Football Manager 2018

Let's have a new thread.

Their offer is about to run out so here's a reminder:

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Anyone who pre-purchases Football Manager 2018 (for Windows, macOS or Linux) through a SEGA approved digital retailer will be able to start pre-season at least two weeks prior to the official street date through a fully-playable Beta version. Single player careers started in the Beta can be also continued in the full game.

In addition, fans who pre-purchase Football Manager 2018 before Monday, October 9th and have Football Manager 2017 in their Steam Library will receive a 'Contract Extension Bonus' discount of 25% off their purchase via Steam or the SEGA Store.

http://www.footballmanager.com/games...l-manager-2018

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Here's that terrible promotion video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_1gPUeY0EY

Screenshots from the video here: http://www.fmscout.com/a-football-ma...reenshots.html

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Update: new video on the 'Dynamics' feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVvc35M4N8

I think the dynamics has me finally done with it, or at least skipping launch until I see how it pans out.

Not that it's a bad idea or wouldn't be a good addition in theory, but it'll be their completely over the top implementation that will ruin it.

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Originally Posted by Giggles

I think the dynamics has me finally done with it, or at least skipping launch until I see how it pans out.

Not that it's a bad idea or wouldn't be a good addition in theory, but it'll be their completely over the top implementation that will ruin it.

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Yup - It's just one of those features, like this years Social Media, that I'll completely ignore.

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Originally Posted by John Arne

Yup - It's just one of those features, like this years Social Media, that I'll completely ignore.

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Will it be something that can be ignored like social media though? Surely you can't just ignore the whole squad unhappy because gang A doesn't like gang B.

I was happily ignoring the social media aspect until I clocked some knob claiming a player definitely had 200 potential, the sort of self referential shittery that I bet Miles wanked himself stupid over.

This game needs competition.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

This game needs competition.

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Right? I was saying that in the other thread the other day.

It's not possible though. That's why we'll see these token features added year on year, but none of the actual problems fixed.

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Originally Posted by Giggles

It's not possible though. That's why we'll see these token features added year on year, but none of the actual problems fixed.

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Why is it not possible? Just hire the scouts that FM uses (maybe by paying them even), or get different ones

Right? Just build a worldwide scouting network of thousands. How difficult or expensive could that be?

Who cares about a worldwide scouting network if the gameplay's shite?

It’s not though.

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Originally Posted by John

Right? Just build a worldwide scouting network of thousands. How difficult or expensive could that be?

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Exactly! I'm glad you understand.

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Originally Posted by Adamski

It’s not though.

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The deal breakers for me were always shitty, unrealistic squad building by AI and awful newgen stuff. It's like one of those models imitating the gait of a dinosaur that starts off fine, gets a little wobbly eventually, and then spazzes out and falls down

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Originally Posted by Adamski

It’s not though.

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It's getting there.

I think the peak edition was probably 2012. Detailed enough that you could go ful on spreadsheet, but accessible enough for those that wanted to download a plug and play tactic and just have fun.

I don't think I've got the energy or time for it going forward. I certainly no longer have the time I had at uni where I could sink in 8 hours a day for 3/4 days a week.

The fact that they're leading a list of new features with words like 'Dynamics' (regardless of what it is) and the increased importance of sports scientists and data analysts... yeah.

If someone made a game with a decent engine, no 3D engine, no graphics and no licences but decent, slick gameplay they would surely at least cause a dent. The basic gameplay is still good in FM but there's just far too much time-consuming bollocks.

Even watching matches in commentary only, a season takes me in excess of 12 hours to do and the game's not good enough any more to warrant that amount of time.

If everyone else starts hating it will you all start loving it again?

Bunch of hipsters.

I still get more than enough value out of it, so I can't categorically state "that's the last version I buy" but it's pretty clear that they've become lazy and just implement silly new features while glaring issues (match engine etc) still prevail.

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Originally Posted by ScousePig

If everyone else starts hating it will you all start loving it again?

Bunch of hipsters.

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I'll love it when the developers start to love it again.

To be fair to them on the match engine side, I'm not sure how much better it could actually be.

If you look at a game like FIFA, whose one main job is to deliver a match engine and it can't really manage that in any realistic fashion, then I'm not sure what chance FM has.

Where they've got lazy for me is around not changing the interface (which they used to do every few years) and not really bothering to update player stats enough from version to version, choosing instead to put in a load of random player interaction based shit.

The goalkeepers being unable to come out for crosses has been a thing for many many years. The inordinate amount of woodwork hits as well. It feels to me that it has gone backwards the last few versions honestly.

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Originally Posted by John

Right? Just build a worldwide scouting network of thousands. How difficult or expensive could that be?

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The FM scouts are voluntary so the money isn't an issue, it then comes down to motivation. The FM scouts have the 'contributing to a game they love' factor, but I don't think it'd be hard to persuade people just because there's so many diehard fans around who love football and their team (and more and more football nerds).

Its gonna be great and I'll sink another 800+ hours into it. Cheer up fuckos.

Yeah, I can't wait!

I'm looking forward to it, too. First time in my lifetime Brighton have started in the top tier. :drool:

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Originally Posted by Dark Soldier

Its gonna be great and I'll sink another 800+ hours into it. Cheer up fuckos.

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Lost that job already?

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Originally Posted by Byron

I think the peak edition was probably 2012. Detailed enough that you could go ful on spreadsheet, but accessible enough for those that wanted to download a plug and play tactic and just have fun.

I don't think I've got the energy or time for it going forward. I certainly no longer have the time I had at uni where I could sink in 8 hours a day for 3/4 days a week.

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The peak was 01/02.

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Originally Posted by Boydy

The peak was 01/02.

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Nah, go back and there's very little to it nowadays. There's more detail in the current mobile versions.

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

To be fair to them on the match engine side, I'm not sure how much better it could actually be.

If you look at a game like FIFA, whose one main job is to deliver a match engine and it can't really manage that in any realistic fashion, then I'm not sure what chance FM has.

Where they've got lazy for me is around not changing the interface (which they used to do every few years) and not really bothering to update player stats enough from version to version, choosing instead to put in a load of random player interaction based shit.

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FIFA's got the problem that you're actually playing as the players and a 90 minute match has to be condensed into like 10, so there's inherently going to be problems with the way matches are played. FM doesn't have that issue so they have a much wider scope for realism

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Originally Posted by Boydy

Lost that job already?

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Smashing the absolute cunt out the job mate. There's still enough hours in the day to fall down the sinkhole.

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Originally Posted by mokbull

FIFA's got the problem that you're actually playing as the players and a 90 minute match has to be condensed into like 10, so there's inherently going to be problems with the way matches are played. FM doesn't have that issue so they have a much wider scope for realism

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If the extent of FIFA's problems were limited to trying to condense a full 90 minutes into 10 I'd agree, but (taking the latest version as an example) they can't even get passing balanced properly.

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Originally Posted by Dark Soldier

Smashing the absolute cunt out the job mate. There's still enough hours in the day to fall down the sinkhole.

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Good to hear. :thbup:

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Originally Posted by Boydy

The peak was 01/02.

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*97/98.

I think that was actually the best game of all time.

I haven’t played FM in years (apart a quick mobile stint last year), but I think 07 was my favourite. Also I think the 03/04 was pretty good. I only got into 01/02 later on so it was never the pinnacle for me.

I’m always short on time these days so I think the mobile version will be where its at for me if I get back into FM again at some point.

New video on the 'Dynamics' feature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmVvc35M4N8

Like Giggles says, it feels like it could become too big a part of the game. But it could be good seeing the impact after selling a moaning 'highly influential player', for example.

FM Classic has become far too bloated. I only play Touch now. It's more what I want out of FM. I think I got through three seasons of Classic in '17 before defaulting back to Touch.

You can replicate Classic just by setting your assistant up, pretty much. At least that's how it felt in 2013 which is the last version I bought. Loading seemed a little longer in Classic.

I still maintain that if they made a classic database and sold it as an add-on they would make a fortune. Something that lets you start in 1990, 1994, 2000, I don't know. Obviously we would all know who would turn out good and who wouldn't, but I think it would still be quite fun.

I just watched the DYNAMICS video and noticed this...

https://gyazo.com/d45a2eeb99ab342beba61f77df581c7a.png

This isn't just a sample to show the possibilities, it was grabbed from a save game used in the video...

EDIT: Hard to read...

+ You've spent a good period of time at the club
+ You have a good reputation when compared to the players

- You've only been at the club for a short period of time
- You have a number of players that don't get on well with you

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

To be fair to them on the match engine side, I'm not sure how much better it could actually be.

If you look at a game like FIFA, whose one main job is to deliver a match engine and it can't really manage that in any realistic fashion, then I'm not sure what chance FM has.

Where they've got lazy for me is around not changing the interface (which they used to do every few years) and not really bothering to update player stats enough from version to version, choosing instead to put in a load of random player interaction based shit.

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I read some interview with a lead FIFA guy recently and part of what they said was their main challenge is actually to make an engine that seems realistic, but isn't - because it would be boring as fuck to play, and most of the time you want the games to feel sort of like a full 90 minute game compressed into 10 or 15 minutes or so.

Basically - it's a fucking video game and it should be fun to play, above all.

FM could take a page out of that book, IMO.


Disclaimer: I don't really play FIFA so I've no idea if they actually achieve this in the game or not, but whenever I do play I find it fairly fun anyway.


Though as DS says, fuck it FM is always good for a save game or two, and not too pricey for it. Time-wise, it does sometimes feel a bit "wasteful" and I wish the seasons could go quicker, but at the same time it's a great game for just sort of casually playing while watching something on the TV or some football or something.

I'd love it if it could be cloud-based so you could play both from your PC and your phone (say on the way to work) on the same save, though.

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Originally Posted by Mazuuurk

I read some interview with a lead FIFA guy recently and part of what they said was their main challenge is actually to make an engine that seems realistic, but isn't - because it would be boring as fuck to play, and most of the time you want the games to feel sort of like a full 90 minute game compressed into 10 or 15 minutes or so.

Basically - it's a fucking video game and it should be fun to play, above all.

FM could take a page out of that book, IMO.


Disclaimer: I don't really play FIFA so I've no idea if they actually achieve this in the game or not, but whenever I do play I find it fairly fun anyway.


Though as DS says, fuck it FM is always good for a save game or two, and not too pricey for it. Time-wise, it does sometimes feel a bit "wasteful" and I wish the seasons could go quicker, but at the same time it's a great game for just sort of casually playing while watching something on the TV or some football or something.

I'd love it if it could be cloud-based so you could play both from your PC and your phone (say on the way to work) on the same save, though.

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You can do that with screen sharing. Friend of mine played FM on his home computer from his hotel in New York. He used an iPad though.

You can play FM Touch cross device.

What is actually the difference with FM touch?

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Originally Posted by Mazuuurk

What is actually the difference with FM touch?

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It's a stripped back version. Plays a bit like the old CM's in that you can fly through seasons but it never really feels like you're doing anything.

I also found it easier than the normal version.

See that's a bit of the problem for me with FM in the last few years - They have added too much fluff that doesn't feel important, but has too much effect on the game - completely agree with @Giggles that this new Dynamics feature will end up being a pain in the arse having to babysit everyone after what will inevitably turn out to be this one select pattern.

Like Team talks, there only ever feels like there are 2 viable options in them (whatever they are again).


But at the same time, I never wanted to play these "dumbed down" versions as the immersion they give just quite isn't the same.

I wish they could just make a quicker more streamlined game where you still sort of got some of the "around & off the pitch" aspects of Club management.

You mean you don't enjoy being asked who you think deserves to win the Ballon D'Or when you're managing Goatherders FC?

If they just removed Press Conferences, I'd pay whatever they want.

Just bought it anyway, when the beta hits I'll report back and fire pure cynicism into your faces.

New video - Scouting....

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfaNEjK9hc[/img]

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Originally Posted by John Arne

New video - Scouting....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDfaNEjK9hc

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

If someone made a game with a decent engine, no 3D engine, no graphics and no licences but decent, slick gameplay they would surely at least cause a dent. The basic gameplay is still good in FM but there's just far too much time-consuming bollocks.

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They could call it The Complete Football Game.

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Originally Posted by niko_cee

They could call it The Complete Football Game.

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https://media.tenor.com/images/adcf1...bb15/tenor.gif

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Originally Posted by niko_cee

They could call it The Complete Football Game.

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Maybe he could stealth it out as a Rasternauts sequel.

How is the mobile version? Less bloat?

These videos are crap.

Tactics...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeXV0MieLmY

"The tactics screen is now less cluttered..."

Er...

FM17

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FM18

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What’s with all that green space? :sick:

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Originally Posted by Baz

What’s with all that green space? :sick:

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I think that's the "less cluttered" bit they talk about.

They've just kinda crushed it.

The design experts can put me right here, but surely anything where you have a fairly deep scroll bar and then masses of empty space beneath it is a bit of a failure.

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Originally Posted by Shindig

They've just kinda crushed it.

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As in made smaller or nailed it?

The former. Although Miles probably thinks it's the latter.

Miles fascinates me. He is very much in the tradition of Brent and Partridge and Mainwaring.

I reckon my 30 second paint edit is better already...

https://imgur.com/Yz6wm9e.jpg

That looks to me like someone has captured it in the wrong resolution which is probably forcing those boxes askew. I doubt that tactics part of the page is supposed to scroll. Why would there be a thin black bar one one side and a large black one on the other?

edit: Just watched the video, Yeah their shitty green screen solution hasn't given them a 16:9 screen so they've captured it in a weird resolution. Just film it in the office with a TV behind you lads.

So, the preview videos ended yesterday... with a suspicious absence of a decent look at the ME. We saw a little bit of the graphical side on the Match Day video, but nothing in detail.

So, either they are hiding the fact that nothing has changed in that respect, or going for the BIG SURPRISE improvement. I'm guessing the former.

Or they're still building it.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

Or they're still building it.

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Quite possible.... if they are, they are leaving it bloody late!

As a commentary only player, I don't really notice any issues with the ME, anyway.

They’ve said the beta is out Friday or before, so Thursday evening I’d guess.
I’m off work this week though so the sooner the better for me. I’ve been itching to play a new save but have put it off ready for the new game.

I have some 2 year old quite sluggish MacBook, will this run smoothly on that? Will there be a big difference from FM17, because that just about made this laptop fucking explode, for no apparent real reason.

I'm not even going to bother with this until I have new machinery. You need a really, really slick computer to do anything worthwhile with FM.

Which is fucking shit, I mean it's a text-based game with "3D graphics" that looks about as advanced as a Super Nintendo might have rendered them.

Yet I do agree, because last year around it was a bit of a painful experience to play as I was doing more waiting than playing, it felt like.

My new one should handle it ok but I don't know if I can be arsed with it any more. Be the first capable one for it in 7 or 8 years.

You can turn most of the graphical shit off, after that it just relies on processing power which is to be expected.

Yup, 2D match engine still pisses all over 3D

Does the match engine have any bearing on things at all? I always thought it was just some pre programmed highlights to give it more realism, but you never actually seen anyone playing well or not from it and were better off just Instant Resulting everything.

I really don't think I can be arsed with a new FM. I think I'll just keep plugging away at my Newcastle save in FM15. I basically win everything all the time but I'm more just doing it to satisfying a very minor Football Manager itch. I don't know that I care enough to get annoyed with the flaws of a new one that they can't be arsed to fix all over again.

Also why don't we just have one thread called 'Football Manager' rather than having unnecessary new ones for each new version?

Other than more freds.

Hard to tell (and SI are never going to confirm) because the simulation is different every time, although it would be mental to essentially double their work and have the engine work differently.

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I really don't think I can be arsed with a new FM. I think I'll just keep plugging away at my Newcastle save in FM15. I basically win everything all the time but I'm more just doing it to satisfying a very minor Football Manager itch. I don't know that I care enough to get annoyed with the flaws of a new one that they can't be arsed to fix all over again.

Also why don't we just have one thread called 'Football Manager' rather than having unnecessary new ones for each new version?

Other than more freds.

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Needs to go in Gamezine really too.

It's good to have a new thread for each version as it's easier to find the epic saves etc.

And doesn't need to go in Gamezine as no-one ever visits there.

