Football! But in May!!

Yes that's right it's all coming to a SCINTILLATING conclusion as Man City gear up to close out another entirely sterile title win, probably another FA Cup win (though that's next month) and hopefully get lolled out of the Champions League.... though if they do that'll just mean Real are likely to win it again.

Exciting stuff! The top four might already look like how it's going to finish unless United totally beef it (not impossible) so I guess it's down to the relegation battle to provide the entertainment. Yay.

Championship playoff battle is more interesting than anything in the top flight.

Outside chance Chelsea will be playing in it next year too.

Pretty sure that’s impossible now Nottingham Forrest and Leeds have shit the bed. Still, would be funny to see Chelsea finish 15th or 16th. They’re definitely not getting another point this season

A mate and I were curious to see how long it would take Frank Lampard to drop below a 50% win ratio with Chelsea when he came back, but he managed that as quickly as he could, so I've got nothing now.

How about Chelsea gets no further points this season and then a points deduction for being in some breach of Premier League FFP? That would possibly sneak them in.

They haven’t breached anything though

I never pay much attention to the Championship until around this time every year. Those are some 1988 ass looking play-offs.

I know that, I'm just delving into the realm of complete fantasy.

Anyway, Gateshead's FA Trophy final against Halifax Town in on the 21st. 11th vs 14th in the National League. They played out a goalless draw in their last meeting. So ... errr... expect some of the same.

Can't believe Heckaday will be lolling at us on the way up. :happycry:

Big game today.

If Everton go down they're immediately fucked. They'd be demanded to pay £150m back on a loan upon relegation and it'd put their shiny new half built stadium in doubt. Not even like they could sell many players off to cover it because they have no one of note really.

Everton or Leicester going down would be decent. Forest are harmless so I don't care, Leeds would be lol for obvious reasons but also harmless. Probably Everton because of the chaos it would cause and because I thought I would never live to see the day.

If Luton come up, that fantastic Sunday league ground they have with be banned?

I think they'll be okay. All the Premier League care about is whether it's all seater.

They have to spend about ~£10m on it to meet certain standards but if they do, they'll be allowed.

They have grass now I presume. I still remember them some time around the early 90’s with the green concrete.

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Big game today.

If Everton go down they're immediately fucked. They'd be demanded to pay £150m back on a loan upon relegation and it'd put their shiny new half built stadium in doubt. Not even like they could sell many players off to cover it because they have no one of note really.

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I've just had a look and christ their squad really is absolutely rancid. Their most valuable asset must be "England number 1" Jordan Pickford and who the fuck is going to buy him? Calvert-Lewin the other one but he has scored 6 in 30 over the past 2 seasons.

If Leeds do go down they are in big trouble. They owe 20 million or something for that lol Augustin "signing".

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I've just had a look and christ their squad really is absolutely rancid. Their most valuable asset but be "England number 1" Jordan Pickford and who the fuck is going to buy him?

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Spurs. Maybe Sunderland if they fancy getting one of their own back.

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Shame. Lampard relegating 2 teams in one season would have been incredible.

The current Everton team would probably be the best Championship team ever. They'll sell half the squad and still be favourites to win it unless Leicester go down as well.

Forest and Leeds are going to end up going down with Southampton, which is the worst outcome currently available sadly.

Leeds gone would never be a bad outcome.

https://i.gyazo.com/6c07443985942f03...9a874f0f73.png

Leeds: Man City(a), Newcastle(h), West Ham(a), Spurs(h)

Forest: Southampton(h), Chelsea(a), Arsenal(h), Palace(a)

Leicester: Everton(h), Fulham(a), Liverpool(h), Newcastle(a), West Ham(h)

Everton: Leicester(a), Brighton(a), Man City(h), Wolves(a), Bournemouth(h)

Southampton: Forest(a), Fulham(h), Brighton(a), Liverpool(h)

From the looks of it, all teams involved will be against someone with nothing to play for in the last game. Forest being the only one away from home.

Even Southampton have a chance with 3 teams in such a position, though Brighton my be dependant on how close to Europa League they are. They should have 6th at least secured by then but who knows.
Evertons next 3 are scary for them, but their final two games are extremely winnable. I think they'll just scrape through.

You'd suggest if Leicester are going to pull clear it will be in their next 3.

Dyche needs sacked if he starts a midfield 3 of Doucoure, Onana and Gueye once again.

If we have anything about us we'll let Forest win 4-0 at the Bridge. We don't have anything about us, so we'll probably win 3-0 and declare ourselves to be BACK.

Anything but a Blackburn win here is the dream result, it would mean that avoiding defeat at Boro and not having to rely on other results would confirm a playoff spot almost exactly 5 years after we squeaked into the L2 equivalent. We've only really had one normal season in the last 10 years but this has the potential to be the weirdest of the lot

Everton digging themselves out of it here. Good start from them.

If Everton don't go this year then they never will ever. Twenty-five years overdue and still thieving a living.

They're done.

Leicester’s XI better in every position by a wide margin, and I’m including Daniel Iverson in that.

How was Danny Ward starting ahead of this guy?

Ouch. Coleman is done now, surely.

That's a dislocated knee or ACL for Coleman.

Coleman. :sick:

Probably for the best - can’t believe he and Keane have both been starting every week. Best full back, centre half, centre mid and winger all on the bench :D

Dyche is the type of person to not start Patterson because he's a right-back wearing 3.

Oh dear.

Pickford. :D

If Leicester stay up I hope they wheel that gimpy little Jamie Vardy lookalike out. It's been too long.

My bet aside surely Vardy is the best penalty taker they have?

Horrible club. Be great to see them languish.

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Why do you support them then?

No chance they're going. The city of Liverpool couldn't function.

The missed penalty looking huge now.

Mongford came out to play there.

Big Sam to Leeds. :D

Bielsa to Allardyce in 12 months, what a journey.

Perhaps the most damning indictment of our current situation is that this is preferable to me to carrying on how we are for the rest of the season. Obviously it's laughable but I would prefer this. That's how much of a state we've ended up in.

They couldn't have hired him yesterday?

What a May football thread it would have been had it been dedicated to Big Sam.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/65443980

Strange content.

Has Tielemans been missing penalties for Leicester? The only explanation of that Maddison penalty is he was trying to miss it so he can get out of there when they get relegated.

He’s definitely missed at least one this season. Sky zoomed in on Pickford’s bottle which had the stats for him, Maddison and Vardy on it. Majority of Maddison’s were down the middle and 100% of Tielemans were to the keepers right.

People need to go back to the days of Shearer when taking them. I'm sure almost all of his went to the 'keepers right, but he leathered fuck out of them so they had almost no chance.

Why have they been starting Ienacho over Vardy anyway, Vardy breaking the offside trap for his goal still looked spritely for his age. Surely in this situation you throw your lot in with the most legendary player in the club's history.

Haaland seems to be like that. Small sample size so far but the keepers seem to always go the right way on his but don't stop it because he laces it right into the corner. Van Nistelrooy sticks out as someone who was really great at doing that too.

The fabled 'brains behind Lampard at Derby', Jody Morris, leaves Swindon Town after 4 wins in 18, taking us from play offs to mid table. I perhaps would have been happy to give him the summer and a transfer window, but also not devastated that the morose little gimp has shuffled off.

Back to the warm bosom of Chelsea's youth set up for him and Ed Brand I expect.

Lampard was the brains behind Lampard at Derby. He'd probably do well in that kind of job again tbh, won't take one though.

Jody Morris has always just been a lippy little prick who is Lampard's mate.

Surely Mount was the brains behind Lampard at Derby, although fair play to Frank for picking him out of relative obscurity to front the operation.

Also:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65453756

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Haaland seems to be like that. Small sample size so far but the keepers seem to always go the right way on his but don't stop it because he laces it right into the corner. Van Nistelrooy sticks out as someone who was really great at doing that too.

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Aye, Salah's best run of taking them seemed to coincide with him just lacing them as well. Get it in the corner with enough pace and it's pretty much impossible to stop them.

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When are people in sport going to get it that unfortunately at the minute women's football is just not as marketable as men's football? This constant of trying to ram it down my throat on the BBC and SKY is insufferable it's not like other women's sports are shoved down my throat in the same manner and I expect sports coverage to be aimed on the amount of people who are actually interested in it not just because everything should be 50/50. Sport as entertainment just doesn't work like that.

Shoved down your throat :D

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Isn't it just. The scenes when he keeps us up with horrific football though. :drool:

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That's twice in about three days somebody on TTH has worded it that way about something that's very easy not to engage with.

That was me, making a point about the snooker that coverage pre-final was abysmal both on TV and the website. Contrast that to the WSL which is everywhere on both, despite having a third of the viewership of the snooker.

I don't really care one way or the other, but highlighted my point well that clearly number of eyes on the product doesn't matter all that much.

The only way it's 'shoved down your throat' is by it appearing among the headlines on BBC Sport website, which is probably fair enough in most cases as it is a pretty popular sport. I doubt it's much different to men's rugby league or something like that in terms of attendance and viewership (though it would be interesting to see the stats).

Otherwise you can just not watch the broadcasts if you aren't interested in it, the same as I don't watch WWE or Antiques Roadshow despite Sky and the Beeb shoving them down my throat.

Just seen the video of Klopp running into the face of the 4th official after our winner.

He's such a cunt sometimes. I only watched the first half, but I doubt the 4th official did anything noteworthy to deserve that.

Genuinely hope he gets a 3 game ban or something. Yes, refs are twats, but they are essential to our game, and if we let managers and players continue to treat them as they do, they'll be no refs left soon. Either that or one of the refs needs to be fucking smack him and teach him a lesson.

Bad choice of words but in the article it tells you that for the mens World Cup they made between $100-$200 million. For the women's they are offering $1-$10 million my point being that trying to compare mens and women's football is like trying to compare two different sports. Or perhaps County Championship Cricket and the IPL yes technically they are the same game but the viewership and thus how much companies are willing to pay to broadcast it are not really comparable at all.

To me it's lazy journalism to compare the two world cups surely a good comparison would be the women's Euro's or Champions League figures to give what the potential baseline for the women's world cup could be.

Why give a fuck either way is more my point? Who cares what gets paid to who?

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Genuinely hope he gets a 3 game ban or something. Yes, refs are twats, but they are essential to our game, and if we let managers and players continue to treat them as they do, they'll be no refs left soon. Either that or one of the refs needs to be fucking smack him and teach him a lesson.

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I think people just need to scream at referees for emotional reasons. When robot refs come in and get every decision right, it will be such a fucking bad sport. Will probably actually kill its popularity.

Every other sport (with the possible exception of rugby league which is just full of pie-eating lippy shits) doesn't have the same relationship with officials, as there's a sort of binding contract that you need to respect the officials to have a game. Football lacks this, which makes me think that football sees itself more as an arm of society than as a sport.

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The only way it's 'shoved down your throat' is by it appearing among the headlines on BBC Sport website, which is probably fair enough in most cases as it is a pretty popular sport. I doubt it's much different to men's rugby league or something like that in terms of attendance and viewership (though it would be interesting to see the stats).

Otherwise you can just not watch the broadcasts if you aren't interested in it, the same as I don't watch WWE or Antiques Roadshow despite Sky and the Beeb shoving them down my throat.

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All of the coverage is fine, apart from when it comes to the football section of the BBC website, where I simply shouldn't have to be looking for what Premier League matches are on as they're hidden behind WSL or WCL matches.

That's more of a problem with the BBC website being a disastrous mess and the content populated by northern 22 year olds hired for their cheapness.

On another note, I thought this magnificent - https://www.theguardian.com/football...e_iOSApp_Other - by Jonathan Liew on United.

Particularly this summation of what being a football fan apparently is now:

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“We want our club back,” read the many protest banners billowing across Manchester on Sunday afternoon as United fans carried out their latest protest. “Full sale only”, was another common refrain: a rejection of Ratcliffe’s (rumoured) plan to buy only a majority stake in the club. The eagle-eyed among you may have spotted the slight inconsistency in the messaging. The only bidders currently offering a “full sale” are the Qataris: those famous delegators of power, men of the people. Alas, were you to put the phrase “50+1” to Sheikh Jassim, he would probably ask what Alejandro Garnacho’s shirt number has to do with any of this.

It’s hard to pin too much blame on United fans here. Like many of us in this deeply corrupted sport they are not simply powerless but so deeply embedded in the transfer-industrial complex that they are essentially participants. In the same way that voters are drawn to billionaire politicians because of the fantasy that they are somehow incorruptible, there is a strand of fan that actively craves the illiberal state benefactor on the basis that they will be unencumbered by outdated impulses like turning a profit. Debase us. Sportswash us. But do sign us Victor Osimhen while you’re at it.

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I've been wondering the same since all this sale talk kicked off. But it'll be justified by the United fans as the horse already having bolted and this is the only way to compete.

I've given up. Apparently it's more desirable to have a murderous nation state own us and have the chance to buy all the big players than have any moral conditions. The move from the glazers takeover/FC United birth to fully embracing a Qatar takeover is indicative on how fucked football is.

As undesirable as it is to have the glazers hang around, it's much more preferable than the alternative.

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Yeah the BBC website is rage inducing. I don't even mind them doing it on the cheap per se, but I wish they could just do it slightly less on the cheap.

I ain't got no MBA, and have a very limited understanding of how organisations are run, but at pretty much every large organisation I've worked at, there always seems to be this obsession with throwing the budget at the more shiny, exciting and senior level stuff, whilst trying to make savings by cutting the more boring, procedural stuff to the point where it barely functions.

