34 missiles to kill 5 people. They really be hitting those civillian hubs.
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34 missiles to kill 5 people. They really be hitting those civillian hubs.
Lewis being a Russian bot is a weird turn of events.
Not really. He’s been like this for years. Just says the opposite of what the majority of the board say and types a lot of words from what he’s found off right wing Twitter.
I think he's just a fan of WAR, regardless of who is doing the WARRING.
He's a classical realist, a la Morgenthau, Bismarck, Metternich, Clausewitz et al. How this comes across in the context of modern discourse is as an unusual affinity for the strong prevailing and lack of sympathy with the underdog.
The opposite to him would be all the Scandis who love the UN and want a world government.
That is about right, at least as far as other countries are concerned. Plus I try not to just believe any old shite, i.e. that Russia has deliberately aimed everything at civilians and somehow only killed five people. Even with Ukrainian casualty reporting that doesn't make a lot of sense, even if they were also the five people who kept the lights on in all the cities whose infrastructure wasn't hit.
Was looking at reported casualty figures earlier which was very interesting, if not for the fact Russians aren't having the reported disasterclass then simply for the incredible level of Ukranian disinformation and the dirty West's thirst to drink it up.
The Russian war effort seems to be unravelling. Russian military bloggers are great sources for information because they're pro-Russia (so not peddling that pesky Western agenda) but aren't afraid to report the truth and criticise those who need criticising (even including Putin recently).
The missile attacks are clearly an attempt by Putin to appease these war thirsty fellas but it's not even been a week since and they're already back to slating every fucker in the Kremlin and Army again. The Commander of the Southern Army has been arrested just because things aren't going too well and already handfuls of the general public who were mobilised a few weeks ago (and promised proper training and supplies) are already back home in coffins. One blogger has estimated 10,000 deaths and 40,000 injured by February and the conscripts are of such low quality that they won't even change the course of the war. :cab:
And now apparently they're saying all offensives have been halted in Donetsk Oblast (the only region they've taken any territory in weeks) due to extremely low morale and inability to perform in combat.
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...-says-12721651
I couldn't think of a worst time for that to happen.
If I had to place bets I reckon it's a false flag by the Wagner Group or Chechen fella to get Putin to start missile attacks again. They're raging he's called it off.
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Russia continues to conduct massive, forced deportations of Ukrainians that likely amount to a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign in addition to apparent violations of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Marat Khusnullin stated on October 14 that “several thousand” children from Kherson Oblast are “already in other regions of Russia, resting in rest homes and children’s camps.” ... Russian authorities openly admitted to placing children from occupied areas of Ukraine up for adoption with Russian families in a manner that may constitute a violation of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.
As much as it's clearly terrible, that's a pretty liberal use of the word genocide. Unless the kids are being housed with Russians because their parents have been massacred, which I appreciate is a possibility.
It's in the definition of genocide so nothing liberal about it.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
Not having it. If they ain't killing, they ain't genociding.
Add the referendums and the passing out of Russian passports, yeah. Genocide, just not entirely around ethnic mass murder.
Still doesn't sit with me, though.
Annexation and genocide, it'a a good job the white man stands against such atrocities so that we can keep order in this world of ours.
Russia used the weird shit Ukraine was doing around Russian culture/language to claim they were preventing a 'genocide', such is the wooliness of the original definition. Their mistake was conflating it with Nazism and the Holocaust, because then the alarm went off and everyone had to strengthen the definition to protect their specialness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Did we technically genocide Shamima Begum?
Apparently this was a couple of Muslims from Tajikistan. They got drafted against their will, turned up to training and saying it wasn't their war to fight. The ethnic Russian commander said Allah was a coward so they shot the place up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
That's quite the reverse heel turn.
https://media.tenor.com/J1xL3h2cJ-0A...eve-austin.gif
Looks like they possibly may have hit it now. All gone very silent on Guardian last few days about the wonderful Ukranian advances so I expect Russia are doing great things out there. Got on Russia at 2.6 just before yesterday's suicide drone attack :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...815558145.html
Yeah tremendous work.Quote:
A Shahed-136 (the loitering munition used in the attacks on Kiev today) carries 88 pounds of explosives. By comparison a typical 155mm artillery round (M795) has 23.8 pounds of explosives. So it's about 3 shells worth of explosion without the consistent fragmentation.
