I must be missing something with Coutinho, don't get it at all. Would cash in all day if I were making decisions at Liverpool Football Club.
I must be missing something with Coutinho, don't get it at all. Would cash in all day if I were making decisions at Liverpool Football Club.
How much would it take? Another world record? He's good but he's not that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
He's a prime example that spectacular goals can cover up a multitude of ills.
It's less about the money and more about keeping too players. Liverpool don't need the cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
They can buy 96 statues with the money.
Does anyone need the cash anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Logically, they're past that point already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
However, maybe the bigger issue at play is that Klopp wants him to stay, and the price of letting him go (for the club) may be to lose Klopp when Bayern come knocking, which will probably be sooner rather than later (maybe that's a lost cause as well). It's realistically too late to replace him (it's always too late once you've got them money, £75m for some spastic from West Ham isn't a replacement) so the cost could also be effectively giving up on the season/being in the CL next year. Now, I'm not sure he's that good/influential (certainly not Suarez levels) but he's certainly their best player so it would be a big loss.
Ideally he agrees to stay a year, they do well enough to be able to sign Keita next summer for his release clause (and Ross and The Ox on Bosmans, natch) and then he goes wherever (PSG) for even dafter money after donning the world cup.
It's the mistaken belief that there are only 50 odd decent players in the world that is partly responsible for this ridiculous bubble.
Yes. Did you not hear Rafa's massive moan this morning?Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
He'll stay until next summer and unless we get close to winning the League or the CL he'll be off.
I reckon above £100m and our owners would see it as too good to turn down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
The troubling thing is who we'd then replace him with. I'd not normally say he's irreplaceable but in the current market he kind of is, simply for clubs essentially demanding what they want for their players now.
We don't need the money, but we do need our better players. I still don't think we'll sell him this summer. Unless the bid reaches mental levels, even for this window.
Oh most definitely, but they could've offered less than that and probably got him before the Neymar deal. Now £80m probably won't even buy you Michy Batshuayi, given Andre fucking Gray just moved for nearly £20m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Well, indeed, but Liverpool's scouting network doesn't extend far beyond the boundaries of Hampshire, and no one who considers themselves in any way relevant is interested in 'taking a risk' on a player (unless entirely by accident) any more, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Big Jerry Corbyn's incoming government will sort all this out.
Ninety million is still a massive amount of money, and whilst Liverpool appear to be in reasonable financial health at this moment in time, they might need it down the line. Using the Lewis Rule (yes), this would be like United turning down £150 million for somebody they consider indispensable (Dave Gayer), so I think he will go if they get closer to a hundred.
Coutinho isn't Messi, but he's Liverpool's best player and has consistently been the most effective attacking player for about two seasons now. He wins games that other players in the squad won't.
If he's sold, it would be another example of losing an important player to, ostensibly, a bigger club. It sets a tone which Klopp (and the owners, presumably) are deliberately trying to move away from; that is, that they'll inevitably have to sell the best players to Tier One clubs and then try and find the next player who'll leave in four years' time themselves.
I think they need to hold firm, if they're remotely serious about doing anything. Lallana is injured until January, Sturridge can barely walk, the purchases are distinctly underwhelming. One hundred million plus sounds great, but unless you have a serious programme for investing it and not just throwing it at shite in a panic then you might as well hold onto the player. He can be sold next year for 75% of the fee they'd get this year, and at least everybody can pretend it's part of a plan and not the obvious perpetuation of SECOND TIER STATUS it actually is.
It could be Liverpool's ye...
It very evidently will not be, but you're basically conceding the point on even consolidation of top four if he's sold and replaced by Manuel Lanzini for an almost inevitably ludicrous fee.
Presumably that 'future securing' mega deal Coutinho signed in January is going to cost a fortune to pay-off in 'loyalty bonus' (lol), which makes me think he's going to have to put in a transfer request (thereby forgoing that?). From that perspective wanting things to be amicable between the clubs takes on a different light.
I like the explicit (!) So we know it was sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Poor old Danny Rose isn't happy on 65k p/w.