I know saying something like "just pay Gary Linekar 100 grand less, and employ a few more people to write on the BBC website" sounds like the most brain-dead naive GIVE NURSES FOOTBALLERS WAGES nonsense ever, but then I see the number of typos and factual errors on even the incredibly high traffic live football updates and front page news articles, and I'm not entirely convinced it's that much more complex than that.

It also reminds me of how mindlessly rigid assigned budgets are. At the previous place I worked (the one I chose to leave, not the one I got sacked from), I found out they'd had some low level admin job that they couldn't fill for months, and it turns out they'd only listed it on the specialist charity jobs site (where people aren't going to be looking for data entry jobs), cus the "budget didn't allow" for them to pay the £500 or whatever to list it on monster etc. Around that same time the IT manager was telling his staff that they had £50k left to spend before the end of the financial year, and was asking if they fancied getting random software they didn't need, cus might as well right.

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On another note, I thought this magnificent - https://www.theguardian.com/football...e_iOSApp_Other - by Jonathan Liew on United.

Particularly this summation of what being a football fan apparently is now:

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Yeah it was really good as Liew always is. And he's right.

Allardyce to blow the title race wide open on Saturday.

Not sure why I'm bothering to stay up till 3.45am for this Arsenal game but I am so bring on the lols as they smash Lamps.

What tactical abomination has the dreadful one opted for tonight then?

Starting at least 4 players that won’t be there next season. He really is a bit shit

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I've given up. Apparently it's more desirable to have a murderous nation state own us and have the chance to buy all the big players than have any moral conditions. The move from the glazers takeover/FC United birth to fully embracing a Qatar takeover is indicative on how fucked football is.

As undesirable as it is to have the glazers hang around, it's much more preferable than the alternative.

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It’s everywhere though. Every Liverpool fan who I go watch us with would happily take Qatar or Saudi. When I said I at the minimum I wouldn’t go to matches any more and definitely couldn’t enjoy it in the way I have done before they all looked at me like I had two heads.

I think it’s hard to say you could 100% detach yourself from something you have enjoyed for 30 odd years and I don’t know exactly how I would handle the whole situation but they wouldn’t get another penny of my money and I think more than likely I’d also get rid of all the tv packages on that basis as well because that money would also indirectly go to the club.

Morality and things with a lot of money in it do not tend to mix. Unfortunately football is at that point now where you're having to choose, or facing that choice pretty soon.

Chelsea might go about -10 in GD in this match and Man City away in a few weeks. Do well to keep todays score under 4 anyway.

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It reached that point ages ago. The trick it's pulled to convince people it hasn't is a quite brilliant one.

He’s got them set up as if they’re Burton Albion and even then they’re still wide open. What an absolute mess

Kepa is just so shit, why does he start for them?

Because Mendy is shitter.

Isn't Kepa one of the best keepers on the league this season if you believe the STATS MATE?

Messi SUSPENDED by PSG for taking an unsanctioned trip to Saudi.

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This could be a battering.

Mark Selby losing and Frank Lampard getting battered in consecutive days. I'm not sure life gets any better.

Someone euthanise Chelsea. This is horrifying.

Frank. :harold:

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Only Leno & Alisson rank above him in the Premier League.

Presumably this ends 3-3.

You’d think after 5 defeats in a row he’d realise not to play the players that don’t care and won’t be here lol. He’s so bad

Frank Lampard needs to fuck off abroad like Yev on one of his journeyman saves. Maybe MLS or something because his reputation here can’t be any more shit.

He’s got Kante playing as some sort of second striker and Madueke trying to tuck in and cover for him. An utter mess

United have never been this bad. How have they managed it?

He's got the MEDIA BACKING required to walk in top flight jobs for years to come.

You can hear it. "This isn't Franks fault."

They've still got Potter under contract right? Can they not just say come back Graham, all is forgiven, have another go in the summer with an actual pre-season rather than appointing 'Poch' who will clearly be another catastrophe?

That first half from Sterling on an individual level was incredible but even so, it pales into absolute insignificance to the team. The fat greasy gammon is working wonders.

I said Cucurella was the worst signing but Sterling isn’t far behind. Tuchel’s signings have been properly tragic.

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He’s been shite. Concedes from outside of the box every other week. Not his fault he’s tiny I suppose.

Kovacic and Sterling still on the pitch. Lolz

Thiago Silva :cool:

What a don.

Arsenal fans booing Mudryk :D

A midfield 3 of Kovacic, Kante and Gallagher. Bloody hell. No positional awareness in that midfield whatsoever. Press, press, press

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It’s everywhere though. Every Liverpool fan who I go watch us with would happily take Qatar or Saudi. When I said I at the minimum I wouldn’t go to matches any more and definitely couldn’t enjoy it in the way I have done before they all looked at me like I had two heads.

I think it’s hard to say you could 100% detach yourself from something you have enjoyed for 30 odd years and I don’t know exactly how I would handle the whole situation but they wouldn’t get another penny of my money and I think more than likely I’d also get rid of all the tv packages on that basis as well because that money would also indirectly go to the club.

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There's fuck all morality in the game of being the best at football. Community is dead.

There's no place for sentiment when billions are being tossed about.

As if the starting line up wasn’t bad enough with players who won’t be there next season, he’s now brought on a bloke who is only at the club because of a faulty printer

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Maybe Yevrah was right all along just supporting Sky.

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It was amusing to watch the Super League toys out of the pram on here, as if the game at the top level (and some below) hadn't gone to hell in a handcart years ago. It's been an entertainment business, with profit or self relevance being the driver for decades now.

I think the main Super League complaint - on The Third Half dot com at least - was that it would have been shit and having Tottenham involved was lol, rather than people suddenly realising that the game was gone.

Fair enough, but even that was misguided, you've seen the new format for the Champions League, right?

Whisper it but Chelsea will be fine whoever they appoint and easily finish top 6 next season.

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Yeah it looks crap. Bring back the second group stage.

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Not really sure it should be much of a surprise. 1 game a week and half the mongs offloaded. Poch will have some fun, especially when he signs an actual striker and DM.

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The second group stage was banging.

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This encompasses all outcomes between winning the league [nope] and sacking the manager after 20 games if they are 6th or whatever and have lost 3 games in a row [more likely].

Stephen Ireland, the best there was.

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We've scored 31 goals this season and those in the top six have scored ~60, where is the doubled attacking output coming from?

Lukaku.

Allardyce confirmed.

To be assisted by Karl Robinson because Sammy Lee is on jury service. :D

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Brighton will jump 30+ goals this season, if they can do it on the wage bill of a singular Baba Rahman then I think you'll be alright.

I am champing at the bit for next August's prediction thread to predict us for a 16th place finish. We're going to see that gleaming mean of yours and walk into a lamp post.

I'm watching Big Sam's press conference and I won't lie, it's top level. A direct quote - "There's nobody ahead of me in footballing terms. Not Pep, not Klopp, not Arteta". :cool:

I know it's a ridiculous situation but my absolute apathy for the last four games of the seem has disappeared completely. I still fully expect us to go down but I'm definitely very interested to see what happens again at least.

Big Sam being back is brilliant.

Just realised Warrington Town got promoted to National League North so will be playable on FM24 without addons.

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Bet the place went mental!

Obviously would much rather it was FC St. Helens (or St. Helens Town) but nice to have a proper local team fairly high up the leagues, that isn’t Southport.

At least it was Warrington Town's year.

:D
I get that reference!

I don’t even think there was even any contact for that Liverpool penalty that was given. Klopp and his crying doing wonders.

Must not mention the 'vendetta', must not mention the 'vendetta'......

Trent again the best player on the pitch in this new role, but again asking Konate to play two positions at once has left us quite light at the back at times.

It's been quite entertaining for what is essentially a pointless game.

Who could we sign that could play Konates role well?

Carles Puyol.

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You either have to commit to playing him as a midfielder and sign a right back, or get a midfielder in who can do the legwork Henderson used to, to cover him.

Timber time :cool:

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Isn't he also another centre back?

I really hope Liverpool continue this set up with Alexander Arnold next year. They’ll get utterly embarrassed by decent teams (though probably will score a few themselves).

Watching him since half time has been hilarious. Well done mate, you can switch the ball well.

35 in 31 for Haaland to break the Premiership record.

Bonkers.

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Watching him since half time has been hilarious. Well done mate, you can switch the ball well.

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You could see it in the Spurs game. They went 3-0 down but soon realised they could get joy down our right over and over.

It's why I say I hope this isn't it. I hope there's a plan to either get him proper cover or get a right back in.

Spurs have been punting the ball over the top of the right back position for about 4 years against Liverpool [and many other teams have been late adopters to the tactic], so probably not something directly related to this new in-out fullback business which seems to be in vogue.

Well, yeah, people have always targeted him because he’s just a bit shit defending his goal. He barely even bothers to cover the right hand side now though.

I’m sure it’s just an experimental thing since these games are pretty pointless now until the end of the year.

He should really be playing as a CM

He's very much a Pirlo regen now. If we source another Robbo-style pacey RB, we'll be tasty af, otherwise, get Trent back into RB and just make the midfield function and it'll be fine. Gakpo in the central role ensures success next season either way.

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5* manager Owen Coyle roaring back in focus. @seniorguvnor playing the long game.

They’ve properly shit the bed since January. They’re also bankrolled by dodgy millionaires trying to launder their drug money so I’m not really sure they’re overachieving or anything like that.

They’re also building ‘lesser Hampden’ which isn’t even suitable for the top league so they’ve made a massive cunt up there.

No Pascal Gross tonight?

Why has Caicedo got a body cam on? What the fuck is happening?

Mitoma should have buried that.

Rashford’s first touch rivals that of Lukaku.

The Brighton tactic of getting their CB to stand on the ball is great.

If there's no pass on the CB will stop the ball dead, which essentially tells the team tor reset their movement. Usually a few seconds later there's a line splitting pass played and they move the ball really well.

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He also goes down rolling about with an injury every single game without fail. He must be a properly massive pussy

Could do with the VAR being empowered to tell the ref to book Rashford there.

Rashford has forgotten about the shot clock today.

Done well to somehow get away with no red card there

Get him off the pitch, this lot are a disgrace.

Now a yellow for Antony kicking someone because he’s a manlet. Christ.

And Dunk gets a yellow for pushing Antony who then does likewise. Makes sense

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Antony would get murdered.

I love Antony. Proper bog rat.

Dreadful player.

Luke Shaw is a pudding.

Some penalty

I was looking at the Man U fixtures just now to see if they still have to play Liverpool again (sadly not) and whilst doing so found that on 26 July they are playing Wrexham at 2.30am, in San Diego California. Game properly gone now.

Wrexham's a classic pre-season starter, albeit not traditionally in San Diego.

Man Utd have lost 7 and drawn 1 against the top 9 away from home this year in 8 games. Sitting deep and trying to nail it over the defenders head for Rashford to run onto must not really work against okay teams.

Messi abandoning PSG is quite amusing. Hopefully they completely collapse. Winner of Lens v Marseille on Saturday evening to take the title.

Sign the fake Argie Scottish twat, solid and tidy enough and gave Bruno and Antony the fucking talkin the two gyppos deserve. That fat pudding giving away the last minute pen too, inject it.

Favela gammon favella gammon.

The team have reverted back into only being able to play well for a half at most. The obvious thing is we create chances and fail to take them leading to pressure later. The lack of goalscorers is the thing that needs fixing next season, it can't just be rashford.

Martial has reverted back to full comatose mode and looks like he is on some kind of horse tranquilliser every time he steps on the pitch. Have to get rid of him in the summer

Untied look very 2005-2010 Mourinho-era vintage football to me. Very negative and reliant on a [too] small number of attacking players to do anything positive. Maybe that's a personnel issue, but it looks like more than that to me. I'm also not convinced that the rat alliance of Antony/Fernandes/Garnacho is ever going to be a really winning combination in English football.

They can take Joao Felix off our hands and complete the full rodent population, albeit this one's on heavy sedatives.

It warms the heart to look through the Utd squad and see not a single player who you can confidently say is good enough for a side wanting to win things. And yet almost every single one has serious question marks about their discipline, temperament and general mentality thanks to being afforded to embrace their favela spine by a weak and incompetent manager. Absolutely love it.

Is garnacho really a "rat"? Not sure he's done much to earn that accolade.

If he isn't yet, he will be with the 'senior pros' he has around him.

I didn’t realise he was only 18. Got a kid on the way as well. Hope it doesn’t get his looks

He's got the dive and roll around schtick nailed down very well for a 18 year old, I'll give him that.

2-1 win tomorrow to help Arsenal win the league.

Sadly even with a Big Sam favour, we fucked it so badly against Liverpool West Ham and Southampton that it’s still require a result for Brighton or Brentford.

Fun fact, the only two teams we haven’t recorded a win against this year sit in 1st and 20th.

Sadly even with a Big Sam favour, we fucked it so badly against Liverpool West Ham and Southampton that it’s still require a result for Brighton or Brentford.

Fun fact, the only two teams we haven’t recorded a win against this year sit in 1st and 20th.

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The issue (no striker aside) remains that everyone not in the first 11 is pretty much rubbish. By this point in the season the good players are knackered from playing every game. Rotating doesn't work because then you've got Fred playing and not rotating doesn't work because Rashford and Bruno start dying.

