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So now that I've convinced myself it's going to be a good night for Rollins I'm quite looking forward to Night of Champions.
Going to be devastated when he loses both titles clean and gets thrust into a few with El Torito.
Yes, Ian.
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The Wrestling thread such have a much better wrestling based name.
"Wrestling: It's still real to me" or something better.
It doesn't matter what it's name is.
I've been watching regularly for the past few months, and it's nowhere near as bad as this place or /r/squaredcircle makes out. It's not perfect by any means, but it's still entertaining.
As long as Sheamus doesn't walk out champion, I'm fine with the outcome, as long as it's a good match.
Yep, I went through that stage. Started watching again in 2012 and for the first year or so I loved it. I watched every Raw and Smackdown religiously and couldn't understand when Browning came in here and shat all over it. I reckon it was the novelty factor.
Once you watch for an extended period of time the lack of creativity and downright stupidity really comes to the fore.
I think that's the only reason I can tolerate PPVs, even when they're bad... because I don't watch any of the other stuff at all.
Watching a bit of Judgment Day '05. Unless there's an obvious one I'm forgetting Angle/Booker might be my favourite Booker T match.
If it wasn't for work tomorrow I'd actually be thinking about sitting up for this tonight. The Divas match is the only one I genuinely have zero interest in.
I won't get to watch it until Wednesday :(
I think they have every WCW and ECW PPV and a some Nitros. Once I'm doing going through all the WWE PPVs I'm going to get cracking on some WCW ones. I've a long way to go though, as you can see. ECW One Night Stand up next, followed by Vengeance '05 (which looks shit. Can't see Batista vs. HHH in a cell being much cop.)
They have all the Nitros through the best times now (96-99) and I've been working my way through. Just hope they get Thunder and WCW Saturday Night up as well.
It also made me realize just how good Tony Schiavone was. I remember he got a bit of stick before but Christ he made every moment feel important unlike today's morons.
"RKO! Outta nowhere! For the win!"
Until you realise the greatest night in the history of our sport happened every other week.
Think The Dudleys will win, maybe DQ or grab the belts as New Day beating them on SD always means one thing with a PPV up next.
edit: AH man, Dudleys went from 2.62 yesterday to 1.10...... :(
Also WWE not gonna really shit on Sting and have Sheamoose beat him straight after are they?
Is this a 'rumour'/ reveal that you're spoiling here or is that a theory you have/have read that you hope is bullshit? In fact, don't answer that because you're probably spoiling shit again and I'd rather not know.
Having the Dudleys come back, squash a few and immediately win the titles would be pants but exactly the sort of thing WWE would do. I'd like to see New Day keep them by hook or by crook this time and then the Dudleys get them in a table match or whatever. Spin it out a bit.
Posting odds should be spoilered, especially when they're that low.
It was more the Sheamus bit that had me thinking you'd done your favourite trick.
As shit as the booking is sometimes I'd be a bit miffed if they gave Sting the title just to take it right off him.
Have you lot watched that round table thing that was on the network, the members of New Day just having a chat over dinner? It was great, no 'kayfabe' or anything.
I was just wondering as Sheamoose is not on the card?
What if he adds himself in the Cena match as a 3-way, does that become a winner takes all (US and WWE title)match then?
Probably depends on who's making up the rules that day whether that can happen or not. I'd have thought it would either have to be a new WWE title match demanded on the spot or adding himself into an ongoing one but I don't know for sure. I suppose logically you're right, because he can't just cancel out Cena's US title shot, can he? If he rocks up during that with the briefcase they wouldn't just be going "Sorry John, your match is over."
I reckon Seamus will turn up but not cash in again.
Hopefully noone saw me making a twat of myself.
Stop with the 'Sheamoose' you complete bellend.
Got a feeling you're right about the tag titles, Ian. Wouldn't be surprised to see New Day retain just to keep it going a bit longer and just because they only just won them back recently. The Rollins matches are tough to call, though.
My gut reaction would've been that I can't see WWE taking the title off tv again with a part timer but they had no problem with it this time last year. my guess is that he retains the U.S. and loses the World Heavyweight.
I did.
Deleting it rather than just leaving it there and admitting you gimped up for all to see is the coward's way out, though. :nono:
Joking aside, I don't think WWE can be arsed with working out how it'd work if Sheamus claimed his shot during the US title match. He might turn up and lurk about but it won't happen, I don't think.
Just watching the 1992 Rumble. The British Bulldog is in such ridiculous shape. He bodypresses Flair with such ease. Also amazing to see a fucking piledriver in the middle of the rumble.
This was the first wrestling show I ever watched - I was about 5 or 6 at the time. I fucking loved it.
It's a bit strange now seeing piledrivers on old shows.
It's especially weird that the piledriver is banned but Taker comes back every year and does it. Not sure what type of message that's supposed to send.
Is it not a simple issue of them trusting him to not botch it/do it if he's not certain it'll be safe? Plus he's big enough that if the recipient scissors his head they're covered.
That said, all it takes is for him to fuck it up once...
So Rollins' matches are back to back, with the US title match first. Very surprising.
Yep, I did a double take when Sheamus said that. Rollins could be in the ring for close to an hour tonight.
Holy shit, Taker v Brock at HIAC. That came out of nowhere.
Brock off the top of the cell? :eyemouth:
That Divas match was alright but the non stop squealing from all the wankers at ringside was unbearable.
"COMEONNIKKICOMEONNIKKICOMEONNIKKI". For fuck sake.
This contributes fuck all to the discussion but I met him in a dog park about 6 years ago. He was living in St Augustine with his missus at the time and just happened to be at the same place my mate took his dog. We had no idea who he was until we got talking to him.
My roommate at the time was from Dublin and after talking to him for a bit he offered to get us tickets. We never took him up on them but I was soundly impressed by how nice of a bloke he was.
That final corner powerbomb fucked Sting good and proper. It was very uncomfortable at the end when Rollins was having to call those desperate spots so loudly and he collapsed when ducking the clothesline.
Just a pity that WWE has had to rely on a 56 year old to main event and setup the next feud with a 48 year old Kane. And lol at the idea we're supposed to take him seriously now he has his wig-mask back on. Geezer has been jobbing non-stop for as long as I can remember.
Makes me wonder if someone had plans for Sting back in the day and, now they have him, they want to implement them. You just can't get away with that.
Oh dear Sting. Shame.
NXT referee Drake Wuertz, formerly Drake Younger in CZW was the fan??? Got to be bull right?
They're just two bald blokes.
It was Serena from CM Punk's group, Jeet.
How good must Don Cena be to have beaten Seth Rollin[g]s fresh when Sting (Sting the ICON) couldn't even beat him knackered?
It's nice to see Kane back in the main event picture as well. God knows he deserves the push.
Sorry I lol'd at this.
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- Owens and Ryback was probably about as decent as could be expected. Correct result too. The eye-rake thing in the ending just made me think of a quote I saw from JR where he was saying things like that are basically meaningless now because while we're aware they're 'against the rules' you never see anybody get pulled up for them by refs.
- Oh good, just what Ziggler and Rusev needed, a bullshit ending thanks to another bullshit 'twist.' Great.
- Dudleys and New Day was better than I expected. It also had the correct result, though I think it would have been better if the New Day had actually smashed the pair of them through some tables. The Dudleys are going to get the titles anyway sooner or later, why not let TND have a proper victory over them?
- While the music/countdown coming on was good what is going to be the point of that Jericho appearance? Are him and his saggy tits going to stick about? And why was Orton not there? Is THE VIPER scared of a sort of headlock thing?
- I'd missed that Rollins' matches were going to be back to back. It was sort of weird actually, the booking felt much more like how you'd book a face and two heels as opponents, especially with Cena AA-ing him between the matches. Their match was really good. No idea who Cena will be up against next for the US title. What heels at that level could do with a boost? Anyway, the main event was about as good as Rollins was able to make it. Sting was doing alright until the table spot where it went downhill and then it went completely pear-shaped after the powerbomb against the turnbuckle. But then he is a thousand years old so this isn't exactly surprising. During that ugly-looking sharpshooter I was really worried for a moment that the old fucker was actually going to win while being apparenly unable to bend at the knees. Mini-cheer when Rollins got the win.
- Sheamus is quite lucky he only lets the world's slowest referees try and cash in for him. I did do a mini cheer when Kane came out even though he's been made to look like a shit arsehole since I've been watching again and they had him in his shittest attire. So he'll get a month of Rollins. They're not actually going to give him the title again, are they, as some sort of mental last hurrah?
Not a bad show, anyway. Some good matches, some iffy endings. About par for the course really.
Has he got the mask back?
Surprisingly, I didn't think much of last night. It wasn't awful, but it just wasn't good. The only good moment was Jericho's music hitting, but then he jobbed to big Eugene and ruined everything.
They really should have had Sheamus cash in during Cena/Rollins and then Don Cena pin Sheamus to win both titles and beat Flair's record, before smashing Sting at well.
Kane's return was shit. No one is taking him seriously just because he put a mask on, and it makes no sense that he waits til the exact moment when assaulting Rollins would save his ass to do it.
The way they ruined Jericho's pop with that ten second countdown was a shambles.
Just watched the show (well, had it on in the background).
Owens winning is good, even if it wasn't exactly convincing. Owens v Ryback isn't a hugely exciting feud, so hopefully we'll get Cesaro or someone similar challenging KO instead.
New Day continue to entertain, and the result was probably correct. Ziggler/Rusev sounds like they've just accepted that half the creative time used to write soap operas & have let them run wild on one feud. Not surprised by the way the Divas match played out - Charlotte's probably even less entertaining than Nikki, but at least we might get good matches & feuds now.
Jericho was kind of a rubbish surprise, but there weren't really many partners that could've been much better without being an NXT callup, so whatever. Cena winning is unsurprising & I'm not sure what the point of the champion v champion match was if everything was going to be back as it was a month later, but then again it's WWE so it's pretty much standard procedure.
Sting seems to be done - apparently he's on RAW, so I assume he's retiring, as that injury is apparently very serious.
Oh, yeah, and Kane was there too.
Well they have Brock vs Taker on the cards, so they can afford to have a shit/filler title match.
I haven't watched any WWE for quite a while, so a few random thoughts:
When did Rusev return to being Bulgarian, and why?
The New Day are superb, and the PPV crowds' reaction said as much, but Raw's crowd was painfully silent. Very odd.
I reckon Sting's injury is just an aggravation from this:
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Without looking at any previous results or wikipedia, have a wild guess what happened to Rusev.
So this is really the angle they're going with for Kane? :D
I think it's hilarious. In a tragic 'so they've just let the writers run wild with any old shit' kind of way.
Is Sting dead then or what?
Nobody has a clue what's going on with him. Every report I read is different. I'd suspect it's not all that serious. I mean, he did get up and finish the match, so how people were claiming he'd broke his back and/or neck is beyond me.
I doubt the STINGER actually broke his neck but Austin also finished his match with Owen Hart when he got piledrived through the floor.
I'm sure TNA did the same with Abyss between his lawyer character and monster version.
He poked his tongue through a hole in his face so anything is possible.
RAW on October 19th could be incredible.
Why?
Austin, Flair, Michaels and Taker all appearing.
Ric Flair having to get his boring daughter over is a bit tragic, although I did lol at PaigeJ Lee calling the squat ginger one the 'least relevant'. How true.
Didn't realise that Lesnar's "tour" was including televised matchs, just thought it was more Network rubbish.
With all those legends.... they're planning some awful shit, aren't they? :(
Cynical or not, I'll not be doing anything other than going mental once the glass shatters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXudyBan4AE
:drool:
Yeah. When he came out at WrestleMania and saved that **** ***** segment I was chimping out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPp0ukVFRts
Angle and Austin were fucking brilliant together.
The Austin/Angle rivalry was the best thing about the Invasion storyline. Great chemistry.
What the fuck is going on with Kane? :moop: The whole multiple personality thing was shit when TNA did it with Abyss, and it looks like it's going to be pretty bad here too.
Paige's turn was interesting, Nattie's still alive & jobbing, and New Day continue to bring the lols, but that's about all of RAW I bothered with.
Well, excpt for Braun Strowman's amazing promo. "I caught a snake once..." :D
Watching NXT. How the fuck do you do spoiler tags on this forum?
- There's a fucking Super Dragon chant in the Eva Marie/Carmella match :D Gotta be honest though, Eva looks alright (her entrance is terrible), and Carmella looks shit. Her Enzo-isms are annoying.
- In before we get a 'Family of The Rock' stable on the main roster with Nia Jax, Tamina, Roman Reigns & The Uso's.
- Have the seriously covered the 'Bull-Shit' chants as 'Bull-Fit'? Amazing work.
- Breaking Ground looks like it should be an interesting show.
- Really fucking weird seeing Kana jumping about all excited & smiley. Hopefully we'll see her kick the shit out of both girls at the next Takeover.
- I have no idea what the gimmick of this Dusty Classic tournament is, but having half the matches at live events is rather odd, and Joe & Balor getting so far kinda takes the piss a bit.
- The main event is hardly very interesting when the exact same match happened like two weeks ago.
Emma saying she drove Charlotte and Becky out of NXT :face:
That Super Dragon thing was weird, have I missed something or is that just a complete non-sequitur?
Ashley is actually from HR :D
Anyone noticed she changed her clothes twice / made alterations to cover her chest up.
The fucking trombone. :drool:
The lowest ratings from a Raw episode since the 90s apparently. It's what they deserve for putting on shit for so long.
I read a review of the show and it just sounded so boring. With no real competition, they can get away with it unfortunately.
I noticed this from the Main Event spoilers:
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None of those shows really count as canon, Smackdown barely does as it is. You could have Heath Slater beat Brock Lesnar on Superstars and you'd never hear of it again.
Watching Vengeance '05. What the fuck was going on with Lillian Garcia proposing to fucking Viscera?
Well, he was the World's Largest Love Machine.
Wasn't that Mark Henry? That old woman giving birth to a hand was the day wrestling died for me.
Michael Swole :cool:
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It was definitely Viscera. Even if he didn't look entirely different the Godfather came out and called him "Big Vis" a load of times and encouraged him to sleep with prostitutes.
What a Grade A cunt Cole looks.
Mark Henry was Sexual Chocolate.
Any time someone complains about WWE being PG, remember one of Viscera's trademarks was pretending to sodomise his helpless opponent.
Or Triple H and Katie Vick.
What does "sodomising" actually mean? Is is just generally being demeaning to someone in a sexual situation, is it having anal sex, or is anal rape, or even something with bestiality?
Cole's nipples...... :sick:
Road Dogg's pumphandle slam springs to mind.
I had Raw on and they said that Roman Reigns and Bray Wyatt have been feuding for five months. I suppose it keeps them both busy and out of the important things, but fucking hell what a shit and pointless rivalry.
I find Bray Wyatt so redundant. He aimlessly finds himself in feuds and rambles in meaningless riddles. He's the WWE's Kool-Aid Man.
You can join me and Browning in the Anti-Wyatt Family.
AKA The Twats.
Just watched Cena vs. Jericho at Summerslam '05. The crowd was ridiculously loud. Shawn Michaels vs. Mr Redacted up next. I'm not sure I've actually seen the full match, just Michaels doing his digging thing during Hogan's entrance and the over-selling of the big boot.
Isn't that the match where Hull Cogan refused to lose, despite it being the plan, so Michaels way oversold everything to taking the piss standards?
That's the one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf4LsjwAWho
Doesn't show the digging, sadly.
Haha some of those are just ridic.
Lol at Michaels getting the hump over another guy's attitude. You might want to take a look in the mirror, you bunk eyed cretin.
@Ian, where are you getting all these PPV's? Please tell me there's a big pack of them together somewhere.
WWE Network. I expected I'd have binned it off by now but it's well worth the money between old shows and current PPVs.
Indeed. Two unprofessional dickheads having an arse-off. Probably for the best, Hogan's too shit to be creative about his tantrum if HBK had got the nod.
Read Eva Marie's opponent at a NXT live event got injured last night.
To be fair to the 2 of them, most of the top guys from the company over the past 20 years have been the type to throw a hissy-fit if they didn't get their way. Undertaker not wanting to lose unless it's a 'big guy.' Triple H refusing to job to RVD for the same reason to name a few. Some even flat out refused a feud all together.
Eric Bischoff makes a similar point in his book. He gets shit for giving Hogan and that creative control, but he says the big names have it anyway.