I'm with Jimmy. New machine before I even think of buying it. Not that I get the time these days.

https://i.imgur.com/jOQuEHf.png


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On the subject of not buying the new one, did one of my "who's managing who now?" reviews of my current save. It's 2037 and the best one currently is Ryan Gauld being the Barcelona manager.

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

And doesn't need to go in Gamezine as no-one ever visits there.

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We should probably just bring Gamezine back into the main forum.

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Originally Posted by Boydy

We should probably just bring Gamezine back into the main forum.

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Yeah. If that happened people might get annoyed at first when individual games got their own threads but it could result in certain movies and tv shows getting their own threads, alongside the “general” ones.

Moar freds :arry:

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Originally Posted by Baz

Yeah. If that happened people might get annoyed at first when individual games got their own threads but it could result in certain movies and tv shows getting their own threads, alongside the “general” ones.

Moar freds :arry:

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Yeah, I think that'd be fine. If a lot of people play something regularly, it'll stay near the top. If not, it'll just drop down/off the page like anything else.

At least the place would look a bit more busy.

Honestly forgot we had a Gamezine section, don't think i've been in there a single time but if it was on the main forum i might peruse

https://i.imgur.com/EkX3Wx4.png

It’s out!

:nodd: Gonna start my Brighton save tonight. Who are you going with, @Mike?

Some info re. bugs etc. here: https://community.sigames.com/topic/...a-build-notes/

The game or the demo?

The beta, it’s basiclly the full game but gets updated for the ‘full release’.

I always start as Liverpool for my first save.

Starting with United, as I do every beta save. Gonna load it up in a sec. Bye bye life.

The photo import for your manager goes a bit mad very quickly

https://i.imgur.com/rZFuJ4h.png

Mines like a photo. Not sure who the photo is or why they're wearing gloves though.
https://i.imgur.com/7s5hJOJ.png


And to save me faffing to find it. Anyone found how to stop that shit song playing when you start it?

https://i.gyazo.com/37ec0d4b8a239619...2022bf3290.png

lets go gentleman

Move Gamezine into the main forum? Why not just have one giant thread for everything while we're at it?

https://i.imgur.com/7J3mWpN.png

Vince McMahon's finally getting into football, within five years it'll be renamed the XFL.

I take it your first was some unholy combination of D'Lo and Pennywise, Wullie?

Believe it or not it was meant to be Busta Rhymes, the game doing a better job of making him look freaky than Hype Williams ever has.

I saw that Vinny Mac and before I saw what you wrote I thought to myself 'Looks like Vince' :D

The jacket sold me on it.

A few hours into the game and I have somehow managed to set Liverpool up perfectly to play like they do in real life.
https://i.imgur.com/XQLXIsL.png

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Originally Posted by Mike

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It’s out!

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How is it @Mike?

Attack well, defend like shit and Lovren was crap? Nailed the realism this year then.

It genuinely feels like an improvement. I'm well in for this, match engine feels improved.

Wait until they break it on the first patch.

Phew.

Go to wherever you've installed steam then... 'steamapps\common\Football Manager 2018\data\game\music' and delete background. No more shit song.

They put music in it? :cab:

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It genuinely feels like an improvement. I'm well in for this, match engine feels improved.

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Sold.

Now for the problem of having a motherfucking computer to run this shit.

Just sorting my scouts out and trying to find a Centre Back and a Ball Winning Midfielder for Liverpool.

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

They put music in it? :cab:

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Just when you start it up, while you loo at the SIGames logo and the kick it out one.

To be honest I'd be more likely to buy if it had a decent football soundtrack playing in the menus. World in Motion, Three Lions, some of those Rangers ditties slating the Pope, and of course the 2016 Crystal Palace FA Cup final song by Doc Brown which is the best thing ever written.

and this bad boy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9UHcRrCWlI

And this bad boy

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rebR5V4G5GQ

Just this on a loop for me, I have it constantly playing on my TV like rappers on MTV Cribs would do with Scarface

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n56gOR9RQ0E

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It genuinely feels like an improvement. I'm well in for this, match engine feels improved.

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What has improved about it?

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What has improved about it?

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Scouting, ME feels better, more information (which could be a downside for some). Tactics don't take 18 months to gel anymore, match day experience is better.

Major downside is traditional 2D is no more, its that shitty 2D classic or nothing.

It's never been a more/less information problem, it's all about how that information is presented and how much of a chore it is looking at it. To be honest if they ignored everything else for next year's version and invested all their time and talents into a better front end, they'd be doing alright.

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It's never been a more/less information problem, it's all about how that information is presented and how much of a chore it is looking at it. To be honest if they ignored everything else for next year's version and invested all their time and talents into a better front end, they'd be doing alright.

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It is improved, scouting feels more realistic but it feels a bit overwhelming at first as (well, with United and their 10000 scouts) you're being swamped with reports.

Fyi, music can be turned off in preferences.

Not been a bad pre-season
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One of the bugs they're hopefully going to iron out, when you upload a photo and then scroll through the facial hair choices long enough:

https://i.imgur.com/IaIVHrD.jpg

You know what, I hope they leave that one in.

'The Iain Dowie'.

I don't see a bug? Looks just like you.

Glad Ant and Dec never got round to doing a Cup Final song.

https://i.imgur.com/J9j7Fxk.png

Happy with my first window. Would rather have sold Moreno but nobody would meet my asking price so a year out on loan will do.

Tierney is great. I sold some gumph and got Casemiro and Gelson Martins as my main signings, along with Rugani.

Have they fixed press conferences yet? I send my assistant to all of them at the moment. They’re fucking ridiculous. Half the time the answer you’d give isn’t there and you end up pissing your squad off.

‘So, manager of (3 time champions league winning) Southend, how do you fancy your chances at Burnley?

It’s going to be tough, I’m scared
I want my mum
I hope we don’t get fisted
We’re going to get fisted

“Manager in edgy press conference”

Fuck off.

Anyone find the commentary only way too slow... like 5 or 6 minutes per match?

Also, anyone not so keen on the during-match tactics screen? The choice of 'list' or 'pitch' - I want to be able to see the condition of the players on the pitch screen - instead there is only a tiny little that you are supposed to interpret... Not a fan, though I'm sure ill eventually get used to it.

Cracked it lads.
https://i.imgur.com/qNNOiDH.png

The dynamics works perfectly. The squad was fragmented into little cliques, but all you have to do is refuse to guarantee starts for a backup player so everybody hates you together, then win the next game so they're then all magical super happy fun pals

https://i.imgur.com/wq1jICi.png

During the demo video, they had a feature on the tactics screen, where a yellow line would link players - I haven't seen that once yet - do my players just not get on?

Were you accidentally watching someone play FIFA Ultimate Team?

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During the demo video, they had a feature on the tactics screen, where a yellow line would link players - I haven't seen that once yet - do my players just not get on?

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I've had it. If you pair up a full back and winger who haven't played before it happens.

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Were you accidentally watching someone play FIFA Ultimate Team?

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I think there was footage of an actual match in the video so definitely not FIFA.

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I've had it. If you pair up a full back and winger who haven't played before it happens.

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Cool - I'll try again.

I think I hate this game. Really enjoyed FM17, but this feels slow, looks ugly, changes for changes sake (I like vertical pitch tactics screen, not horizontal) - also I like the ability to see the player stats alongside the pitch layout, not having to choose either list or pitch... I want both... I think I'm just become a miserable old cunt.

Yes, yes you have. If barely anything had hanged from FM17 it'd swing the other way with 'what was the point of releasing an identical game' complaints. Its the same stuff heard around the net come Beta release.

Have they actually made any effort to fix what was actually broken or just ignored them for yet another year?

There has been a definite improvement in the match engine. Players are way more willing to put in a tackle, keepers actually attempt to make saves and tactics seem more reactive when you change things mid-match. And there's nothing completely game breaking in the beta like there usually is which is a bonus.

Went in for three potential players as my big signings. Griezmann wanted 475k a week, fuck off mate. Lewandowski wanted 375k a week, fuck off mate. Dybala wanted 350k a week, fuck off mate.

Settled on Driussi from Zenit, Dier and Grimaldo, all at the cost of one of those.

Do Hamburg still want £234m for eighteen year old fullbacks?

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That's one of the main things I was wondering was hopefully fixed.

Its not fixed as it didn't need fixing, every year we get this but why would a club be willing to chuck your their potential world class youngster for £5mil plus add-ons? They're not asking that price, they're just setting so high as to say 'we ain't fucking selling unless you're mental, mate'.

You're, say, United. You get a regen come through, five star potential, coaches going mental for him, very good stats at 16. Chelsea offer you £4mil and a few instalments, would you let him go?

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Its not fixed as it didn't need fixing, every year we get this but why would a club be willing to chuck your their potential world class youngster for £5mil plus add-ons? They're not asking that price, they're just setting so high as to say 'we ain't fucking selling unless you're mental, mate'.

You're, say, United. You get a regen come through, five star potential, coaches going mental for him, very good stats at 16. Chelsea offer you £4mil and a few instalments, would you let him go?

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Then code in a 'we're not selling' instead of stupid figures.

Are you on the payroll now or something?

Yes sure am mate, I bend over each week lubed up for Miles :happycry:

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I was going to ask that too and deleted it because I'm trying not to be too much of a bollix :D

Anyone played long enough to get a player come out yet?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41796686

:cab: Bit of a strange one that.

It would be an Arsenal player.

I'd love to meet some of the 8% of fans who would stop watching their team.

Apparently it comes with a small boost to finances too.

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Nearly one in ten would stop watching the team they've supported all their life (in most cases) if one player came out? That seems unlikely, surely.

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This is the most Miles Jacobson quote of all time.

What a load of tosh.

Football Manager 2019 will have a key feature where everybody passes to each other at least once.

Does the player that comes out wear pink socks too?

What was Football Manager Touch like last year?

Wouldn't mind getting this this year but now sure my laptop can handle the full version or if I really want the full version.

Touch '17 was/is excellent. Not had a single issue with it and the cloud saving is vvv simple and effective if you're swapping machines/devices.

I just found it very detached, like nothing you were doing was making any difference. Was very 'just keep clicking continue' like older versions of the full game.

Patch out. Seems more stable and less laggy, can now zoom in on 2D view, and a load of other improvements.

Another small patch came out an hour ago

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Change list includes (but is not limited to) the following:

Beta Changelist 18.0.3

Stability and Tech

- Further stability fixes
- Improvements to slowdown and lag found in game
- In-match sounds now play across entire match and in commentary only mode
- Removal of incorrect Hz setting within display preferences

Graphics and UI

- Fixes to Retina Mac
- Fix to white screen appearing on launch
- Processing panel now appears with correct information
- Fixtures on the processing panel no longer overlapping other text
- Pitch image used in news and inbox items now appearing correctly
- Social feed and inbox items appearing correctly when scrolling
- Added condition & match sharpness numerical values to match tactics screen

Match

- Improved Set Piece default settings, AI and Positioning
- Ball Visibility / Change Ball Option now available
- Director Camera Tweaks
- Improvements to match display in low settings
- Fixed players figures appearing all in black incorrectly
- Fixed score divergence in hotseat matches
- Tweaked Additional Time Level
- Goalkeepers not wearing outfield kits
- Show/disable condition option now working in matches
- Red chequered flags no longer appearing

Gameplay

- Scouting reports no longer showing minus days
- Cancel scouting assignment working correctly when used on scouted player

I like what they've done with 18 but it runs like absolute arse on my system due to no software mode, and me having Intel HD grapfics, so don't know if I'll bother this year. Not touched it in five days and I'm normally way down the rabbit hole by now.

I'm loving it this year. Runs okish on my laptop but its much better on my PC, hopefully after full release it gets better too.

I had a tough start with Liverpool but have them ticking over nicely now. Up to 5th, into the semi of the League Cup and we made it through the CL group stage. Barcelona are sniffing around little Phil though. :(

Patch has made this have a lot less lag, bar substitutions which is a known issue.

Also:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share...3-4-3-3-a.html

The 433 is utterly fucking brutal. You give up a ton of possession but its counter attacking brilliance. 7-0 v Dortmund, 8-1 away at Watford, 6-1 away at Roma.

If I buy a CD key from one of these random sites like instant gaming, can I play the Beta and all that?

Not if its an unaffiliated site.

You do with this, however :

https://2game.com/football-manager-2018

Ta, that's the one I used.

On the train, lads :cool:


Thinking Milan maybe, this year. Or another damn save with Arsenal.

Lol the first thing that happens in this arsenal game of mine is that the damn 2022 World Cup is moved to Australia "due to Club protests about scheduling"

:cab:

I've employed an attacking 4-3-3 as Cov and it seemed to work wonders. Was flirting with the playoffs until around December when it clicked and we couldn't be stopped and ended up walking League 2 by a mile. I don't know if it's the system I use of the fact that it's League 2, but I started my League 1 campaign by battering Plymouth 7-1 at home so the jury's still out.

Haven't got to grips with the scouting system yet, previously you'd ask for a report and they'd come back a few days later whereas now it goes into a whole scouting hub. What do the analysts do this time round?

Only a few games in so far, but from what I've seen having at least a few people up front and chucking the ball forward seems like the way to go here, even at a high level.

I made a possession based 2-3-2-1-2 (you know with wingbacks and 2 strikers) with Arsenal, and it worked OK but as soon as I start to play more direct I score more goals.

Starting to finally get in to this. Commentary only is still way too slow - however, it is a problem that SI are aware of. My biggest gripe is still that utterly disgusting UI - notably the awful half time tactics screen (horizontal pitch, ugly, ugly bright green background).

The two main graphical things that I didn't like where the pitch markings on news items like team of the week would stretch outside the pitch image itself, and for night games the pitch would be brighter than the sun. The most recent update fixed the former and I haven't noticed the latter in a while, but my title screen Vinnie Mac now looks like a pale ghost instead of the bronzed Adonis he was.

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Ah really, never noticed! I suppose I only did like 2 games on last version anyway.

Is there some specific reason they are doing that or is it just kind of a "political" jibe from SI?

I think it's so they don't have to arse about changing the schedule for that season.

They're big on consistency so anything that fucks with the normal schedule/calendar is probably going to get changed.

Oh shit, it's doing that weird fucking Penalty shootout system ABBA or what they call it.

Waterloo.

Sung by Pierce Brosnan.

https://twitter.com/iainmacintosh/st...38779086209026

Check out the replies. Give it up, Guido, mate.

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He's doing a 3,000 word (and counting) write-up and has a patreon for his FM shite. Fuck me.

The bigger issue there is that there's even one person paying money to make having it worthwhile.

These replies are clearly just the seething fury of n00bs calling "hackz" and "exploitz" :happycry::offshore:

To be fair to him, his site is pretty good at times, I’ve read to and used to to make my own tactics.

There's that one person then.

I've been playing on and off for almost 20 years, but I'm absolutely shit at it. Does that make me a n00b?

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Ha, I'd never pay like. His guide for setting up corners and free kicks was very handy though.

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I don't think you should post here ever again tbf. Begone n00b!

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How much of the TTH FUND does Mike have access to? Cause it might actually be all of us funding Guido’s merry little site.

The fund built the PC I play FM on, apart from that though I've not touched it.

Excited for this. Played 17 extensively on my mobile and enjoyed it greatly. Taking Denmark to a World Cup final being the highlight.

Didn't spend any time in England so I'm tempted by Wolves/Everton.

Anyone else still stuck on an older version? Got back into my FM12 save again recently, not far off the 1500 hour mark now. :rasta:

An interview with someone involved in SI. I didn't get too far into it.

http://pca.st/vYY9

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https://twitter.com/iainmacintosh/st...38779086209026

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Fair play. Strangers pay him to play a computer game he likes.

We’re all only jealous really.

You say that but then a streamers life is basically being paid to be unemployed.

What a life that would be. :drool:

It must be absolute buttons he gets, and given how fraught and defensive all his tweets are it must be pretty stressful as well. I'll stick with the Koreans.

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An interview with someone involved in SI. I didn't get too far into it.

http://pca.st/vYY9

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Miles was on Quick Kevin Will he score a while back and he was not the dick I have become accustomed to. He was actually pretty funny.

Official release is out now, 500mbish update

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I remember the BBC thing they did a couple of years back where Miles denied Tonton Zolo Moukoko's very existence.

