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With Theresa May being a total Quisling, with Labour being run by a second rate Commy, with the Lib Dems being the standard joke, and with the SNP doing anything to screw us over, it's time for The Brexit Party to smash them all and get us out like we were promised.
UKIP, alas have gone the way of The National Front. Onwards and upwards with the great Nigel, and lets's get out like we were promised.
Who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Edited. You are correct.
Does this mean Harold is alive?
It was always The National Front with a coat of paint, all these parties are. That's who you are, the posh side of The Front. Embrace it or change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
No, but it might make you rethink your ideas vis-a-vis the league title.
@Giggles
Never was under Nigel. UKIP were the only party to specifically ban any member of a far right organization. Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Who do you think they were voting for? This Gerard Batten bloke was a member of the party while 'Nigel' was in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Just admit that your vision of England (because let's also admit that like all the other parties, you don't give a fuck about N. Ireland/Wales/Scotland) is what The Front want.
I'll vote for it, but it needs to fold sooner rather than later or get absorbed into a reformed/rebuilt Conservative Party, because Nigel Farage being in the news all the time isn't great for the cause.
Gerard was in the Anti-Federalist League, which was a Euro Sceptic party, and nothing else. I have met him. The guy lives in cloud-cuckoo land. Once again, no memeber of a far right organization could ever have joined UKIP.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
I reckon getting the likes of 'Sargon of Akkad' involved is loller than anything Gerard Batten actually believes. An absolute classic of the old people trying to connect with young people genre, second only to that shithouse agenda Labour have got to revitalise the bollocks high street.
Do you think The National Front broadly agree with your policies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
@Lewis
The MSM hate him because he goes against the grain. Remember, The EU (or Common Market as we were led to believe) was formed by bankers, is run by bankers, and is regulated by bankers.
And bankers were the cause of this country going bankrupt 10 years back. Why anyone would vote to remain, literally beggars belief.
Where can I purchase a pair of rose tinted glasses as good as yours, Chin?
That is a question for them. But The Brexit party certainly do not agree with the National Front's racist policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Alas I don't have Jeremy Corbyn's home address, but I'm sure you could always email him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Yet despite this, The EU (note the EU, not the Eurozone) have done more anti-capitalist shit than any other government in modern history...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Who brought Microsoft to court over monopoly standards in the early 00's?
Who has banned GM foods?
Who introduced the only internet privacy bill? (while the UK government is hoovering up your deets to stop you watching porn)
Who forced Ireland to take 15 billion quid from Apple and put it into their own coffers?
etc. etc.
The UN is shit and has huge amounts of flaws, doesn't mean I think we should blow it up.
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Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Pathetic level of copout.
Farage? You can't knock his part in getting the vote in the first place, but every bit of relevant polling says he puts off as many people as he attracts (who would more than likely vote that way anyway), so if it comes down to his party having to win an election for us to leave then it isn't happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
We should definitely blow the United Nations up. And NATO.
No thanks I’m good with us not going to war every 12 years.
Consider me on board.
Your first point is nullified due to the fact that sovereignty should not have been taken away from countries without a vote. Brown sold us out. By the way, most of those policies would have been introduced by soveriegn European nations given the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Your second point is a total cop out on your behalf. It is a valid point so answer it.
I'm not knocking Nigel, far from it. Just pointing out that the MSM have done everything in their power to make him out to be a reincarnation of Hitler. He is a good guy, and a good laugh to boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Quite possibly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Im really not up to speed with politics at all. If someone asked me what the deal is with brexit, I wouldnt even know what to say.
'You' voted to enter the European Union. In the European Parliament, where the 4 things I mentioned were brought to the European Commission because of issues raised by MEPS. The MEP that you vote for to represent you. What does Gordon Brown have to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Just because the French and the Germans bother to organise their MEPs to vote for what they want doesn't make it unfair, it just shows how utterly shit the UK civil service has been for decades.
You say these policies would be introduced by sovereign nations. I literally mentioned an example where the EU introduced privacy laws while the UK is going to make you sign up to a list to watch online pornography (without voting on it) so how does that math work?
On the second point, I'm not a registered member of a party, doesn't stop me agreeing/voting/donating money to one. Tommy Robinson might not have been a UKIP member but I bet you a blue passport he voted for them.
Not even the politicians know.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Aye. Have you seen the video where the UKIP 'gatekeeper' puts him right in his place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Chinny is back.
Has Nigel hot any ideas for implementing brexit or is the focus on the bus?
As usual with these idiots it's a load of bluster and guff rather than anything pragmatic and concrete. They've had years to get together some kind of detailed outline of what they actually mean by this stuff but never get further than "dey took err jerbs" levels of wailing.
Focus is probably on another cushty 5 year salary and perks number.
When the UK ends up staying in it's going to have the most ragtag bunch of misfits for MEPs ever seen. It's a proper chancer's charter at the moment to get yourself set for life.
Not sure where to even start with this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinny Hill
Top boy the artist formerly known as Tommy Robinson is running as an MEP in the North West. Funny how they're all wadded by this waffle from American nut jobs. But taking back control etc etc
Even by your low standards this is complete drivel.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
No he's absolutely right. That's why everyone on the left is Tony Blair. Not like him, actually Tony Blair.