Did The Rock ever do it? Stone Cold did, obviously, leaving the Rock of the big'uns from "my" era that I can't think of having done it. But I'm probably forgetting some.
The Rock seems like too nice a geezer.
The only thing Dwayne did was cover his man tits up for a few months wrestling with horrible shirts on.
About the only thing I've heard about him along these lines is that he thought Michaels was a wanker and didn't want to work with him. Was it after Stone Cold refused that Rock did the job for Brock? And what a job he did too.
Anyway, how long is the first Brocktoberfest show likely to last tonight? Trying to decide if I can be arsed sitting up for it.
I've enjoyed Big Show's recent 'I wasn't always shit you know' promos.
The lols when Brock squashes him within about six minutes.
:moop:
Weeks and weeks of Big Show running over random twats, cutting way too many promos and it's over in about three minutes. Standard.
Worse, in that first minute or so of the match I actually thought "Blimey, have they booked this properly?" Lol, no, of course they haven't. The MONSTER gets beaten by a few shoulder tackles, three German suplexes and an F5. I also wish they wouldn't keep doing everything the exact same way in this Dudleys/New Day thing. New Day keep the titles some way, the three of them somehow have the Dudleys down then get beat up anyway, Woods goes through a table. I mean, at least mix it up and have them do their corner powerbomb through a table on him. Something. Anything.
Anyway, rubbish ending aside I really enjoyed the cage match. I know HHH/Stephanie have got this whole Devil's advocate/tough love thing going on with Rollins which is meant to be making him stronger but why the fuck would they late Kane lollop about as DOO at this stage?
I'm watching some Raws and PPVs from 1993.
So far there's been an awful lot of hair and an almost unbelievable amount of neon, and that's just Randy Savage. Plus Hulk Hogan, even in '93 he was a shit has-been.
The PPV's from 1994-1995 were my faves of the pre-Attitude Era. King Mabel's WWF title run was strange to see having grown up on him being Viscera and winning nothing but one Hardcore title for a few minutes (as you do).
Speaking of Big V...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jImwKuQC39I
Royal Rumble 94 has Yokazuna / Undertaker in a casket match. :drool:
Hopefully Vince will call him a bo-hemoth again, he really played the long game with that one.
TNA have got to be having a fucking laugh.
They have Bound for Glory, their WM, and they put the championship on Fat Hardy who hasn't been relevant in 10 years. As if that's not bad, they follow it up with a storyline where the ex-champion cries about the "deck being stacked" and files an injunction, and 2 days later, Hardy has vacated the title. Just go bankrupt already.
I can't believe they just let Baroque Les-nar squash Big Show like some jobber. He was getting some good momentum.
I was at my friend's last night and we were lolling at the idea of Survivor Series being headlined by Cena and the Dudleys (and two other Cena Friends) vs Seth Rollin[g]s and the New Day (and somebody else), and it looks like it's shaping up that way if the end of Raw was anything to go by. Fucking hell.
Unless he's either a model pro, just likes the money or both why does Big Show even bother any more? A (shit) build-up for a couple of weeks, a match that started promisingly before he got squashed and then doesn't put up any resistance at all as he gets lolled off on Raw.
Isn't it a house show no one cares about though? Or are they trying to make out it mattered?
Death to the creative team.
This has got even worse. They've announced a World Cup Tournament to crown the new champion, using the same format. 32 Wrestlers in groups of 4.... 3 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, top 2 advance to a knock out tournament.
If that's not a shit enough idea, one of the groups is all women.
When was the last fucking draw in wrestling? 1983?
To be honest, that's no different to what they did in WCW in the late 90s when they took the World Heavyweight Title off Sting and a few years prior. Difference is, TNA are flogging a dead horse while WCW were still competing with WWF/E at the time. They should just put that company out of its misery. I also heard Jeff Jarrett is back now?
He's sort of back. He founded his own company, GFW, and they "invaded" TNA, about 2 weeks later they blew their load on a 5 on 5 "Winner takes all" match and TNA won. No idea what happened after that.
I believe that Jeff Jarrett is bigger, and better, and could draw more money, than Hulk Hogan.
ICW wrestler appeared on NXT yesterday :)
Speaking of ICW, on course to sell out a 5000 arena with still a month left. The true GOATS.
Going watching it next Friday. :cool:
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Grado and Spud together. That shit should be great. :D
Internet has been a cunt the last couple of days but I've finally been able to watch Takeover Respect:
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Agreed on the Iron Man match, it wasn't great.
By which I obviously mean it was the best match of all time, before it even started.
"This is awesome" chants when they've stood looking at each other for 40 seconds. Fuck off.
Balor attacked Itami, boiiiiii
Did you see what, Dan did in his post? He used spoilers.
That was a prediction, you dinghy.
Don't lie to me, son.
Watched One Night Stand 2005 with my mate who hadn't seen it before. Still fucking class. It probably makes me some sort of blood-crazed lunatic, but I've rarely had more fun watching wrestling than I did during Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x26a7f_one-night-stand-2005-mike-awesome-v_sport
I'm not far past that actually and I too enjoyed that match. Survivor Series '05 up next. Did somebody in here not tell me that the Booker/Benoit best-of-seven series is really good?
Also, who the fuck is Palmer Canon (not that I'm going to be watching the Teddy Long vs Bischoff match) and why the fuck was Daivari refereeing Cena vs. Angle?
What I'll always remember from the Benoit/Booker feud
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwgTTEUyPY
Suicide Dive? Uuuhhhh, phrasing?
My marathon (which is officially better than yours Ian, so there) has now reached Royal Rumble 1997, fuck me it's getting good now, the last half of 1996 just went mental (comparatively) with Stone Cold realising that he could do whatever he wanted and everyone would love it.
I mean, the Pillman home invasion thing was fucking crazy, how the hell did they get away with it?
That's the name of the move, Disco. Is that Mike Awesome match the one where Joey Styles wishes suicide upon him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_s-CKQzPmM
I love that. Something tells me that wasn't a prop, either. :D
Yeah I get that, it's a bit like hearing occasionally uncomfortable things said about Owen Hart. Given what happened it's somewhat unfortunate to have someone saying that he 'bends but does not break' during commentary.
"Benoit just loves hurting people, JR!"
":uhoh:"
First time I've ever seen that match from One Night Stand. "This match rules," indeed.
I know nobody would have bought it anyway but WWE could at least have pretended Kane might have a chance of winning rather than battering Rollins in every single encounter so far since he started lolloping about as THE DEMON KANE.
Also, lol at that ending to the Ziggler/Summer Rae/Lana thing. Not that I'm not glad it's over, you understand.
I've not watched in a while but is he really back to being THE DEMON KANE?
He's doing a split personality thing where he's cheery corporate suit and then you turn around and he's masked and can fight real good again. A bit like TNA did with Abyss and Joseph Park but without anyone trying to pretend they're not the same person.
I like Corporate Kane. :gs:
In other news, I'm loving the evolution of Vince's gravelly voice. We're into proper MON.DAY NIGHT RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA territory now.
Insane Wrestling
@InsaneChampWres
#ICWFearAndLoathing is the highest grossing card in the UK since Daddy fought Haystacks at Wembley in 1981. Thank you!
Yaaaaaaaaa.
More than Summerslam? I doubt it.
Edit- Unless they mean by a UK based company? Which probably isn't very impressive.
British Wrestling companies, m9. 5200+ is a fucking superb effort. Its not even London or Manchester is well.
Mark Dallas :cool:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZKyZRTEY34
I was right not to expect much. She managed to look shit even in a squash match. She doesn't exactly look like she's in the greatest condition, and her arsenal consists of a bearhug (the hallmark of a big 'power' wrestler who can't do anything technical for shit) & a sloppy 'one armed spinebuster' that she used both arms for.
Tamina's better than her. Poor Evie :(
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Nikki Storm is apparently likely to start with NXT soon, and Athena's just made her debut. Both should be awesome - Storm is good in the ring & an excellent gobby heel, and Athena is probably one of the biggest names in womens indy wrestling - if you haven't seen her finisher, that alone will make you drop your jaw, although there's virtually no way WWE will let her do it as half the roster would probably literally die taking it.
Storm is the better of the two, in my opinion, and certainly the one better suited to WWE, while Athena has always been (finisher excluded) kinda average to me, but I'm sure she'll do well as she's definitely not bad, and word is she stepped things up after she came back from injury a while back (I wouldn't know though since I've barely watched anything in the last year or so).
Of course you like Corporate Kane. Why wouldn't you.
5200 for an indie event is HUGE anywhere - for perspective, CHIKARA were getting hype for having just over 1000 at WrestleCon a few years back, SHIMMER's capacity is about 300, and PWG supposedly fills up at around 500-700. ROH's Field of Honor show in August drew 2200 & their joint shows with NJPW capped out at 1500. TNA, meanwhile, have apparently been drawing less than 500 at recent live events :D
I'd be surprised if we'd had many four figure attendances from UK based companies, nevermind drawing that many.
Going to see some ICW in Liverpool tonight. Pretty damn excited.
ICW was boss!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I252sKM2CY4
Sami Zayn's post-show promo from his appearance at EVOLVE 49.
What did everyone think of Brock Lesnar on Stone Cold's podcast?
For me it started off ultra boring but soon got going once we darted talking about the past. Was a bit annoying how eager he was to show his disinterest in sports entertainment, and is clearly just in it for the money, but that's nothing new. Was good though.
Austin on RAW though.. what was the point? Purely to advertise the podcast? Lame. Didn't even stunner anyone.
Hoping it's Bryan, Sami Zayn or Joe to face Cena. Anyone else I will be pissed off.
.....
Nobody should ever stay in character for those podcast shows, it'd be awful.
The end of the Paul Haymen one where they fake argue was so bad it almost spoilt what had gone before it.
To be fair, they've pulled it right out of the bag with Del Rio. Noone saw that coming.
Because we didn't they they'd be that dense
Please explain.
He's more bland than Sheamus. Great matches, like, but a boring creature.
Should have been Carlito.
My memes are in tatters.
lol what. Cleanest loss ever.
Is he going to beat him down, or what?
Wyatt loses another feud. yay
Has Wyatt ever won a feud? Also when did Kofi stop being from Jamaica?
Steve Merchant on the front row
So does this mean Undertaker is Sister Abigail?
ADR is a good worker. not a fan of him though, did get stale towards his last run. As long as he don't use the armbar as his main finisher I'm fine with it.
Did expect the Wyatts to come out after seeing the SS promo. They are just glorified jobbers now.
I was marking out for Del Rio. :drool:
It all went downhill after that. It was obvious that something was going to happen at the end, since it was running short and no way was 'Taker going out at a secondary pay pay view, but lol at the Wyatt Family being involved.
Massive lol at him for being a hypocrite.
Hope they get Del Rio to cut some actual promos. When he talks in English he sounds like the kind of person that would hold your family hostage because he has nothing to do on an evening.
I like to think Jack Swagger was behind the curtain, ready to go, having seen Zeb Colter was booked.
He's god boring as a face.
I suppose Cena will join Taker's survivor series team and get taken out by the Wyatts - Hoping Brock then be his replacement :youpi: What a pop he'll get!
Cena's out for 2 months
I know, but they'll need a reason as to why in storyline mode.
He's alive! Batista and Shane McMahon at the Spectre Premier.
I always imagined Shane would come back to the WWE once Vince goes, it would make more sense than handing the multi-billion dollar reins to HHH and watching him get lolled out of the boardroom.
The state of this cancer segment on Raw. Triple Haitch could get some proper heel heat if he recalled all the 'malignant tits I've taken care of', but no, he just stands there looking like a pleb.
Dean Ambrose is actually Roman Reigns' valet now isn't he?
Del Rio is carrying this four-way. :cool:
Bored of ADR already. His first match was stale. No chemistry between him and Zeb, he just stands next to him and does fuck all.
Wish they got Carlito back instead.
http://youtu.be/Fo6QzC5n8IE
The New Day continue to be head and shoulders above everything else entertainment-wise
Big E having a sneaking look when she takes it off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmAsqtGRmk
Quite old so a few of you internet poindexters have probably already seen it, but this is both one of the stupidest and one of the best videos I've seen on youtube for a while.
That's a pretty decent vocal impression to be fair.
It's still amazing, but the lad ended up flogging it to death.
Renee was told to cover up. Did this with the HR lass aswell.
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Are rasslin' games good now, or are they still fundamentally about who can bash the most buttons the fastest?
All caught up with the wrasslin' now. I thought they were going to spin out the Reigns/Rollins thing and have Rollins screw him out of the title shot until I saw who was in it and the next best option for a feud with Rollins was Ziggler.
And yes, the New Day are still the best. I like that they appear to be taking stupider and stupider shit, running with it. Trombones, unicorns. They're ace. I'm surprised/pleased that they haven't given the Dudleys the titles yet.
Also, what the shit is this latest Wyatt stuff all about? I was half expecting Kane to come out last night and the end so wasn't surprised to see him after Wyatt on RAW but I dunno what, if anything, this is building towards. Something rubbish, almost certainly.
I reckon there'll be a Survivor Series match between the Wyatts (Wyatt, Strowman, Harper, Rowan) and Kane/Undertaker, but who their two partners would be, I haven't got a clue. I thought they were going to be Reigns and Ambrose.
The Smackdown **SPOILERS** that I read mentioned....
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Hope it's The Dudley's or a tag-team, so they can build on this after too
I thought this was my stream on RAW, but actually they meant to be like this :D
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JBL screaming about the Wyatts having no honour taking him away was nice considering it's exactly what he was doing for the Undertaker 15 years ago. Acolytes to make up the rest of the team.
I know we're all saying it all the time but The New Day are just so good. Them rocking out during the Owens and Rollins entrances was ace. Also enjoyed the Brothers of Destruction montage during the Bray Wyatt ramble. Still no idea what this is building to though.
And, in a shocking twist, I actually thought the booking for the main event looked like somebody with a semi-functioning brain might have been involved.
Breaking bad news :( http://www.wwe.com/inside/seth-rolli...eries-28164051
Seth Rollins is vacating the WWE Title and he's out for 6-9 months due to right ACL/MCL/medial meniscus tears.
That sucks. It'll be Reigns... won't it.
That said, after HIAC I really had a sense of "Yea, I'm bored of Rollins now"... so oh well.
Na that is expected. If he does win will be cashed in by Sheamus.
All the big guns gone, Cena, Orton, Bryan. Ambrose in the IC picture
My vote is Del Rio or Great Khali.
They are gonna boo the shit out of Roman even more if he wins it like this.
Didn't most people expect Roman Reigns FINALLY winning the title to be the big WrestleMania moment? If they bring that forward what replaces it?
Don Cena breaking the record.
Of course! Then have Hogan cash in.
Undertaker retiring? Unless that happens sooner.
There are no good heels at the moment that aren't constantly jobbing. Got to be Roman and Sheamus so they can also build the feud until Cena comes back.
We have no WWE and no TNA world champion :D
Cheers, Jeet.
Would Don Cena cut short his time off to come back and SAVE US?
Rollins :(
It'll be interesting to see what they do now, but still not interesting enough for me to watch. Reigns & Sheamus have to be the favourites, with Cena next likely, but there really isn't anybody else on the roster who could be a legit top guy beyond those three, which sums up how terribly WWE has built up its talent over the last few years.
Somebody call Dwayne :cool:
If they hadn't spent the last few years burying all their decent guys this wouldn't be an issue.
Bring back Punk.
Horrible timing, and I genuinely feel sorry for the guy. But just think about the pop when he comes back :drool:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them bring Bryan back, since he's supposedly been cleared to compete.
Other than that, they're bound to roll out at least one Attitude Era guy to fill the gap.
He's in india for 2 weeks anyway. Just accept it's Roman or Sheamus.
For 2 weeks? How soon is survivor series?
Just put it on big show for fuck sake.
The rage when Cena returns to win it. :drool:
Cena won't win it, but he'll turn up on RAW the next night and declare that as he beat Rollins recently he's the "real" champion, and then the new champion will lose the belt to him after less than 24 hours. Then Cena will survive a cash in.
They've been giving Cesaro the startings of a push, throwing the belt on him with no buildup and booking him as an awful champion seems the way to go. Alternatively, he defends valiantly until a jealous Tyson Kidd returns and there's your WrestleMania 34 main event.