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They discussed him on the podcast, and others, and he said it was a big disappointment and he tries to forget those where it goes wrong (like To Maderia)

Well the regen faces are finally fucking improved. Not amazing but better than the horror show of the last couple years.

I'm hesitant to update to the release version, I've got a good thing going early on and fear the slightest change will bring it all crashing down

https://i.imgur.com/hsQvuHK.png

The new patch (full game) has massively increased commentary only speed, which is awesome. Now for some nice skins, and we are done.

Default skin with instant result button is all you need.

https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-...fm18-skin.html

:thbup:

I'd normally have got this by now but the thoughts of setting up that dreaded first preseason (staff, training, etc) is putting me right off. Main reason why I normally only ever have one save per version.

It's €30 on CDKeys at the moment.

Just go for a big club and let the assistant do everything for you. Works for me.

The update ballsed up Vince so Ice Cube's now in charge

https://i.imgur.com/GoxJHcC.png

"So, would you have this down as one of your better days?"
:|

The UI is absolutely horrendous in this version. There's so much info absolutely everywhere.

Won the League Cup with Liverpool.... Check out the celebrations :D
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https://i.imgur.com/8sL5XlR.png

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This is a Godsend.

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The UI is absolutely horrendous in this version. There's so much info absolutely everywhere.

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Yeah, I think that too. Diving into the game for the first time you are utterly swamped. It’s remarkable how bloated it’s become.

So far I'm doing surprisingly well in the first season with Arsenal. Welbeck is killing it, 17 goals from only 9 starts or something (a lot in the cups admittedly).

Playing this sort of X-mas tree 2-3-2-1-2 formation with Wing backs and an AMC, working pretty well.

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Anyone else still stuck on an older version? Got back into my FM12 save again recently, not far off the 1500 hour mark now. :rasta:

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I still play FM11 every now and then. I'm in 2052.

Those graphics. :sick: It’s 2017 and that’s the best they can do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COYLVShkvgw

Finished 2nd in the league in the end at fucking 93 points I think, 1 point behind United :moop:

It was a two-horse race between us for the last two months of the league, where United was constantly 1-3 points ahead, I annihilated them at home 6-0, but after that they just refused to drop any points.

From what I've been hearing and reading, this could be the final straw version. People really aren't impressed at all.

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What’s their beef?

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What’s their beef?

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Most things seem to be media still being utter rubbish after years of the same and the general information overload and poor UI this time round. Does anyone like the new scouting or pre match stuff?

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I don't mind it, its literally maybe a click or two more. Scouting works pretty much the same, its just organised differently, and the pre-match stuff can be skipped.

Wankers love to moan, though. Its more of the same, as it will always be.

Second season's going well

https://i.imgur.com/AUUKaiz.png

Some top level (Arsenal) player suggestions? Like wonderkids etc.

I need a defender and someone to make up for Sanchez leaving. Mathias de Light looks the shit but Chelsea snatched him. And I'm hunting Maximiliano Romero, but doubting he'll get a WP.

Any other suggestions? Would prefer not having to pay over 30M or so.

Lautaro Martinez is a cracking young striker - will cost around $8-15m

Anyone else's Reserve and Youth team managers not arranging friendlies for them, even when set to do so?

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Ta, though in the end I signed Alexander Isak for 36M, mainly just because he's Swedish but he does look like the shit.

If you still need a defender, Jose Gimenez from Atletico Madrid has been solid for me. Cost me over £50 mil though.

I paid 60m for some Vallejo lad from one of the Madrids.

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If you still need a defender, Jose Gimenez from Atletico Madrid has been solid for me. Cost me over £50 mil though.

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Rugani is better and is half the price.

De Ligt is God mode.

Yeah De Ligt seems like something really special.

In the end I got John Stones, not sure about that but he was transfer listed and only 20.5M, so I figured he's English as well, can't be that terrible. Still have a season or two with Koscielny, and I also got Reece Oxford who looks like he could turn out pretty decent.

Anyone finding 18 an easy ride? Won Serie A with Inter at my first attempt. 90 points amassed and only two defeats all season. We weren't anything special.

dont you dare ruin this for me...!

Finished my first season with Liverpool.
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:cool2:

Sturaro has been a must-buy on these early patches, he's been great for me at Stoke. As has Thomas Delaney from Werder, who are usually relegated. Just a shame Angel Correa isn't listed from the start any more.

This new shirt sponsor seems a tad large
https://i.imgur.com/YgRwd4M.png

When is Touch out? I can't be arsed loading up the main one again.

It's out. You get it free with the full game.

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For Android and iOS I mean. I only see 2017 in the Play Store. If I'm going to play the pared back one then there's no point in hauling out a laptop to do it.

That's feasible, I think, @Mike. United's Adidas deal is 75m/year apparently.

I misread it as £300m a year :D

And sorry @Giggles I thought you meant on PC. I know the iphone version is out, but not sure about the ipad one. They're different right?


First deal of the summer is Sanchez in from Arsenal on a free. I'm meant to start my proper save tomorrow....might be tough to stop playing this one.

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I misread it as £300m a year :D

And sorry @Giggles I thought you meant on PC. I know the iphone version is out, but not sure about the ipad one. They're different right?


First deal of the summer is Sanchez in from Arsenal on a free. I'm meant to start my proper save tomorrow....might be tough to stop playing this one.

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Yeah I think there's FM Touch and FM Mobile. The latter isn't worth the bother.

I think you can play cross platform with the same save on Touch too, so the PC one will be handy anyway.

Just read there it's been delayed until this day week.

For those playing, how do I scout the world cup?

Am I just being thick? I used to just set up a new assignment on 17 and pick competition> World Cup.... where is that now?

Right, started my big journeyman save. Started jobless.
https://i.imgur.com/amsvzU9.png

Might as well just give me the league title now.
https://i.imgur.com/lOoT8A1.png

Can't afford scouts or anything but John is in! :cool2:

Diaby running my Oviedo midfield. Peak fm. :cool:

I really like the tactic I've created. And for once I just sort of did it all myself without looking too much at some cheat-tactic from FMBase or something, which is a lot more fun.

It's just really quite solid, I don't score a lot even though to me it seems very attacking, but it's one of those tactics where I can just adjust the mentality a bit depending on the opposition and it works with both Attacking and a Counter mentality without having to change anything else.

I have some other 4-3-3 tactics trained, but in the end I never use them anymore.


So far in the 2nd season I'm top of PL half way through, and breezed through my CL group which, after all, consisted of Real Madrid, AC Milan & Salzburg.

Of course, only to be drawn Barcelona in the Ro16 :moop:


Lacazette is fucking killing it up top as well. Top scorer AND top assister :cool:

I always play it making my own tactics. I just enjoy it that way more. Normally building a tactic to fit my players.

I half do, but I usually look around forums a bit at the start (read: after getting the sack on my first save) to see a bit what works and what doesn't, and making what usually is some sort of tweaked copy of a successful tactic.

I did that this year as well, but then I ended up going with the one tactic I had completely made myself and it really seems to work.


Of course, my latest game was a 6-0 loss to City, but up until then it had worked :uhoh:

Are the blue things supposed to be eyes?

https://gyazo.com/07a44f5f994de0634672569b57d465ff.png

Also, what's the difference between the number rating and the star rating?

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I half do, but I usually look around forums a bit at the start (read: after getting the sack on my first save) to see a bit what works and what doesn't, and making what usually is some sort of tweaked copy of a successful tactic.

I did that this year as well, but then I ended up going with the one tactic I had completely made myself and it really seems to work.


Of course, my latest game was a 6-0 loss to City, but up until then it had worked :uhoh:

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Every year I seem to make tactics that work well a lot of the time but when they don’t work, it goes VERY wrong.

Like on my Liverpool save we looked amazing then got thumped like 5-0.

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Are the blue things supposed to be eyes?

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Binoculars?

Oh yeah, of course.

I like the idea of scouts being defined by binoculars, as if they're all peeping toms perving on reserve team players.

Similarly the magnifying glass that is definitely required to look down a list of names.

Promoted before the end of March

https://i.imgur.com/7HIrYpl.jpg

A veritable goals bonanza

https://i.imgur.com/YbvW2SQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5JY8n6A.jpg
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When it asks you for a match plan on Instant Result, what does Next Match and Last Match mean? On 2017 it had things like 'Play for a Draw', 'Control the Game', etc.

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Right, started my big journeyman save. Started jobless.

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Might as well just give me the league title now.
https://i.imgur.com/lOoT8A1.png

Can't afford scouts or anything but John is in! :cool2:

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Hardly going through this quickly but I just finished my first season. Won the league with a game to go.
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Not sure why my badge has changed.

https://i.imgur.com/ykvF8WW.png

https://i.imgur.com/ltW793p.png

Well now I know I shouldn't have bought this. Tried a few saves initially and I had actually forgot I even had it.

Does 'Instant Result' speed it up a lot? I'm debating whether to get it next month.

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Only way I've been able to play the last 3 or 4 versions. The match engine and commentary have no bearing on what's actually happening anyway, it's just a load of cobbled together preset stuff.

Instant Result on the last one was so broken. I'd win every game 9-0 and then you'd do a normal game and get tonked 3-1.

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Only way I've been able to play the last 3 or 4 versions. The match engine and commentary have no bearing on what's actually happening anyway, it's just a load of cobbled together preset stuff.

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Yeah the part of the game I find enjoyable is the actual management side with the transfers, tactics and lineups, youth development etc. I have literally no interest in what the match engine, which hasn't been improved for at least a decade, blurts out and it's a total slog to go through all the games.

If they took away all 2D and 3D options but just gave me a proper stats printout at the end (say, noting where the goals came from and what sort of move it was along with the overall game stats which they have already) I'd be a happy man.

How do you do instant result?

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You need a skin that enables the button. Baz posted one earlier in the thread.

It was kind of broken compared to 2017 when I used it though. You used to be able to pick a game plan but can't any more.

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Wannachup skin https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm18-skin.html

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You need a skin that enables the button. Baz posted one earlier in the thread.

It was kind of broken compared to 2017 when I used it though. You used to be able to pick a game plan but can't any more.

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You can still use the Game Plan - but you have to set it up during the pre-match meeting the day before.

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Wannachup skin https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm18-skin.html



You can still use the Game Plan - but you have to set it up during the pre-match meeting the day before.

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Is that what the 'next match' 'last match' thing means? I thought it was a bug and just picked last match all the time.

That said I never did the meeting and handed it to the assistant as it's massively over complicated.

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Is that what the 'next match' 'last match' thing means? I thought it was a bug and just picked last match all the time.

That said I never did the meeting and handed it to the assistant as it's massively over complicated.

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Yup, exactly. I do the same, let my Ass Man take care of everything.

I wonder if those stats go back to SI. If swathes of your customers are ignoring parts of the game, what's the point in working on them.

Because plenty of people do use them and removing different ways of playing your game is a terrible idea.

There's believing that Press Conferences add something to the game and then there's their actual worth.

Removing them or forcing people to use them would be worse. Giving the choice is one of the few things they're getting right these days.

I've been playing with the assistant doing everything for many versions now. Even training is largely his unless he fucks it up. Things like press conferences, team talks and such I have long since abandoned.

I think what I really want to play is Director of Football 2018. None of this downstairs tracksuit bullshit. They should probably have added a nuts and bolts DoF mode by now.

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The last version I played you can delegate them, I don't see the issue.

I let Steve Bould do my training. After a while I looked at it, and noticed we'd been doing 75% Defensive training, 2% Attacking and 0% Ball Control - in the last Year.

Seems about right, to be fair :cab:

Most of what they fuck up each version at least has a way of handing it to a staff member, which gives them a pass for most stuff. The big outlier in 2018 is scouting though. You can't seem to really delegate it (and wouldn't want to, squad building is the main part of the game probably), but they have made it an absolute mess now that needs far too much time to make any sense of.

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I wonder if those stats go back to SI. If swathes of your customers are ignoring parts of the game, what's the point in working on them.

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Because most of what I don’t bother with is because it doesn’t fucking work. Press conferences being a prime example. Asking the reigning Premier League champions how they feel about drawing Burnley, with a number of replies all based around you expecting to get thumped is ridiculous. They have tied the questions to your reputation and it just doesn’t fucking work if you do well with a smaller club.

The reputation metric is bollocks, which is part of the problem.

Also the fixed player CA/PA thing that has been in the game for 20 years is bollocks. It's too easy to sort good from bad players, which is why they tried to introduce the ludicrous attribute masking thing ages ago to make it artificially delayed (I've been switching that off for 15 years). They need to revamp the entire player grading system and make it more fluid and changeable.

I took Bournemouth to the title in the first season (3 strikers is the most broken its ever been).

I had a 9 point lead over second and the press still asked me if I believed I could avoid relegation. Good shit.

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Also the fixed player CA/PA thing that has been in the game for 20 years is bollocks. It's too easy to sort good from bad players, which is why they tried to introduce the ludicrous attribute masking thing ages ago to make it artificially delayed (I've been switching that off for 15 years). They need to revamp the entire player grading system and make it more fluid and changeable.

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It is, wonderkids now have a particular range they can hit, and they still may never hit that dependent on attitude.

That's been the same for yonks (hence 'potential' ability) but there are no such things as late developers, massive drop-offs for no particular reason, or people with shit 'stats' who do a great job on the pitch for years, as happens in real football. Spotting one of those would be one of the most satisfying bits of the game, if it were available.

I basically want them to move away from the fixation on 'Finishing 13' towards asking you to evaluate them on actual performances, but I dunno, maybe that's not arcadey enough for the majority of players.

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That'd require you to actually watch the matches though

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What's the point though? The matches basically seem to be:

>goal required for Team B
>run preset goal sequence 74 for Team B

None of it is applicable at all to your setup or tactics. You'd still have stats anyway without having to watch that shite, which would be enough for what Jimmy means.

I had a 4-3-3 which walked all over League 2 and 1 but as soon as I hit the Championship it stopped working. Either there was an update to the game that broke it or I've just kept the majority of the players I started with in the bottom division and it's hitting me hard. Luckily I've been taken over by a guy who was on the board already and I've gone from having no money to having no money, plus I forgot to disable Brexit so it all points to an outstanding few seasons ahead.

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Not if they give me a decent array of stats or text commentary lines for the key moments - i.e. things that have actually happened rather than a number between 1 and 20. You can then combine that with scout/coach reports (I like the star system) to judge a player's current and future output.

I don't want to play Football Scout 2018 going to a windswept Boundary Park in disguise to see if I like someone's gait on the dreadfully animated 3D.

xG :drool:

I mused about a game where player stats were far more susceptible to outside forces on the old old board. Ideally they'd be completely hidden and would have to be inferred from other things, but even a mechanism where they could rocket up or down if the player moved clubs or whatever would be excellent.

As I remember it was inspired by Diego Forlan suddenly becoming Superman when he signed for Villareal.

There are countless examples. Think Drogba, who at 24 was scoring 5 goals in Ligue 2. By 30 he was world class. An FM game would never have something like that happen at those ages, sure there are small variations but in general, either someone is the bollocks from teenage years or they're not.

Luca Toni, Jamie Vardy, etc etc.

Similarly the Torres Collapse wouldn't happen on FM except for monstrous injury.

They need a new engine but as stated multiple times what is point when you own the market and its bought by the cuntload anyway

It's going to be a long season
https://i.imgur.com/gZxA1rn.png

I'm now on 39pts after 32 games. 50 tends to be the magic number to stay put in the Championship and if anything the 14th-20th slot in the division was our spiritual home at the end of the last decade so what I lack in swashbuckling wins I'm making up in nostalgia.

This 15-year old youth candidate is already better than the other keepers in the squad. Never had this happen before

https://i.imgur.com/48Bz31s.png

Dependent on his actual PA he could be beastly.

https://i.imgur.com/x85FAMu.png

A side step to most, but a step up in my eyes. I started my 2017 Journeyman save at Winterthr, a save I ended up going to France to win the league with Metz, Argentina and England with Boca and Man United where I won everything on offer.

https://i.imgur.com/qffyP77.png

Is this the one you want or the bad option?

That seems like no change, effectively, unless you had forrin homegrown players before.

That's the only option I've even seen this year.

https://i.imgur.com/cRi4qO6.png

Not having the best start.