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He does seem like a bit of a rat.

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Gee whizz, that really is a fun fact.

Golly.

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Racist. :|

Fuck.

@phonics

You own that pub in Grays, don't you. :sherlock:

I see that new EFL tv deal is going down well with fans. There are 552 matches in each league every season. 328 of those are being televised in the Championship and can’t be played on a Saturday at 3pm.

That’s gonna fuck over my BTTS long shots on a Saturday at 3pm

Why have I only just seen this? :lol:

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Tremendous.

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It's a mess. Mass lunchtime kickoffs are the death of football culture, especially down there. £400 million extra cash though to buy world class star players with. Messi, all those lads.

Presumably coronation related but the schedule for this run of games is quite deranged

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An evening game at Anfield and they want the national anthem played before kick off.

I wonder how that's going to go? :p

Anything that keeps us off the TV is a good schedule.

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My very royal loving and patriotic mother in law is down, I look forward to her upset at the booing.

How are they getting away with showing a game at 3pm on a Saturday? What a shambles.

Coronation probably.

There's smallprint which suspends the blackout if Big Sam personally authorises it.

I believe the wording is special dispensation.

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Was expecting some proper Eastern European rough-housing (see Zenit vs Spartak brawl of last week) and instead I got...

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Meslier dropped. :drool:

"hard to beat"

"Back to basics"

Same old shite.

Bamford shouldn't be anywhere near this level.

Gakpo, Nunez, Jota and Salah all starting. All out attack it is then.

Unless something catastrophic happens in Manchester it's still almost a pointless game but should be fun.

The Kante performance here was awful but Havertz was ridiculous, absolutely nothing even attempted, man just got it and made safe 3 yard backpasses at his peak. Felix benched for these clowns is terrorism.

Anthem getting the respect it deserves.

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Such a weird city.

Great guys.

All of the female BBC commentators are fucking awful. Shrill and/or boring narrative crap.

#Sexist

I'll take any of them over Jenas.

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That amount of scorn is usually reserved for witnesses to kids being murdered.

Some of the 1-touch passing and Pirlo doing his thing :drool:

Brentford trying their best to turn this into an NFL match.

Great first 20 mins or so but then every 30 seconds there was a free kick.

The Brentford fairytale is over, get these diving shithouses into the champ ffs.

6 game winning streak, think only Arsenal and City can match that feat this season :huhu:

Seko Fofana is some don.

Shocked Chelsea won a game when not playing guys that won’t be there next season. Well, that and playing better when Badiashile is on the pitch. Some plur

If Holding and Kiwior start today could be a Spursy opening 20 minutes.

Notts County would have had enough points to have gone up in all 43 previous seasons of this league.

They're about to get dumped out in the play off semi final.

That was always gonna happen after all the crying about only 2 teams being relegated from League 2 (which seems fuck all tbf)

The kickoff times for todays Premier League games are a travesty.

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They're about to get dumped out in the play off semi final.

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Just saved themselves and sent it to extra time.

Boreham Wood denied a stonewall penalty at the death.

Probably should have been one given at both ends after the 97th minute equaliser. Mental stuff.

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Boreham Wood keeper has fucked it at the death.

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It's rather odd, League 1 has four relegation spots, National League also has four and League 2 randomly has two.

It was one until relatively recently and zero (election) before that - in theory it's the division between professional and semi-pro/amateur ranks so those above have (again in theory) proved they are sustainable at that level. I would reduce it to one again and then have a playoff between 23rd and 2nd for the last spot. Would stop a load of shark businessmen bankrupting non-league teams trying to get promoted.

If this is a penalty I have officially just given up on the handball rule as a concept.

Arsenal a bit of a mess. Penalty rightly overturned though.

That's a lovely finish.

As I said. Arsenal well on top here.

How has Pope not got anywhere near that? It wasn’t exactly in the corner or a strike with a huge amounts of power

Lukaku-esque first touch from Murphy there.

Against the run of play should be the strap line for Arsenal's season.

The size difference in these teams is properly mental. Shame Newcastle have every hit every corner or free kick so far

If Arsenal win the league Arteta reaches Klopp levels of dislikeable.

Quite a few Newcastle players should be in the book. Ref doesn't seem interested.

This Newcastle team complaining about timewasting :D

Half of them should be a on a yellow as well. What a bunch of dirty little scrotes.

I presume Newcastle weren’t booing their plays at half time lol

What are they booing about? They're lucky not to be 2-3 down and still have 11 men on the pitch.

Football fans will boo anything that goes against them. Even a standard VAR overturn.

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Eh? How are they lucky to have 11 men on the pitch :lol:

Compete in the Book Bruno Guimares Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

The ref has gotta have a bet on no cards to be shown at this point.

Player of the season between the two Norwegians?

Being given the captain's armband has been the making of Odegaard.

Just seen a video of Shearer crying about not getting that penalty. Good stuff. Good stuff.

We've just got into touching distance of the two above, but United have a piss easy run in after this one.

Newcastle also relatively easy now too. But if Brighton beat them you never know.

I'm not treating it as a guarantee. Would be class to see us in third but it's real tight.

De Gea needs putting down.

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A shame it's not on Sky Sports, as we'd have Roy Keane telling De Gea to get a taxi back to Manchester.

He's gone for that shot like it's his first time in goal.

Man United looking like they're the ones who've been blowing bubbles before the game.

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Scrote.

Aye, it's just a dose of our own medicine.

Arsenal put a couple of wins together and we're back to 2010 and nobody is allowed to get about them.

Remember when I said Liverpool might come 3rd and everyone lolled.

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When Liverpool have to play Leicester and Southampton in their last 3 games, it's a huge possibility.

Newcastle are away to Chelsea on the last day so that could be significant.

I also think Man United may flop at Bournemouth in a couple of weeks. Bournemouth go all out at home and can suddenly turn up with Billing running the show and take you apart.

Bournemouth will be on the beach then surely. Liverpool's problem is they have 9 maximum points left to take against three teams that will be scrapping like mad. United really are playing 4 teams who are going to be mid table. Newcastle have the trickiest run in but are also the best team of the three so I expect they will win their two home games and smash Frank to take 9 from a possible 12.

Brighton could also make it up there, but have to still play Newcastle, Arsenal and City themselves.

I think Liverpool just started the winning run a couple of games too late. Even if they win all 3 remaining, which I don't think they will, you're still needing United to drop points twice and I don't see them doing that in any of their home games.

If Newcastle get Big Sam'd at Leeds then maybe there's a chance, but I can't see it.

The problem with Man Utd is their squad depth. Once they have their strongest XI playing like the likes of Phil Jones and Lee Grant they should have enough to cling on to top 4.

We'll stroll to EL glory tbf but if a minimum CL semi is worth more coefficient points, maybe we should just get put forward as the CL side for the benefit of English football (as well as mid-table shite like Utd who may need a 5th place in future).

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We really need 30 minute halves and the clock being stopped every time the whistle is blown.

We really don't.

United couldnt have won yesterday if they had 60 minuets halfs. You even had the ref, linos and var in your pocket and still fucked it up. :youpi:

No we didn't.

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Decent last day for the Championship today.

Middlesborough at home to Coventry, with Boro having nothing to play for and a point being good enough for Coventry I reckon they play out a draw.

Millwall are at home to Blackburn which should be good because both have to win, though Blackburn need big favours from elsewhere.

Sunderland are away at Preston and West Brom are away to Swansea. Could well be some final day madness about.

I haven't watched Millwall for years, glad to see their midfield of Billy Mitchell and George Saville has the exact names that a Millwall midfield pairing should always have. Hint of east end gangster combined with general oi oi credentials.

We've not won at Boro for almost exactly 30 years, so ideally absolutely nothing happens in the game at all and everyone sleepwalks their way home.

Millwall Blackburn is 1-1 now (was nearly 2-0 but for the latest flag in history ruling out a Millwall second, pure guesswork I think). Good game.

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Dare to dream.

I say that and almost immediately Cov let me down by taking the lead. Never rely on your heroes

Luton, Boro, Coventry and Blackburn would be a great set of play offs to have, as a guy who hates seeing the same old teams constantly coming back up.

Pickering has just gifted Millwall a goal.

If all the results stay the same but West Brom win 2-1. How is it decided who goes up? Yellow cards?

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Goals scored.

Won't be needed now though as Millwall are storming ahead.

That's Millwall into the playoffs then.

I take full responsibility for cursing Blackburn there.

Millwall in the Prem would be outstanding. They'd get about 2 points away from home and about 35 at the Den.

Blackburn should have had a playoff spot wrapped up a long time ago, what a horrible run of form they've had.

To be fair my Dad has spent the last 3 weeks saying how he didn't want to be in the playoffs anyway because 'We're so shit, I'd just watch us get battered for 7 months'

I've got that one ready in the holster in case the next hour or so goes downhill.

I play football with a Huddersfield Town fan and he gets gloomy whenever they hit a run of form that might see them actually get promoted again.

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How did they hire Ten Hag?

Finding out Blackburn are managed by Jon Dahl Tomasson just now was a real nostalgia hit.

Leicester have been banter here. In possession they can look quality but out of possession, it's comical. I wondered what was going on and then I saw Gammon King John Terry on their bench.

It'd be a nice problem to have, but from this game alone I don't think I'd have the nerves to handle a playoff final.

This Millwall v Blackburn game has been incredible.

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Or 'John Dale Tomasson' as everyone seems to have convinced themselves he is called.

No idea how Millwall are still level here, Blackburn's second half xG must be nearing Elon Musk's dollar net worth.

Fuck me, Blackburn taking the lead could be the goal that saves our skin here

Holy shit, we're in the playoffs in a season where I wanted us to not be evicted and have to play at Burton Albion and just wanted to not be 24th going into the World cup.

You need to do an ms Paint for the moment.

Brighton are also capable of a bottle in this top 4 race then.

Come on for fuck sake.

Leeds are fucked :drool:

That's it. The strategy of hoping nobody else gets any points has failed. We're down.

Brighton out of the top four race :drool:

Hard to see how this isn't a conspiracy.

This malnourished Argie lad isn't making it in Europe. But the Big Mac looks like prime Thiago :drool:

Get Ferguson and March/Enciso on and this is gonna be a tasty 2nd half.

FFS Brighton. :face:

Game too early Everton.

Could be my imagination but haven't there been far more total capitulations in the PL this season than you would expect?

Maybe teams are all being coached just to play one way now and have no adaptability/answer when the tide turns against them.

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We can just call off the last three games for me. I can't be arsed living with the incredibly slim chance that we could (we won't) get out of it. I just want putting out of my fucking misery.

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Probably more to do with the manager turnover.

That's a lovely hit by McNeil.

Dwight McNeil has been eating his carrots.

That's one of the most outrageous ganes of football I've ever seen. This greasy Italian midget really came to brexitball and thought he could change the order of things.

Sean Dyche. What a man.

The win was obviously good for Everton but they've done wonders by winning by 4.

Forest can't really match their goal difference now and Leeds would do well to, especially with Newcastle coming ready to hump them.

I suppose the only thing we can hope for now if Everton do stay up is that by the New Year the fans will have had enough of the shit on a stick football and hound him out to be replaced by Roberto Martinez’s regen or something.

Still think they are in the old Sunderland death spiral someone just really needs to get them flushed away properly.

Everton are still fucked if they stay up, just not as immediately. They'd have to invest well in the squad or hope Dyche can get some bargain buys in like he did at Burnley. They're also still under FFP investigation which could dock them points too.

Forest saving themselves now too.

Two cracking goals by forest.

I think you're all underestimating Leeds. If there's a more powerful force in the universe than Sam Allardyce's desire to earn a £2.5 million bonus then it sure isn't to be found in the Premier League relegation battle.

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Proper tickled me that, probably partly because it's so very true.

Just clocked that Brighton had the higher xG yesterday, not sure if I'm surprised or not.

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It's the only thing we have to nail any hope to. Unfortunately I think you could extend that offer to each individual player and it wouldn't help, we just don't have the quality.

Magic has nailed it, we're the worst team in the league. It boggles the mind that Southampton exist below us. Granted, I don't watch a lot of non-Leeds football so my exposure to them is limited but I'm certain they can't be as bad as us at our worst. And we exist almost exclusively at our worst at the moment.

If by some miracle we escaped the scale of the rebuild required to make us competitive in the league next season would be staggering. I'm not sure it would be doable and I kind of don't have any interest in staying up to go through another season of this. It's just shit. At least going down would be a strong catalyst for moving a lot of them on.

I mean I say all that but then obviously I'll be going into the weekend hoping against hope we turn Newcastle over and stay in contention. Fucking football. :D

Talksport were talking about the exodus of all the decent footballers from the relegated teams and there wasn't one Leeds player mentioned lol. Sums it up.

I (as a lower to middle Prem club) would have a punt on Aaronson or Harrison, but in general you've just been living off Bielsa elevating a bunch of schmos about 1000% beyond their natural ceiling.

Wasn't everyone losing their mind over that Gnocchi [I know this isn't his name but I can't think of it] guy a while back?

Willy Gnonto.

He'd make for a good double swoop with Kevin Lasagna.

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Nail on the head.

Bamford is the perfect example of this. Patrick Bamford is not a good striker. He never has been a good striker. There was just a two year period of smoke and mirrors (the promotion season and the first season up) where Marcelo worked his magic and set us up to play in such a way that he couldn't help but to bag a certain numbers of goals.