Rewatching Brothers of Destruction vs. Power Trip because it took my fancy. Forgot that Kane kicked Stephanie right in the damn face. :cool:
Kane. :(
EDIT: And Big Red Machine is definitely better than this Demon Kane/ Devil's Favourite Demon nonsense. (Defo not nostalgia, obvs.)
My mother is looking for a 'Hulk Hogan book' for my brother for Christmas, but he doesn't appear to have written one himself [brother]. There seem to be numerous books shitting on him, so has anyone read a decent one?
This one is apparently written by him around the time he made his WWE comeback - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hollywood-Hu...rds=hulk+hogan
As it's 2002 it'll completely miss out TNA and all the recent unpleasantness and just be stories of him bench pressing the 1000lb Andre in front of a million people at the Silverdome.
I should have said a recent one. Wrestling books, especially the ones released through The Company, are generally shit aren't they? I seem to remember a few of you rating Chris Jericho's book, but fuck the Vanilla Midgets.
All of Foleys books are quality and easily the best wrestling ones out there. Never read anything by hogan though.
The Rock's book was almost a work of fiction so the WWE released ones are a gamble. I think Jericho's books are outside of WWE, but he does disappear right up his own arse so much he comes out the other side by the third. Bret Hart's book is my favourite. I love him, but he's an angry and bitter man.
You should just give him a printed collection of his Tweets, Lewis.
You can show him the infamous 'Brooke's legs' tweet, as well as hundreds of tweets where he tried to get 'Be Cool and Eat Fruit' over, as well the time he retweeted some guy for going 'balls deep' in his daughter.
Fuck off is Big Show out already.
I'd like to see Dolph Ziggler get a run with it.
I love that Kalisto, Titus O'Neil and Tyler Breeze are in there. What is the point?
So it's an Ambrose/Reigns final by the looks of that. Be interesting to see the winner of that, win dirty and go heel. Unless someone does there isn't a heel other than Bray that I can think of and he's busy.
Roman Reigns vs Ziggler. Bray Wyatt interferes, costs Ziggler the match, and then feuds with him for six months (unsuccessfully) trying to coax out his dark side.
Yeah looks like WWE given Roman a "hard" draw so he can overcome the odds bla bla bla
What a shambles :D Hasn't Breeze been on the main roster for about two weeks? And when did Kalisto or Titus O'Neil last compete in a singles match, let alone win one? Quite surprised R-Truth isn't in there as well.
I was going to say it was a massive slap in the face to all the midcarders, but then I remembered they don't exist. Probably a bit ambitious of WWE to go for a 16 person tournament when five or six of their top guys are unavailable. Might've been better to go with an 8 person tournament or a massive ladder match or something of the like so they don't have to expose the hideous lack of depth on their roster for everyone to see.
In before the massive Stardust push.
Could have put Swagger a former WHC in and even Sandow former MITB winner. I know they are fuck all now, but is Miz is in. Bo should have been in aswell. Former NXT champ, what has Kalisto done?
Lulzy spoiler for a RAW 'special guest' segment tonight.
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The right hand side of that draw is a proper state.
Reigns vs. Ambrose has yawn written all over it.
I just don't see who, other than Owens, could actually get away with beating Ambrose out of those lot. It won't be Owens either because it's too soon.
If it is Ambrose and Reigns then Sheamus needs to come out with a Rollins style cash in mid-match to make sure none of the two ruins their 'cherry pop' title.
Were this a tournament to face Reigns at the show I could see them have Owens beat Ambrose but then lose the crucial one and have him vs Ambrose at the PPV with somebody else getting the title shot. Owens isn't getting a title shot.
That spoiler is the very reason I stopped watching. Well, one of the many reasons. That sounds horrific.
Darren Fletcher completely ignored by everyone despite playing for The Manchester United for years, still having a better 2015 in WWE than Damien Sandow.
Should had waited until SS for Taker and his jober brother to get their hands on Bray
A "This is awesome!" and two "Holy shit!" chants for a load of predictable guff. Good work, Manchester.
Three or four dodgy finishes for the matches as well.
A top-notch Raw all round.
A friend of mine went and he said seeing Undertaker live made up for what was a pretty shit event.
I can imagine that's true. I saw him back in the day at a Smackdown taping and it was incredible. Probably made better by the fact he was storyline injured and appeared out of the blue for a dark match.
Raw shit? Shocking that.
I went to Insurrextion 2003 and I got to see Rodney Mack in action, so you can all sod off.
I shook D'Lo Brown's hand at British Uprising 3, which also featured megastars AJ Styles, Spud and Hade Vansen who had that one vignette on Smackdown before assumedly dying.
Did you ask him when him and Regal are having their Ultimate European Championship match? Admittedly given they're at four apiece probably only the Mania main event slot following a four month feud would do it justice.
To be honest, I was too busy crying and trying to conceal my erection to concentrate on anything.
Raw this week got 3.16 million views. Raw from Liverpool last year got 3.93 million. 20% of the audience gone in a year.
I'm throwing a party when we get into 2 million territory.
You're such a weirdo about the WWE.
I know. It just bugs me how shit its become.
There has always been a lot of shit, it's just that there isn't now quite such a concentration of talent at the top end. I reckon the average is about the same, it's just that the peaks are less frequent.
There wasn't any shit until whichever year I stopped being a child. None at all. So I think you're mistaken there, Webly.
I love watching Val Venis get his naked jacksy smacked by an irate Japanese as much as the next man, but still...
Stay strong, Lewis.
Mark Mero and Barry Windham say hi, every fucking week.
The shit was always there but the good stuff was streets ahead, I've just passed King of the Ring 98 and it's about a million times better than anything even vaguely recent.
Eddie Guerrero died 10 years ago today. Cross post in 'things that make you feel old'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GqSNs93dos
Let's all watch that again. :drool:
Is that 10, 15, or 20 years after he should have retired?
Selling that leg like a champ.
So Billy Gunn has been fired because he failed a PED test at a powerlifting competition in July that WWE didn't even know he was competing in. He's also been banned from powerlifting for 4 years.
What an odd story.
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It's a 4:1 ratio to account for mega-athletes doing just enough gear to stay competitive. The actual 'normal' ratio is something like 1.2:1 for normal adults. What was he doing?
What an ass, man.
Lads, I've got the '06 Rumble up next.The show as a whole looks fairly atrocious but does anybody have any strong opinions on the actual rumble match? Retrospectives on it seem a bit mixed and I'm loathe to sit through something if it is in fact megashit.
Also only just saw that Kalisto beat Ryback on Smackdown. Did not expect that.
New Rey - need to boost the Mex's ratings.
Basically they wanted Kalisto Vs ADR.
Yeah that was the only non-Rumble match I was looking at.
Though I might watch Boogeyman squash JBL inside two minutes.
On the back of my D'Lo/Regal post I've just been looking at how a similar matches for other titles would lookand came across the fact that Bradshaw was a 17-time Hardcore champion. I know they had the 24/7 thing and loads of times when the title changed hands a bunch of times during the same show but still.
Does that count each time a title changed hands during the same match as a reign? Because that's not how WWE counts it, and I can't imagine Bradshaw winning 17 actual championships.
Crash Holly, maybe. Bradshaw, no.
Bradshaw won the Hardcore one 17 times during that period where he was getting pinned while waiting for his bags at the airport. No?
Raven was a 27-time Hardcore champion within a span of less than two years. Prestige!
Yeah, each title change was a 'reign.
Here's a three night tour of Canada from 2002 - new champion, who they beat, town and date:
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02
Wasn't there a pay per view where it changed hands about fifteen times? Trish Stratus (somebody with tits anyway) had it for about ten minutes I think.
Yea, I was going to say Raven smashed that. There's a few people with stupid number of reigns. Add in that one of Godfathers Hos had a reign and you can tell how prestigious it was.
Yea Molly Holly at WM18, though Trish did also win it, I think on RAW.
GRADO won the title last night :drool:
I thought Raw was doing really well (who'd have thought basing it around meaningful wrestling matches where everybody appeared to be trying would work?) until it decided to end with the least enticing of the night's big matches, not booking it to involve anything approaching a surprise and then finishing with a fucking Divas contract signing.
So Taker and Kane destroyed all 4 members of the Wyatts last week and now they facing 2 members at SS.....
Roman's match was great. Got shit after, the Del Rio and Rey jnr jnr match was awful.
Wrestling logic. :drool:
Odd choice though, I just assumed it'd be a Survivor Series match. Do we have any of those actually booked yet?
Nothing yet, but they might throw some together on Smackdown because that's what counts as buildup now. When the tournament was announced I thought we'd at least have an 8-man series on the PPV, rather than just three matches.
My and my friend were lolling at having the ladies contract signing as the main event, but then Paige dropped the dead brother crack and suddenly it was the best Raw moment in ages.
They have confirmed a 5 on 5 tag but named no names.
Survivor Series is now in doubt because Anonymous reported ISIS were targeting it. WWE say it's going ahead as planned... but that could change.
I don't remember any pay pay views being beaten by terrorists when Don Cena was the champion. Funny that.
Google has Anonymous saying "Er, no, we didn't say that."
Anyway, in non-terrorist news that Survivor Series card is looking pretty weak. And whoever ends up in the 5v5 it's probably going to be a bit of a state.
Survivor Series is not a big 4 PPV anymore.
I might watch tomorrow night to see how they close out this tournament. Hoping for an Ambrose heel turn.
Someone's going to have to go heel, surely?
It should be Roman Reigns for two reasons. One, nobody likes him anyway. Two, how would you even know if Dean Ambrose turned heel?
At this point Reigns might as well borrow Dwayne's notes, join a heel stable and then wind up on Oprah talking about depression.
OSW review's X7 review is out. Its amazing.
Extra security for tonight's event. They REALLY don't want people getting in with CM Punk signs.
I wonder if they'll exploit the ISIS thing. I'd have said no, but they have just closed Raw by using Ric Flair's dead son without telling any of the parents.
Hopefully whoever turns doesn't end up joining 'the authority' and then trying to pussy out of every match or get disqualified for the next year. Seems like that's how they book every heel now, Baroque Lesnar aside.
That's probably true. SummerSlam is going to fall back to the pack, since it has nothing to make it stand out beyond the bullshit that usually comes with it. The Rumble is only worthwhile for the rumble match itself, and even then it's been pretty rubbish the last couple of years if I remember correctly.
At least MITB has some element of spectacle & importance, which is certainly more than can be said for SummerSlam & Survivor Series, but yeah, Rumble & Mania are the only two events with any real draw, particularly for casual fans, these days.
With the rumble, it does help if you don't know who the winner of the match is going to be about 6 months in advance.
The best thing about the last Rumble was the title match which was superb.
Survivor Series needs to have a properly built-up 5 on 5 match and SummerSlam... I'm not sure what they can do with that other than have it be the culmination of a number of big feuds. But that'd require planning and stuff.
I assume that back in the days of world titles not being on the line every five minutes the thing with the big four was that there would always be a world title match?
SS is the PPV I always hate the most due to theses 5 vs 5 crap. Because it's 5 on 5 the 1st guy gets pinned within 2 mins where if it was 1 on 1 the match it would have gone 10mins+ :face:
See also: the majority of tag team matches. Not inside two minutes but that's just what I'm going to call the Law of Inverse Resilience.
The more people in a team-based match (and even just in multi-person matches where people are on their own) the more quickly they get battered.
@Dan
Even MITB has lost something over the last few years for me purely because they mistreat so many of the winners. Ziggler and Sandow became jobbers, Sheamus has been inconsequential since he won it, Orton was booked like an arsehole when he had it. Rollins was booked better last year but nothing to shout about it. They need to realise that concepts like championships and MITB have to be treated with respect for people to actually care about the outcomes.
Same with the rumble.
Yeah the use of Sheamus has been bizarre. Yet another weak heel. Shock, horrow, etc. He was already onto a downer because Rollins' eventual cash-in was done so well so to have him looking so weak is poor.
Yeah, but terrible long term thinking when it comes to booking decisions is a problem across every event. At least with MITB we might get an exciting match out of it before everything goes to shit.
Anyways, what are we expecting to happen with the WWE title tournament tonight?
Roman v Ambrose. One of them to win dirty. Either that or Reigns wins and Ambrose beats him down after the match.
You're all going to be disappointed. Roman will win clean and Ambrose will raise his arm after the match to endorse him.
Reigns is winning anyway so they may as well have Owens do something scabby to get past Ambrose, lose to Reigns and then have them two feud while Reigns begins his own feud with.... erm....
.....
Hmm.
Anyway, No Way Out 2006 up next. The final match (I think?) of Booker and Chris Benoit's series should be decent and I've already seen that Angle/Undertaker match but I'm going to watch it again.
Survivor Series was good last year, and when they do the main match properly it's a great idea.
I think whatever happens tonight I'll cancel the Network until the Rumble, I just don't use it anymore. I'll watch tonight until it puts me to sleep.
I dunno whether I'll stick with paying for it every month once I've watched all the stuff I want to watch. But then, I'm fucking ages away from that.
The Curb Stomp was absolute perfect for him. And on the subject of high-flying stuff, has he ever actually hit that Phoenix Splash? I know there's a lot of stuff (mostly the Shield stuff) I've not seen yet but it always seems to be a set up for some variety of miss.
Anyway, going through No Way Out 2006 and the whole Matt Hardy/Tatanka thing is fucking random. (Skipped that one.)
I only found out really recently that Tatanka came back in the 2000s and had another run. I loved him as a kid.
Well, my network isn't working, so fuck it.
In general or right now? Because mine was working fine earlier but now seems to be fucking about.
Yeah I can't get on either. Looks like it's down.
Didn't realise there was another hour til kick off. Still can't be bothered to stay up for it so will catch it tomorrow. If it's working by then.
Back up now
Goldust is back :drool: Nice surprise for the pre-show
Didn't even occur to me to watch a bit of the pre-show before I go to bed.
What's Goldust up to?
I know it's pretty obvious where all this is going, but I'd love for them to give it to Owens. Reigns is so shit when he has to talk.
Reigns is just a dork isn't he.
Wait the fuck they don't just wheel out Undertaker for WM?
This marks 25 years of the Undertaker(they keep going on about it). I imagine he'll win this and then turn up again for a retirement match just after the Rumble, leading to WM.
Ah right makes sense. I've barely followed wrestling in the past few years, this Tyler Breeze seems a cunt. Gather he's a future talent or summat.
Yeah but the 'I'm so good looking' gimmick never lasts for long. He came through NXT, which is where most of the better guys on the roster are now coming from.
Cheers Gray, you got this on lock. Shame its absolute bollocks currently.
That's improved it a little. :D
Okay, that was pretty great. Ha.
Got to laugh at that ending. A proper shit PPV overall, but the ending was great.
Just like the Lesnar v Reigns match at WM, that was probably the best outcome.
Pretty sure he's legit crying.
Absolutely awful show. They're not even trying anymore.
According to sources close to #WWE, #Cesaro may have torn rotator cuff. If he seeks surgery for this treatment, he could be out of action anywhere from four to six months.
Bad #news for him, and sales of Tyson Kidd sleeves.
Yea that was an awesome show but Sheamus teaming with his gym buddy was the best outcome.
You knew something was up when the parade started, but given how they shat on Sheamus earlier in the night I just figured Triple Haitch would pedigree him and declare himself the winner.
It was pretty crap overall. Wasting Goldust on the pre-show as well fucking hell.
No idea why my post says it was awesome. I assume I meant to write awful. Because it was apart from the ending, and even that was just best case scenario after they booked the tourney badly.
8mins the Roman and Ambrose match was :D
Jobbers all these months and sometimes not on ppv's, now WWE expects us to think Sheamus is a star. Same goes who Bray, no-one gives a fuck about his promos if he can't back it up.
As has been said already, fairly rubbish show but a good ending.
Yep. As soon as all that fuss was getting made something was clearly afoot. I briefly pondered some sort of Reigns heel turn until he was giving it the funny looks before HHH even got in the ring.
When Reigns/Ambrose started as though it were fifteen minutes into a 25 minute match I intentionally avoided looking at the time to see how long might be left because I'd wondered if there was a cash-in coming.
So Sheamus vs. Reigns for the next PPV anyway. Are they building up to having Reigns win his second Rumble in a row or is Cena going to come back and lol his way through that?
When HHH came out I figured it was going to be a lame "HHH pedigrees him" ending leading to a match between those 2 given that HHH Vs Rollins was seemingly planned.