In fairness, in the market it's piss poor for the likes of him. The only wonder is that more of their players aren't moaning. Isn't Kane only on 100k?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Levy will probably extort £40m + Luke Shaw out of United for Rose.
It's quite lol to call out Levy for being Levy literally two days before the season starts.
EDIT: It says a lot about Twitter that the main problem people have is not that a middling player in a top six side is crying about being on £65,000 a week or only coming 2nd/3rd in the league, but that he's given an interview to The Sun, who seem to be far worse in the Twitter imagination than anything the Third Reich ever came up with. It's a newspaper, lads.
Hasn't he been injured for 50% of the time he's been decent?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Also, is he actually any good? He looked shit under every other manager and Pochettino also made Luke Shaw look a world beater.
Your opinions are hilarious sometimes. Danny Rose is an excellent player.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
He's better than Walker for sure, and is by far the best wide threat on the team. He does perish pretty often thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
He's an excellent full back. You can always replace a full back. We just won the league with Alonso and Moses, who are both shit.
Your concept of what good and shit are is tied directly to prestige and to wages, so by definition someone on low wages is not a good player. It's like when you said that the Chelsea team is worse than the City team because the wage bill is a bit lower. It's a circular argument and makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Theoretically, losing Rose would leave us with Ben Davies and we wouldn't beat a single player on the flanks for the rest of the season.
My Untited supporting mate has been crying for weeks about City spending big on defenders, with Walker being his most upsetting because 'you should just get full backs from your academy' along with how it's silly money.
I really hope United spend big on Rose just to hear him explain how it's ok for united to do it.
Considering the Full backs are the only wide threat that's not that big a deal. Actually, Trippier has great assist stats so I'm not even sure that's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
Thing is we don't even have someone who could play on the wing if we suddenly decided to play that way. Son, maybe, but you wouldn't really trust him to get past anyone.
Trippier has a good cross yeah but not much else. I really don't have high hopes for him.
Ok, that was mean on Son. He's pretty good.
It's not. It's tied directly (directly!) to their capacity as individuals (Note: this is not the same as how well they do in a team). Rose is a good full back (better than the Chelsea pair mentioned) and beats men on the flanks, but were you to sell him you could recruit a replacement much more easily than you could recruit a similarly effective replacement for Kane, Eriksen, Alli or even arguably Lloris or Alderweireld. Ergo, he is a middling player in Tottenham's XI.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
The amount of chin-stroking horseshit you come up with while accusing me of chin-stroking horseshit is remarkable.
Looks like Shane Long is off to Burnley to replace Andre Grey.
Still can't quite believe we spent 15m on him.
Considering you spent similar on Osvaldo, I'd call him a bargain.
Yeah, he's more replaceable than Alderweireld, Alli, Dembele but he is one of the best full-backs in the league and would easily get double the wages elsewhere etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
It's horseshit when you deliberately phrase it like "middling player at top 6 team". Best left-back in the league though mate of course yeah but also middling in a mediocre team. He's within his rights to cry about 65k a year. He's not gonna get that much more at Tottenham ofc
He's no Nacho man.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
Osvaldo was a crazy transfer especially considering Pochettino had worked with him before. Hopefully our new number 9 works out.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Glad to see Long getting more games at least probably. For a while anyway, until Burnley figure out he's horribly inconsistent too.
Wish you better luck than oursQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEcVZAqXYAAYORh.png
Lacazette looks like he's going to be rubbish as well. Just retire the shirt.
Antonio Valencia is the best left-back in the league.
You should probably be thankful to Kirk Broadfoot. If he never broke Valencia's leg he'd still be a skinny crossbot.
We're about to break our transfer record - again - by signing a winger called Jose Izquierdo, for "an initial £13.5m, potentially rising to £16m".
He apparently has 99 pace on Fifa. That's all I know about him other than that he's Columbian and plays for Club Brugge.
