September kickball: The RESPECT edition

A little late, but whatever. At least it's in time for the international break, everybody's favourite part of the season.

Coming up this month we have MK Dons and Wimbledon being chippy at each other, the MAGIC OF THE CUP returns as qualifying rounds are under way with glamour ties such as Thatcham vs. Salisbury, the first every women's Manchester Derby (I think?) and the Champions League group stages are BACK to be mostly a bit dull.

Meanwhile, in Italy, Inter Milan fans have said that unlike other countries Italy doesn't have a racism problem and Cagliari fans are only doing monkey chants because they respect black players so damn much.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49576840

Yeah, I was going to start something with the Inter fans as the theme. Fucking mental.

You have to understand that Italy is not like many other north European countries where racism is a real problem

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Also, are there random AFCON games going on during the week after this international window? Soccerway seems to think so, are they mistaken?

Also if a modmin could change the poll title so it doesn't have that stray 'l' in front of 'show' that'd be grand.

Done

I liked it, felt a bit like the question was mocking the way a foreign might speakadeeinglish.

I had 'It was an inverted "Mobot"' ready to go as my excuse for racially abusing Danny Welbeck (should the opportunity ever have arisen), but they might have topped that.

For anyone interested, I finished that group prediction league table thingy.

I would like to see players from both teams, if a player suffers racist abuse. To walk off the field and refuse to play the game.

That will never happen though.

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I would like to see players from both teams, if a player suffers racist abuse. To walk off the field and refuse to play the game.

That will never happen though.

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It's astonishing that a team hasn't walked off yet. I'd like to think that if i heard a teammate receiving racist abuse, I would take my team off.

Did you read what the fan group said though? They weren't being racist, in Italy things are different.

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Yup. Incredible stuff. The Italian FA aren't going to do anything meaningful, the fans clearly dont care - so unfortunately, it's down to the players to act.

Hold hands, and just walk off. If players can produce tears, even better.

Didn't we already have a player cry because of it?

While it’s great that Parrot has the chance of more senior action by making the Tottenham European squad, have they really gone a whole summer and left him as the only other striker after Kane?

They have Son who is a pretty able deputy.

And Moura.

International football already? Ugh.

Emre Can excluded from Juve's Champions League squad. He seems royally pissed off about it too.

Horrible little rat.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38468944.html

He's like the third Gallagher brother.

Whatever about anyone else the Walters "crying on TV about his family" shows what a cretin he is. He's a publicity whore no matter how much he denies it, so shit like is an attempt to stay relevant because he has no future in management.

The best part about that article was him accusing Walters of living off things he did ages ago, as if Keane has done anything of note since about 2002. He's fucking hateful.

He's been having a fresh go at Ferguson today too, so as you say he must have felt the media offers beginning to get a bit thin on the ground and he's doing a bit of shouting to remind people he exists.

Thailand-Vietnam just kicked off in the world cup qualifier. #MekongDerby

Up the Nam.

And vaguely related to the thread sponsor, Paddy Power Esq makes a good point regarding the fine Huddersfield have been hit with for that stupid kit they wore in a friendly in the summer. £50k for that, £10k for racist chanting. Priorities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49591125

Kompany on the money with this.

Started kicking off tonight in the Indonesia 2-3 Malaysia. Big rivals. 60,000 fans :drool

https://www.facebook.com/39310127103...4952/?sfnsn=mo

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The best part about that article was him accusing Walters of living off things he did ages ago, as if Keane has done anything of note since about 2002. He's fucking hateful.

He's been having a fresh go at Ferguson today too, so as you say he must have felt the media offers beginning to get a bit thin on the ground and he's doing a bit of shouting to remind people he exists.

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When you see it, you’d near pity him if he wasn’t such known vermin. And the amount of wankers lapping it up too.

https://youtu.be/rJysMDzt6rQ

He’s about as Irish as GS but Callum Robinson is a fairly tidy player.

And now he’s taken him off and left McClean on :face:

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He’s class.

Shame he’s mates with Ravel Morrison.

Could easily be 3 or 4 now they’ve finally hit the target.

That’s daylight robbery of a point.

You just expect someone to sing '5 Gold Rings' in the middle of the Dutch national anthem.

And an Eric Cantona.

That’s some nice work from Aaron Connolly.

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I watched that Roy Keane thing in full, and it nicely shows why 1) he's a massive United legend; and 2) he won't ever be a decent manager.

As someone, I can’t recall, said on the radio earlier he’s built a persona and is desperately trying to stay fitting into it now. He’s some fucking neck talking about commitment though.

Whether or not he's into rent-a-quote territory, I don't think it's a persona. That story about him drunkenly coating off half the Liverpool team in the nineties would suggest he's always been like this.

I could do with him not telling everyone to get over everything he's ever said/done to them when he's still moaning about sleights that pre-date the Good Friday Agreement.

Can't remember when it was but someone said Roy Keane loves football but hates footballers which seems bang on and why he'll never succeed.

He'd probably have more success and a happier life moving back to Cork and coaching the local kids.

Eto'o has retired.

I forgot Ryan Giggs managed Wales. Kind of explains why they're struggling to knock off the likes of Azerbaijan.

England side is lol. It's so far off what you'd think was optimal that Southgate's surely just fucking about.

Yeah, I was looking at the line-up and thinking it was alarmingly shit. Not much quality on show. The defence in particular.

He seems to have a proper hard on for Trippier which is weird.

It makes sense that Maguire has yet to play in the Champions League, but I still bumped into it when voiceover man said it there the way a toe bumps into a table.

Roy fucking Keane on the coverage. Hopefully he chokes to death live at half time.

This new goal kick rule has just been brought in for a laugh hasn't it?

Javi Gracia has been sacked by Watford.

What is the point in Ross Barkley?

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English Zidane, MATE.

Somehow, we managed to lose to Kosovo. Nice.

What’s the new goal kick rule?

A teams own players can be in the box during a goal kick and the 'keeper can pass to them. The opposition can't enter the box until the ball is played.

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Javi Gracia has been sacked by Watford.

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And reappointed Flores. :cab:

Bizarre. Gracia did a good job last season. They've chucked him because they're bottom after four games, but they've looked alright tbh. Their problem is that the defence is championship standard.

Does a bad 4 game run mean an automatic sacking then?

I thought for Watford having racked up 365 days as manager was enough.

Well before Newcastle where we stole a draw, we actually lost 7 games in a row against premier league opposition. Since the fa cup semi final we only beat a terrible, relegated Huddersfield side.

This season we have been pretty awful despite what Dino says. I've had the displeasure of watching every game. We had our moments in the games against West Ham and Everton but when you look like conceding every time the opposition is on attack and don't fix the same mistakes it is hard to say 'we've looked alright'

The crux of the issue as it is with most sackings it the inability to change. Using the same players in the same formation and ignoring other players who have been screaming out for minutes. I've been frustrated with him since April but was on the fence about the sacking until the Newcastle game. We went up there and timewasted from the first minute. We left deulofeu, sarr and welbeck on the bench and gave 5 minutes in total to them despite them being fit enough to play in the week. It was a mess and a case of a manager who has completely lost his way and run out of ideas. Newcastle are terrible, they looked awful and were there for a straightforward 3 points. Only then was I confident he should leave.

Granted our defence is championship standard at best. It has been neglected since the first season in the Prem and it is ridiculous how little we spend on it. Dawson is the latest penny pinching signing and has looked the championship level defender we signed.

The same old 'watford sacking their managers regularly thing' is as tired as hell nowadays. Have a look how many managers we have had compared with other teams who are a similar level since returning to the premier league. We are not abnormal, teams like Palace and Southampton sack their managers with far more regularity. It's actually a decent yardstick for Watford fans, anyone that mentions that doesn't actually know anything about the club.