As soon as JBL said Ambrose has cleared the ring to leave Roman alone - You knew a cash in was happening.
So Shitmus has the top belt?
I would laugh but you know...saw that coming. They probably won't give Reigns another legit shot to be fair.
Sheamus dons it when he gets booked properly (not being John O'Cena), so he'll be fine.
Del Rio still has the top belt anyway.
Bored of Del Rio aswell already. What a shit gimmick too. Looks like a right knob standing next Zeb saying feck all holding the flag especially all oiled up like that :D
I liked Sheamus when he was a heel first time around, but they made him such a joke when he became face that it's too late to comeback from that.
The only option they had was to book Roman as a heel with the lack of heels at the moment. Even with all the injuries the product hasn't changed.
Good point (Browning obviously). He's also the best wrestler in the world until Don Cena comes back.
Speaking of which, I'm normally the first to call Dolph Ziggler a waste of time (mate you've been holding your knee for weeks), but what do they expect to gain by having him put Fandango II over? It's not like that twat is going places.
Just to put over the NXT brand - See Adam Rose's first month.
Ziggler said he will retire in 2 years. He'll never be WWE champ now.
Dean Ambrose Challenges Sheamus to Parking Lot Fight Before RAW
http://www.allwrestlingnews.com/wwe-...ht-before-raw/
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Pat Patterson battled through 16 men on one hot, sweaty night in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to become the Intercontinental champion. He was backstage last night, probably with a tear in his eye
Speaking Henry, lol at him getting beaten in about a minute on Raw.
The whole show was a bit pants, though I was surprised by how long the main event went on.
Are Rusev and Barrett like Sheamus' gang or actually part of the Authority or something now?
Apart of European Ultra or whatever shit name it is called.
Have they been referred to as that on telly and I've just missed it/ wound through that bit?
I still don't fully understand the mental disorder I have that makes me spend huge amounts of time reading about the crazy world of professional wrestling despite barely watching it anymore. I've probably spent more time in the last 2 years listening to Lance Storm talking on podcasts than I have watching matches.
I like the idea of a European stable (if it is a stable). Once our referendum campaign gets under way they should have Barrett turn face on them and get Nigel Farage in to manage him.
Brad Maddox released by WWE
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b5&oe=56EF7894
Was he the Turkey?
Jimmy Fallon's laugh was the fakest thing about that sketch.
Just had a good chat with the independent wrestling promoter from the old louis theroux documentary on facebook. Geezer with the barbed wire in his van and shit, he's a decent bloke.
Apparently he got fired because he said "Cocky Pricks" in a promo
I've just been reading some recent TNA results, and this week's episode of Impact wrapped up the first round of the TNA Championship tournament.
Gail Kim and Awesome Kong are the two qualifiers from the Knockouts group, and therefore are going to be wrestling Tigre Uno and Jessie Godderz in the Round of 16.
What's the point? Did they not have enough male wrestlers for a 32 person tournament? Am I looking for sense in a place that doesn't have any?
TNA has signed a TV deal with POP TV. :D
Didn't Awesome Kong retire the other day?
Asked if he kept in touch with Louis. "Yes I talked to him from time to time for a few years but then we lost contact. the last time he called me he was writing a book about his show, and said he may want to interview me, but i never heard back. We did have fun doing it. I hate i dont hear from him anymore. It was a fun experience"
Told him I'd go to an AIWF show if I was ever in the States. I'm such a loser that I probably would as well.
I think most people worked out who was winning the World Title Series before it even started based on all the tapings they have done. It's fucking laughable how many of the people in it aren't even with the company any more.
That Angle/Undertaker match is still a belter. Wrestlemania 22 up next. Card actually looks pretty solid.
Especially Boogeyman vs, Booker and Sharmell.
I watched Survivor Series last night and you've got to wonder about that ending. I personally think what should have happened is that HHH should have attacked Reigns and just booked a match right there and then for the title between the pair with Hunter winning. The Authority start to become overly powerful and Reigns constantly gets screwed. One night HHH puts title on the line against Reigns with the stipulation that the only way Reigns keeps his job is by HHH losing the title at whatever event. Both put on a hell of a match and HHH wins via another screwy decision as his on screen buddy Sheamus gets involved to cost Reigns his jobs. Celebrates with HHH before turning and cashing in on him. Monday night, HHH is livid and things go from bad to worse as the stipulation was Reigns would only lose his job if HHH lose his title. Sheamus finally gets over.
They probably could have gone for something a bit more interesting but HHH having the title again. :sick:
He probably will at some point, right enough.
The problem I've seen with 'The Authority' from limited watching, is that it's dragged on too long. There's always been the heel GM/owner angle, with some kind of catchphrase("Best for business. In the interest of fairness, etc"), but there's always been a challenger. The last 2 I can think of were Don Cena, who can do it because he's the top guy on the card. The other being Bryan, who pulled it off through being so over with the crowd. Reigns is never going to be able to do it by himself unless he learns to talk.
The other problem with HHH/Steph is that they rock up one week and take all the heel heat, but then sometimes even later in the same show they act face.
They should have just let Reigns take the title imo. We all know it's coming soon, so why not give him a moment? But saying that, there was no top heel now that Rollins is gone. So I guess Sheamus and the now not-Russian Rusev are the best ways to go.
Yep, the Authority really are neither one thing nor the other.
The main problem is that Bryan Vs the authority felt real. Whether there's any truth in them not wanting him as the champ or whether that was just designed, it felt like you had to support Bryan to help him get there. With Reigns they are trying to manufacture the same situation while we all know they're wanking over him backstage. Just doesn't work.
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Feckin' Jaysus.
Loads of factions now, yet jack all for SS...
League of Nations created last week, no-where to bee seen when Sheamus gets attacked...
I was never an ECW guy so I've just been disappointed when the Dudleys've twice failed to bring out Spike Dudley.
Tommy Dreamer looked like a waxwork, but fortunately for him Rhyno looks like complete shit.
Rhyno looks like he's about 25 stone trapped inside enough skin for a 16 stone man.
EZ Money and Roadkill will show up on the PPV so the Wyatts can lose another feud.
Watching WM22. How long has HHH been doing these ridiculous entrances at Wrestlemania, then? :D Fucking hell.
EDIT: And yet this mobster thing between his and Cena's entrances is even worse.
EDIT again: No, shit, it's actually Cena's entrance. Fucking hell.
Keep your eyes out for a straight edge gangster among Cena's crew during that entrance.
Enjjoyed that match. Especially when you compared it to some-spots-and-a-finisher in the other title's triple threat.
Also loved the crowd being well into HHH battering Cena with a sledgehammer.
Orton out until 2017, needs more surgery and even when he does return could be part time.
Looks like Bryan's and Sting's career is over too.
What a shit thing for all involved.
I thought Bryan was cleared to wrestle months ago and that only the WWE docs refuse to clear him :serious:
That's the story, yeah.
Highly tempted to give NXT a go. Is it as good as everyone says?
You're about a year late. It peaked in 2014 until early this year. Now it's nowhere near that quality but still worth a watch.
Watching Backlash '06 (well, the two matches on it that look worth watching... sorry HBK/God) and suddenly since whichever PPV I saw last where Shelton Benjamin wrestled he is a heel. His main heelish behaviour appears to be grinning and smugly and brushing his hands extravagantly.
Sheamus, Owens & Wyatts @2.22 - £100 on
edit: Balls, Owens you knob. Did shit it after I placed it, should had back New Day. Won £700 over the weekend, so run ended.
You shouldn't be allowed to handle your own money.
This was good
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I thought that was a good pay per view, bullshit at the end aside. Triple Haitch vs Roman Reigns at Royal Rumble (which he will probably fucking win again)? Ugh.
The tag match donned (they seem to be the best things at half of the pay per views these days), and the trombone spot was brilliant. I also thought Alberto 'Best Wrestler in the World' Del Rio vs Swack Jagger was particularly well done in terms of getting the former over as a shithouse. It's just a shame the pre-show mentioned Ricardo Rodriguez a couple of times getting my hopes up that he would come back.
The tag match was really good. Didn't watch the rest in full but may go back to Del Rio Vs Swagger. I just hate the concept of a "chairs" match but it looked good. The divas was mental. How have they fucked it up and made them both heels?
Stick RAW on for the first time in.... a year? And Vince McMahon is coming. :drool:
Unfortunately there's no chance he's the next segment, so I'll fuck it off before he does. But still. Vince. :drool:
I could have watched Vince all night. But there's no way I can survive another 2 hours to get to the title match so.... that's me done for about a year.
Didn't stay up but just read the results. What the fuck are they playing at?
Turns out Vince McMahon can get Roman Reigns over, all he had to do was show up.
Even that didn't really seem to work from the bits I saw. Reigns only getting a lukewarm pop against McMahon can't be a good sign.
He got a huge pop* when he got the 3 count.
*By today's standards
A title change on RAW will do that, I guess. I can't see it lasting long, but we will see. I half expect them to take the belt off him within a week.
HHH vs Roman for the title
HHH to be champ again :drool:
They went madder for him last night than I've seen since he was the guy at the end of that Royal Rumble who wasn't Batista.
Wasn't it in Philly though? That's a good crowd in general.
Philly was the crowd that first went against him
Everyone followed because Philly is cool
Last night was the same arena he won the Rumble in, and even Rock couldn't stop the boos that night. Vince McMahon being one of the best on-screen characters in history showed itself again on Raw.
.....
It would have been better as a surprise but "No Chance" hitting is my favourite Raw moment in ages.
Vincent Kennedy McMahon. :cool:
And that main event and ending was belting too. I was actually liking Sheamus as a champion as well, if only because he wasn't just a relentless coward and was actually challenging Reigns.
Jesus
He'll still get shat on by the Royal Rumble crowd won't he? Who wins that now anyway? Baroque Les-nar? Don Cena. :drool:
It has to be Cena, doesn't it? I'd convinced myself Reigns was going back-to-back but clearly not and having Lesnar win it would be an utter waste of everybody's time.
.....
I'm going HHH as Rumble winner. If they're going to boo every winner until the corpse of Daniel Bryan is presented, might as well go with it properly.
If they want major heat on HHH and get Roman over, have Bryan to return at the Rumble, with HHH knocking him out and taking his place and have Roman costing him the win
Daniel Bryan shouldn't be anywhere near it really. Something like that would be a little too transparent, even for WWE.
I thought HHH was facing dah rock?
Is Santino Marella back now? :cool:
He was on Raw and said he was back, so I would also like confirmation. They've probably realised their current comedy jobbers are too shit, too fat, or too English.
Another episode of Teatime with Santino and I'll die happy.
He's not back in as in back for good, just back for that night to present that crap award.
He has a similar injury to Edge
He was on Smackdown too.
Well he can't wrestler, so could have some other role.
I can't see anything about him never being able to wrestle again. He had a bad injury and a set back after surgery but seemingly he was training for a comeback.
We will see though.
Is it? You can bet on who killed someone in eastenders or whatever too.
That's even worse as that was filmed in advance, at least with wrestling you always have the chance of Vince McMahon shitting himself and rebooking with a minute to go.
Or a botched finish. Max Branning can fuck up his lines all he wants but Bradley's still jumping off that roof.
That is absolutely batshit mental and akin to betting on soap opera outcomes as others have already stated.
You guys realise this isn't a sport yeah? I mean I enjoy watching it but i'm under no illusions that all this shit isn't pre determined. I can't get my head round a bookie accepting bets on it. Surely that is wide open to exploitation.
Watching a couple of matches from ECW One Night Stand '06. The reception for Cena. :drool:
EDIT: The atmosphere for this match in general, really. Fucking hell.
Cena Vs Van Dam? It's the best crowd of all time.
Fucking hell, Owens got the jobber entrance and lost to Neville in about 15 seconds. :D
It's a bit there was that odd racist bit about bones through noses because it's so good having Vince back.
"I'm not a rich snob, I'M A FREAKIN' BILLIONAIRE."
If Vince McMahon is so desperate for Roman Reigns to lose the title why is he pissing about giving Sheamus a shot? Don Cena is back, mate (somehow turning the crowd throwing his shirt back into a pop what a legend). Is this shit angle leading up to them bringing Baroque Les-nar back to do their dirty work? That would mean Les-nar going into 'Mania as the heel, and lol at the crowd going along with that.
They're making Reigns even more of a monster than they were when he was getting booed for winning the Rumble. I wonder if he's the one they're going to have properly beat Lesnar (because it's going to happen eventually.)
It's surely going to be him. Don Cena doesn't need it, and nobody else (full-timers at least) is really credible.
It's got to be.
I'd like to have seen them have Rollins give him a better match but they're not going to have somebody who's not a brick shithouse beat him. And as you said, there's nothing to really be gained from having Cena do it.
Dirtsheets and Melzer reckon Luke Gallows, Shinsuke Nakamura and AJ Styles have signed with WWE.
Has Luke Gallows been decent in Japan? Was used shit in WWE and TNA.
AJ - at last :drool:
Prob all come up after WM
Reigns has won the rumble then.
This 'Social Outcast' jobber squad is something, and Stone Coldman Reigns has out-stayed his welcome.
HHH to return and enter himself in the Rumble to beat Reigns :drool: The pop!
I would like the title being on the line during the Rumble more if it didn't make the outcome seem a bit inevitable.
The only thing that interests me with this feud is the remote possibility of a Shane O'Mac return to teach Reigns what's what.
HHH wins the belt, The Rock competes for it at WM
When Reigns won the title I joked with one other geezer that Reigns will still win the Rumble and look at that. I mean fucking hell.
I don't think he's winning it, I can see him being screwed over by the McMahons and Triple H and whoever so we get the ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA being the intrepid journey to win back the championship he kept getting easy title shots for all the time by the authority figures who hate him.
70 years old :|
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Somebody taking that much gear should have done a Macho Man years ago, so it's fair to say at this point that he's going to live forever.
Looks like AJ will go straight to the main roster. The rest will prob go to NXT.
Better bring up Joe so we can have Joe vs AJ again
AJ Styles is 38 years old. Isn't it a bit late to be bringing him into WWE?
I'd imagine given his status in TNA, ROH and NJPW he'd be coming in to be a main eventer, but without acknowledging those promotions what does he offer?
I don't see the point from his point of view in coming to WWE to piss around in the mid card for year or two.
I don't have any real first hand knowledge, but wreddit has been calling him the best wrestler in the world for a few years.
It's not impossible just vanishingly unlikely given that it's Vince 'indicted for distributing steroids' McMahon.
I suppose if the laws of nature don't apply to anyone then it's Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
That magazine cover of him back in the day just looked ridiculous, if I'm remembering right.
If they're signing Styles, Gallows AND Anderson they're surely just going to do their own version of Bullet Club. May as well chuck Balor back in there too. Nakamura's probably there so Bryan can get his match against him then retire, and then they'll just pair him with Itami & Asuka as Kaientai 2.0.
Has WWE still been shit the last few months? I've not watched in ages. Will obviously still be in for the Rumble, even if it is a sack of shit where Reigns is practically guaranteed to be final two at worst. Are there even any interesting feuds going on, or are they still exclusively relying on X v Authority for 70% of the airtime & New Day for 100% of the entertainment?
Baroque win will the rumble.
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They make the T-shirt first, work back from there
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This is happening, isn't it? I don't think they'd acknowledge the rumours if it wasn't.
Interestingly, one of the things I read this morning reckoned that only Gallows and Styles are out of contract - Nakamura and Anderson aren't.
Don Cena is now out with shoulder surgery which makes the whole rumble pointless.
Though being serious there's only one of 3 ways this can go. 1. Reigns wins because Vince always gets what he wants. 2. Lesnar wins it. 3. Someone big returns as a surprise and takes it. I've not watched in a while so I don't know how viable these are but it would have to be someone like Rollins(still probably out for another 6 months), Bryan, Undertaker or CM Punk(I know this one wont happen, but it would be nice). With Cena and Orton apparently out that doesn't leave a lot, so all answers point to number 1.
Unless Reigns somehow is/goes over by the end of it though, it could be bad news for ratings.
Totally fucked the Wrestlemania plans, I bet. Wonder if Vince will get on his knees and beg Austin to wrestle.
Going to HHH vs Rock at WM anyway.
