Sancho to Utd?!
Mbappe to Liverpool?!
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Sancho to Utd?!
Mbappe to Liverpool?!
Discuss.
You're the seer, you tell us
Man keep that shit in that thread lmao
Time for Randrew to do some actual essential work.
OK then...
Hot take.
Is he on a plane yet?
What are you retards even on about, I'm just posting confirmation of a transfer in the transfers thread.
Triggered. :drool:
Mahow grinding any joke into the ground through repetition is worse than any transfer tier list
So much of our business hinges on the takeover being done. A process that might genuinely exceed lockdown at this rate.
Ighalo loan extension seems agreed
...or that they need to replace Cavani, who he's a far more natural comparison for?
If Mbappe goes to Liverpool I'll eat Taz's pube sandwich.
Kinky.
oK bOoMeR
I don't subscribe to that rubbish as it's too generic but I'd be more of a Xennial.
Why would Liverpool even want to go down that route?
Beats me. Didn't even turn up in Russia.
From the ITKs:
Ighalo loan extension agreed, expect to be announced soon
Sancho price agreed with Dortmund
Interested in Rodon from Swansea
Its just Giggs pushing the Welsh players.
I thought Rondon could do better than Swansea but turns out it's Aaron Ramsey's 22 year-old brother turning out at CB, sleeve tattoos and all :D At least they're starting to get more realistic than Jadon "knows the club" Sancho.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...r-joe-11143770
"Welsh John Stones" :\
If Milan sign a Burnley midfieder on a free the pandemic won't be the most out of the ordinary thing to have happened this year.
Fam, no one cares.
Get back to me when your imaginary Mbappe transfer comes to fruition.
You can tell 'Don' is a new around here.
Sancho fee to be third highest ever paid, which would make it 115 to 120m pounds. #itk
Any word on Ighalo?
When do we expect Gaitan to sign?
Does the Sancho fee include a clause for a Balon D'or win?
£5 million bonus for a Ballon d'Or, £10 million for a Grammy, and £18 million if he's retweeted by LeBron James or has a Netflix documentary made about him.
Sancho is happening. Stay mad nerds.
Nah, he's balancing out our midfield. He's the only man that can keep up with Saint-Maximim.
And they all fail to Adama. Stay in your lane.
I'm struggling to see where all of these football teams are finding the cash for mega money deals this summer.
I know right? It's almost unheard of to see football clubs act financially irresponsibly.
I know they *can* but not usually on a backdrop of mass refunds and potential half filled stadiums due to covid19.
United (or any team) spending a nine figure sum on a footballer is just not going to happen until we are well clear of covid.
The talk is probably agents spinning a yarn.
Nicaraguan bumbag sponsorships, mate.
Covid will, absolutely certainly, depress the entire football economy (which has been in a tulip boom as it is). TV rights values were plateauing anyway and will now drop hard, especially if there are no or few fans in grounds for an extended period. If United want to dump £110 million on Jadon Sancho, they no doubt have the funds to do so but they will quickly find he is worth £60 million in six months' time. Why would you make that business decision?
If they thought he would make THAT much of a different, they're not planning to sell him ever and are liquid enough then they might.
Not saying it's a good idea but if United are one of a few who still have money to throw about I'm guessing they'd try and get a leg up with a relative lack of competition.
And if transfer genius Ed Woodward thinks it's a good idea who am I to argue?
The Premier League should just sell the rights themselves. Online season pass for $100. 50m people sign up - $5bn-a-season. Easy peasy.
If they do that then there's an onus on them to spend to produce their own programming.
Hassenhuttl has just signed a new four year deal. This is fantastic news.
There were rumours doing the rounds thay we needed to sell 5 or more first team players just to balance the books. Apparently there is a law in place to stop our Chinese owner investing any of his money in the club.
Cant be as bad as people think if the manager has signed up for another four years.
Matty Longstaff's had an offer from Udinese.
I'll look forward to him turning out for Watford.
If I was Matty, I'd be disappointed in that. Still bumping up from £800 a week to £30k is class.
Werner to Chelsea according to Blid. Liverpool tried to get the government to pay their wages, no danger they’re paying £60m so it makes sense.
Leipzig flapping.
Liverpool think they can get him for cheaper once the transfer window opens, so trying to push us into paying the clause(expires in 10 days I believe).
It's a steal for Chelsea if it does happen however.
I can't personally see why Liverpool wouldn't bid. He's very publicly flirted with us and we haven't signed anyone besides Minamino since summer 2018, whilst taking in record TV money etc. I can't believe the money wouldn't be there.
A quick Google suggests it cost them £1bn all-in. This was done on the basis it became a hub for other sports(NFL and Rugby made agreements to play matches there), along with a concert venue.
I'd say COVID has fucked them there.
I'd take Ings back over Werner. Pace merchant in a league with no intent to defend. No thanks.
In a rather bleak sign of the times, Gateshead's fans are tying to bolster their transfer funds from crowdfunding.
Chelsea signing Werner would be some serious expenditure on top of Ziyech. Speaking of him, have they binned things off in the Netherlands and does that mean he can sign for Chelsea and play for them when things resume or is the transfer window on hiatus at the moment? Chuck in Pulisic and that's about €150m on 3 flouncy attackers from leagues of dubious merit.
I prefer those type of signings. Raid the best players from the teams in the tier(s) below.
Its better than bringing in 'used to be ok Philip Coutinho' or 'scored goals for 10 years and might be about to expire Edison Cavani'
I don't understand how we have the moolah to be flinging £60 million at Leipzig.
You're ran by a Russian oligarch.
Marina has Chelsea as the best run team by a fair bit in the league. They rarely ever make losses and even with horrible signings they seem to recoup the money.
She’ll make another big signing or two whilst the majority of the other clubs do nothing.
They've definitely got some sort of network they can fall back on when they need to sell Oscar for £60m or get Real to stump up insane money for a player running out of contract.
On that point, the 'big 2' in Spain haven't half had some shockers in recent seasons.
I've no real idea about Werner, but £49m doesn't seem majorly mad even in these 'new normal' times.
What the sweet fuck is Werner going to do at ours barely getting minutes off the bench behind Harvey Elliot and Naby? Go destroy your career under Lamps, lad.
I felt like Long had been at Southampton for about a million years. So to check and see it's only 6 was quite odd. It does feel like he always scores against Liverpool too.
The more I dig into Liverpool journo Twitter, it seems like it's a done deal to Chelsea. Liverpool won't pay the clause. Can't pretend I'm not disappointed as I like him a lot, but the place would get very cluttered with Origi and Minamino there with Elliott to squeeze in as well.
Is minamino a real name or one of those silly nicknames that all players seem to have now (firmino)?
Real name.
Takumi Minamino.
He was surely just number 1 replacement for one of the front three leaving and COVID has prevented that so he can take his dull Aryan self away from these ends. If he could somehow get Leipzig to take Mini off our hands, I'd also be grateful as I've got no time for Asians outside the motherland.
Someone's just reminded me of AFCON next year ffs. Jurgen out.
It'll get called off, right? :uhoh:
Nope.
Qualification matches get back under way at the end of August.
Firmino is Bobby.
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Chelsea are balls deep in for Chilwell. I honestly think he's dogshit.
Yeah he’s a pretty average performer. As with Maguire not overly bothered to see him go as long as we get more than he’s worth and replace well. Managed to improve after Maguire and got £80m so not expecting that again but who knows.
I'm all for it. Delivers a decent ball, should be good for 5+ years, and also I've been watching Marcos Alonso for what seems like half my adult life so it would be nice to watch us have a left back rather than a left knee on skis.
Not sure if he takes Alonso's place in the dreamy eyes XI, it's a close run thing. Werner's addition could be a blow to the franchise if it denies Giroud valuable dreamy eyes pitch time.
It seems a bit odd to be in for him if it’s going to be anything over £60m. It’s not like there’s a lack of English players to fill that quota.
Twitter sez they’re still after Havertz too. Should be more worried about a centre half.
He has a release clause of £54m.
City must be sniffing around for a leftback so you'd have to think the money for Chilwell will be insane.
Sounds like the Van De Beek stuff has legs. He was all but off to Madrid but something seems to have happened and Ajax has offered him to us.
If it goes through it'll see me lose my bet over Grealish I imagine but I'm all for it.
Van de Beek has flop and loan move to Turkey in a couple of years written all over him.
Does he know the club?
I believe the talk is Madrid is backing out of it because Covid's hit them hard and they're having second thoughts.
I've heard they asked him to wait til next summer and he and Ajax have got fed up with Madrid's dallying and offered him to us. If Real pull their finger out he may well still go there.
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I've heard from my sources that he's coming to England. Motwyw.
Do they even use full backs?
Inverse wingers.
They buy at least one big ticket fullback every year for some reason. They can biff Zinchenko to Leicester as part of the deal. They paid god knows what for Iheanacho so I'd imagine they'd be well up for one of those not-at-all suss we'll buy X for Y and you buy Z for ? (profit!) deals.
I have no idea what Joao Cancelo does, but I think he's a rightback. Mendy can't be relied upon.
They won the league with Zinchenko and then they bought some bald Spaniard whose name not so much escapes me as just isn't in my head to begin with.
Yeah and I'm sure my abs would look good in an abattoir.
Especially with how teams play, attacking full backs in the Bundesliga look incredible.
As do pacy wingers who get 50 yards of space to run into behind the absurdly high lines, not that anyone would be stupid enough to overpay for Jadon Sancho.
Lol at thinking Sancho is some brainless pace merchant.
Indeed not, but then, was Ousmane Dembele?
Nobody mentioned brains, just pace and space afforded.
Chelsea bidding £75m for Havertz according to the papers. Roman is back :drool:
He bought Munch's 'The Scream' the other day for only slightly more than that.
Havertz would be an unbelievable signing for Chelsea. Hope he holds out for Bayern next season instead.
How is this new look Chelsea side lining up?
Hopefully the lure of playing for Super Frankie Binman will outweigh the chance to strap on the, well, the strap-on, and the famous red armband in the dungeon with Max Mosley.
Looking at FC Brian's forward options, they are a little bit light in the futures department, so I suppose they need to wring a few more years out of Muller and Lewandowski. If 'Jan Fiete Arp' was going to Muller his way through the next decade, you'd think he would have started doing so by now.
Can’t work out the best player there. Definitely between Gilmour and James
You ain't going far with that attack-defence distribution of Black Lives.
Jamal Blackman is still on the books so it's probably time for us to make a real statement. Obviously he'll have to let Raheem score past him as a mark of respect, but other than that we'll be sorted.
Is that dutch lad still knocking about?
Van Ginkel...
Gilmour was doing well before the break. Hope he still gets to play.
Wiki suggests he absolutely tore it up for PSV in 17/18 (14 in 28 from midfield) before also then tearing up his knee (for the billionth time).
Poor lad.
What of Ziyech? Signing him and Havertz is all a bit Everton.
I forgot about Ziyech. I guess Havertz will have to start in the reserves.
Havertz is extremely versatile; he can play anywhere in front of the centre midfield essentially (even as a striker).
They'll all be benched at some stage for the industry of Mount.
The German genetic pool is not capable of producing an advanced playmaker.
Presumably this Chelsea transfer policy is a retaliation against all the German teams trying to buy up their young prospects last year.
That said, Werner seems to have gone quiet from being a done deal. That always used to worry me when I was extremely concerned with such matters, stemming from, probably, the Lee Bowyer debacle.
Havertz surely moves to B.Munich.
Real Madrid also stuck in a £72m bid but with the option for Havertz to stay on loan in Leverkusen for a season.
Apparently. Although the commentators were talking about it at the weekend so I imagine it's more than just tabloid bullshit.
All this talk of Germans led me to see that Lewis Holtby is at Blackburn :lol:
Juve are open to selling Ramsey :D
Did he play over there?
He's on 400 grand a week and isn't that good, I would be open to selling him too. Sadly for them not a single club in the world will be open to buying him, so they're stuck with him.
He's played 24 games in all comps.
Ramsey and his agent have masterminded some salary for him there which further proves what ive also thought.
Player A contract is expiring
Instead of Club B paying Club A £40m for Player A
Club B just give Player A £20m once his contract expires
Im not going anywhere.
He's the sort of player that's going to absolutely destroy our offspring's hopes of 'Name the XI' games. 11 years of riding the momentum of that initial 18 year old British prospect hype without really doing or saying anything of note. Simon Davies must be thinking that could have been him.
Cavani and Thaigo Silva will both leave PSG for free
Cavani will go to Atletico I'd have thought. Thiago Silva might have been an interesting short term signing but 35 is probably pushing it even for a centre back who's not some immortal Italian.
