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AI Kanye. You can now have an AI artist cover any other track. This literally just sounds like 2005 Kanye.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hd_...el=YeezyBeaver
AI Kanye. You can now have an AI artist cover any other track. This literally just sounds like 2005 Kanye.
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-digital-minds
The letter is an interesting read.
And the reply will be 'lol' .
I'm with Elon. Don't like any of it whatsoever.
Add me to that list too. Lazy cunts will lap it up in the short term but it’s really bad news overall.
This will be the end of us.
It's just predictive text on steroids lads, calm down.
Realistically they will have to bring in universal basic income if it achieves a fraction of it's potential, because if it puts 90% of people out of work the economy will collapse. Who is going to buy coffees and sandwiches from train stations in that scenario?
I was saying exactly that to a bloke at work this morning who was buzzing ChatGPT is being integrated into Microsoft Office.
And the internet was once just a repository for information and porn. Elon's right, albeit ironically so given he co-founded Open AI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
It's the biggest discovery since fire tbh. The cult of work is coming crashing down. :drool:
Exciting times.
Confirmed.
I can't say I can see much of a positive to this stuff. I mean, maybe it can solve some problems for us, but it's going to make us it's bitch in the process.
The key is to work in an archiac backwards industry where a lot of information isn't written down and people are actively afraid of writing some information down incase it becomes the basis of some protracted dispute. Safe until it spawns those little robots from Minority Report scurrying round grabbing all the analog info.
Sounds great doesn't it, leisure for everyone. Can AI wait tables or clean lavatories?Quote:
Originally Posted by -james-
Best case would be we all end up like those floating fat-blobs-in-chairs from Wall-E. Worst case, the entire structure of human society is completely undermined and we all end up killing and eating each other.
The widespread rejection of technology and rethinking of society is the sweet sweet fruits that humanity can harvest. But I'll settle for the simple anarchy that awaits.
You have to think about this logically. AI starts doing let's say even 30% of current jobs that exist (in the developed world, I'm not sure it's going to start tending the paddy fields in Java, although who knows). Tax base collapses overnight - and I think, left to its own devices, this will happen very quickly - as do the livelihoods of 30% of people. Is there alternative profitable work that those 30% of people can do? Maybe there is some. Maybe with all the extra leisure time there will be extra demand for hand-crafted necklaces or sex toys or something and everyone will earn a living making those, but let's say there isn't. Companies who use AI are now being more productive for far less input, but 30% of consumers have fallen out of the economy, reducing demand for many things. A massive recession ensues. AI makes the efficiencies required to downscale to the new reality. You now have a massively holed-out economy in which what is being done is being done cheaply and to maximum efficiency, but there is just far less of it. The haves will take drastic measures to shore up their position; the have-nots, with no tax base able to generate the income required for a welfare state, will at best beg or scrap for survival and at worst, starve to death. From there it's a pretty clear spiral of doom towards things like war, disease and so on. Societies without AI, or with very limited AI, will be in a far better position as there will be far greater societal stability and none of these shocks (in the name of commercial efficiency) will have to have happened.
Tell me why I'm wrong.
Wrong, perhaps; but ridiculously dramatic, for sure.
I don't think it's dramatic at all. What is dramatic is the rate of improvement of these things.
Strongly agree Jim. It's easily solved with UBI (as AI will dramatically increase efficiency of the economy to compensate) but you know how that goes.
Who's paying for the UBI if the tax base falls to bits?
It will have to be taxed at source (ie. the people that remain rich and in control of the AI). Continuing to allow money to disappear into offshore tax havens will quickly spiral into full-blown anarchy when significant (ever increasing) masses of the population have got nothing to lose.
So again, in a best case scenario you have a cabal of Andrew Carnegie type characters funding the continued survival of the rest of the population out of the goodness of their hearts. Governments will have to regulate AI out of the picture, or heavily restrict its use, before anything like this happens.
Maybe we can get rid of VAR at the same time.
Can we focus on tackling fish being microwaved in the workplace before we move onto other existential threats? Priorities.
All I'm hearing is free accommodation and a fulfilling life of gardening and sunbathing.
That would be the preference because otherwise it's full blown communism to avert anarchy and that would get lolled out of sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
You're wrong because it will create an entire new set of jobs which aren't conceivable today. Just as the loom operators, chimney sweeps and typists disappeared and we have machine learning scientists and digital product designers nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I think Douglas Adams nailed it really:
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I've come up with a set of rules that describe our reactions to technologies:
1. Anything that is in the world when you’re born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works.
2. Anything that's invented between when you’re fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it.
3. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things
I jumped straight from 1 to 3.
It's arguable that some companies/individuals have more power than governments and countries already, but under that scenario they absolutely will do and it's a scary thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I don't think it's arguable, I think it's fact. Financial institutions have been dictating the world for decades at this point and the jobs at the top of those organisations are pretty much hereditary. Or atleast certainly not awarded on merit.