There was a Sky Sports Classic on the other day which featured Kirk Broadfoot diving over a Celtic defender to win the penalty that won the derby at Celtic Park. Truly remarkable footballer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
Don't think I've seen a concrete opinion on a single Brighton signing this summer that's gone further than expected key diagonal passes per 90 or whatever. They must be absolutely bollocks deep in spreadsheets.
Is he at least a left winger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
Jose Izquierdo is rapid on fifa. Bring him on with 20 minutes remaining, and just smash balls over the top for him. Brighton should play him the same way i do.
Wouldn't be at all surprised, would seem a Bloom thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
None of the articles/the club/Hughton wanted to tell me, but you can always rely on "Goals, Skills and Assists" videos on Youtube, and it'd seem he's a left winger who cuts in on his right foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adramelch
Izquierdo being Spanish for 'left'. Always seemed a right mouthful for such a common word. I prefer my lefts gauche.
I remember that. Charlie Nicholas had one of the great seethes after the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
In terms of his contributions to my life though, it's a distant second to the time he put himself out of commission for a month trying to poach an egg in the microwave. I still laugh now when I picture it.
Reports United are signing Serge Aurier with "only a fee to be agreed!"
Which, to me, generally means it's a bunch of bullshit when they "agree personal terms" before the actual fee. I'm sure there's been cases where this has come off but I honestly feel like it never actually happens when the personal terms are first in the papers.
Feel it's usually just club/agent media tactics to speed up a potential deal.
If United bring in both Rose and Aurier whilst managing to solve Aurier's attitude problem we might just be okay this season.
Just avoid relegation tbh.
When me and @Baz went to watch the Belgian Super cup last summer he was boss. Scored and was the best player on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Aurier still hasn't even been confirmed to be able to enter the country.
Does that mean it's off? Woodward out.
Dortmund have fined and suspended Ousmane Dembele for missing training today - Sky reckoned he was flying to Barcelona today instead.
If true can we just ban Barcelona from transfers forever? Mes Que Un Academy will see them right.
Dembele has been at Dortmund one year, of presumably a 5 year contract, and decides he's had enough already. Ballsy.
Don't they want £135m for him? Fucking lol if they get anywhere near that. He's played about a season's worth of football in his life and it's not like he's the next Cronaldo. I can only assume this is the Mbappe effect, just without the eye-catching season.
Dortmund would be idiots to turn that sort of money down, so they can only be after more.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40851164
Fosu-Mensah has joined Palace on loan.
Hope he gets a lot of games.
He could well be. He makes Aubameyang look like Chicarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Dembele had a pretty eye-catching season. He was probably the second highest rated teenager in europe after Mbappe last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Barca(mate)s opening bid for Dembele was £82m.
What is even going on any more?
Dembele is an unreal talent but yeah, crazy that he'll end up going for the second highest fee ever.
Coutinho or Dembele aren't going anywhere for less than £100m, possibly even £120m, because both Liverpool and Dortmund don't need to sell, have their players under long contracts and, importantly, know that Barca have over £200m to spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
I can now see Dembele moving but I don't think Coutinho will rock the boat too much this summer. Maybe next year after the World Cup.
At this point you've got to ask if the money isn't better spent paying 20M each for Brazils and Argentinas supposed top 10 players and hope one of them is the NEXT MESSI.
Twenty million wouldn't get you much from the South American leagues now either. Real Madrid have paid forty million quid for a kid who's played about eight minutes of first team football.
Barcelona must have tested that approach to death before ACTUAL MESSI came through.
Money should just be reinvested in youth facilities. Bring over a boatload of Africans every summer and house them until you figure out if they're any good or not.
And then loan them to us.
Wouldn't Barcelona be better served buying an actual (and entire) defence rather than another outlandishly expensive attacker?
I think Wengers right in his thinking that all players are going to start going to the end of their contract and using Bosnians. Who wants 10% of 120 million quid when you could net yourself 100% of 20 million.
Edit: I'm keeping that autocorrect.
Defence is no good for the brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
It's going to end up approaching the free agency model they have in the US. Either that or everyone has to have a release clause.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Oleguer doesn't shift too many instant noodles.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I'm doubtful as to the actual value of any of those things, and, even if they are important, that base is already well and truly covered by having the best player ever already.