Resigning QSF is lol though. Watford have always felt like they have a direction since the Pozzos took over. This appointment, I'm not so sure. He played terrible football last time but had far worse midfield and attacking options so we will see. He organizes a defence far better than Gracia ever will be able to but he is potentially more stubborn and certainly isn't as good with the players. Add to that he probably has a worse back 4 than last time he was here (which is unforgivable by the Watford heirarchy) and he may be in for a tough time. Our midfield would suggest we are 'too good to go down'. I'm not so sure, I hope QSF does a good job.

My brother in law has paid to go to both of these Scotland games, poor sod.

Danny Jamesbeck scored another cracker. United's best left-sided player. :drool:

Hourihane at left back?


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Not seen that before.

Hopefully it’s not his only plan B for Stevens missing the Georgia game.

I couldn't tell you who any of them play for.

I have Bournemouth, Villa, Don’t know (Burnley?), Sheffield Utd, Don’t know (Boro or Fulham?), Charlton, Preston, Portsmouth, Don’t know (Bristol City?), Don’t know (not even a guess), Villa.

Also, Troy Fucking Parrott :cool:

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Walters should have just taken the head off him there and then.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/jo...y-keane-206042

Our defence is absolutely atrocious. Catastrophically bad.

Goal of the century from Alan Browne.

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Kosovo's results in the Nations league made me think they're good value.

Maguire is so stupid, it's painful.

I never seen James Collins before but he looks like he should be on the way to Japan with the egg chasers. Mountain of a lad.

I absolutely love this Kosovo team. Brilliant addition to European football.

After all of the wanking the media has been doing over Harry "Best penalty taker in the world" Kane over the last few days, that was the most predictable miss of all time.

Maddison called up and doesn’t play a minute :cab: the lad is absolute quality.

Maybe it signals true BIG TIME status as me and a lot of Leicester fans I know are more pleased with no minutes in the legs for one of our stars than being slighted that guys like Barkley and Mount get preferred over our boy.

This game has been mental. I almost want it to end 5-5. How they didn't score there I don't know.

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Maddison called up and doesn’t play a minute :cab: the lad is absolute quality.

Maybe it signals true BIG TIME status as me and a lot of Leicester fans I know are more pleased with no minutes in the legs for one of our stars than being slighted that guys like Barkley and Mount get preferred over our boy.

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Apparently Madison is an absolute cunt. Maybe he laughed at Southgate's waistcoat.

The beast got a nice one in the finish up.

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He’s sound, mate

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From what I've heard I'd imagine you would like him, yes.

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Is Magic alive?

According to his social media, he is.

Speaking of social media, honoured to have been invited to Igor’s Leaving do he set up on Facebook.

What's he leaving?

Moving to Norwich or something

A wake then.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...mstring-injury

That's gotta be a first right.

:lol:

Shearer was crocked for his testimonial, but he limped on and bobbled in an injury time penalty from what I recall.

lol at 'Manchester City Legends'. It makes me think of this.

They should stop doing testimonials. The players don't need the money anymore (I was under the impression that Matt Le Tissier ruined it for everyone giving his to charity, but apparently not [unless he had two?]), and charities probably only end up with about a fiver once all the costs are accounted for (and even then they could all just chuck money in and save regular saddos the expense).

Theo Walcott didn't even get his, the chump.

Once Ashley Young gets one we can call it off tbh

There should be some type of all-star game every year though. Or even better, Best of South America vs Best of Europe like they used to have back in pro evo 2

International football is kinda like an All-Star game it's just divided by country rather than league (though i understand what you mean)

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There should be some type of all-star game every year though. Or even better, Best of South America vs Best of Europe like they used to have back in pro evo 2

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The Pro Evo with Adriano on the cover had the best mode ever. You chose 4 teams and it would give you a random amalgamation of 25 players to build a team out of. If one of them brought that back I might buy it.

They brought the Random Selection stuff back a couple of years ago.

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There should be some type of all-star game every year though. Or even better, Best of South America vs Best of Europe like they used to have back in pro evo 2

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A game for nothing in which nobody would want to play, it would be like every third place playoff ever.

How are Scotland so dreadful? They should at least be on the level of the two Irelands, but they're absolute shite. Is it just inept management? Are they ever going to be half-decent again?

Atleast Ireland has the excuse that it isn't their main sport.

I think it's a bit Aston Villa/Sunderland, the core is so rotten that it doesn't matter who you put in the team or how they line up. They're beaten before they even come out.

Olly McBurnie isn't some flash luxury player that doesn't like to graft and even he thinks it's beneath him. There's got to be something wrong at the FA level.

Neither us, NI, or Scotland have any talent but the first two make up for it in a limited way with a bit of heart and backbone.

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Atleast Ireland has the excuse that it isn't their main sport.

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Both of them probably. NI are mostly only dealing with half a population with the other half playing our national sport too.

I used to go to Highland Games quite a lot and Scots would even lose at that to the visiting Australians and Canadians. Winning just isn't in their nature.

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I think it's a bit Aston Villa/Sunderland, the core is so rotten that it doesn't matter who you put in the team or how they line up. They're beaten before they even come out.

Olly McBurnie isn't some flash luxury player that doesn't like to graft and even he thinks it's beneath him. There's got to be something wrong at the FA level.

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The SFA are absolute jokers which doesn’t help. They have enough decent players but the lack of centre halves or striker doesn’t help much. Ryan Fraser, Andy Robertson, Kieran Tierney, Scott McTominay, John McGinn, James Forrest, Ryan Christie and even Olly McBurnie are all good players for their teams at a decent level. The talent is much better than it has been recently.

Billy Gilmour could have done with being a defender rather than an another midfield player for when he breaks through.

I never understand how Tom Cairney doesn’t ever get a game. He’s miles better than most of the dross that gets a Scotland call up.

True but then they’re not short on players in that position. John McGinn walks into most teams after all.

Valencia have sacked Marcelino, with Barcelona at the weekend and Chelsea next week.

Has anyone tried Premier Sports and liked their coverage? I'm a bit miffed by Eleven Sports losing the La Liga rights, because it'd have been cheaper to have that than Premier Sports.

ITV picked up some of the La Liga rights.

Cheers yeah I saw one of the Barcelona games on there, but unfortunately Premier Sports have picked up exclusive rights - so no more games on ITV4. They are showing some on FreeSports though.

I missed that the Costa Rica manager had resigned because he "didn't know being a national team manager was so boring." :D

I would love to be Costa Rica manager, if there are any execs from their FA reading.

I can't guarantee you World Cup qualification, but I promise not to resign due to boredom.

International management sounds like the dream.

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Its just below being the third-choice goalkeeper as the dream football job.

Nah, I'd snap up a commentators job. Just let me replace Ray Hudson. I'll live longer than him and work for less.

Going up :drool: this bus trip back is going to be carnage.

Fitzie is the biggest legend ever

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“Greatest League in the World” alright cool

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Yeah it's 100% serious you absolute little fuckrat.

Sweet nice good stuff

The STATE of Paulp Ogba-less United. I'll give it until half-time.

Just the four natural centre-backs in Brighton's defence today. I love Graham Potter.

Finally Rashford scores first when I have money on it.

United's strategy of getting a penalty every game might just work.

Woof.

What a finish by Tomori.

Finally some decent passing. Crystal Palace look amateurish

Only youth players have scored for Chelsea so far in the league. I for one am absolutely shocked the best youth academy in the world have decent players in it.

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Woof.

What a finish by Tomori.

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It was a decent hit but the goalkeeping was absolutely atrocious :D

Mount, Abraham and James had sort of high hopes around them to various degrees, but Tomori is a real bonus. No idea how we will cope with the CL games but whatever.

Also I didn't think Abraham would score this many in two years. Clinical so far.

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The bend on it though.

Thank fuck for that transfer ban. Our match went pretty much to form. Steve puts on an okay siege mentality but, when we need to go forward, we've got nowt.

That Abraham goal was so good. Reminded me of Aguero with the burst of speed.

Only just discovered that Mark Viduka and Luka Modric are cousins. Hmm.

Wolves :)

Nailed on for a champions league place.....