I'd take Silva in a heartbeat.
Last stumbling block to agreeing the Sancho deal was around agent fees. It's apparently becoming more and more certain that an agent fee cap will be imposed next year. In response to this the agent involved has substantially lowered their demands, given if he doesn't move til next season they'd get much much less.
Everyone now pushing for it to happen. Fully expecting him to be a United player.
From the ITKs
Ryan Fraser refusing to sign a short extension past 30 June is strange but does mean you have a ready made replacement when Sancho forgets he knows the club.
ITKs have confirmed that Sancho not only knows the club, he also has an excellent memory of the club also so no chance of that.
Yeah just sign a 1 month extension and fuck off a la Lallana and the gang. Only thing I can see him gaining from this is a one month unpaid leave which seems :cab:
I see Jordon Ibe has been set for release, which mid-table Turkish outfit will he join? I reckon Gaziantepspor.
Willian and Pedro also expires in 15 days?
Werner moving to Chelsea has been officially confirmed. £45m, which really doesn't seem like much in the grand scheme of things.
Can't pretend I've watched him much, but I hear Werner is just a pace merchant. I'm going flop.
Hope so.
Predicting a Chelsea striker to be a flop, not exactly Nostradamus stuff. The surgeon is poised.
If Havertz wants his move to Bayern he'll have to wait a year. If he's set on moving this summer it'll be to Chelsea. United and Madrid both showed an interest but not willing to pay the asking price whilst Chelsea are.
#itk
Kezman. :(
Thought he'd carked it there for a moment.
Jude Bellingham's Dad wants whichever club he goes to to sign his brother as well (who is apparently also very highly thought of so it wouldn't just be a charity signing). That's the stumbling block for Dortmund, which is where he wants them to go.
United would be happy to take both, but still looks more likely Dortmund will work it out in the end.
Batshuayi. You forget it has been five years since he scored those goals in france. Besides a short six month stint in dortmund, he is wasting his time.
Ah yes, had overlooked that. Fairplay.
Bellingham is off to Dortmund. Utd more likely to push on with either Grealish or VDB having missed out on him.
Utd been shopping De Gea around but no takers. Would like to sell him and give Henderson the #1. They fear if they allow the two to compete for the shirt next season then De Gea would lose even more value.
Sancho looks all but done at this point. Dortmund made some attempts to get other clubs interested but nobody willing to pay what they want other than Utd. The fee is going to be bonkers.
Utd will try to sign a centre back if they manage to sell Rojo, Smalling and Jones. Smalling looks very likely to be made permanent by Roma; for once we're apparently getting a half decent fee.
No one is taking David Geyer's enormous salary off your hands.
Anyone stupid enough to do so could just go and spaff it on a better 'keeper who doesn't have a recent track record of being absolute shit (Oblak?). Chucking one in the other night is hardly going to help. I suppose you could swap him for Ramsay in some sort of terrible salary amnesty.
Yeah it's not an ideal situation. Perhaps we can still con the retards at PSG or something.
Bellingham fee is about £20m but with a fairly sizeable sell-on clause apparently. With today's crazy fees I honestly expected it to be higher than that.
Actually thinking about Oblak, that could be United's best way out, someone buying him for crazy money and Atletico using whatever they get to fund a move for De Gea - they always seem to spend the money they get from their big fees fairly promptly and spendthriftulously.
What type of player is Bellingham? I refuse to watch youtube videos anymore of players ive never actually saw for a full 90
Central midfielder, although they've played him wide at times. High energy, bit of quality. Looks decent tbf.
The only problem is his name ensures Hey Jude gets belted out way more because football fans have given up trying.
Joe Hart's available on a free...
Dubrakva might be on the market if our new pirate overlords decide to bring in a 400 year old Gianluigi Buffon and that Saudi keeper from the World Cup.
McTomminay signs up to 2025.
Ronaldo wants to leave Juventus. LAFC want him, but NYRB and LA Galaxy also interested - wages is the biggest stumbling block, it would seem. Potential for a future franchise, too (a la #Becks)
Shame he didn’t do it sooner and play for his own team. :drool:
Juve have agreed £70m with Barca for Arthur. SSN
That sounds like there must be some majorly dodgy angle to it.
That'll be Pjanic going the other way then.
Who the fuck is "Arthur"?
I hope it's the cartoon.
Hey!
It's a book-balancing exercise for Barca by the sounds of things.
What is it for Juve though? That man is stealing a living in a top division let alone warranting those moves. The corruptness is glorious.
Barcelona will pay roughly the same for Pjanic after June. It’s money laundering but Juve get the better deal as at least he has age on his side.
Pjanic is actually a top footballer though.
Barcelona are apparently properly crippled financially and it's likely to all fall down in the not too distant future.
Barcelona and terrific deals don’t go hand in hand.
David Luis has extended with Arsenal til the end of the season.
Only this one
Jesus wept.
Lolololol. Get the fuck out of the football threads.
Also, the fact this double-deal is happening would mean there is a signed contract floating around with Barca and Juve's names on it (or else Barca could obviously pocket the £70m and ruin Juve's season). Surely only a matter of time before a leak of this shit so that they can both be fined €50K and we clean our sport.
I'm less convinced by the two Adams now.
Have they done away with the stupid handball rule or has VAR just shafted West Ham for that Spurs opener?
Cedric Soares getting a 4 year deal at Arsenal on the back of not playing a match due to injury is a bit :sherlock:, especially when he'll be 33 at the end of that deal.
Hopefully they are still smoking the funny stuff and bid for Lovren to go along side him. :drool:
Those contract extensions make sense for a team in mid-table.
Cedric getting a four year deal at Arsenal has got to involve the biggest agent back hander in football history.
I wouldnt want him back on a 1 year pay as you play deal.
Cedric is probably on some nice coins too. 200k per week. Easily.
What happened to that other right back they had... Debauchy? Still alive?
he is still out on loan?
I assume these deals are getting done in case the arse falls out of the summer transfer market. I could imagine some players refusing to move because of Covid fears.
Meunier to Dortmund on a free is naughty.
Straight replacement for Hakimi and about as good as they could have hoped.
Hakimi going back to Madrid, or being sold?
Sold or loaned out again it seems.
The Arthur-Pjanic dodgy deal swap thing is confirmed.
Timo Werner is on a fuck tonne of money at Chelsea.
He's destined to flop.
Yeah, Werner’s not gonna be very successful at Chelsea
I’m not claiming conspiracy theory but Arsenal have scored 2 goals since lockdown football started and they’ve both been followed by an immediate drinks break. Surely that is a massive disadvantage?
Who would be disadvantaged?
Seems like the most logical time to do it after a break like that
Aye, same thing happened in the Liverpool game yesterday after the first goal.
They do it during a natural break in play rather than just stopping the game in the middle of an attack or something.
Should be fixed to a time the ball is next out of play after a certain minute.
Should drink the blood of the family of the cunt that came up with that.
It should be EXACTLY half way through each half for maximum lol's when they have to disallow goals that go in 10 milliseconds late or as someone is one on one with the keeper.
Or we should get long spells of possession to deny the opposition the Lucozade they so desperately need.
:D
You sound like the sort of proper football man that Rooney Rule no process exemption is designed to fast track to greatness.
Pedro off to roma for 50k per week seems lite
He's pretty past it these days, so a middling Serie A side seems a good fit.
He's a mid-30s pace merchant, and, you know, there's that dodgy tax thing they do in Italy so the basic wage goes a lot further.
I don’t think Pedro has ever been a pace merchant. Certainly not now anyway.
He's like his own category of player, do they have it in FM? Dentista or something.
Manquillo and Carroll have extended their contracts. Rob Elliot is now a free agent. Mark Gillespie has moved to us on a free so I guess he takes Elliot's spot.
Marco Van Ginkel, he of 2 games in 7 years for Chelsea... Has signed a 12 month extension.
What. An. Agent.
I'd love to see the numbers on Chelsea's loan farm. Does it pay for itself through loan fees, the occasional big money departure and subsidised wages, or do the initial costs of getting the players in in the first place always offset that? Weren't UEFA meant to be cracking down on it as a practice?
Hakimi to Inter for £36m seems a bit of a steal.
The stuff about Guendozi wanting out is true, the stuff about Utd wanting him is obviously not. Thomas Partey will most likely join Arsenal.
Arsenal need a mega clearout. I dont think they have it in them, to make it happen though.
Arsenal need to be wiped out and started again.
Yeah, that last bit is probably it isn't it, and it pays when you shift the likes of the Brazilian pair for insane money to parts unknown. First in line when a new mug comes into the market.
On Arsenal, this is class.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbYLqG0X...jpg&name=large
Pogba will sign a new contract in the next few days.
Highest earner at the club?
What could possibly go wrong.
Think of it as reparations.
Youssoufa Moukoko to Liverpool. :happycry:
Only 420 club appearances in two decades. Stealing a living.
I bet he basically looked like that when he left them at 17 or whatever it was.
The third best player of the decade.
https://twitter.com/TheAnfieldWrap/s...574225923?s=20
Jesus, could you imagine if we took him this summer to compete with Naby for that 4th CM spot? :drool:
KdB being 29 is fucking terrifying.
Partey is both meh and yay, I guess. Meh, he’s 27; he’s good but not exactly on an upwards trajectory (the converse if joining us), he could easily be just a Wolves player; Yay, he’s precisely what we could do with.
I’d happily walk Ghendouzi out of the door, he’s been shite in all but one game this season. High ceiling with lot’s of technical ability and decent athleticism, sure. But he’s a fucking idiot in the footballing and non-footballing sense, constantly giving the ball away. If eejits want to pay 50m for him, snap their hands off (albeit I do have some fondness for him). So, hopefully any one of these big clubs after him think they can turn him into the new Vieira.
At least Tierney is looking good finally, and Pepe is showing good signs of rounding off some of the (largely defensive) edges under Arteta. Nketiah can replace Laca as a no. 2 striker with no issue, especially with Martinelli able to play up front too and Folarin Balogun absolutely knocking on the door. So, he can feck off too (albeit with far more fondness for last season and a wonderful derby goal this campaign). So, hopefully Atletico want him after all.
Leno is player of the season but I’d let him go for the big bucks that his consistency in the past 24 months is surely worth. Emi Martinez has a good run now to stake a claim, and has better distribution. A serviceable keeper who might be very good and £50m to spend on areas where we have naff all Would be grand compensation (full fondness levels, Leno is a don, but we should be pragmatic here) so, hopefully Bayern rumours have a degree of truth.
TLDR; I’d sell almost any one of the saleable assets who don’t look equally difficult to replace (Saka, Tierney, Auba).
Arsenal's four centerbacks of Sokratis, Luiz, Holding and Mustafi kinda may be the worse 4 centerbacks of the top 6 teams.
Holding should perhaps stay, but as 4th choice behind some actual decent defenders.
You have that french guy coming in, right? Saliba or something?
Don't arsenal also have some giant black left-footed youth in their under 23 squad who can also play CB? Promote him and get him playing now
Is Leno seriously injured? I doubt anyone is going to pay big money for him if he is.
Guendouzi is a funny one. He's obviously got some talent, but he doesn't show it nearly enough and struts around like he's the finished article. I wouldn't say he'd be worth risking big money on. It's a good racket to get into though - the completely baseless 'future great' - he must have an excellent agent (probably the same one as Adrien Rabiot).
More Koulibaly rumours, now with Lovren going the other way. Hold me.
Sadly there are many reasons that one isn't going to happen.
Having big hair seems to add 50% to your value/perception of your talents.
Guendouzi is just a french version of Jack Wilshere at the same age.
Angel Gomes looks to be gone from United on a free. Always thought he looked like he had something about him in his few appearances but oh well.
United apparently made a last ditch attempt to get Bellingham but he's off to Dortmund.
Saliba, yes. Him, Chambers and Holding and one more much better CB should be enough.
Mustafi and Sokratis have had good careers with top clubs and international football for a reason. They’re chancers of a kind, but the issues is less of their individual talent and more of the issues with the collective here and of not being the right ‘sort’. Mustafi has been pretty solid this season, actually. Still, I’m sure we’ll likely ship both out if we have the chance.
Holding/Chambers have both had good spells and not much by way of individual mistakes. They’re just never going to be top players, either. But as 3rd/4th choices they’ll do for now.
@sincere that’s Zech Medley. Absolute unit and quick, but yet to prove much.
The whole squad is chancers. Aubameyang aside.