The promotion season in particular I remember still spending the majority of the season very frustrated with him and aware we needed better. An actual clinical finisher would have netted 30+ times in the league that season.

You wouldn't want anything to do with Aaronson, trust me. His first order of business this summer needs to be a job lot of protein shakes and a three month gym membership. He's made of paper. Harrison will land somewhere in the Premier League I imagine. He blows hot and cold but when he turns up he's a great contributor. Plus he's English, which tends to add a certain allure to some prospective buyers I suppose.

Luke Ayling is the one that always comes to mind. Absolutely no way he ever plays Premier League football, let alone looks quite decent for a time, in any other set of circumstances.

Aaronson is absolutely useless but Harrison is probably worth a punt. Adams is a good player and so is Sinisterra but injuries...

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Add Wober and Gnonto (and probably Rodrigo too to be fair to him this season) to the ones you have already mentioned and the rest of them, genuinely, can all get out of my fucking sight.

Meslier is the weird one. Up until a couple of months ago I would have genuinely talked myself blue in the face about how he's one of the better young keepers around with an excellent future and on paper our most valuable asset. As it stands at the minute I wouldn't really want him in the net for us next season in the Championship.

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Meslier is the weird one. Up until a couple of months ago I would have genuinely talked myself blue in the face about how he's one of the better young keepers around with an excellent future and on paper our most valuable asset. As it stands at the minute I wouldn't really want him in the net for us next season in the Championship.

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But what about the chant?

I've assumed Gnonto has a pre-agreement with Juve FYI.

Dias just saved a certain goal there.

What a block.

City look so slow at times. They are playing right into Real's plan it feels like.

Vini :cool:

What a hit that was.

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Vini Jnr in the CL is different gravy

The noise that made.

Grealish is such a little cunt.

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He’s probably one of the sounder players. No idea how you’ve come to this conclusion after the Carvajal incident. Though on the topic of Grealish, I don’t think he’s v good or cut out for this level. Looks shit scared to do anything

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He's a prick who I've always hated.

The socks alone fuel a lot of said hatred.

Real’s gameplay in the big games is amazing. Zidane and now Ancelotti, at times getting absolutely fisted, weather the storm then put away their only half chance. Outstanding.

They've made that competition their own.

That would have been an all-time great goal.

35 year old striker and an almost 38 year old midfielder up against City.

Regardless of age or fitness, Real Madrid's elite mentality is winning out so far. Ancelotti's tactics also help, of course.

Two quality outside the box hits.

The ball looked miles out of play before that goal but what a hit son

Real’s ability to have almost everything go their way and still feel wronged is absolutely unrivalled.

This has been incredibly dull.

I was watching it with a Proper Footballer (who got sent off in his team's playoff final at the weekend, the div) and he spent the whole thing commenting on how slack the City press was. What a joyless sport it is becoming at that level.

He also claimed that Rodri was the best player in history in the deep-lying midfield role, with only Busquets a worthy challenger. I first suggested Matthaus, then Beckenbauer, and he looked at me as if I'd said Dom Joly.

He's no Gilberto Silva.

With away goals now a distant memory a good result for both teams that and sets up the prospect of a cracking second leg.

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He'd have heard of Dom due to his existence falling on the right side of history.

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We need to invent a new sport for these bores to piss off and watch. Synchronised cardio. Dressage for football.

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Southend Season Tickets have been released for next season Jim.

Listen, dude, I don't have time for parochial long ball knockings. If you're not elite it's about making yourself elite. Decades ago a penniless man in a dish-dash walked across the hot sand, found this unusual black goo oozing from the desert floor, and had a dream: of regenerating east Manchester, of bald men in pullovers, of a four-man press. Jack Grealish. Stonesy. Riyad Mahrez, cutting inside. Goals. Sheets as clean as his nation's conscience. European Cup football used to be reserved for the aristocracy: now it's open to the dreamers and the upstarts. Real Madrid. Champions League, Liverpool, Arsenal, I thought that one of them we would draw, and it is Arsenal. We're lucky to be living through this era. Analytics has democratised the game. Ivy League maths prodigies used to be on the streets, locked out of this sport. Vinicius Junior, man: amazing talent allied to hard work. What could sum up the twenty-first century better than that? Chelsea, the ultimate romance. One year you win the UEFA Champions League, the next year it's all 0-1, 1-3, scores like that. Magical. The characters of the game. Martinez, using the Cup as a penis: funniest moment in soccer history. Ronaldo, Messi, growing the game in the Kingdom. You just wish there was more. You wish it was every week. Fuck the FA Cup. Small sample size. International break? Yawn, mate. Sweden, Poland? These are the tired entities of the past. crypto.com. Google. Pele and Maradona, in the multiverse, big man little man. Flick-ons. Skills. Aramco 4, Everton 1. Booooo. Elite, dude. This is elite.

Good game last night yeah.

Rudiger properly donned Haaland last night

Sounds like his dad donned the Madrid fans though.

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We all know it's Makelele

No Leao for Milan tonight is a massive shame. Hopefully they win anyway and he’s back to don Carvajal in the final

Dani Carvajal doesn't play for Man City, silly. :brighton:

That volley :drool:

City will put 4 past either of these, but this is great for now.

Inter have started really well.

Lol at Tottenham Milan.

This must be the weakest semi-final since that United/Schalke one in 2011.

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BBC tells me that's also the only time a semi-finalist has had an older goalscorer than Dzeko (Giggs) so quite fitting really.

They want this over tonight.

McManaman is talking shit again. That was never a pen.

Why the acting like that was a stonewall penalty. Fair enough if he grabbed the shirt but his hand barely touches him

Martinez should be booked for diving if anything.

Rio Ferdinand on co-commentary. :sick:

That two referees think it's not a penalty, yet the casters are insisting it was a stonewall penalty is quite some effort.

I don’t think he is, I’ve only heard him once. Must be on the usual referee role of popping in every now and then

Rio only popping in for EXPERT ANALYSIS.

It's still better than Michael Owen.

I guess it's a case of keeping him on for that one moment of brilliance but I feel like Barella has been completely anonymous in this game.

How on earth has Krunic got away with throwing a hook to the body? Mental.

Blatant little dig in the ribs in the box there and nothing doing.

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I thought Barella was more about the work rate than the moment of brilliance [not that I watch much of him].

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He is, but I reckon, looking at their bench, you might be able to get adequate work rate from a substitution but nowhere near the same attacking threat. It just feels like he's barely been involved in Inter's attacks in this particular game.

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BBC tells me that's also the only time a semi-finalist has had an older goalscorer than Dzeko (Giggs) so quite fitting really.

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That Schalke were terrible. The first leg would have been 6-0 without Manuel Neuer, and the second leg was 4-1 with Anderson and Darron Gibson scoring. Ferguson mugged himself right off thinking that beating them meant they could try to play in the final.

Looking at the quality of that game, I'm still frustrated about my Benfica bet.

It was by far and away the best chance for Benfica to make the final since 1990.

Benfica hit a terrible bit of form over those 3/4 games. Plus while they're winning a lot this year, they aren't blowing teams away.

Next season @wullie

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There's always been something a bit unsettlingly gammony about Tindall but this account has now caught my eye a couple of times recently

https://twitter.com/jasontindall_

And I've just seen this:

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I've largely stopped watching the pre/post-match coverage so incredible scenes I was completely unaware of.

Tindall is Robbie Williams. Howe is Gary Barlow.

Juve with a seriously late equaliser.

Do the Conference Winners Cup Winners get a Europa League spot next season?

Yes.

@John Arne, what channel will be showing the Man City-Real game and will I manage to find a bar in Hanoi showing it at that time?

I really hope Mourinho doesn't go to PSG. Reckon he could scam a title with this Roma side if Napoli get dismantled.

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Former Hull City manager Phil Brown offered to join Sam Allardyce’s coaching staff at Leeds, but was turned down.

Brown, who has also managed at Preston, Swindon, Southend and most recently Barrow, worked alongside Allardyce at Blackpool and Bolton as his assistant.

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How desperate does that sound?

Yeah don't admit to that, Phil.

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Him breaking their Champions' League duck feels like fate. I think they are due a period of cost-cutting as well, so he could even spin it into an underdog story and retire as the smuggest man alive.

It would be very football for them to finally win it in two low blocks with Vitinha slinging set piece deliveries to a 38 year old Olivier Giroud.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/j...over-f8sx6h73g

Looks like Ratcliffe is moving ahead in this race.

Of all the people who could possibly own United, he seems about one of the least worst.

From a purely 'United winning at football' point he seems no better than the Glazers.

The whole sport needs pared back. Nobody has the will to change things so it's going to have to be a massive crash that does it.

He'll be similar to the Glazers (maybe with more palatable mood music) but you won't be owned by some thinly veiled arm of the Qatari state so there is that.

Debt moves to Ineos, club can actually invest with the money they generate. If the intention is to actually invest in the club and provide a vision then ratcliffe is the best bid in the ring.

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I'm not sure this is true. He made mistakes at Nice when he first took over there but apparently he's been doing a good job of rectifying them in recent times.

At the end of the day we don't need backing with the wealth of a nation state like City. We just need an owner who allows the club to spends what it earns and leaves football matters to football people.

Although the neglect of the Glazer era does mean some serious investment is needed in the stadium etc which I guess Ineos will be less able to just fund from their pocket money than Qatar.

Why are all the twitter replies so desperate for Qatar?

Probably a mix of Twitter bought Qatar handles and football being more interested in transfers than morality.

:lol:

I was under the impression that he was buying it separate from Ineos with a load of borrowed money. If not then it might not be bad.

Sheffield Wednesday have properly bottled this.

They done alright, definitely ended the season well after a little blip. Unfortunately for them Plymouth and Ipswich both won about 8 in a row to end the season

Play offs are a funny thing. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility Wednesday win the second leg 5-0.

Big Sam with a bit of magic.

2.5m can motivate a man quite well.

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Fireman Sam. :moop:

Bamford :lol:

Bamford on pens never inspires any confidence.

Leeds fans really love singing their Gnonto song.

What in god's name is the Leeds defender up to there?

Firpo has had a mental second half.

Firpo with money on Leeds to go down.

Pitch invader just wanted a photo with Tindall.

Baz, source out the reaction to your shouts of third, I need a quick pre-match wank.

I see Tindall didn’t shake Big Sam’s hand first this time. That Twitter account must have humbled him

Back to back Spurs and Chelsea losing updates on my notifications less than 15 minutes in was very funny.

You want funny, Antony has clocked another 30 mins of EPL action.

Top work as per

This Noni lad for Chelsea looks very Championship level.

Chesterfield keeper has just gifted Notts County an equaliser.

Yeah that was shockingly bad. They've been nowhere near scoring a goal as well.

Amad's properly mugged off the Luton 'keeper there.

Notts County reserve keeper is having a stormer.

Bostock :lol:

Cracking final that. Full of the drama.

You're 22, you've only played a handful of games this season and you come on just for penalties in the playoff final and save two of them. What a boss.

4 points from 3 games to secure the CL. Should be in our grasp.

You need 6 IIRC because of the goal difference.

Chelsea agree to hire Small Pockets in the summer. I'm sure Jim is thrilled.

Sounds like they’re going down the Argie route or at least spine of the team. Lautaro Martinez, Declan Rice, Emiliano Martinez and Alexis Mac Allister are his targets if you believe the rumour mills.

Is Frank Lampard at the combover point?

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Should have gone for John Terry, just to see if it's possible to get relegated with our resources.

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Ahhh, she must have deleted her Twitter. She basically put out a tweet saying her husband hadn’t come back to Newcastle after the Leeds game and she last tracked his phone down to a Leeds gay bar. Then an hour later she tweeted out he’s safe and was too drunk to come home so stayed over at a Leeds’ fans house.

Everton have been good, but that's ridiculous from gundogan

That is some goal from Gundogan.

hahah how has Pickford gotten away with that

That is a mental decision.

Strongest Brighton XI, shoild be a tasty game guaranteed.

Ref really not keen on the yellows here.

Is it just me or was Martinelli lucky to not get a red... he didn't even get a yellow.

Feels like there’s been about 3 minutes of actual football played.

I'm not sure who this commentator is (alongside Lee Dixon) but fuck me he is annoying, every attack he does the voice change as if a goal is immediately imminent... "Saka, into Odegaaaaaaarrrdd.... wide". Every fucking shot.

Lee Dixon makes me think you have the US feed. So it’s probably Peter Drury

Yeah, that rings a bell. Drury and Dixon has to be the worst commentary duo going.

Peter Drury might be the most loved commentator going about.

Can’t believe it’s taken 35 mins to switch Mitoma to the left

Keane loving the Caicedo revenge foul on Martinelli :D

Linesman tried to give an offside from a throw-in. All these people who cry about referee's being abused seem to ignore that half of them don't even know the rules.

lol just stamps on the guys achilles. Awesome.

Martin Tyler must have assumed that was offside because he couldn’t have given a fuck that went in.

Colwill’s range of passing is utterly sexual. What a player he is. Fofana, Badiashile and him fighting for centre half the next few years for Chelsea is v v decent if nothing else

They're going to makeweight him to Brighton for whichever of the midfielders they want to pay a fortune for. :yn:

Billy Gilmour with his 4th tactical foul of the game. No booking.

Not watching but I really hope Brighton did one of those shitty little huddles after the goal and now spend the rest of the half wasting time at every opportunity.