Yeah, they seem to be suffering some severe second season syndrome.

That's probably the best he's ever hit a free kick.

Chelsea start conceding when Zouma is on the pitch. Christ.

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He scored a banger in a European game a few years ago.

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Now Rudi is back (hoping he went off for rest/whatever) I am a lot more confident about our defence. He is a natural leader.

Dreadful game but a win and a clean sheet with Pogba and Martial out is a good result.

Angel Gomes needs giving some chances, Pereira and Mata offer nothing.

It should be Scott McTominay (who was really good today) and Fred with Paulp Ogba as a number ten.

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Probably, yes.

Leicester and Wolves putting pay to any idea of them challenging the top 6 with those results today.

Going off the team sheet alone United were there for the taking.

Norwich are ridiculously good. :cab:

Didn’t realise Man City had the jokers back in defence. That was utterly pathetic. Brilliant pass by Pukki, clearly plays FIFA. Not enough players pass in the situation.

Imagine resting the most in form player in the league already though.

See, getting smashed by them suddenly doesn't look so bad.

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Rested? He set up Norwich's second goal.

As much as I'm enjoying Norwich being ahead, City need to buck their ideas up or this might actually be Liverpool's year :vomit:

Its all on the Europa league lads.

Just turned it on and Neymar has just scored a left-footed bicycle kick in the 92nd minute to give PSG a 1-0 boost

What a donkey Otamendi is.

Otamendi :lol:

Him and Stones are a joke.

Norwich. :cool:

Looks like I was wrong about this new rule. Even City can't use it without disastrously fucking up.

City's defence is absolute pony.

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You can't even lol at City anymore. :moop:

They're still top, to be fair, two points ahead of second placed Spurs.

Liverpool's remaining fixtures are all against crap teams which isn't going to help.

This 16 year old Fati kid at Barcelona is looking a bit frightening.

Liverpool’s 5 point lead is the highest after 5 games. Another record for them with no title. Woohoo.

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I'll take top four again but the wait is going to end under Klopp. It has to.

:drool: Firmino's assist.

Liverpool are winning the league this season.

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Tammy was moving like prime Henry yesterday.

Lads, it's September.

Or 'Sackysilva', as it's called in Portuguese.

We seem to be playing 4 central midfielders away at Watford so I'm expecting a loss.

Premier League has so many good proper strikers.

Watford's manager has just been sacked.

I thought you meant like during the first half

Sokratis is amazing.

Some dweeb with a clipboard and an ipad is going to have to give me a 6 hour lecture on why this sort of thing is better than just knocking it.

Nelson looks proper Jordan Ibe. Hoping we can absolutely steal 20 million quid off some mid table Premier League club.

Arsenal never let a TV game down, especially away from home. What a club.

Is that Tom Cleverly?

41 points out of a possible 125 away from home. Truly impressive.

I always think the more remarkable thing about this Arsenal side is their home record.

That was looking like a decent result at halftime.

I turned over to NFL coverage after Arsenal's second lol what an idiot

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49713647

I love this whole article.

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"turned out to be," :D Fucking hell.

Just as well Italians aren't racist then.

Their whole mentality is completely fucked. Even the bloke who's trying to be seen to do the right thing has outed himself as a basketcase.

Some players in Serie A have done well speaking out against racism. Lukaku, Boateng, Rudiger. Fair play to them because it can't be easy as some part of them may suspect they will have a rougher time of it next match. I'm not sure many Italian players are saying much?

The way Italian translates is amusing. "I think it was a terrible lack of momentary lucidity."

De Gea gas signed a new deal worth £375k a week until 2023.

Lmao ffs.

Should have cashed him in.

For what? He had a year left on a contract that's probably earning him around the same as Theo Walcott. They'd have got peanuts and had to replace him.

That money means he's costing them 60 million quid over 4 years which is what they'd have to spend on a transfer fee alone and for who? If you have a top 10 in the world tier player on the books, it's always worth giving them what they want unless they're also a top 10 tier cunt.

Money well spent. Not (m)any keepers around better than De Gea.

I love how everyone still just accepts whatever wage gets made up as gospel, even though they are almost always complete nonsense. What's the source for that £375k, sportsbible?

He's only stopped being amazing since the contract wank started, so hopefully he reverts to form now.

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Substitute wage for 'ITK' and you have yourself during the transfer window.

If ddg could come off his line he'd be one of the best ever.

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Your ITK pals on Reddit.

The one ITK I said was actually good continues to have a 100% record so ya'll can tongue my nutsack.

You can't say things like that with Sincere about.

Jota is so pointless and shite on the wing

John McGinn on the other hand is a Don.

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Well, at least a condom isn't required.

When did the word ‘were’ go missing from the language?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49713647

I love this whole article.



"turned out to be," :D Fucking hell.

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His partner is black and he has two little black grandbabies.

Black and white TV too, right?

His wardrobe is full of black shirts.

Brown shirts.

Why do Italian teams only try in the last five minutes of games?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49734088

Cagliari have been cleared of racist chanting towards Inter Milan striker Romelu Lukaku in a Serie A match.

Ive been hearing about this fati but never seen him play. He better be good. The last foreign league youngsters ive wtched have impressed me. Mbappe, Sancho and Havertz

He won't be close to any of those yet. He's sixteen years old and has had about one full game of first team football.

From the moment, I saw Mbappe live on TV. I saw something different about him. Can fati produce the same type of flair?

That Adrian save is top quality stuff.

The Mane pass wasn’t.

Since when is diving not a clear and obvious error?

What's the point of VAR if players can get away with that?

Alf Inge Haaland's boy is doing well. Four hat tricks already this season.

Allan is a very clever footballer.

Very similar to last seasons game at Napoli in that we seemed to struggle with the conditions. Should have scored ourselves a few times, but not to be.

There were reports before the game that Robertson wasn't 100% and I think it showed. He's dangled a tired leg for the first one, even though it was a dive and then on the second goal he just shuts down and watches the ball. Not great by Virgil but Robertson could have mopped it up.

Winning the 3 home games and picking up a point in one of the away games should still be enough.

I almost forgotten what it's like to lose but it is what it is, we'll still qualify easily enough. We were sloppy in parts, mind.

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17 goals in 9 games this season for Salzburg. Also scored 9 goals in one game duringn the U-20 WC. Fiendish. Norway should have a good team soon with him and Odegaard

Lamps, mate, Super Frankie Lamps, put Jorginho on penalties ffs. Barkley? This isn't an EDL rally.

From the tweet i saw Barkley waved everyone off, no?

Yeah the SSN lot said there'd been some discussion during which Barkley insisted on taking it.

It's bullshit, as it was with the United one the other week. You have your best penalty taker, he takes it. Some cunt with an ego doesn't get it just because he "fancies" it. And if Lampard leaves them to sort it out among themselves like Solskjaer apparently was then he's culpable. These are mostly giant manchildren who frequently demonstrate that they cannot be trusted to make sensible, impartial decisions.

He said afterwards that Barkley is the penalty taker, which is a bit odd.

I don't particularly care what players earn because it's not my money but imagine being the highest earner at the club, not playing up to that standard and still not having to even travel to a single away game outside the M25. That's the fucking life.

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What an awful squad.

I eagerly await his plans for the rainbow laces day. Might be worth picking up an 'injury' several weeks earlier this time.

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You've brought this up a few times but one of his entourage is gay and he's been seen in gay bars dancing with his top off so I'm not sure it threads the needle.

It's the Chinese he's after.

What’s the go to since all Reddit Soccer Streams pages seem to be gone atm

Drop the reddit and add dot net to the end

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You've brought this up a few times but one of his entourage is gay and he's been seen in gay bars dancing with his top off so I'm not sure it threads the needle.

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Alright, I'll stick to the more likely theory that he has seriously pissed someone off in organised crime and doesn't like to travel too far.

Or he is a closet case.

Madrid getting donned by Dire Maria.

That’s a lovely goal from Don Maria.