He weighs the same as my ballsack and is the same height as me lying down, he'll be in Willem/Rio Ave at the height of his powers
Hasn’t Gomes been described as one of those players who looked incredible in the kids and a little less amazing at each step up? Or is that Perreira (who just seems anonymous to me when I’ve seen him - bit of a Lingard clone without the occasional worldies).
@Spikey M they’re just average as fuck really. We’ve lots of those players who could make a decent squad member or starter for the odd top team, but you can’t be fielding ten of the fuckers and hoping Auba pulls it out of the bag every week. Of the recent signings, Torreira has something about him and Tierney/Pepe I’m convinced will work out well (maybe not £85m worth of well in the latter case), but otherwise it’s difficult to pick out a success story in an outfield position.
Gomes has always been spoken of alongside Greenwood and Sancho in that group of England players. As I said when I've seen him come on for us I've thought he actually looked like he had a spark; much more impressive than the likes of Chong.
Apparently Chelsea are interested.
Like every other footballer, he's the best player ever when he joins a club and the worst player ever when he leaves it.
No idea what we would do with such a person other than loan him out to FC Middle-Tier.
If it was Jose at the wheel I would be questioning it, but Ole Gunnar Binman has played the good youth enough to be given the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah I'm not overly bothered.
I see Buffon has signed on for another year. Where does he rank on the all time great keepers list?
At the top of it.
Angel Gomes is Terry Cooke with an afro.
He’s no Packie Bonner.
Saliba and say, an Upamecano would have the upside required to be starters. Holding and Chambers are mid table players, but what other options might we have in front of us with funds needed to be directed throughout the side, no longer being a very attractive prospect and we're talking about 3rd/4th choice anyway...
Yes, Saliba is nominated for Golden Boy. Donning it in a shite team, in a weaker league maybe, but again - we're beggars not choosers out here.
On Buffon, is he the last player left playing who was in Championship Manager 01/02?
Wasn't Rooney on 01/02 as a youngster? He's still technically playing.
He definitely was after a patch, as a good player, and maybe as a shit one before. Now you mention it.
https://thesetpieces.com/gaming/27-s...s-cm9798-fm18/
This is from 97-98
Another summer, another Arsenal prince across the water.
Mitigating circumstances with Gnabry, who had a bad injury, a shite loan spell and a bad attitude yet still was offered a new deal. That was ready to sign when he went to the Olympics and made a star of himself and then Bayern did their shenanigans to guarantee his move to Werder. Malen similarly had injuries kill his time here but I always liked him when fit and it is frustrating to see him having kicked on. I don't think Jeff would have progressed with us, though.
Balogun will do well somewhere, he's more than just a pace merchant. He's got good technique, some lovely evasive skills and is powerful.
Hopefully Trae Coyle, who is training with the first team, will get a chance in the side soon. There's plenty of talent coming out of the academy, which is one positive of the past couple of years.
The thing with the Arsenal academy is they have a continual stream of intelligent and hard-working talent coming through.
#doingbetter
I did all this shit at SOAS ten years ago. In the colonies, the good old British used to label the favoured local tribe 'clever', 'cunning' etc while the subjugated scum version would be 'savage', 'strong' etc. Don't think it's something limited to 21st century football commentary. I'm 99% sure that the Belgian version of this phenomenon is how we ended up with Hutus and Tutsis killing each other in Rwanda.
Sky running a story saying Man Utd won’t pay over £50m for Sancho. lol at that, shame they’re as reliable as the Sun
Media cycle well and truly underway.
Reports selling club won't sell for less than X --> Reports Man Utd won't play more than Y --> Blah Blah Blah ---> Simon Stone tweets negotiations are ongoing but an agreement is "not close" --> Romano "Here we go!" --> transfer announced. Same for about the last 5 of our transfers.
Club want £X.
United spend 3 months saying they won't pay £X.
United pay £X.
Sancho is presumably heavily dependent on United getting Champions League football. Can see him staying there for another season if that doesn't happen, maybe even if it does. Dortmund must be thinking his value is only going to increase in all likelihood (what with there being a Euros next summer and all) and so are going to want crazy money for him. Like Dembele crazy.
If you go to United that's the endgame (unless you think you're good enough for Barcelona to spaff £200 million on in five years, which I suspect Jadon Sancho isn't) so it wouldn't matter about CL football right now if he thinks his career will be spent there.
Obviously doesn't work out for everyone (hi Poggers).
For £50m they can have him ship a pair of his signed boots for Ryan Fraser to wear.
AFCON postponed until 2022.
:joy:
He'll be at United before next season Champions' League or not, and the fee will be eye-watering (£100m+)
Sol Campbell leaves Southend United by mutual consent, timed as Barrow AFC manager Ian Evatt is set to be poached by Bolton Wanderers. Going to be a circus :D
I wonder how much Dwight McNeil would be worth if he played for Dortmund?
Dwight McNeil is fucking ace.
Is Sane out of contract next summer? £50m seems very cheap for the best winger in the league when fit.
Yes.
Is that to Bayern?
I can understand why he is frustrated at maybe not getting the game time he should have at City - although hasn't he featured fairly heavily before being injured all this year? - but isn't he just going to be in the same situation at Bayern? It's not like he walks into the team there. Is it just a being German thing?
Pep is not a fan. Thinks he’s too flash off the field. They’ve done well getting that much for him.
'Pep' is a racist. FACT.
Black players should cost €10-20m more.
Gnabry left, Coman right last time I watched them. Either way, Sane is a top 5 in the world winger so lol at City and lol at everyone else bar Bayern.
Micky Targaryan is staying at Roma permanently. No fee. Lol.
United ruining Dortmund superstars. :cool:
Chump change. You couldn't even buy a David Luiz for that.
I haven't heard anything said about Greazy being linked to any one. Chelsea are done for that but Utd and City should be all over that. I assume Pogba could have a word with him.
Liverpool Twitter has suddenly come up with a deal being very close to bring in Thiago from Bayern. Rumour states that the player has an agreement with Liverpool, but they don't want to pay the asking price (€35m) in one hit, preferring to defer payments whilst they see how next season unfolds money wise.
Seems an odd one to me.
He's 29 already and is on more than anyone at Liverpool is now. He does add a potential creative option at CM, but then The Ox and Naby do that pretty well.
Thiago would be your best midfielder. That’s an absolute bargain - I assume he’s out of contract?
Rumours of Santi Cazorla in as a coach. Make him a player. Man could be 47 and still doing it.
My mushroom would obviously be red raw and at risk of falling off if it were to happen but Thiago has no place in our team and we need a CM like I need a penis extension.
It's an odd one. Wijnaldum might be the casualty.
I can't believe Alcantara/Thiago/whatever he goes by is 29. I'm sure he hasn't, but it feels like he's wasted his career at Bayern.
Messi to leave Barca in 2021
They'll throw more money at him and he'll stay.
They probably should let him go though, the whole setup is too subservient to him. Yes he's their / the best player ever or in the conversation for it but the whole thing isn't just built around him as a player but also massaging his ego.
I think he'll really go this time. Barca are apparently absolutely crippled financially behind the scenes, to the point it wouldn't be a suprise if it all came tumbling down.
He's posturing so they'll get rid of Bartomeu.
Barca's transfer business really is awful. Langlet, Semedo, Umtiti all pretty crap. Vidal, Rakitic, Messi and Suarez all getting old. Then they sign Coutinho, an attacker, and play him in midfield. When was the last time Barca signed a good defender.... Pique 10 years ago?
When is their next president coming in? And is Xavi then going to be the manager or are they going to let Koeman loose on them this summer?
They can never really collapse that much as the whole system in Spain is set-up for either them or Real to win. Real have been an absolute shit show for years (it feels) and yet they're going to win the league after a summer of unparalleled failure in the transfer market. It takes more than gross incompetence for either to really fail.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/spanish-...-wrong-reasons
This is a good read of their business. Top three most expensive signings are Coutinho, Dembele and Greazy and a billion Euros of wasted spending. They'll go the way of Milan soon.
I'd love to see them fucked.
Coutinho, Griezmann & Dembele all flopping is pretty special.
Griezmann is an empty shirt. Late capitalism in shorts. Goes out in blackface and gets a World Cup 'ring' made for himself because he's such a big basketball fan, wishes he wasn't a short white Frenchman, and the mere medals that football doles out aren't enough for his ego.
Keep expecting Barca to bring through a handful of youngsters and start smashing it up, but it just doesnt happen.
Post Messi Barca is going to be ten times worse than post SAF United.
I'm sure the next batch of chosen ones from Mes Que Un Training Academy will be right along to save them just after United's Class of [insert year here] has come into the first team.
Most of Hong Kong seems to. I recall a Jamaican poll saying they wanted back into Empire a while ago too, or certainly wanted the Queen back as HoS.
it would be interesting to see how many great football classes there have been over the past 40 years or so. There are the obvious ones like the Ajax one with Davids, Seedord and them. The Barca one with Iniesta, Xavi and all that. Man Utds and even the smaller ones with Bale, Walcott and Lallana at Southmapton.
And as a follow-up how many of those didn't consistently produce much of note after.
I mean it took a few years for people to believe that the likes of John Curtis weren't going to be legends just because they'd come through the United youth system and I'm sure Barcelona has had its share of that in recent years.
Probably due to jobs would be my wild guess
What a bizarre comment out of nowhere that is.
I'd argue Jimmy's was bizarre-r
Admittedly it's Duncan Castles (who claimed we put an offer in for Fati a few weeks ago lol) but more noise about Sancho to Utd.
Grealish rumours picking up pace again also.
Always said we’d miss Grealish more than Rice. The former is miles above.
Declan Rice is great. Will do much better than Grealish in the long run, albeit completely different players
I've been saying it for years, but everybody too old for a Twitter fan account should realise that Barcelona have always been the worst run club in the world. The 2006 to 2012 period was their exceptional historic team, like seventies Ajax and whoever those bots include in their polls, and then they had 2015 off the back of just putting a good team together. Their current situation is typical of what they have always done, which is to have an absolute superstar toiling against waves of shit.
I've always wondered how they managed to fuck up having Maradona and letting the likes of Athletic Bilbao win titles in those years.
Getting Saka, Martinelli and Aubameyang on new contracts while bombing out Lacazette and Guendouzi for 70 million quid would be top stuff.
Only way to improve it is getting rid of Ozil at a loss of 350k a week just so I don’t have to hear about him for a year.
Who's going to pay £70m for Lacazette?
Was literally about to post Niko's post word for word. Liberties.
Is that pence for the former?
With two years left on his deal, it sounds generous. Give him to a.madrid where he was supposed to end up if all that funny business went on.
Seems there may be something to this Thiago thing.
Füher Rummenigge has said he'll be sold in the summer to avoid losing out on a fee for him. He does however also say Liverpool haven't yet been in contact. If that's true then said €30m fee may be bollocks.
It's nonsense.
Gotta be some Italian team that could do with some creative FFP accounting who could pick him up for £87m
James Rodriguez being touted as a target for English clubs this summer. Is he essentially Özil mark 2 now?
Probably harsh on Ozil.
Ozil had about 5 solid seasons. James had 1 World Cup.
Is that Hammeth?
Sancho transfer agreed all round as per latest ITK info. Official offer, signatures, legal stuff etc. all that's left.
I'd guess it won't be announced for a while so it can be timed to achieve maximum social media interactions and all that bullshit.
Is your ITK info from r/muppetiers?
(For those not in the know: it’s a United subreddit that posts info from alleged ITKs. They posted a thread today alleging the Sancho deal has been agreed, similar to what RL said above).
Note: this isn’t meant to be disparaging. Just curious if you’ve got a different source.
Obviously
Edit: sorry that was a bit blunt, but yeah I've made no secret I'm just relaying from Reddit (previously reddevils but then moved to muppetiers)
Reckon they'll roll out a Welcome to Manchester poster for him?
Lol.
I reckon they'll announce him August 7th with the 7 shirt.
I suppose Sancho might prove a solid enough backup to Greenwood when we need to rest him for the easy wins.
Kroenke has bought the entirety of Arsenals stadium debt. Weirdly, it seems to be a way of them putting in money to the club without bolloxing FFP.
FFP, like all financial reporting mechanisms, is a load of on-paper-only bullshit.
Or that 'keeper swap they did with Valencia, or whatever Bayern and Juve have been up to for the past god knows how long swapping players about (Barca are in on it too - the Arturo Vidal merry-go-round). It all stinks to high heaven.
City's CAS ruling must be due soon.
I suspect City will have their ban rescinded, given that UEFA broke their own rules whilst investigating them. CAS won't like that.
Sancho offer going to be around £80m base + around £20m easy add-ons + another £20m silly add-ons (win the Balon d'Or etc).
