obviously be different for adding lean muscle and increasing weight but I'm not at that stage yet.
Should also caveat this by saying that obviously a healthy diet staying within calories is important however it's good to know that you can have the odd treat here and there and not be tempted to think you've fucked your diet and its game over.
At an estimate I would say I'm eating 3 meals a day and 2 snacks, so 35 'meals a week' and it's healthy for 30 or so. I have 1-2 cheat meals a week and a bag of crisps/dark chocolate every other day which does the job for keeping me motivated to keep going.
Best advice I got was not reaching the 'fuck it' stage after you have a bad meal and continuing it for the next two days. Enjoy the cheat meal and get back on the wagon and go again.
Isn't 'nutritionist' the poundworld version of a 'dietitian'? I'm sure I've read that only the latter has a meaningful qualification. Anyway, he's not wrong. You need to get calories in check, but eating 'healthier' makes it a lot easier to eat less.
I'm feeling very motivated at the moment and I've given myself a four week target, which I'm four days into and all is going as planned. I should drop a stone minimum. Should things continue as planned I'll be able to start bulking come September 25th.
"The title "dietitian" is protected by law. This means you are not allowed to call yourself a dietitian unless you are properly qualified and registered with the HCPC.
...
The title of nutritionists is not protected by law, meaning that anyone can advertise their services as a nutritionist. So it is important to find a nutritionist who is appropriately qualified and registered by a trustworthy professional body."
Everything is good and everything is bad. It just depends on which mong you're reading on a particular week.
Pretty much, yeah. Just go with what you're feeling. Sometimes it's two 18" pizzas, sometimes it's an avocado.
Those 'articles' don't really dispute the basic premise. They just add stuff about hormones (not as important), subjective lifestyle bollocks, and advise against starving yourself (well in lads). Eat five-thousand calories of 'healthy foods that work well for you' and see what happens.
I've not said that calories have no part to play at all, so the last sentence is irrelevant. My point is that it's a flawed notion that calories are the one and only key to weight loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
You said 'There's a lot more to it', and that 'It's better to eat healthy foods that work well for you than worry about calorie counting'. However things 'work for you' in lifestyle terms you still have to take in less energy than you use, which necessitates calorie counting.
Again, I'm not saying calories don't matter at all.
They're the deciding factor though, which was my point.Quote:
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If I eat 1800 calories of donuts I'll still lose weight, as I've expended a lot more than that. I'll feel shit and it won't be good for me but I'll still lose it.
As Lewis infers, if I ate 3000 calories of lettuce I'd probably feel quite good, but I wouldn't lose any weight as I don't expend 3000 per day.
Balance is the key, but within certain calorie limits.
I don't think you'd feel very good if you ate 3000 calories a day of lettuce.
You'd be fucking suicidal for a start.
It was an example :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
It would actually be really hard to eat 3,000 calories of raw veg. You can eat a bag of spinach for like 25 calories. It's a good snack if you feel the urge to binge.
I know.Quote:
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Down 2lbs this week. :)
I just came out starving from the gym and ordered an Extra large Falafel "salad". It must have had about 1000 calories in it but I fucking plowed through it all :moop:
We go away at the end of the month so I'm back on the diet wagon. Probably left it too late to look presentable but fuck it.
I've ate cake every day. Not looking forward to weighing myself when I'm back.
Been eating those Muller Light yogurts since they're 'free'. They quite a good sweet treat. Got a peanut and caramel one tonight that I hadn't seen before and thought sounded nice. It's fucking rank. Ate it about two hours ago and I still have a horrible aftertaste from it.
Luckily I don't have a sweet tooth so I can stay off most cakes and stuff (there's an endless stream of cake and bakeries always being served in my office).
Anything a bit buttery is a weakness though, like croissants and other sort of pastries like that. And I do like some decent Ice cream, but eat it very rarely. Fatty foods is where it's all at, chips and burgers etc. But even that I'm cutting down on quite a bit these days.
If I didn't drink beer, I'd be fucking shredded I reckon.
1kg down in 3 days.
That's just over 2lbs for any non-wankers looking in.
Hit 35lbs down today at my last pre-holiday personal trainer class.
Flying out tomorrow so Dominos again to celebrate tonight.
Aiming to drop another 16lbs or so by Christmas and then start building it back up.
Finally got the ball rolling with this. I've been at it for about 3 weeks, but I had a friend visiting this weekend so ate and drank a lot. But I'm down about 7 lbs so far. I want to lose at least another stone, perhaps a bit more depending on how I look and feel.
I've done it, lads. First time since about 2014 that I am not "overweight" according to the admittedly shit BMI measurement. With the tool's inability to take into account my Tobyesque cranium I was probably there a couple of weeks ago, but still.
From being about 14 stone in January, I was down to 11st 8 the other week. Back up to 11st 11 after a pretty indulgent week off work, but I'm still pretty chuffed.
Some nice clear after photos there.
Nice work, fair fucks.
Good effort. How did you manage it?
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8 pounds on in 12 days :cool:
Reckon I’ll lose around half of that by Friday just with water retention and a decent diet so not too bad all in.
I'd say I've put on at least a stone and in not done yet, there's still shitloads in the house.
Final blow out tonight ahead of weigh-in and soup diet for the next fortnight or so. I’m estimating 84kg, up from 79kg in mid-December.
Threw out loads of junk food today. Still got a few bits that were unopened left, but I'm fairly certain I can avoid those. The real challenge will be stopping the casual drinking every evening, which has been something I've been doing for the past couple of months. I'd estimate there's been less than 5 days since October that I haven't had a few beers.
The Koreans have certainly got into the spirit: large pizzas for everyone for lunch tomorrow, on the company.
I'm in. I genuinely don't think my body could handle another year/Christmas on the scale it has been. Need to sort my life out. Been feeling like I'm about to die for most of today.
The other day I was sat down watching TV and realised I was wheezing. How has it come to this?
Do people actually physically throw out junk food so they won't eat it?
Send it my way you heathens!
Yeah this is where I'm at. Putting on socks at the moment feels like a genuine risk to my internal organs. I've probably done some lasting damage.Quote:
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Cutting out shit food should be quite easy to begin with as I can't actually stand the thought of food right now.
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I noticed I was way more out of breath than I should have been after running up the stairs the other day.
Do you ever go to that chip stall in the Norwich market?Quote:
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I haven't because it looks a bit shit. Is it actually decent? The Grosvenor is good, but you have to put up with that Canadian bicentennial man and you have to fucking queue.
I won't be doing a fancy pants diet here, just going to eat less, try to lower the frequency of my junk food intake and start going to the gym once I've shaken off this feeling that I've torn the left side of my abdomen. Being mega fat actually hurts.
I spent all day yesterday doing solid shits which coupled with my abdominal pain is why I thought I was going to die. Weighed myself after my 18th shit of the day and I had put on weight for fucks sake. One more shit this morning and I lost 3 pounds. Think I can probably shit my way to my target of not being morbidly obese.
65.3KG :flex:
First day went well yesterday. Didn't slip at all, nor was I particularly tempted to. The challenge will be the rest of the week - once I get into a routine, I'm fairly good at sticking to it. It's just getting into the routine that I sometimes struggle with.
I'm basically at the exact weight I was this time last year when I got back from Australia. I reckon I can easily lose a stone within the first 2-3 weeks, and from there it will start to become more of a chore.
It is, but don't be tempted by their cheese or gravy or anything. Just go for the chips.Quote:
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Lost almost a stone in 5 days and haven't even been to the gym. lolQuote:
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My abdominal pain is basically one now (I couldn't even walk properly when it first started), so I guess I'm not dying and I'll actually be able to go to the gym next week.
I've lost 8 pounds so far, a lot of which will have just been water weight from the ridiculous amount of eating and drinking I was doing. I've not cut out drinking entirely, but I've limited it to drinking out rather than buying stuff for at home.
http://www.halotop.com/flavors/
This stuff is a godsend :drool: 80 calories for a decent sized bowl. Pretty good if you’re watching what you’re eating.
Lost nearly a stone so far just following the Slimming World diet (don’t do the group shit, she is doing it properly so it’s easier to be supportive anyway). Don’t feel any thinner or notice much in my clothes yet but I have a lot to lose so hopefully the next stone I lose will be more noticeable.
I made a bean stew last night. A fucking bean stew.
Taking drink and drugs out of the equation as they are even worse, is there some sort of remedy for the drudgery of 21st century suburban existence that can replace nice food as my vice? I really struggle with it beyond little two-week surges of willpower.
Just accept that you won't enjoy food for a while. Don't even try to dress things up to make them tasty. You're a robot now.
Exercise. Video games. Scientology. Diy.Quote:
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I'm in proper fat shit mode at the moment. Gradually turning things around exercise wise but I'm eating so much.
I've felt constantly tired and lacking the will to do anything that isn't sit on the couch and mong out recently. It's not helped by the fact that I live in a basement apartment now so I see natural light for at best an 20 minutes a day. Do those multi-vitamin tablets actually do anything or is it the worlds largest placebo?
Off the wagon today, had a mental day at work so treated myself to a few cans.
Even after you'd given yourself that nice raise?
I decided that back in December, the buzz had worn off before Christmas.
Well for some people if they don't want to change their diets exactly, just tweaking it and eating a little less works as well. I know that sound simpler than it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
But basically, if you're having steak and chips at home, buy a smaller steak than you would have (like maybe just 100g), cook much less chips that you would normally, and then throw in some salad or broccoli or summat to fill you up.
Get through whatever greens you've got first, and then you'll have nice food to finish off your meal (if you really hate eating beans and veggies and that stuff). It's just, you'll eat maybe 10 bites of it instead of 25 like you would normally have, or whatever (i'm making shit up).
What I did for a while, and still occasionally do, was use one of these apps where you put in what you eat and it says the calories in it. I don't recommend doing that over a long time, as you go a bit mental, but it's good for a bit to sort of get a feeling for how much some stuff contains. Nuts, for instance, are really fatty and contain shitloads of calories, yet they sort of feel quite healthy when you eat them so you might have three handfulls of peanuts casually, but that should have actually been about half your dinner.
Oils, butter, etc, are also things you start using a little less of in cooking when you realize exactly how much of the calories in food come from that.
And I mean, cook yourself. If you're not doing that, you're a bit doomed unless you exercise loads.
Also, eat a lot for breakfeast, and make sure you get a lot of eggs or some other protein for brekkie.
Anyway, that all seemed to work for me.
That doesn't work. When I have nice food I want loads of it.
Get some MealSquares.
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Yeah well, then I recommend being fat.
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Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
I made soup today. But something, an onion I think, wasn't right and it tasted funny so I got a Texas BBQ from Pizza Hut instead.