Not sure if they wanted Cena to equals Flair record at WM
Those Bullet Club t-shirts/caps look awesome, want one :D Sort of a Dope Chef look
Wouldn't be surprised if they go with something like this for the big matches:
Rock / Lesnar
Taker / Wyatt II
Reigns / HHH
I'd say it's almost a certainty that Finn Balor gets called up as well now to form his Japanese stable again.
Undertaker vs Cena had some appeal because it feels new and anything involving Big Match John becomes important by default, but there's nobody else for Taker to face that appeals seeing as they've already done his series with Lesnar and reunited him with Kane against the Wyatts. Maybe Strongman Wyatt or something in the sub-10 minute fourth match on the card.
I thought it was going to be Big Match John to give Undertaker his send off.
Is there even anyone left that hasn't been done to death already?
Vince vs Taker :drool:
The Rock is wrestling again?
Everything you can think of involving the Undertaker is a waste of time at this point.
They missed an opportunity when they didn't use Cena turning heel to break the streak, just imagine the scenes.
Can't stand the geezer but I would love to have seen it just for the online meltdown.
And Lewis' wanking himself to death.
He'll be there to raise Romans arm again, you'd imagine.
He'll be wrestling HHH.
Looks like the Road to WrestleMania is going to be exactly the same as always then :yawn:
I feel like the only real surprise we could be getting is the Undertaker returning at number 30 and taking the title at the Rumble. Reigns to then work to WM and get it back off him against all odds.
That or Reigns just holds it til everyone good comes back.
My friend reckons Don Cena was going to win the Rumble (so his title was like Ric Flair's first[?]) before PASSING THE TORCH at WrestleMania.
'Mon Triple Haitch.
The injuries really have fucked them. I thought he was going to be back for sporadic big matches but presumably they'll get the belt back on him for a bit. Dunno if they'd fancy Lesnar vs. Reigns for a second year or anything though, but it'd be a bit lol if HHH was suddenly in a 'Mania main event again.
Watched some more stuff on the Network earlier. I've never much cared for Edge as a singles wrestler but I watched two matches from 2006 today, him vs. RVD and then against Cena and both were really good.
Baroque Les-nar winning it on behalf of the Authority was surely the most likely outcome all along (and probably still is). They just have to get around the whole everybody loving Les-nar problem.
Edge was awesome when he was in the main event picture. I think his injury was the final nail in the coffin for me.
Unless they got Ronda Rousey signed up for a tag match, I can't see Rock Vs HHH happening. It just makes no sense whatsoever.
Rock should feud with Reigns.
I have no idea what that is so I'm going to say no.
:D
There's a storyline where Edge kidnaps Paul Bearer. That was before Paul Bearer's death though. I think that storyline/feud never materialised.
It was before his death? Thanks for clearing that up.
Yeah it would have been even creepier had it been after he died. The storyline is great, he taunts Bearer with an entire buffet.
It was one of those WWE things where the apparent face is an absolute shithouse and we're still meant to boo the person being tormented, like when happy Sheamus stole Alberto Del Rio's car and took a shit on the seat.
It looks like Baroque Les-nar is winning the Rumble then. Sigh. Kevin Owens attacking him was out of character and looked daft, and Roman Reigns needs to stop no-selling things by lolling at them. Have a word.
I've just turned on TNA and my god have they fallen. I remember the last time I watched they were still in the Impact Zone but now... I don't know what I'm watching. It looks like something produced by ITV.
If Lesnar doesn't win the Rumble then Reigns does and they have the rematch. If they did that then they could probably set up an official heel turn pretty easily if they want him to then beat Baroque.
Not that they would after having Vinnie Mac out there doing what he's been doing. One thing, possibly the only thing, I liked about that main event was that Sheamus didn't suddenly get booked as a coward just because Lesnar was there.
And I suppose also that Lesnar continues to be neither a heel or a face, just as Lesnar.
Surprise entrants at the rumble? Holding out for Sheldon Benjamin for about the 5th year in a row.
Is Jeff Hardy still signed with TNA or still injured? He's been doing the 'I want to retire in the WWE' interviews lately. If they're never going to let Bryan wrestle again a return for him here only for Lesnar to murderdeathkill him over the top rope instantly would easily be worth the entrance fee alone.
If Daniel Bryan would count as a surprise entrant I'm going with him. He's been saying more how the doctors won't clear him so I assume everything's a work.
All about Roman leading to WM, bringing Bryan back will mess that up as the fans will want him to headline WM again
Just read SD spoilers. Rey jnr jnr :D
That and getting his mother to fake a heart attack.
Shelton Botchamin - No thanks
150/1 for Wayne Rooney to win the Royal Rumble :D
Here's the top few 'favourites' with Paddy Power:
Brock Lesnar 7/5
Triple H 2/1
Roman Reigns 11/5
Bray Wyatt 10/1
Daniel Bryan 12/1
Rusev 14/1
The Rock 16/1
Sheamus 16/1
The Undertaker 18/1
Dean Ambrose 18/1
AJ Styles 20/1
Kevin Owens 20/1
"Who's that, King?"
"Why that's BK Stiles."
On the old board Lewis mentioned they'd probably call him Chris Cheesecake.
Is Tonga Jeff coming to the main roster any time soon/at all?
'Chris Cheesecake' was Browning. Tonga Jeff. :cool:
Grado is TNA World Champ? Haha, what a guy
Wait, never mind.read it incorrectly
I have zero recollection of Chris Cheesecake.... Tonga Jeff however.. :D
Grado being TNA champion would be better than the actual booking. After that 32 man (or 28 man 4 woman) World Cup farce ECIII got the belt back only to lose it a week later back to Fat Hardy. What a waste of time.
Coming up to my first CM Punk matches on the Network. Pretty sure I haven't seen a single one so I'm quite looking forward to it.
His mic work was meant to be good too, wasn't it?
The "pipe bomb" was pretty good at the time but not watched it since. He has some great matches though.
It's every bit as good now as it was then in my opinion. Both dropped the ball. CM Punk is a self entitled little prick while we've seen over many years how petulant the WWE can be.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with Brock in the Rumble. You can't have him booked the same way he's been booked in his matches since his comeback where he's been megadominant and I think the end of Raw was a bit of a nod to that. I think they might be going for a Wrestlemania rematch given the injuries so if Brock doesn't win he gets "screwed" by whoever comes runner-up and they have a good old fashioned number 1 contender match at the next PPV.
He'll win (Roman Reigns second) and then lose cleanly like a bitch to Reigns at WrestleMania. Let's not complicate things.
I watched the 2001 Royal rumble today. Should watch that again Sunday night instead of whatever they serve up. I'd probably still get excited for Honky Tonk Man.
Anyone but Reigns, though.
*Five. Four. Three. Two. One*
'Who's number thirty?!'
*buzzer*
'Wait a minute. It's...'
'It can't be!'
'WHEN IT COMES CRASHING DOWN AND IT HURTS INSIDE...'
Triple H will eliminate Reigns is my guess, for him to finish second. The Wyatt family will eliminate Brock.
I'm not so sure. I don't see him not retaining.
Booking him first is a way of having him lose but still look strong when he gets to the final 2-4.
A guy I work with reckons we end up with the 4 Wyatts, Brock, Reigns and Triple H. Trips eliminates Reigns then just leaves, having done what he entered to do. The Wyatts eliminate Brock together, then Bray orders the other 3 out, to win.
I'd love Bray to win it, but 4 out of the final 6 eliminating themselves would be a bit anticlimactic.
Yea, no chance of that. Besides, with them closing our RAW the way they did there's no chance any Wyatt family member is winning, if there ever was.
I have it in my mind that the Wyatt family will be in the ring at the same time as Ambrose, the Uso's and Reigns thus evening the odds then the League of Nations come out and it's a bit of a clusterfuck, multiple eliminations once Lesnar arrives, Lesnar and Reigns keep going at it stopping only to eliminate whoevers trying to eliminate the other due to both wanting to get there hands on the other.
What I want is an unpredicted win even if it's just for one night. Santino type stuff. Technically whatever happens Reigns gets a rematch, right?
I was thinking that. Every year they go on about how "Anyone can win!" but the only real, out of nowhere surprise I can ever recall is when Vince won it.
Heath Slater would be amazing.
Yea I've been saying for years that a nobody should win it. If it happened just one time you would always have that sense it could happen again. Give it to one of the usos or something.
One of the Balor/Bullet Club should come up to the main roster in the Rumble and take it, for a legitimate surprise.
Though in the real world, it's going to have Reigns going all the way to the end only to be 'screwed' by Triple H(He can then start on the copy/paste Daniel Bryan story from the end of the yes movement). Brock will fight off 3 of the Wyatts but just fall short of Bray who will do the thing where, someone gets thrown out but isn't really eliminated and then comes back in at the end to steal.
That makes most sense to me right now. Reigns winning from number 1 would knock too many people sick, I think.
Santino should have won it that year, that would have been amazing.
Slater's group ought to eliminate Big Show, or even Lesnar if they want to go full Maven.
If they have Reigns enter at 1 and dominate the whole thing, HHH will turn face just by showing up.
Again... Bray fucking Wyatt is not winning it.
@Gray obviously.
I'm curious about how the crowd will respond to Reigns. He seems to have been getting better cheers recently, but they still sound a bit high-pitched. Orlando isn't a particularly smarky place is it? If not it should be a more genuine gauge than dickhead crowds like Brooklyn/Chicago who only come to get themselves over.
Is it just me or does Jericho get more cringe every time he comes back? Just watched for the first time in a while and some of the dad jokes were almost making me flinch.
I'd love to think they were going for some kind of embarrassing dad out of touch rock star gimmick and it's all intentional.
Just saw the results for Raw this week and I'm calling it now: Wyatt's eliminate Brock at the Rumble, a handicap match at Fastlane and he'll squash Bray at Mania.
If they can get a Luke Harper vs Brock singles match out of it somewhere I'm all for it.
They can't keep throwing up shit feuds that take Lesnar out of the title picture. He's their biggest draw, and probably the biggest face in the company (as far as the adults go), so they aren't going to waste him on Bray Wyatt at THE BIGGEST WRESTLEMANIA EVER.
William Regal's initial trailers (as Steven Regal) are brilliant, I'd never seen them before.
They've booked themselves into a hole with Lesnar now where if he's not involved in the title picture there's not really much point in him. And if he is involved they've made him into such a monster you've got to come up with increasingly shit ways for him to lose.
The matches would be rubbish but one thing that would work with Lesnar vs. Wyatt if it happened is that you can see ways of having Wyatt win it but Lesnar would get nothing out of it.
Brock vs Wyatt is set for WM for sure.
Only AJ is allowed to debut at the RR from Japan.
No matter if he wins or loses Roman is gonna be champ end of WM. Be bit dumb to have Roman being 3 times champs in less than 6months if he does lose at the Rumble and then wins it back at WM.
Is it beyond Triple H to put the belt on himself? Someone heel really needs to have it so Reigns can go over at WM. Daniel Bryan story x 1000 because they actually like Roman.
Go the whole hog and stick it on Vince. :cool:
Watched the '01 Rumble yesterday as I'm in the mood. It's still the best Rumble match I've seen. Sort of wish I could stay up and watch tonight's live, even though it'll probably be pants.
Might watch another one today. The one Benoit won (despite being a bit :uhoh: now, obviously) was pretty good, wasn't it?
I liked how Terri managed to come out and then find some kind of camera blind spot and never be seen again.
I've wondered about that before. Must have turned round and walked right back up the ramp.
Maybe her cleavage hadn't had an airing for a few weeks.
I've a ten pound bet on the Royal Rumble with Mike.
If Brock wins, I win. If anyone else wins, he wins.
I assume the money will never actually get paid, but it's nice to pretend.
So if Axelmania runs wild tonight, he becomes the first man ever to win 2 Rumbles at the same time?
No he was eventually eliminated on RAW. I wish they had done that angle properly.
Absolutely convinced Triple Haitch is walking out as champion tonight.
Not even really sure why I'm looking forward to this because the last two Rumbles have been vomit-inducingly bad. I'm snowed in as well so it's not like I can pop out to get some booze in and get smashed watching it.
I'm genuinely excited for tonight. I haven't been this pumped for WWE since I was at Raw in Brooklyn. I hope I'm not let down.
I think it's time to retire when you're on RAW every week but rated less likely to win the Rumble than a Premier League player who played a game half way across the world the day before.
The show is 1am til 4am right? So should we expect the rumble around 2:30 or so? I'm interested in watching that one match but the rest of the card is appalling so I might sleep through it.
Can I join the network for a trial and watch it tonight? Staying up that long only for the stream to die is one of the most frustrating feelings.
Yeah there's a free 30 day trial for new customers.
The preshow starts at midnight.
There is not title match before hand so it'll start a little earlier than usual I imagine.
I want to watch live as there's not a chance in hell of getting through tomorrow without it spoiled. Only problem is I'm up at 5 for work. So either all nighter it, or watch it spoiled.
Was 1992 the last time the Rumble was for the title?
Indeed. And it wasn't fair to Flair.
Best Rumble ever.
It'll probably wind up being Reigns or Lesnar but I'd mark out if they gave it to R-Truth.
any linkage?
I'd love someone the likes of CM Punk(I know it wont happen) to make a surprise return for the Rumble. Pulling an all nighter :D
I really want to stay up because I fucking love the Rumble but I'm going to bed.
Godspeed, gents.
Can I post a link to a stream in here?
https://streamup.com/HennoGarvieeeeeeeeeiiiiiii
720p 50fps
:ae:
Expecting at the least, the Balor Club, maybe AJ Styles, some kind of 'Taker return. Some surprise returns would also be good.
Here we go. Please don't disappoint.
Jesus Steph is looking good
I've resubbed the network.
This better be good. Might end up watching this on catch up. Byron Saxton on the booth I take it? :moop:
Cole getting knocked out already :drool:
What a start.
Anyone got a stream? Thought I'd hae a bit of a lol at watching 'The Rumble'
Ambrose :cool:
He hasn't lost it.
Brilliant first match. Great end too, even if it was a bit predictable as soon as KO started to set it up.
What the fuck is this :D
Big E getting jiggy will haunt your nightmares forever.
Well that was hideous.
We'll see a few of them on the next botchamania.
Yep, that was botchtastic, especially the end
lol holy shit
Oh hello. :D
Attitude era pop
Already more over than Reigns. Got to love it.
No sign of 'Trips' so far tonight. He's going in, isn't he?
KO eliminating Styles is probably one of the only few scenarios that wasn't going to cause riots.
I can't think of anyone else bar maybe Ambrose getting away with it.
Reigns is coming back out after #30 to win this I feel.
Been a good Rumble tbh
Triple H winning :D What year is it?
I thought Bray had it for a while, but I genuinely cheered when Reigns was eliminated. Ambrose would've been a nice surprise, but I'll take Trips.
As soon as it came to the final 2 it was too obvious Triple H would take it.
This does mean one hell of an attempt to get Reigns over at WM though.
Called it, lads.
Fucking hell in 2016 HGH is actually champion. Mind blowing shit. You've got a chance to make a star there with Dean Ambrose and put him against his mate at Mania but they just go back to the tried and trusted formula of 50-50 booking and pushing a very select few. A decent Rumble, though, and miles better than last year's disaster.
The undercard was brilliant, so fair play to them, I'm not completely seething right now.
Vince wants Reigns as the top guy. So long as it's his company he'll get what he wants.
I don't see the crowd not shitting on that match though. When the dull, boring heel(most of the time) authority figure gets the cheers and the fighting against all odds, being screwed over face gets the boos, something is wrong.
Perhaps it'd be different if some others weren't injured, but like I say, Vince gets what he wants.
Glad I didn't bother waking up for that to be honest. Other than Truth it was boring.
The rumble match itself was great.
Shame the midcard (minus Ambrose) is shite. Now that Styles (:cool:) is WWE material he'll probably be shoved back to nXt now.
I thought the entire event was good. Was glad I stayed up for it.
Since when could people not in the match (the Wyatt tramps) eliminate people still in the match (Baroque Lesnar), and since when did he start taking things like a bitch?
They botched A.J. 'Robbie Savage' Styles entrance as well. We were looking at Roman Reigns when his name flashed up and got that mega pop.
I haven't watched the Undercard too closely, I skimmed through it but I'll probably check it out properly tonight. The Rumble itself really underwhelmed me though. There wasn't one surprise entrant. They basically thought "AJ Styles and HHH? That'll be enough...." despite the fact every person on the planet knew they'd both be there and knew HHH was going to win. Oh and Styles did the grand sum of fuck all in 40 minutes.