Bayern's third is CLASS.

lol at Real Madrid. Ronaldo must have been managing that side by himself.

It's going to be hilarious when Zidane gets croaked and Bareth Gale gets to moonwalk on his grave whilst Mourinho rides in on a white horse

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Those lads need a hard look at themselves.

That's all on PSG really, and seeing as they have literally no 'tradition' to speak of it is hardly surprising.

I didn't think it was such an end of days result for Real, but then I didn't realise PSG were without quite a few of their star names.

PSG turn a corner every year only to be smashed out by somebody else.

They usually look decent without Neymar in the side. Then he returns and they go to shit against any side with a bit of quality.

Brazil are far better without him as well. It's almost as if teams play better as teams, rather than to serve an egotistical focal point.

Unless that ego is Cristiano Ronaldo

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Not having this.

Presumably you missed the last 5 Copa Americas.

He played an integral part to them winning an Olympic gold medal.

Edit: In Brazil. He did something.

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Absent for Portugal's greatest victory.

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Absent for Portugal's greatest victory.

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He was on the sidelines barking at his players in his brief player/manager role

That United line up. :cool:

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That United line up. :cool:

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Yeah I'm pretty happy with that.

FEC to lead by example, obviously.

Absolute state of the referee in the Celtic game here. Sent him off because of the crowd about 20 seconds later after not even giving a foul.

Saka looks twice the player that Nelson is. Absolutely rough as but there's something about him that wasn't there when Nelson was his age. Kids going to be somewhere below Jordan Sancho but above Jordan Ibe.

Rashford should legitimately have a hat-trick inside the first 20 minutes. Not could but should.

EDIT: @phonics *Jadon Sancho

Well this is boring.

Working out what why Chong gets to share in the Gomes/Greenwood HYPE is keeping me going.

I've been too busy trying to think what wrestling names I can give the centre-halves if Axel Tuanzebe gets into the team. Do I go for the obvious and start calling Harry Maguire "Smash"? Giving him a new full name of Bo Dallas seems a bit much.

That turn from Gomes was nice.

Rojo > Shaw

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He looked hopeless and completely out of his depth in the first half. Then when the already shoddy Frankfurt defence tired he came to life. Send him on loan to the Bundesliga and see whether he’s got it, or if he does a Reece Oxford.

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I was about to say he looks surprisingly good this game.

The problem with him is still that he'll do something absolutely mental every other game.

EDIT: that Rabona attempt :D

I must have had a brief psychotic episode there because I could have sworn Rojo just tried a fucking rabona.

He would be a United legend by now if he had played more regularly.

Rashford has hit two 'conventional' free-kicks this week and they're his two best attempts ever. The sooner someone smacks that Ronaldo style out of him the better.

If I'd known the alternative was "United Road" on a loop for 90 minutes I'd never have complained at Old Trafford being outsung by the away fans every game.

You could always try 'ny-tid' or 'Man U' to the tune of 'Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea (Chelsea)'.

At what age group do United start training how to take a set piece? Gomes will benefit from that.

The worst chant is and will forever be "Plaaaaaaay up Pompeeeyyyyyyy, Pompeeeyyy play up" ad infinitum.

Take me home, Webly Road
Drinking ales, in his chair
Watching cricket, and the wrestling
Take me home, Webly Road

Lewis donning the Webly singing section. :cool:

:lol:

Ian Webly went to France
They didn't have ale so he gave wine a chance
All his euros down the drain
Never going abroad again

It's Webly, you know
Hard to believe he's not old

What's the tune for the France one?

The 'Tony Martial' song.

Ahhhh. yes. Good work.

*goes into tedious drone about some actually-pretty-good French beers.*

Name on the trophy.

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As I said, he's completely rough but this is his 4th appearance ever and Frankfurt aren't bad. He seems to make the aggressive decision alot which I like.

Just seen Karius' effort from last night.

How as that man forged a career as a professional footballer?

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Hull's 'mauled by the tigers' shit accompanied by the hand gestures of a six year old at a birthday party with a face painter is the worst.

I'm forever blowing bubbles has always cringed me off a cliff.

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Hull's 'mauled by the tigers' shit accompanied by the hand gestures of a six year old at a birthday party with a face painter is the worst.

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As if it isn't tongue-in-cheek. If nothing else, it's fairly unique so props for the effort. It's better than slightly altering a generic chant for each club.

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I like that one, probably as it presents the chipper downtrodden cockney image that I, as a sneering middle class bastard, want to see.

I am also a closet liker of 'YNWA', real shame involved there, although as with all chants the a cappella mid game versions are ruined by singing it way too fast.

Yeah, YNWA is quite good. Very much a chant made by the occasion as well. Blaydon Races can't hold a candle to it because we barely sing the chorus now.

Good old sussex by the sea is pretty crap, but, in a way, quite fitting.

I'm forever blowing bubbles is ruined by the new stadium and all the wanky bubble machines (although I think they had those at 'The Boleyn' as well).

Newcastle should lean into the Mark Knopfler stuff. Do a full 15-minute rendition of Telegraph Road partway through the match.

Here comes Offy singing oldies, goldies
Jean-Eric Boumsong and Papiss Cissé

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Jean-Alain. :dc:

Not for the weak of stomach.

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The fuck is the context for that. He seems so chill

Going by the comment I guess he was holding a flare or firework of some kind. He's obviously in shock, give it a few minutes for the adrenaline to wear off and he'll be in much worse shape.

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Tongue in cheek things can still be shit.

Imagine giving that for offside. What a shambles.

lol.

Spurs have been great value this year.

Pochettino is some twat for hanging about there.

City will hit double figures if this continues.

5-0 after 17 minutes. The fuck is going on.

The clearly fictional Tobi Sho-Silva has scored for Halifax.

Apparently Rodri has just been "in and around" one of the Watford midfielders.

Given how stealthily he tends to sneak in and come away with the ball it's entirely possible he's given one of them a quick bumming with only the commentator noticing.

'A smelly performance from Cologne' says BT's lovely presenter. That whole team has been spending far too much time around James Richardson.

If Rodgers had gone with Maddison in midfield for Chelsea and United we’d be second. Think the penny has dropped to go attacking with this group and see what happens.

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Some high comedy followed by an obscene strike.

Granada running riot.

:D

7-0. Limerick are a shambles, may not exist next week, but that's a nice finish to a great season.

I don't know where we're going to finish this season - it could be no better than last year, one spot above the relegation places, it could be 11th - but what's certain is the football is so much more fun to watch. We were good first half and I won't tire of us playing all the way from the keeper through to a shot on goal, and big Dan Burn the marauding centre-back-cum-winger pulling off Cruyff-like flicks.

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I was about to reply with 'Atletico's season' before checking their score and the live table. Better make it Granada's season.

We're equally dire but we've been through this kind of stuff with Rafa. Hopefully something starts to spark soon.

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Or 'Sackysilva', as it's called in Portuguese.

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City for them next.

It's happening.

Ed Woodward talking under his hand in the stands is a new low for football. Garreh Neville having a fit for effect as well.

Neville simply can't be objective when it comes to United. He shows himself up.

How on earth are Liverpool evens for today’s game

We're shit.

I'm struggling.

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Ngolo plays, think that price is roughly fair.

Azpilicueta/Willian play and no Rudiger. Right hand side will be getting raped. Plus, I’m not so sure he’s even half fit.

Pulisic must be dreadful.

I'm assuming Robertson has recovered. He was 50/50 to go against Napoli and didn't exactly play great. The rest of the side is the standard one for the big teams.

Brewster on the bench is good to see.

Rockin' Roy's exciting, progressive Crystal Palace outfit about to go above Spurs and United (and probably Chelsea).

EDIT: jinxed that.

This is the one that will show if there's been progress. Chelsea gave a very good game both here last season and in the Super Cup.

The lack of away points against top sides is about the only thing that could improve on last season.

I'm expecting a completely different game to that of the Super Cup. We'll ease past them.