Good intentions though.
I got down to p much exactly 11 and a half stone yesterday. I've been hovering around there for ages in fairness but it's a satisfying milestone.
Celebrated by getting a dominos (i NEVER get a dominos!!) 2 for tuesday thingy for me and my mum. My : "Large 13.5" Half & Half Mighty Meaty®/Texas BBQ®" was dinner for today and yesterday though, whereas in the past i'd have had like three quarters and justified eating the rest there and then because "well 3 slices isn't going to be enough for a meal anyway".
The main thing I've really noticed about being really anal about calories etc is that you can still eat a pretty massive amount but still lose weight, you just have to not be entirely retarded/self destructive about it. If you don't drink much, ~2000-2500 calories is fucking loads.
@Jimmy Floyd , what's your vice, sweet or savoury? or a bit of both?
I do all of that if I want to, for two weeks. I also like most veg/healthy foods so it's not a tribulation. But after a while I want cheese again and I want cheese more than I want healthy stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Part of the problem, a week in Spain last week has reminded me, is we just don't have enough decent food available in this country. Our bread is shit and should be abolished; roast dinners are also terrible except on special occasions, but our weather is also so shit that you need to eat shit food to mentally get through it. We don't have options like fresh seafood or replacing butter with olive oil because, you know, we just don't.
How are the Swedes all tall, blond and magnificently handsome when it's dark half the year?
Savoury.Quote:
Originally Posted by igor_balis
Because the sun shines on them twice as hard the other 6 months of the year.
yeah same, and it's dangerous because when you're in the mood you can just eat a huge jumbo pack of peanuts or whatever and that's 2 days calories or somethingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
two of the most effective ways i've found to lose weight are:
-never actually have unhealthy stuff in the house by default, like in your "big shop" or whatever. if you want a treat you have to walk to the shop and buy it. it's also a false economy to say it's better value to buy multipacks or whatevz because if you have my willpower you just end up eating the multi-pack in one sitting anyway.
-try to refuse free food. only really applies if you work in a certain environment but in places where you can't go two days without some Maureen bringing in 8 cakes because it's her niece's cat's birthday or something it makes a big difference
The best strategy is just to eat a 15 inch meat feast four cheese pizza once a week, minutes before doing your big shop, and then you won't want to get anything else shit. I might try that.
:lol: that's not actually a terrible idea. i'd always do the opposite of that at uni - me and my flatmate would invariably make the grim trek to the big asda near us at like 8.30pm when we were really hungry and out of food, and come back with just the most disgusting shit. i think i'd almost always get through a packet of scotch eggs or something on the walk home. not hugely surprising how fat i got really when you add in the lager and takeaways.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lewis
Learning to cook helps too. Or marrying someone who knows how to cook.
I eat so much shit at home because my parents always have crap in the house. And at work because people always bring shit in and I get bored there easily. When I'm left to myself though I can eat reasonably healthily.Quote:
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With that said, I'm probably like 10 lbs over my 'cycling weight' right now, since I've been off the bike for two months. Really need to get back to it.
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How about you try that thing Multi did (I think) at some point - one meal diet thing? The idea being you can only have one meal a day and it can be whatever the fuck you want and enormous.
Now, I don't really advocate that, as I think it fucks your metabolism and it's not sustainable if you have a job, more or less, but you could do some sort of variety where you basically have something sturdy but healthy for breakfeast, a very light lunch every day of maybe 400-500 calories - that basically sets you up for being able to eat a little whatever you want for dinner (you know, within reason).
But it's all about what works for you as well because while you do have the liberty to eat more, you still can't have 1800 calories every night and get away with it. It might also be that you are one of those people who can't deal with being a bit hungry, and then you should probably try some sort of 5-snacks-a-day setup (don't eat so much fruit though it's full of sugar).
As for Oil & Butter, they are much the same in terms of energy really. Olive oil is "healthier" fat but it still makes you fat (there's a reason Greece is like the fattest country in Europe). I've seen people drench sallads in Olive oil under some sort of delusion that it's really healthy because Jamie Oliver or someone said it's better than butter. One tablespoon of it is maybe 120 calories which usually is more than the rest of the sallad itself.
Oh, and try walking loads. Use your phone as step-counter and make sure you get at least 10.000 steps daily (ideally 15k but).
I started a diet at the turn of the year and have lost a stone so far. :cool:
Two Weetabix for breakfast, babybel cheese, cherry tomatoes, an apple and an orange for lunch, and a meal off weight watchers app for tea (my fiancée goes to this every week).
I feel much fitter since starting the diet. I've had no alcohol this year either. :cool:
That sounds exclusively like "OK I'm hungry whaddawegot in the friiidge! Shit this'll have to do" type of food.
I'm starving already, still hours until dinner. Just had a dry slice of bread. Someone help me.
The dog has gained two hundred grams since Christmas. :cool:
Its very effective, all the food is very healthy. I want to avoid bread so that's the reason behind the lunch.Quote:
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An apple and an orange for lunch. On your bike.
Which would be an effective form of exercise to enable someone to lose weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I'm managing just fine with my lunch. I've cut out bread completely and I'm feeling the benefits of it. :cool:
What benefit? Bread is just a carbohydrate. Good to reduce for weight loss, but - unless you have an intolerance - it isn’t an evil substance.
I couldn't have an apple and an orange for lunch, let alone cherry tomatoes. I'd rather die of a heart attack than live like that.
I’m having a salad with feta for lunches at the moment. It’s shit but the cheese keeps me sane.
Rather eat a mealsquare than bloody salad.
Feta's weird. I'll have one square and think 'This is much nicer than I normally think of Feta' and then I have another and feel like I'm going to be ill. Like my tastebuds can only handle so much feta.
Benefit of weight loss. Extra benefit of diet is feeling better in myself. No longer do I return home from my office job and want to go to bed straightaway. It's brilliant and it's the future.Quote:
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I'm still fat and have a massive beer belly but I'm heading in the right direction.
What the fuck is a meal square?
Shit, I just googled them. Or rather, lack of shit because they look a recipe for constipation.
I might buy some scales and start posting in here again. I'm pretty flabby atm but can't seem to shake it, admittedly mostly due to being weak-willed. I'm gonna attempt to have a low-key Christmas and may even start the weigh-ins before it all kicks off on 22nd in hope that I can fat shame myself into not eating everything in sight.
I'm an absolute disgrace at the moment. I feel like a revolting tub of lard. I need to do something before it becomes a problem.
Same here. Already is a problem though. Not the best time of year to be doing anything about it either. It'll have to wait till January.
Also this thread seems to be fucked. It's showing there's a page 9 but when I click on it, it takes me back to the top of page 8.
Probably because of leedsrevolution's deleted account. It's fucked a few things.
To be fair, it's already a problem for me too. But not to the point where it's not salvageable with a few months of eating properly.
I started doing a 16/8 fast recently (ie all your eating comes in an 8 hour window). I don't know if it makes any difference to my weight but I already feel a bit better for it.
I get married in four months and I'm the fattest I've been for years. I'm around 14 stone at 5"8 which isn't ideal. Need to get down to 12.5 by April so will start posting in here in the new year.
I've been doing similar for years (basically skipping breakfast) and it's destroyed my metabolism. Suggest it'd be good for a month or two and then mix it back up so your body doesn't get used to it.Quote:
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I'm a big fan of intermittent fasting. Becoming somewhat fat-adapted does wonders for curbing hunger. When I was full keto about a year and a half ago I could walk around for hours and not eat all day and I was fine. Probably lost half a stone in two weeks.Quote:
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I've failed to get anywhere near keto so many times in the last year or so. I'm probably actually at an acceptable weight at the moment, and I'm sure there are plenty of people that think I don't need to lose weight, but I hide it well and I really don't want to die without having ever been slim. Just one summer would be nice.
I think I just need to hide myself away for a while, but its the boredom at weekends that leads to drinking/eating and feeling tired all week then I make up for it with food. How do people go about getting hobbies they can spend hours and hours on? I just don't seem to care about anything. Even writing all this out, when I get paid on Thursday there's every chance I'll decide that its Christmas and I don't care about dieting.
This place is quite handy in that regard, though, as there are plenty of posters just waiting for any opportunity to put somebody down. A fat week where you gain a pound or two comes with great shame.
Anyway, lets do this. Summer 2019 is ours.
Weighed 108.5kg yesterday, but late in the day and with clothes on. Think 100kg by April is a decent target.
I'm a bit heavier than I'd like - 80kg last time I weighed. Would like to be down to 76 again.
Intermittent fasting is good for you but I've never bothered. Maybe in the new year.
01/01/2019: 110.6kg
That's 2.1kg more than ten days ago, but truth be told I weighed pretty similar to the 10-day-old weight a couple of days ago and have just eaten shitloads since, so that'll drop right down by next weigh-in which might give me a little boost. I'll probably switch to Sunday weigh-ins as that's more likely to keep me out of trouble.
For the first time ever, I had quite a few people make comments about working out over Christmas. I do go to the gym relatively frequently, but nobody has ever said anything. I did start doing 5x5 reps on arms recently, which is probably the reason why, but regardless that's given me extra motivation to keep going in the gym. I'm gonna keep running too and try to organise weekend kick-abouts, though its a pain in the arse in winter. Then from Feb when I have money again I'll alternate kickboxing/6-a-side on Monday evenings.
Is anybody else joining FAT FIGHTERS?
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HI MATE
In readiness for NEW YEAR NEW IGOR, I basically allowed December to be a total cheat month. I know that's the case for everyone this time of year, but I fucking went for it. Drank shit loads, ate about 15 takeaways, randomly having 4 slices of toast at before bed, some days my lunch at work would be like a ASDA triple fat bastard wrap, a sausage roll and loads of crisps.
Just weighed myself and to my amazement I've only gone from ~12 stone to 12 stone 2.8 pounds. That's barely more than a KG gained. Piece of piss, lads.
Fuck off, you smug wanker.
I assumed I’d gain some pounds over December too but the horrible food poisoning I had a couple weeks ago and the subsequent decline in food libido means I’ve lost about 10 pounds this month, which I really didn’t need or want
Attempted to go for a run around some playing fields today. Probably the first time I've really tried to run outside in about 5 years.
Did not go well.
Think I'll try and stick with it every week or so and try and play some more football ie 5s. I do plenty weights but if I want to be a bit leaner I'll need to do some cardio.
I've officially started. Put on about a stone over December, and 2 stone since the end of summer. I'm aiming to lose 3 stone by the summer, as I was a bit podgy when I got back from my holidays.
I can definitely go it if I go "all in", and I'm feeling super motivated right now. If I can keep it up for a fortnight, it will be plain sailing from there.
Got weighed this morning, expecting the worst.