Alexis Sanchez will go permanently to Inter, loan with obligation to buy.
Get the swap deal done immediately.
It's not the only reason but I have heard some decent takes on how when we had 'the best bank balance in the league' we were done over a bit because it turns out investing in players was better than saving money due to the way the transfer market never stopped expanding: you could double your money on an average player within 18 months at points, making our fiscally responsible approach redundant in the long run.
But yeah there have been terrible decisions and mismanagement all round from the club regardless. Supposedly our record fee received for a player is still £29.5m for Fabregas.
Cheaper than Perez and Carroll. What a time to be alive.
Coutinho being touted on loan to Arsenal. No prizes for guessing who his agent is.
That Gallas/Cole swap was absolutely mental, looking back. I can't remember if Cole was playing up, but Gallas was threatening to score own goals in order to force the move and somehow from being saddled with him we ended up acquiring the best player in his position in the world by miles for £5 million.
EDIT: Now I remember, 'Cashley' Cole swerving off the road because he was offered 50 grand a week. lol.
Mention of mental transfers had me look up the Eto'o / Ibrahimovic one and it turns out I'd forgotten Eto'o's post-Inter career entirely. Chelsea, Everton and then a load of other shit until only retiring last year.
You may be able to forget. I’ve not. Actually, I think for us it was more the meeting with Mou and whoever was the Director of Chelsea at the time (Martin Edwards?) that was caught on camera before the move, and for which we accused Chelsea of tapping up. In 2005 these things weren’t going on quite as explicitly as nowadays, and we’d just won a 3rd league title in 6 years as the first unbeaten team, and the Emirates was on its way to being built. It felt therefore far more of a case of a cash grabbing, grubby bit of a business.
You had us over a barrel on it, and Gallas seemed the right man to replace Big Sol. Then he was a big part of us fucking up the league title in 08 when we should have won it at a canter, and goes down in history at the Arsenal as perhaps our least revered captain.
Saying that, after over a decade I am now able to acknowledge he’s the best left back I’ve seen play the game and celebrate what he did here, somewhat.
The best left back until he ran into Tony V and his one move, anyway. :cool:
In fairness, he’s probably what we need but I can see the deal being outrageously expensive (25m for a year I think it was with Bayern?) and given Szobzalai is being touted at 15m, It seems disingenuous to look for a quick fix at that kind of money when we’re already so far behind the pack in so many areas of the side. I’d probably rather we spunked that on someone like Tierney, who cost 25m on account of being from a minor league. There’s got to be a few more of those deals around.
I think it was definitely a case of the old football clashing with the new - Cole, king of the wag scene (this was right around the time of Baden Baden) and swerving off the road at the thought of 50 grand a week, must have really offended the clean-living old school types that still patrolled the Marble Halls and who were so well personified in Wenger. In many ways, Arsenal never recovered from that and have never adapted to the bling-flashing realities of modern football since, so much so that Gazidis, hiring and then firing the Dortmund guy, and now this strange Kia Joorabchian setup all feel a bit 'how do you do, fellow kids'.
Coutinho's a bit of a sad case really. Got all the medals to look at now, but he's really had little of note to do with any of them, and now doomed to play out his career at some middle tier shitshow or be the modern day Robinho for whichever new money side emerges next (Newcastle?). Still, dream move and all.
Would love him back, Rush style, everyone makes mistakes and there's no harm in ambition, but I can't see it happening. Feels like Klopp was laying a marker down with him and letting him back would undermine that.
Swap him for Lallana.
Speaking of mad swaps, Talksport are saying Skriniar (or however it's spelled) plus cash for Martial.
Pass.
I have no idea how good that Skriniar guy is, but if he's as good as he's cracked up to be (in terms of media valuation) then that would probably be a good deal (depending on the 'cash'). A rock solid defence is more important than an extremely ephemeral French forward, especially with Greenwood emerging and Sancho apparently on the way. Actually, no, United get cash as well as the defender? No brainer. Martial is a world beater about 25% of the time and does piss all for the other 75%.
Swap him for Lovren.
I talked about this with my best mate recently, he’s a big Chelsea man. There’s a direct correlation between Chelsea and Mourinho forging their modern identity and Wenger and Arsenal slipping into ours as the soft nearly men. Wenger was previously perceived, with good reason, as an adaptable and visionary coach, but become a stubborn, dogmatic figure seemingly fixated with being the antithesis of Mou’s Chelsea.
He was never careful with money on his arrival - we did get some great bargains, but we also spent a good deal of money (for the time) on a few filler players like Jeffers and Wright. We always had aggressive, athletic players - I only really recall Ljungberg and Cole being ‘smaller’ guys in those early Wenger teams, and suddenly that changed to us fielding a whole team full of midgets with dodgy ankles week in, week out. He were direct and efficient, ruthlessly so at our best, but became a side constantly trying to out-Barca Barca, always attempting the perfect goal.
All of that in stark contrast to Abramovich’s spending, Mou’s pragmatism, and the big strong athletes of Chelsea that bullied us in the way we used to bully teams (ironically, this was normally very evident vs Chelsea).
When Mou said Wenger was a voyeur, he was right. I love him, but he seemed almost scarred by the emergence of Chelsea and what he perceived as foul play, to the extent that his purist, dogmatic tendencies totally took over and him and the club moved backwards for years. I was too loyal to see it at the time and bought into it wholesale... But in retrospect it’s frightening. He turned into football’s Harvey Dent.
Alternatively, he was just past it by about 2006, and then he got by on Arsenal being the third/fourth best draw in the competition and a big enough cultural figure to keep everybody happy. He was his own binman.
Look at what Arsenal have become since he left town.
I love him, and he didn’t become awful.
But, there is a narrative there that seems all too obvious with the benefit of hindsight. It’s not definitive, but it is compelling.
Alternatively, there is a middle ground where you are both kind of right. Wenger applied his knowledge of real economics to football and bet the farm on Arsenal's model working, failing to account for the bubble never bursting. This combined with his distaste for 'financial doping' and actual doping, and the fact he had become the unwavering power at the club in charge of everything to do with the football meant that any misjudgements he made were compounded as he tried to play 'the correct way' and achieve some kind of moral victory, as if Bobby Pires didn't secure the invincibles season with Olympian dives.
Skriniar got donned senseless by Tahith Chong in our preseason friendly against Inter.
He came in to a solid side with his bags of pasta, nailed a few excellent foreign transfers when a) signing from abroad was literally pot luck; and b) their non-United rivals were wasting their money on domestic bollocks (and United themselves could be complacent), and it all worked out for a few years. Their transfer business was pretty bollocks even from about 2002, so stadium or not was he capable of sustaining it? Apart from the obvious exception every great manager has run out of steam somewhere, it's just that Bayern, Juventus, Liverpool, etc. have tended to sack them rather than coast along. It's all well and good blaming the board and the stadium, but he could have gone and managed Real Madrid at the time of his choosing, so it obviously suited him to sit in his comfort zone. I don't think he was sticking around to prove a point to Chelsea.
United not pushing Patrick Vieira to force a move in 2001 is the great counterfactual. It would have all fallen to pieces if they had.
He waan't sticking around to prove a point to Chelsea, he was sticking around to prove a point to everyone by winning on last major trophy his way, but it never happened. It should have happened the Leicester year but the side was made in his own image. It's easy to say 'he should've left' etc but I think he genuinely cared about the club more than any other and he was basically doing a one club FM save by the end. The new methods and scouting were always going to provide a temporary edge because everyone quickly imitated them. Especially scouting, nowadays even a second tier team in a minor european league can scout far and wide.
Window to open in England on the 27th July and close on October 5th.
An EFL only window will then open until the 16th October.
What on earth are Real Madrid doing letting Hakimi leave for €40m? The guy is quality, certainly better than Dani Carvajal. Strange.
Apparently we're about to airdrop £30 million into Trabzonspor for some goalkeeper. What could possibly go wrong.
One of the redtops were saying you were ready to complete a ninety million deal for Oblak.
I imagine some skinny Turk with fifty games under his belt will be just as good though.
The Turkish have a very cool and calm temperament which is why they have a proud tradition of producing top class keepers, wouldn't worry
Lock up your daughters.
[Insert favourite Arsenal FanTV character seething here]
Phonics rn.
BILD suggesting Sancho is off the table if United don't make the top four. @randomlegend
Look at the poor lad's dreams be crushed. You hate to see it.
He's not going to City.
Mahow is definitely a wolf.
:sherlock:
I don’t really know who he is but I really want him to go to City now.
Sorry you're right, I tend to read the forum at work regardless to pass the time so when folks were talking about trying to search 'bruhnaldo' on twitter and asked about me the second time I just couldn't resist but say hello. Should've just fucked off directly after but the cookie kept me logged in, so the lack of self-control fucked me again :cry:
Anyhow, I hope you all have great, fulfilling lives. Going forward just assume i died if for some reason Florida pops up in your news feeds again.
I didn't make him go full mental and make a bet to leave the board.
https://as.com/futbol/2020/07/16/pri...27_451725.html
Real Madrid 17 year old right back on the way in: Álvaro Fernández Carreras
Very strong mullet game for such a young man. Are the 80s coming back in?
Heard from an inside source that City are going to bid for Sancho and he's very interested.
How many Reddit.... things... (points? karma?) does your source have, Boydy?
That would be the end of his career.
Surely Man City need a proper left footer to play out wide.
Mahrez?
They don't really need to be consolidating their forward positions unless they think Aguero is done for. Even then there are other areas of more obvious concern.
They already have Silva and Mahrez, so seems superfluous
Foden isnt good enough.
Foden is brilliant.
City want Lauturo Martinez and Ferran Torres.
If man city go and sign another top wide man, he clearly isnt.
He is competing with three other players. Sterling, b silva and mahrez or is someone missing?
If they sign another wide man Foden is going in the middle
Foden is seen as David Silva's successor, he's a central player.
First choice over b.silva?
Foden is showing a much bigger eye for a goal than the Iniesta comparisons era of a year or two ago. He looks to be being modelled on KDB.
I'm not sure there's an easy comparison for what he does. Not from within the City line up, anyway. He should be a nailed on starter in the middle of England's midfield though.
Semi-negative Simon Stone story on Sancho. Virtually confirmation :drool:
You spend more time reading transfer stories than watching the games mate. Enjoy your life better.
Jorge Jesus back to Benfica.
When him and Fatih Terim die, football outside of central europe and the UK go with it.
Best bit of this being that Sancho is currently on £190,000 a week a Dortmund? What the fuck? Has he always been on that as, with only two years left to go on that contract (also how does that really put Dortmund in a strong position?) he must have signed that a while ago - is that what they gave him as a 17 year old? I know being shocked by player wages is a mug's game, but that took me aback slightly.
Just another step towards the glorious implosion of the game.
He signed an improved contract with no extension so they could justify their price.
United have apparently decided to pull the trigger on VDB over Grealish
#ITK
Van der Beek?
Nice to see Anthony Vanden Borre out of retirement.
Virgil Dan Bike
Vicente Del Bosque
Isn't VDB just another version of that Ajax midfielder who was wank at Everton?
Van Der Wank.
Van Der Binman
Got to say, Saint Ettienne kicking off at us because Arsenal won't pay St. Ettienne 2.5 million to play the central defender they no longer own in their cup final is proper proper madness.
A player I've never heard of is about to complete a £74m transfer to Napoli. Victor Osimhen.
#OutOfTouch
Santi Carzola joins Al Sadd :/
Sheff Utd looking close to signing John Swift for £3.5m. That is bloody good business. Wilder taking advantage of the discount on unfashionable white men :drool:
Alcantara to Anfield looks to be on. Who is the casualty here?
Keita? Has Wijnaldum signed a new deal yet? Would be surprised if either was let go really.
I hope if he comes in nobody goes out, be good to have an extra man available to cover for any injuries.
Thiago has played as a deep lying play-maker for bayern for how many years. Its Henderson who probably get cut if Thiago goes in as the first choice. Fabinho would be the shit kicker next to Thiago and then then either Wij or Ox as the 3rd CM?
Klopp loves Henderson.
We've been a shambles every time he's been out, my knob will be red-raw at Thiago's turns and volley'd lofted balls for our Muzzies to run on to but let's be clear, he ain't gonna do shit in this kick and rush league.
Player of the year next season then.
Hi TTH. I felt the need to log in to say that Taz post is balls, and Thiago would be great in any league. (It's possible that I just wanted to criticise Taz after he dissed Brighton a couple weeks ago.)