Can’t believe he’s just taken Billy Gilmour off. What a gimp. For Danny Welbeck of all folk too.

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They’re really not lol. They dropped him for Webster out of pettiness knowing he wasn’t staying.

Maybe he fancies himself a bit of European football next season though.

Probably prefers that new £100k+ contract over £30k tho

This ref is allergic to cards.

That Brighton physio would make Taz shoot his bolt 5 times over. His arms are bigger than my legs

Every time I watch Brighton I'm very impressed.

They've just got to avoid the inevitable fire sale when the top teams want their players.

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He'd split taz up the middle. Be only a nose left.

:drool:

The seethe.

Congrats to Man City.

Yeah, the Brighton physio is an absolute unit.

Trossard helping his friends :cool:

Signing players like Trossard and Jorginho was only ever gonna end one way after skimping out on signing better players

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Every time I watch Brighton I'm very impressed.

They've just got to avoid the inevitable fire sale when the top teams want their players.

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Will they lose that many players? The very biggest teams might take two or three, but nobody liable to be interested will be able to wrestle most of their squad from them, and nobody is going to want to leave unless it's to somebody miles bigger.

Brighton would have had CL football in their hands if they didn’t bottle it against Nottingham Forest and Everton

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Signing players like Trossard and Jorginho was only ever gonna end one way after skimping out on signing better players

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The reason we're in this poisition was sticking with Partey and Jesus when they've been poor over those two.

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Yeah should have broke the bank for Mudryk :D

Stadium has emptied out quick :eyemouth:

De Zerbi might be that guy. Has made Potter’s work look fairly average since taking over.

Thumped Arsenal twice at the Emirates this season. Speaking of thumping, Man City might score 8 next week against Chelsea now tbey win the title

Look at the empty seats.

This is your best season for the next decade Arsenal fans, savour it.

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De Zerbi might be that guy. Has made Potter’s work look fairly average since taking over.

Thumped Arsenal twice at the Emirates this season. Speaking of thumping, Man City might score 8 next week against Chelsea now tbey win the title

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Could even be over before that match.

Arsenal play first and will need to win.

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He will be brilliant. I was meaning more so Caicedo anyway. Imagine picking Jorginho over him.

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Will they lose that many players? The very biggest teams might take two or three, but nobody liable to be interested will be able to wrestle most of their squad from them, and nobody is going to want to leave unless it's to somebody miles bigger.

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They'll probably lose MacAllister and Caicedo, which will be massive.

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He will be brilliant. I was meaning more so Caicedo anyway. Imagine picking Jorginho over him.

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We literally weren't able to pick. We bid 80 million quid for him and they said no.

Naw you didn’t

Was 70 million.

"When asked about Arsenal trying to sign Caicedo for £70m, Barber responded: “Only if they wanted half the player!"

Jorginho has literally been the better holding midfielder in the team the last month though, Arteta's insistence on playing the rapist who was lax as fuck on the ball was one of the main issues. Arsenal were never paying big money for Caicedo because that money is earmarked for Rice.

Isn’t Caicedo on about £3.50 a week? No idea how they think they’re going to keep hold of him.

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Yeah but it won't be like when a Dutch team does something and gets vultured. Besides, all we ever hear about is how Brighton have a million transfers lined up for every position, so they should be fine.

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Signed a new deal since then.

Would be more worried about Evan Ferguson. He looks like an absolute monster. Poor bastard needs to hope he has some dodgy gran so he doesn’t need to play for ireland

Yeah, they'll be fine, but they'll probably just be stuck around where they are rather than being able to have a proper run at being actually good. Until it then goes tits up in a few years.

Their system is better than their players though, so maybe they can Atalanta it up a bit.

The system seems to rely heavily on Mac Allister and Caicedo being press-resistant and capable of breaking lines with their passing. Now I'm not saying Milner and some Syrian refugee aren't going to be able to replace them but watching De Zerbi-ball next season should be very lol.

Gilmour and Moder (has he ever recovered? ) will replace them seemlessly.

Are Brighton ever liable to produce their own players? The area strikes me as a proper sporting death zone, even more so than the other South coast teams, unless they can nibble a few South London county lines types away from their pretend rivals.

March, Dunk, they've had a few others come through and do well elsewhere [Gyokeres].

I think the problem is that there isn't much football between the south coast and south London. If you look at the lower leagues, you have teams at levels 7-9 along the coast, and then you have them around the edge of south London, so the catchment isn't that big and I guess all the best players gravitate towards the London clubs. The commuter land between the two is, as you say, a bit of a death zone [other than all the Chelsea kids at Whitgift].

Of course, all of Brighton's potential midfield issues will be solved when they sign Alex Scott in the summer.

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6-0 Wolves, 1-0 v Man Utd and today with Gilmour in the line up. The prodigy is back.

Also, why do Sky - even after 9pm - get so offended by players swearing where they have to apologise? Same with when the mic picks up crowd noise and the commentators apologise for it like something terrible has happened

Because the law says they have to.

I can see Brighton giving us some bother on Thursday.

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His mother is English and he's already had his first cap. Keep up.

He looks very Irish, so when you say 'English', do you mean actually English and not just Irish but from Belfast or somewhere?

The big Irish head is passed down on the father's side.

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His mother is English and he's already had his first cap. Keep up.

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Hasn’t played a competitive game, has he?

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Leo Varadkar. It must just be something in the water.

He is class that Ferguson tbf.

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One, against France. Though one isn't enough these days under the new rules, there's no doubt about him.

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Actual 'innit blud' English.

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Barcelona won the league in local rivals Espanyols' stadium and started their celebrations. Their fans didn't like it so invaded the pitch and the Barcelona players shat themselves and ran away.

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I don't know what Barca expected to be honest.

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Souness would have planted a flag in front of them

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'Pol Ballus' bealing into his big girl's blouse.

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I thought points accrued this season being enough to win the league in previous years was a bad enough argument but bringing in points totals from leagues in other countries is a whole new level.

As for Arsenal's form, it's now so shit that one wonders how they'll do next season.

Regression to the mean is a beautiful thing. Poor Leicester.

https://understat.com/league/EPL

This one did make me lol:

https://i.ibb.co/tQrQQrt/FB-IMG-1684148180150.jpg

It's a solid top four season for the Arsenal FC. Top four footy, back in the red third of north London.

Neville’s angry because he said City would win the league by 15 points and United would finish second and got bantered for it.

Now that United are 20 points behind, he’s changed his tune but apparently it’s Arsenal fans that have moved the goalposts.

Nice bit of mental gymnastics there.

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Now that United are 20 points behind, he’s changed his tune but apparently it’s Arsenal fans that have moved the goalposts.

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Neville got lolled at for saying Arsenal might not have the bottle and he’s been proven right. Arsenal have bottled it well and truly.

Arsenal haven't really bottled it. City are just relentless and much better than every team in the league.

I don't think most fans, particularly of the big clubs, have yet processed how easily City are going to win everything for the next 5 or so years and how little relevance their clubs have except for filling out the CL semi-finals or quarter-finals.

I'd almost rather support Forest or something as at least you have progress to aim for.

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Drawing 3 games in a row (having been 2-0 up in 2 of them and 2 of the 3 games being against bottom 5 teams) followed by rolling over to City is definitely a bottle crash. And then obviously yesterday was the cream

Except if you gave us those wins and City win their game in hand we still lose despite that meaning we’d won 13 of the last 14.

It’s not a bottle job, they’re just ludicrously good and a better team.

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I don't think most fans, particularly of the big clubs, have yet processed how easily City are going to win everything for the next 5 or so years and how little relevance their clubs have except for filling out the CL semi-finals or quarter-finals.

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Not really sure this is the case. Whenever any team is particularly ascendant people can never see beyond their complete domination of everything, and that rarely turns out to be the case. Other teams will get their act together, Haaland or De Bruyne could get seriously injured etc.

Somewhat agree on point 2 though. So long as 90 points plus is the threshold to win the league it is far preferable following a mid-tier club without the weekly trauma of ABSOLUTELY HAVING TO WIN EVERY GAME lest the season be written off as a failure less than halfway through it.

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Regression to the mean is a beautiful thing. Poor Leicester.

https://understat.com/league/EPL

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Interesting looking at that table. Liverpool have been better than I've experienced it at home, whereas it suggests away from home they've suffered from both not taking chances and opponents taking more than their fair share.

As for Arsenal, unfortunately they're up against the team that has moved the goalposts on the pitch as much as they have off it. Previously a team getting to high 80's in points would be winning the league. Now you're needing to aim for 95 points or so to be in with a chance. Even then we've seen higher than that not be good enough.

To have won the league in the past 7 years instead of the winner, your points required would have been 94, 101, 99, 100, 87, 94 and looking like 95 again this year. There's no shame in losing to these as they're not human and also don't exactly play by the same rules as the rest, but unfortunately the house always wins.

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Not really sure this is the case. Whenever any team is particularly ascendant people can never see beyond their complete domination of everything, and that rarely turns out to be the case. Other teams will get their act together, Haaland or De Bruyne could get seriously injured etc.

Somewhat agree on point 2 though. So long as 90 points plus is the threshold to win the league it is far preferable following a mid-tier club without the weekly trauma of ABSOLUTELY HAVING TO WIN EVERY GAME lest the season be written off as a failure less than halfway through it.

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The last six PL seasons have comprised three easy City wins, and three seasons where they were meaningfully challenged by Liverpool (of which two were still won by City). It's gone.

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I just wish I could actually bottle it. :happycry:

City are a better team than us. Change all non City games to a win. They’re still a point behind. The youngest team in the league isn’t as good as Man City. Absolute bottle job.

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It's alright, Saudi, Qatar and Clearlake Capital will save the day.

Pep will fuck off eventually and then there will be space for everyone else.

United enjoyed similar periods of dominance, so it's not a new thing.

And, you know, it's all coming out in the FFP wash anyway.

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City are a better team than us. Change all non City games to a win. They’re still a point behind. The youngest team in the league isn’t as good as Man City. Absolute bottle job.

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I mean, you should be beating Southampton and West Ham on paper. I'm with you, though. City always had that game in hand and wins over those two (combined with a point against Brighton) would've still seen you second best.

In a perfect world yes. The fact that we were ever in the position to lose it by a point rather than 9 or so hasn’t killed me life it has some others. I factored in 2 losses and Man City dropping 1 as my positive vision board. It didn’t happen. C’est la vie.

Gonna be an absolute massacre tonight

Yep although where a wild Jonny Evans has appeared from I don't know. Newcastle and West Ham are do-able now at least.

Trent is having an identity crisis with his position here.

Ask RL about it. He'll be delighted to give you a detailed breakdown.

Champions League looks done. So let’s do the decent thing here and lose to stick Everton in the shit.

https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Arti...e-sala/1396747

Hopefully this brings some sort of curse upon the club.

Barnes gets taken out on the break and it’s not given as a yellow. Tragic.

Linking an article in french thats also behind a paywall might be the worst post that this forums ever committed.

I've gotten past the paywall (thanks bypass) but my French is shit.

I want to like Faes because of his hair but he’s a huge liability.

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Yeah, he’s properly tragic. I can’t see Leicester staying up. Their defence and keeper are just so bad

Baller :cool:

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Cardiff City réclame 110 M€ au FC Nantes dans l'affaire Sala

INFO L'ÉQUIPE. Cardiff City a saisi le Tribunal de commerce de Nantes, le 12 mai, dans l'affaire Sala. Le club gallois réclame près de 110 M€ au FCN au titre d'indemnisation des « préjudices subis » après le décès accidentel de l'attaquant argentin.

Il l'avait annoncé et il l'a fait, sans ambages. Le club de Cardiff City, en litige depuis quatre ans avec le FC Nantes au sujet du transfert et du décès accidentel d'Emiliano Sala, a entamé ses poursuites au civil en France, après avoir été débouté de tous ses recours en Suisse. Selon nos informations, le club gallois a déposé vendredi dernier (via ses avocats français, Mes Olivier Loizon et Laure-Anne Montigny, du cabinet parisien Viguié Schmidt & associés) une assignation auprès du Tribunal de commerce de Nantes, visant à condamner principalement « la société FC Nantes à verser la somme, à parfaire, de 100 millions d'euros avec intérêts au taux légal, à compter du jugement, au titre des pertes de revenus subies » par Cardiff, après la disparition prématurée de l'attaquant argentin, qui n'a jamais pu évoluer sous le maillot des Bluebirds. L'assignation à comparaître est fixée au 22 juin prochain.

My phone offered to translate the article for me. Also didn't get a paywall.

Basically Cardiff want €110m off Nantes for reasons either my French ability can’t deduce or are incredibly spurious.

That's a mental decision, even if it's 'right'.

Even without knowledge of French, that headline says it all. Cardiff reclaiming 110m Euros from the Sala purchase is incredibly cunty. He was a £15m deal.

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Yeah that's what I got.

I did hear that they wanted payment for "damages" but lol at 110m Euros being the number.

Oooh, could be a collapse on.

You’ve got to fancy Dyche to steal a result somewhere, so this Leicester team are gone I feel. Horrendous.

Fuck sake.

Letting someone like Curtis Jones score twice again you sums this Leicester defence up. Bloody hell

Where the fuck has this Curtis Jones been hiding?

Leicester heads look to have gone already.

You can why Carsley has been playing him as a nine.