I've got the bad one with a million different clauses of how foreigners can only get work permits by playing in 43% of all internationals against teams that start with a vowel if they're left-handed. Similar to the ruling that ballsed up my behemoth game on 17.

I both times got the one Willie got. It’s great - being able to sign 16 year old Brazilians, Peruvians and Cambodians without a work permit. Plus, 17 players is a lot.

Never in doubt. Came down to the last game of the season just so when they make a film about it, it's more exciting.

https://i.imgur.com/niGkoIV.png

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Never in doubt. Came down to the last game of the season just so when they make a film about it, it's more exciting.

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It seems not so many career updates to read through this year, which is a shame. Is that due to the game being not so popular?

Keep up the good work, Mike and Willie.

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Keep up the good work, Mike and Willie.

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Yeah I've never had so much time to play it but every element is so bad that you end up leaving most things up to staff, and at that stage you're not really doing anything. I tried it again last night and lasted 5 minutes.

Yeah, I hear you. Maybe you're just getting old (like a fine wine). I tried playing my FM11 career the other night but just not the same anymore.

How come you have more spare time?

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Just less to be doing, work has calmed down and I don't be home as late, and I've had a load of holidays saved up to take.

Speaking of updates. here is the full one.

The League
https://i.imgur.com/eItytmT.png

and to show what a big job it was...
https://i.imgur.com/aIRk79X.png

https://i.imgur.com/XW0L9ag.png

The games I was in charge of.
https://i.imgur.com/4FHtIEm.png

The 16 year old striker I found in the youth team kept me up really.

Half the squad is out of contract and we're in huge debt so the regens I got this year will just have to play next season. You don't win anything with kids!

Getting into this now, I prefer it to last year's edition.

At work so haven't got screenshots, but led Watford to 5th in the first season.

Now halfway through pre-season and we've brought in Barreca from Torino, Mario from Villereal, Wilshere on a free transfer and Wallace from Lazio.

Andre Grey netted 29 times last year and we don't really need any reinforcements up front. We play a 4-2-3-1 formation with wingers and an attacking central midfielder.

I need Gomes replacement as he's retiring at the end of the season, then I'm ready to go.

Second season of the Championship I was hovering around eighth but leaking cash while I was linked with TOP TOP TOP CLUBS JEFF so I quit, went on holiday and applied for top division clubs. Thought I was going to end up in a team rock bottom of the SPL until West Ham sacked Bilic while in the top half. Took over, held that position then started overhauling a bit of a creaky old squad. Currently started well and would be top after five games were it not for an away defeat at Sheffield Wednesday

https://i.imgur.com/JsYBI8x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ffcu3mw.jpg

Yes please...

https://gyazo.com/4b60754e248ae9aa7a1777ffc4ba022a.png

Got to the midseason break in my first full season at Winterthur and we're only 9 points off our total for the whole of last season. Which impressive when a bunch of the players, including my two strikers are 17 or under.
https://i.imgur.com/HaETHHk.png

If we'd have won the last game of the season and other results had gone our way I would have got 3rd place. I got beat.
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My contract is up, they've offered me a new one twice. Going to see if I can get a better club. Sadly because both teams I've had have been in money trouble I haven't been able to study coaching badges.

Took on Hamilton in March 2018, who were sat second bottom in the SPL. After sending scouts out to watch every young free agent I could find, I turned up a couple of stinkers but four or five of them have worked out in 18/19, and I'm about to finish 4th.

My young Spanish left back left for Man Utd in January for 2.3m plus 40% profit from his next transfer, and a friendly, and I managed to get him loaned back until the end of the season, and subsequently to extend to the end of NEXT season. Another youngster who I signed and had played aplenty whilst looking a bit limited, a Scottish striker called David Dunn, was sold to Stoke for £1.3m plus 45% of the profit of his next move. That money has been reinvested largely into facilites, with the board approving youth and training upgrades.

I'll sort a proper update with screenies in the new year as I'm getting quite into this now.

Signed on for another year to see if the kids I’ve had come through can play (my left winger is 16, both strikers are 17 as are most of the Centre Mids)
I need to move to a club with enough money to let me do my coaching badges.

Is this worth getting over last year's?

Did you like last years/put much time into it?

Quite a bit, yeah.

It’s not a huge difference. Maybe grab the demo (I think there’s one)
I played loads of last year and have been enjoying this years too.

Finally got this installed and into a game.

Are corners broken? Man lurking on the edge for the free pass everytime is working again :drool:

Half way, or just past it, and I'm ten points behind :(
https://i.imgur.com/lF4hfwH.png

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Finally got this installed and into a game.

Are corners broken? Man lurking on the edge for the free pass everytime is working again :drool:

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Share your wisdom in the form of screenshots and/or a more detailed description.

Decided to buy it and have started my customary Man Utd game.

Transfers in:

Daniele Rugani £30m
Gelson Martins £44.5m
Leon Goretzka £30m
Joshua Kimmich £50m
Alex Sandro £50m

Total: £205m

Transfers out:

Chris Smalling > Tottenham £23.5m
Marouane Fellaini > Monaco £15.5m
Matteo Darmian > Stoke £22.5m
Daley Blind > PSG £27.5m
Ashley Young > Watford Loan
Micky Tarian > Real Madrid £45m

Not sure if they are total costs or before clauses but anyway. Also suspect it took me longer to type that out than a screenshot.

Game's going well so far. Martial is absolutely mental on this.

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May have been a little reactionary as we scored a few early but we have 4 in 16 (joint most in the league) and I have had it set to mixed. Changed to penalty spot to see what that does.

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Is there any way of selling this or when it's not a physical copy are you stuck with it?

You can refund steam games now can't you?

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http://store.steampowered.com/steam_refunds/

Think it's about 14 days or something

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I bought from the dodgy goodness that is cd keys. Wasn't too dear from them anyway.

Nah, you can’t sell it, even the retail box version you put a code into steam to get it to work so you couldn’t sell that either.

https://i.imgur.com/LMSbbO8.png

FFS :mad:

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YES!
https://i.imgur.com/zCTGRQI.png

I've never understood that feature. A classic example of the bizarre desire for realism trumping what is actually fun to play. If you're the manager you should be able to reject bids, or the game might as well be called Football Interim First Team Coach Until The End Of The Season 2018.

Make the rules of football and the competition rules realistic, then give the player absolute freedom to create in every other respect.

Real Madrid have just transfer listed Marco Asensio in November on my game :cab:

Where's the cheapest place to buy this?

Giggles' steam account.

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They've sold me him for £20m up front and £20m in instalments. He's one of the best players in the game.

God bless stupid FM transfers. Guido has a series of 'em on Twitter right now, as Fortuna Sittard. Snapping up fairly solid English youth on a free post-Brexit, then selling them to the top clubs for 50mil+ a couple seasons later.

https://i.imgur.com/B0d9oII.jpg

Why are they using A4 confetti?

It's all we can afford :(

I love how they keep trying to do 3d in an engine so obviously ill equipped to handle it.

That looks like something from about 1996.

WOOO Media prediction of 7th
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https://i.imgur.com/enTpL7h.png

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Basically, these three youth products won it for me.
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https://i.imgur.com/Tp7DJA5.png

https://i.imgur.com/A7synyt.png

Contracts up, I don't plan on staying.

I tried to sign Zivkovic at the start of the season (who has just gone to Barca in January) but shouldn't get him, so bought Gelson Martins instead.

Dunno how good Zivkovic would have been, but Martins is insane. One of those players who plays way above their technical stats. Absolute assist machine.

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That looks like something from about 1996.

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Glad I am not the only one thinking this. I thought it was because I had pulled the graphics back as my laptop is a bit older. Seems it’s juts shit. I swear it looks worse than previous years.

I don't see the need to have 3D at all. They could spend all that time and money on the terrible interface.

So this guy exists but I bet he's left out of the name generation table.

https://i.imgur.com/Kpgk3fI.jpg

I remember him. Johan De Kock was the best name around until Argel Fucks hit the scene (shout out to Rafael Sheidt)

Just beaten Bayern 10-6 on aggregate in the Champions League Quarters.

Lost 5-3 at their place then beat them 7-1 at home.

Defending is for cowards.

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So this guy exists but I bet he's left out of the name generation table.

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The classic:

https://i.imgur.com/uB4q4dA.gif

Chelsea nicked one of my scouts so I tried to sign a new one but the board blocked it because I already have too many.

Checked what my limit is and I currently have 34 of an allowed 18 scouts :cab:

2022/23, might have a chance of cracking the top 4 this time out. Also, who needs defenders when you've got strikers right?

https://i.imgur.com/gBpL9c0.png

https://i.imgur.com/nSieDh7.png

And I'm on the move again. Another side step really
https://i.imgur.com/dDBVbpm.png

Real Madrid and PSG are offering me batshit money for De Gea in second season transfer window (£100m), but there's nobody good enough to replace him, he's not kicking off and I don't need the money so guess they can swivel.

Replace him with Donnarumma if you can get him cheapish? (doubtful)

Won manager of the month in my first month in Sweden.

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Replace him with Donnarumma if you can get him cheapish? (doubtful)

Won manager of the month in my first month in Sweden.

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I did consider it but I don't think Donnarumma is actually as good and I have a very young regen goalkeeper who isn't ready for the first team yet but who I would like to bring through in the future. I could use the money to replace Lukaku with Griezmann or Dybala or someone but he scored 56 in 58 for me last season so not sure I want to even if they are 'better'. Also have a young regen striker I'd like to bring through as his replacement.

Think I'll just stick with what I've got.

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https://i.imgur.com/YptHfLA.png

This is my team at the moment, there's nobody I really want to replace.

EDIT 2: I bought the in game editor - as you can see - because I had about 6 players get injured for about 6 months each within a couple of weeks and I raged. Fite me.

https://i.imgur.com/NYhDgif.png

I know my team's good, but starting to think I might have inadvertently made a really broken tactic...

Never pay for the editor when you can get a cracked FMRTE easily ;)

I was foomin' mate, I couldn't have been messing around googling stuff.

Proper addicted to this. Spent all day doing pre-season ready for my first season in the Premier League with Fulham after winning the play-offs in the first season.

Lys Mousset on loan from Bournemouth almost single-handedly got me promoted.

Only chose Fulham for Matt O'Riley and Ryan Sessegnon. I've had to promise the latter I'll sell him but I'e no intention of doing so not sure what'll happen when the transfer window closes and he's still here. I've bought well (despite being short in a few positions, mainly not having any secondary wingbacks) and can't wait to go again in the big league. Spent £50m. :drool: Will post screenshots next time I get chance.

That team is bonkers.

I am midway through my second season with Crewe. We won the 4th tier at the first attempt and sit in the playoffs mid way through the second season.

The board sold my hottest youth prospect (regen) to Bournemouth for 1.7m the bastards. Fuck knows if he will actually be good but considering they spend that much on him I imagine so.

The transfer window has closed and I'm all set to start my second season - Fulham's first one back in the Premier League since 2014. A lot of wheeling and dealing has gone on:

https://i.imgur.com/1fbmvNy.png

Florinel Coman seems a bit of a bargain for £5m. I play 5-2-3 with the three strikers as one advanced forward (goals!) and two deep lying forwards (assists!) and ideally he'd play as one of the DLF and Paulinho would play AF. However, the latter didn't get a work permit (I decided to sign him anyway cos £4m seemed too good to pass up) so he's gone on loan to Denmark for two years, with the hope he'll score tons and get Brazil caps and qualify for a work permit. I'll honestly be surprised if I ever see him play a game in a Fulham shirt.

Another player I signed despite not having a work permit is goalkeeper Predrag Rajkovic. My scouts rated him as 100 so for £4.2m I was definitely gonna bring him in. I was hoping to get in Guillermo Ochoa to play while super-100 keeper was out on loan in Italy, but I couldn't raise enough funds on deadline day so I've ended up with Adam Federici as my sub and I'll be playing Marcus Bettinelli for another season and hoping the new defensive three in-front of him do their job and keep us up this season.

I've actually bought three and loaned one: Jason Denayer came in on loan from Man City, as per my new Director of Football Gianluca Nani's suggestion, and I've bought Lewis Dunk, Denis Vavro and Lautaro Giannetti. I've never heard of the latter two but my scouts and coaches seem keen on them, so fingers crossed.

My biggest signing was another play rated 100, Lucas Torreira. £25m on one player was pretty risk, but I needed a ball winning central midfielder, and my scouts honestly couldn't stop wanking over him. It took a long time to get him to agree to discuss terms, so I'm really hoping he was worth all the effort. The negotiations were super tense though, because he asked for nothinig and I had to smash out a deal from scratch. Thankfully it went green one the second attempt and Fulham had a new record signing.

My director of football also signed (I get final say, he just makes offers) Patrick Cutrone and Facundo Colidio on loan. The former will probably play as my advanced forward, and the latter will come off the bench when needed. Calvert-Lewin and Isaac Hayden are also just for the bench, really.

Oh, last season I had van der Vaart and he was pretty rubbish. He retired at the end of the season so I took him on as a coach and asked him to recommend a signing. He said I should buy Nicolas Dyhr, so I did. I'm training him to be a deep lying forward. Come on Rafa, don't let me down again.

Here's my team:
https://i.imgur.com/5vZovSB.png

Has anyone any experience with those players?

Three player save with The Reid then Baz? :D

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It would have to be a network game, and Mike would just be on Overwatch.

Thanks...

https://gyazo.com/84521bf6d808745560d17c8be519f435.png

Stayed up. Came in towards the end of the season with them sat in the relegation zone. They play easily the worst football of my three sides so far. Wholesale changes are needed in the summer.
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https://i.imgur.com/WQWpWgR.png

That doesn't sound good.

That's what I got, when a player gets turned down a work permit you seem to win about 8/10 appeals so it's not as game-breaking as I had in 17.

Got this arriving tomorrow:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...69905-pdt.html

How many leagues do you think that could run smoothly?

Also how can I transfer FM files across form laptop to laptop without an external hard drive? Oh and can I just re-download FM from Steam when I sign in on the new laptop?

Just download through steam.

Cheers, how about moving files? I wouldn't mind moving my current save over and all the graphics ect.

You could save your game to the steam cloud of upload it somewhere and download it again.
The rest you’re going to need external storage really.

Ah right, I'll have a look into that, cheers. You can't just get a usb and connect them both to move the files across then?

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Ah right, I'll have a look into that, cheers. You can't just get a usb and connect them both to move the files across then?

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You can do but moving graphics will take ages if you have the faces megapack. It’ll be quicker to redownload it direct to your new device.

You can move the saved games easy enough though. They in My Documents/Sports Interactive/FM18/games

Tactics are in the tactics folder in the same directory.

Graphics are in the same place too but like I said, depending on how many you have, I’d just redownload them all.

Don’t forget to do the real name fix, https://sortitoutsi.net/downloads/vi...ional-team-fix

https://i.imgur.com/cBdJcY5.png

Exciting end to the season!

Southend are back in the Championship lads. Nearly reached the League Cup final as well, but got dicked by Chelsea. Which is another thing that needs fixing, with all the big teams field their first 11 in the cups.

The board have just chucked another £100m my way mid second season, but everyone is playing so well I don't know if I want to buy anyone.

Lukaku is probably the position I could most 'improve', but he's got 29 goals in 22 games so far this season...

What a season for Fulham. Back into the top league via a Playoffs victory and predicted to come 20th by the media. Well I proved them wrong and we finished 6th! Not only that but we also won the FA Cup. Made even better as the final was against Middlesbrough who won the Championship last season and got relegated this season, har har.

I was propelled forward by two of my summer signings, Florinel Coman and Paulinho. The latter got a work permit in January, after tearing it up in Denmark for half a season, so I recalled him and he went absolutely mental in front of goal, scoring 24 goals in 16 games. He also came third in the golden boot despite only playing four months of the season. He could post some Ronaldo numbers next season, if I'm lucky.

Another player who was out on loan to get a work permit was my goalkeeper, Rajkovic. He was playing every week at Napoli and, like Paulinho, was granted a work permit in January and recalled to Fulham. However he was "ineligible to play for more than two teams in one season" so spent the remainder of the season keeping goal for my U23 and U18 team, whoops. So I loaned in Rafael and sorta rotated between him and Bettinelli, who is now worth £14m, somehow, so I may try to cash in on him in the summer.