I was just putting the bait out to draw you back in, you predictable cunt. Imagine thinking Thiago would struggle when that malnourished gyppo is getting plaudits for Utd.
The Brighton stuff wasn't bait though, you're toxic to the eye [and you know it].
Was Reg gone?
Everyone is forever on my mind.
Daniel James isn't going to be as good as Messi. Oh wait, RL is active, as you were.
Sky Germany (dogshit tier) reporting Sancho pushing for the United moved, confirmed by Bouhafsi (top tier for French clubs)
Martial sold. Greenwood striker. Sancho right. Radhford left?
Wijnaldum is most likely. In his Liverpool guise he is often the one of the midfield 3 the most forward. Henderson and Fabinho do a lot more dirty work, though his effort is not to be overlooked. He also is down to 1 year left on his deal and is (depending on who you believe) either after a new challenge or one last big payday.
I've heard rumours of a swap with Bayern. To swap him for Thiago would change that midfield dynamic a fair bit. I don't think Thiago is as athletic nor as willing to get his hands dirty, but going the other way he'd be another great weapon to unpick those stubborn defences.
It'd also allow for a shift into a 4-2-3-1 where needed. Curtis Jones has been handed the #17 shirt for next year which seems to me an indication he's likely to be a regular member of the squad. He's another that could play in the 3 or as the 10.
Personally I'd love to see Thiago as well as Gini staying. He's more than earned the reward of a new deal.
Awww, I like Wijnaldum.
It looks like we're actually going to sign Kai Havertz (the surgeons rummaging through legal precedent to determine his eligibility or otherwise for The Operation) but Leicester want £80 million for Chilwell (lol) so we're after some blockhead Belgian instead.
Wijnaldum's an excellent 10 when he plays for Holland, and whilst I appreciate 'Thiago' is probably a 'better' player, at 29 does he have what it takes to come in and hit the ground running in England? Maybe for some fancy dan possession wankers, but I don't know about him as an '8' the way Liverpool play. Gini is mega-underrated and even if he were to leave I don't think it's a position that would need urgent restaffing. Changing the system unsettles the front 3.
I do wonder how capable Firmino would be as one of the midfield 3. He was a midfielder in the Wijnaldum mould once upon a time, and they've gone different ways with it. Would open up space for Mbappe.
Mbappe :D.
C. Ronaldo has a better chance at joining the Wolves Portuguese Invasion
A lot of noise of Ake to City now. Do Chelsea still hold the option on him?
The private jet that brought Bruno to Manchester is in Ibiza, where Sancho is on holiday.
Which is probably a coincidence, but yknow.
Barrow AFC's best player, John (brother of Wayne) Rooney has gone to Stockport County rather than have a crack at the football league. Must have been a lucrative offer.
Is Stones officially done at City now then? And how they laughed when Arsenal thought they might have him on loan or something whenever that was.
Kai Havertz is the most good-looking footballer since Gourcuff so its a win-win for Chelsea there
If Chelsea get Havertz too it'll be like coming down that ramp Vince McMahon style after their ban.
Bince McMan.
Ryan Fraser's been tearing it up in Ibiza with Wayne Lineker for the last month so the story checks out.
I just assumed that post was meant for the shameful lustage thread.
He looks like he's got teeth like people presume British people have.
He looks like something out of Antz.
After a long trawl of google images and some careful consideration, I'm coming down on mokkers's side here.
He's no Francois Cevert.
The entire ‘BVB’ squad singing “Hey Jude” on Twitter to announce the signing of a 16-year-old is everything that’s wrong with modern football. Fight me.
It's everything wrong with Germans. Again, the lamest people in the developed world.
Net spend returning :drool:
Didn't they lose money on Morata?
Waff's just following standard FFP protocol whereby you only count fees received and entirely ignore (sorry, amortise) any you may or may not have paid out over time.
That plane has set off, looks England bound
EDIT: RIP GOING TO PARIS
Picking Neymar up on the way back to England. :drool:
Manchester United footballers don't need planes, they can just ride the jet stream with their silky feet. Attack! Attack! Attack, attack, attack!
Well indeed.
Can't see anyone outside of Real being able to offer him the sort of wages it would take to get him out of Paris, and everything is all about money. Do they really pay Bale €600k a week? I know they have a slightly different approach to everyone else in terms of how they structure things (to do with image rights etc) but even so, lol at paying him that to act like a twat on the stands. No desire to leave either. :D
Real Madrid don't have a pot to piss in now anyway.
ITKs all saying Dortmund have accepted United's official offer for Sancho. Medical and contract signing all that's left.
Ornstein has confirmed this to be true by saying it's "not close". Simon Stone throwing a slight spanner in the works by saying something positive.
What did Peter Thomas say?
https://www.theguardian.com/football...n-35m-transfer
What’s the view on Aké? Surely he’s damaged goods from being part of this Bournemouth team? I don’t think their defence shored up much after he joined, but I could be wrong. Seems like a typical Pep defender, really.
I'd say his injury record would be the biggest worry. He's a more than decent player, but yeah, could be quite Pep. He's not exactly the guy you think is going to make everything alright is he? More than capable but not in the top bracket. They just need to suck it up and buy Koulibaly.
£35m is nothing to them, less than they typically spend on feckless fullbacks so a player that can cover a couple of positions is probably a step in the right direction.
I think man city are just trying to find their own version of Virgil
I suspect he'll do quite well.
Everton signing Hojbjerg is such an Everton thing to do. Forever irrelevant.
I cant think of the other man city central defender besides Laporte. Has it been walker since kompany leftm
Otamendi has played 24 this year, proper stealing a living.
Otamendi and Stones. Stones should be good. Whats happened to him? He has the long physique and the ball-playing ability. Defending isnt all that important.
Garcia has been getting a few starts since the restart.
You would think itll be Ake and one other central defender in with possibly both Stones and Ottamendi out.
I did a quiz for work on evertons signings and they quietly splash the cash on players from the league. They have bought about 20 players for 20m+
One of the few defenders you can pick up outside the top 6/7 teams that’s used to playing in a high line and playing it out from the back I guess, and in fairness given the other players in that Bournemouth defence, he’s been carrying what little defensive quality they have for a while.
John Stones has always been crap. It's just that the NARRATIVE (Good Football, ball-playing defender) covered him at Everton, and he could coast at City. If you look at his England performances you get an idea of where he is.
If we had technically gifted footballers (we clearly don't and rarely do) then I'd worry more about whether our defenders could play the ball, but as it is I'd prefer to start with their ability to defend first and foremost.
Ho Chi Minh City released Lima a few weeks ago, and are apparently letting Amido Balde go this week.
Replacements, strangely, already in country and going through quarantine, Costa Rican pair Ariel Rodriguez and Jose Ortiz
I call him Juan Piedras, as it better reflects his more cultured playing style. How the chattering tacticians of Montjuich tapas bars must coo when they see him play-it-out-from-the-back (or 'Fuerabaloncísimo' as it is properly known) against Burnley on satellite TV.
Are you alright Jim?
He just cannot abide anything foreign, nothing new there. He went balls deep with that at one though.
Let's not gammonise posting flair like that, we haven't all surrendered our soul quite yet.
They actually call it la jamonización over there, which I'm sure Giggles would know if he wasn't busy hating foreigners.
It's a character issue with Stones. He's a cunt by all accounts.
Didn't Holberg tell Everton he'd rather go to Spurs?
Everton are the only club that can afford him, it was reported Spurs offered less than Evertons original 15m bid.
Kyle Walker-Peters has been great on loan so I assumed we would do some sort of swap deal. Seems like they may have realised KWP is actually decent and want to give him a proper chance.
7 years to the day since Arsenal made that bid for Suarez.
:drool:
Google says he had a clause in his contract which meant Liverpool had to inform Suarez of any bid over £40m. Arsenal thought it was a release clause and bid 40m and one pounds, which Liverpool told Suarez about and promptly rejected.
The exact details are a bit sketchy. I think he had a release clause, Liverpool's ownership just laughed it off (basically saying contracts were worthless in football when players wanted to leave so they'd have a bit of it the other way round) and Suarez had no desire to kick up a major fuss to go to Arsenal.
It was basically the beginning of their descent.
Nah the beginning of the descent was before that I'd say. Bennacer rumoured to PSG or City for £40m, the next Gnabry style regret tale for Arsenal.
At least we have a nice new home kit.
Sane just basically confirmed Chelsea are signing Havertz in a press conference. At least they’ll still be fun to watch. Over 3.5 in every game with that defence
If you score 10 then there shouldn't be time for the oppo to get more than 7 or 8.
Mbappe will cost about £20
Birmingham City have retired Judes number 22 shirt
I was thinking the other day how it's surely unlikely that anyone other than PSG will ever win the league again (or at least until the Qataris leave town, which they won't, because having money in Paris is a safer bet than having it in a tiny desert oil state), in which case why do the rest of the teams even bother continuing?
You would surely gang up and vote PSG out of the league if you could.
Jesus, I thought that was a joke. That is stunning :D
That is shameful. It's bad enough when clubs do it for their actual legends.
:harold:
Christ, I thought he was pulling the piss too.
Someone should check on Mellin. He might have laughed himself into a collapsed lung.
Close the club down.
There's some lovely footage going around of Lampard telling Klopp to fuck off, has really made my day, as if that German fraud can come over here and lord it over our homegrown legends like he owns the place.
What was SFB all worked up about?
The freekick that wasn't that led to the second goal.
The story I read re: Bellingham from one of the Birmingham fans on Reddit is that because of his age he could have left on a free, but he 'arranged' it so that the buying club paid Birmingham a fee and he took lower wages. They reckoned Birmingham were in enough financial difficulty that the fee was significant enough to have not far off saved the club.
If that's all true it's slightly more understandable. Sort of.
If it’s true then in fairness you don’t get much more of a club legend than saving it.
If that's true I hope they're going to name one of their stands the Borussia Dortmund Stand for not lolling the whole thing off.
Didn't Delph invent that shenanigans when he signed a new contract with Villa a month before going to City?
My favourite version of this came from Basketball.
https://i.imgur.com/SwuyieR.png
I ain't seen a minute of the lad but I'll have a stake on him doing absolutely nothing and ending up back in the ends, automatically undoing the retirement of the number.
He can't even cement a 90 minute slot for Birmingham and has 4 goals and 2 assists in 2700 minutes of football. Get the fuck in the bin with your physically early developed useless ass.
I'll have a stake on Taz throwing about :drool:s and calling him an 'ebony god' or some such nonsense within 5 years.
Seems a bit like MK Dons retiring Dele Alli's number.
Is not being a complete shithouse really enough to warrant such (admittedly mawkishly Americanised) conduct? This goes back to my previous point about Birmingham City having no place in an ideal Premier League (sorry Fuce, or 7om, or both).
Aren't they also owned by Trillion Trophies China Inc or somesuch? Who exactly is being saved in this narrative?
Bruv, he's the same colour as my ballsack and his limbs have that RvP look of retarded range of motion about them. He'd fucking die on his arse on a dancefloor. Negative ebony don potential.
Any time a non-top flight team receives a cheque worth more than a chicken dinner it's dressed up as saving the club. The reality is about three of them have gone under in the last 100 years. It's just a silly emotional bit of PR that makes them look small time, which they wouldn't be aware of because they're all wrapped up in it.
Things seem to be totally changing now, way more would be at risk surely. I do like this argumentative Jimmy though. Lockdown has been good to you :drool:
And then they'll do it again with his brother.
Bellingham will be top tier imo.
Is it official he is even going into the first team? His competition in midfield
Emre Can
Witsel
Delaney
Brandt
Dahoud
They have played a 343 this season.
Is he not a winger? He'll replace Sancho when our Jadon goes to ENGLAND INTERNATIONAL DUTY GAHAHAHHAHA
Isn't one of his plus points that he can play pretty much anywhere but in goal?
So a poor man's John O'Shea?
Yeah transfermarkt has him down as a CM. I'm gonna have to re-evaluate. He might be fit to clean RLC's boots if he puts his head down.
He wishes. John O'Shea was a great goalie.
EDIT: At Mahow.
Don't fucking talk to me like that.
Sancho appears to have been in Málaga today based on his instagram. Then this afternoon two private jets took off one after the other (one of which was the one Bruno flew in on) from Málaga, one landing in Manchester and the other in Biggin Hill (the London airport Utd always use).
Mate...
I'm really not calling you out. At this point, this is a mental health check-in, your family need to intervene.
You're location tag hunting teenagers.
If you're gonna plane spot, pull up to the Heathrow car park with a flask and do it right.
I'm going to rep every shitty plane rumour until he signs.