10 stone 4.
No worries there.
See you in the other threads, fatties.
It doesn't matter what you weigh, though, it's how you look. I'm only weighing myself in order to provide extra motivation through shaming.
I went gym yesterday and was okay after a couple weeks off. I've been on three runs since Christmas, though, and they've all been dreadful, but it'll come soon enough.
Chicken, chips and crumble for lunch at work.
Fucked it, lads. :(
I went to bed famished last night. Painful stuff. Usually takes about 4 or 5 days until my stomach stops having a tantrum. Today has been better so far. No slip ups yet from me.
That's the biggest struggle for me. Tomorrow and Saturday I'll tackle it properly. I've had no carbs today, so I'm hoping that's prepared my body somewhat. I'll eat to get through work and then the real hell starts. Can't wait.
You'll end up crashing and burning if you go cold turkey doing this.
I track my calories, protein & fibre on My Fitness Pal and lift 3 times a week. Lost 3 stone in 6 months and still been able to have a life, it's been excellent.
Using this odd half week as a transition into my diet starring properly on Monday.
Haven't been training or tracking my calories but I'm sticking to three decent meals a day and healthy snacks in between and plenty of water etc.
On Sunday I'll prep my breakfast and lunches for the working week and start tracking from Monday morning. Going to aim for 2,200 calories a day and try to gym 3 or 4 times a week.
Alcohol is always my biggest hurdle, end up getting pissed, eating shit and then the next day hungover either drinking again or eating a load more shit and not wanting to train. Going to try and keep my drinking down as much as possible for 6 weeks and then spend 6 weeks easing myself back into once I am more used to eating well and training.
Drinking is the killer for me too. Not only is each beer about 200 odd calories, but like you said, it leads to me saying "Ah fuck it" and ordering a pizza or something.
I'm not tracking calories precisely, but I roughly know what I'm eating. I'm aiming for under 1200 per day for now, and will increase that to 1600 once I've made a bit of progress. I don't really get much exercise outside of walking the dog, but that's good for about 3 miles per day.
I was on 2200-2400 for the last 6 months or so. Have increased to maintenance calories (2800) over Christmas and probably the rest of this month just for a bit of a break.Quote:
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Will see where I'm at then, could probably get a bit leaner before looking to add some on.
Under 1200 is mental IMO, I can't see how you'll stick to that. Even 1600 will be too tough.Quote:
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https://www.iifym.com/tdee-calculator/
This will calculate how many calories you burn per day, and then you should just subtract 600 calories which should give you a loss of between 1 and 1.5 lbs per week.
https://www.reddit.com/r/1200isplenty/Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
It's not that mental if you're careful about what you eat. I never eat breakfast, have around 300 calories for lunch, 700ish for dinner, leaving 200 for snacks/drinks. Yesterday I had a 6 inch Turkey & Ham Subway for lunch, followed by tomato and chicken pasta in the evening. I had an apple in the morning and a banana in the evening for snacks.
Losing weight isn't that difficult for me once I get over the initial week or so. I lost around 5 stone a few years ago, but working from home and quitting squash/the gym has meant the weight has gradually crept back on over the years.
Fair enough, as I said above, I managed to lose about 1-1.5lbs per week steadily on around 2200-2400 calories a day which meant I could incorporate some treats in which made me a lot less likely to fall off the wagon.
If it works for you then happy days!
Long term I need to learn some moderation. Once I get to my goal weight, I often end up eating like shit for the next month. As I said above, drinking is a big problem for me, as its useless calories and it leads to me eating even worse food. I need to teach myself how to moderate a bit better.
I'm very similar to SvN. I can go into robot mode if motivated enough. I find it pretty easy on low carb, but drinking really fucks things up. I'm going to try and be as good as I can, but I've got a big weekend next weekend, then another couple in mid February. That's a decent window in-between to get things done, though, then going into March I can hopefully get a run of a couple months together.
01/01/2019: 110.6kg
06/01/2019: 110.3kg
That's a bit shit, but I did end up getting hammered on Friday and binge eating a bit yesterday. I think I might switch to Friday morning weigh-ins as at least there'll be more consistent readings that what we get on Sundays. This coming weekend is going to be heavy, but then there's a three-and-a-half week run with no temptations.
I weigh every day then just take the average for the week as my weekly weight. Means I don’t get hung up on fluctuations etc. Might be a shout for you?
Yeah, good shout. Or at least weigh myself every day to know when its a huge fluctuation or not.
I had a lunch out and a takeaway last night and jumped up 4lbs overnight :D.
Guarantee I’ll be back down 3lbs at least tomorrow but if I had taken today as my weekly weight I’d have had a shit fit.
I've been pretty good this weekend. I had a pint yesterday and one this evening, but nothing else that I shouldn't have. I've lost 8lbs since the weight I was new year's day, but the vast majority of that is obviously bloat.
I'm 85kg at the mo, a good 5kg over my comfort zone, so I'll be back on a soup diet from tomorrow, roughly doing a 6:1 pattern, allowing for solid food and drinks on a Thursday so not to end up totally depressed. Hoping to drop 4kg this month, and as I usually do when shedding, drop a few more in Feb before easing up.
This weekend was relitevely easy, had four cans on Saturday night to get rid of my last few from Christmas. Ate well without tracking anything and made a couple of batch meals to tie me over through the week.
Have planned out and logged all my calories for the day just under 2000. Hoping to do a bit of gentle exercise this evening and then start gym from tomorrow.
Dieting whilst living on 4 or 5 hours sleep a night is a no go, so any weight loss I achieve will be solely down to not eating and drinking like Henry VIII as I did for the whole of December. That alone should be good for about half a stone, mind.
I'm back on the keto bandwagon again, did well beginning of last year losing 7kgs.
No carbs, sugar. inc beer. (Red wine and whisky aloud :))
The next couple of days will be tough. I'm staying at the office and there's a fridge full of beer and a shitload of snacks left over from the Christmas party, all just begging to be snacked on.
What do you do when you stay over at the office? Do you work all evening? Where do you sleep?
Presumably he has one of these contraptions which the Japanese have come up with for just such a purpose.
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I've been trying to eat breakfast since Christmas but it fucks up my whole day.
:D
I have a bedroom here that has a TV, desk, sofa and bed in it. The evenings go pretty quickly in most cases - I either work if there's something important that needs doing, or just watch TV/play games. Same as at home, really. Once I've walked the dog and eaten dinner, there's usually only a couple of hours to kill.
You mostly work from home but when you're in the office, you've turned your office into...another home? :cab:
Sort of. The office itself is untouched, but I need somewhere to sleep. We had a spare room on the ground floor that was just being used for storage, so I turned it into a bedroom.
GP said I have to cut carbs massively, anyone have any good lunch options/recipes?
Use beans or lentils as the "base" of foods. They have carbs, but much less than say potato. And I suppose if you do eat carbs, eat "natural" ones (i.e. potatoes or beets or carrots or whatever) and basically avoid anything that has flour in it.
Which fuckin sucks, by the way - because bread, baby.
I never understand how carbs can be so bad yet be the perfect conduit for any meal.
Why did he tell you to cut them, out of interest?
I'd say so as he doesn't drop dead and doctors have a thing about carbs always. Last time I was in the hospital the doctor said to me about weight, etc and his answer was "no more bread". I rarely eat bread and have loads of far worse things but is was just no bread (he didn't ask if I even ate it or what I ate).
Talking about weight and he asked for a rough daily dietary intake.Quote:
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Eggs, meat, veg and fruit for breakfast. Soup with seeds for lunch. Then for your evening meals get your carbs from plant sources, green veg and potatoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Also things like fajitas with lettuce wraps rather then tortillas, stuffed peppers, cauli rice, spiralized veg etc
Annoyingly can't seem to properly get started with my diet. Food wise I'm eating 2000 calories a day of mostly whole clean foods but I've had a bit of a cold since Friday and haven't got the energy to get out and do any walking or go to the gym etc. I really need the exercise to help keep the diet on track.
All the bad food and drink from Christmas is gone now so no distractions. Just need to shift this cold and get moving.
In my opinion, the key to weight loss is in the diet rather than the exercise. Exercise is great at keeping yourself healthy, though.
You can eat 500 calories in about 5 minutes. It's going to take you an hour or so to work that off in the gym.
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It really is all about calories. If you expend 2500 calories a day just going about your life and all you eat is 2000 calories worth of McDonalds you’ll still lose weight. You won’t be healthy, but the weight will still come off.
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My lunches never have carbs, mainly consist of salad and a meat. Tuna, chicken, steak that sort of thing.
True, losing weight is roughly 70% - 80% diet and rest working out, fitness, cardio etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
You need to burn more calories then you put in to the body.
Yeah this is true. Just personally I find it really hard to stay on track if I'm not exercising as well as eating well.Quote:
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It's 100% a mental thing with me.
Oh, I definitely get that. It's a lot easier to resist the temptation of a 400 calorie piece of cake when you can equate it to your gym session earlier that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Also makes it hard over holidays when people do lunches and bring in awesome food. I failed over Christmas, but so far been on track.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
If you are fat enough that your doctor is on your case about your carbohydrate intake you could live on sausages and omelettes and the weight would still fly off. Get on that Tyson Fury burgers and cheese diet.
He wasn't on my case, I was asking him.
He's also set up blood tests for me to take and will refer me to a dietician (I've been twice, they're crap) because I said losing weight would help with my depression.
Which are the real ones and which are the chancers? Dieticians or nutritionists?
https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-que...-nutritionist/Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Dietitian (that doesn't look right but whatever) are the proper ones.
They weren't much help last time I went down that route though.
It's true, but I find exercise gives you the double whammy of losing weight whilst also suppressing your appetite. Once I get in the swing of gym and running every day I'm on easy street, but it takes a while to get there.
EDIT: That's a response to the end of the last page.
Currently eating carrots with a lentil dip...
Download the myfitnesspal app and start to track everything you eat and drink. Really helps with portion control and eventually weight loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
It's a pain for the first couple of weeks scanning and inputting everything but becomes easier and helps loads.
Myfitnesspal is essential if you've never used it. It completely changed my mindset and educated me so much about portion control. I don't really bother with it now because I don't feel the need, but I used it for about a year when I originally went from obese to normal.
The amount of calories in pasta for example is mental. I used to have pretty much two handfuls on my own and think I was 'being healthy'. That's probably about 150g of pasta at around 500 calories. Adding in meat & cheese etc and you're not far off 1000 calories.
I think that's where people say 'oh just cut out carbs' when really they should be talking about portion control.
Yep. My mother in law is overweight, and my wife has been trying to educate her about calories for years. She'll be on a "diet" and for dinner she'll have a huge portion of pasta, covered in grated cheese, with a garlic pizzabread shared with her husband. It must be pushing 1000+ calories easily, yet she thinks she's had a healthy meal.