What in the name of fuck is this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40699431
So Sergio Aguero is actually rubbish?
His xG is not as good as others, no.
Lukaku looks like a bargain.
So you expect me to score? No, Mr Bond etc.
Further unwelcome Americanisation of the game.
That will bring Bruh in here soon now, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
At least it will end up in more abuse directed at Magic though.
Why is no one bothering to buy Diego Costa?
It's odd, isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I mean, he's a rabid twat, but that's never stopped clubs in the past and he does score goals.
From that article:
What? Can we? :D "Expected goals" is just someone else's opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC
In fact, it's worse than that. The list of things it's based off doesn't account for so many things.
Imagine if someone went back and did Andy 'Andrew' Cole's expected goals.
When you look back now you wonder whether half of those weird post-2008 United transfers were early examples of this sort of bollocks at work. That said, they could equally have been late examples of not using any statistical approach at all.
It could have just been brown envelopes as well.
I read he only wants to go back to Atletico, who obviously can't register him til January. Perhaps there's an advantage for him in hanging around at Chelsea before being bought by them in January as compared to them buying him now and registering him January. Higher wage and at least the possibility of some game time, maybe :sorry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I've got a feeling that post is a bit of a mess structurally but I've had a general anaesthetic today so I'm probably not at my best.
On THE DEBATE Phil Neville said Liverpool should flog Coutinho for £100m+ and then buy Costa.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
He'd be perfect for them. Another grotty little cunt for them to channel their victim complex through.
Woah, listen to the general anaesthetic spouting off.
That year we could have had a forward line of Costa and Suarez.
:drool:
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Migraine
Is THE DEBATE just people spouting off random opinions like that? The Verdict died for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Costa wants to go back to Atletico as only they can match his true gypo aspirations.
Plus in true hard cunt manner, crazy cunts like him ever only seem to be controllable by even crazier fuckers like Simeone. It's like some sort of prison-like hard cunt respect hierarchy.
I've no idea, I saw this as a clip on the news in the morning, I haven't subjected myself to actually watching half an hour of it. That particular episode apparently featured him and Craig Bellamy. The night before it was Ian Wright and Alan Pardew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I'm still wearing my black armband for The Verdict.
Never in doubt.Quote:
In a statement on Friday, the club's owners Fenway Sports Group club said its "definitive stance" was that "no offers will be considered
'Back injury' persists though . . .
Also, the statement says "this summer" which is the rub. He goes next summer, but that is fine, they can sign Keita as a replacement and/or have a year to formulate a plan.
Should let him go now and get Renato Sanches in to replace Jordan Henderson and his crap gait.
How much is he going to cost though? Without even factoring in the doubling that happens once you bank the Coutinho money. He'll no doubt be on a long loan to Juve soon anyway.
This is true but if you lived in a world where you could get Siggurdson and Sanches revenue neutral, I'd say go for it.
"revenue neutral" :s
Alright bank boy, fuck off.
Sigurdsson for £50m is one of the most mental things going. He's a decent player in a wank team. He'd disappear in a side who don't escape scrutiny for large parts of the season.
Michu Mk2.
His experiment at Spurs went well.
"You've got to build a team around him"
*team narrowly escapes relegation*
Well Coutinho's handed in a transfer request according to Sky. LET THE GAMES COMMENCE (for three more weeks)
:drool:
Get Hendo on the blower to him.
:cry:
Reminding him that Jordan Henderson exists and is his captain is probably the most counterproductive thing they could do.
I saw one of those wank Nivea adverts the other day in which James Milner was crushed to death by a dinosaur. How long has that hilarious mess been around for?
Farewell, Phil. :(
Him and Suarez reunited could be fantastic, at least. Pity it's not in red shirts.
It's been around for a while now, and is somehow an improvement on its predecessor.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
I see we're making a move for João Cancelo. I've never heard of him, but Google Images is giving me distinct Paulo Ferreira flashbacks.
The BBC have the transfer request now.