Other than that, I'm currently studying for my Continental C License (I started from the bottom) and we've set up an affiliation with Australian side Perth Glory to make some dollar, so I'll hopefully tour there in pre-season and sell some Jackson Irvine shirts. Transfer-wise I've got yet another goalkeeper, Juliano, coming in (and he got a work permit so no faffing this time) along with Joaquin Rikemberg, who can hopefully be trained as a deep lying forward to join forces with Coman and Paulinho. Frightening front three, even if I do say so myself! Oh and in January I bought a right wingback who is very raw, but hopefully a long-term replacement for Debuchy, called Robson Zabotto but he didn't get a work permit yet.

I've also signed Martin Hanson from Birmingham for £575k because his determination is 20, and made use of my affiliation with Leyton Orient to bring in Mike Griffiths for £100k, who doesn't look like anything special but has been seriously tearing it up as a box to box midfielder for the U23 team. I doubt he'll ever take my boy Matt O'Riley's place in the team though, considering I only chose Fulham for him and Ryan Sessegnon. Blimey, didn't realise he's worth £31m now. Crazy! Mbappe is worth £98m lol.

Here's my team. Oh and I'm also the Turkey manager. :cab:

Nice work @Baz

I had a busy summer trying to turn my side from one playing awful football to a side I like.
https://i.imgur.com/SHOqdRt.png
I also released a further 15 players on free transfers.

I'm actually into this now. Only way I could think of getting some fun out of it was getting the level 10 mod and starting with the mighty Rugby Town (they start 2 divisions below conf north/south), because obviously everyone is so rubbish it's really easy to build a side, and you don't need to worry about training and stuff.

Justifying having ridiculously overpowered manager stats by getting all role-playing about it:

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It also helps having an absolute monster at this level playing up top:

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Lots of fun so far.

Lads, anyone got a good broken tactic? Just need something to ensure I don't get sacked while I figure out my own.

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https://www.fmscout.com/a-nunos-vision-fm18.html

I don’t know if this is the one I used before developing my own, but it’s the same set up. It worked too well in the end. I won everything with Derby (league and both cups) so sacked the save off and started a fresh without it.

Anyone know how to get the steam cloud working? I've saved my save to the cloud but its not appearing on the cloud on my new laptop when I try to load it.

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https://www.fmscout.com/a-nunos-vision-fm18.html

I don’t know if this is the one I used before developing my own, but it’s the same set up. It worked too well in the end. I won everything with Derby (league and both cups) so sacked the save off and started a fresh without it.

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Jesus H Christ is this tactic good.I am managing Olympiakos and won 4-1 against a full strength Barcelona side at home.Dispatches teams for fun and it's not too shabby defensively.The wing backs are really key to the tactic working.

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Jesus H Christ is this tactic good.I am managing Olympiakos and won 4-1 against a full strength Barcelona side at home.Dispatches teams for fun and it's not too shabby defensively.The wing backs are really key to the tactic working.

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Three at the back with wbs and three up top (either strikes or AMs) is this game's broken one. There's a Chinese tactic going about that took me to unbeaten in about 80 games with the starting United squad.

As ever wingers/inside forwards are generally useless.

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Three at the back with wbs and three up top (either strikes or AMs) is this game's broken one. There's a Chinese tactic going about that took me to unbeaten in about 80 games with the starting United squad.

As ever wingers/inside forwards are generally useless.

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Naaaaah mate.

Having scored 108 and conceded 80 last season, I've started tightening up the defence this one. Still not amazing compared to the teams I'm trying to compete with but I'll be disappointed if I don't get a Champions League spot out of this campaign (2023/4). Hell of a relegation fight building too


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Compared to 50-70 goals and around 40+ assists each from three strikers its League Two tier fam.

Upload your tactic though, would love to give it a go please. Tired of three strikers.

40+ in 20 games?

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One game m8

Wew lad, I might as well quit now.

Where's the best place to upload the tactic?

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Wew lad, I might as well quit now.

Where's the best place to upload the tactic?

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http://www.filedropper.com/

Piece of piss to use

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http://www.filedropper.com/

Piece of piss to use

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http://www.filedropper.com/fordsthegoodcunt

There you go lad.

Inb4 you get bongoed 5-0 by Crewe.

Me love you long time

Tbf you're united, that tactic has hardly been tested. A trained monkey could win the league with them.

Alright mate, I only uploaded it because he asked.

Ok mate.

M8s.

:beer:

Blates mates

Boyz 4 life yo. :rasta:

Fired up the last save I was on and this is the first silverware. As normal I didn't take a job for the first two seasons, so this is my first club.


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A week later, Spurs sacked Pochettino and I applied. Sacked instantly :D

And, as seems to be the norm in all my FM games, I'm back home.


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Welcome to heart attack football (do not use it away unless chasing a game):

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kung fu 343!, listed on the right, is the best tactic in the game btw.

Your tactic is good RL, but as stated as United it is easy mode. Also realised why I don't use IFs or Wingers, I find it fucking boring.

Well you did ask him to upload it mate.

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Sherlock over here

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Sherlock over here

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You can't go out of your way to be a complete tosser about the game and then expect everyone to sit back and give you a big thumbs up.

Huh?

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Where am I being a tosser you absolute fucking mong? <---- except for there, but its justified as ever.

I used RL's tactic for ten games, won all ten and it played very good football, then decided to switch it up to the mental tactic above. Only thing I found lacking was the AMC role but I've found it hard to get a lone one doing brilliantly.

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Watford was the last game before I paid a bit of attention to the defence at last and apart from the Villa game it's been alright, actually closing in on the top on this form too, only six points off Man Utd.

PS Fuck you Stoke

How do you have form like that and not have a 12 point lead?

Because of this bunch of twats, who also just beat me 3-0 to knock me back down to size

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Same. I'm going to try again to get Asensio working as a shadow striker, since he's got nutty striker attributes.

Career so far, having taking charge of Hamilton, second bottom in January 2018... Will do a big one then update a bit more regularly moving forwards.

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I spent the first couple of months scouting all of the 16 and 17 year old free agents I could find after searching a, b, c, d etc in the player search. The good old, select loads, get scout report unearthed a few shite ones who've since fallen by the wayside, but also several gems and I've rinsed and repeated each year since. From the first batch, most of whom debuted in 18/19 (and several of which remained on trial until late on that season due to U18 transfer law bollocks), a few stick out:

David Dunn, Scottish striker (b. 2002), joined Stoke City for £1.6m in summer of 2019. Currently on loan at Dunfermline after returning to us on loan last term but not making much of an impact. Nonetheless looks a good prospect.

Joe Richardson, Scottish winger (b. 2001) Still with us, and attracting firm bids of £20m+ from OM and Bayern Munich amongst others. A Scotland regular, who knows he's too good for Lanarkshire and with a £25m release clause, sure to leave by next summer. Destroyer of defences in Scotland and my biggest hope in European ties, where he's had a more than reasonable impact.

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Scott Gallagher, Scottish midfielder (b. 2001) Technical midfielder who is excelling as a box to box player after being an ok attacking midfield option.

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Gerardo, Spanish left back (b. 2002) Quickly established himself as no. 1 left back in 2018/19 and secured a move to Manchester United for £2.3m + 40% profit on his next sale by the January of that season. A loan back until the end of the season kept him in the team, and since then he's played 4 league games for United and a further 35 top flight games last season on loan at Watford. Rated at £25.5m, likely to add more to the coffers should he move on again.

Marcos Gerardo, Spanish centre back (b. 2002) Strong and quick, but hasn't yet established himself as first choice in defence. He's joined Levante on loan for the season in the Spanish top flight and is improving still, whilst being ever present for them so far.

Mustafa Kurt, French winger (b. 2002) The cream of the crop, had two and a half wonderful seasons with us before heading to Man Utd in January 2021 for £23m plus add ons (£4m) & 40% profit. Played 4 league games for United, and now is on loan at Roma where he's holding down his place. Two caps for France at the age of eighteen has me praying for a £60m+ move to PSG.

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Club improvements
Stadium - we're expanding. So we're sharing with Kilmarnock for now in a Stadium which dwarves our own at c. 18,000.
Training & Youth - Both improved twice now, and producing results.
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This season so far (November 2021)

The squad remains very young. Gallagher, along with Scott Guest (signed from Hibs 2020, 18) and Gardner Neil (from youth, 18) are lynchpins of the midfield. Belgian Mathieu Marchal (17) inexplicably came through my youth side and is probably my best attacking midfielder, or at least the most injury free with Jamie Walker spending half his career on the treatment table. Two players returned from loans they'd been on whilst awaiting work permits - 20 year old Brazilian striker Vainer Tavella and Aussie winger Josh Coggan, who will succeed Joe Richardson when the inevitable occurs. 18 year old Craig Cooper, signed for pennies from Dundee Utd last season is establishing himself up front. At the back, there's experience, with four Scottish internationals competing for the centre half sports - Harry Souttar, Paul Hanlon, Michael Devlin and Scott McKenna, and Jack Grimmer as my most consistent player from right-back. Scott Bain in goals is yet another Scotland cap.

We're second in the league, chasing back to back titles, and have made a good start in Europe, following up making the knockout stages in last years Europa League with a win, draw and loss in our first three group games in the Champs League.

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:yn:

(I've signed one Australian.)

:thbdn:

Got offered the Scotland job after Czaba Laszlo failed to get them to World Cup (2022). I'll be continuing dual-roled with Hamilton until the season end, with only one international before then, and then resigning my club post to concentrate on making it to the Euros in 2024.

We made it out of the CL group, beating Atletico Madrid 3-0 in the final game. Bayer Leverkusen await us in the knockouts, which could be worse.

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Unfortunately, Werder Bremen activated Joe Richardsons £25m release clause, so my star man is gone. I've got a £50m transfer budget, but only £150,000 for wages and no one interested worth spending it on.

Every fucking team has started playing three at the back in my game.

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Anyone tried a Journeyman save? I still had some reputation issues in the last one (getting offers from bigger teams than I should). Is that still a thing?

Season is over :D
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Not bad for a team I took over last year that was playing genuinely the worst football I've played on any FM game.* Had a bad start to the season but once my tactics kicked in and my signings got to know each other it was smooth sailing.

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The plan was to leave at the end of the season, but I'm staying on for a crack at Europe.

I narrowed down Man Utd's lead and then ran out of games. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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With Europe (the qualifying rounds) on the cards next season I've signed 9 free transfers and paid for this absolute diamond my scout found in Brazil
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£96k well spent.

After just missing out on a playoff spot last year, Southend are currently sitting top of the Championship, unbeaten, at the end of January.

The only downside is that I signed Jamie Hanson to replace the ageing Anton Ferdinand, but he can’t actually play this season as “the player cannot play for more than 2 teams in a season”. Thanks for loaning him to Blackburn, Derby, you shower. He can play in both defence and midfield so he would have been really bloody helpful right now.

Couldn’t read the entire report for one lad cos my scout had soaked it in jizz, wanking over this Argentinian wonder kid with a £5.5m release clause. :drool:

Hopefully finish my third season this weekend so will post him soon.

Real or regen?

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Regen, from Newell’s Old Boys.

Well I've made it through another season on my Fulham save. It was touch and go in December when the Liverpool job came up and the press were going bananas over whether I'd take the job. I interviewed and got turned down because I asked for more transfer budget. Ah well, viva la Fulham!

Then in January, something bad happened. Dortmund activated Paulinho's £75m release clause and off he went, bagging me a £71m profit in the process.

Before selling him, I'd already raised quite a bit of money in the summer from selling Mings (£8m), Bettinelli (£15m), Rossi (£2.5m), Dunk (£15.5m) and Ream (£3m) for nearly £45m.

But I'd also spent quite a lot, bringing in the following:
Juliano £4.5m
Joaquin Rikemberg £3.5m
Chris Smalling £13.75m
Caglar Soyuncu £16.25m
Christian Pulisic £16.5m
Thomas Meunier £10m
William Benavides £475k
Rossaldo £10m

Then when the big money came in just in time for the January transfer window, in came the following:
Walter Troncosco £5m
Andres Rezzonico £4m
Julian Draxler £26m
Ernesto Gonzalez £5.5m

Rossaldo (nicknamed by me) was one of the most highly recommended players my scouts have ever found, and he's proving to be a hit so far - when he's not injured, anyway. But then came 100 rated "sign him whatever the price" Ernesto Gonzalez. And when I found out he had a £5.5m release clause, he was on a plane to Fulham before the scout had even finished wanking over him.

One problem I do have is I play three strikers (two deep lying forwards and one advanced forward) yet have signed players like Pulisic and Draxler purely because they seemed like a bargain, even though they're wingers or attacking midfielders and simply can't play up top. I've started re-training them the position but they'll never be as good as proper strikers.

Another problem I have (and not purely because of Brexit) is work permits, or more specifically signing players without them. I've already got six players out on loan with a view to get a work permit (I still don't have a work permit feeder club so am relying on them playing lots of club games, getting called up to their international team and subsequently getting a work permit) and have another eight players arriving in the summer, and I've lost track of who did and who didn't get a work permit. These are the new arrivals:

Hideo Chiba £1.4m
Sasa Petranovic £375k
Hamad Mohammed Ahmed FREE
Wilson Dionisio FREE
Lars Auernhammer £900k
Marcio Roberto £30k
Rosario Sperandeo £15m
Rodrigo Banobre £750k

I'm sure I've never posted screenshots of some of my other non-WP regens, but ehh they're not important yet. I've collected an American, a Japanese player, someone from UAE, and loads of South Americans. Hopefully I can get an American feeder club next because the regen combined with Pulisic should result in some decent merchandise money. We'll see though, every time I try to choose my own affiliate it fails, so next time I'll probably leave it upto my chairman.

Here's how they all performed in all competitions:

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We managed to make it to the Europa League final, which resulted in a penalty shootout against Arsenal. Thankfully we held our nerve and into the Champions League we sailed.

Although really, we were already there after finishing 4th in the league, which looked very touch-and-go after the sale of star player Paulinho.

Next up is the Euros with Turkey and then getting ready for our fourth season, and also my first pop at the Champions League. Wish me luck!

I think for the first time on this save I've spent more than I've made in the transfer window.* After I made them £1mil last season I think I've earned it.*
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They have a rule that you have to have 9 players classed as home grown in Sweden, so I've mostly signed those.

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Fuck aye. Another £5m+ in the bank in TV money and a money spinning QF to go... Starting to regret deciding to be Scotland manager at the end of the season.

Caved in and sold Lukaku to Bayern for £80m, replacing him with Dybala for about a squillionty pounds from Juve.

Because Target Men are for uncultured neanderthals, or something.

I've just played PSG, and they've got rather an interesting situation going on with their goalkeepers. They spent a while trying to lob £100m at me for De Gea, but after giving up they still weren't happy with their two current keepers (Kevin Trapp valued at £31.5m and Alphonse Areola valued at £37m) so they went out and spent £8.5m on Mathew Ryan from Lokomotiv Moscow who now appears to be first choice :cab:

They also spent £120m on Gabriel Jesus.

Ten games in and things are going well
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I've just played PSG, and they've got rather an interesting situation going on with their goalkeepers. They spent a while trying to lob £100m at me for De Gea, but after giving up they still weren't happy with their two current keepers (Kevin Trapp valued at £31.5m and Alphonse Areola valued at £37m) so they went out and spent £8.5m on Mathew Ryan from Lokomotiv Moscow who now appears to be first choice :cab:

They also spent £120m on Gabriel Jesus.

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The AI is silly, it took me a moment to work out why/how I kept getting confusing messages like this about one of my own players:

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I had Harry Kane signed sealed and almost delivered on deadline day but either my bad maths or the game pulling a fast one meant I was short and I ended up signing nobody. :uhoh:

Quick question,what's your take on multiple first teamers being loans?I am being priced out or flatly rejected by smaller teams for sensible bids i make and i am forced to loan players to fill my roster.I am in Lazio after 3 years and even though i have loaned Djibril Sidibe,Javi Martinez,Gabriel Barbosa and Krychowiak to name a few,i still need to get players when the season finishes.I know this probably doesn't bode well for the future but what's your opinion since the the player values are exorbitant?

There does seem to be a big difference between what other clubs can sign players for and what I can.