How could anyone think that's healthy by any measure?
"Oh, it's only pasta"
I think their generation see pasta as an inherently healthy food. So having loads of it isn't a problem.
Associate it with the Italians and their healthy long living. However that was probably more down to a scarcity of food in that generation.
Carb wise - obviously what's been said but also look for foods "low fat" as they're usually packed with sugar. Sugar converts to carbs and you've got your insulin spikes which increases the hunger levels. Sugar is the real devil.
If you can live with those 1 cal sprays in place of oil thats a ridiculous saving in calories, too. 2 tbsp of that is like 250 calories.
Yeah I use one of those, but typically need about 8 sprays. Still better than freepouring oil.
I hate the sprays so much.
Other way round - carbs become sugar.Quote:
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Samsung Health is much cleaner than myfitnesspal for tracking food. The latter is a mess.
Lots of older people who struggle with weight have gone through weight watchers, slimming world, slim fast etc and there's never any mention of calories in vs calories out just whatever gimmick they're trying to push.Quote:
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My partners mum was doing slimming world last year and they encourage you to eat as much pasta as you want, no tracking or counting. Just eating it till you're full. It's criminal really.
I tried.to explain to her about counting calories and she was having none of it, she ended up saying all that really matters is sugar so I'll watch that for a bit.
That's not all that slimming world says, to be fair to them. They tell you to fill up a third (or maybe half, I can't remember exactly) of your plate with veg. And the pasta wouldn't be covered with cheese sauce or anything. It's all very low in fat. Their diet actually works.Quote:
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Cutting carbs is good for losing fat, if not especially for losing weight
Cutting limbs is good for both.
It’s not really sustainable though as you can ‘cheat the system’ to save up your syns to have on treats but depending on the calories in those syns, you could put on weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
There are benefits to it but it’s essentially making it into a game rather than the actual science of eating less calories than you expend.
Just did a weigh in - 11lbs down so far since new year's day. I managed to survive the two days in the office without having a beer, so that was positive. It's my birthday this weekend though, so I expect to have a difficult few days. I'm definitely drinking and eating out, hopefully I don't over indulge.
That's awesome!Quote:
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It's a bit of a cliche but I've found the best way to do it is to eat whatever you want on your birthday, but get right back on the wagon the next day. Worst case you might gain a few pounds of water weight etc which should disappear by the weekend after, but you won't do too much damage.
107.6kg today which is consistent with the readings this week. I think that's a fairer reflection given I'm not crammed with food. I'll weigh tomorrow and that'll be my official number, then next week I'll be happy to be anywhere close to that as this weekend will be a blow out. From there I've four working weeks with no big plans so I'm going to attempt to keep my head down.Quote:
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Cauliflower rice is fucking shambolic.
Back on my Coconut cream, chia seeds and berries for breakfast. Added Coconut flakes to mix it up a bit.
I'm still trying to force myself to eat breakfast. Made one of them yogurt porridge loaves as I don't like wet porridge and it's handy to eat driving.
Sounds good that. Link for the recipe please.Quote:
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I’m not trying to lose weight, but I have been trying to get back to my usual diet after really going overboard with overindulging in everything during my holiday in December. As a result I’m hungry all the time which is annoying, as I made a bet about quitting sweets, crisps, etc. until my sons birthday in April. I think eating quite a bit of meat (I don’t usually eat any) during my holiday plays some part with this hunger I’m feeling.
Yeah, it's awful.Quote:
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Smells like feet.
I like it enough
500g tub of yogurt (I used blueberry last time).Quote:
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Wash and dry out the tub, fill with porridge oats.
1 teaspoon of bread soda (bicarb).
½ teaspoon of salt.
Mix all up, put in a greased loaf tin, bake for 40 mins at 180°C, remove from tin, bake for 10 mins at 180°C.
Thanks. Will try that on the weekend.
That sounds good. I always have porridge before the gym, so that might make a change.
Is it quite dense? Sounds interesting.
It's not bad, not too dry so it can be eaten without anything on it.
Handy to grab going out the door to eat on the go.
Looks decent. I’d stick peanut butter or jam on that as well. Might do some at the weekend as well.
I like it, but then I like cauliflower. Aldi do frozen stuff but also Mediterranean style cauliflower rice that's really good.Quote:
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https://veganwomble.co.uk/wp-content...lower-rice.jpg
I also had some broccoli rice (we bought a big pack of each and had a bit of both) which was a lot better.Quote:
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But broccoli is far superior for me.
I like cauliflower but not just boiled.Quote:
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That looks decent though.
01/01/19: 110.6kg
06/01/19: 110.3kg
11/01/19: 106.7kg
With a 0.9kg drop from just yesterday I reckon I'm still shitting out Christmas.
Targeting 100kg by April and 95kg by July.
Finally starting to feel better. Going to hit the gym on Monday, hopefully I can get into the swing of things gym wise next week, will be hard as I have a 24/7 contract to cover next week. So could end up working a load of hours.
Just trying to focus on eating well at the moment, found the last 5 days easy. Hard part will be this evening, haven't got any plans but can easily be distracted on a Saturday.
Think I'll do my first weigh in tomorrow.
Bacon roll and a protein bar for breakfast this morning before work as I didn't have anything prepped. 527 calories in total, less than my normal oats, hopefully it's still substantial enough to keep me going till 1ish.
1.5kg down after 5 days, minimum 4 to go. I’ll have a pretty generous intake this weekend as I’m getting a new tat and I can’t deal with it without plenty of sugar, as well as needing decent healthy meals for a couple of days to speed healing, so I’ll be back on it Monday with another break to party the weekend after.
Weather being shit is annoying. I’m not signed up to a gym at the mo, and truth be told I’m glad of it as I hate the damn places, but that also means I should be walking and skating more as my main sources of exercise, but the cold damp shite that is the weather right now is puttting me right off.
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/4O7N...09.20_PM.0.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by The Merse
Skating. :lol:
Down from 15st 6lbs on the 27th to 14st 9.6lbs this morning.
Have basically just worked all weekend (mostly at home) which really helps me keep away from junk food and beer etc. So easy to sit down watching football and end up with a few beers.
Next Saturday I have a drinking thing I can't avoid, going to try and get straight back to it on the Sunday.
Down 2.2 KG from when the GP weighed me last week. I had just eaten lunch then and was wearing jeans so it wont be quite as much actually lost but still pretty good I feel.
Been away for a few days, so I'm keen to get home and do a weigh in tomorrow. I haven't done a weigh in since Monday. I've eaten sensibly, so I'm hoping I'll see a few pounds off.
I'm definitely getting fatter. I really need to be more strict with my diet at work. I can control myself at home, but when there's free chips at lunch every day and free cake kicking about im struggling to avoid it.
Poor self restraint :(
Any tips for avoiding temptation?
Try some Pavlovian conditioning.
Every time you think about the chips and/or cake just punch yourself in the balls.
Weighed in this morning and have hit the 1 stone (6.35Kg) mark. 1 down, 2 too go. I suspect the next two are going to take significantly longer.
Pretend you’re a power lifter.Quote:
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Way back up to 110.1kg. Last weekend ruined me and I've been ill this week too. This weekend I'm going to set it right and we might as well start measuring from this point. I'm fully staying away from alcohol now.
Pussy
Opinions on bulk-cooking for weekday lunches? I've tried to get into it but I quite like going to boots and picking out a slightly different meal deal every day.
I find it helps to eat the same thing. If food is boring, I spend less time thinking about it.
I'd just make a load of chicken and grain then mix it up with your salad, fats, dressing. Could even toss the chicken in different seasoning to keep it different.
My old Ghanaian housemate used to cook all of his revolting African meals for the week on a Sunday, so I used to evacuate the house until it was safe. I left a jumper out drying on the landing once and I had to throw it away.
And another kilo down.Quote:
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107.9kg this morning, so back down a couple kg again. Gonna try and get to 104kg within two weeks.
How tall are you?
Look at all 6 stone of Phonics ready to have a nibble
I eat garbage all day, smoke and drink 4-5 beers a night. Weighing in at 60kg. :cool:
BMI says im the equivalent of a starving Ethiopian.
6'2". BMI says I'm currently obese but I'm really not. I'm definitely flabby, though. My lean mass is about 80kg so I think 95 is a healthy target. I'm normally around 100 when at a good weight, but I'd like to see what happens at 95.
18lbs down in total now. 3 lbs away from the halfway point, which will hopefully be before the end of the month. I expect the second half to be a much tougher slog, and I'm giving myself until April to hit it. As long as I don't slip too much between now and then, I should be okay.
When I weighed myself last weekend, I was down 5lbs since the end of December. Not as impressive as some of you in here but then I'm not starving myself either. That was, what, about three weeks? Even if I was losing 5lbs a month for the next six months or so, I'd be happy.
I've gone from 15 stone 6 lbs to 14 stone 4 lbs which I'm really happy with, a lot of that will be water weight and muscle as I've been a bit lazy but I'm happy with how I'm looking and how clothes are fitting again.
I'd be happy with a 1 or 2 pound loss from now on. I've settled into habit of eating 2000 calories six days a week and then on Saturday eating a bit more which seems to be working and keeping cravings at bay.
I'm dampening my expectations for this week already. I won't lose 2kg, but I did hit 80kg bench tonight which I'm happy about. Would like to hit 100kg but think it'll be tricky whilst eating at a large defecit.
I've had a few beers tonight while watching the match, which is a bit naughty and against the rules I set for myself. Going to write it off as a one off and get back to normal tomorrow.
I think part of why I've been so hungry was drinking a bit Saturday. I still felt fine on Sunday and was fairly healthy, but I've felt tired since Monday morning.
I had a "day off" last week and got smashed on the Saturday. I spent the entire Sunday absolutely starving, and still didn't feel right on the Monday. It definitely makes a difference.
I'm down 6.5 KG.
It's going well.
Had an absolute mare last night. A few beers with the football turned into getting smashed. I felt dreadful this morning.
I actually think I should be doing much better than I have been. Might have to start calorie counting, but I should be way under so I don't know if my body is just resisting low carb by being a dickhead.
11.5kg lost in the first 4 weeks.
Really happy with that.
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You lost 5 kilos in a week?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
He must mean pounds.
I mean kilos.
Before I was using the GPs weight but I then switched as I weighed in 2kgs heavier a few days later.
So I had lost 8.5 rather than 6.5. Sorry for the confusion.
I can only imagine it's like the American office weight loss stuff.
Eat more immediately before to maximise weight loss. /Dwight
Seriously good effort mahow. Keep it up. For perspective how many kilos are you looking to shift in total?