It doesn't change anything regarding what the club should do. He does the extra year, and then they have a whole year to work out how best to squander the money on supposedly promising young players and temperamental foreigners.
That went well thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Like I don't come here every bleeding day of my life anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
:D
So will Barcelona make then Cheque out to Southampton directly or will Liverpool want to feel the money for a little bit?
They can make it out to Van Dijk's agent.
Who else do they have? Forster? Ward-Prowse? Is there a multi-buy offer on?
Transfer request on the eve of the season. 6 months into a 5.5 year contract. In a world cup year. You sort of have to wonder about the advice players get. What's he going to do? Refuse to play?
If there was a time to "force" a player to stay at your club surely it's a World Cup year. His choice would be to sulk, play crap and lose his spot in the Brazil team, or try and make the best of it (the poor guy), play well and get called up.
Woodburn to the rescue. :drool:
Do players these days really care about a world cup any more apart from it being a shop window? If he's already got paid then that removes that aspect.
If he had the choice to get paid five zillion quid more, move to Barcelona and miss out on the World Cup he'd probably take it, but if that choice wasn't given to him he'd be foolish to not make the most of his Liverpool season ahead of the World Cup.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Money. Just money.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I find it hard to believe half the England squad do.
They do, they're just not very good.
Spurs in for Davidson Sanchez and Pape Cheikh Diop.
The former looks decent, the latter- no idea.
Of course people give a fuck you tard. It doesn't impede on their ability to make money during the year, and it's so (rightly) fetishized that everyone watches and everyone cares, so it's the biggest big dick contest around. Plus it's so fucking cool and I think most of the players realize that, unless they play for Cameroon. Fuck Cameroon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Yeah.. no.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
It's not the 1990's any more. All about maximising what their agents tell them they can get.
Agents probably don't care too much, yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Barcelona are signing Paulinho from some Chinese club for £35m hahahah
Hopefully barcelona don't make it a double swoop and take Can too.
That flick. :drool:
I'd happily see the back of Can. Laboured in everything he does.
Sunday times are saying Mbappe to PSG is near enough done. £173m up front with clauses pushing it over £200m.
Meanwhile I can't wait until we sign Lanzini!
There is a good case for booting PSG out of the Champions' League for a few years if that goes through. They must know they are going to be sanctioned for it, expecting to just eat whatever fines and limitations are placed on them, so suspend them for the length of these initial contracts.
I'd laugh my head off if PSG got a three year ban from the Champion's League, killing Neymar's drive for the Ballon d'Or before it got started, but it won't happen. They'll get a 'heavy' fine, get their squad allocation trimmed again, and that'll be it.
If you were ever going to SEND A MESSAGE, hammering them is surely your best bet. Nobody is going to miss them, you would keep all of the traditional elite on side, and you could just threaten to take the World Cup off Qatar if they start kicking off.
They'd be the ideal team to hit if you wanted to set a precedent, I just can't see it happening.
Stoke are brining another champions league winner who didnt play in the final to their club. Jeséz on loan from PSG.
Liquid Nightclub just got a new client then.
I think PSG will get banned for many years. The blue bloods won't let them carry on like this, and UEFA need the blue bloods onside more than they need PSG/Qatar.
Stoke need to go back to being a team of thugs again. This new culture of buying lazy self styled 'stars' will see them join Hull and Sunderland on the road out of the Premier League.
Barcelona have bought Paulinho from China for £36.3m according to Sky, although they also say that the medical is taking place this Thursday.
That seems like a monumental waste of money.
Is that the same one who used to play for North London White? lol if so.
It is. How the dickens are China making a profit on a piece of transfer business? They're getting three times what they paid, and he's nearing thirty. It looked like peak Daniel Levy at the time when he just about got his money back on him after he'd been arse for two years.
It's almost like they've suddenly come into a load of money and are unsure what exactly to do with it.
Paulinho was bought as part of a massive waste of the Bale transfer fee, so this is rather fitting.
Barca taking on a Spurs reject. What a time to be alive..