Mourinho looks like a seriously disturbed man these days. He must have last smiled in about 2013.

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He needs to shut up occasionally on commentary. It's matches like that that make me wish Alan Smith was co-commentating - yes what he's saying will be extremely basic, and at times extremely dull, but the focus is actually on the game taking place and not on a Sky employee acting out his own soap opera.

I only saw the second half but if United were worse in the first, god help them.

Hopefully the dodgy, error strewn Chelsea turn up today but I'm not holding my breath.

How do you manage to get it as badly wrong as Utd have with so much outlay? Is it all in Woodward and, if so, how does he keep his job? Surely the goodwill they live off from the Ferguson years for commercial deals can't last forever if they keep regressing.

That's an emphatic free kick.

We are really decent going forward, complete bomb scare at the back though. This will finish 2-4 or similar.

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How do you manage to get it as badly wrong as Utd have with so much outlay? Is it all in Woodward and, if so, how does he keep his job? Surely the goodwill they live off from the Ferguson years for commercial deals can't last forever if they keep regressing.

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It's purely the money with the owners so until that stops, Ed remains. He's untouchable.

I'm not surprised united with their mid table team lost against a team at the same level.

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Optimistic. Mount is pointless on the wing and the less said about the other winger the better.

Abraham not squaring it there :face:

That is absolute bullshit. There were about 15 touches after that.

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It's purely the money with the owners so until that stops, Ed remains. He's untouchable.

I'm not surprised united with their mid table team lost against a team at the same level.

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Have they not got the foresight to know that another 10 years of mediocrity will lead to the incoming money drying up? Maybe they’re on for selling up before that or something.

VAR is the worst thing to ever exist.

So glad we have this system that seems to solely exist to disallow goals.

That wasn’t inevitable.

It's got to go. It completely takes over everything and destroys the natural rhythm of the game. 'The correct decision' is not important except in about 10-20% of cases where there is a shocking howler by the refs.

I'm loving this.

Get that Italian rat off my Captain.

Zouma is on. This could get ugly and quick.

Maitland-Niles is the king of being sent off for absolutely nothing. Pathetic refereeing. How does the sport work if literally foul is a yellow card?

Martin Tyler sounds inconsolable that Liverpool are winning.

It's not that, he just (rightly) hates VAR.

I always thought it would be money eventually killed the sport but along comes VAR.

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I always thought he was a Liverpool fan.

He's a Woking fan.

VAR has its problems, but this application of it was perfectly fine. But then I would say that as a Liverpool fan.

How far back into a move do you go? There were about 3 shots/saves between that and the ball going in. We had a goal allowed against Norwich when there was an offside at a similar point, maybe even later, but the refs deemed that a new 'phase' had started.

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Maitland-Niles is the king of being sent off for absolutely nothing. Pathetic refereeing. How does the sport work if literally foul is a yellow card?

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Villa player didn't get a yellow card for giving a penalty away :cab:

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Lol who cares I give up. Fuck this team.

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How far back into a move do you go? There were about 3 shots/saves between that and the ball going in. We had a goal allowed against Norwich when there was an offside at a similar point, maybe even later, but the refs deemed that a new 'phase' had started.

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I agree it should be clearly defined (or as clearly as possible, considering football rules are usually rather vague) and applied with consistency. I don't feel they went back egregiously far in the instance today.

Dani Ceballos has just had two corners cleared by the first man in a row.

Looks like Hazard left his talent at Cobham and Kanté has spent the last month injecting it into himself.

That was amazing. And to think I sold him in Fantasy Football.

Phonics seething :D

Quality from Kante. We've tried to shut the game down too early here.

I’m seething at our own shitness tbf.

Although is that a second pen? I literally don’t understand the handball rule now so I have to ask.

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I don't understand it, if you just carried on like the first half you would surely have had an opening for the third. As it is you have given us a sniff and especially that point when Henderson needlessly blew up in the ref's face for a few minutes (leaders have to stay calm).

I deserved that :(

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He's came out and said our on field performance is not related to the marketability of the club (and keep the sponsor gravy train rolling). He sees us as a Disneyland type company who will always have the fans flocking in to see the brand.

He's absolutely wrong.

Salah is just going to keep running into people today, isn't he.

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I posted that about 10 seconds before a VAR check for a Villa penalty. I'm gonna shut up.

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He's came out and said our on field performance is not related to the marketability of the club (and keep the sponsor gravy train rolling). He sees us as a Disneyland type company who will always have the fans flocking in to see the brand.

He's absolutely wrong.

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I'm really starting to dislike Geundouzi, too - the sniveling little cunt.

Nearly threw it away there. Everything after about 55 mins was ugly.

We were excellent in the second half, slightly unlucky not to get a point in the end. If we can gradually learn how to defend we'll be fine. I love Tomori, find of a season with a number of early finds. Christensen is a worry as his error-proneness hasn't really improved in the 50 odd games he's had.

Dean Smith going full ‘everything that went for us is correct and everything against us is wrong’ is what I needed to get back of the Arsenal bus.

I was confident that Clinton Morrison had already maxed out his 'wanker' rating, then he comes out as Spurs.

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Just occasionally Roy Keane justifies his existence.

That studio really needed an Ian Wright or someone to lighten it the hell up. Football is not serious ffs.

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That room would struggle to get much ‘lighter’ in all fairness.

Surprised they didn't just put an empty chair out to mourn Alex Scott's temporary defection to Strictly.

Mmmmmm. Alex Scott. :drool:

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Yeah as soon as I saw that line-up I noped out of listening to any of it.

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Lol.

He’ll get banned no doubt. Britain is a shambles.

There is a nice middle ground somewhere between England and Italy but for some reason everyone is avoiding it

That damn cartoon chocolate mascot looks racist as FUCK but why on earth would you ever share that on twitter lmao

You can joke with your friends but especially in 2019 come on man lol

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You can joke with your friends but especially in 2019 come on man lol

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He could have just shared it in the inevitable WhatsApp group.

14 match ban and chained to a transatlantic flight imo. 5 match ban for Mendy failing to report him to the authorities.

Odd response but ok.

I thought the 'Mendy is walking around the place naked, it's crazy, look at this guy' only to show Mendy wearing a black t-shirt and black shorts was far worse but is all very symptomatic of the Spanish/Portuguese/Latinx love of casual racism as banter.

Yeah I’m surprised it’s not that he got pulled up on. He’s clearly fine with it though so who cares

Intent matters. They're mates. I bet it's only peckerwoods that are getting their panties all knotted over it.

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I mean this is a stupid point that falls apart within seconds.

Football fans doing monkey chants is okay because their intent is not to be racist but to put the player off their game?

Intent matters between two people. This was tweeted to an audience of over half a million people.

Right, like... clearly the two people involved enjoy that type of relationship but at some level to expect everyone on Earth to get in on the joke seems a bit... idk out of touch at best?

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Unfortunately it probably can’t be the case but it really should be nobody else’s fucking business.

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What the fuck is this on about? He posted it to a public forum.

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To another person. That wasn’t offended.

Coming from the bloke who has an absolute shit fit the moment he detects a whiff of anti-Irish sentiment that the person wasn't even implying.

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Merely correct observations. I'm not looking anyone removed from their position because of it.

Ah yes, Bernardo Silva is definitely facing the sack.

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There's plenty howling for it.

How many is plenty in your world, and can you show me so?

He'll get a fine and rightly so.

It doesn't matter if Mendy doesn't mind, he's said the joke on a platform where millions can see. If he wanted a bit of 'BANTERSAURAUS MATE' then he could have done it privately. I'm sure he's got his number.

Marcelo and Modric in this FIFA mens team of the year jobbie. Am I missing something?

They still have some bribes in the account from when Ronaldo was there.

Marcelo is a belter of a pick. Even if you don't want to give it to the season's standout left back from the team that won the European Cup, you could just default it to Jordi Alba and that would be 10 times better.

Is Modric even first choice?