A fuck load.
What were you, and what is the target?
Bitches. The target is Bitches.
:dc: bishes.
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GrossQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I'd only gained a little bit of weight over Xmas (about four pounds up to 12st4lb). Just weighed myself for the first time since early Jan; 13 stone. Lol oops. Guess now's as good a time as any to sort myself out. New march new me.
I'll ask in food thread but does anyone have any good, simple healthy 'staple' dishes? I have a few decent ones but I get sick of eating the same three dinners on loop (and this lack of interest equates to disinterest in cooking and far too many takeaways etc).
Frozen pizza almost ebery day. Really good calorie/dollar ratio
I'm in shambles at the moment. My housemate/mate has gone manic (bipolar) and it's so stressful. When I'm stressed, I eat, but I realise it's doing me no good. It's so much harder to diet when you aren't sleeping well, though. I'm going to stop taking my wallet to work and just taking a sensible amount of food with me.
Can you not fuck him out and get someone else in?
I'm not sure, but he's a mate as well as a housemate so I want to help him. It's getting better now, though, and I think he'll be going home at the weekend. I had decided earlier to stop caring, for the sake of my own health/obesity, but ultimately I'm not going to turn my back on him. He could do with being sectioned, but apparently it's very difficult. The quickest way to do it would be to beat him up and leave him unconscious somewhere.
In the month of February, I lost a grand total of 1lb. Not that surprising, considering how badly I ate and drink for about 60% of it. I sort of feel like it's out of my system now though, and I'm ready to crack on. I've got a holiday in April, so I need to at least be down to "not embarrassed to take my shirt off" weight by then.
I'm actually getting somewhere now. 3.8kg/8lbs down this month. Calorie counting is a necessary evil, although its not that bad to be honest. It keeps you positive seeing yourself on track and knowing the results are coming.
I’m the fattest I’ve ever been. Just tried to do a Joe Wickes HIIT thingy and gave up halfway through.
Will try again tomorrow. :uhoh:
I want my neck fully back so starting to monitor calories. 6ft1 and weighed in at 16st last Monday so down to 15.5st but that was always happening in the first two weeks or so. The app says November before getting down to 13st eating 1900 but I’ve not really been going over 1500 if near that. Will start back at the gym next week at some point to smooth things over.
Was out drinking on Friday for the last time until the Napoli/Liverpool game at the end of July so be interesting to see how much of an effect that has not drinking for a solid six weeks. Spewed all over the taxi after about 9/10 drinks anyway so probably for the best. Not touching cheese or bread has been the hardest thing surprisingly as assumed crisps would be the issue.
You’ll never last on 1500. Figure out how many calories you burn a day then subtract about 600 from that and the weight will come off steadily.
Would that not be under 1500?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
I’d be surprised. Someone of Waffs height and weight will be easily burning 2500 a day.
Edit: heres a calculator which will work it out roughly.
https://www.verywellfit.com/how-many-calories-do-i-burn-every-day-3495464
Maybe I’m in a honeymoon phase or something but I feel less hungry than I did before when eating for the sake of it. The first week I felt like I was starving myself but not at the minute. I’ve struggled to eat over 1300 all week and that’s not taking into account exercise. (Walking really, but nothing much else - averaged 11k steps most of the week). Today it says I’ve had 693 calories but 655 wiped off due to walking.
Fair play if you can do it. I’ve tried to do anything between 1500-1800 before and only managed it for a month before going off the rails and fucking it as it was too restrictive.
I’m sitting on about 2200-2400 just now and still losing roughly 1lb a week. Not life changing but means I can still fit in a takeaway or two and a few pints.
I have no idea if I’m even eating correctly or not lmao but as I said, we’ll see how it goes. Looking forward to going back to the gym next week as well, so will naturally eat more with that.
Usually have an apple or yogurt between waking up and lunch where I’ll have wafer thin chicken, salad or baked potato and then protein bar/apples/yogurt between that and tea. The missus will just make something off that BBC good food which is all max 600 calories.
Still missing cheese badly ��
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Square go any wan
That's the 'before' sorted then.
Haha, of course. See how much of a nonce I can be in the next door photo. Down 11lbs in total from yesterday morning but don’t really notice much other than one roll rather than three in my neck when I look upwards lol
I'd say be wary of the protein bars which are usually packed with sugar. I'm using myprotein impact whey at the moment which is meant to be decent for cutting.
I've been on smoothies for breakfast for a while now, veg + fruit + almond milk/natural yoghurt. Pretty filling and avoids processed cereals.
My biggest issue at the moment is booze and shitty snacks in work. The fat just sticks to my gut.
Under 15st this morning. Eoiii. If you’ve a foot fetish, enjoy x
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Your right foot is a shambles.
Leopard print bags on point though.
Down to 81kg after a weekend (and last week in part) eating less.
Still got a bit more fat around my waist then I'd like, so think I need to lose another 1-2kg. Unfortunately think that would be at the detriment to strength.
How are you all doing?
I've managed to stick around the above 80-81kg. I'm regularly 79.5kg first thing in the morning, and obviously a kilo and a bit heavier throughout the day as I rehydrate.
Trying to avoid non baked crisps is tough. Smashed an entire bag of Thai sweet chilli sensations by myself yesterday when hungover after a day of drinking cider :moop:
Down about 2 stone since the start of the year, I have found a nice rhythm where I eat and exercise really well during the week and then still go out and enjoy myself over the weekend while sort of making more informed food choices.
After this weekend I'm going to rein in the weekends a bit for a month as I am off to Greece at the end of September for two weeks so would be nice to have dropped a few more pounds before then.
I find the food side of things fine now after a fe months and am doing as much walking as I can each day, my work day is usually 8-12k steps and then I try to top it up to 20k overall with another walk after work.
Christ. I've done 3,100 steps today.
I should be obese.
Good effort Andy.
I'm in proper "fat bastard" territory these days. I've put on about 2 stone since the turn of the year, and I was a stone overweight then.
I started getting back on the wagon on Sunday, and it's been okay so far. I'm drinking about 6 litres of water per day, which seems to be helping.
You seen them low calories Pizza Express pizzas?
Been struggling to get back into a healthy eating routine of late. I've given up caffeine since Sunday and found that's helped a bit. I think I was going through quite a bit of caffeine in the name of appetite suppression but then ate more as I had too much energy and got bored.
Anybody on this?
Came in at a record 124.7kg on the 3rd of the month, then down 3.9kg last Friday and probably another 2kg tomorrow. From here it should all be fat coming off. Work is ridiculously quiet so I'm gonna take advantage of not requiring any energy and just hammer myself into the ground.
Jesus, I didn't know how good I had it.Quote:
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I'm now a stone heavier, and the heaviest I've been since 2012. I've given myself 6 months to lose 3 stone. I'm 2 weeks in now and feel like I'm over the really difficult stage. The most difficult thing is going to be not drinking anywhere near as much, as it had become borderline out of control.
Managed the festive period fairly well for a change. Last year I got down to 12.8 and then got up to 13.2 after I started training again were I stayed until Christmas.
Weighed myself last weekend and I was 13.4 which was a lot lighter than I expected as i stopped the exercise for 6 weeks. I assume I've lost muscle and gained fat but overall it could be far worse.
Started back in the gym this week, my aim is to hover around 13 stone for until April time so i can gain a bit of muscle and then cut down to 12 stone for summer.
Jesus Offshore. That was pretty much my fat weight, and that was a sustained life-long effort. What have you been doing?
Lol that's almost double the weight I was feeling aggrieved about at Christmas and we're the same height. Sort your life out.
lol nice motivation, lads.
I can't have been much less last time I posted. Maybe 110kg or just under? 5kg of that heaviest weight was food and water weight as I'd eaten loads the night before and over Christmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Apart from that, London has been pretty stressful at times, as well as living with mates who can be just as bad. I've still been active, but since I injured my knee in August I've only been able to do weights. I should have it sorted by April if I drop over 1kg a week I was 105kg at some point last year and pretty trim so I'd like to get down to 100kg.
Pretty trim at 230 pounds is some going.
That's nearly two of me.
Really? I assumed you were a fatso tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Other end of the scale. Not through choice, either.
Down 6.7kg since the 3rd. Half of that is food/water weight from Christmas, but I've been spending 2 hours in the gym every morning and will continue to do so. At this rate the journey to 105kg is going to be easy and achieved by 13th March.
I'm down 1 stone 2 pounds so far (as of two days ago). The fact that I'm no longer drinking 3/4 cans a night is saving me about 800 calories per day, so it's actually not been too difficult other than the first week or so.
3 more stone to go.
Grenade Carb Killa bars are game changers. I'd heard good things, but "good things" is selling them short. The chocolate chip salted caramel bar is better than any chocolate bar on the market.
They made an Easter egg, it was £10+ delivery though. Regret not getting one now.
Top tier products. The birthday cake bars are spot on as well.
I thought birthday cake was great at first, but by the end of the bar I was bored of it.
Jaffa Quake is the second best, then white chocolate cookie and white chocolate salted peanut are both very, very good.
I think I've tried pretty much all except dark chocolate mint now, which I'll try tomorrow. Exciting stuff.
They did not sit right with my stomach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Made me have horrible cramps.
Yeah, polyols will flood you out initially but you'll adapt. Never give up.
Breakfast of champions. I buy a few boxes at a time from here and they last a couple of months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
The grenade on the packaging is the same tactic that gets 15 year olds addicted to Monster
I've been eating like shit and not going to the gym for a month and a half, and am somehow down 4 kilos. You wot.
Amazon works out cheaper for me cause they knock the VAT off. I've got eight boxes at the moment. The Grenade website is so much more expensive that I can't help but wonder if there'll be a price hike soon. They're £2.90 individually in M&S fcol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I am the opposite. Hardly eating a thing compared to usual and yet feel very fat (too scared to check the numbers).Quote:
Originally Posted by Luca
7 lbs down during lockdown.
I think I'll try and have a weekend off the beer and really crack on. I find one weekend of drinking really throws me off.
Knocked my daily calories down from 1950 to 1750 as well, see if that's sustainable for a couple of weeks.
I think I'm fluctuating between 78 and 79kg. Definitely got heavier in the lockdown - probably because of drinking.
I've settled at 80kg over recent weeks. Will be looking to shave 3kg off in quick fashion.
How far should one be running for purposes of weight loss?
I am fairly certain everyone will naturally lose weight once this nightmare is over or at least the 'stay home' part of it is over.
That's what I'm banking on, anyway.
Control your diet. That's the biggest factor for weight loss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
Lost 9lbs in a week :D
Weight seems to have stabilised at 77kg. Mission accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
I lost a stone during lockdown which took me to just above 13 stone. Since I've been back at work its slowly creeping up so I've started tracking everything and limiting the drinking again.