Every conference I’m being told I over spent on whoever I’m welcoming, whilst my rivals are still pulling in players for half what they’d accept from me.

Standard. The ai has always been able to get better deals done, who here hasn't missed out on a player who goes and signs for another club on half the wages he wanted from you.

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This is the point I've left West Ham. Load of big cheeses after me with Spurs, Arsenal and Liverpool offering me the job, but I was listed as favourite to take over an Inter team who are only second behind Juve on goal difference, so I'm off to Italy. That's a spicy meataballa.

Worst part is that the CPU either completely ignores the rules or is too stupid to process them, as the Europa League squad is six Italian players short of the minimum with only three replacements allowed, so I have to submit a 21-man squad to get around it.

Two and a half seasons ago I took over a club last in the league and just about kept them up

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:cool2:

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Mostly down to this mans goals
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First time at the club I've spent more than I sold
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and signed a lot of free transfers. (I trial anyone released and offer anyone with good stars a deal)
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I also got the Chile job :D

Contract ran out. After a failed interview at Birmingham, I'm currently the bookies favourites for the Sunderland job.

I'm on a month to month deal, something I hadn't seen before:
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And I've gone!
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You look like a lesbian, Mike.

and in the game.

A sexy lesbian though.

I've just started a Blackburn save with a transfer update, they have some ridiculously good young players:


Jack Evans

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Kyle Connell - no technical ability, just a battering ram up front :drool:

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George Wilson

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Tyler Magloire

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David Raya - those PPMS on a keeper though :sick:

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Sold the 20% sell on fee clause for Phil Jones which got me just over 3m. Fully expect to go up as champions, and most of these players are good enough for the Championship. The board want me to sign high profile players so I need to remove that asap, cos who the fuck am I supposed to sign in League 1?

What’s PPMS?

Anyway, David Rays is currently my Southend ‘keeper. Signed him for £8 mil when we were promoted to the premiership. He’s pretty solid.

Preferred player moves, ie Tries to Play Way Out Of Trouble.

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FFS!! They've got like £10mil in the bank, why do they need the money :(

Last time it happened I could threaten to quit, I guess cos I haven't been there long I can't this time.

EDIT: The little legend turned them down :D

Anyone fancy winning £25k?

*checks for affiliate id in link*

“Norwich City Legends”

alright mate.

Is it worth (£20) it this year?

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yep

I asked this months ago and noone replied - where's the cheapest place to buy it?

Baz linked it for 20 quid in GameZine.

Isn't CD Keys always the answer to that? I got it for under €30 at launch on there. And it was still a waste of money.

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http://www.thethirdhalf.co.uk/showth...l=1#post252672

£18.81 if you get the Facebook 5% code.

It was on sale on Steam yesterday, other than that holding your nose and googling for a key site is going to be the cheapest.

Fuck me, linking to a post, with links to a post on reddit, which links to the website.

P.S. thanks

You've probably entered 6 affiliate links in that time as well.

You never ever click on a Baz link.

:rolleyes:

Only Amazon :checkit: (its £19.99 on there)

Loading up 118 leagues from 75 nations.

A little reserved for me but Claasen has added some new nations which is cool.

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Edit: Stupidly gave myself an A coaching badge and I had 150 offers in the first day. Retired and gave myself a C badge, should be less mental.

More updates please.

Glad Mahow has got in on the action.

Had to change it a little as I got a couple of crash dumps so it's fewer leagues/countries.

I am now the proud manager of Montserrat Volcano Observatory Tremors.

Predicted to finish 4th in the 6 team league which is dominated by the Royal Montserrat Police Force who have won 6 of the 8 titles (it's been going since 1974 but a volcano has caused a lot of disruption). It's only a 4 month league (September-December) with 10 games so it's pretty slow paced.

We have no rivals but I'd like to unofficially declare the Seven Day Adventists and the Secondary School our rivals.

One of our strikers only has 5 finishing so that will be fun.

Stadium has a capacity of 1000 apparently so sadly we wont be able to accommodate the whole of the 6000 or so living on the island. Here is the stadium:

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Here's a picture of the island from Wiki:

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Here is our best player:

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I'm training him to be a striker as I'll be using a 4-3-3 from the Steam workshop and I just hope that his pace will fuck everyone in the league.

There's a Hells Gate and half of the island is an exclusion zone? What a place.

Is this where Player Unknowns Battlegrounds happens?

Newgen day in Montserrat and our squad has a GOLDEN GENERATION. Here's the best:

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Golden indeed.

Observaty?

It's a display error or something I think.

It has the correct name (Observatory) when I click on the team page but it gets shortened to that everywhere else.

It's incredibly fucking annoying and I even bought the editor to try and fix it but I obviously can't change it.

And we're done.

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Had a few slip ups (fuck PC United and the church going wankers) but we had the title all but tied up going into the last game as we had a 3point and 5 goal difference buffer.

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Steve Taylor was great. He scored 10 in 10 (4 penalties) so the experiment to turn him into a ST worked.

I’ve seen Mahows stadium from a helicopter :cool:

Nearly showered it with shite and vomit. Less :cool:

Where were you to get a helicopter over Montserrat? Did you see bits of the exclusion zone? How much of a wreck was it?

You play the police, a school and what sounds like a death cult. Montserrat sounds more like a Bond villain's private island with each turn.

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Wherever I go next will be a clear step back.

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On our Honeymoon cruise, got the helicopter from Antigua. It basically looked like a car park, but the pavement has been laid over whatever the fuck was there. Basically, the Volcano is the Pikey of the piece. There were still trees cracking on with life, which I found pretty mental. We mostly just circled the volcano though.

It's fun to stay at the...

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Full name of the club is Young Men's Christian Academic Futebol Clube and I just couldn't say no.

We're in the East Timorese Football League Second Division Group A which is an incredible catchy name and we're predicted to finish second.

Here is our best player:

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Here is the stadium:

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There is £35k in the bank with a £17 wage budget of which we're using £13.

Someone's hit the big time!

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Going well!

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Got Wigan first in the playoffs.

@Sir Andy Mahowry: How do you find the reputation thing this version? Last version I went with the lowest possible options and still found that I got unrealistic offers quite often. Is it still the same?

Loving it Mahow. How many matches in a season with the new club?

Mike - you promoted?...or not.

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Mike - you promoted?...or not.

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12 games, the winner of the two groups are promoted but they also then play in a 'GRAND FINAL' to determine who the ultimate champion is.

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Mike - you promoted?...or not.

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I have Wigan in the play offs, I’ll do them tomorrow :)

Play off time!

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Not happy with that away goal, came late on and mostly as my left back had gone off injured so the right back was filling in for him.

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Flippin eck. Turns out only having one left back and one good right back isn't going to lead to glory.

Shiiiiiiit.

Keep your decent players in the summer hopefully and build on it.

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Got Wigan first in the playoffs.

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The Saddlers staying safe :cool:

The mighty Grecians falling short of any actual achievement is pretty realistic.

3 league games in and I already have backups moaning about not starting enough.

It's nice to know that some things just don't change.

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3 league games in and I already have backups moaning about not starting enough.

It's nice to know that some things just don't change.

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My favourite thing in the previous version was rotation players moaning about not starting enough while starting half the games and featuring as subs in even more.

This league is annoying as fuck.

12 games running from March to fucking September. June is the only month that no one plays as well so it's not like there is a huge period off.

https://i.imgur.com/hx9Df2V.png

Also my team hates me because of my lack of reputation, the wankers.

https://i.imgur.com/8ROOE43.png

https://i.imgur.com/o086IEm.png

:drool:

Small pockets has also gone with Mancini replacing him.

Started my own Jman game although nothing as extreme as Mahow's. I loaded all the European leagues (no customs):

https://i.imgur.com/uDCSzET.png

Went on holiday until mid-November and then started applying for jobs. I got various interview offers as well as proper job offers and decided to go for:

https://telesport.cms.mtv.hu/wp-cont...3%A1r-logo.png

That's Soroksár SC from Hungary's second tier. That's how the league looks at the time I took over:

https://i.imgur.com/y8GRJiU.png

It's going to be an uphill battle, but the club is definitely underperforming so I think we can turn it around.

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Shiiiiiiit.

Keep your decent players in the summer hopefully and build on it.

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I’ve made some big changes as it was an older squad.

I’ve decided not going up is for the best as we’d come back down. Hopefully we go up as champions this year :cool2:

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It's going to be an uphill battle, but the club is definitely underperforming so I think we can turn it around.

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10 games later, in which we earned a grand total of 6 points and I'm starting to reevaluate my position. :rosebud:

Edit: And I got sacked due to losing the support of the players (even though we had started to turn it around a bit). What a nice little feature that is!

I see SI still haven't figured out how "Interfering with play" works in the offside rule.

https://i.imgur.com/nDKhVk5.png

:moop:

Chairman also resigned a day after the initial news item came in.

Edit: A day later...

https://i.imgur.com/hMeyxVk.png

They don't fuck about in East Timor (despite having 50 odd days between matches in some cases), they came in on Sunday 19th and had it all completed on the 22nd.

Are you visiting the dole office? Domingos has it nailed on.

It took them 8 days to realise that Domingos is a chancer.

I’ve made my QPR squad too big I think.

My mighty Rugby Town side have hit a rough patch of form. Down to 3rd in the league, and LEE HUGHES's (player/manager) Worcester City have gone top. Frustratingly only the winners get promotion and there's no playoffs, and my outrageously good for this level striker is out of contract in the summer so I probably need to sort it out.

What kind of tactics are good on this FM, then? Bear in mind I've got level 9 shitkickers.

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My mighty Rugby Town side have hit a rough patch of form. Down to 3rd in the league, and LEE HUGHES's (player/manager) Worcester City have gone top. Frustratingly only the winners get promotion and there's no playoffs, and my outrageously good for this level striker is out of contract in the summer so I probably need to sort it out.

What kind of tactics are good on this FM, then? Bear in mind I've got level 9 shitkickers.

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3 at the back, attacking wingbacks, 2 in midfield, 3 attackers (either 3 strikers or 1 striker in front of 2 Attacking midfielders)

And we're done:

Here is how the league finished:

https://i.imgur.com/MYtGTOo.png

This secured promotion to the top division but we had to have a game against Lalenok to determine the champions:

https://i.imgur.com/knsX9Pu.png

Here are the results:

https://i.imgur.com/eXtrC6H.png

As you can see we also got to the final of the Cup, so how did that go?

https://i.imgur.com/KkiPQZy.png

:(

I thought we had it after smashing a top division team in the semi-final but despite the mountain of chances we created our strikers (who are all shit) just couldn't put them away. On the other hand their strikers put away their chances. Disappointing end but I'd have taken it before hand.

Here are the squad awards too:

https://i.imgur.com/h46NZeY.png

I'm not sure how a DRL was so good, especially as he didn't score any goals and he only grabbed 1 assist but whatever. Probably just goes to show how shit our strikers were.

Two league titles in two seasons is pretty good though.

Oh and the start and middle was awful, my team all hated me because of my shit reputation. Eat a dick lads.

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3 at the back, attacking wingbacks, 2 in midfield, 3 attackers (either 3 strikers or 1 striker in front of 2 Attacking midfielders)

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Gone for something between the two - 3 at the back, attacking wingbacks, 2 in midfield, with an AMC behind 2 strikers. Been absolutely smashing teams since then. so cheers for the advice.

https://i.imgur.com/3hJAKMn.png

I'm using this now.

Gelson Martins is somehow top scoreer with 28 in 30. We're in January and the front four have 102 goals between them, lol.

And I'm back in the job. This time with Kartileh in the Dijibouti Premier League which is already underway.

https://i.imgur.com/sF02gkf.png

12 games left as it's an 18 game league.

I had some better options but three things really pulled me in. The first is their position in the table, they're predicted to finish sixth so they players are doing well. The second is the wage budget, the club is currently spending £40 p/w but the budget is set at £1,632 so I can go fucking mental. Finally, the third reason is the most appealing:

https://i.imgur.com/gJfZYhc.png

I want to break that dominance by the phone wankers.

Facilities:

https://i.imgur.com/hcqYPSl.png

:sherlock: The main team in the league owns us? Surely that's just a bit dodgy.

The stadium:

https://secure.cache.images.core.opt...0x450/3318.jpg

http://www.europlan-online.de/files/...05d2c1692b.jpg

http://www.europlan-online.de/files/...76614e1677.jpg

It's a real beauty.

Here is our key player:

https://i.imgur.com/AUbqhtY.png

And our hot prospect:

https://i.imgur.com/TfPtXCw.png

First game is today (the day I was hired) against the phone bastards so that's a nice and easy start.

Edit: They own most of the league, no wonder they've fucking dominated it.

Edit: Oh and my keeper is on international duty for the first match, ofc he is.

Do you guys play the offside trap? I find that even though I play with a deeper line I still get a lot of passes behind the defence.

@Sir Andy Mahowry: It's the stadium they own, no?

https://i.imgur.com/rKNBIFE.png

:drool:

I'll probably get sacked in the morning for beating the almighty overlords.

I just paid £100m for a 17 year old striker from Leicester :eyemouth:

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I just paid £100m for a 17 year old striker from Leicester :eyemouth:

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Lets have a look.

https://i.imgur.com/31SPdJJ.png
Striker from my last team. He wouldn't come to QPR with me. Not a bad bit of business though, I paid £97k to bring him over from Brazil.

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Lets have a look.

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https://i.imgur.com/m4zCSeF.png

You tit. He's a nobody.

I mean you're wrong, but OK.

He’s no Bentinho.

I like him.

He's not worth 100m but then RL is playing as United so the price is doesn't really matter.

My director of football bid £175m for Rashford whilst I had 3 contracts pending for better/equal players.

Responsibilities changed quick time.

This is the best 4123 I've used this version. Utterly lethal, about win the league and Europa with Everton first season with it:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share...er-united.html

Change striker to AF and take off tackle harder on the two full backs.

@Sir Andy Mahowry - So Dijibouti own your club, the league is named after them, and they've won the league every year?

Crush the bastards.

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@Sir Andy Mahowry - So Dijibouti own your club, the league is named after them, and they've won the league every year?

Crush the bastards.

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Djibouti is the country. Also I'm pretty sure they just own the stadium. It's just weird wording.

Hardly any clubs in Africa have their own stadium, somewhere pokey like that they'll play all the league games in the national stadium or whichever grounds local cities have.

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Hardly any clubs in Africa have their own stadium, somewhere pokey like that they'll play all the league games in the national stadium or whichever grounds local cities have.

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Even more so a country of less than a million people.

Just got a new striker who shits on all of my other strikers. First game and I see he's ineligible as he's played for too many teams this season.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...0/063/Rage.jpg

So after getting sacked from Soroksar, I applied to a lot of jobs and got a lot of offers. In the end I decided to join:

http://www.stenhousemuirfc.com/image...ast%20fife.png

I know it's difficult to guess from just the badge, but that's East Fife. We play in the 3rd tier of Scotland and the club managed to get into the playoffs last season but didn't get past the semis. I would like to say that we can try and get the 1 automatic promotion spot, but Livingston (the team that got relegated from the Championship) and Raith (the team that narrowly missed automatic promotion last season) are significantly bigger clubs that us, so the goal is a playoff spot, hoping that we can cause an upset there.

I've reached the mid-season part and we've been doing quite good so far:

https://i.imgur.com/48N6xpQ.png

But it has to be said that the table is flattering our performance a bit. We are on a great run currently with 13 points in the last 5 games, while the teams around us have been faltering. Our attack is as good as any in the league but our defence leaves a lot to be desired. This chap below has been our best performer with 17 goals to his name:

https://i.imgur.com/O8GVqm5.png

https://i.imgur.com/SjZBM8K.png

Youth recruitment day and I get this gem.

Looks shit to all of you but he's already one of my best central midfielders. Going to start him in my next game and see what he can do.

Takes my tally of Warsama's to 4 though.

Boy wonder scores 2 in his debut.

Hero.

That moment when there's more competition for best Warsama in the club than there is for best midfielder.

I sold Sandro to PSG for 70mil. The game is fucked.

Done.

https://i.imgur.com/rQug0vH.png

https://i.imgur.com/0VWPn4Q.png

The telephone bastards were surprisingly shit. I thought I'd have a real tough time but we steamrolled it with very little resistance.

