Celebs who are now dead

I think you generally have to win to be able to decide what is just, so, I dunno, if you manage to overthrow whatever construct you are opposed to? Trying to rationlise the right to not be beholden to the laws of any given land just sounds a bit sovereign citizen to me, which I think we generally deride in most contexts.

Also, from a semantic point of view, which is what the devil's advocate question was about, I don't think individuals or even non-state actors can actually declare war on something in the international law sense of that term.

Killing = bad.
Killing bad people = good.

Seems legit.

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Originally Posted by Ben

Just playing devil's advocate here. Why does one country deciding to declare war on another (eg. Russia on Ukraine), suddenly making killing people acceptable?

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It doesn’t if you’re the aggressor, it does if you’re the other side.

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

It doesn’t if you’re the aggressor, it does if you’re the other side.

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Now just to carry on the analogy, wasn’t the CEO’s company the aggressor in that they’ve freely admitted denying claims for spurious reasons. These actions have resulted in unnecessary deaths.

So by acting on behalf of those that have unnecessarily died as a result of UnitedHealth’s actions, Mangione isn’t the aggressor. The fact he used a gun as his weapon of choice shouldn’t be a factor.

What if he beat him to death with a dildo?

Only if it's the Ann Summers CEO.

Lots of bootlicking in here by the usual suspects I see.

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Originally Posted by Spikey M

I mean, how many tears did you cry when Osama Bin Laden got shot in the face? Not many, I imagine. Why would anyone sympathise with a scumbag dying?

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Don't you kick people out of council houses for a living?

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Don't you kick people out of council houses for a living?

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When it's warranted, yes. The man I secured possession against today has spent the last 3 months hosting all night parties for his druggy friends while his neighbours call the police on a nightly basis.

However, my actual job is sustaining tenancies and trying to prevent evictions by addressing problem behaviour. What a monster.

Do you have KPIs for secured houses?

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Originally Posted by Spikey M

When it's warranted, yes. The man I secured possession against today has spent the last 3 months hosting all night parties for his druggy friends while his neighbours call the police on a nightly basis.

However, my actual job is sustaining tenancies and trying to prevent evictions by addressing problem behaviour. What a monster.

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I'm sure I would agree with most of your decisions, but it wouldn't be a massive stretch for somebody else to see you as part of the problem and/or a wider societal problem.

He should evict more people tbh. Help with the insane housing costs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgny622w0zo

Aubrey Plaza's husband.

David Lynch. Rip to one of the greatest.

That's a big one.

Very few true originals exist in the world of art (or life in general, I suppose) so it's always a blow when one of them is no longer around.

Denis Law. Would have pegged him for dead already if pushed.

Not sure I'd have said he was dead, but I also wouldn't have thought he was 84.

Think I would have gone with the former in an either or question.

One of the true great footballers and a gentleman. Sad.

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Originally Posted by Yevrah

Denis Law. Would have pegged him for dead already if pushed.

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When I started reading this I was worried where it was heading.

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And then uploaded to Yevfet.com

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Originally Posted by Dquincy

When I started reading this I was worried where it was heading.

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:D

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Originally Posted by Dquincy

When I started reading this I was worried where it was heading.

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Marianne Faithfull.

Why D’ya Do It? is probably one of my top 10 [non-Elliott Smith] songs of all time. :(

Paul Danan.

Rod Hull, if were going that far back.

Atleast I've heard of Rod Hull too.

Just missed Tony Hart died day.

Tony Martin, British hero.

Probably Norfolk’s greatest after Nelson.

Paddy Barclay

I think I'm more shocked by the fact he was 77.

Guess the Sunday Supplement hasn't been on for a long time.

I used to love that show and then it got to a point where Jimmy Hill was deteriorating in front of my eyes and it got very sad. Was like watching Granddad get his driving license taken away.

His pronunciation of 'Uruguay' in the history of world football DVDs about 20 years ago will live on in my heart.

Henry Kelly.

Used to love Going for Gold.

Strangely an eternal legend of the Surrey cricket league, after he was inexplicably booked as the guest speaker at the Oval end of season awards one year (usually it's an ex cricketer of some sort). He completely misunderstood the brief, started telling earnest stories of his youth in Ireland, was heckled by the hundreds of bored guests, then ended up being booed off stage and stormed out of the Oval in a drunken rage, swearing and gesticulating at all those who had come expecting gags.

For the next 20 years every guest speaker has been introduced '...but sadly Henry Kelly wasn't available, so we had to settle for Dominic Cork' or whatever. As such Henry, despite being a piece of shit, will live on in my heart.

Michelle Trachtenberg :(
So hot in Euro trip

Fuck me, she was amazing. Must have been about my age too. What did for her?

Sounds like OD / suicide.

The old 'not suspicious'

39 as well, so 'about my age' may be flattering yourself slightly.

Yeah was surprised to see that. 5 year difference.

Henry Kelly only being 78 is a surprise, he seemed that old when he was on Going for Gold.

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The theme tune for Going For Gold was composed by Hans Zimmer, who went on to become a hugely successful film and TV composer.

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I suppose you've got to start somewhere.

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I suppose you've got to start somewhere.

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Simon Cowells big break was the Wrestlemania themetune.

Michelle Trachtenberg had already had a liver transplant and it seems like she had been nonced in the industry so sadly an early death had been on the cards for a while.

The 'entertainment' industry.

Whilst Paul Gadd and Alec Baldwin still live. If you're not an asshole and a vulnerable character, you'll probably die early. So sad.

It really did a number on Ellen Page.

Gene Hackman dead too.

Shinners out here deadnaming.