Ramos is another :cab: choice unless this somehow factors in the 2018 Champions League. Real were absolute gak last season. Worst league performance in a decade, mugged out of the European Cup by a minnow, humiliated in the domestic cup, Spain were shite, Croatia were worse and Marcelo didn't even make the Brazil Copa squad. Mind bottling.

Modric was the player of the World Cup, wasn't he? It's all he's done, but that's probably why he's in there.

The world cup was well over a year ago.

Just looking at random stats, as I do. C.Ronaldo won two league title in Madrid. I would have guessed he was on five.

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Hence why he was world player of the year last year.

I know it's meaningless rubbish, but if they're just going to copy and paste it year on year why do they even bother?

Anyone know where I can stream the saints game on my phone this evening?

I’ll get you a link later if I remember.

Off to Pompey/Saints this evening :uhoh:

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Be a good lad and stream it to Andy.

😀

I’d love to, but I’m not sure my phone battery will last

I got the train back into Fratton about an hour ago and it's crawling with police. Not sure why. Everyone not in skinny jeans would have heart failure if it KICKED OFF.

We’re four rows from the front at pitch level by the edge of the Fratton End penalty area :drool:

Pitch invasion it.

We’ve just spotted the pitch side mic about 5 metres away from us. If you hear a random screech during the game it’s probably me hiccuping.

Should’ve brought a TTH sign

Shout 'Come back Magic' for the lads.

Hopefully you forgot your set of bells this time.

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Works fine once the AD finishes

Hmm, not going to plan.

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Nope.

It's raining as well. lol at Tottenham.

:D Spurs.

What a day. Not even bothered that I missed the game, in future I'll never book a holiday during the season.

Incredible.

Imagine being Danny Ings, born and raised in Southampton, fan all his life and scoring twice against Pompey. Geezer.

The 'fan all his life' bit might be over egging it considering he left for a Liverpool side that was finishing about 5 places above you at the time.

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Lol what does that matter

Was he also a fan just out of the womb?

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He left Burnley for Liverpool. And was it Bournemouth before them?

I've barely watched any football in the last 5-10 years, but I think we're not a very good football team.

Everything looked pretty aimless, with basically every pass being a hoof thirty yards up the field to one guy on his own with no support to either chase it down in vain or flick it on to nobody. Ryan Williams was the only player who gave a good account of himself, and even he basically just ran down the right hand side of the pitch a lot with basically no production.

You could easily see the difference between the two teams mentally. Everything takes one or two touches more for us than for the Southampton players, and we were a lot less composed at both ends of the pitch. We also really lack any kind of creativity, and there were a few occasions when we had three players all standing next to each other with the ball with no idea what to do.

Obviously, getting plastered by a team that's about 70 places higher than us in the football pyramid isn't exactly something to go ballistic about, but the feeling that there's no real plan when we have the ball, and that nothing is really being done to switch things up in terms of tactics or individual matchups, is the major concern that I left with. The only tactical decision that looked to have been made today was to play a striker at CB, which feels like trying to be far too cute for no reason. I'm not sure if it's been this way every week, but I seem to remember having a similar thought when we went to the Coventry game at the end of last season, and if that's the case then we really ought to be asking questions of Kenny Jackett.

EDIT: Should also point out that the support was phenomenal, and that those seats I had were shit. Being below pitch level really makes it hard to get perspective on the field & I found myself just watching the screen half the time so I could actually tell where everyone was relative to each other & the pitch. Speaking of the screen, that's pretty rubbish too - cuts off the game every couple of minutes to show an ad for one of the sponsors, which they could probably just do over the quarter of the screen that has the score on instead, but money.

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It was just a show of respect.

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We never sold him to Liverpool, he was in our academy a long time ago, we released him as he wasnt tall enough. Then he went to Bournemouth.

I cant recall ever having a chance to sign him other than we did either.

Not sure who you're getting confused with as none of the players weve sold to Liverpool have been from Southampton.

I think he's probably thinking of Lallana, as he's the only one that remotely fits.

Probably as the rest were forrins. Although in general, unless they have a ridiculous accent I have no idea where any players are from or who they support.

Yeah, I only really know the odd player in the Southampton setup and the obvious high profile ones.

We have quite a few from Portsmouth at the moment.

That Chelsea team tonight :drool:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49828745

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Someone have a word.

Liverpool: GK-Kelleher, Hoever, Lovren, Gomez, Milner, Lallana, Oxlade, Keita, Jones, Elliot, Brewster

Chelsea: Cabellero, James, Guehi, Zouma, Alonso, Gilmour, Barkley, Pulisic, Pedro(c), Hudson-Odoi, Batshuayi

Hudson-Odoi's back already? That seems very quick for an achilles. Hope he doesn't tear it again.

Who is Jones?

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Chelsea: Cabellero, James, Guehi, Zouma, Alonso, Gilmour, Barkley, Pulisic, Pedro(c), Hudson-Odoi, Batshuayi

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The Scottish Iniesta :drool:

What a team minus Alonso and Barkley.

I'll even will Kelleher to have a good game seeing as it's not an important one.

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Hudson-Odoi's back already? That seems very quick for an achilles. Hope he doesn't tear it again.

Who is Jones?

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Curtis Jones.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49828745

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Someone have a word.

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Nah, let him talk. If it goes wrong, it'll not be down to him ... probably.

Oxford Utd: Eastwood, Long, Dickie, Moore, Ruffels, Hall, Brannagan, Thorne, Baptiste, Forde, Mackie. Subs: Taylor, Woodburn, Fosu, Stevens, Sykes, Agyei, Jones.
West Ham: Roberto, Zabaleta, Balbuena, Diop, Masuaku, Sanchez, Snodgrass, Wilshere, Fornals, Holland, Ajeti. Subs: Fabianski, Cresswell, Felipe Anderson, Noble, Goncalo Cardoso, Haller, Coventry.

If Chelsea don’t score at least 7 here they’ve failed.

Nice touch.

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I know I shouldn't be surprised, but Lovren's really pulling out the stops to be the worst player on the pitch in this shitshow of league 1 muppets and kids/reserves.

Quite like the look of this haircut we've nicked off Fulham.

Hoever is obviously falling into some sort of dreadful national stereotype by deciding to play in clogs.

Brighton have properly sacked this off. Apart from Duffy and that Connolly (subbed off for another child already), I doubt any of the starters from tonight will start a Premier League game this season.

The one bright spot from this game so far is Axel Tuanzebe, who looks excellent.

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Immigrant gets special treatment. Typical.

Rojo waving his arms at the sideways passing. :cool:

I forgot about the Carabao. Any streams? I can't seem to find it on the awful Footybite.

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Reece James looks good, albeit against Cleethorpes Hellscape United, but Dave could be under threat sharpish.

Thank you.

Filip Helander is the slowest player I've seen since Kevin Kyle. I'm confident the linesman has beaten him for pace two or three times tonight.

That was a nice finish by Greenwood.

Oh and lol at West Ham.

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Can't be slower than Blind.

Oh and fuck's sake :D

EDIT: 16 and English? We'll pay £30m for him in January.

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That's the most Welsh name of all time.

Callum Chambers looked like Cafu yesterday. Even pulled off a perfect cross on the volley, was proper video game stuff.

United will definitely lose if it goes to penalties.

Gonna lose anyways because this is my life

Paulp Oogba X
Rojo ✓
Lingard X
Greenwood X

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If he’s not starting for Chelsea and doesn’t make the Euros it’ll be from breaking his leg again. Far too good. Gilmour ran the game at times as well. Hudson-Odoi really should stick to the right wing until his shooting and composure improves as his crossing is already at a good level.

Actually it might go to five because Romero is just the sort of flapping idiot to save one or two, so put Fred down for a successful kick.

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That's the most Welsh name of all time.

Callum Chambers looked like Cafu yesterday. Even pulled off a perfect cross on the volley, was proper video game stuff.

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Cafu’s children wish their Dad was Reece James.

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Can't be slower than Blind.

Oh and fuck's sake :D

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Significantly slower.