It's looking like Joselu of Stoke is going to be Newcastle's next signing - £5m and was due to have a medical this afternoon.
We're still being linked with Lucas Perez and Kieran Gibbs, but I can't see either happening in all fairness.
£30m for William Carvalho seems a decent deal in the current climate, assuming he's still got that 'tache.
I'm a bit gutted he's leaving, really. He was never given a proper chance here, and once Berahino arrived that was pretty much it for him. I think most Stoke fans at this point would much, much rather Joselu be starting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
That's quite nice to hear as it feels like a totally uninspired signing.
I think he'll do very well with regular first team football. I don't think he'll be a 20+ goal striker, but he should be good for 10-15 if he plays most weeks. He could definitely do with being a little more aggressive in putting himself about, but he's skillful, good finisher, strong in the air and will sometimes pull out wide where he can deliver a great cross. May have been at Madrid at the same time as Benitez too but I'm not sure.
But that would actually make sense so why would they do something like that.
Not much of a revolution, seems an eminently sensible thing to do.
Would be a great move. I'd prefer as a fan to just focus on actual football once the season starts. And it strikes me as odd to have some players playing for two different PL teams in one season.
Well thats still going to happen regardless.
Why don't they cancel the season and replace it with the window?
Transfer season and the football window.
I flicked onto THE DEBATE earlier and Thierry Henry, Alan Smith and Geoff Shreeves were discussing this as though it was the end of times.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40848343
£45m odd accepted for Gylfi.
lol.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40937324
Barry has gone to West Brom.
They should just let them transfer any time and with no restrictions. One match loans to troll your direct rivals. :drool:
Of course he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Real Madrid, PSG, Stoke.
Living the dream.
I thought Jese was meant to be decent.
Bojan, Shaqiri, Afellay and Jese is one hell of collection of "potential great players, turned wasters".
Loves a night club. There was some story about how PSG wouldn't loan him to Malaga because he'd just be out clubbing every night.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I had really high hopes for Jese so it will be a shame if he turns out to be a complete waster.
I imagine signing for Stoke is a pretty good way to keep away from the clubbing scene.
Don't all the Stoke players live in Cheshire with the rest of the Northern-based footballers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
Their training ground appears to be in Stoke, so I'd personally live near there, though I imagine a lengthy commute is alright in a £100k car.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
The training ground is on the northern outskirts, about 30-40 minutes away from the likes of Alderley Edge, so that's where they all live. Can't blame them.
Ah. He's gonna love The Warehouse Project then.
Didn't Sandman run into Robinho in some club in Leeds when he was at Man City?
Matuidi has gone to Juve for 18 million.
I though chelsea would have attempted to take him. I like his style. High level left footed players, usually have a different type of flair. He reminders me of those ze roberto type of players. Good at everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Five Champions League winners in their squad for this season - them four and Darren Fletcher. QUALITY.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Siggurdson for £45 million. FORTY FIVE MILLION.
EVERTON.
These aren't top clubs taking the piss, fucking Everton signing a player that realistically is about £20m at most. Fucking ridonk.
His expected goals though.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Fuck off.
Everton have just signed a load of meh this summer. It's the sort of stuff that takes you from seventh to seventh before you lose your best player as well.
Smells of spurs signings after bale left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Adjusted for accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Their midfield is really good but they desperately need someone to replace Jagielka/Williams. They lack pace up front too.
£40m for Danny Drinkwater :|
Tbh I'd rather keep him because we'd no doubt get absolutely fleeced for any potential replacement so what's the point.
Can't get Bonucci? No problemo, Jonny Evans is better anyway. http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...er-jonny-evans
£40odd million is the new £7.5m
Who should they have signed, then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Arya Stark
Decent set piece takers are worth their weight in gold these days.
Jonathan Viera for half the money, who Swansea will now sign to replace Sigurdsson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amigo
Actually Google suggests Gylfi Sigurdsson weights 77 kilos, and the price per kilo for gold is 31.700 quid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
So he's worth ca 2.500.000 in gold, as it were.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Half the money for half the player.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
In my completely unbiased opinion, of course.