Cole also totally gave away when Lesnar was coming. We all knew he was in it but still his music hitting had potential for an "Oh shit...." moment but Cole totally and utterly killed it. I called Lesnar about 10 seconds before his music, based purely on the commentary, which is unforgivable. I really think they shouldn't be told what is going to happen. It works in every real sport.
I also don't get why they booked the ending as they did. It was supposed to be all about HHH Vs Reigns, but to fuck him off and have Ambrose come close AGAIN was just a bit silly, as there was no doubt in anyone's mind who was going to win out of those 2. Personally I would have liked to have seen Reigns "win" it only to have Vince announce the 31st entrant.... HHH, and then HHH robs him of the title. As it stands HHH won completely within the rules of the match, especially considering Reigns came back showing no effects of his beatdown.
I think they wanted to avoid Triple Haitch (or anybody) vs Roman Reigns at the end because it would have been clear who they were shitting on. People like Dean Ambrose for some reason, so the boo/cheer dynamic was less obvious.
I just rewatched Brock's entrance and unless I've not gone back far enough, all Cole said was "I don't see any help coming soon". Honestly, it seems to me like you're looking for reasons to not enjoy it.
I was seething when Lesnar went out.
One thing's for sure, that HHH guy has a big future ahead of him. Even Vincent Kennedy McMahon was out there to congratulate him. They must have big hopes for him in the future.
It was clear as day to me. They spent a good 5 minutes talking about "YOU HAVE TO FORM ALLIANCES" and then when there was no one left to form alliances with they delivered the whole "Doesn't look like anyone can help...." it could only have been Lesnar at that point to come out and deliver suplexes.
But Michael Cole being shit and giving everything away is nothing new. "OH MY GOD! HE HIT IT! NEW CHAMPION.... NEW CHAMPION..... NEW CHAMPION.... NO! SO CLOSE!!"
It's not exactly something to totally damn a match, but at least JR did pretty much the same thing but always left enough doubt, somehow.
There were a few good points to the match and it certainly was an improvement, but I'm not sure why it's getting the sky high praise given that. one again, the obvious person won.
The show on the whole looked decent, I will say that. but nothing in the main event really worked for me.
I seem to remember Cole gave a full bio on any entrant about 0.5 seconds after their music hit. Too obvious they knew who was coming.
The Styles moment was a good one, even if the wrong camera was on. Having never seen a Styles entrance before I had no idea who it was until I saw him.
I also don't get some of the feuds set up. Lesnar v Wyatts is a waste of Brock. He's gone from destroyer of everyone to taking on a guy who hasn't won a feud in about 3 years. It only makes sense if Brock has no contract after WM and they're finally pushing Bray all the way.
Styles/Owens is probably going to end in killing the momentum of KO and we all know who is winning out of a Y2J/Ambrose feud.
I don't think anyone knew, as he had weird music and they didn't show his name flash up. But yea, I still was excited to see him when he came out. Not sure why he didn't even get to hit one Styles Clash though.
Surely they'll have Sami Zayn involved with Owens somehow.
What is Sami Zayn about? My friend reckons he's good, but I said it's irrelevant if he has comedy jobber music and 'local talent' ring attire.
Not a clue. The only reason I knew who it was when his music hit was because I noticed how funny his music was when I had to face him 64,000 times in the WWE 2kwhatever Career Mode.
By the way, here's a better version of Style's entrance:
https://streamable.com/krv3
On reddit they reckon they hedged their bets incase noone knew who he was, which is why they didn't show the titantron.
AJ did look abit hurt when walking out, did compete night before aswell.
Thought with the final 3 Ambrose and Roman gonna gang-up on HHH with Ambrose turning heel on Roman
Maybe it's because I knew who it was, but I'm surprised they didn't get it from "I am" alone, given that was the name (and 90% of the lyrics) to his TNA Theme song. But still that's a lot better from that angle.
They seem to have been going for time in match = strength of showing this time around. Shame Styles couldn't do much but he looked a little sore on his way to the ring, to me.
The one thing I took away from Lesnar's appearance last night was that he now has a massive fucking gut. Maybe he'll be the fifth member of the Wyatt Family.
He looks like he's got a bit of a pelvic tilt (possibly because his legs are comparatively thin/weak). It's not the fabled 'Arn Anderson Belly' that Triple Haitch usually sports.
So Roman to regain the title at WM, maybe have a returning Bryan costing HHH the match and then celebrate with Roman so the fans don't boo the place down.
If Roman won after a 30min break and massage at the back, the fans def would have be screwing
Word is Joe to debut on RAW - seems to suggest on his twitter
I doubt we will ever see Bryan in a WWE ring again.
He's been cleared for a while according to the interwebz
I'm anticipating a triple threat with Lesnar, H and Reigns.
Cleared by proper doctors but not by WWE. If he was he would have been in the rumble.
Hogan did the same with Sid Vicious if I recall?
As for Styles, I thought it was deliberate to focus on Reigns facials. I was wondering who on earth it was when the crowd popped, I didn't realise he was that well liked.
I thought the Rumble was great barring the ending too.
They edited Hogan's out though, even had the announcers redo the commentary. I wonder which version is on the network.
Having the Wyatt family eliminated Brock after being eliminated was stupid, but I guess they have to protect THE BEAST and couldn't possibly have 4 guys eliminate him legitimately. It made no sense though. If Wyatt's entire aim was to eliminate Lesnar he should have fucked off after it, and if he was aiming for the title the Wyatt Family shouldn't have stopped at just Lesnar.
Then you had Miz standing on commentary for ages and entering when he wanted, begging the question "Why doesn't everyone do that?"
All it was missing was Eva Maria coming in at the end to chuck HHH out.
The Miz thing was a bit silly, back in the day we thought Edge was sneaky for lying on the floor for half an hour.
Mizney Land was the line of the night though, so we'll let him off.
Oh yea. :D I had forgotten that.
Grado isn't half getting into decent shape :o
Wwe soon
Nikki Bella's career may be over. RIP Divas Division.
Hopefully they'll use my idea to re-package Tamina as 'Big Mammy Cool'.
I just wonder what you do with Styles on the mic. The most heated I've seen him is when some indie lad he was working with decided to '3:16' him. AJ hasn't seen that promo so he went on an excellent, "Don't you DARE QUOTE MAH JAYSUS!" rant.
That's the hook I'd go with. AJ Styles. The J is for Jesus.
An 'American Jesus' gimmick has legs.
He can knock on the Wyatt's dressing room door and ask them for 'a moment of their time'.
Cody Rhodes would absolutely nail that gimmick, what a world we could have lived in.
He's just tweeted that Stardust is over, so unless he's only just heard about Bowie he should be getting a new gimmick.
Cody, Styles and Roman Reigns as a God-fearing tag team. They can feud with New Day for the rest of time.
At the end of the last man standing match I actually wanted to see the chairs spot more than the tables.
The Rumble was a bit meh for the first 4/5ths of it and the lack of somebody from years ago with recognisable music to liven up proceedings was shit but once it got to the last six or so it was really good. Reigns getting dumped out so abruptly was great, even if that left it with a final two with a mega-obvious outcome. They weren't going to have Ambrose carrying the two big belts or headlining Wrestlemania at this point. The Game hitting was brilliant though and he's still in proper nick. Him and Reigns is probably going to be a pretty wank match though.
Watched the Rumble. Probably won't watch again until Mania :D
AJ Styles was cool, even if he did nothing, and HHH eliminating Roman was as close to a legit pop as I've come from WWE in a long time, plus the R-Truth cameo & the Mizney Land quip were both pretty great from an entertainment standpoint. New Day are the latest in a line of entertaining tag teams to randomly pop up, and will no doubt follow most of them to irrelevance upon breakup since WWE doesn't give a fuck about anyone that isn't Reigns, Cena or a McMahon relation.
Everything else was pretty standard though. Braun Strowman is terrible at practically everything he's required to do (even moreso than Rowan), and chunks of the Rumble were ruined by focusing too much on Roman Reigns - I don't care about him getting beaten up for five hours by Upper Midcard 3MB, and we missed AJ's entrance & Kofi's elimination because we were looking at Roman for no good reason. The crowd booing when he came back was hilarious, as people clearly still don't like him, and yet he's going to be Champion again in two months time & it's going to be presented as if it's the greatest moment in history.
Hoping for an Ambrose/Owens/Styles/Sami ladder match for the IC title at Mania :drool:
All of you should try and watch Breaking Ground.
Three episodes in and it's very good so far.
Well he got an ACL/MCL tear in November. You're looking at anywhere from 9 months to a year for that. Add in that he's a high flyer and a top star. They wont want to risk bringing him back early in case it blows out again so really SummerSlam is the earliest you're likely to see anything of him.
I thought Lesnars deal was up after this WM but must have missed him signing a 3 year extension in the middle of last year. That kind of makes the whole feud pointless. You either have Wyatt losing his 78th consecutive feud to anyone people care about or you have Lesnar lose. In which case he's gone from monster who broke the streak and swatted people like Cena down easily, to losing to Bray Wyatt.
Brock Lesnar eliminated Goldberg to build their Wrestlemania 20 feud, and I think Kurt Angle eliminated Shawn Michaels pre-Wrestlemania 21, when the formers had already been taken out.
Lesnar looked dumb as fuck wandering around outside the ring - three other guys had re-entered the match to take him out, and then he stood around looking angry instead of returning the favour, jumping back in and trying to take Wyatt out.
Out of interest, what is Braun Strowman's background? Was he in NXT? Never heard of him until he turned up on Raw.
AJ Styles :drool:
Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns vs Dean Ambrose was announced as the main event of Fast Lane on Raw last night.
I think Brock ran in and battered Goldberg but then someone else in the match eliminated him?
Braun Strowman was with NXT but I don't think he was ever on TV apart from as a Rosebud
http://40.media.tumblr.com/f307d2ff6...1xdro1_500.jpg
I thought he was John snow's mate in game of thrones before turning up on RAW.
Bo Dallas' rap was legitimately better than Flo Rida. I hope he gets properly battered by Heath Slater at some point so they can stop pretending celebrities are tough in front of TMZ reporters.
Rock and Usos vs New Day at Wm....
Sick of the Usos vs New Day, Rock in a tag match because prob scared getting injured again
The Rock won't be wrestling.
You said he was wrestling HHH a few weeks ago. I'm starting to think you're not in the know.
The Rock's cameo was alright this time. I think Big Show embracing him counts as a face turn.
Rain makes you wet.
Do they not call it the Walls of Jericho any more? And if not, why are they calling it by the incorrect "technical" name?
Anybody caught any of 'Lucha Underground', season 2 starts tonight, I've just started season 1, it's pretty awesome.
Also they've got Rey Mysterio on board :happycry:
Is John Morrison there again?
Indeed but I'm sure the last few times I've seen it they've been calling it the Liontamer. Which is in turn just another name for some variety of Boston Crab as well but I don't know why they don't seem to call it the Walls of Jericho. Unless I'm just imagining that.
Anyway, I'm into 2007 on my Network trawl and I have another match between Jeff Hardy and Johnny Nitro. I think this will be the third I've seen and they've all been really decent matches. I assume Cena vs. Umaga is terrible and yet I'm strangely tempted.
Has Joey Mercury had his...incident yet?
That when he got biffed in the ladder match or something else?
I watched the Rumble the other night. I was quite enjoying it until the ladder/money in the bank bit. I'm going to assume he hasn't been relavant in a while?
The Liontamer is slightly different to The Walls of Jericho. I've heard them call both in recent months.
Liontamer was always my favourite, it was helped by him fighting only little fellas in WCW so he could make it look like he was about to snap them in half. Big Show and Kane don't give you that unfortunately.
I'm hearing whispers that Daniel Bryan might get released :gs:
Won't be surprised if true.
It seems to be "COMING ON MONDAY" every single week, and then never happens.
Bret Hart's got prostate cancer
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBQBeULMQpQ/
I'm surprised there wasn't a pop at Shawn Michaels in there somewhere. It covered all the other Bret Hart bases.
Ain't that a kick in the head.
It's probably just that I haven't seen him for 20 years, but fuck me, The Hitman hasn't aged well.
Strowman Vs Taker at WM..... wow... just wow.
Pube sandwich, etc.
I'm all for them pushing new talent and whatnot but fucking hell. From the little I've seen of Strowman he looks incredibly green. How the fuck is Taker going to tombstone that oaf?
It's shaping up to be a proper shit Mania.
I bet they've just built a full match/feud around Undertaker SITTING UP after being choked out.
But Strowman is a BIG GUY and in the end, isn't that all that really matters?
So it's Wyatt/Taker 2, only with a much, much shitter person wrestling, despite the guy from the first one being the one who's going to be doing all the actual feuding other than the payoff.
Boy that sounds like fun!
Nah Wyatt will be busy jobbing to Brock Lesnar after moaning about how many t-shirts he sells.
Lads, Undertaker is not going to wrestle Braun fucking Strowman at Wrestlemania.
Have they ever had a FakerTaker FakeKane tag match?
I've spent the last hour watching the build up and subsequent match between Owen and Bret Hart at Wrestlemania 10. Fuckin hell its a masterclass :drool:
I loved that whole feud, although Owen kicking Bret's leg out of his leg and then the mountain of spit on his mouth after beating him are the two unfortunate highlights.
I don't believe Strowman and The Undertaker will clash at WrestleMania. On a separate note, what has happened to Dolph Ziggler? I know he got a win on Raw but he should just fuck it all off.
He's comfortably in the Cesaro Section of wrestlers who can be relied on to have good matches and have people be into them regardless of what they're doing, but outside some brief highlights that's all they're getting.
Daniel Bryan is officially done.
Daniel Bryan announces retirement tonight.
Is this due to the arm thing or the concussion?
Either way it's shit. Though at least he got his big moment.
Please be a work.
Hopefully he's got one last bump in him so somebody can get some cheap heat. Sheamus kicking him as he goes through the curtain would do wonders for him.
About a month ago he posted on twitter asking "Can WWE clear me already?"
You wonder what's happened in that month if he felt good to go then.
'What's Baniel Dryan doing in the Impact Zone, Tazz?!'
Daniel Bryan announces retirement, Taker returns. Match set for Mania. They both retire.
Calling it right now :drool:
So Bryan apparently asked for his release recently so he could go back to the indies since WWE weren't going to clear him. Vince refused, and he's now stuck in the same spot Mysterio was, where they've added all the time he's been out injured to his contract & are going to force him to sit until it expires.
If true, this is annoying.
Taker doesn't have an opponent still, so it'd be nice. But I just don't see this being a work, unfortunately.
I do like this recent teasing of a fall out between Reigns and Ambrose though.
Bryan to return in next years Rumble. Right guys? Right?? :(
All the doctors telling Bryan he was fine, WWE keep saying no and then eventually Bryan finds out he's not so fine. Shove that in your pipe, CM Punk.
The only good thing to come out of it is that now the Royal Rumble can carry on without them having to book it around the threat of everyone booing when Bryan doesn't win.
Is that really the case? Or has he just given up on WWE ever clearing him despite him being fine?
I would tell them where to shove extending his contract too considering he's been on Total Divas and whatever else so clearly was still working.
Apparently he had another test this week, the results of which convinced him to stop.
I wonder what the odds of Vince introducing more vigorous testing are given that every wrestler ever must have a pretty lengthy concussion history. Someone like D'Von's brain is probably not far from pulp at this point.
Have they refused to clear him over concussion concerns?
My feeling when watching his speech last night was that he looked like a guy who has come to terms with not wrestling ever again so I very much doubt we'll see him show up in Ring of Honour or NJPW.
They kept offering him non-wrestling positions while not clearing him, I wonder if he'll take one up now. Have him and Regal teaching everyone in NXT, and then when they get callups give Shawn Michaels the credit.
The most distressing part about last night was that I had to sit through three hours of fucking garbage to get to the good part. I was hoping he'd go on first and then I could just switch the fucker off.
I don't have a Nielsen box, though, so Vince gets nothing from me.
I was hoping for a work, but you could see it in his eyes straight away. By the sound of it the test that he had last week told him he should stop and he's spent since then coming to terms with it.
Easily the most over person I've seen(I'm too young to have lived through Austin properly) and amazing how he's still over more than anyone on the roster now. I'm just glad he/we got WM30 out of it.