Pogba getting tackled in the box ffs

Cracking result for Man United holding Rochdale to a 1-1 draw.

What happened on that second Rochdale penalty? Was that the first time he's ever kicked a ball?

Man United Business Club LLC with a huge victory over Rochdale.

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The Plastic Treble is still on (I suspect the league is gone). :cool:

You'll draw the mackems next round, probably.

So I can't work out how to link the video directly but

https://v.redd.it/64qcie5p3to31

Romero :lol:

I see the path is basically being cleared for City to win this again.

They'll get the winner of Crawley v Colchester in the next round whilst the winners of Chelsea/United and Liverpool/Arsenal will face off.

Good draw for us imo. Either we get a morale boosting win against a team better than us or we get knocked out before the fixtures pile up. Win/win.

Reckon we have the measure of United at 2nd XI level, so not a bad draw, unless they take it seriously.

As seen yesterday, a serious United side isn’t such a terrifying opponent. Have United won away after that PSG game?

Edit: nevermind. They haven’t.

Don't know if anyone cares about nerd shit, but I put together some schedule-adjusted xG based ratings on the Premier league so far.

https://i.imgur.com/ExQ9PIp.png

Anyone that has played City has a massively tanked defence rating, and what I've seen of Newcastle really does bear out in the numbers.

All aboard the nowt club.

Are those numbers relative to 1st and last place? I'm tired and don't understand.

Im glad because I’m also confused and have no idea what it’s supposed to mean.

I'm guessing 1 is the best and 0 the worst and how each compare in relation to the best, based on whatever xG is. In other words, complete wankery, just look at the goals for / goals against columns and you will have the same information (or even better, the points table.)

It's just normalized so 1 is the best and 0 is the worst, easier on the eyes than scaling between 8 and 16 or whatever.

You can look at goals for and against, but I don't think it's controversial to say that they can often lie. This is purely which teams have been best at creating and preventing chances. Normalized by schedule means I've taken their performance vs each opponent and compared it to how that team has done in each of the rest of their games.

There are a bunch of caveats (small sample being the primary), but I find this sort of thing interesting to look at.

What does that mean? For example are United over or underachieving?

Green good, red bad.

They are half a Man City, so I don't know.

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Excellent defence, average attack. It speaks nothing of under/overperformance.

FEC donning it. :cool:

That is interesting. I've thought we've 'played better' than our league position suggests, so good to know there's something that backs that up. I'd have guessed Norwich would be way higher and United a bit lower.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49824424

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Two votes for Mohamed Salah in the Best Fifa men's player award were not counted because signatures were in capital letters, says Fifa.

The Egyptian Football Association (EFA) said acting Egypt coach Shawky Gharib and captain Ahmed Elmohamady voted for Liverpool forward Salah.

Nicaragua captain Juan Barrera called into question the authenticity of his country's votes in the awards as he said he did not submit any votes.

Fifa's records show that Barrera voted for Lionel Messi as best player and Liverpool's Jurgen Klopp as best manager.

"I did not vote in the awards #TheBest2019 any information about my vote is false," 30-year-old midfielder Barrera tweeted.

The Sudanese Football Federation also said its published votes did not match the votes it cast.

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FIFA cheating to ensure Messi won...

I'll get on to the t-shirt printers.

New alleged takeover talk involving Peter Kenyon. Whatever, lads. Whatever.

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Colourblind sad.

(I do kind of get it now)

This cup semi tonight :drool:

The season is telling on Bohs now, they’ve offered nothing at all.

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That is interesting. I've thought we've 'played better' than our league position suggests, so good to know there's something that backs that up. I'd have guessed Norwich would be way higher and United a bit lower.

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I've only watched Brighton in the game against Saints and the red card changed everything.

I feel like weve on the whole even quite lucky. I think weve had 5 big VAR calls go our way, which has had a huge swing on our position.

If Mané had his shooting boots on we'd have this wrapped up already.

Sheffield United putting a lot of work in off the ball so hopefully we can pick them off late on. They seem to be playing a 5-3-2 but pressing high and then when they get the ball, all bar one CB sprints up the pitch to join in. It's quite a thing.

Jesus

Barkley, Alonso, Azpilicueta, Pedro and Willian in the same team. Meltdown central.

Fair play to Sheffield United the awkward little fuckers. Good three points.

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Sounds like another shambolic VAR at Bournemouth. It's got to go.

Maybe if Watford sack this manager as well they'll get the new manager bounce this time.

67mins, Kovacic replaces Barkley.

Some things never change.

At least De Bruyne can finally be called the best player in the league now his captain left for Madrid.

Them having the 2 Silvas and him in the same starting lineup is all kinds of ridiculousness.

City really ought to be running in a few against these in the second half.

I have no idea what anyone sees in Alex Iwobi.

Victor Anichebe has a scouse accent. I did not know this.

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David Silva is a tad overrated. Shouldn’t be blocking a path for Foden anyway.

Garreh Neville is talking absolute horseshit again. Would still do a better job than Yerry Mina at the back though.

Pickford being England’s #1 for the next few knockout tournaments is a good thing for non English folk. Tosspot

I suppose you need something to keep you interested in international tournaments.

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I've still got City favourites for the title. They're not keeping as many clean sheets as last season but their attack is light years ahead of the rest.

Now that Kompany is van Dijk, it'll be a lot harder for them.

Barcelona fined €300 (not a typo) for illegally approaching Griezmann.

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They don’t even bother pretending any more. Can do what they like.

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Yeah, I must have re-read the sentence in the article I saw about 3 times to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Will they get further bother off UEFA or is that it?

I believe that's it.

Watching last week's motd, crikey tim Cahill isn't the worlds most exciting man is he?

Does he count towards the black quotas? That would be the only explanation I can think of for his presence on TV.

He’s black? I always thought he was part Polynesian or something

Hayden should be gone for months for that challenge + the reaction. Absolutely pathetic.

Would have been more interesting had it not been given. Still don't reckon VAR would overturn the ref on it.

It's bad but is it that bad?

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Not really. It’s hardly the worst challenge I’ve ever seen. Won the ball at the end of the day.

The game against high flying, former managered, one of the only teams to not lose at Anfield last season, Leicester is our first Saturday 3pm'er I think, which is a bit mad considering some of the crap we've been on telly against

Can we just be relegated now, please? We're done for.

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If you called yourself a professional defender and this happened would you just retire? Awful.

Yeah, more the next Luiz than Messi, that.

So apparently there was Hillsborough chanting and shit at the Man Utd-Liverpool womens game last week. Talksport just had a female football expert on the phone... Rather talk about the increased popularity of the sport, or the bigger crowds (resulting in more idiots in the crowd)... She immediately blamed specifically men in the crowd. Not idiots or morons... Men. Amazing.

Well women aren't turning up to football and singing about a tragedy like that are they?

I get your point but I'm just curious cause all the #WoSo broads I know are very liberal and would never even imagine doing such a despicable thing.

Ok I guess what I'm asking is if the people who religiously follow women's soccer do it for the clout like they do in America or nah ?

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Well women aren't turning up to football and singing about a tragedy like that are they?

I get your point but I'm just curious cause all the #WoSo broads I know are very liberal and would never even imagine doing such a despicable thing.

Ok I guess what I'm asking is if the people who religiously follow women's soccer do it for the clout like they do in America or nah ?

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Well, it likely is men - but the point is the issue isn't a sex thing - it's a moron and fucking idiots thing. Not everything in the womens game has to boil down to a battle of the sexes.

How great would it be if women started forming hooligan gangs just like the men.

The Femultras.

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Well, it likely is men - but the point is the issue isn't a sex thing - it's a moron and fucking idiots thing. Not everything in the womens game has to boil down to a battle of the sexes.

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I mean but.... and I don't really enjoy or taking any pleasure in pointing this out... but hooliganism and this type of behavior IS kinda solely a male function if you REALLY think about it....