You realize regulation helps big business right, because they can scale the costs more effectively relative to small and medium-sized competition? Why do you think the Democrat Party in the US is overwhelmingly supported by Silicone Valley / Wall Street?Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
No shit, really? All these years walking this earth and I’d never realised this. Thank god you’re here to enlighten.
Btw it’s the Democratic Party.
The Radical Left Democrats.
“Regulation” doesn’t help any business with its bottom line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
I could tell you why Silicon Valley is full of Democrats, and it’s not that.
I find it hard to believe Wall Street is full of Democrats.
Is “Silicone Valley” the porn industry or the plastic surgery industry?
Both Silicon Valley and Wall Street have a pretty significant number of Democrats simply due to geography.
And people who've gone through higher education tend to lean that way.
One of the lads I work with has finished up The Iron Lady. I had a moment where I wondered if Blair would ever get a book / movie effort like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
How about increased market share because of diminished competition and lack of upward pressure from smaller companies?Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
So you realize regulation then that regulation isn't necessarily "anti-capitalist" so much as (likely) "pro-crony capitalist / corporatism"? Glad we are in agreement bruh.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Democrats dominate in the wealthiest most unequal zipcodes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewd.../#12b178da6c9b
Wall Street's campaign contributions flowing mostly to Democrats:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wall-st...-for-congress/
Why Wall Street loves Hillary:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...hillary-112782
And also those with the lowest education and income.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
On face value this is definitely true in some sectors, though not in all - environmental regulations for instance definitely hurt more the bigger you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
You’ll note that a lack of regulation will also result in a steady accretion of power by the largest businesses, without the oversight needed to at least make them function in a socially acceptable manner.
Yes, this is what explains why there are not a lot of competitors in a heavily regulated industry like the production of commercial jets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
The regulatory pressures are the significant hurdle. Costs are increased but it is at best the 10th most important thing. Significant regulatory infrastructure is more likely a signal of an industry with a lot of sunk costs.
I mean, regulatory capture as the defining corporate issue in Silicon Valley? Really?
I said they'd done more of 'x' not that they are 'x'. Reading appears to be as much of a struggle as forming an interesting thought. Do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
If this were true, why is it big business that supports regulations and government intervention the moment they acquire significant market share?Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
See: https://reason.com/1971/09/01/free-e...nd-the-monopo/
That's the claim anyways, in reality it's a ploy by big business to justify ossification of the market, with the result being stifled innovation and increased costs (and much easier coordination in the long-run among legacy firms with each other).Quote:
Originally Posted by mikem
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Originally Posted by Bartholomert
Among the absolute hogwash in that article, this was my favorite bit.Quote:
(3) no harm comes from the private ownership of an industry even by one or a few
Reason is one of those weirdo libertarian blogs. The only thing they’re good on is drugs and asset forfeiture. Apart from that they’re nutjobs.
These people all got bullied at 13 and turned to Ayn Rand for solace. I know the type.
I chose a simplistic article because the arguments you were making were simplistic :sorry:Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
I don't know a single emotionally-balanced masculine male who doesn't have little l libertarian impulses among a broader set of conservative views. Liberal men adopt what they perceive to be socially popular positions to impress women (because they aren't getting laid and aren't traditionally attractive), because don't have the self-assurance or ability to think for themselves, usually mixed with resentment due to their inferior socio-economic position.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
I can make meaningless generalizations too.
We're well aware of that. It's all you did for about four years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
That just sounded like a closeted cry for help masked by a bunch of political babble.
mokkers disdainfully observing the habits of teenage dweebs, rolling his eyes, and then coming on here pretending to be a Czech tennis coach and making up miscarriages.
I’m glad I did that instead of becoming an angsty libertarian
The claim you made was that Silicon Valley and Wall Street we’re full of Democrats because something something cribbed from Ben Shapiro something. Increasing the number of syllables doesn’t make it any smarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartholomert
What exactly is the evidence of all these Silicon Valley business that were relying on muscling out their competition through regulatory capture? Or are you thinking Amazon has outlawed the sale of books or online retailing? Perhaps Netflix has been pushing anti-theater legislation? Of course, Uber and Lyft did ....
Oh wait, you say - the majority of plays in the industries you originally cited act in the exact opposite way? But, of course, we all know that hedge funds have been pushing for increased regulation for decades to keep out competition. It really shouldn’t be too surprising there are a lot of Democrats in Wall Street, New York and Silicon Valley, California. But please, can someone on #team engineer come up with a suitably fancy way to say “move the goalposts”.
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I'm quoting this again because of this article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...buse-boys.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Out. Standing.
Paul Joseph Watson was knocking about with them at one point as well, but he doesn't appear to have taken it any further. Shame. Could have done with him and his weird American doing a Brian Clough impression voice knocking on doors with a pop-up map.
https://www.europeanfreedom.com/wp-c...ula-sargon.jpg
It's like a Mount Rushmore of 'Free Speech'.