It's amusing to see the fear of AI finally reach the common folk.
And that the main fear is 'it'll take jobs!'
All AI has done for my job is give us another task to do. I maintain AI can't really dish out informed opinions. It can only pretend.
This is a short range fear. If you leave it unchecked forever then obvs it will strangle us all and make us into sausage rolls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
As long as I can eat some of them before my turn comes I'm good.
As previously noted the AI your job is using is a clapped out Reliant Robin compared to the latest iterations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
While the concerns raised about AI causing unemployment, collapsing the tax system, and increasing inequality are valid, the situation is not entirely bleak. With the right policies and measures, the potential negative impacts of AI can be mitigated, and societies can continue to thrive. Here are some ways to address the potential challenges:
1. Education and reskilling: Governments and businesses can invest in education and training programs to help workers acquire new skills and transition into new roles. This will allow them to participate in the AI-driven economy and find alternative, profitable work.
2. Progressive taxation and corporate responsibility: Governments can implement progressive taxation policies to ensure that companies benefiting from AI technologies contribute fairly to the tax system. This can help maintain a strong tax base and fund welfare programs.
3. Universal basic income (UBI): Some governments have considered implementing a universal basic income to provide a financial safety net for those affected by unemployment due to AI. This can help reduce poverty and inequality, as well as stimulate demand in the economy.
4. Encouraging local and artisanal industries: As AI takes over certain jobs, there may be a growing demand for locally-produced, artisanal, and unique products. Supporting these industries can help create new jobs and economic opportunities.
5. Focus on human-centric jobs: Some jobs, such as those in healthcare, education, and social services, require a human touch and empathy that AI cannot replace. Encouraging growth in these sectors can help absorb displaced workers and maintain societal stability.
6. International cooperation: Governments can work together to establish global regulations and standards for AI development and deployment. This can ensure that AI is used responsibly and ethically and prevent a race to the bottom in terms of labor standards and tax policies.
7. Rethinking economic growth: Societies may need to reconsider their focus on economic growth and prioritize well-being, sustainability, and social equity. This can involve adopting new economic models, such as circular or doughnut economics, which aim to balance economic development with social and environmental considerations.
8. Strengthening social safety nets: Governments can strengthen social safety nets by investing in healthcare, education, and affordable housing. This can help create a more resilient society that is better equipped to handle the disruptions caused by AI and automation.
9. Promoting innovation and entrepreneurship: Encouraging innovation and entrepreneurship can help create new industries and job opportunities. Governments can support this by providing funding, resources, and a favorable regulatory environment for start-ups and small businesses.
10. Investing in public infrastructure and services: By investing in public infrastructure and services, governments can create jobs and stimulate economic activity. This can help offset the job losses caused by AI and automation while improving the overall quality of life for citizens.
By adopting a comprehensive approach that combines these measures, governments and societies can address the challenges posed by AI and automation while ensuring that the benefits are shared by all. This can help prevent the collapse of the tax system, a global economic downturn, and the rise of inequality. Instead, AI can be harnessed to improve productivity, drive innovation, and create a more equitable and sustainable future for all.
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A whole lot of faith being put into Governments there.
"with the right policies"
So definitely not happening in the UK (or US) then.
That’s exactly where I stopped reading. As if any government would break the habit of a lifetime with those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
What jobs is AI actually going to do?
I should think in fairly short order it will be able to do almost anything that doesn't involve physical or emotional input. Probably not great news for accountants tbh.
It will touch at least the bottom rung of pretty much every sector apart from care and really hands on stuff like plumbing/bartending. I saw that the new GPT scored in the 90th percentile for the bar exam the other day.
I obviously don't have the answers to Jimmy's concerns, but it is definitely here.
I'm not sure I buy this. When chimney sweeps went out it was because no one burned fires anymore, and the demand went somewhere else. With AI, we're still going to be burning fires, it's just that we won't need to employ a human to sweep the chimney afterwards. You also don't need to fund a complex education system to generate chimney sweeps, which you do with machine learning scientists and digital product designers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
I suppose you could forecast there will be an increased demand for OG human services in an AI dominated world. Like, you could have an app where someone pays you £20 to come and have a chat for a bit.
You'll still need someone to paint the thing, install the thing, bake the thing, build the thing etc. Also someone to verify the AI response/diagnosis/code - which is a whole new raft of jobsQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Will you? If the AI is good enough it's likely to be better at all that stuff than a human ever could be, as Keanu Reeves proved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
Depends on what you consider manual, they invented robot bricklayers years ago. Powerful AI could probably use them to their promised potential. Lights out factories have been going for years too. Apparently in logistics some big corporate warehouses are nearly 100% automated, just the HGV's that are human operated.
If AI leads to even a fraction of these widespread social upheaval fantasies then Day One is every wealthy nation slamming its borders fucking SHUT.