That Raw where he beats up the Wyatt Family in the cage is one of the best crowd reactions I've seen. The entire arena's with him.
Manager / Life Coach, for sure.
I'm now up to Feb 1999 in my marathon and the reactions Austin gets even just appearing on the big screen are ridiculous. Very different crowd to today but still, imagine CM Punk turning up and tea-bagging HHH assisted by the ghost of Eddie Guerrero and that's about an average Austin pop. They still clearly don't really know what they're doing, the title just changed hands basically off air in an empty arena. I also have to take back what I said about Miz being a bit brazen at the Rumble, he's just copying Vince from 99 who commentated for about half an hour after having already been in the ring.
The newest test Bryan did was one he set up to convince WWE he was ok, and it showed a lesion on his brain that explained why he was having seizures. Also, he has no way of knowing exactly how many concussions he's had over the years. If Brie Bella doesn't show up to work and Chavo Guerrero starts getting a load of texts, we'll know why.
TNA have been uploading the first episodes of The Asylum Years on YouTube for a while... I finished episode 8 last night, expecting to go straight onto episode 9 (which was uploaded the other day)
I couldn't find it, and it turns out it's been pulled because Don Harris is wearing a Nazi shirt to wrestle in.
The first few months of TNA borders from excellent to ridiculous. The last episode featured a 20 minute Triple Threat match between AJ Styles, Jerry Lynn and Low Ki, whilst also featuring a stupidly long segment between Disco Inferno, someone from Tough Enough, the Dupps and Ed Ferrera (the commentator) and Don West calling the match LIVE, with the following rules:
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dupp Cup Rules
http://thebiglead.com/2016/02/10/tit...-daniel-bryan/
Fucking hell.
Yeah did wonder what that was at the end of RAW, Vince did seem pissed.
Ah well, least the father of year can spend 90 extra days with his kid, what a dad! Make It A Win!
Going back to Taker/Strowman they are now reporting WWE scrapped it due to fan backlash. You're welcome.
Although that probably translates to "we made it up".
Less than 2 months til 'Mania and 'Taker has yet to show up and find his opponent. I expect he'll turn up next week/the week after but is it possible he just wont be there?
Hopefully. He should never have come back after the Lesnar match.
I disagree in that he shouldn't have come back. He probably should have ended it before the next WrestleMania though.
Repeat what happened at the show of shows and have Lesnar win then go after the title, every time he gets close the lights go out and he's laid out courtesy of The Undertaker. Lesnar flips, says he'll kill The Undertaker etc etc, Taker' does his usual shtick, buried alive match only Bray Wyatt should have been the one filling the whole as the new face of darkness or whatever which would have led to Lesnar v Wyatt for some silly reason.
Yea, I was going to edit that post afterwards to say "He should never have come back to Wrestlemania". Who the fuck cares about him facing Bray Wyatt now the streak is dead?
I had no problem with him continuing the Lesnar feud, but he shouldn't be at WM anymore. Making people job to him at WM just leads to a position where he has to lose there again so he can "go out on his back", which he will because he's old school.
Wyatt would have been facing Lesnar. The Undertaker would never have reappeared after being buried alive.
I can almost imagine Heyman coming out with his client Brrrrrock Lesnarrrr and telling us how the streak is dead and so now is The Undertaker.
Cue Wyatt family coming out.
Youtube suggested I watch this today, a promo and match I like a lot but had totally forgotten about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiJYv9hhLeg
"You got a cool costume, you got a cool mask, you're seven feet tall and you don't fight crime? Whatsupwitdat?!"
*squash*
The powerbomb, as well. :drool:
Bumping on his knees. Then, now, forever.
It's got to be years since the last time he took a non-knee bump now hasn't it?
ProWrestlingSheet.com is reporting that Wade Barrett has given notice to WWE. According to sources, Barrett will not be signing a new contract when it expires in a few months. It's believed that his contract expires in June and it's unknown what he has planned once he leaves the company.
Next Bond. :drool:
Assuming he's planning to go somewhere that will actually use him fair play to him. Would have been easier to just keep taking the money and jobbing on Raw every so often.
Speaking of which, Raw was booked in very peculiar fashion. I didn't hate any of it especially (though assuming the Wyatts get booked against Kane/ Show/ Ryback that's a transparent and lulzy bit of booking) it was just all done in a really odd order for the last Raw before a PPV. Almost like they got the script and show order the wrong way round.
I only read the results but something seemed off about it to me too. Maybe it was Strowman main eventing though. Don't get me wrong, it's good to actually have a match end a show. I'm shocked it wasn't the Ambrose/Reigns/Lesnar fiasco.
Do people still blame John Cena for ruining Wade Barrett? Because it's been five years and he's still pretty crap.
The last time I went to a live WWE event Barrett cut a promo about Toothpaste, so anything is an improvement on that. Taking that into account I think Don Cena probably made him.
He isn't a particularly good wrestler (nor big enough to compensate for that), his voice is stupid because he has to emm-pha-siize evv-ry ssy-lla-ble so that Americans can understand him, and he has had a load of bollocks gimmicks. It's got to be a much easier life roughing people up in straight-to-video action films.
Barrett was doing pretty well at the height of his #BNB gimmick. It was going well and was decently over, getting him near the upper mid-card. Usual murmurings of an upcoming push. But then he got injured and was out for a few months.
They tried to get some attention back by making him KOTR. But adopting the 'King' gimmick has never really worked out well for anyone.
Probably both, since he's seemingly not made any sort of impression with his five(?) Intercontinental Title runs.
With the amount of time he's injured they must be hesitant to give him any kind of push. His current 'foreign man who doesn't touch anyone' is about as good as it'll get for him.
Maybe not lately but it used to be a big deal. I would say the two latest who made it work were Regal (briefly before he got suspended) and of course Booker T. Back on the day though it really did help people, it's only recently where it's turned into something you win so you can job all the time.
Austin being the prime example.
WWE have announced that there will be a Cruiserweight Tournament over the summer, on the WWE Network, called the WWE Global Cruiserweight Series.
It's looking like there'll be 32 competitors, from across the globe, weighing under 205lbs (remember when Matt Hardy had to get down to 240 to feud with Rey Mysterio at Wrestlemania 19?) with the matches taking place at the NXT place.
Could be good if they can get some quality talent in, no names have been mentioned so far.
I remember Chris Candido going for the Cruiserweight title in WCW when he was mostly hormones.
Stone Cold's interview with Big Show was interesting, not least because of how he (successfully) justifies his position and constant face/heel turns. His impressions are pretty good as well.
I'm going to listen to that, Big Show comes across well in interviews I've seen. His Heyman impression (can't remember whether it was in the Heyman doc or Big Show's own) is hilarious.
I have had absolutely zero interest in wrestling since Y2K was a thing but I ended up listening to a podcast or two (I think it was the Paul Heyman interviews) and Stone Cold Steve Austin cutting a promo on the rats chewing out the wire of his chevy truck, his bronco and his polaris rangers was probably funnier than any stand-up comedy bit I've ever seen.
edit: found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74Y4sMUXqo
Genuinely one of the best things ever.
edit2: 'At the Rattlesnake ranch in Texas I probably got the most... athletic rats in the world'
Yeah back in the day it was a worthwhile exercise. It was it's own PPV if I'm remembering right and having it once a year gave the winner something to see them through 5/6 months.
Now it only seems to pop up on RAW when they need someone to win it for the sake of having the gimmick. It's not even with any kind of regularity either.
I don't how long it's been like it but someone has mildly defaced the Owen Hart wiki page.
http://i.imgur.com/RLdEtdY.jpg
Just got to the big reveal of Vince as the Greater Power. :drool:
One of the great moments in Raw history, that. Jim Ross' 'aww son of a bitch' reaction cracks me up every single time.
Just flicked past Smackdown and Jericho seems to be morphing into old man Ric Flair by the day.
I've become a big A.J. Styles fan since I realised that his Southern rasslin' voice reminds me of Jeff Jarrett.
'Broke six-thousand necks; never drew a dime.'
It was a shame when stopped spelling his name every time he came out.
.....
I'm looking forward to the main event and not much else. Two divas matches, Owens and Ziggler in their 78th match of the year, Bray's mates against some cobbled-together opposition and Chris Jericho's moobs vs. AJ Styles.
Meh.
.....
I usually watch these at my friend's house (he has THE NETWORK), but he's blown me out because his sisters are arguing. I said I wasn't bothered because we're adults, but no.
.....
Ziggler vs Owens is the stand out match there, I might watch that tomorrow.
I have zero interest in anything up to Styles. He should win that as Y2J is now Y2Jobber to new talent.
The Divas match is annoying as Brie will win and it'll be because her fella retired a few weeks ago.
Ziggler v Owens has been done to death and neither really wins there. A strongly booked Owens losing unluckily or shenanigans and then going on to the top tier would be a good thing.
The main event could be so, so good, but the Wyatts will pull Lesnar out before he gets to the ring, or shortly after. From there it's only going to be Reigns. Vince thinks he has the look and he's a BIG GUY and what he says goes.
Meanwhile I've just watched Umaga (UNBEATEN! Unless you remember he was Jamal...) vs. Cena at New Year's Revolution 2007. Umaga owed Cena a pint after that one.
I'm on Stone Cold vs Undertaker at Fully Loaded 99, If Austin wins then Vince has to retire so I think we know which way this will go. After that maybe some Raw or a few more early NWO Nitros, I understand it goes to shit later but at this point (early 97) it's not bad.
You been watching full Raw episodes, Disco? I've not done much of that yet.
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Reigns isn't even that big in the grand scheme of things, he just has a Look and is big/strong enough to get away with being booked like a monster.
I started at Raw episode one and I've skipped a lot of the low and mid-card matches but I've seen at least part of each one so far. When it gets into 99 then the standard improves dramatically, there's normally some shit involving Boss Man or Jeff Jarret that I don't care about though. It's interesting to see the things that never took off (or were always doomed to failure), for example they just debuted Beaver Cleavage and have been using a guy called Meat as part of PMS (Goldusts' wife and some other uncomfortably large boobed woman).
"A guy called Meat"? That's Planet Stasiak, show some damned respect.
Once I'm done with the WWE PPVs (I've said before I'm not watching every match, just the ones I fancy or that reviews have as worth watching) I'll do the same for WCW and ECW. I may eventually get round to watch more of the Raws, Nitros, etc.
Even Rollins who's just over 6ft was booked to look like a mongo half the time while he was champion.
They got some mileage out of having Vincent KENNEDY McMahon be the antagonist for a few weeks and some of the heat went when he didn't win last 'Mania but they have to be a bit concerned as to what happens if/when he beats HHH.
You need some Big Guys. It's wrestling, and it has to have a 'larger than life' aspect to it (even the smaller guys had exaggerated gimmicks), because most people don't actually want to watch half an hour of rasslin.
Bootista all over again.
I don't know if anyone is watching this but the scheduling seems odd.
Two title matches early in the card, followed by the womens title. Then came AJ/Y2J. Then for some reason a segment with Edge and Christian where nothing really happened but a feud between the New Day and L.O.N possibly starting. Then for some reason we got R-truth against Axelmania with the Social Outcasts and Golddust interfering.
:lol: sums it up nicely.
That was so fucking bad it was bordering on parody. I'm not even mad about the main event. It was clear as day how it was going down. The rest of the show just simply sucked dick. Felt like an episode of Smackdown with boring matches that had no story and an unannounced R-Truth vs Curtis Axel match was the semi main event. Sums it all up.
I refuse to believe they are even trying anymore.
I hear Don Cena wants to wrestle Taker? :baz:
The name of that award reminds me of this.
https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/pro...9849645783714f
HHH winning it is surely a lock.
That was my assumption, but Jeet's idea of it being the way to get Undertaker back in for the ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA makes a lot of sense too. Long shot, Bo Dallas gets it for finally ridding us of Flo Rida.
Lets see, they now have their own company specific hall of fame, their own award ceremony, and also whatever this other award is (some kind of lifetime achievement thing?). Could they be any further up their own arses?
The Premier League will have a hall of fame in the next couple of years I reckon.
There's already an English football one but then there was already a proper wrestling one.
The Godfather is going into the HOF.
As The Godfather? Not exactly PG.
The Goodfather. :cool:
Fst Lane not as poor as I expected. IC title was better than I expected, 6-man tag was surprisingly tolerable just for being about the right length and having a surprisingly decent promo video before it, main event was about as I expected. Some nice two-on-one spots but it was a bit shit that Reigns just no sells the chair shots and gets right up to win the match.
Baroque Les-nar ambushed Dean Ambrose in the car park before Raw, since he's well known for attacking people like a bitch. How do you book that as anything other than a squash? It's not like even a no contest is going to make the fans turn on Lesnar.
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Motherfucking Shane O Mac! I'm spazzing out like a 12 year old.
Holy shit at his reception. It's like Hogan after W18.
I was recording it, but my friend told me to stick it on. :hail:
Please be another McMahon feud.
Has Vince McMahon just turned his falling stock price into an angle? It's like 1943 in the Third Reich.
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The fuck? Shane versus Undertaker at Wrestlemania :D Hell In a cell. Jesus christ, that came out of nowhere.
Stone Cold helping him to screw Vince into retirement. :nodd:
Well, that was a surprise.
I don't know about anyone else, but surprise returns are my favourite parts of wrestling. I'll take a Shane O'Mac return over a 5 star match any day.
Absofuckinglutely. Bit annoyed that I turned on the stream with him already stood there though - surprise returns are even better when it is just music hitting out of nowhere. It always irritates me when they spoil their own surprises by pre-announcing it, or even having someone say their name a split second before the music hits.
They ruined one of the great pops doing that when Bret Hart hosted Raw.
As cool as that is it does feel like a lose/lose scenario. Taker isn't half the wrestler he once was and Shane is likely the same. Plus the better storyline comes from Shane winning but there's surely next to zero chance of that. Guess the best way would be to have the wyatt's take him out for Shane but I just don't see taker putting him over.
I assume they didn't bring Shane back just for four weeks and to have the Authority continue as they always have, but then Dolph Ziggler saved the WWE and it was all reset within about 10 minutes so who knows.
The main event is an odd one again, even if they have HHH kick the shit out of Reigns every week people aren't going to suddenly back him again. People were behind Reigns when he was more like Dean Ambrose's handsome pal who didn't say much bar OORAGH and hit people, but having him easily overcome the short odds placed in front of him just puts him back where he was when even The Rock couldn't do anything with him. Still, they aced it with the main event last time so they must have something up their sleeve. Emergency MITB or something.
Coast to Coast baby. :cool:
I've just heard.
I guess I'll be watching my first wrestling match in years.
Shane :cool:
I guess Jeet was right, that 'award' has ended up being the way for the Undertaker to be brought back.
I reckon there's a chance that if Cena is cleared before Wrestlemania, they'll do the switch. IRL, Vince couldn't turn down a chance of Cena vs Undertaker over Shane vs Undertaker, surely?
Still, we can dream of Shane jumping off this years equivalent of the Wrestlemania palm trees, can't we?
So HHH has his Authority and WWE title on the line at WM
I marked like a bitch when my brother told me to watch after work. Absolute SCENES
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Here comes the money. :drool:
Shane vs. Undertaker is going to be an absolute, no-win tragedy if it goes ahead (I've no idea why Undertaker would kayfabe agree to such a match anyway, but never mind.) That first hour or so was the best RAW has been in ages.
Ambrose and Lesnar is another where it's almost impossible for both of them to come out looking good.
I turn around for one minute and ShaneMac makes a fucking appearance.
What a don :cool:
The street fight has to just be Lesnar battering him to oblivion with Ambrose refusing to stop. Then he makes a brief late comeback before getting beat, and Lesnar gets ready to kill him but decides on a 'you're alright kid' finger gun.
Hulk Hogan to wrestle on Shane's behalf.
I saw the video earlier, and I thought "he looks old".
Then I realised 1999 was 17 years ago and it made sense.
:moop:
No one is taking Shane's place.
It's just the hair, like when Eric Bischoff stopped blacking it and immediately turned into his dad. He looks good for forty-six.
He should bring Kurt Angle back. :drool:
Taker takes a dive and becomes Corporate Mark Calloway.
I got excited at the thought of Shane O'Mac versus Undertaker in a Hell In A Cell, until my mate reminded me wrestling crap and PG these days. :thbdn:
Shane's the type of guy who would have outdone Mankind's fall, had he been allowed.