Another month of eating well should hopefully see me drop down below 13.
Lost over a stone in lockdown, need to lose a lot more though. Keto diet is ok but think I am not getting the balance right for mega losses.
Anyone on a new year diet?
I'm using my fitness pal again. Tried it years ago and didn't think it was that great but it seems to be a lot better now. Everything I've scanned a barcode of so far has been found. Only a week in though so I'm sure I'll lose motivation in another week or two.
I am. I’m only drinking pilsners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I need to do this but I'm currently incapable. Take a decent meal away from me in the evenings and there's basically nothing left.
Compromising with chicken salads etc as if it's the summer but steak and chips is only ever a rumble of the stomach away.
I'm miserable enough and I don't fancy my chances of going to Croatia in May, so fuck going on a diet right now.
Make curries. Easy thing to make healthy if you can be bothered making them.
I was worried about this but I'm kind of finding that thinking about food, planning my dinner and cooking is giving me something else to focus on instead of just doomscrolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Plus, best time to do it if no one will see me for a while and I can emerge from the lockdown chrysalis a slimmer, sexier (slightly less fat) version of me. Also there's no going to restaurants or pubs anything to be tempted by high calorie food and drink.
They are the best to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Depends on the pilsner, but they’re definitely growing on me.
Down a stone in a month. Who knew actually tracking what you eat would work?
I started on Jan 4th and am down 22lbs so far. Aiming for 1400 calories per day, which is actually quite easy when you're avoiding drinking and snacking.
I've stopped drinking entirely in the week, and only having one or two on Fridays and Saturdays. I've started drinking a couple of Brewdog's alcohol free beers during the week, and they're fantastic. It's made the process a lot easier, and they're hardly any calories.
I started my diet in October and I've lost 2 stone so far overall (gained a bit over Christmas) and it's been fairly easy so far but I've hit a bit of a wall recently.
I am eating 2100 calories per day and usually burning 2500-2700 depending on work. Other than a couple of weeks in December I haven't drunk since the end of October. I do have one meal I don't track on a Saturday.
I'm 12 st 10 lbs and think I probably need to lose another 7lbs. Waiting for the days to get a bit nicer so I can start walking and jogging again to help with the weight loss. Hopefully I'll be able to lose that by the end of next month and start drinking again when the pubs open.
12 stone 10 is my goal weight. Long way to go though, I was 18 stone on January 1st. Heaviest I've ever been, other than a period around 2008 where I was even fatter but never weighed myself.
Down 2 stone 2 pounds now but it seems to be a bit slower. Scales haven't moved for the last couple of weeks. Although I did have three takeaways over the May Day bank holiday weekend when I got my first jab and felt like shit. But didn't actually gain anything that week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Got into a little routine of exercising at lunchtime now so hopefully that will help.
How are the rest of you getting on?
I'm up 4kg since I stopped watching what I was eating. It's been a good while now though so I'll forgive myself.
Oh God. Delete the thread.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SvN
Worse than January?
You must have been a right mound at five foot nothing. Are you still losing?
Yeah, I was. Still am just not as bad.
I am still fat, but a fair bit less fat. Lost about 10kg so far. Probably 15-20kg to go.
First time in my adult life I've managed to consistently lose weight so I'm pretty pleased. Especially given I'm on mirtazapine which is incredibly bad for increasing appetite.
Join Me, Boyd and Ben on the GAINZTRAIN.
I gain (and hold onto) muscle mass ridiculously easily; I honestly think I could end up inadvertently looking like some roid freak if I wasn't careful.
Even when I had ME and barely moved for a year I didn't lose much.
Perhaps I should be an astronaut.
Yeah yeah, sure you do.
'I don't want to get *too* shredded.'
Yes, I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Prove it then. Start lifting.
Unless you’re actually on gear then there’s no chance you can look too shredded or, especially, too muscular.
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-p...ebp&quality=75Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
:lol:
:D
I guess I should've seen this reaction coming but given I'm not remotely interested in getting BIG it didn't even register in my mind that it'd come across as bragging.
My bad I guess. But it is true.
I also get fat incredibly easily and am a fat mess currently.
You're not going to get BIG, you dickhead. That's what we're trying to tell you.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I'm sorry it makes you all so mad.
I get big/strong and fat easily. It's like a constant balancing act, but I can also not lift for weeks and go straight back to doing what I was, so I believe you mate.
Means a lot. BFFL.
In a cut for the ages I've dropped a stone in ten weeks. Woof.
I’m beginning a cut now. Been “bulking” for a strongman competition and ended up backing out because I’ve not committed to training due to having the baby so I want to get from 110kg to 100kg for Christmas.
Christ on a bike. How tall are you?
6’4”. 110kg isn’t heavy for me for strongman but I’m a novice. Was supposed to be my first comp.
A strongman on TTH.:cool: How far off are you from appearing on one of the TV shows?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
We should get him to lift Lofty.
Closest I’ve ever gotten and will ever get was row 2 at Sheffield Arena last year. You can see me very briefly behind Colin Bryce at one point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave.
Traps are already tickling my earlobes.
I got fat again but it's starting to come off now I've largely knocked the booze on the head.
This thread has been RESURRECTED!
Decided in mid-March that I don't want to be fat so I've been on a diet since then.
Started off just being eating healthy but not following any sort of diet. I then switched to intermittent fasting about a month ago and I'm enjoying it.
Lost 14KG so far (just over 2 stones) and I'm not missing anything when it comes to food. I was stuck at the 12KG mark for a week or two so switched my first meal (about 12pm) from a carb heavy meal to protein heavy meal and that has helped a lot.
Also cut down my Coke Zero consumption by at least 50%, I'm down to 1-3 cans (it's rarely 3 though) and I'm drinking a hell of a lot more water.
Haven't really done much exercise yet but I think I'll get a gym membership soon and use it to swim at the very least.
Go on lad.
Best of luck.
What's your goal weight 'how? What do you weigh now? Good work so far.
You're only in your 30's though aren't you? Easy money.
Not sure yet and far too much still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Do it properly or don't bother resurrecting the thread.
How much Coke Zero were you necking?
1.3-2.2L a day or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Why is Coke Zero bad for you?
Makes you more prone to type 2 diabetes (provokes similar responses to sugar). There's also some evidence linking them to fatty liver disease.
Good work Mahow, I have similarly been making efforts to be less if a chubber and I'm around the same as you down so far. Mostly just calorie counting but I'm upping my exercise again too.
Must be a fiver a day habit by the sounds of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
IF really is a cheat code.
Is that actually true? Any time I've ever looked into it the studies all seem to conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Surprisingly easy to adjust to as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
To be fair the evidence is poorer than I thought. The meta-analyses find correlation but recognise there's likely to be bias and the studies are generally of poor quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8402166/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7014832/
Super manageable. I've found it a great way to manipulate my sleep schedule also.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
You have to wonder how many kids have been getting the wrong treatment because their parents didn't request a quick Google to be sure.
I'd always google it first at work, dw mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Obvs you probably shouldn't be drinking litres of that crap every day anyway, tbf. I generally stick to one can a day with dinner these days. Maybe two cans on the weekends when I'm going a bit wild.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
SSRIs and insulin resistance, now, that's another story. I was always fucking hungry on that sertraline shit.
Has TTH got any fatties left that don't feel suitably ashamed of themselves? I don't wish to take all the credit but I've been doing the dirty work on here for far too long.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyGZbLMW...g&name=900x900
Naturally most studies are going to set calories at 1:1 which is why there's little evidence of its effectiveness. But IFs main benefit is that it effectively eliminates a meal and snack time's worth of calories because most people who do it aren't going to make up for that missed meal by eating two meals when they're allowed to eat. It's just a calorie reduction system, really, but you can still eat good food instead of the other bobbins going about like Slimming World.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
The thing I've always taken from intermittent fasting is your consciously aware of what you're not eating so you're making an active decision to try and change your lifestyle. That's usually most of the battle - making a change in habit.
Impressive work 'how.
I never have breakfast (unless I'm on holiday), so I've been Intermittent Fasting since before it was cool.
It definitely works, but I can’t recommend highly enough adding some exercise once you’re down to a respectable weight.
So on IF do you still have 2000 calories of food just in an 8 hour window?
IF is simply defined eating windows. It can range from 12 hours fasting (12:12) to 16:8 to one meal a day. You could add calorie restrictions to that aswell if you wanted to, but it's not part of it per se.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
That's why scientific evidence surrounding it is sketchy. If you eat 2000 in 8 hours vs. 2000 in 24 hours, it's still 2000 calories, so the difference is negligible, if at all. By restricting your eating window, if you're not meticulously tracking calories, you're naturally going to consume less. So while IF definitely works for weight loss with a lot of people, it's probably not for the reasons they think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Especially if you are losing a lot of fat and want to make sure you tighten the skin rather than have droopiness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
The same is true for Keto and probably other diets too. For all the talk of Ketosis and Autophagy and blahblahblah, the main thing going on is that it’s hard to hit 2000 calories when you can't eat pastry, potato, pasta, rice, etc and you're calling cheese on crushed cauliflower "pizza".Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Exactly. I tried keto for a while about a decade ago. Fucking hard work getting my 2800 maintenance calories, no matter how much I love steak and eggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
The conversation was about whether diet drinks/artificial sweeteners are linked to type 2 diabetes not about IF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Calorie counting is crap.
Get some Tim Spector in your lives and reap the benefits.
Make your own own food
DonÂ’t eat stuff out of individual packets
Eat vegetables, lots of them
Extra virgin olive oil
Exercise
Life really is as simple as that.
I don't know who Tim Spector is but I don't think he invented healthy eating tbh
Wasn't he the guy who was the face of that Zoe COVID map? Depends on your goals but calorie counting is most definitely not crap if you need to refine your weight gain/loss alongside a dedicated gym routine.
It's been helpful for me so far. Mostly just as a method of keeping myself in check rather than the minutiae of it being particularly relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Calorie counting essentially means you can eat whatever and lose weight if you stick to your targets. A college professor in the states did it eating all processed crap to prove you could lose weight in deficit. Obviously there are other issues with it but purely on the maths calorie deficit = loss (unless you have a health condition that screws that).
No, it's just a fancy way of saying you're starving yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
At least that's what I thought it was anyway.
I think some people take IF to the extreme and they do starve themselves.
I'm on the 16:8 and I wouldn't consider that starving yourself. I don't feel hungry late at night and I generally only get hungry about an 30-60 minutes before my meal times.
I was pretty much doing 2 meals a day anyway but I was snacking a lot, especially late at night which I've obviously stopped doing.