BBC have Lovren to Zenit for ACTUAL MONEY as something that might be more than idle clickbait.
https://www.themag.co.uk/2020/07/new...ks-off-report/
So the new guys come in after the transfer window is shut, if they come at all. Destroy this club.
Who’s the muff?
Amanda Staveley.
Real Madrid are hoping to raise around 180m euros (£163m) this summer by selling - among others - Wales forward Gareth Bale, 31, Colombia midfielder James Rodriguez, 29, and Serbian forward Luka Jovic, 22.
:happycry:
Someone should tell Amanda to drop her Barclays lawsuit and sign the fucking paperwork.
Lallana to Brighton seems to be getting some traction.
:drool:
Me next season:
https://i.imgur.com/COehunJ_d.webp?m...idelity=medium
That would be lovely. I want to watch him as much as his body holds up not to get rotated with Marc Fucking Albrighton every other week.
Beak is enormous
https://www.ladbible.com/news/uk-wom...cales-20200724
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A shopper has shared a photo of a 500g packet of minced beef she bought from Sainsbury's, after weighing it and realising she had been short changed.
The packet of mince that she'd purchased from the British supermarket chain actually only had 478g in it, meaning she was down 22g of mince.
She said: "Erm @sainsburys this was supposed to be a 500g pack, where's the rest? #shortchanged"
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Another, in reference to Birmingham City retiring their 22 shirt, said: "They've retired 22g of beef in honour of Jude Bellingham, have some respect."
:D
lll
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Morelos supposedly agreed a move to Lille from Rangers, in the region of £20m. Reckon Rangers could do a lot worse than get Deeney in.
We need to talk about Doucoure and Sarr. I'm praying the latter's demolition job on us has us sniffing. No place for the former but both are proper monumental signings waiting to happen.
United apparently want Sancho, Grealish, VdB and a starting quality CB (Upamecano and Koylibaly mentioned but nobody really sure) as their ideal window. There are 10 players who would be allowed to leave if a half decent bid came in, and we're actively aiming to get at least 6 out.
#ITK
I see the Harvey Barnes to Liverpool link has resurfaced. Fits the Klopp mould, but his finishing is disgusting.
Havertz is obviously as good as done, I just wonder whether we have any plans to start defending better or if Andreas Christensen toeing clearances up in the air is actually the future of top class defending and I'm just missing something.
I'm also not sure where a keeper is coming from, or who will take Kepa off our hands, surely we're not paying £100 million for Oblak as well as spunking all this money on the various attackers.
Interesting. Thought he'd had his career ruined this year but god bless the transfer comittee for recognising that talent. Why Leicester have tried to make him into some byline winger I don't understand, I swear he blew as a central player for West Brom. Imagine thinking a white man is gonna make for a top winger.
Bild are reporting a €98m bid for Sancho has been rejected.
Being a Leicester player I would imagine his price tag would be prohibitively high.
Sadio needs to have a word in Sarr's ear, although that's only going to further exacerbate AFCON issues.
There aren't going to be many half-decent bids flying around this summer. Other than from United by the sounds of it.
Other than fulfilling a 'nice-to-have' requirement I'm really not sure why United would want (all of) Sancho, Grealish and the dutch chap for £200m when they already have pretty decent options in that area of the pitch. Are they just replacements for the likes of Sanchez, Mata (is he still there?) and whoever else might be leaving? Centre-half, left-back and someone less shit than Matic as the pivot or whatever that role is called would seem a more sensible way to spend a fuckton of cash
What's the score with Vertonghen? I see he's left Spurs.
Has age ravaged his ability? Does he want to play more or a ludicrously long contract maybe?
If he's still even halfway serviceable I'd have him as a Robertson back-up/Lovren replacement if he doesn't mind sitting on the bench.
Shit, BBC have Lovren leaving to Zenit for £11m as official.
Being a ball-carrying left footed defender, im sure that Vertonghen has overs all over the place
We've probably got Milner in a 24/7 mentoring scheme with Elliott and that's owing to the fact he's Messi's regen. Ain't nobody got the energy nor time to spend beating the cunt out of that humongous Norwich retard on top of that.
Cantwell to Leeds feels like a good fit to me. He can run around a lot and be a knobhead with shit hair.
Where the sweet fuck are Fraser and Zaha planning on going if their move to Utd falls through? Is it an Everton ting?
We DESPERATELY need creative options for the centre. If either of Pogba or Fernandes get injured or have a poor run of form it's back to fucking Pereira, Lingard, Mata etc.
Matic has been good since the restart but he doesn't have the legs for it. I guess the hope is that McTominay and Fred could provide sufficient cover until next year.
We're after a centre back. Upamecano on loan with obligation to buy is apparently something we're looking into. Shaw/Williams are fine.
I would not want Zaha back, especially for the price mooted.
Cantwell is the new JLINGZ.
https://www.caughtoffside.com/2020/0...hem-to-safety/
Strange Portuguese papers rumour that Bruno Lage (formerly of Benfica) to take over Dean Smith.
Does Dean Smith know about this?
Gutted that his name isn't, as I initially misread it, "Bruno Large."
Lovren gone, back to back titles is on!
\o/
Romano saying Willian likely going to Arsenal. Presumably on a three year contract given the reason he's leaving Chelsea is that they only offered him two.
Lol.
Even though he's been one of their better players since the restart they probably don't actually need him seeing as they are buying all the wide forwards/attacking midfielders in creation (and already have a fair few there).
Sky Sports guy James Cooper (someone noteable? Dunno) reckons they will go for Sancho, a centre back, and a creative midfielder, but that they can't spend much money...
Presumably Grealish wants to be a guaranteed starter if he leaves so can't see where he'd fit at United.
Stoney with the denial:
We're in the end game now :drool:
United's attack is going to be absolutely shit hot. The rest of the side not so much, but at least the games won't be horrendous to watch like the majority of the past seven years.
Sancho will be shook to the core when he lines up against an actual defence.
That is a point. Maybe bring Jose Mourinho back with him.
Is Sancho good then? I’ve never seen a match with him in.
He looks good, although it can be hard to tell when most of his games that I've seen have been against Championship level sides (be it for England in the various age groups or Dortmund).
He's better than Dan James.
What's this Ferran Torres chap City are signing like? I've heard of him but he falls into the never really seen him play category for me.
Why is everyone who needs a new defence signing attackers?
I’m better than Dan James.
I mean we have the third best defensive record in the league and it was good last season too...
That’s how we’ve always described Baz.
A new conman approaches.Quote:
There is also keen interest in Newcastle from American businessman Henry Mauriss, who is willing to offer £350m for the club, who finished 13th in the Premier League standings.
This morning in air traffic control:
One plane has done London --> Manchester --> Nice and a second just did London --> Nice
Sancho is currently in St Tropez
Ban the creep
Sancho has just been spotted eyeing up the menu of Lou Macari's. Note - he loves fish and chips.
If he loves fish and chips is there not a risk he will become a fat player like Luke Shaw and slow at running? I would rather he was eyeing up the menu of a salad bar. Very worried United fan here.
Just seen him in Tossed at Bishop Stortford services.
Which country does he feel do the best pork products?
I've got contact from his local butcher, he prefers weisswurst but despite that, he thinks he can handle the Cumberlands that United are offering.
Coutinho longing for a return to the Premier League. He'd be brilliant for Jose.
Sheffield United interested in Phil Jones.
Offer from a Spanish club for Dalot.
United will make a low-ball offer for Ake with Bournemouth being relegated.
Sanchez has agreed a significant wage cut to go to Inter. If a fee is agreed with Utd he'll go.
Is there any special reason Solskjaer doesn't like Dalot?
I mean I know that having more than one competent right back seems to be against club policy in recent years but I don't really see the issue and I'd have thought he could have done a bit on the wing recently rather than driving the same eleven players into the town.
Just because a fullback doesn't score own goals doesn't make them competent, that is ultimately a more extreme fallacy which has seen AWB make a name as a high quality RB. Dalot was always going to amount to fuck all, you don't fucking sign quality players from the Portuguese league any more and if you do, it's after Wolves have had a go.
Has Coutinho ever played as a traditional 10? He never really did for Liverpool other than maybe during his somewhat ill-fated 'fab 4' days. Started out on the side of a diamond and for most of Klopp's time played on the left of 3. Agree the role is being somewhat eradicated in the modern game.
Are Inter owned by China now (or some other idiots) rather that insane Moratti guy? Can't imagine he'd be buying into any sort of deal where money went out of the club in United's direction for Sanchez.
Both Meelans are owned by the Chinese are they not?
Does that leave De Laurentiis ploughing a lonely furrow as the last of a dying breed of madman Italian owners (other than the Pozzos I guess)?
Glad to hear the breed isn't dying out entirely.
Is that former Leeds guy still going (at Brescia???) or is he in prison now? Cellino?
Supposedly Coutinho said he wants more time to decide on whether to join Arsenal, Spurs or Leicester so can only assume it's us if we win the FA Cup and get Europe, otherwise the other two.
Everton rumoured to want a 36 year old Ivanovic :D
Coutinho's probably just taking time to sort his affairs before topping himself if those are his choices.
He must be proper kicking himself about leaving Liverpool now. Little dickhead.
£10m a year and probably paying no tax at all says otherwise, but yeah, it wasn't the best dream to follow.
The worst thing about modern transfer wank is the normalisation of twice-translated Euro bollocks lingo.
'...working hard to find a solution for the transfer of Jadon Sancho', says Sky Sports. Fuck off.
Googled a person on Football Weekly I'd never heard of and on his Twitter he mentions the "First Team Recruitment Analyst" being advertised here:
https://www.manutd.com/en/club/jobs/...opportunities#
Being paid to say "Yeah Dave's gone a bit pants." :drool:Quote:
To contribute toward the administration and delivery of a comprehensive performance analysis service with a specific emphasis on goalkeepers.
Just saw this on twitter:
Sancho doesn't seem to be 100% set on joining Man Utd and would even prefer to join Liverpool because of the bigger chance to win titles.
(Kicker)
It's the source that really make it :*****)
Sadly(?) that story is nonsense on many levels.
:***********************************************)
Milan Baros just retired :cab:
Yeah I saw a few weeks ago he was planning to. I'd just assumed he'd retired ages ago because I dunno when I last heard his name.
He wasn't that old was he? Mid-to-late 30s?
I was at a Sparta - Banik Ostrava game a month ago and Baros came on in the 85th minute or something, and my reaction was more or less equivalent to the emoji phonics used in his post
Ferran Torres to City looks to be all but done.
White Spanish wingers :harold:
I remember when United were in for Joaquin and Vicente to replace David Beckham and Ryan Giggs. Jesus, that would have been closer to my birth than now.
Pablo Hernandez played for 'that' Valencia side and he's back in the prem :cool:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005...ncia_CF_season
How did nobody buy David Villa until he was almost past it?
As FM was basically an indication of real life. You couldn't sign Joaquin from Betis. He never wanted to leave.
It all makes sense with Alexis now. He is 108 years old.
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Brighton have signed a right back from Ajax. Under a million quid seems like a pretty good deal for a prime age Dutch international, but there's a bit of déjà vu about all of the Eredivisie bods on twitter announcement shouting LOL he's shit what are you doing.
£41m for Ake to City.
City apparently still after Koulibaly despite signing Ake.
The Ake fee is ridiculous btw.
Buying an entirely new backline every other year. The genius of PEP.
It seems like a very smart way of running a football club to me. Same type of transfer that also brought in the likes of Lamptey (I presume new guy will be his deputy), Mooy and Burn for peanuts, and probably the same calibre of player that the likes of Everton enjoy spunking twenty million on.
I can't see how acquiring players that the market is undervaluing is anything but an attempt to move up the league. It's exactly what Liverpool did. Brighton's net spend has been pretty big since they they got promoted, it's just that most of the expensive buys have been fucking shite.
That's harsh actually, just a couple of big Eredivisie flops in there. They've basically built a completely new, young premier league squad for 200 million over three years. Dev squad is smashing it too. Not bad imo.
United links to Raul Jimenez are picking up again. Some of the ITKs said a while back we were in for him but it all went quiet on that front about a month ago. Rumours then were for a swap deal, possibly involving Dalot, which is what's being talked about in the media now.
Solskjaer thinks Dalot is absolute dogshit apparently.
On the CB front, we were said to be interested in Ake but not enough to match City's bid. Upamecano (on a loan with obligation to buy), Gabriel Magalhaes and Pau Torres are the others on our list.
Villa moved the goalposts on Grealish once the relaxation of FFP was announced. They really do want over £80m now.
In for our own summer of fuck you, pay me.