Lol so reading it, Cardiff are asking for the transfer fee, every penny they would have paid for his 5 year contract AND the money they would have received for his inevitable transfer to a top 6 club when he succeeded because it's impossible to prove that he wouldn't have achieved that. Using the fact that the transfer fee and his contract had extra payment stipulations built in if he had been the second coming of Kevin Phillips 30 goal season as proof that all sides believed that these goals were certainties.

It's funny how often it happens in Football where a teams biggest strength suddenly becomes their biggest weakness. The year they won the league was powered by Kante and Mahrez and Vardy but at it's core was Morgan and Huth heading/clearing away anything that came near the box. Nowadays their set-piece defence is so poor I believe it's set league records and they can't defend crosses from wide areas.

Luis Diaz playing like the favela cunt he is. Get Jota on and let's chase down Newcastle's GD.

What a hit that was.

Can we please talk about Trent some more?

Van Dijk just fucking BONKING him on the head.

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I’m sure we will do when Wan Bissaka is in the next England squad ahead of him.

No self respecting Liverpool fan gives a fuck about England.

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I was more making the point that Sir Gareth would rather pick anyone than get him in the team.

Tried to find some old post I remember where I said Bodgers was shit and someone (turned out to be Kiko) said he wasn't but the quote didn't work right and I can't be fucked using the shitty search function again so just take this as me informing you of the :evictory:

Top four is well and truly on. I can see Fulham causing United problems, likewise Brighton at Newcastle.

Both play Chelsea though so you’re kind of fucked

Neither are dropping points in two games, but it is good to see us playing properly to end the season. At least with 5th we'd avoid some qualifying shitfest.

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Surely this is only actual Liverpudlians? Not even being from there but having a massive chip on your shoulder purely through the football team would be proper nonce behaviour.

Ironically the actual Liverpudlians I know think the city is a shithole and moved away as soon as they could, it's the adoptive ones who give it 'the best place in the world!' Schtick.

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Lol so reading it, Cardiff are asking for the transfer fee, every penny they would have paid for his 5 year contract AND the money they would have received for his inevitable transfer to a top 6 club when he succeeded because it's impossible to prove that he wouldn't have achieved that. Using the fact that the transfer fee and his contract had extra payment stipulations built in if he had been the second coming of Kevin Phillips 30 goal season as proof that all sides believed that these goals were certainties.

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I don't get how it's Nantes's fault that he got on a dodgy plane. Either way, it must be one of the most undignified sagas in a very undignified sport.

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He's not shit though is he*? He definitely has a shelf life and limitations (like transfers) but he can do a decent job for a period.


*From fans of Steve Bruce: 1000 game manager

He came 2nd in the FA Carling Premiership and won the Scottish League, I reckon he's good at football managing.

Not sure how Dean Smith continuing to take Leicester down and making them look even worse in the process is necessarily a poor reflection on Bodgers.

They've just underinvested in the playing squad/been unlucky that some of their transfers have been whack, loads of their players have got injured, some star performers have seemingly gone to shit [what has happened to Ndidi?]. Strikes me that the new owners aren't really committed to it like the old man was.

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He's ok. He came second in the league but he also had the best player I have ever seen play for the club in his team. He then got a bit big for his own boots and went to shit, Celtic you can't argue with what he did and if he had taken the hit in the pocket last year and walked away from Leicester you would have said he had done an excellent job.

But, I would say that this season there were a lot of the excuses from his last 12 months at Liverpool it was always someone else's fault other than his own. Completely forgetting that a lot of the signings have been his own even if they haven't spent as much money as they had done in the past.

I mean the man deserves a knighthood, but preferring Benteke over Firmino is close to unforgiveable.

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He's ok. He came second in the league but he also had the best player I have ever seen play for the club in his team. He then got a bit big for his own boots and went to shit, Celtic you can't argue with what he did and if he had taken the hit in the pocket last year and walked away from Leicester you would have said he had done an excellent job.

But, I would say that this season there were a lot of the excuses from his last 12 months at Liverpool it was always someone else's fault other than his own. Completely forgetting that a lot of the signings have been his own even if they haven't spent as much money as they had done in the past.

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I know but on this basis the only good football managers are Pep and Klopp. In fact hundreds can do the job well, many very well.

If I took charge of Celtic I reckon they'd get relegated.

Suarez took Liverpool to second and I could win the Scottish league with Celtic. Or at least the years he was there and won it - Rangers weren't even second those years.

I think most level headed Celtic fans will tell you that Rodgers was the best coach in recent years (until Ange) - though that says more about the quality of the managers before him than anything - and an absolute whopper of a bloke.

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I know but on this basis the only good football managers are Pep and Klopp. In fact hundreds can do the job well, many very well.

If I took charge of Celtic I reckon they'd get relegated.

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Welcome to the Steve Bruce Managerial Defence Brigade.

Rodgers is good for the first 18-24 months when most players seem to buy his bullshit but it wears off quicker than most.

Worse is when the board buy the bullshit and allow him to back the back room and recruitment team with his own useless mates and also give him a massive new contract on top.

Worse still is when you don’t recognise that he’s alienated half the squad, any existing staff members, fans and keep him in position whilst performances and results nosedive and his answer is to take no personal responsibility whatsoever and simply say that the squad is rubbish or it’s too hot.

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I know but on this basis the only good football managers are Pep and Klopp. In fact hundreds can do the job well, many very well.

If I took charge of Celtic I reckon they'd get relegated.

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I think he is a good manager. But, he does have some fairly obvious flaws. Set pieces is a recurring one as well. We had problems with them and so did Leicester. I think he very much has a shelf-life he will give you a good 2-2.5 years but then it does seem to start going backwards and he can't seem to reverse it. But, your team will play good football during that period and there will be improvement he's nothing like Steve Bruce.

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I miss Steve Bruce. Nowadays all the managers in the Championship are identikit slim cokeheads with crew cuts, beards and quarterzips, getting sacked, going on 10 game winning runs and getting linked with Rangers, it's all too highly charged. In Bruce's heyday you knew where you were. Two similar sides would play adequate football. The game would finish 1-1, or sometimes 2-1 or 0-3. You'd get a pint on the way home. Great days.

Holy shit. SEA Games final... Looks like the ref blows the full time whistle, Indonesia staff run into the pitch to celebrate, ref says get off, a few seconds left.

Thailand immediately score in the 98th minute to equalise.

Mental.

Could kick off big time.

https://www.youtube.com/live/txHRss3vfp

Edit: how do you embed the video?

Indonesia score in the first minute of extra time and both benches go at it.

Proper fighting :drool:

Three red cards, and we still have 20 minutes left.

https://gyazo.com/d21836f7313b97e2bb18af5c7bfd5a35.gif

A 4th goal for Indonesia and a 3rd red card for Thailand :drool:

Edit: A 5th for Indonesia, and the ref blows up. FT 5-2, and 4 or 5 red cards in the end.

Not the best hit, but big save from Onana nevertheless.

The atmosphere is amazing but the standard is so poor.

Whichever one of these makes it is getting humped by 4 or 5, by City.

As if Pep isn’t bottling another CL.

Those last 3 minutes of the half perfectly sum Milan up. They are two goals down in the tie and they are passing it between the defenders with no idea how to get the ball forward.

Luton :cool:

Proper shite this.

I've switched over to Luton/Sunderland.

Milan derby is wank.

Inter at least have the squad to make something of the final. A goalscorer, a towering striker, industrious midfield, dangerous attacking wing backs. Milan are just hopeless.

Kenilworth Road world tour.

Those Indonesia scenes :D

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Looks like Ratcliffe is moving ahead in this race.

Of all the people who could possibly own United, he seems about one of the least worst.

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The Sheikh's back with a BLOCKBUSTER offer apparently, so don't go counting those chickens.

Very shrewd businessman, the Sheikh. Knows a good deal when he sees one.

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Still values the shares lower than Sir Jim lad's bid so can't see it being accepted, especially since Ratcliffe is allowing Joel and Avram to remain symbolically involved for the next few years.

If the Glazers think there is value to be had in holding on, why don't they just raise the funding themselves?

I can't pretend I understand all the in-and-outs, but most of them want to sell up and only a couple want to stay on. I guess they can't afford to buy out the others? There has been talk they might want to just raise investment but it's never seemed like it's truly likely to happen.

Also presumably this way they'd just keep getting Some Money for their involvement in the club without having to actually do any work?

Sounds like Bob Sanchez has been Trossarded.

Toney banned for 8 months.

Ivan Toney suspended for 8 months. Book thrown.

It better be some proper bets and not him backing Haaland or himself for the golden boot.

I’d be buying him for a reduced fee if I was in charge of a club. Proper player and improves most teams.

Wouldn't be the first striker transferred whilst serving a length ban.

Money on Brentford to go down next season.

Ironic really.

My Brentford ITK told me at the weekend they'd get good money for him this summer regardless of ban.

At least he'll be free to make lots of bets for 8 months.

Serves him right, the clown.

If you’re going to play deep and with little ball playing Kroos is utterly pointless. Just play Tchouameni over him.

Kross still wearing those boots from the '98 world cup

Courtois in CL final mode again.

That was David Seaman-like.

Chelsea going from Cech and Courtois fighting for a place in the last 10 years to Mendy and Kepa out shitting each other will never not be funny.

Courtois in the CL is just ridiculous

This is their year isn't it? :(

Great goal that.

Hopefully turkey have another earthquake when they're out there or something.

Get Rudiger on for Kroos and move Camavinga into midfield and Alaba left back or just take Kroos off. He’s absolutely pointless

Verstappen to score the second.

Ugh.

There's no chance they bottle the final to Inter.

Both those goals seemed to come as a result of Camavinga's ill discipline, get your best midfielder into midfield and and bring the other African lad on, this white privelege midfield of OAPs is not on it today. The comeback would be peak lol here.

I’m with Taz. Not playing Camavinga and Tchouameni in midfield is pretty criminal. Valverde isn’t as good as either of them and Kroos and Modric are completely nullified in this tactic. Maybe they’ll open up second half.

Not watching as I just got in but I saw this on the Beeb.

https://i.imgur.com/lE4l6m5.png

This is who Arsenal are being accused of BOTTLING the league to?

It's fine, we put up 97 points and still lost out and we were BOTTLERS too.

Probably didn’t blow a 2-0 lead in two games running or drop points to the worst team in about 10 years to play in the league. OR get battered 0-3 at home by a team Everton stuck 5 past the week prior.

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If 3 of those things don't happen and one does we'd still be a point behind them lol.

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If 3 of those things don't happen and one does we'd still be a point behind them lol. Or if 2 of those draws are wins and the Brighton loss is a win we're equal on points and still 20 goals behind on goal difference. It's almost like this team are really, really good. I said it after 4-5 minutes in the City game, they're a visible level above even good teams.

Hope Inter can manage to suffocate them in the final.

Somehow about Arsenal.

City bumming Real 4-0 in the semis is game over. Inter will get pulverised in the final

Luton or Coventry in the Premiership next season is class.

Would love to see Coventry up. They've had some shit years recently so they could really use the prem money. Might even be able to buy/build a new stadium.

I'd love to see Luton do it, just to see what luminaries they can somehow convince to play for them with all that dough. The Coventry thing I've seen Wullie do on FM.

I think it's clear to everyone which was the better semi-final performance by a team in sky blue tonight.

Which is the bigger shithole? It's some contest.

It's been a good set of play-off qualifiers, to be honest. Sunderland making it on their first season back, Boro looking relatively handy and then you've got Luton and Coventry in. A real batch of feel good stories.

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Always Luton.

Imagine the money the inevitable gear seller who lives in one of those Luton stadium flats will make from away days in the PL. I always thought the rough reputation of London was a bit overplayed compared to the stereotype but even the 'normal' people I've met from Luton had a vibe of 'say one wrong word and I'll get someone called Spikey Tone to stand outside your window as the nearby lampost light reflects off the meat cleaver he's holding' to them.

Meanwhile the Richard Keys based Coventry content we'd get is hard to root against. Probably an overplayed joke but can we get Darren Huckerby involved somehow so I can feel young again?

https://i.imgur.com/gjizJ7g.png

Accrington Stanley, it could have been you

Who are they?

Exactly.

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Luton by miles.

How is Luton meant to sustain a Premiership football team?

It isn't. But that's the beauty of sport.

Ah yes, spending about ten quid on transfers just to pocket the TV money so you have a half decent shot at popping back up again in a year or two. The beautiful game.

Isn't that every team outside of the 'top whatever' [7]?

If it's beauty or purity that you want then there can't be many top level sports still going that are amenable.

The beauty of sport is that things that shouldn't happen do happen. Anything that wouldn't be approved by management accountants - like an organisation as lean and unfashionable as Luton Town getting to occupy one of the 20 coveted spots at the top table for at least a season - is beautiful.

Just watched the highlights. 4-0 and Haaland missed three sitters. Fuck me.

If Pep can be arsed to hang around there's a serious chance this side could eclipse his Barca team for the best side in my football watching lifetime.

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The beauty of sport is that things that shouldn't happen do happen. Anything that wouldn't be approved by management accountants - like an organisation as lean and unfashionable as Luton Town getting to occupy one of the 20 coveted spots at the top table for at least a season - is beautiful.

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Why is your business letting Management Accountants be gate keepers of their activities?

https://youtu.be/bzaXXr13hMI

Fuck city, the dirty cheating cunts.

