Felix plays the exact same role/position as Havertz i.e. one that doesn't really exist in current tactics. Absolutely bizarre transfer.
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Felix plays the exact same role/position as Havertz i.e. one that doesn't really exist in current tactics. Absolutely bizarre transfer.
To be honest if our entire transfer strategy is just to sit refreshing David Ornstein's twitter account, see what Arsenal are up to and then try to hijack it, that would probably be better than the morons using their own ideas.
CL I guessQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
If we dig up Pelé and reanimate him to 1961 spec we're still not getting CL.
1958 Santos version though, you win the league.
All you need is Kante to go beast mode again tbf. In before Giggles, but his performances against Atletico/Real Madrid/Man City in the knockouts were genuinely as good as it gets for a footballer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I'm trying to think of the last six month loan deal that worked out. Landon Donovan?
Martin Odegaard.
What about the last successful transfer out of 'Atleti'? Rodri? Feels like they have a high rate of selling players who turn out to be shite and end up back there on loan a year or so later.
I have nothing against the great little man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
Kanté at his best is/was the best who has played for Chelsea. Better than the best Lampard, better than the best Terry. Maybe Big Game Dider Drogba beats him, but overall Drogba probably not quite.
Peter Osgood, I was going to say Glenn Hoddle but he wasn't peak Hoddle then, Gianfranco Zola?
I like Kanté but come on.
The best midfielder since Sulley Muntari.
With Jimmy to some extent (if not all) on Kante. A ridiculously good player.
That scout at Leicester around the time should have been on some serious win bonuses.
He got a multi million pound job at Everton and proceeded to sign Alex Iwobi for 40 million quid. They can't all be winners.
Zola was my childhood hero but none of these guys were the best in the world, Kanté was.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
There's a reason we magically went from complete shit to winning the league over the summer of 2016, and it sure as hell wasn't Victor Moses playing wing back.
Perhaps I misunderstood your point. I would never have the likes of Kanté or Ashley Cole as Chelsea greats, even if they were for a while among the best in their particular positions.
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Kante the type of player that if he's on it, then the other team just isn't winning. Simples.
Kanté was a penalty shoot out away (twice) from winning the League Cup which would have seen him win every possible trophy at club level with Chelsea. He’s surely up there. Cole won everything other than the Super Cup and CWC so he can’t be far off either but I guess he also won a decent amount at Arsenal.
I said he's the best who's played for Chelsea.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Not sure what he is other than a Chelsea great, mind - played 222 times for Chelsea, 40 times for Leicester and 122 in France as well as his 53 internationals.
We signed Jacob Butterfield instead. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
I like to think that the Boro twitter admin actually did make an urgent call to the manager's office. 'Yes, I know this isn't my job, but there's this bloke called Dennis Abbott on twitter, and he says....'
He'd have been there for about 6 months anyway so probably no big loss. Either that or they'd have made him shite.
Where does Kanté stand vis a vis someone like Essien? Another very good player, in a better era for the club, with a similar number of appearances? I think my view of Kanté is clouded somewhat by the fact that of late he never seems to play and Chelsea have been pretty rubbish for most of the time he's been there.
Essien was very good but more of a complement to those around him. Kanté could get you out of trouble on his own, and in 2016-19 did so pretty much every week.
Is he properly fucked now, or is there a chance he could get back near that level for another couple of years?
Probably the former, although I see they're trying to offer him another contract.
mate this is the third half, not some gimpy facebook page - I think you're a bit confused dot com!! :charm: :charm:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
His hamstrings are made of cheese strings. I think he always gets rushed back though (France haven’t helped with that) and looks like they’re having him have surgery this time so we’ll see if he’s still a crock come March time. Back in time to dominate European football once again. (Unlike last season where he was at fault for both Madrid goals after Chelsea were 3-0 up)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Kante basically won the WC for France doing two people's jobs with Pogba ambling around alongside him doing nothing
I hope Chelsea sign Pedro Porro just so we get some Terry/Bridge scenes all over again with Porro and Joao Felix
Huge.
The right replacement is Bas Dost, so now it's just a question of whether Besiktas can find him.
Who does he play for, Besiktas or Burnley? The tweet makes no sense.
He's currently on loan to Besiktas from Burnley for the season. United are paying Besiktas to end that loan six months early.
He didn't, but I quite like this narrative that everything good about any team he is involved him is down to him. And not Vardy and Mahrez being brilliant at Leicester (I mean, Danny Drinkwater left that summer too), and not Diego Costa (and Hazard) going dam busters at Chelsea. Matuidi did as much for that France side, and Varane, Griezmann and Mbappe did more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
I also find it quite funny how in the era of 'flesh drones' being a critique from certain quarters that the original gets a bit of a pass.
He's obviously got good PR.
It’s absolutely bizarre. He’ll make about 10 appearances and maybe score twice. They might as well just dig up Ighalo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
As Holland showed he can be a bit of a difference maker off the bench, at the very least.
Did you ever watch him? He's like a ball hoover. He reads the game, anticipates, gets his body in all kinds of comfortable and uncomfortable shapes, nicks it with unbelievable accuracy, twists or bursts out of trouble, and has a very strong range of passing as well. He does all of this for 90 minutes, which - far from being a pressing drone - is because he is brilliant at deploying his energy at the optimal moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I've never seen another player remotely similar to him even in style. I would call him the Gerd Müller of midfielders.
I don't dispute he's a very good player, and I think his footballing ability is often overlooked, I just don't see him as some sort of transcendental difference maker. In the same way I don't see that is Busquets, who does all of the above with added skullduggery and racism thrown in as well.
Matuidi was played on the Pogba-side wing just to do his defensive work for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
It's pocket change for a back-up loan striker because when Martial gets injured we have no backup (literally none).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
The big signing in the summer will be a centre forward (fuck knows who though).
At the Rickie Lambert stage of things but a run of playing shite and scraping wins has given them delusions of such grandeur. Gonna be a shame to see the demise in the 2nd half of the season.
'Kobbie Mainoo' is a stabs somebody stealing a phone name if ever there was one.
Saw someone on twitter refer to the pair of them as 'mythfielders' earlier :DQuote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
I always thought Havertz would be a great Firmino replacement at Liverpool.
Havertz is going to end up being added to the long list of players who are world class everywhere else but Chelsea.
That said, there is a real limp dick energy about him a lot of the time, which I'm not sure is Chelsea-specific. Same with Pulisic.
Hanoi Police have signed former ARSENAL ACE!!
Eternal kudos awarded to anyone who guesses the player....
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Havertz must be infuriating to a Chelsea fan. He shows glimpses where he makes football look too easy and you think he should tear it up, but he never does. Having said that, I don't have a clue what his position is and seemingly neither do his managers nor himself.
He's playing as a 9 because we don't have anyone else, and haven't had anyone else for the last few years as all the 9s we buy undergo the Operation and are therefore shite. He shouldn't be playing there and isn't that good at it. What he is good at is playing behind a 9, albeit in a 4-3-3 world there is no such spot so in all likelihood we will end up selling him to Barcelona for Ł80 million and then spunking the proceeds on cheeseburgers and coca-cola.
Yeah, he's sort of a '10' or, in Bundesliga terms, any one of the forward players who have no defensive responsibilities [such roles not really existing in English football]. He always look big enough, and skillful enough to hold the ball as a sort of 9 and bring other players into play, which is why I thought he'd flourish under Klopp/in a similar role to what Firmino carved out for himself.