I've even shifted my times around on some days when I needed to. For instance I drove with family to Belgium for a night and ended up eating on day at 7am and then again at 3:30pm (UK times) and I was fine.
Fasting is starving yourself, it's just that IF falls on the mild end of the spectrum. There are ALOT of people with eating disorders that started out on Intermittent Fasting and progressed onto longer fasts. As with anything, there is an awful lot of bullshit on Social Media about this stuff and it can and does get taken to extremes.
Yeah, I've done 60 hour fasts before. Once you get an app and start chasing numbers, who knows where you'll end up.
In terms of being aware of what you’re eating it can definitely be beneficial, like a food diary type thing. But calculating that one meal is 300 calories when it could well be 200 or 500, depending on various factors, is a bit pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
You're not doing it on a one meal basis though are you? You'd be setting yourself day a 2000 calorie limit every day and while calories on the nutritional info on food packaging isn't always 100% accurate you'd be assuming those inaccuracies even out. And if you're not losing at 2000 a day you can go down to 1800 a day and see what hapoens etc. Calorie counting does work.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Just because you are calorie counting doesn’t mean you’re eating a healthy diet.
A calorie isn’t just a calorie - intake and BMR will vary wildly from person to person and from food type to food type. Genetics also play a big role. Just because there are 100 calories in meal 1 doesn’t mean your body has consumed 100 calories from that meal. It’s an inherently flawed idea. It works to a point because it’s restrictive in nature, but long term I bet people aren’t keeping the weight off. Hence why this thread is at page 14.
Hit me up with some studies, RL.
Take it to the Conspiracy thread lad.
I asked AI about intermittent fasting and it’s come up with a plan to fit around my day:
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I do a rough version of that anyway, only with more snacks, so I might try to be stricter and follow this.
That's what a Big Calorie shill would say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
That's more because people don't stick to it because ultimately the sort of person who just likes eating crisps all the time probably don't have the motivation/ discipline / whatever to keep it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Saying "don't follow diet plans just exercise more and eat better" isn't going to work any more than telling somebody who's depressed to try looking on the bright would. If the people doing it were tedium junkies who love jogging and kale they wouldn't be trying to lose weight.
Boxers and bodybuilders use calorie tracking and macro's to play their bodies like a fiddle. They would not be able to achieve their goals by following whatever Tim Spector has been trotting out.
"What do you mean I'm overweight? I haven't eaten anything from a packet!"
No one claimed that!Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Sure, yeah, but your body isn't magicking up an extra 200 calories from that 100 calories you consumed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Let's look at your advice above:
All good advice, sure but you could easily go over your calorie limit for a day making your own fresh food, not from packets with a lot of vegetables especially if you're chucking a load of olive oil on there. Especially if you're a short arse like me. Now, 3,000 calories of fresh home-cooked meat, veg, carbs and fats are gonna be a lot better for you than 3,000 calories a day of McDonald's but you're still gonna gain weight if you're only burning off 2,500 calories a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
Also, humans are weak and we're constantly bombarded with advertising for foods that are engineered to be tasty. We're going to give in sometimes. It's good to know "oh, theres 200 calories in this chocolate bar, I can fit that into my allowance for the day" or whatever. Are you telling me Tim Spector never has a fucking biscuit?
He makes his own olive oil and courgette biscuits.
Dun Dun Dun Dun Dun Tim Spector Gadget.
I didn't keep mine off because I had a couple of unrelated health scares when I was at my fittest, so realised I was just wasting my time being miserable eating leaves and exercising. The big man could come any day for any of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
I thought intermittent fasting was how Multi used to do it, i.e. only eating during a very narrow window - say an hour directly after working out - like a wild animal might. An eight hour window isn't any sort of anything bearing in mind you're asleep for half of the remaining hours, and then presumably busy during the others.
After all this I stepped on the scales this morning and I really need to drop about a stone before our holiday in October. Taz, come fatshame me for motivation.
Starting with an impromptu 24hr fast. Had dinner last night at 7, not eating again until the same time tonight. We move.
You think The Rock will buy Southend when he discovers their devoted fans are a load of wobblers? Get it sorted mate, you don't want to be the one who stops the dream coming true.
Not eating for 24 hours is a great start, usually step 1 for most of these cunts is not eating every 2 hours for which they demand a medal for their bravery.
Are you calorie counting? I hear measuring your intake of food by a definite magnitude of a quantity and restricting said magnitude prevents weight-gain. It's pretty high level stuff though so I'll wait for Giggles to confirm the science and list the key exempting factors (age, hairs on knuckles, lunar cycle etc).
I'll be doing 20:4 after today, probably 2 meals within the 4 hours. I should be back to a healthy weight in 2 or 3 weeks.
If you eat them upside down.
2 meals in 4 hours?
Someone get that bravery medal ready.
Huberman has done a IF deep dive. Will consume this weekend.
I had a share bag of Haribo twin snakes and two sausage rolls for my dinner. :stamford:
I'm back on MFP and looking to drop 10kg before August 15th. The motivation levels are high and everything is aligning after a rough first half of the year, so it's go time.
How was the long walk?
Strained ACL prevented training so had to shelf that idea. I forgot its tomorrow, actually, so if I wake up at 2am, as I have been recently, I might give it a bash.
Ah, thought it was last weekend as that's when it was here. 2am, christ, is that when it gets going? Almost worth just going straight from the pub.
Starts at 3, yeah. All because one person usually finishes at midnight.
Twin snakes are so good. As are the sour sharks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
Anyone doing IF, what are you eating for your first meal of the day?
I used to eat a bowl of nutty muesli with loads of fruit but changed to vegetable scrambled eggs and the protein heavy seems to work best for me. I am now a little bored of the same thing day after day so want to try something new for a bit to change it up.
Any suggestions?
Yoghurt with fruit/nuts/seeds in summer, porridge in winter. You have enough room to customise with different toppings to not get bored. Nothing wrong with eggs and other cooked stuff if prepped properly I'm sure but they're not at the level of the former.
I am trying to stay under 2000 calories a day, doing some basic weight training in addition to walking the dog three times a day but weight loss is more important than muscle gain for now so I think deficit is the best way to go, happy to be advised otherwise.
My main advantage with this is I am a monotonous slave to routine, pre covid it used to be a joke in the office that you could set your watch by my actions, time I had lunch etc. I also don't mind eating the same or similar meals every day.
So far today had porridge with blueberries, apple and honey (and a pinch of cinammon) for breakfast and seasoned chicken breast with rice, broccolli and carrots for lunch. Apple chaser, 946 calories for the day so far and only one meal remaining.
Main challenge this week is I have to go into the office for a meeting on Thursday for the first time in ages, but there should be no reason I can't take my usual lunch. I just have to resist temptation whilst there (office tuck shop and canteen on site).
Sub 2000 at your height? You’ll look like a bookies pen in no time.
I have been doing One Meal A Day since Thursday and it really is piss easy. I'm already half a stone down. Might keep it going and see if I can bring some abs to the gun show.
Alright for a runt like you, I get hungry I want to murder people.
You work on the trains, you have access to plenty of homeless people. Do what you gotta do.
I'm hammering exercise so struggling to keep calories down, but I'm at least 1k cal in defecit each day. Three hours cycling today and a swim plus a little trek on the cliff paths coming up after this post. I utilised flexi time nicely today and will to continue outside of Bay Capital annual general meeting days. Cycle and swim on lunch. :drool:
I'm hoping I can start to starve myself in a week once my body realises carbs are old news.
MFP and Google Fit both seem utterly mental in their calorie loss calculations. I'm enjoying the idea of being in 3k calorie defecit but I'm not having it. Guess the scales will reveal all.
Nutracheck is superior to MFP for food-logging, I've found. It's 20 quid or so for a year's subscription but most of MFP's good stuff (barcode scanner) is behind a paywall now anyway.
Barcode scanner ain't behind a pay wall for me. The food logging is fine anyway. It's the 600 cal/h for cycling and hiking I'm not having.
It's Nutracheck I've been using but I haven't been logging my exercise, I didn't know how accurate any of that stuff is and didn't want to start using exercise as an excuse to eat more while I'm still porky.
Calorie burn estimates for exercise are usually a load of bollocks. I wouldn't trust them at all.
Yeah just log the food intake ignore any burnt calories. They give people false hope. Remember those posters used to say you had to do 40 minutes spinning to burn off a sausage roll? Now these apps are bullshitting people they can walk off a mars bar in 15 minutes.
Definitely don't take any notice of "calories burnt" on those apps. Pick what you think is right (eg. 500 calorie deficit per day equals one pound weight loss per week) then adjust accordingly from there.
I'm not relying on it by any means but it still helps me keep things in check. I aim for double what my MFP goal is as it won't go higher than 1kg, but it's also nice to see a 3k defecit and know you'll be alright.
First day back in the gym this morning too. Just did a few gentle all round workout to ease any DOMS in but thank fuck I've got an 80kg tyre back in my life. Nearly chucked up after two minutes. :drool:
The fitness app on the iPhone is bad for being overzealous with kcals burned. It has me burning 900-1200 a day just walking 12-15000 steps whereas others are half that
Yeah walking on a Fitbit versa 2 for an hour consistently thinks I'm burning 500 calories which is the equivalent of me doing hiit. I don't think so.
Got a GP exercise referral the other day after requesting it.
Went to the gym today and I've got a consultation next week then will be paying £28 a month (their cheapest packages are usually £33) and I believe I get a trainer/fitness programme to help me out.
Weight loss seems to have stagnated the last few days and I seem to be locked at 15kg loss so the exercise regime will help a lot.
A few days is nothing, don’t worry. You can afford to give it a couple of weeks before thinking you need to change up. Weight loss isn’t linear.
So I had my induction at the gym.
My exercise co-ordinator (I think that's her role) seems quite nice. She asked a lot of questions about why I want to be in the gym etc etc. I will have a plan drawn up by her (she mentioned cardio, strength and then finishing with cardio when I workout) and then in 6 weeks we will meet up again and review how I've fared.
I also went on a machine that told me I am 79.2KG of MUSCLE (fuck you Randrew, I'll get more hench then you) but my body fat % is at 43.8 which obviously isn't great.
I'm not allowed to use the actual gym equipment until next week when I have a second induction but I am able to use the pool.
Also, I've managed to knock off another 2KG which takes me to 17 in total.
Not allowed to use the equipment? Lol wot. You’re an adult ffs
Well done Mahow. Big step, that.
Cardio strength cardio is shit advice.
It's probably worth doing an all body workout with some supersets in there. You can always mix up a heavyish lift with a quick blast of cardio (15 calories on a bike/rower/ski) and get good results without being bored by a cardio only exercise.