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Just watched the highlights. 4-0 and Haaland missed three sitters. Fuck me.

If Pep can be arsed to hang around there's a serious chance this side could eclipse his Barca team for the best side in my football watching lifetime.

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The way they pressed Real and defended with speed and courage last night was very reminiscent of some of that Barca’s team’s best performances. City don’t have the same artistry going forward, but as a unit I think they’re on par now.

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Also this, however. Everything they achieve should come with an asterisk. When is this investigation going to be complete? It’s basically gone unmentioned since news first broke.

It will take years.

I'm no fan of City but it was good to see Real's shit on a stick football get the comeuppance it has been due for about 5 years. Zero attacking intent. Only sad thing was that they didn't have enough hotheads to lose the plot when it was clear the jig was up. Thought Carvajal might have had some potential, but sadly not. Went with a whimper.

This is all definitely making City more appealing :drool:

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Nothing will come of it - It'll get buried in legal challenge until the end of time.

Speak of the devil.

https://twitter.com/TimesSport/statu...89927915974656

What a bunch of pussies.

Rashford and Trippier being among the player of the year nominations is a bit :cab:.

Does every team that is considered to have done alright need representation?

Yes, or else their twitter army will cause reputational damage.

Trippier is pretty average on the pitch imo.

Rashford has had a very good season, what are you on about?

Man City fans who see themselves as some kinda renegade anti-establishment club are fucking losers.

Callum Wilson has more league goals than him [wtf?].

Just seems he was shit hot for about 2 months after the World Cup, but pretty average for the rest of it.

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I think literally every fanbase now sees themselves as this.

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Callum Wilson has more league goals than him [wtf?].

Just seems he was shit hot for about 2 months after the World Cup, but pretty average for the rest of it.

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Well you generally expect centre forwards to outscore wingers, defensive false nines aside.

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Well, ok, Salah has more goals and assists despite being wank for most of the year in a fairly dreadful side.

yeah that's pretty good tbf

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That Photo I got my Dad arrived today btw. He loved it. Cheers.

Brighton really struggling in the middle without Mac Allister. They also look like a team that's had to play many games in a short space of time.

That Newcastle teams just towers over them which doesn’t help. They must have the tallest team with absolute ease. They’ve got 3 blokes at 6ft4 or taller and Joelinton/Schar can’t be far off 6ft2/3 either. Then you’ve got Pope in goal who is also a fkn giant.

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They've started well...

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Callum Wilson has more league goals than him [wtf?].

Just seems he was shit hot for about 2 months after the World Cup, but pretty average for the rest of it.

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He's quietly gone about that- I'm surprised by how good Wilson's goal scoring record has been.

Yeah, I was shocked, having not really been paying much attention to the scorer charts really. Kane very low key to 27 as well, although he does seem to score 1 every week regardless of how shit Spurs are.

Great from Gilmour for the goal.

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He really is back. :drool:

Keeps getting subbed off though for some stupid reason.

This commitment to playing out the back like this at all costs is admirable.

A shame to see the Newcastle time wasting has already begun.

Brighton without Colwill carrying the defence :sick:

Fucking lol.

Well, this was surprisingly comfortable. :D

Has it been picked up on yet that De Zerbi looks like Gnasher from Dennis the Menace?

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3-0 now. It's set up well for maximum drama.

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He looks like he was a massive dance act for six months in 2002.

He has big Chico Time backup dancer energy.

Robert Jr. Downy.

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4-0 at the death.

Playoffs :cool:

Peak Mourinho :drool:

I re-watched the Swindon v Sheff Utd 5-5 last night as there was a clip on Sky. This is up there with that in terms of drama.

Play-offs are unrivalled entertainment

Scenes when Peterborough win on penalties

10 years since that Watford/Leicester game too, saw that clip doing the rounds recently. Great when it goes in your favour.

Great header from Lamela in the Sevilla-Juventus game.

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Football 'eritage. He is not one of the bottle.

Are Peterborough still run by Barry Fry? Going back to Darren Ferguson for a 5th spell in charge hints that they are.

Still a director.

Is Ron Atkinson still there undermining Steve Bleasdale?

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Scenes when Peterborough win on penalties

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Loving the wanker chants right into the microphone.

What a penalty to end it.

That was a bit anti climatic. Serves them right for letting two lefties step up and take your first two penalties.

'Hillsborough holds its breath'. :o

Not seen a collapse like that since…never mind.

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Some of them West Ham players looked right up for a scrap there. Honestly thought Jarrod Bowen took a swing at Antonio at first but then realised he was throwing something at the fans

I enjoyed that Barry Bannan interview. Sticking it not only to 'the doubters' but also directly to his own club's fans (who all sound like utter morons) and seemingly his own mates as well for sending him 'negative texts'. Loved it.

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sound, you owe me a fiver, tell him that's the standard rate, weird stuff he can negotiate with me

lol at the AZ 'ultras' piling into the West Ham family section. Proper hard man stuff. Not that they traveled much but I assume the 1980s reaction to that would have had the town of Alkmaar razed to the ground by the ICF.

Good luck policing the final. Tiny stadium, stag do capital of Europe, 2 teams that haven't seen European success in most of the fanbases' lifetimes, what could possibly go wrong?

#todayIfeelstabbedintheass [or is that just a Roma thing?]

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lol at the AZ 'ultras' piling into the West Ham family section. Proper hard man stuff. Not that they traveled much but I assume the 1980s reaction to that would have had the town of Alkmaar razed to the ground by the ICF.

Good luck policing the final. Tiny stadium, stag do capital of Europe, 2 teams that haven't seen European success in most of the fanbases' lifetimes, what could possibly go wrong?

#todayIfeelstabbedintheass [or is that just a Roma thing?]

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They’re still seething after being embarrassed by middle aged fat Dundonians last August. Last night looked more embarrassing though, the stupid cunts were getting sorted by one bloke at the top of the stairs

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Big Sam tackles the issues. Here not just to save Leeds, but to save us all.

To fair, and I do appreciate Sam's concerns, but if we could give an AI some sort of very rudimentary robotic body I would take it up front over Patrick Bamford.

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Excellent.

Devestating news that Jake Humphrey’s has performed his last BT Show. Devestating.

That is excellent news.

They should sit Michael Owen off screen typing everything that happens into Chat GPT and let Alexa present it.

Is he now focusing his entire working life on High Performance?

Now all BT need to do is change every single other thing about their Premier League and Champions League coverage and it might be tolerable.

If we're not going to allow the poetic commentators of old, who shut up occasionally and had a sense of timing (Martin Tyler the last of these but definitely past his best), I'd rather just have silence. 'Fletch' is absolutely intolerable and I watch all their stuff on mute.

The co-commentators are dreadful. McManaman and Owen both make me want to burst my own eardrums.

Whoever was commentating for our game last night was atrocious.

The EFL playoff commentators were nice. It can be done right when their employment isn't done on the basis of inclusivity or an old boy network of shit footballers.

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https://www.theguardian.com/football...field-farewell

We've replaced him almost perfectly to a point we won't miss him as a team but fuck me is it still sad. I can't recall my feelings for Xabi at the time so it might be Macmanaman that last hurt me like this.

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Seb Hutchinson. I prefer not to speak.

I've only watched a couple of BT streams and McManaman is reason enough for me to not watch the game at all.

I'm fortunate enough to not get many BT Sport streams, but every game McManaman gest absolutely slated online, as does the awful Michael Owen, which begs that question, why did BT keep employing these people?

Presumably no one gives a fuck about the opinions of people who complain about commentators online.

Once it's not Gerry Armstrong then I'm happy. Ray Houghton is fairly shite too.

I understand the sentiment, but question the timing on Spurs revealing a massive Harry "he's one of our own" Kane mural.

That's a lovely hit from Kane.

Will he still be one of their own when he leaves?

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Or they care very much and continue to employ them for the engagement.

I've always thought it was weird how strikers like Harry Kane, who can put the ball exactly where they want them when finishing in open play, are never on free-kicks.

Big rebuild for the Spuds when he goes, and surely he will. This lot are going nowhere.

Mason out?

Brighton should have 6th place secured tomorrow. :cool:

Klopp would have nutted the 4th official by now. Referee has given Liverpool nothing.

Why do refs let teams waste time so obviously? Martinez has been taking a minute for each goal kick.

Most persecuted team in the league, just like the city.

Should have been at least two occasions of ref to the VAR monitor late on.

Villa played well for 30-35 mins but have reverted to anti-football early. They should go back to how they started.

Goal chalked off for offside despite it being a Villa player knocking it to him. Make that the 3rd wrong VAR call today.

How is that not a goal? A Villa player played it backwards... like it wasn't even close.

This is absolutely shambolic levels of timewasting. Sooner they bring in the dead ball clock stop, the better.

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Peak Emery ball.

That's the point that relegates us. Thanks Wolves, you useless cunts.

I'd say Leeds still have a chance. West Ham have a European final to get ready for and are now basically safe. You also have Spurs on the last day and it's Spurs ffs.

Leicester now need at least a point at Newcastle to avoid Everton and Bournemouth playing out a bore draw.

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Time wasting [led from the front by the heroic efforts of Arsenal with their shitty little huddles and Newcastle in a more standard fashion] really seems to have become a massive thing this season, but I don't know if it is just more obvious or is genuinely becoming more of a 'problem'. First half time wasting feels like it has properly established itself as a go to tactic.

That's been a spicy set of playoffs in the lower leagues.

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I'd say Leeds still have a chance. West Ham have a European final to get ready for and are now basically safe. You also have Spurs on the last day and it's Spurs ffs.

Leicester now need at least a point at Newcastle to avoid Everton and Bournemouth playing out a bore draw.

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Leeds are more Spurs than Spurs. Kane will score 5.

Awoniyi has been incredible the last few games for Forest.

Salford in the mud. Sky will be absolutely sick

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Lol.

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My man been sitting on this for weeks with a sweat on like a big black anal plug.

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Got your seethe on.

Arsenal XG currently 0.00.

Thomas Tuchel doing his best to ruin Bayern’s season at present (in before a late goal).

Gotta be an inside job.

Nkunku :cool:

Getting his own back on Tuchel after the latter played him at right back before selling him at PSG.

Absolutely pumped

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Not as good as Gapko.

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Happened to the wallpaper

It keeps fucking appearing on every link I post :D

Still not a bottle, @phonics?

Season was over as soon as they signed Jorginho.

Steve Cooper :cool:

Can't believe he's only 43. He must have had a hard life.

He looks like a decrepit David Platt

That's the weakest, most limp dick bottle job I've seen in ages. Kudos Arsenal, just genuinely gave up at the end.

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Steve Buscemi

Chances of Chelsea beating United on Thursday?

Not happening. There’s not a chance Fulham wouldn’t roll over for them last game anyway. They only need a point from 2 home games. Keep dreaming, son

Aye, even if United weren't at it, Chelsea aren't scoring.

Arsenal struggling to role out the 'in any other season' line now.

What is it, 84 points their max total now? I bet there's not many titles since the 90's you'd have won with that.

Stevie Cooper is a special manager. No matter what he looks like appearance wise. U17 World Cup winner with England. Swansea in the playoffs 2 seasons in a row. Forest from the bottom of the table to playoff winners. Then staying up this season after all he's been put through. He's alright isn't he?

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So yes.

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Looks like he has a sexual disease. If I saw him in the clinic, he'd be the one I'd be certain about.

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The best description I ever saw was that he always looks like he has just escaped a headlock.

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I'm sure you're the expert.

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Probably only the Leicester one in recent years [ie since the days of Sir Alex lolling off the league with 75 points every other year].

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It doesn't look like the players were arsed about the imaginary league 'if only' title once City were 1/100 to win the league.

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He is basically how I imagined Mahow's old man (obviously more competent at managing his affairs like).

Born blagger that bloke.

They bought spectacularly and kept faith in a manager when changing would have been the go-to option but he's a shit owner because look at his BMI and his funny accent. Get to fuck. Southampton's Aryan PR cunt and that Hammers gammon pornographer don't get any kind of coverage.

Admittedly they also don't boast a 20 paragraph wiki section on offences such as match-fixing and drug trafficking but still, proper gammonati manouveres.

He's probably snorting cocaine off a couple of prostitute's arses right now. I thought you'd love him.

I'd give him another year before he pops off due to kidney complications.

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Getting his own back on Tuchel after the latter played him at right back before selling him at PSG.

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This would be more lol if Dortmund weren't inevitably going to meff it up somehow.

Watching MOTD. Is Dominic Calvert-Lewin currently the worst “sick note” player. Man is never fit. Makes Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lallana look like Inaki Williams.

He must have a compromised immune system.

Everton surviving this season is a disgrace. The days of needing 40 points are apparently long gone. The bottom 6 all have less than 40 and there's teams qualifying for European football with only 18 extra points.

Are we about to become a farmers league with a few super clubs?

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Ffs :D

I knew that that Bournemouth ground was shit, but I didn't know it was barely eleven-thousand. I thought it was more like eighteen. Throw them out of the league.

That decision to rule out Gakpo's goal would be baffling if it wasn't so perfectly emblematic of how VARs all too often get obsessed with some minor nuance of a law whilst missing the wider context of the game. Konsa was clearly trying to both block and play the ball, probably not in the way it ended up going, but that doesn't make it unintentional. I'm not even sure why that rule exists, but if that is the threshold for unintentional then god hep us.