At 46? Doubt it.
I'd love to be proven wrong but it's not going to be a late 90s/early 00s Shane match.
Watched a couple of Stone Cold podcasts tonight, haven't watched any before. Watched Heyman who was pretty much what you'd expect and Big Show, who I thought came across really well in his appearance as he did in his documentary on the Network. And I thought he handled the stuff about his face/heel flip-flopping and stuff like that really well. Seems a properly good guy.
Some nifty towel tactics too. Mark Henry is another guy who comes across very well in these things.
Watching the Vince one. It's got to the end, Austin says there's a minute left and Vince says he owns the Network and is having another fifteen minutes. :D
I'm watching Hogan vs The Rock from WrestleMania X8, and lol at Jim Ross pretending that the crowd were split.
I had a good lol when I watched it last at just how one-sided the crowd were. Rock was getting booed for delivering clotheslines.
Jericho's entrance routine ruins his pop every time, the build up (countdown etc) worked the very first time but after that it should have just started with the music.
Still don't get the Undertaker's part in this thing but whatever.
Ambrose has grown on me and I'll be curious to see how HHH holds up.
I stayed up last night because The Undertaker was on. I couldn't believe what a total fucking waste of time it was.
I'd also say it was the worst Raw I've ever watched. And I genuinely mean that.
I did the same and I'd completely agree. His entrance was longer than his promo and everything just appeared to be shit.
Ambrose is about the only good thing there now. Especially with AJ being sent for a tag title shot. Really needs a Nexus-style, Balor Club invasion some time soon to pick things up. I don't think I could sit through a WM knowing Reigns is going over while the actual top babyface is ignored.
And Santino retired.
So they have a WWE Title match at "Roadblock" but not as their actual PPV? Fuck sake.
Lol at Vince and his displeasure at getting zero reaction from the crowd. You put on crap you kill the crowd.
And also lol at them using Ambrose to try and get Reigns cheered. Just because Haitch cripples his mate they think Reigns will get automatically cheered when he wins at Mania. I look forward to the inevitable boos. Even then they still won't get it through their heads nobody wants this shit.
I hear that.
What was the point of Fastlane if Ambrose gets a title shot anyway...
Y2AJ is abit shit, wanted him to face Owens. Looks like we will get a 3 way between Owens, Ziggler and Miz. League of Jobbers still messing about with the US title.
Hopefully Bulletproof will debut in the Taker match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vXf53FN5Jg
:happycry:
Father Damo!
Someone just asked me a question to do with WWE in 2003, so to refresh my memory of that time I looked at the WM card from that year. How in the fuck did Vince McMahon Vs Hulk Hogan get more match time than The Rock Vs Stone Cold, and only 2 minutes less than HBK/Y2J and 20 seconds less than Angle Vs Lesnar. Fucking hell what a mess.
Because the WWE is/was a plaything of a man who didn't get to be a pro-wrestler but did inherit a wrestling company.
I watched that match the other day. It was rubbish, but it would have all been worth it had Roddy Piper not botched taking his coat off. But he did, and it ruined the pop.
You working through anything in particular, Lewis, or do you just watch random matches as the mood takes you?
I was looking at some old 'Mania cards and remembered the Piper bit being lol.
There aren't enough Titantrons in existence to accurately display Vince's ego, that's how this shit happens.
That Mr America run was amazing though. They should bring him back if Hulk Hogan is done for good. :drool:
"Lemme tell ya sumthin, brothers, I'm not Hulk Hogan."
*repeat that exact line for fifteen minutes and call it a promo.*
They should have Big Show see out the rest of his career as The Showster.
The match at WM26 where the entire Hart family beat the shit out of a man in his late 60s got around the same time as the world title matches and twice as long as CM Punk and Rey Mysterio. I think the hall of fame Cole vs Lawler match had the same kind of thing too.
Hyabusa's passed away. Pretty shit when you consider it wasn't that long ago he was able to walk back into the ring.
Bossman is going into the HOF. :cool:
'To watch the Big Show cry about his old daddy for the very last time!'
Jericho heel turn tonight?
Bossman was ace.Quote:
With deepest regrets and tears that are soaked, I'm sorry to hear your dad finally croaked.
He lived a full life on his own terms. Soon he'll be buried and eaten by worms.
But if I had a son as stupid as you, I'd wish for cancer so I would die too.
So be brave, and get your life back on track. The old bastards dead and he ain't ever coming back
Damn, they pulled Bossman Behaving Badly from youtube. :(
Rumours of something big happening on Raw tonight. Either Sami Zayn or Cena, I reckon.
It'll be Cena. He's teasing something.
Shane coming out and saying that Raw/WWE is shite doesn't really work if he loses at WrestleMania does it?
It feels like years since the crowd chanted "Asshole" at Vince.
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I'm telling you. He's never getting anywhere with that music and those 'local talent' leggings.
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What's the basis of that feud then? Who has the lowest standards?
I hope Jericho's heel turn includes trousers.
Brock is no doubt gonna cause a Ambrose the title at Roadblock
Have a fatal 4way, bring Linda back to a MASSIVE pop next week and have a McMahon in each corner like 16 years ago!
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Maybe.
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A bit odd this is on a Saturday.
The whole thing is pretty pointless unless some shenanigans go on in the title match, because we know Dean isn't winning.
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Got to love Ambrose.
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That was actually surprisingly good, all things considered. The title match did Ambrose a lot of good I think,. While I didn't initially know why the referee was saying it wasn't a three he did sort of pull out of the third count just as his hand went down so I knew something was occurring.
I've not seen any of Zayn's NXT stuff but he's done nothing especially interesting in his couple of WWE matches so far. Enjoyed both tag matches as well.
I'm sure they did "Ambrose won the title.... Oh no he hasn't" not long ago against Rollins, so it's just lazy to do it again with the same guy so soon. No real interest in watching this as all the winners were even more obvious than usual.
Ambrose Triple H was really good I thought. Though fuck Triple H for politicking his way into the main event of the biggest ever (in attendance anyway) WM.
I dunno if he'd been told to do it (either so the commentators could harp on about it, to give him a bit more depth or because HHH wouldn't be able to keep up if he was running about like a mental) but it was just interesting to see Ambrose wrestle a different sort of match to what he usually would.
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Enzo & Cass :nod:
The Revival :sick:
The NXT takeover: Dallas card looks pretty good, Zayn vs Nakamura should be great .
This is right.
He was a massive bellend back in his hey day, but he's okay now. He'd have a much better show running if Vince didn't keep sticking his oar in(see NXT).
He's just doing the only thing he can right now to try and save the Reigns push. There are zero other heels in the top of the card now, with the only other alternative being, having someone like the Undertaker having one last run, but people will just not accept a clean Reigns win over him at WM so it'd be pointless.
The thing working against Trips is the fans/booking team. They just wont accept the Reigns push at this point as he's been booked horribly. So they respond by shitting on any Reigns action and cheering Trips. Him and Vince had a legit argument backstage about this last week, but as long as Vince still owns it, he does as he wants.
There's supposedly a 'big return' tonight, so I'll be watching live to be disappointed in real time.
It'll be Roman.
Raw is starting now for anyone who wants to watch. An hour early due to daylight savings.
'Day-light sa-vings!'
*clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*
I'm hoping they find a way to get Ambrose involved in that main event.
The Lesnar/Wyatt situation was weird at Roadblock so I expect something more there.
Wyatt is injured, his back is fucked pretty badly apparently.
It's quite lol that merely being associated with Wade Barrett relegates three good wrestlers to this.
Yeah. I did think it was a really odd match, what with him just randomly deciding it was 2v1 and then not even attempting to get involved.
At least he wont have to lose at Wrestlemania again.
I reckon Brock was late showing up, which is why they had a match first instead of this. Also explains why the beat down went on for ages.
Is it just me that thinks Ambrose is a bit of a wiener?
He annoys me. The balding wank.
He was always my least liked member of the shield back in the day but he's won me over.
I just wish he'd tone down the crazy ticks. We know the character is unhinged, we don't need reminding every 30 seconds.
Classic rasslin' promo this.
'You lot, you're just... You're rubbish.'
It's Trips' version of "Life SUCKS... and then you die".
Throwback to when Dolph Ziggler mattered.
He hasn't mattered since Kerwin White.
Sami Zayn must've come straight from walking his dog.
I fucking love Miz.
So I'm guessing Reigns will make a save in the Ziggler/HHH match and cost HHH. Dolph gets his match, Reigns is back. Everyone loses.
Dolph will presumably throw himself into the IC title match.
I'd have said he'd put himself in the Ryback/Kallisto match. KO/Zayn should be pretty good by itself.
"boo"
Can't even do the save right. Boo indeed.
That Neville/Y2J bit didn't look planned. Maybe a legit injury?
I've just had a look about to see what actually happened in the Neville match.
If he doesn't have a broken leg/ankle then I'll be amazed. That looked nasty.
God, Wrestlemania really is shaping up to be shit.
HHH Vs Reigns is the most predictable main event ever.
Shane Vs Taker... the novelty has worn off. The build up sounds shite and the match itself will be awful if we're honest with ourselves. There's also no logical outcome as a Shane win makes a mockery of all the STREAK stuff but a Taker win kills the story.
Ambrose Vs Lesnar has some potential but I'm not really interested.
Rehashing the NXT Divas stuff is stupid, we've seen it all before.
The Diva tag match with Brie and Lana shouldn't be anywhere near WM.
The Usos Vs The Dudleys? Boring.
It's just all so uninspired, really.
Last year had way less buildup and was ace, so I'm staying optimistic. They can't just have Roman beat HHH though, people were booing him throughout the brawl.
The Mrs managed to lose my debit card a while ago so I had to cancel it. I've just got a funny email from WWE saying "Your payment has failed and your subscription has been cancelled YOU WILL MISS ALL OF OUR LIVE PPV EVENTS!!
OK then. :(
I switched accounts and therefore debit cards so I've been getting the same. I'll renew it for Wrestlemania anyway, but I'm hoping in the meantime after the fifth reminder some kind of special offer email kicks in.
Could Dolph be getting a push as a heel? The Authority need someone else other than The League of Jobbers to do their dirty work/ Roman needs another feud IF they Shane wins
What a don of a heel Jericho is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUDCJutY2GY
It's not actually going to be Undertaker vs Shane O'Mac is it? Hogan interference. :drool:
I briefly entertained the idea that Dolph would win and sub himself in for or alongside Shane to a) be in a big match at WM and b) to stick it to the McMahons.
Taker just basically going "Nope" when Shane asked him why he's suddenly Vince's muscle was shit but otherwise I thought Raw was okay.
I'm hoping for all kinds of interference in that Shane match. Corporate Ministry, Mean Street Posse, Ron Simmons, Shane's kids, Steve Blackman.
Vince, Stephanie and.... well, probably not HHH as he'll be in the main event, will be there. If Shane is to have a chance (and they really have booked themselves into a corner here, yet again) somebody's going to need to come in and give him a hand.
It's in Texas, right? :drool:
Are Patterson & Briscoe dead yet?
Shane is undefeated at Wrestlemania, he needs to bring that up.
http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/...3487-wwe-s.jpg
You no longer need to see their new movie. This is clearly the best part.
Googling random wrestling clips and ended up on this one:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xjg...08-02-01_sport
He was so good on the mic. Makes his appearances these days all the more tragic. I'd still go mental if his music hit on the next show, mind.
The Rock will never leave the WWF
:uhoh:
I'm now About ten minutes into Stone Cold's podcast with Paige and considering binning it. Quite aside from the fact that her parents seem like genuinely awful people she's really quite irritating. Dunno if she's nervous or if she always babbles away and tosses her hair about all the fucking time as she is in this.
Is no one going to mention what's going on with the Undertakers hair?
The years look like they're starting to catch up with him too. I can't imagine it's going to stay as just Shane v 'Taker for long.
He's still got it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9iY5vjCDzI
The hair's putting Shawn Michaels to shame now, he's approaching the full Heyman.
He's looked like a pensioner for years, Lesnar throwing him about like a sack of potatoes seems to have accelerated the process. Which is fair enough I suppose.
Hogan's won his court case to the tune of $115m. And Sting retired the other day.
If you're filmed by friends
When you bang their bride
I gotta take the stand
I can't let it slide
He should invest it all in WWE and book himself a title run.
If the E have balls they'll let Shane use that.
They won't.
:cool:
That'll kill off Gawker and gaming news site Kotaku,
Terry Funk. :cool:
Looks like Luke Harper will be gone for some time with an injury picked up in the post-RAW Dark Match. They really need to look at this now. So many talents are getting injured in pointless matches. They need to stop over working them.
I saw something before that showed everyone who left last years Wrestlemania as champion is now out injured. Seems to be all the good ones are going down like flies, while we're subjected to Sheamus and the Social Outcasts.
Someone wrap AJ, KO and The New Day in cotton wool and bubble wrap.
He looked in pretty good shape. I bet he can still go as well.
If he can't even be arsed turning up once a week to mooch about looking EEEEVIIIIIIIIL what's the point in Undertaker? This is at least two years on the bounce he's almost entirely let other people run his Wrestlemania feud for him.
The IC title is also even more of a waste of time, which is some going.
He has at least physically appeared this time. Twice!
He looks like he should be hanging it up though.
The gone-if-he-loses stipulation makes this such a mental bit of booking part of me thinks they might actually pull the trigger, only that for him to go out on a loss, having gone from 21-0 to 22-2 would also be shit.
Ugh.
I thought that stipulation meant he's going as well (isn't he from the 'go out on top or on your back' or whatever it is school?), so they just need to make it look more credible than Shane McMahon knocking him off. Interference from Stone Cold would be my bet.
Stone Cold would be the obvious for something like that given it's all about Vince and Shane hasn't got anybody else onside. Match is even, Vince gets into the cell to try and finish Shane, glass shatters, good times.
They're not going to finish Undertaker's career against Shane, surely.
It'd be shitter if they ended his career as Vince's gimp.
'Taker wanted Cena to be his send off match and he's old school so Cena would be winning it.
No idea which way they'll go with it now. But they really need to stop referring to him as Vinces' bitch without explaining anything around it.
If Vince saying he's done if he loses is the entire thing then fuck that.
They could just destroy kayfabe and go on about how Mark's loyalty to Vince and the WWE is how he's still here. And then something, something Corporate Ministry!
He should be attached to this...
http://i.imgur.com/BJcMclw.png
..after losing the match and be hoisted into the rafters and never seen again.
Cena will screw him over and they'll have a feud that ends at some other Pay Per View. He's not "done" if he loses he just can't do WM again, which he wouldn't anyway as this one is in Texas.
Think Taker was holding out for Sting as his last match. Shane will win. Taker will have a match at Summerslam etc and retire at SS.
I have zero interest in Sting Vs Taker, but if Sting has one more match in him, good for him.
I do think Taker will lose his final match, and I think he has to lose to Shane... but I can't see this being his last match. I also can't see him going out having lost 2 high profile matches in a row, so he's got to have one final feud I think. Beat someone a time or 2 and then lose to them at Survivor Series and that's it. Go out where it all started.
Sting retired days ago.
He's said that he's not officially retired yet, but you can't imagine him coming back.
I don't like Vince saying that if Undertaker loses he's done, as if he does lose Vince no longer has any power anyway. They should all just stay home and make a promise Shane will jump off the big screen or something.
Shane should be in charge of something, he should have been given his own show and roster years ago.
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The time for that has passed, they should have used the heel turn to break the streak.
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It was a bit pointless though, it's not like Les.nar being an unstoppable badass was in any doubt before he beat him. I'm not saying he's bad but he didn't need the push, his character was already super over.
Yea, I said for years the Cena heel turn should have ended the streak. It would have been incredible. Lesnar really didn't need it.
Do we know the card order? Is Taker the main event?
Look at 'Jeet thinking Roman Reigns isn't main eventing. He's facing HHH you know.
Triple H will probably open to get things off to a great start, the selfless motherfucker.
He'll have to go on last to allow for his batshit crazy Terminator or whatever sponsored film entrance.
Because the fans love that shit.
Featuring a holographic Lemmy.
It'll kick off with his entrance and by the time he gets to the ring everyone else will have wrestled. Except maybe Taker whose entrance should probably start about now. Thank fuck Orton is injured.