Lol seething.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amigo
I was seething earlier when I saw some retard on Twitter comparing it to Zidane's transfer in 2001.
I read we'd made an £8.5m bid for him earlier in the season. Was probably bollocks.
Zidane or Sigurdsson?Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Puskas.
City have had an £18million bid for Jonny Evans rejected.
Don't even know what to lol at there.
Presumably it's quota driven.
Jonny Evans was John Stones in 2009, so it makes sense to have him around until the new one fulfils his MASSIVE potential.
One of my Facebook friends - and someone generally quite knowledgeable about football - thinks Evans is one of the best centre backs in the league. It's hard to tell with West Brom centre backs, but he thought something similar about Aaron Hughes, so it might just be that he's Northern Irish.
You've got to wonder at what point this just starts becoming some sort of norm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Two years ago, or even one, Liverpool wouldn't have hesitated for one second selling Coutinho for even 80 million. But the money just doesn't have any value, because any like-for-like replacement will be 85 million. So what's the point?
Does he fulfill the quota of home grown? Does it not have to be your actual country?
The country you are home grown in counts, not the country in which you were born. I think Fabregas counts as home grown in England, which, with hindsight, is probably why we bought him.
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Hopefully it'll lead to an era of more youth being given a chance.
Logically it should, and Chelsea should have seen that coming. At the moment I think we'll finish outside the top 8.
Evans might have matured into a lovely centre back now but he was garbage at United. I'm sure Pep would be able to regress his defensive ability.
The issue isn't even the transfer fees - it's clubs locking themselves into long term contracts with mediocre players for huge wages - and they're not going to be able to pay them when the bubble bursts. They're all fucked.
An eighteen million pound bid for Jonny Evans being rejected while at the same time, on the continent, Blaise Matuidi is going for exactly that much is a nifty indicator of how much money is sloshing around the Premier League.
Blaise Matuidi is a fucking steal at that price, really.
Its a fucking bargain. He must have a year left on his contract for that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Edit: He signed a four year deal in 2014, so it appears he did have a year left.
The well-run club that is PSG have told Julian Draxler he can leave, nine months after signing him, and it has last minute Arsenal signing written all over it.
Is there such thing as a panic sale?
Liverpool will end up buying him to replace Coutinho.
Elsewhere, United signing long-term Arsenal target Thomas Lemar would be lol for about a day, but then Anthony Martial might as well be dead so I don't know.
Suarez is injured for 6 months now. Draxler to barca.
Neymar back to Barcelona.
Neymar Sr last seen in a gold tank.
I haven't seen Draxler at PSG, but he always seemed to play well when I watched him at Wolfsburg. Has he gone to shit?
4-5 weeks, says auntie.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Where does Draxler play? Is he a winger?
We should just sign Kuyt again.
Is Draxler the bloke that had one good season at Schalke and has been living off it ever since? He's a winger, if so.
He plays wide left although i think he can play through the middle. From what i remember, he is direct with his running and likes to beat plays. Usually drops a right step-over and goes past players to his left.
He's injured half the time so he'll end up at Arsenal. If he could maintain some level of fitness he'd be a brilliant Coutinho replacement though. He's terrific on the ball.
I really rate Draxler. Does he really have trouble with injuries?
59 games during the past 5 seasons isn't great. Albeit, last season I think he wasn't selected at PSG for more than injury reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen
Where did you get that figure? Wikipedia seems to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Things are different in Asia.
Presumably he's just (badly) added up the last five sections on the career history given on Wikipedia. Do that and you get 69, but it only covers the last three seasons because each time he moved he played a few games at the beginning of the season beforehand.
Still not great over three seasons, but nowhere near as bad as averaging fifteen a season would be.
Wikipedia appearances always strike me as a little weird. Usually undercooked, mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adramelch
all competition stats
Phil
36 games
2531 minutes played
14 goals
9 assists
181 minutes per goal
281 minutes per assist
Draxler
39 games
2721 minutes played
10 goals
5 assists
272 minutes per goal
544 minutes per assist
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40979106
£114m or so bid rejected for Phil.