Cup final:

https://i.imgur.com/dVsW9Hp.png

Should have been simpler but they but our strikers were shit. Luckily we got away with it.

3 league titles and a cup win in 3 seasons, not too shabby.

I finished my season as well.

https://i.imgur.com/FXq8Aax.png

Last game was against Livingston at our place and a win would take us to 1st, but sadly we could only muster a draw (and really we didn't deserve better). Looking back at the season we only have ourselves to blame for not winning the league as we squandered too many a lead. We faced Raith in the Playoffs, but I wasn't too hopeful, seeing as we failed to get a single win in our 4 encounters (2 draws and 2 losses). That said, our performance in the playoffs was abhorrent and we went out, losing 5-1 on aggregate. They went on to beat Ayr 5-1 on aggregate in the finals too, so at least we won't have to face them next season.

I am not sure where to go from here. I want to stay but our star striker (whose loan I had hoped to renew) didn't have his contract renewed at Celtic and I doubt he's going to want to sign for us. Finding a replacement for his 31 goals will be a tough task. On the other hand I don't see much promise in looking for a new club.

I really wish I could hire a PA or something to do these shitty job interviews for me.

They're so fucking shit and pointless.

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I really wish I could hire a PA or something to do these shitty job interviews for me.

They're so fucking shit and pointless.

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Yeah they are somehow even worse than press conferences.

Q - Can you be trusted with our transfer budget?

A - If anything I would be more careful than usual with the budget entrusted to me


First day, new office furniture ordered

https://i.imgur.com/eodnuv4.png

Playing my first game as FC United, and really enjoying it so far. We had an incredible start to the season and were top of the league, but the last month or so has brought us back down to Earth. We lost home and away against Salford, who are now top, and we've slipped to third. Still, I was hoping for playoffs, so anything above that will be a bonus.

Plus we've had a brilliant FA Cup Run. We've reached the 4th round, beating Wycombe 5-3 away in round 3. Just had the draw for round 4 :drool:

https://i.imgur.com/zEBZCJu.png

Shame it's not away.

My personal favourite is when they ask you if you're planning to stay long at the job.

https://i.imgur.com/XJyXrMu.png

http://www.datasportsgroup.com/image...x200/15482.png

Here is the real life team according to Google:

http://www.martinique.franceantilles...83ac50c875.jpg

One guy even has a Wiki page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Blanchard

Unfortunately I doubt he's a white boy from Quebec who also used to play hockey.

https://i.imgur.com/vjOXYrB.png

Here is the stadium:

http://www.mairie-schoelcher.fr/var/...-municipal.jpg

http://avpfcs.e-monsite.com/medias/album/dsc03346.jpg

Here is our key player:

https://i.imgur.com/YWBx1Bg.png

Our hot prospect:

https://i.imgur.com/KX355bl.png

Budgets:

https://i.imgur.com/DLBkjQA.png

Table:

https://i.imgur.com/eou5yo8.png

We're predicted to finish 12th so unless I'm incredibly handy in the market I think my run of league titles will end at 3.

It's between Good Luck and Golden Lion for a place in my heart from that division.

Your Key Payer and Prospct are both white? In that team? Racist cunt.

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@Jimmy Floyd will love a bit of Club Colonial.

First big transfer is in.

https://i.imgur.com/wR3na6k.png

https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-g...Vitulin-00.jpg

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...7848?s=612x612

Instantly our best player.

Hey that guy has a wikipedia entry. It's french wikipedia and it's a single line, but he has one!

We've hit the big time.

He even has international caps and goals.

Sellout.

Christ, I've just seen his value.

27k. The rest of the first team squad combined has a value of £5800.

Like 4 and a half times better than the whole squad :drool:

Foreign versions of Wikipedia pages fascinate me. According to Manx Gaelic Cov are still in the Championship and it's 2008, which is the world I'd like to live with.

When using instant result, do people find that the assistant manager changes the players' positions around? I have a couple of players playing as shadow strikers, but as they're only being trained and not natural in that position, I find them being moved up front, or deeper. Is there a way around this?

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Foreign versions of Wikipedia pages fascinate me. According to Manx Gaelic Cov are still in the Championship and it's 2008, which is the world I'd like to live with.

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The Romanian version of Coventry is a mess.

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_City_FC

In the Coca-Cola Championship (so 2008ish), a previous chairman (2007-11), your squad from 2009 but then it has your manager from last season.

Edit: Actually Slade is only on the right, in the detailed staff list Coleman is there.

Happy 2009.

Ah, the days when Andy Thorn was just scouter and we hadn't stupidly decided he should be Antrenor principal.

https://i.imgur.com/UWLvuja.png

Ugh.

Played a match in Chile on the same day I played away to Portsmouth. Drew both.

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https://i.imgur.com/UWLvuja.png

Ugh.

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I've known one or two local cricket leagues to have a similar system, the idea being that you get 0 if you fail to fulfil the fixture. Probably happens in Martinique football.

There's also that Scottish League Cup format where it's the standard 3/1/0 but if you draw you go to penalties and the winner gets 2 points instead.

The JPT did that this season too. I didn't like them adding reserve teams last season, but getting rid of draws in favour of penalty wins and losses made me glad we were rubbish and got out of it on purpose this year.

Won a league game 2-0. Told the players "You did well tonight". "Some players have reacted negatively". Ok!

Only September but still...
https://i.imgur.com/m1E5dSb.png

Final few games and our rivals have been awarded (and scored) 5 penalties in 2 games, I kid you not.

We did it:

https://i.imgur.com/tnN1zVu.png

It looks close but it took a massive fuckup on our part to make it so. We were 9 points ahead with 6 games to go and we proceeded to only pick 6 points thereafter.

Ridiculously, Ayr had a total of 6 penalties in the last 3 games. Ironically, their 6th penalty was the only one they missed, and it was injury time of the last game that they proceeded to draw.
The whole thing felt sort of unfair as Ayr had a striker that my scouts considered to be "leading Champìonship player", who has been wanting to leave for more than a year and apparently nobody came in for him. He scored 40 goals in the league and 50 in total. They somehow managed to go out on the playoff semis (to the team that held them to a draw in the last game no less).

I don't know if I want to stay in Scotland. This whole "playing 4 times against each team" shenanigans has become a bit tiresome.

The good thing about that is you get to actually know the opposition quite well, which adds to the immersion for me. I've just spent five seasons with FC Halifax and I felt like when I left I really knew the leagues down there.

My winger won player of the year and yet didn't make it in the team of the year.

In the end, summer came, the quality of players that were interested to sign for us didn't go up whatsoever (players that were on loan with us last season even refused to renew their loans), so I just decided to resign and look for a new club. After 15 games in the new season, they have managed to gather a total of 2 points with 7 goals scored so it seems like I made the right choice. I went on holiday for a couple of months and then started applying for jobs. In the end I ended up at:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rimb_Badge.png

They got relegated from League 1 last season, and after 18 games find themselves in a dire situation:

https://i.imgur.com/crWoKbT.png

But the personnel seems good, so I think I can turn it around. This guy seems to be the cream of the crop:

https://i.imgur.com/mmGuqeZ.png

League:

https://i.imgur.com/nyk6w6w.png

https://i.imgur.com/C9Gtzq7.png

I'd have taken second going into the season as we were predicted to come 12th (although when we signed Vitulin the preciction went up to 6th) but to come so close :( The draw with Golden Lion was the end really, we had them in that match but our strikers all played like Danny Welbeck. I genuinely hate Franciscain now too, they're such bastards.

Cups:

https://i.imgur.com/72MZ2PQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/bSaUFfQ.png

The one that I won doesn't really count as it was some 4 team piece of shit but the rest, I'm gutted with. Franciscain are my first real enemies on this version, lost both league games and 2 of the 3 cup games although we barely won that (they led 3-1 but we scored 2 late on, they then missed a penalty in extra time before we found a winner), no matter how good we were playing at the time, we'd take them on and they'd have the beating of us. Such pricks.

For some reason I got no season awards in my mail so here is the squad view of the first team:

https://i.imgur.com/dBPF6D9.png

Vitulin and Vanitou were the reasons why we were so good, they bossed the midfield and that was vital for us. Strikers wise, they scored a lot but they were the most infuriating dickheads ever. Especially Marin who seemed to have to miss 5 before scoring.

Technically I did win a cup (and it took me to 6th in the Martinique hall of fame) so I'm not leaving empty handed but I do feel that I could have done more. First team I've been at that I almost didn't leave too but I want to start moving up instead of the constant sideways moves.

https://i.imgur.com/vv3CUXC.png

Here is the team in real life:

http://www.balonazos.com/wp-content/...encia_0801.jpg

:cool:

https://i.imgur.com/qsJXlwG.png

Stadium:

https://static.panoramio.com.storage...e/67543675.jpg

https://static.panoramio.com.storage...e/48079823.jpg

It actually looks semi-decent, easily the best so far on my journey.

Key player:

https://i.imgur.com/26sWS41.png

Hot prospect:

https://i.imgur.com/oDPKl6L.png

Fuck all else in the youth team.

First team stats:

https://i.imgur.com/pEOVzX6.png

Although I have terminated the loans of 2 players so they're not listed just yet.

Budgets:

https://i.imgur.com/wFhCUGr.png

Table:

https://i.imgur.com/xkdfzZL.png

League is on a 2 month break right now so I've got some time to try and bring players in and get them used to my tactics so the situation isn't too bad.

Our first signing (window opens in a few days):

https://i.imgur.com/kXkJtKj.png

:drool:

I had lined up another Mexican striker (Pedro Goulart) but the prick rejected me.

I've also signed someone from Club Franiscain to try and fuck them up.

I might or might not have had intimate relations with a girl from that city. :naughty:

I might or might not have spoken to a camgirl from there.

https://i.imgur.com/Eu8Zklv.png

https://i.imgur.com/3d8FTU2.png

£100m, Pep.

https://i.imgur.com/kP831kk.png

Pretty good season overall. We easily avoided relegation and although our final position is not flattering, we actually maintained a playoff form during the games I was in charge of. On top of that we also made it to the Useless Cup semis. We definitely need to fix our defense, as we threw an awful lot of points away due to defensive mistakes and lapses in concentration. I believe with a good summer transfer-wise we could be looking at going for a playoff spot next season at the very least.

This lad was far and away our best performer:

https://i.imgur.com/J64JRm7.png

His natural position is left winger and that's where he played, which makes the fact that he finished top scorer in the league (a whole 6 goals more than the second) all the more impressive.

Transfers in:

https://i.imgur.com/34u8uUN.png

Here are some select players:

https://i.imgur.com/KftoMjH.png

https://i.imgur.com/Lhb6PX6.png

https://i.imgur.com/kxEQIww.png

https://i.imgur.com/zvjH5gd.png

I went a bit mental with the forrin lot as you can only play 3 in a game (so it was always the keeper above, one of the African defenders and my Mexican striker), I also didn't spot that it takes 10 years for players to be naturalised. Club will make some nice money though.

League:

https://i.imgur.com/n0DZzm3.png

So that's the overall thing but because of how the league is run only the closing stage and playoffs mattered for us.

https://i.imgur.com/q7Pl6oT.png

I was hoping I might sneak into the top 8 but we were brilliant.

https://i.imgur.com/XThSrpx.png

Somehow we even went through the playoffs, although I was lucky that Aragua beat Caracas as they'd have donned us again.

So due to our performance we entered the champions playoff (us against the winners of the opening stage playoffs) to determine the winners of the league.

https://i.imgur.com/53y7ZSp.png

https://i.imgur.com/ksq2H8v.png

It's a stupid as fuck system but we took advantage. Champions despite finishing the opening stage in the relegation zone.

Cup:

https://i.imgur.com/QBvQjsE.png

So close to winning that as well but Caracas are quality and we couldn't get near them whenever we played them.

https://i.imgur.com/uSUZqPE.png

https://i.imgur.com/GIPauDh.png

Marin was ridiculous, far too good for this league. 27 goals in 34 games with 17 assists was one of the reasons why we were so good.

Also, the keeper finished with a 93% passing completion rate so the price has gone up by £10m for Pep.

Here is my trophy cabinet right now as well:

https://i.imgur.com/bmKTOkw.png

Reputation has gone up by half a star or so by coming here so I should be in line for some better jobs too and hopefully I wont have my squad hating me for 95% of the time that I am there.

Chitiyo looks way too good for that level as well.

He is.

He was a rock.

Found it hard to leave as I really do like the players there and I think I could have done well in the continental cup.

Are you that committed to "one season per club" then?

It's largely one season but I always do more if I find a club I like.

Had their finances been a bit better (we were losing money at a huge rate each month despite me only using like 50% of the wage budget) I would have stayed. The club was about £300k in debt until we got the competition rewards.

Yeah, fuck that. Never found much enjoyment in managing clubs that are hemorrhaging money left and right no matter what you do.

Might be because I'm in the lower leagues but short crosses seem way off this version. Like the winger is at the edge of the area and he will do a lobbed cross 9 out of 10 times instead of a normal/low cross.

I just got an intriguing offer from a team called 'Disasters' in Guam, mainly due to their name but their club badge is a black hand holding a purple grenade which is also tempting.

Just looked them up though:

https://us.soccerway.com/national/gu...season/r42793/

That is the league they are in. They are in 16th place with 4 points from 8 games a goal difference of fifty fucking eight.

Results have been (all away unless stated): 3-0 loss, 11-0 loss (H), 7-0 loss (H), 1-1 draw, 8-2 loss, 3-0 win, 17-0 loss and 17-0 loss. One team in the league has scored 59 goals in 6 games. I can't think of any other league as mental as that, the top 4 or 5 teams must be professionals with the other teams fielding postmen.

The league is normal on FM which is a shame because if it was like reality I'd have jumped at the chance to try and turn them into a powerhouse.

I'm used to those funny names in leagues like that, but I don't think anything can top Beercelona. :D

And I have my new job:

https://i.imgur.com/HytYQxU.png

Here is the first team squad:

https://i.imgur.com/brblGvc.png

Our key player:

https://i.imgur.com/aIX6xwz.png

Who I will retrain as a striker.

Hot prospect:

https://i.imgur.com/CJsBkRb.png

Stadium:

https://i.imgur.com/IiFppK5.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ar%C3%ADas.jpg

https://www.emporis.com/images/show/...-stadium-e.jpg

Budgets:

https://i.imgur.com/xBA1OmH.png

Table:

https://i.imgur.com/PtObAK9.png

I'm going to stay with the club for a full season too as this season only has 6 games remaining.

Seems like a cracking little club Mahow. Decent youth facilities too.

They've got money (£1.6m) too.

I might even stay until I win the North American Champions League.

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They've got money (£1.6m) too.

I might even stay until I win the North American Champions League.

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I legitimately thought that meant 1.6m in debt, rather than actual parentheses. I might need a break.

Olimpia used to be one of my go to clubs for regens when I managed mid-level clubs (or top clubs in mid-level leagues).

Offered the Italy job, realised every single player was a regen and got the urge to ditch the game and start again in the present day. Not sure who to start with this time

https://i.imgur.com/vpRIArH.jpg

For my next game I have 4 players injured and 3 away on international duty. All of them midfielders.

@wullie: I've always been a fan of Journeyman games, although I understand it's not for everyone. Other than that, you could start with someone really low (custom leagues).

Edit: I guess both these options mean you'll end up in seasons where regens dominate though, so I guess you're back to square one.

I'm ok with regens if they've come through for a team I've played as throughout as they don't feel like a big pile of made-up names as much, but the further I get in to a game the less the idea of moving clubs appeals.

Then you can probably just grab some custom leagues that go way down the league structure in a country, pick a club and try and go all the way up?

Yeah. Take St Helens Town from tier ten to Premier League and Chanpions League glory. :cool2:

I did get Nuneaton Town up to the Championship once, might go super local and pick Cov Sphinx who play two streets away from me. They've got the glamour covered too, one of their players also does those Ex On The Beach bullshit programmes on TV.

The problem with those is that every season is piss easy until you hit League Two.

I've taken Hitchin to Champions League glory on an old game which wasn't too bad as it they were level 7.

Tried it with a level 21 or 22 and only lasted 2 or 3 seasons as it was awful.

I'd personally not go any lower than 8 unless the club means something to you.

