There's nothing really left for the characters to develop into. All the cards are on the table and now it's just a straight-up ruck between good vs evil (once Cersei is inevitably sorted out)
There's nothing really left for the characters to develop into. All the cards are on the table and now it's just a straight-up ruck between good vs evil (once Cersei is inevitably sorted out)
I'm still hopeful that the Night's King will turn out to be something other than an inexplicable bogeyman, but hopes are fading on that score.
You and several other people by the looks of it. There's various theories out there about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I like the idea of him and his mates being the equivalent of CTRL, ALT & DEL when things get a little too fucked.
Given the nature of his creation I would assume it's either revenge for what was done to him, or him wanting to purge Westeros of the First Men, which sort of was the reason of his creation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron
I suppose Jaime is the only one still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
Given GRRM has outlined the main points for them to complete it, that'll include the Night King so I'd like to think there's more there.
I know it says Series 6 in the title, but been watching the whole thing again before the new series starts. The drop off from series 4 into series 5 is scandalous.
One of the series' was absolute wank, probably was season 5.
It's been wank since they switched to making it a show for the American mass market, somewhere around 4/5. 1, 2 and to some extent 3 are far superior to the later ones.
Because 1,2 and 3 (especially 1 which is still the best season) are almost word for word remakes of the books. The further they strayed from it the more it dropped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
They stopped being able to lift dialogue and scenes straight from the book. It's the same reason any spin off series will be utter turd.
If someone ever does a nine hour word-for-word movie of Feast for Crows (or whichever one it is where we follow Brienne around taverns and bogs for about 700 pages) then I'm buying that cinema ticket.
In all seriousness, though, it has seriously lost its way of late because the whole reason the whole series is good is because of the good/evil ambiguity in almost all characters. As soon as you introduce King Dave White-Wanker in the north and then utterly fail to develop him and his mates for 60 episodes, you've lost what's great about the story.
It may just be me but the books felt far more subtle about the spooky/supernatural aspects which played into the way most people would ignore/discount them in universe. I appreciate it's easier to do that in print but I don't think the way it's been presented in the series is as good.
That book was so fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
With a matinee performance of Bran trudging through THE NORTH worrying about his dog and having shit dreams that don't mean anything for what felt like five whole volumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
As the books and show has gone on it's also relied more and more on the actors who really dominate every scene they're in and made it worth sticking with. Of course then they all get killed off and things suffer.
"Anyone can die " is good writing until it turns into "everyone dies."
The one thing I always remember from it is a glorious what seemed like 1,000 word essay on Davos eating a fish soup in White Harbour. Martin writing about plates of food in detail is the best Martin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Yes, whether it's the others/walkers or the red god stuff, it's always just simmering in the background, not even as an is it / isn't it mystery, but as a rumbling unease about to what extent these things exist and to what extent they may permeate the lives of the many characters. On film you have to have Act 1 Scene 1, Int., WOMAN WITH NIPPLES STARES GLEEFULLY AT A FIRE which is never going to be quite the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
Now I'm just imagining the seethe if they used 20 minutes of the final season on Davos getting some soup. :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Davos doing/saying anything is the immediate highlight of any episode.
Davos is ace.
As a time on screen : donning it ratio Oberyn was right up there. You know, until he idiotically let the Mountain kill him.
That scene in the dungeon with Tyrion is one of the best bits of show.
Oberyn getting biffed the way he did is presumably a direct lift from the book, but given how pointless Zombie Mountain has been and how good Oberyn was they should definitely have gone their own way on that.
We need the Mountain (zombie or otherwise) for Cleganebowl - gethype, airhorns, mountain dew, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
That would be anti-thetical to the book. The good guys die.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
I think the only good thing about Mt. Zombie so far is when it briefly looked like Cersei might set him on Jamie.
I kinda hope she will end up shagging him. That would be great.
Oberyn had to die in order to trigger the next phase of Tyrion's story.
I'm still annoyed that they never put Strong Belwas into the show.
What a don he was.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47659373
Do you all feel terrible now?
Nope. She couldn't act in the first season either so she's not having that as an excuse.
Aneurysms made her a bit better if anything.
I think season 6 almost gave me one of those.
I'm surprised at the amount of whinging in here. I watched it all through a few months ago now and loved it.
I got really bored of this show and missed the last 2 seasons, but I'm going all in on this season. With a vengeance.
It's been going on for so long that I'm just waiting until everything is finished (if it ever is) before even considering picking it up again.
I reckon a hardcore book fan would do better not watching it past where the books stop - if, at least, you think he will ever release another book.
That's what I've done, haven't watched more than a few bits of the last two series. I gave up trying to avoid spoilers long ago because it's been twenty years and I don't really care anymore.
Spoiler alert: he's a better writer than TV execs are.
Well, technically. Only one of them has actually written book whatever-number-we're-on-now.
Tv execs aren't the ones writing the episodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
No but they pay the people who do.
So are publishers writing the books?
The premiere was last night. Jesus Christ Brienne.
https://i.imgur.com/zoqj0cs.jpg
Is this ever coming out? The marketing pitch for this has been so weird, feel like I watched a tralier for it a month ago and watched the last episode about 2 years ago.
It's out on Sunday.