Hello Mr Wolves, can we interest you in swapping your top, top striker with this absolutely dogshit, sorry, I mean top top full back once billed as, what was it, one of the best in the world by Jose Mourinho?
He'd be a quality signing for United mind, although you could only imagine the fee would be insane. Didn't they pay like £40m for him themselves? It'd have to be £80m+.
That Ake fee is a bit mad, although not surprising. He's a decent player and handy in that he can fill a few holes in various positions. £60m+ already apparently burned on players who improve the squad but not really the first XI though? One wonders where the money comes from. Why don't they just not let the next Jadon Sancho slip through their fingers rather than signing Ferran Torres? They must have managed to filch some decent talent into their academy or do Chelsea just own that racket?
Barcelona are the bigger mugs going for him.
My ITK mate in the Portuguese press also backs up the Jimenez story. http://sportwitness.co.uk/wolves-sig...hester-united/
It’s Ake just one of them homegrown things like the lad from Villa a few years ago?
That and he's left-footed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Baro%C5%A1
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On 1 November 2007, Baroš was arrested in France while driving at 271 km/h (168 mph) in his black Ferrari F430, on a freeway limited to 130 km/h (81 mph). Stopped by French police between Lyon and Geneva in the region of Ain, the local authorities said the radar reading of 271 km/h was the fastest speed ever recorded in the region, surpassing the previous mark of 248 km/h (154 mph) set by a motorcyclist in 2000.
Ake is 25 and a consistent, proven premiership talent. Anything less than £60m is because they went down. Top signing.
it's one of those that sounds mental until you remind yourself that £40m these days is what they find down the back of the sofa.
I could see Jimenez leaving as they have yet to receive a big transfer income from a player, given their strong position.
I think he will go to Juventus with Ronaldo coming the other way in a swap deal. Portugal links and all that.
Isn't Laporte left-footed though?
I like Ake as a player, but I'm not sure he's really all that much better than John Stones. I mean, he's basically just participated in/been central to one of the worst defences over a sustained period of time in the history of the Premier League. Is he good for Holland or does De Ligt play?
He’s English...
I did see a stat that Felipe Anderson had more tackles than he did though.
He's as Dutch as they come in 2020.
LOL
did he not play in the under 21s or something?
Maybe I’m confusing him with the other Chelsea kid with dreads but he’s welsh...
The real question is why top clubs continue to bother with CBs who aren't physical wilderbeasts with dicks made for porn.
I see Liverpool are inked with Kelly from Bournemouth (who'd have known they had so many coveted defenders?) although that could just be because he was linked last summer when he left Bristol.
Theoretically a physical specimen who's happy/able to cover left and centre-back sounds good, but in the little I've seen of him (maybe less than 5 minutes in total) he looked a bit Traore-esque (against Leicester).
I recall thinking last summer he'd do well there having not seen a minute of him.
https://i.imgur.com/MJzEKTY.png
Always trust a man who appreciates a good milk truck.
But unfortunately, and this comes from the teachings of the dark, dark Aly Cissokho episode, his dental status suggests we're better off avoiding. The gap may be in in fashion circles but not here, mate.
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One of the local French papers who are a Lille mouthpiece are saying United, Napoli and Everton all have bids in for Gabriel Magalhaes. They're probably just throwing our name in like they did with Pepe last year though tbh.
What the fuck is a Gabriel Magalhaes?
Yeah I'd never heard of him til a few days ago either
Lille have got some racket going on with their recent transfer policy.
Have they just sold that Osimhen chap to Napoli for Pepe-money? Don't they also have some midfielder everyone was being linked with for millions last year?
Soumare?
Its nothing compared to the Porto model of transfer profits though.
Bouhafsi chiming in on the Gabriel Magalhaes claims which is interesting.
No idea how good he is.
Age and physical stature checks out. Nationality does not.
Guardian are linking Utd to Sancho. Don't know much about him but it's an interesting rumour.
They need to get their sources right, he's retired:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Sancho
Wikipedia lists him as being five eleven, so why did I think he was a manlet? Is that including his hair?
5-11 is fairly manlet.
If England pictures are anything to go off I think they are including his hair.
Salah and Mané are 5'8"/5'9", Sterling is 5'6" or something so it's not like stature is essential, or even desirable, in that position.
Transfermarkt has Sancho at 180cm though, to Salah's 175, Mané's 174 and Sterling's 170, so maybe he is (a bit) taller in the midget swarm stakes.
:drool:
It still amazes me how quickly he's gone to pot.
Daniel James sliding into that famous number seven shirt. :cool:
Aaaand done. No fee, whatevs.
Won't Sanchez have basically been paid off by United to agree to that (what do they call it, a 'loyalty' payment)? I suppose it draws a line under it at least. Unlike the Ozil situation. Or Bareth.
You would re-package those wank assets as well wouldn't you you shithead banker.
U ok.
Angel Gomes going to Lille and then immediately on loan to Boavista is a bizarre one.
The reasons he wouldn't signed with us were rumoured to be either money (can't imagine Lille have offered him more) and not wanting to go on loan (??????)
Odd, but not as odd as rumour of the day Joel Matip to PSG for £50m.
Behave.
Pwnd noobs
You saying that's a lot for Matip? He's fucking class tbf and his fitness may mean we don't have to deal with Joe Gomez in big games so £50m ain't enough in my eyes.
In other news, is Hammond this writer's mate or is Barnes' agent? Bit OTT to have a piece like that about the kid.
https://www.theguardian.com/football...it-loan-system
I like Matip, but given his fitness record, anyone signing him for £50m would be mental, and would clearly be indicative of some sort of Cameroonian organised crime angle at PSG after they signed Choupo-Moting whenever that was.
It is probably being unfair on Matip, when fit he'd probably get in every team in the league, in a weirdly underwhelming sort of way.
Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg looks to be on the way to Tottenham. Inter after Ndombele.
I don’t want him. I don’t know who at the club actually does.
Wasn't Hojbjerg to Everton a done thing not long ago?
I'd take the lad for £15m.
Mourinho FC
The Sun have claimed a ‘leaked video reveals Willian signs for Arsenal’
It’s a fucking FIFA video :D
Brilliant
Ah, we've reached the "deal is not close" brief from Utd stage of the Sancho transfer.
IDK why Ducker, Peach and Stone continue to allow themselves to be used for PR games by Utd like this. It's embarassing.
Is this Torres guy an absolute steal for City (well, in relative terms) or is he not as good as my extremely limited knowledge suggests he might be?
https://i.imgur.com/4Xh9q0s.png
edit: It seems that they've got some pro evo trailer but nothings turned up.
This one seems more likely but it's a nice throwback to Hatem Trablisi who played for Arsenal on Pro Evo 4 despite not signing for us.
He's apparently very good. Valencia are absolutely fucked financially, they are basically having a fire sale which explains the fee.
They've been saying that for ten years the losers.
I think they still own that second stadium that hasn't been knocked down.
Peter Lim's too busy boozing it up with the class of 92 to give a shit.
edit: If it says anything about Torres, we sold Gabriel and Francis Coquelin to them who have 'impressed' whoever decides the consensus opinion on these things.
Regardless of thr FA cup, Auba isnt signing a new deal is he?
Who's going to buy him this summer (and pay him a quarter of a million a week) if he doesn't? He may as well accept his certain fate.
Torres'll be switched to full-back by the end of the season and back with Sevilla/Villarreal by the time we've wrapped up our third in a row.
United won't go near another older player on massive wages for a long time.
City have Aguero, United's attention is elsewhere, there is literally not a chance on this planet Liverpool buy him, Chelsea have already committed to buying enough attacking talent haven't they? Barcelona are fucked and don't need another old forward to further stuff things up, Real Madrid are all about getting the bright young things as and when they become available, other European titans are either well covered or probably not interested.
I suppose the best analogy would be when Van Persie went to United but I can't see it happening.
I'm not saying he wouldn't benefit all of those teams, just that paying £50m+ and probably the same again in wages for an ageing forward isn't something a lot of teams are likely to be keen on committing to.
AC Milan are flush again aren't they? So if he wants to trade mid-level shit in "the best league in the world" for a cushty life in Serie A whilst never winning anything I suppose he could have at it. Should stick with Arsenal. There's an outside chance of them being half-decent in a year or so.
Has Aguero actually committed to next year? I assumed he was likely off this summer. I don't think he'd quite cost £50m at the moment though. But if he were much cheaper all those teams listed would be stupid not to. The wages don't really come into it as much as the fee would.
Sunning it up in Turin while raking in the trophies and cash would imo be his best move now.
If Barca were smart they'd swap him for Coutinho who we want for some unidentifiable reason. We haven't even got rid of the last overpaid number 10 in the squad yet.
Aguero's contract is until 2021. He's never going to leave City to go somewhere other than wherever he comes from (Independiente?) so that'd have to be at the end of a contract, you'd think.
Can't see anyone leaving City this summer really as they'll be going all out for the league next season.
Liverpool apparently in for Jamal Lewis for £9m
I absolutely hate to simplify a billion dollar industry ran through mathematical modelling systems designed by the finest minds in existence but...mixed race full backs :drool:
0 assists in 28 games. Nice one.
Let’s go for Luke Thomas with his 1 in 15 games instead please.
It is rumoured Aubameyang is happy to sign a deal if the price is right as long as we dont have a summer signing the likes of Ryan fucking Fraser.
SSN are claiming Arsenal have offered Willian a three year deal for less money that Barcelona and Inter Miami are currently offering.
He won’t leave London. Arsenal or Spurs will have to deal with him
Spurs are already over subscribed in his position and his wage demands would be about double what they'd pay.
And Daniel Levy probably bears grudges.
He will go to Arsenal which I think is a bit silly from us.
Imagine signing for Inter Miami. :drool:
Florida is one of the last places you'd want to go right now.
He'll go to Arsenal because he owns a restaurant with David Luiz
I understand the principal of not giving certain players over the age of 30 longer than two year deals. However, players seem fitter and can generally play at a higher level for much longer. It looks like Willian weighs as much as Sky Remote, and half of that is probably his hair. Chances of him getting fat seems slim, even if he is an offneisve Brazilian.
I don't think the concern is physical decline in older players is generally around them getting fat :D
Arsenal announcing redundancies whilst offering players £250k per week contracts. :drool:
I saw that, the tin ear is incredible.
My ITK sources are saying that Willian likes a eclair so Sincere might be onto something.
Sanchez to Milan made official.
*Inter :panda:
Dropping his from the wage bill is probably a huge relief for Man Utd. Is he on the same wage at Inter now, have thye just moved his contract?
I believe he's on less at Inter, from what you read.
United will have paid him off.
But yeah, it can't be helpful during contract negotiations with other players to have a useless sack of shit as the highest earner . . . :rosebud:
We needed another modern-day Bogarde. Sanchez managed to get three years out of Man Utd. I think he deserves to be the new benchmark
Stone reported we mutually terminated his contract and agreed to pay part of his remaining wages to do so.
Bales relentless trolling of Zidane and co. really is top level stuff.
Doubly so because Real had the chance to get rid and then suddenly went "Er, actually no" at the last knockings. Glorious stuff.
Bale also gets the high ground because he's not turned shit - he was still playing very well and winning stuff
Bogarde didn't really have a chance to prove if he was shit or not, did he? Wasn't there something about one manager never wanted him brought in and then the next one wanted rid but they couldn't find somebody to take the wages?
Don't care. He was training with the under 12s for the three of the four Chelsea years. He played less than 20 games bringing in 40k per week
Third choice goalkeepers in league two probably earn those type of salaries now
Sanchez made a load of appearances for United even if they were garbage so he's not really a Bogarde either and you're discounting Bale because it's basically Madrid's fault.
So surely for the updated example of a Bogarde you're looking for we need a play a club made a big financial commitment to but was barely used and refused to leave?
Ozil will become one soon if he isn't already.
To make things easier, it should just be for players who are on mega-money and not being picked to play
Weve accepted 20m + add ons for Hojberg and in a separate deal have agreed a 12m fee for Walker-Peters.
Happy with 8m+ profit from those two moves. Should be easy enough to replace Hojberg.
Aubameyang apparently agreed to stay until 2023.
And they only had to sacrifice 50 peoples jobs to do it.
I'm sure they would / will all do it but fucking hell, a bit of planning lads.
Liverpool bid of ~£10m + sell on clauses rejected by Norwich. They want double the fee.
Lowballing relegation fodder. The committee strikes again.
In this day and age it’s not like Norwich will have much say in the matter.
I imagine a deal will be reached somewhere in the middle. Shouldn't be too bad for a player who will be mostly benched and filling THE QUOTA.