I've gone completely unoriginal and started a Roma game like I always do after Cov. Next Ajax, then just frit around with games I give up on until FM 19.

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I did get Nuneaton Town up to the Championship once, might go super local and pick Cov Sphinx who play two streets away from me. They've got the glamour covered too, one of their players also does those Ex On The Beach bullshit programmes on TV.

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I think they're sponsored by a quite average football podcast I once listened to for a few months.

Quick end of season update:

https://i.imgur.com/xOTnCua.png

https://i.imgur.com/IHlRDdC.png

Closing stage standings:

https://i.imgur.com/mh2Jt6b.png

Closing stage final:

https://i.imgur.com/2U2E7WB.png

https://i.imgur.com/bAVQDkz.png

I'm so pissed off, we missed so many chances in those two legs. Also their second goal in the second leg was such a cock. My keeper saved the penalty, saved a rebound but then they put the second rebound in.

Promising signs for next season though. £2m in the bank and I've already secured some cheap but promising youth for when the window opens. I've also had one of my forrins get naturalised so I only have 2 first team foreigners but can use 4.

As a teaser, I will say that the cheap youth (4 of them for a combined £26k) are all 4* gold with the 5th star black potentials.

I'm playing the Man City U23s on the Checkatrade thingy, and their starting 11 includes Sergio Ramos, Van Ginkel, Sane and Aguero (who's even carrying an injury). :moop:

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The problem with those is that every season is piss easy until you hit League Two.

I've taken Hitchin to Champions League glory on an old game which wasn't too bad as it they were level 7.

Tried it with a level 21 or 22 and only lasted 2 or 3 seasons as it was awful.

I'd personally not go any lower than 8 unless the club means something to you.

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Finding this to be true. St Helens Town are in tier ten and we’re upto League Two in about eight seasons (I think) but it looks like I’ll never escape League Two. :uhoh:

Ask to become a feeder club for a higher division team.

Loans are your friend.

Even without a parent club, it's easy to secure high quality players on a loan for free really.

I want to win league titles. I need assurances that we will win the league.
We can do it this season
Not soon enough, sell me.

Why bother telling me what you want if nothing will help?

I've made a BEAST team of youngsters. They were all out on loan last season, going to keep them at home and see what they can do in the u23 League this season before hopefully promoting a few the season after.

Developing youngsters :drool:

Oh I also put in a cheeky enquiry for Ousmane Dembele since he was one of the only players I could find who might realistically improve the team, even if Martins had been extremely good (also I get bored and have to buy someone).

They rejected it, he got in a strop, got him for £90m and sold Martins for the same.

I need a Honduran WBR so I've put my scouts on it.

37 rating is the highest so far ffs.

I've already bought one foreign wing back, I really don't want to have to buy another.

https://i.imgur.com/i4f34ZD.png

RL, how does someone get concussed by jumping?

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Ask to become a feeder club for a higher division team.

Loans are your friend.

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Yep.

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https://i.imgur.com/i4f34ZD.png

RL, how does someone get concussed by jumping?

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Standing under a low bridge?

Landing poorly.

Checkatrade final and 3 of my 4 first XI defenders are unavailable. :moop:

New plan: Outscore the other team.

Transfers out:

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Transfers in:

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Wesley Alex:

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Alexandr Andreev:

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Kevin Ellis:

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Vladimir Ryzhakov:

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Jose Martinez:

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Ruben Murillo:

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Francisco Andino:

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Jonathan Marin:

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Johnny Arzu:

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Kevin Alvarez:

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David Lopez:

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Christopher Raudales:

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Jose Rivera:

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Quite a lot in but I really wanted to try and get the squad a bit younger and I'm pleased with what I've got. Murillo and Wesley Alex are the ones that can make a real difference this season as they're far better than what we have. It was also important that we kept these two:

https://i.imgur.com/tLGIksd.png

https://i.imgur.com/PCKm0EY.png

Shandong were going hard for Ruiz but they ended their interest and he quickly settled down. Delgado though was subject to offers from big clubs (Tottenham were the biggest) but luckily I gave him a contract before he got pissed off. Those two (along with Murillo) are the best Hondurans at the club so it was crucial that we kept them. Also no release clauses in either of their contracts too so they're here for the long haul.

https://i.imgur.com/myTrsbT.png

That must be one of the most dominant seasons I've ever had in this game. Given our form last season and the improvements I made in the squad I expected us to challenge for the automatic promotion spots, but we just demolished the league with ease. We scored 4 or more goals in 14 games, including a majestic 7-1 win at Yeovil. I have to feel a bit bad for Coventry who spent like 25 straight weeks in the automatic promotion spots and only needed just 1 point from their last game, but, unfortunately for them, that game was against us and we beat them 4-0 at their place.

On top of that we won the Checkatrade Trophy, beating five League One teams in the process.

Here's the squad stats:

https://i.imgur.com/pRTJwUa.png

Khoury, Aarons and Barnes all smashed it playing from the wing, but I'm more proud of Stephens who I decided to give a chance to after the other strikers failed to impress. While he needed a few games to get going, once he started, he didn't stop.

I'm thinking of staying another season, as I believe we have what it takes to comfortably stay up. It will be my last season at the club no matter what, and I will be on the lookout for any interesting jobs that might open in the meantime.
Edit: I got offered an interview by Volendam (they just got relegated from the Eredivisie) and it looks attractive.

https://i.imgur.com/h7iJ5aN.png

Shocked...

https://i.imgur.com/9djDpr5.png

Maybe he was shocked that I didn't take away any of his wages.

This is the squad available to me for my next match:

https://i.imgur.com/xrLUNY0.png

This is my unavailable list:

https://i.imgur.com/MiQSRTR.png
https://i.imgur.com/D7pPBtN.png

And it can't be rescheduled :\

Clearly your fault for not registering those half/one star guys.

Edit: I just saw you can request that the board reduce the compensation demands if you want to sign for another club. How long has that been there (I don't remember the last time I wasn't hired because of high compensation)?

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RL, how does someone get concussed by jumping?

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For what it's worth (and even though the post was made half jokingly) I just had the same thing and a player of the other team got injured at the same time so I'm assuming it's a collision on the air.

I've just had my 4th one this season.

I'm going for low bridge just above the playing surface.

3 Transfers in during the window:

https://i.imgur.com/V7guWak.png

Freebie and another winger come striker who isn't great at finishing. It seems to be working for me though.

https://i.imgur.com/EQ7ribZ.png

£135k which is a tad too much for him but I am trying to hoover up any half decent Honduran.

https://i.imgur.com/0gaZY6z.png

A striker with actual finishing! I could only secure a loan for him as Corinthians want £41.5m for him which is a little out of our budget right now.

https://i.imgur.com/2cHYn2p.png

https://i.imgur.com/WmYlEM0.png

Quite happy with that.

I'm apparently heavy favourites for the Swansea job, a full 2 leagues above my current post. And that's a few months after I was rejected by Dundalk and St Johnstone and stuff. :cab:

When do we expect the data update?

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When do we expect the data update?

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1st week of March usually.

Still can't find this on the shelves here. It's a disgrace. All I want is a Steam key.

Is there a reason you aren't just buying it from Steam?

No credit card.

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No credit card.

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You can do it with a debit one.

Or PayPal.

Bank transfer too.

Love all these people thinking they understand how Swiss Banking law works.

Debit Cards can't be used online here. Privacy. I can pay them 70 quid a month to upgrade my account to a public-facing one but fat chance I'm doing that to buy a video-game once every 6 months.

What about the Steam gift cards you can get in-store in places?

Don't get them over here. XBox, PS, Nintendo, sure but I guess PC gaming is for big ol' nerds.

No, there's absolutely no way. You just don't understand Switzerland Wullie.

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No, there's absolutely no way. You just don't understand Switzerland Wullie.

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They literally do not sell them. I'm going to have to ask for my parents credit card at 29. Embarrassing.

I bet they take Nazi gold.

Don't we all.

I just got a news item saying that my reserves have won the league again. I thought it was a little early so I checked their results:

https://i.imgur.com/wVyNjO5.png

26 wins out of 26, 131 goals scored and 18 conceded. Heroes.

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No credit card.

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Can you do a bank transfer?

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Love all these people thinking they understand how Swiss Banking law works.

Debit Cards can't be used online here. Privacy. I can pay them 70 quid a month to upgrade my account to a public-facing one but fat chance I'm doing that to buy a video-game once every 6 months.

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This doesn't sound any less ridiculous than it did last time you mentioned it about a year ago. I'd move.

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They literally do not sell them. I'm going to have to ask for my parents credit card at 29. Embarrassing.

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If only there was a way to apply for a credit card.

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If only there was a way to apply for a credit card.

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He'd be worse than Magic with one.

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If only there was a way to apply for a credit card.

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Lol yeah, as a functioning alcoholic that's starting to notice a rather nasty coke habit, I definitely have the self restraint to not murder myself via debt.

No, it affects my ability to get coke when I don't have the money for it.

What are you considering 'nasty' there. If it isn't more than twice a week you'll be fine.

if I was doing it for twice a week I'd put myself in a clinic.

I nipped it in the bud when I got to doing it every weekend. I found it affected my mental health far more than anything else I've ingested.

Physical health as well actually. Proper exhaustion for days after the event.

Its not a habit unless you're dead from it

Give me the money and I'll gift it on Steam.

How?

Ask your Mum for her chequebook.

Post it to him.

@phonics I’ve got £25 in my steam wallet from selling cards and items, so you can have it now and figure out paying me later if you’re really stuck.

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How?

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Post it to me in whatever passes for pennies over there.

Honestly, no idea. Find a way that doesn't involve me giving my bank account to an alcoholic and I'll do it.

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@phonics I’ve got £25 in my steam wallet from selling cards and items, so you can have it now and figure out paying me later if you’re really stuck.

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I don't understand, how do you get affiliate money from that?

Fancy not trusting the guy who SAVED THE BOARD :nono:

EDIT: was aimed at disco but it kinda still works.

Oh I'd do it for SvN in a heartbeat.

Here's my team of children.

My scouts assure me they will all be monsters so we'll see:

Squad/reports:

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Olimpia 2021/2022 review:

League:

https://i.imgur.com/mlNINoq.png

https://i.imgur.com/tBqUw9M.png

Opening stage wasn't a challenge at all.

https://i.imgur.com/q6CDRz8.png

https://i.imgur.com/MwxKB26.png

But the closing stage was even easier.

Domestic cup:

https://i.imgur.com/gLABDJZ.png

We're so far ahead of everyone else in the country.

Continental:

https://i.imgur.com/wRtNRRU.png

Thought we'd have more trouble but yeah. Almost shat myself in the first leg as we gave away penalties in the 88th and 94th minutes to make it a little shaky.

https://i.imgur.com/Vebhl3b.png

The 9-2 second leg semi final is probably the best result I've had in a knockout continental game. My Russian lad scored 5 and should have had more. I didn't think we'd win it this year, I thought it would take another year at least.

Team stats:

https://i.imgur.com/L2lEf4R.png

https://i.imgur.com/k5SxTZ5.png

https://i.imgur.com/XmkfgcZ.png

Our front 4 (3 are played and Ryzhakov wasn't registered for the league) were absolutely incredible. 55 goals and 28 assists in 53 games for Ruiz, 49 goals and 27 assists in 53 games for Alex, 20 goals and 14 assists in 21 games for Ryzhakov and 19 goals and 14 assists in 23 games for Henrique. Madness.

I was planning on staying another season at least but with the league being an absolute cake walk and as I've already captured continental glory it's time to move on. I'm going to miss the club and players (I will hopefully bring some with me) a lot though.

And I've just had my shortest job search. I was eyeing up the Newcastle job but the dickheads hired a different Greek in Giorgios Donis, as such I was left with my second choice:

https://i.imgur.com/4H7LhdH.png

First team squad:

https://i.imgur.com/wdY2arq.png

Ante Coric :cool:

Our key player according to our club screen:

https://i.imgur.com/Y6Bz4rv.png

Our hot prospect:

https://i.imgur.com/Iz28SaH.png

Stadium:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...simir_2011.jpg

http://gnkdinamo.hr/Repository/2016/9/stadion1.jpg

Budgets:

https://i.imgur.com/9Sfwtf6.png

Board expectations:

https://i.imgur.com/b92qcsM.png

I wanted to come to Europe following my time in North America and I like where I've landed a lot and I will be staying here until I win the Champions league.

The scene of John's favourite save iirc, quality club with youth prospects out the arse.

Almost a bit of a shame you donned Honduras so quickly. Would have been nice to see some of those players develop a bit.

Winning the CL with Dinamo sounds like a fairly tall order (don't think John managed it? But then again he wasn't buying players in).

FM18 is easier too.

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I don't know, FM17 was by far the easiest I've played. This one does seem easy too though.

Dinamo is like cheating. They are such a properly run club that you have to fuck up majorly not to succeed. And them regens. :drool:

Winter update is out. Changes: http://www.footballmanager.com/news/...n=winterupdate

I've just lost 5-4 in Marseille in the Europa playoff. What I wouldn't give to shit out a 1-0 now :drool:

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I've just lost 5-4 in Marseille in the Europa playoff. What I wouldn't give to shit out a 1-0 now :drool:

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I don't know what it is, but I typically have problems shitting out narrow wins in scenarios like that. I'll either like lose or win by 3 goals.

3 fucking 1 :cool:

All 7 goals in the tie from Cummins too. That tactic posted a while back by someone (a Man U one) is unreal at this level.

I'll take a loss up to 3 goals or a score draw. I always get nervy if I have a narrow win after the first leg.

Oh and it's great when a new signing scores a hattrick on his debut.

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3 fucking 1 :cool:

All 7 goals in the tie from Cummins too. That tactic posted a while back by someone (a Man U one) is unreal at this level.

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Probably RL's, or the 4123 I posted on FMBase

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Probably RL's, or the 4123 I posted on FMBase

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Think it was the latter. It's basically cheating :drool:

Think that's the first full season I've done. It's not officially over yet as I've Galatasary in the 1st Europa knockout in two months and I still have to finish the Scottish Challenge Cup too.


Transfers

https://i.imgur.com/9DtPgre.png



Season Review

https://i.imgur.com/28s3R34.png



Results

https://i.imgur.com/IAJNWGd.png



Squad Stats

https://i.imgur.com/b2yXFyn.png



The two main men

https://i.imgur.com/B1VJKFJ.png


https://i.imgur.com/Ufa63sq.png



And a young regen who went straight into the side when he appeared at 16. Won't sign but is already getting watched for a senior international call-up. Savage player for this level.

https://i.imgur.com/CEBLvnp.png

Transfers in:

https://i.imgur.com/OpABkXC.png

Transfers out:

https://i.imgur.com/SwUm0jE.png

Toplak:

https://i.imgur.com/YJZV3pH.png

Signed before I came.

https://i.imgur.com/UcP14DE.png

I couldn't stay away from Olimpia and I only got the three I got as they had release clauses in their contracts. A little expensive for Andreev but my scouts have him at 4*/5* potential.

https://i.imgur.com/dRlNkwA.png

Alex was the one that I had to have (and he scored a hattrick on his debut), they guy is class and I may have agreed to put a clause in his deal when I knew I'd be moving.

https://i.imgur.com/cQG6wen.png

He's very raw and I wasn't sure if I'd bring him along but my scouts are really high on him.

https://i.imgur.com/KkrvKRe.png

18 and already slightly better than my other options at CB. He is going to be special.

Euro Cup:

https://i.imgur.com/Q7AuL47.png

Easy enough, although I did think that Hamburg would trouble as more than they did.

Here is our group:

https://i.imgur.com/Gv46b7M.png

Davor Lovren was brilliant for me. Think I sold him to Arsenal for five or six times that.

I did slap on a 50% next sale clause.

He does look good but I just don't play wingers (5-2-3) so I'd have to convert him to a striker or a wingback where he'd be wasted. So it was just a case of getting him, Boldas, Agra and Savarino out before they started moaning bringing the rest of the team down.

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Still can't find this on the shelves here. It's a disgrace. All I want is a Steam key.

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Found it at a mom & pop independent store :cool:

Now to decide who to play before abandoning that game for another save I'll abandon. Did anyone elses copy come with a massive poster tellling you the difference between a 4-2-3-1 and a 4-1-3-2?