It was the same thing earlier in the season in [I think] the game between City and Everton, when one of the Everton defenders made an excellent diving save and the VAR was so obsessed with whether the arm was in a natural position as the player fell to the ground that he missed the fact that it was a full-on save and was clearly a handball/penalty. The arm was in a perfectly natural position, if you are trying to fall on a ball and stop it with your hand. No penalty.

Keita and Chamberlain missing out on the last game at home yesterday with injury was a fitting legacy for both.

Chamberlain I can forgive, he played 42 games [basically 30% of his appearances over his 6 years] that first season before dying against Roma, but Keita's clocking in 129 in all comps [out of what must be over 300 possible] without ever seemingly having been badly injured is ridiculous. What a sack of shite. Thiago's disappeared off the face of the planet too [probably not a bad thing], no wonder Liverpool's midfield is a bit ropey, seems to be a major signing blind spot zone. You'd think it would be easier to find players who can 'just run'.

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Chamberlain I can forgive, he played 42 games [basically 30% of his appearances over his 6 years] that first season before dying against Roma, but Keita's clocking in 129 in all comps [out of what must be over 300 possible] without ever seemingly having been badly injured is ridiculous. What a sack of shite. Thiago's disappeared off the face of the planet too [probably not a bad thing], no wonder Liverpool's midfield is a bit ropey, seems to be a major signing blind spot zone. You'd think it would be easier to find players who can 'just run'.

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I think Oxlade explains the latter part of that. Before he arrived it was very much the story of industrious but technically a bit meh midfielders. Emre Can, Milner, Henderson and Lucas.
The signing of Oxlade to play in the midfield three showed him you could fit a more technically gifted, but less industrious player in there full time. I'm sure he would have tried Coutinho there more but this was around the time he was trying to slither away. Lallana was great in the role too, but was rarely fully fit.

The injury ruined him, but since he's tried to replace him with something similar. Keita, Thiago and Harvey Elliott are all attempts to get that kind of player in there. As the club has been busy trying to find that player, they've let slip the other positions where you do need the guys who run all game.
Whether the upturn in Trent has affected THE PLAN in any way remains to be seen, but leaving a gaping hole at RB in every game is not the way.

Hendo at RB is the way, if only to stop his terrorism in midfield.

Sam Allardyce trying to give the fourth official £5 :D

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FA will probably fine him.

Mr West Ham prancing around with no shame whatsoever.

Is it just me or is Enciso rubbish?

Did I see some mad stat earlier that Brighton have had more goals from teenagers than the rest of the league combined?

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Not that many overall tbf. Feels like that's gone down from 10 years ago.

BBC had Brighton on 8 earlier, and now 9 I guess, although they had the rest of the league having 9 as well.

Whatever happens, we deserve to go down.

That’s a great goal if it stands.

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Last time a team in 18th managed 40+ was West 'Am when they still had a Defoe / Di Canio strikeforce in 02/03. I think this is fairly standard and 40 was always the "if you get that you'll definitely be safe" rather than really needing it to stay up.

Going to be a rogue foot playing him on there.

:wave: Fuck off Leeds.

At least we don't have to pay fat Sam £2.5m...

Don't think any of our lot have hit double figures in the EPL since Keane.

Someone being able to stay up on 33/34 points is hilarious

Maybe they should just relegate everybody with less than forty points, promote anybody with more than seventy-five, and have two-legged play-offs for any oddments (i.e. somebody on thirty-nine points and somebody on seventy).

Frank Lampard is a genuine retard. Blocks Chukwuemeka from going to u20 World Cup just to bench him again for Loftus Cheek who is joining Milan in the summer. Madueke and Mudryk benched as well - benching guys who are meant to be getting blooded in for next season as he has in all his games.

I know he was shite but I didn’t think he’d be that stupid.

Comical defending.

Second relegation on Sam ‘I’ve never been relegated’ Allardyces books. Awful defending.

Just the same as the other two chancing cunts. Players are shite tbf.

City are gonna score about 5 here with a reserve team. Lampard is class

He really is new levels. But the greasy cunt will still have a load of gammons defend him on twitter :D

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Preventing a young player from going to the World Cup when you only have 2 meaningless league games left seems very off. Especially if you don't actually plan on playing them.

Dortmund doing their best to bottle Bayern/Leipzig's gift. Should have it with that red card, nevertheless.

As if they're going to clear the pitch by just asking nicely.

If they're not cracking skulls, they're not clearing it.

Gateshead lost the FA Trophy final. Damn and blast.

A lot of bald folk in this Man City staff

Stunning bit of defending from Valencia against Vinny, wait for the nocontext vid :D

Now he's lost his head and is pointing out a Valencia fan for a bit of harmless monkey chanting or something.

Sent off in 98thmin for retaliation for being put into a headlock :D He surely can't stayin Spain. Swap for Kylian?

Spanish players really are the worse for that fake tough guy shit. Mr fucking big guy until they feel any contact then they are on the floor like a little bitch.

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The lack of effort and fight out there is unbelievable.

I saw Ayling's post match interview and he just outright admitted none of them are anywhere near as fit as they were a couple of years ago and it's hurting us. And that's the captain (effectively anyway, Cooper isn't about enough) saying that.

It needs gutting down to the fucking roots. It's so frustrating to just see us destroy the entire thing in the space of a couple of seasons. But I feel like there are not many parts of the whole setup that are salvageable at this point.

just looked at bundesliga on oddschecker, why are Dortmund gigantic favourites despite only being 2 points clear?

It's an 18-team league, champ.

Because there's just one game left.

Probably still a fair question, mind.

Any kind of Klopp non-aggression pact between Dortmund and Mainz?

ahha oh lol, my fault for my EPL normative ignorance of non-38 game leagues.

Seeing as Newcastle are all but qualified for the champions league they should really be doing their owners a political favour and sinking IRANIAN OWNED Everton tonight.

I'm not sure Leicester could win even if Newcastle let them.

Certainly not when they drop Maddison and Barnes. :D

Juventus now docked 10 points instead.

What the sweet fuck is going on with the dynamics of this game, they seem to have swapped roles, someone needs to tell Newcastle they need a point.

Backing Everton to not beat Bournemouth at home is a ballsy move.

I watched the final 10 mins and that was absolutely grim. Both teams playing at a walking speed praying for a 0-0.

Gammon managers are well and truly in the mud this year and that Leicester performance is a great demonstration of why. The fucking fat British cunt came in with that team selection and played shit on a stick football with that squad at his disposal with 3 points of such magnitude on offer.

Joelinton is massive for these cunts too.

Fuck me that was a football manager special.

Glad I didn't pay much attention to that. Job done but I'd rather made third a foregone conclusion.

All this Vini Jr stuff is quite interesting. What I can say is he hasn't a prayer of changing anything in Spain. Racism just isn't the same dynamic there at all, and if you superimpose the Anglo or indeed French/Brazilian historical context onto it they will just look at you blankly and say why can't I black up or monkey chant, it's just harmless fun.

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Gary Neville is a funny bloke.

Somebody should make a 'Virgin Gary Neville Property Developer vs Chad Micah Richards Landlord' meme and drive him off Twitter.

Has to schedule 'mini retirements'/Never even met his accountant

Those "mindset" tossers are just the worst.

"People like you and I". Fuck off.

This Spurs Dutchman-in-waiting is simply too bald to be given a serious appointment (or indeed the Spurs job). People haven't been that bald since about 2006.

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Such a bizarre comment from Neville, the assumption that most of us are just taking 5 week holidays every now and then, or not working 9-5. Man of the people, my arse.

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I quite like Steven Bartlett on Dragon's Den, but his podcasts are full of wellbeing and mental health shite, seemingly with almost every guest. It's ok to have a shit day or experience, it doesn't need to be held up like some badge of honour/learning experience for everyone to grief wank over.

And as I've said for ages, Gary Neville is a complete tool. Good pundit, but he really should just stick to that.

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Mount and Gilmour, incredible maggots as expected.

Definitely a yellow, this...

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The foul is an accident, but for having the temerity to protest the decision in the referee's face he should get life without parole.

Test would be proud of that big boot.

I’ve just turned on the Real Madrid game and Rüdiger is playing left back. :cab:

He’s making the most of it as well, channelling his inner Roberto Carlos with some of the forward runs.

Haaland 8 assists tonight plz

Loving the Sky people fawning over the Brighton warm-up drills only to cut to a "simple finishing" one where chap 1 [couldn't tell if it was Caicedo or someone else] misses a sitter than swing and a misses the next [hit his standing leg], chap 2 misses from range, chap 3 misses and then tamely hits it at the 'keeper, chap 4 misses from range.

Was Guardiola trolling the other day when he described De Zerbi as one of the most influential coaches of the last 20 years? You know, I'm as sold as the next man, but come on [obviously everything 'Pep' says is dripping in sarcasm without humour and mostly about himself so I guess that was the angle there].

Pep loves managers till the moment they beat him.

DOON @Kikó

Fucking 90+5.

I was at fir park last weekend and we got absolutely shafted all game and could’ve lost by 5, so I suspect the plus 8 goal difference you need to overcome might be a struggle at KVV farewell party.

Haha. would need killie to win 7-0 and to sneak a 1-0 win. Would have been better to just get relegated tonight

Kuol finally got his first goal for Hearts. Good lad.

Atleti going full Arsenal here, Espanyol were 80/1 to win at 3-1, now 3-3 with 10 minutes to play

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Complete pish.

Pep has definitely been descending into madness the last year or so. Not sure what's broken him. Maybe the realisation that he's basically a front of house rep for the Abu Dhabi tourist board.

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He's now signed a new contract at Feyenoord. Spurs are an absolute joke.

Chelsea shirt on tonight. :yn:

I don't think there's anything more hopeless or grim than supporting these cunts currently. Hopefully the cunt has a serious stroke and whoever replaces him starts Felix.

4 at the back and that big black cunt in midfield isn't as bad as it could have been I guess.

Can’t believe it’s taken until now for Lampard to start Chukwuemeka/Madueke/Mudryk/Hall in the same team. Should have been starting the majority since he took over the massive weapon

Edit: in saying that, not a defensively aware midfielder in that team. The spaces will be hilarious

Only basing it off the Arsenal match but that Madueke looks like a really, really good signing. Once that team has a bit of stability he's going to be great.

He makes Saint-Maximin look like a clinical German, dogshit output.

It’s a shame Azpilicueta is playing as I reckon that would be one of the youngest starting XI’s in the leagues history. Only him and Kepa are over the age of 23.

Average age of 22.1 if James was fit

Fast-forward a decade and Lamps will be given all the credit when one of these cunts doesn't have a completely shit career.

I don't know what you TikTok viewers were consuming because you even sold me on the hype but the Chernobyl Dan James is a complete write-off of a top player.

Look at the state of Kepa. Just standing in the middle of nowhere. Either come for it or stay on your line. Don’t stay far off your line and do fuck all.

How have Chelsea managed to have to of the worst keepers in the league :D

Hit it first time ffs.

If United were competent they could have about five already here. Do Chelsea always defend like this? Or not defend as the case may be.

To be fair, Chelsea could have had 2 as well. But to answer your question, under Lampard they do, yes. Midfield all be ‘8s’ doesn’t help with the open spaces but you can’t play Chalobah/Fofana together as both too aggressive and always leaving each other alone.

Oh yeah I mean in this game with the hypothetical finishing it's about 5-2, and could well still end up with that sort of score if nobody sorts their shit out.

Antony is such a whopper.

I don’t even know what has happened to Antony there. Just fancied an early finish I think.

Rashford should score a few running in behind Azpilicueta if he is up for it

Jesus, Antony out the cup final, that is gutting.

There goes another one.

A finishing masterclass.

Mudryk’s 1st touch is special

I’m not having that Mudryk was anything other than money laundering for the Ukrainian government.

Enzo is something else though. Gallagher would be a good player if his legs weren't 2 steps behind his brain, he's perpetually falling over.

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He looked really good in the CL group stages. He even got applauded off the pitch by Madrid fans. That Chelsea cure is diffy tho

These blokes just cannot finish to save themselves. composure goes straight out the window

Casemiro is so fucking good.

Frank Lampard has a special talent of making teams attacks look very competent. He has to have the worst PL record of all time in this spell?

I'm sure Waff is about to point out how it's "all over FT mate", but just seen someone call Mudryk "Chernobale" which made me lol.

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Imagine how fuming Allardyce will be if they hire the Fiorentina manager they’re being linked with, who is literally called ‘Vincenzo Italiano’.

I really thought we would somehow conspire to balls it up and lose tonight but Wank Lampard is too powerful.

Chelsea :lol:

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Wasn't the Shaktar chief exec on the pitch at his Chelsea unveiling celebrating the sale? :D

Can someone explain just exactly what has gone wrong at Chelsea this year?

I know chucking money at this game isn’t a guarantee of success but how can you spend the amounts they have and look so desperately poor? On paper this looks like a pretty great squad with amazing depth. Yet on the pitch they look pathetic. Wide open at the back and look impotent going forward. How?

Felix is good.

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I know chucking money at this game isn’t a guarantee of success but how can you spend the amounts they have and look so desperately poor? On paper this looks like a pretty great squad with amazing depth. Yet on the pitch they look pathetic. Wide open at the back and look impotent going forward. How?

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I'm sure the resident Chelsea fans know more but supposedly it is a combination of having 3 million players, managerial changes, also Boehly trying to run it like a yank franchise, going into the changing room after losses to bollock them etc.