Steady on, mate, just cause Jurgen's German. Given Milner's legs may go this season, it's actually possibly the most important signing of the window.
£17m bids being talked about from Villa for Origi. Presumably that's for a caste of his dong to compare to their man Davis rather than a serious bid for his contract.
It seems Chairman Kia is stealing his asset from Sporting Lisbon to Arsenal. Is Joelson good? @kiko I refuse to watch Portuguese football.
https://www.skysports.com/football/n...s-expert-panel
They were all written by the same person weren't they.
What a load of bollocks.
The opposition fan: £0
"As a supporter of an unnamed rival club I think Man U have enough blacks and mongrels..."
Didn't realise Messi was out of contract in the summer. That is huge.
He hasn't won a CL after the age of 27 either. FRAUD.
Where would he go if he left? Don't say PSG.
He might fancy moving to United and learning a bit from Danj Ames.
I'd wager he'd go back to Argentina before he'd go to any other European club.
PSG would be a waste of his final years so I doubt that, unless he is actual bezzie mates with Neymar. Would Juventus bring him in to play with Ronnie for ultimate bants?
Qatar.
Napoli if he has any bottle.
Go and play with Iniesta in Japan?
Just seen a rumour of Macheda to Red Star Belgrade, as if he is only 28.
Jamal Lewis.
If Jamal Lewis really is good why don't Chelsea buy him instead of spending 4 times that on Chilwell? Co-opting Liverpool's transfer policy has worked quite well for them in the past.
Didn't they sell a left-back to Brighton because their other left back was so good in December?
Chelsea are after a Spanish left back now rather than 85m on Chilwell which seems sensible
This journalist is reliable for Liverpool I think.
We need a fucking CB, get their two Senegalese BBCs pls.
Used to work with the club, now works for the Athletic. Probably more believable than most.
How voice doesn’t suit his face though. Proper threw me!
5 assists in 20 games. We’ll take him!
Liverpool don’t need anyone.
Sorry I think I was trying to make a point about pacy fullbacks moving to the cb position in a 3 a la Alaba/Kyle Walker/Tierney but got distracted describing cock slobbering.
I was getting ITK in the club with ‘Wilf’
They'll hire that club out for the unveiling Tweet.
On that note, Kyle Walker really is an underrated monster. Sure he looks and talks like a mong but he likes a brass and is just frighteningly good these days.
Also, where tf is that club Zaha is in?
Edit: big up my boy Moise Kean doing bits out there on holiday too :D
What's this Greek leftback like then?
Tsimikas (Tsyoukas).
David Brooks rumours interesting. Good player. Don't really see him as a good fit in Klopp's system though. More like the kind of player Leicester would sign to replace Maddinson. Someone in the league midfield should sign hiim to play every week. I guess maybe we'd be interested if we could get some chumps to part with serious cash for H Wilson.
What's the latest on Sancho?
Dortmund bossmen claim he is staying now as his valuation was not met.
If Dortmund value Sancho at £100m, they need to pay Sancho a contract that justifies that price. If he isnt on that type of contract already.
Bundesliga and prem league windows closes October 5th so there is still time
Zorc has said similar stuff about Dembele, Mkhi and Aubameyang immediately before they left so I don't think it's worth putting much stock in that, but I do think it might actually not happen. Which would be more than a little disappointing.
He definitely didn’t with Auba. They accepted the China offer less than a month before we got him.
Speaking of which, it’s looking like we’ve got him for another 3 years, which is a blessing.
Willian, Gabriel, Coutinho and one of the midfielders we’re linked with (this young Sporting ‘wunderkind’ or Aouar, which seems more fanciful) would be a good Summer I reckon, as long as we also keep Ceballos, which has gone from looking to be a done deal to now 50-50.
Laca to Atletico for £30m is likely, Gendouzhi to Villarreal with Emery is also heavily rumoured. The former I’ll be sad to see leave but I’ve advocated it for some time - Auba through the middle allows Saka and Martinelli to share the left and we’re then looking well stocked.
If Dortmund actually have Sancho on a longer contract than everyone thought they've played a bit of a blinder. There'd no pressure on them to sell now, other than on their own terms, if he has 3 years left to run.
Arteta casting out the frauds. Top binman work.
He could say there for years, to be honest. It's not like it's damaging his England credentials.
The Greek is official.
How many ITK sure fire signings have now fallen through, Randrew?
Should really keep a log of it
Is this your source, Randrew?
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....AC_SL1500_.jpg
In short, no.
Must have missed the "this one is just for laughs" ITK updates as they all seemed fairly the same to me.
Says the one who doesn't know what a bet means.
I watched that adonis make an impressive run in that Olympiakos match last week in EL and I've seen a compilation which seems to indicate it wasn't a one-off, he fucking bombs down there and likes to go in-field as opposed to by-line which should be a very interesting new dimension. Also loves his mad-man tackles. Tasty af, 2nd best leftback in the world behind Robbo.
He's a sexy bastard, make no mistake.
Fully on the pisstake here.
Someone needs to send them screenies of RL's posts. We could go viral.
All that money and not a moisturiser in sight.
There are few better reasons for posting to be fair.
Whatever keeps you going buddy. Keep fighting! You matter!
Meanwhile I see randrew's favorite ITK's have formed some kinda "Super Pro League" I'm guessing on PES and are inviting all of their fans to come SUPPORT their FAVORITE CLUBS.
https://www.reddit.com/r/muppetiers/..._first_stream/
jajajaja unreal.
I heard some ITK guarantee Mahow is moving to Team Wolf.
that's the whole deal isn't it though? Try as you may when you can't extract accurate information from certain parties because they let their own egos get in the way often incorrect conclusions have to be made by certain deadlines with what IS available.
Que lastima.
FLC bidding £50m for Declan Rice.
Flc?
Frank Lampard's Chelsea?
With a view to playing him at centre-half is the weirdest part of that recurring rumour.
Was he not one originally? I think that’s where he played for us.
He's been playing in midfield for West Ham since forever hasn't he?
Apparently we've signed Jeff Hendrick. Meanwhile Jack Colback's finally moved permanently to Notts Forest.
God it's going to be good to see Newcastle attempt to break Derby's record next season off the back of Mbappe talk.
I let a little bit of pee go every time I see some Sarr rumours and my underwear is a little damp this afternoon. Replacing Mane/Salah whikst they're here, god fucking bless how well run we are :***)
F that, when former U17 world cup winner Chukwueze is available for similar money.
Villarreal purging Valencia is top work.
What happened to that left-footed free-kick specialist that was at Bournemouth?
He 'plays' for Liverpool.
Gael Bigirimana is now playing for Glentoran. Man, I had high hopes for him.
Saw Gotze rejected Inter Miami as he wants to play in Europe still. Is he garbage now?
To be fair scoring the winning goal against a Messi lead Argentina in a World Cup Final i mean wtf more could you really want
He should just retire and call it quits. Only 28
Myopathy.
Matuidi has joined Inter Miami on a free as Juve cancelled the final year of his deal.
Has he got anything in his legs to be running around chasing young South American dudes in the Florida sun all day?
My Brighton sources tell me there's a lot of chatter about Lewis Dunk to Chelsea.
Definitely a player who could have stepped up to top 4 level had he gone somewhere 3 or 4 years ago. Not so sure he's the solution to many problems now even though he is decent. Would make sense for Brighton if they can rinse an exorbitant fee for him seeing as the have Bobby Moore incarnate coming back from Leeds if you believe the media.
I don’t think he’s fast enough for anyone who wants to play a high line.
I always rated Dunk whereas Bobby is under 190cm and 10kg lighter. Can't really see how he isn't gonna flop in prem, they should rinse Leeds.
Conflicting news tonight. Liverpool Twitter insists contact has been made over Thiago. €30m asking price. Whereas the Echo insists this isn't true and he isn't a target unless something changes.
Bayern/his agent are clearly making it all up.
Same with the City links. Signing him would be such a massive kick in the balls to Foden I just don't see why they would do it. He's got PSG written all over him. That or become part of the superclub circuit and follow Arturo Vidal.
That Willian deal to Arsenal has been completed. Are they playing three at the back next season. If they are, is Willian going to play RWB?
It seems completely contrary to everything Arteta is trying to do, and I can only imagine is fuelled by pure corruption, as with the ludicrously long Cedric deal.
Sancho to Liverpool then. :eyemouth:
is Jack Grealish really just the white Jesse Lingard?
I think Jesse Lingard is the white Jesse Lingard now.
The Guardian article made it sound like he was being signed as a Tutor ala FM. David Luiz has already been tutoring the defensive players. https://www.theguardian.com/football...hree-year-deal
(FM influences football and not the other way around, obv.)
How Kia Joorabchian to get two wildly expensive Brazilians in their thirties to do that rather than, say, a coaching staff.
Great deal for Willian. I fully expect Auba and Ozil to walk away for free in a years time also.
I thought Auba signed a 3 year extension
Hasn't Willian been Chelsea's best attacking player since the restart (or probably the whole season)?
Long big money deal for someone his age though does seem somewhat fraught with danger, as Mesut Ozil sits there on his £20m-a-season or whatever it is.
He has but Arsenal have doubled his money for three years taking him to 35 years old, so I'm very content for us to go after others.
Did they even have any competition for him seeing as he was insistent on staying in London?
United have signed Filip Stevanovic from Partizan.
Seems he'll stay there on loan for another year.
Fucking hell, not THE Filip Stevanovic ??????
He's rattled, he didn't post any ITK updates about it. Didn't even have a plane spotting.
I'm quite liking our new strategy of giving Butt a relative shit tonne of money to try and hoover up the most promising youngsters from across Europe. Mejbri in particular is going to be a superstar.
Does someone want to search his posts regarding one of the other dogshit Utd kids that is now doing crack in a street corner?
I didn't put up with a decade of mockery for my Susos and Pachecos to now stay silent.
Jan Vertonghen has joined Benfica for free.
Taz, be fair, some of these players will probably look like superstars when they leave United and look much better elsewhere.
We're definitely spunk £60m+ on Angel Gomes at some point.
Dani Pacheco :(
He always looked so good in the age groups. So many frauds in those Spain sides though. Well, and Thiago, Koke, Muniain . . .
Zoran Tosic, Adem Ljajic... #talent
Thiago looking filthy tonight. Jurgen must secure.
Zoran Tosic was absolutely massive for me in FM 1? (13? 14? 15?). Wasted talent.
Angel Gomes is wank and will amount to less than Ravel Morrison.
I don't think Angel Gomes will be amazing but I still think he always looked like he had something about him. I reckon he'll have a half decent career.
The rumours about City signing Messi may lead to new levels of peak lol.
I'd watch Sterling and Messi run into each other for a season.
Messi hasn't ran since 2015.at this stage of their careers, C.Ronaldo is above Messi. For me though, the best Messi is better than the best C.Ronaldo
Around and around the rumour mill we go.
Isn't Liverpool's midfield built entirely on tireless running and pressure? Thiago seems about as far from that type as you can get without signing Adel Taraabt.
In all fairness, that's largely probably down to Milner and Wijnaldum not having the natural genius of Thiago and it's hardly like he hasn't been operating in high press systems all his life but I still don't see it. There has to be anti-competition laws against it, if nothing else.
Yes, though those same players in the middle sometimes struggle to thread a pass through. Someone like Thiago is a lot more attack minded. I'd suggest if it is true, then it's maybe a move to have more ways of beating teams. It'd also probably mean he's on board with getting his fitness and pressing levels up.
A lot of games last season were won late or by a 1 goal margin. Perhaps this is a move to make it more comfortable going forwards. Or maybe Wijnaldum is going and Thiago is the best priced replacement out there.
What's the price €30m? Daylight robbery.
United should really be after him if they need creative spark in midfield.
He's obviously a good player, and I'm probably wrong to be sceptical on so many levels, but he just doesn't seem a good fit either in the way Liverpool play or the way they tend to recruit. He's going to want mega money too. Liverpool's midfielders (the '8s') need to cover the fullbacks, is Thiago going to do that? I'd rather trust Keita to be the locksmith or whatever you want to call that role when it's needed. I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.
The issue is Liverpool not wanting to pay for him and wait 6 months, isn’t it?
Twitter is ablaze. Messi apparently telling Barca(mate) he wants out this summer.
Why doesn't he just act like he plays for any other club and take a pay cut/get his nose out of recruitment decisions?
Newcastle fans will be gutted.
Joe Hart and Tottenham
Chong and Bremen on loan
Vincent Kompany has officially retied and is Andrelecht permanent manager
Éverton is a Benfica player for £18m