Apparently I need to be shown how to use it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Didn't stop them taking payment today though, obviously.
"We can't have you going off on your own. What if you hurt yourself?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
:D wut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
The PT package they're going to bankrupt you with is going to be glorious.
Gyms always pull that shit. I am on day three of progressive overload tomorrow, the main one I struggle to get sets out with is the Arnold Press. Also going on the piss tomorrow afternoon which will erase any muscle growth. Hoping I can hit my target of another 1lb lost when I wake up tomorrow. Been in a rut where I keep lossing and gaining the same half a stone so want to breakthrough.
Wife has procured a DDPY set of videos etc so might give that a go too, pretend it's the heyday of RAW :D
So the marathon training is going well. But, it’s made me realise I probably need to start eating better if I’m training. The past few weeks I’ve been eating any old shit I want and still losing weight but as I’m doing longer runs more often now I’m finding the my energy levels can be very up and down which is an issue.
Did 1km in the pool today.
Hardest swim I've done as I haven't swam in years and haven't done that much in about a decade.
Arms are dead.
Had my induction yesterday and we went through my routine albeit truncated just to show me how things work and if I need to adjust shit.
Just finished my first full session and I'm partially dead. I've produced so much swea.
So sweaty you can't type properly, real effort. Been weighing every day since I know my mate who had results with a PT does that, 9lbs down since I started. Reluctant to spend tomorrow on the piss and gain it all back now :uhoh:
My eyes were filled with sweat.
I’m a sweaty mess in the gym too mahow, don’t worry about it.
Just keep at it and it’ll become routine. Once it’s routine you’ll start to enjoy it.
I've never managed to get a point where I enjoy it, even when I've done weeks of multiple days to try and make it become routine or get "hooked" on it as so many exercise bods have told me I will. I think it's just nature's gym freaks assuming everybody will love it like they do if they just stick at it.
It’s just finding something for you. My cardiovascular fitness is abysmal but whatever I do to go about improving that, I just can’t find that enjoyment, apart from swimming.
Similarly weightlifting, I just don’t understand those who can do a billion reps of bench or curls. The only thing that gets my enjoyment up in the gym is going heavy.
I did actually find some enjoyment in it yesterday.
When I was on the treadmill I found myself lolling at a poser who kept doing reps in front of a mirror and then stopping to fix his hair and take some selfies.
I don't enjoy it at the time, but I do enjoy the buzz afterwards.
Christ I was just trying to give him some motivation. :D
I’ll try again. It becomes great, you will love it! Losing weight is just an added benefit.
Although getting old can fuck off. Everything hurts.
Cardio at the gym will never be fun. Just lift weights and continue your swimming and try get 10k steps in through the day. (Imo)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I didn't mind the cardio I've been assigned tbh. It went pretty fast with my headphones in listening to music whilst watching a bit of Wimbledon.
The routine I've been set is: 5m on the rowing machine, 10m on a bike, 3 x 10 reps on chest press, 3 x 10 on low row, 3x 10 on shoulder press 5m on TOP (like an arm cycling thing) and then 10m on treadmill.
It's been set by my fitness instructor and it's also taking into account my shitty left ankle (chiropodist thinks I sprained my ankle years ago and it didn't properly heal so it's weak as fuck and I've even sprained it whilst sleeping).
You might as well just go for a decent walk every day whilst the sun is out (ideally first thing in the morning if your schedule allows). Start with an hour, build up to three over a couple of months. It will be easier on your ankle, and the weight you're at it would melt off.
That PT is casually stealing a living.
What is m here? Minutes? Miles? Metres?
I'd go with minutes.
Shindig is correct.
I don’t recommend 2 weeks of All Inclusive before going to a wedding. Got 4 days to shed the 1st5 I’ve put on :lol:
A lot of it will be water weight, but still. Cba
:D that's a strong effort.
I went into holiday mode 3 weeks ago tomorrow and had a few night outs before the holiday itself so it’s basically been 3 weeks on beers, cocktails and 3 course meals for lunch and tea most days.
Bulk szn
I think I'm eating too few calories.
I get bouts of feeling faint now and then, the occasional dizzy spell and I'm always seriously tired around 3-4pm.
I think the two meals I'm eating are sufficient but I need to incorporate a good snack I feel. Other than nuts anyone got any suggestions?
Just deal with it and keep moving.
Fridge raidersQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
So far I have lost 13lbs, weighing every day I see the fluctuation and am not as irked by it as it goes up and down. The best loss I have managed consistently in years and whilst I need to lose more it's a nice start.
Inflammation is the real demon once you're at a decent level. I find cutting carbs makes a huge difference.
I've been focusing on the time of day that I'm eating. I used to be terrible for sugary snacks after dinner, but it's been four weeks now of eating nothing else after dinner. Hasn't made a huge weight difference but psychologically I know that I don't need to eat something unhealthy at that time, which is huge for me. Years of bad habits built up.
My other difficult time of day is between 3-6/whenever dinner is, as I will just stuff my face with crap. Potentially that got worse as, in my head, I wouldn't have that stuff after dinner so I could eat it before. So now, between 3-6 I'll allow myself fruit or veg but that's it. Day two and it's definitely harder than giving up the crap in the evening. Will get trickier when I go back to work too I think, but I've got 6 weeks to get into this routine.
8 days til I'm away.
3.2kg off pre-Christmas weight.
It shall be done.
I hit 30kg total lost today :cool:
Easily the most I've ever lost and I really think it's going to stick. Still no cravings for crap and I'm still happy going to the gym a lot.
Good shit. Well done.
What do you weigh now, 'how?
30kg? That's incredible.
135.5KG so I've still got a long way to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
That's still great progress. You've lost 1 Chinese gymnast.
Excellent work. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I'm at 4st 5 which Google tells me is under 28kb so you're outdoing me.
Mahow you used to do 2-3 litres of Coke or some shit, no? Did you cut that all out? Also, what led to this beside wanting my acceptance?
About that a day of Coke Zero, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
I still allow myself a can a day or two on the weekends.
I was sick with COVID in March and it fucked my appetite for a few weeks, thought I might as well run with it and it's been easier than I thought.
Well in, son.
I’ve done two 24 hour fasts this week, one accidentally and one intentionally, and it’s pretty easy now. Probably helps that I’m very inactive, and don’t particularly enjoy food, but I reckon I could live off one meal a day most days.
Some days I can manage putting off breakfast but other days I think I would quite easily beat someone to death if I didn't eat something.
Not enjoying food, jeez, that's the dream. For me it's like crack, sex and booze all rolled into one delicious plateful.
Not enjoying food sounds depressing as fuck. It's one of life's great pleasures.
A symptom rather than a cause.
Probably. I don’t really enjoy anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
This ain't the first time you've said it, get a GP referral for a therapist, Men's Mental Health matters.
Why, do they offer free childcare?
If anyone wants cheap Myfitnesspal premium.
Just change your location to Turkey in app, then go to the website to buy premium. It will show 130 Turkish Lira for a year which is £3.48.
Don't even need a VPN.
You can’t barcode scan with the free version anymore? What a racket.
You can.
No macro breakdown is why I paid.
Lost 2 stone as of today, plenty left to shift though my wedding ring is a bit loose on my finger which is unexpected.
Well in Lofty.
Keep it up, lad.
After years of just lifting weights and otherwise being a lazy twat, I've decided to take up running again instead. My old chest issues cropped straight back up though (tightness after a few minutes) so I've gone full Klopp and got me one of them bad boy steroid inhalers from the GP.
I started trying to run again recently. Back to couch to 5k. Got to the end of week 1 and had quite a lot of ankle pain. Went to a physio to see about it and he said I've got flat feet. Told me to get orthotics (insoles with arch support for the unaware - I didn't know either). Got some and wore them for a bit when just walking around to see if they helped and they just gave me foot pain in a different place. Fuck's sake.
Yep, I've got flat feet too. Stick with the insoles, they're weird as fuck at the beginning but they really do help.
Ankle pain > knee pain > hip pain > back pain > neck pain, a lot of it comes from the feet up.
Do you use them?
It feels like they make me walk on the outside of my foot so the outer edge gets very sore.
They also make all my trainers feel too tight now. Maybe need a new pair a half size up.
Yeah I use them, but less and less in recent years as they've done their main job in realigning me. I now only wear them for long walks or other times I feel I could do with extra support.
My flat feet caused my ankles to roll in-over and toes to point outwards when I walked, and the insoles corrected that to a large degree. It took a long time (years) but my posture has been improved immensely by them.
I tried using the insoles for a bit but I hated them, made me walk funny and they were a bit painful.
I've still got a chronic ankle sprain (in addition to slightly flat feet) which seemed to be sorted until the last week or so when I decided to start walking. Was just out for a walk now and at around 5k steps it started pulsating so I came home rather than going for a bit longer.
Saw an NHS physio about it, he gave me exercises to do for 5 weeks which didn't help and said he'd refer me to another physio who could do actual treatment for me but I've heard absolute nothing since.
I went through a few types to find something that worked and was relatively comfortable.
Probably spent about £100 eventually but your feet are the only things that touch the ground so don't cheap out (or on shoes either).
I'm pretty sure my feet don't roll in though. The outside of my shoes always wears down first and there's not much wear on the inside. I mentioned this to the physio but he reckoned it was my body having adapted to my flat feet and the insoles would stop that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
I dunno. I might go to a running shop for gait analysis to see what they say. I just want to be able to run and and have my shit cardiovascular system be the only limiting factor, not some dodgy feet/ankle. Getting old is shit. :(
I'm no expert but maybe the physio is of the opinion that all flat feet people should have insoles (to "force" the arch). Not sure it's such a cut-and-dry solution so get a second opinion. Like you say, running shop is probably your best option, they're always really good.
Cheers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I wear Sketchers Arch Fit like a pensioner these days, it's not fashionable but any of my nice shoes leave me crippled after any intensive use.
I've been using Skechers GOWALK6 and they were good to start but I've worn them down so much in less than year.
I've got a pair of Skechers that I bought last year that happened to have some arch support thing in them. They are very comfy but the built in insoles in the heels of them have worn away quite quickly. So like the insole is still there for the rest of my foot but not my heel.
Just get a set of trainers with excellent arch support and cushioning and forget about insoles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I have fallen arches and have been recommended insoles at times, but my current go to shoes deal with the issue by themselves.
Brooks Adrenaline GTS - I buy the new model each year.
Got the gait analysis done today. I don't pronate or supinate, I'm pretty neutral. My heels don't really touch the ground when running though. The guy recommended a neutral shoe with good cushioning all through the shoe and not just at the heel. Ended up getting a pair of Brooks Glycerin 21s.
£165 :cry:
They better turn me into Mo Farah.