So while it is a moron and idiots thing, and while pointing this out doesn't really have any real consequence (it's hardly as if it's going to change things if all the LADS got told they are in fact LADS) I don't necessarily think it's wrong in a 2+2 = 4 sort of way.

Sure 2 apples + 2 oranges = 4 fruits and who fucking cares. I'm just saying the "math" isn't really wrong is it?

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The Always Ultras, surely.

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Repped.

Turkey banned all men from Fenerbahce games because of crowd trouble and allowed women and children only. Sounds great.

https://youtu.be/IIOBAteDles

The stuff that gets posted under the United team announcements is better than the games these days.

It's mad how meaningless this fixture has become in such a short time from the height of the rivalry.

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I find it equally as mad at just how bang average both have become. I'm expecting Arsenal to whoop them or a dour 0-0. I see no way in which the biggest bores in the division take a home win.

It seems like it was a United lolfest for longer than it was ever actually a bitter rivalry. Even David Moyes took four points from them. They put a couple of results on 'LvG', but then he did them with a youth team and faked a dive on the sideline to don them senseless.

You always sensed Arsenal would be the first to crack back then. Fragile mentality compared to United.

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Between 1997 and 2003 they were the only relevant teams in England and had the same low-key-feuding managers throughout, so it was a good rivalry. That was 20 years ago though, I don't know why people expect it to last forever.

Then everyone else got money in the mean time and their competitive advantages over the rest were suddenly nil.

It’s Arsenal though so should be a good game. Aubameyang double nailed on. I wonder if Rashford will be non league levels again.

Wonder how Ashley Young managed to give Aaron Wan Bissaka tonsillitis.

Why does emery not start ceballos?

The only arsenal cm that looks competent on the ball.

You could forgive Ashley Young for being crap defensively (which he isn't), but how is he so useless on the ball?

Tuanzebe looks a massive talent.

United's best left-back.

This is desperate fare.

I know Piers Morgan is a bellend, but best front 3 in world football? What exactly does this Pepe character do?

This thing some commentators do where they constantly have to bemoan how awful a game has been is exhausting.

Everyone is watching the same match, crying about it at every second isn't omniscient.

Another Scottish player doing bits when not playing for them.

Mcsauce

Xhaka ducking out the way hahaha

What a hit, fucking hell.

Imagine your club captain ducking out of the way of a shot destined for goal lol couldn't be my fuckin club.

Scott :cool:

https://i.gyazo.com/565529cd6c571385...7035209d04.png

The fuck is that.

Wenger’s legacy?

All the acestreams I can find keep going back to half time. :moop:

Can someone explain the handball rules for me again, please? Or a link to them?

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If the ball hits the hand/arm when it's in an unnatural position, or has been brought towards the ball intentionally, handball.

If not, no dice.

The absolute state of that decision from the linesman.

That was the worst offside call i've ever seen. VAR 1-1 Weekend

Sport is a waste of time.

That linesman has put his flag up at every opportunity. Are they not meant to just leave it unless it’s obvious.

Young appealing for it when he should have been closing down as if there isn't a replay option.

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Which is exactly why this is all a waste of our time. It's more about refereeing than sport.

Welp we've wasted Ashley Young's one good cross this season

The whole officiating has been a joke

Xhaka is crap.

'Mon Greenwood.

You could give us 1000 corners and I doubt we'd ever score from one.

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I thought they were meant to put it up if they had the slightest doubt and allow VAR to judge it.

It's the opposite, let the play run and then judge it once the ball's gone in (or not gone in).

I really like Dan James. That touch to give him the edge was sublime.

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Yeah but once the ball goes in, they are then meant to put it up if they have a doubt right?

Xhaka strikes me not only as a bad player but a really abominable person.

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These DEEP ones which need a header to put it back into the 'danger zone' are horseshit.

Just put Maguire, Lindelof and McTominay central and try to stick it on one of their heads.

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Him complaining about the yellow after that foul on Greenwood :D

That Pepe looks an absolute turkey.

Only just seen the handball call against Kolasinac, which was an absolutely stone-wall penalty.

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1/3 of the best attacking trio in the world apparently.

United haven't been a threat on corners since Ronaldo was the target.

Surprised Rashford didn't smash that at the wall.

Rashford should get sent on loan to Bournemouth or something.

Dan James is the first United player I've liked in my whole life

I can't believe I wasted my evening watching that tripe.

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The twats are going to ruin him though if they rely on him so much and he'll burn out before the season is through for sure.

You still post more about Utd than you do Liverpool, even now we're shit.

A 1-1 draw? On a monday night?

Roy Keane's musings are the only thing worth tuning in for on United games now.

Also, in defence of Xhaka, I don't think he ducks out of the way of that shot, he was never in line with it and I think he was trying to get in the way of it in his own inimitably shit way.

I like the fact that Dan James seems to play football in the style of mid-noughties PES Semau.

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Factually incorrect but even if it were true, who gives a fuck? I'm keeping you relevant.

By joining everyone else in live commentary? Great shout.

Last night showed another problem with VAR. Lino puts up his flag, defenders (could) see it and stop defending, attacker carries on and scores - VAR allows it. We may as well get rid of linesman - just play on until VAR decided.

All the defenders carried on except young. The flag didn't seem to go up until Arsenal took the shot. Play to the whistle 101.

That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.

He was flagging absolutely everything. Man Utd must have had about 3/4 different free kicks crossed in and offside was given. Just play on if you’re going to force VAR to be a thing and review it later.

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That lino was a disgrace. Decision insanely bad, put flag up too early (and did this repeatedly during the game), has he even had the VAR briefing? I guess a linesman's flag is 'non-binding' technically (play to the whistle) but I wondered whether they might have weaseled their way out of giving that goal on a technicality. Ref was close to whistling it as well.

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I like how human incompetenece is prestented as 'anotehr problem with VAR'

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It's a problem with the implementation of the system. This is pretty obvious stuff.

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Do you think the VAR system itself wrote the rules, regulations and guidelines when using it?

Is this Terminator?

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Is this Terminator?

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VAR could gang rape a group of kids and phonics won't hear a bad word about it.

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Is this Terminator?

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This guy thinks it's able to reproduce and sentient enough to rape people so maybe?

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That's took a wicked deflection.

Whole different type of foul in the box, that.

Humans fucking up by themselves > humans fucking up while using technology. So VAR out please.

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Should be a challenge system for exactly this reason. Manager fucks up by challenging, gets screwed by bad decision later = best outcome for lols.

Yeah, a challenge system would be ideal and is exactly how cricket uses it, to often hilarious effect.

Refs having the power, as we are seeing, just leads to them checking absolutely everything and grey areas emerging. The best logic to use is: referee makes a call > is there evidence to overturn that call? > yes/fuck off. VAR does none of that, it's basically a glorified version of that BACK, AND TO THE LEFT thing from JFK.

You also need to have the video ref mic'd up while he does things.

Making it a red card offense if a player storms the VAR room in Stockley Park is a perfect summary of it's implementation. It makes a farce of the system and the rules the system governs.

The reason that Son offside is stupid is because offside is stupid, not VAR. The reason handball decisions seem ludicrous is because it's been a joke for years, not VAR.

Right but isn't it doubled down because the ridiculousness of the situation was supposed to be eliminated by "removing" the human element? Or am I missing this entirely?

Remember when Tony Pulis said Gnabry wasn't good enough for West Brom?

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Is there a decision made by VAR this year that’s been wrong?

I like the cricket analogy. Offside is the caught behind where there is a 'definite' answer, and everything else is subject to the dreaded Umpire's Call.

Why don't they do the little look at the tv thing for the onfield ref anymore? In many of these marginal situations I'm sure a referee would be more likely to change their mind than someone in a tv room hundreds of miles away would be to overrule them. At least go through the charade.

Yes. 4 officially: https://www.forbes.com/sites/cybrown.../#106965f56fa9. And then many more where they refuse to overrule a wrong ruling by the on-field official in case they do the same to them the following week when they're in the middle.