28 launched, 23 intercepted, 5 functioned. So the overall effect is about fifteen shells worth of explosives fired at a very large city. That's not a lot (ignoring the very real mental effects of being under long range fire no matter the actual numbers involved).
By comparison, a 1944 V-2 rocket designed for such bombardments carried 2,200 pounds of explosives.
All of this is just to say that if you've somehow deluded yourself into thinking bombing civilians will work for you, this is a really poor system with which to do it.
'Bombing civilians'. I'd love to big them up as a fantastic tool but I heard the Russians had to reduce their load even further than our original models in order to install an improved navigation system. May possibly be an Iron Dome situation where they cost a fair amount of resources to defend against?
Either way, we're shit and we know we are http://www.persianfootball.com/forum...s/iranflag.gif
Do the Russians even have any catchy songs about their drones?
It says a lot for their own stockpiles when they're having to use more and more Iranian imports. Meanwhile it seems Ukraine will have access to infinite Western ammunition. This is no doubt the reason Putin is wanting to freeze the frontlines over the winter, so their factories can catch up. Lots of Russian milbloggers openly talking about their depleted arsenals.
When Yev finally makes The Sitcom he needs to do an episode based on Taz called "The Stereotype".
You misspelt bore.
Yeah, Russians taking advantage of other countries' weaponry sounds like real desperate manouveres. Also, the West's supplies, although likely to outlast Russia's, are far from infinite.
I think it's a really important part of the war now as the new Kiev push kicks in. Next few weeks will be really interesting.
Infinite or not, it doesn't matter. Russia are completely dependent on Iran, which can only end in tears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Iran has thousands of really quite good missiles, and so does Syria if need be. Israel would be silly to get involved as well seeing as Russia and Iran are the only thing that stands between Palestinians and serious weaponry. The interesting thing at the moment is hits against Ukrainian air defence, which, coupled with bombers moving around, means something a bit bigger might be getting dropped somewhere in time for the cold.
The Russians are fleeing Kherson but also taking as many residents as possible on the way out. The Ukrainians have advanced like 20km in a day or two and are almost at city limits. They're going to nuke it on the way out aren't they? No way they let Ukraine just have it back.
Flood it, nuke it, nerve gas the evacuees, let's have a game of Surovikin bingo.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-russia-costsQuote:
Originally Posted by Don
:huhu:
Ukrainian jets are reusable. Downed Iranian drones, less so.
Ahhhh they're going to breach the dam and flood the area, not nuke the city. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Remember this when Russia say it was the Ukrainians who did it. They're already laying the groundwork to do a false flag. Hence the open admission that they're leaving Kherson rather than be seen domestically to lose it in a fight.
Tactical flooding. Not terror flooding.
Sabotage in Shetland causing WW3. :harold:
What?
They were cut off from the Faroes, and now Mainland Scotland. No internet or telephone.
Didn't we used to have a Shetlander? Toby?
Early signs that the reverse ferret is happening in Kherson.
Why did Putin bother annexing it? He looks like a twat now, should have stuck to Luhansk and Donetsk.
Land corridor to Crimea.
I saw a satellite image on Twitter of a temporary barge bridge they built to get military supplies back to the east bank and it's why they're seemingly randomly transporting 50k Ukrainian residents across at the same time; they're basically the human shield so Ukraine can't bomb them in the process.
Keep calm and let the Ukranian immigrant wave into mainland Europe do God's work.
Some recent crazy footage:
Russia talking up Ukraine setting off a dirty nuclear bomb to up the ante in this war.
At least I won't have to worry about my gas bill when all the superpowers start lobing nuclear bombs at each other..
It's purely a line by Russia to get Western countries to back off with their support because it's going tits up for them in Kherson and Luhansk. It's probably not going to work though.
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Surely they haven't used a still with a clapperboard in it?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63378613
Russian state broadcaster RT has suspended and condemned one of its top presenters, Anton Krasovsky, after he called for the burning and drowning of Ukrainian children.
In the interview Krasovsky smirked as he said "just drown those children, drown them". Alternatively, he said, they could be shoved into huts and burned.
He also joked about Russian soldiers raping Ukrainian grandmothers.
Yikes.