For those type of prices, you should be getting a goal or assist a game at a minimum.
£114m. What.
Tottenham spending up to forty million quid on that Ajax centre-back (the one United targeted as being useless on the ball in the UEFA Cup final) seems odd when they probably have the best partnership in the league. I know they need DEPTH, but surely not at those prices.
Ajax could buy PSV for that.
Gabriel of Arsenal has signed for Valencia this afternoon. They played a back five with one centre back, two left backs, a right back and a midfielder last week, so not sure how smart it is to get rid of a centre back. New one incoming? They've been rumoured to be wanting rid of Chambers, Gibbs, Jenkinson and Debuchy as well.
I know nothing of this lad Spurs have signed.
Eddie Howe has just been in Sky Sports talking about Demarai Gray. He said 'I made it clear when he was with Birmingham that I liked Demarai, but he's very much a Leicester player now and we don't talk about other club's players.'
Eddie, mate, I've spotted a problem there.
Back three initQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
He was one of Ajax first choice centre backs. From what I've seen (2 Europa league matches) he is fast as fuck, but I couldn't tell you much more about him. A handy replacement for the pace they lost when Walker left and much needed cover at CB I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
Sanchez looked like a beast when I watched him last season. Probably still a bit raw and unrefined, but the potential is there. No idea why Spurs' centre backs aren't being targeted by the likes of Barcelona or City. They're being paid peanuts currently.
£42m for an Eredivisie player of that age is lol, whichever way you choose to cut it. That's not to say it won't be a good signing but it's definitely part of football having GONE MAD.
£42m this summer is like buying a squad player for £15m a couple of years ago.
Wood to Burnley for £15m.
So basically a free transfer.
Aye. It's the 2017 version of 2008's £2.5m with addons.
Can't believe we're selling a 30+ goal a season player when we are already struggling for goals and have nobody else.
Doesn't make much sense selling Walker to City for roughly the same amount as you're paying for an Eredivisie player for the same position.
He's a centre back isn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pen
Ah, I thought I read he's a right back. Still, 42 million for an Eredivisie defender seems excessive even in the current market where you start bidding at 20 for Johnny Evans.
Sanchez is god tier. Definitely a good signing, since playing Dier in the back three could only lead to the eventual downfall of the club.
Wood has ruled himself out of playing tonight in our potentially toughest fixture this season, so he's fit for his medical at Burnley tomorrow.
Cunt?
Smart. Imagine doing an achilles and the whole thing being cancelled?Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
I doubt Leeds would match his potential wages if it happened.
Leeds wouldn't risk the legal action if he pulled something.
If he's still under contract to Leeds, and got injured playing for them, why would they be liable to any legal issue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Won't Leeds have ruled him out to protect the incoming fifteen million?
I would have thought so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
That's Elland Road paid for then. :(
I thought your mob were excited about the new owners @Magic?
Want them out now.
I'm not sure what's more lol about the Coutinho transfer. Liverpool not accepting it, or Barcelona trying 2003 level FM chicanery with an insane amount of the fee dependent on add-ons. £40m if Barcelona win anything in the near future? Erm, no thanks. Not to mention the "Ballon D'or" clause.
It'll be £150m after they bin it against Pepe Mel's Barmy Army tonight (even though Snr Mel is no longer). Cash.
It's always going to be hard when the other teams know you've got a £200m shaped wedge in your pocket.
In what universe does this kid look 12?
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/borus...-four-for-u17s
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I read about that. The defence seemed to be the father saying "trust me, he's 12" and everyone saying "ok sure". So dumb
A story about Leo Messi from The Sun... c'mon Yevrah, you're better than that :D
https://s3.postimg.org/skpwlogoz/Untitled.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Magic
A 'better league'.
Magic got touchy when I left Leeds off a poll once. How many years have they been out the prem?
Because they never get anything right...?Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
It's more then one thing we're told they got wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I'd love that. I reckon the only reason he'd leave Barcelona is to work with 'Pep' again, and if that happened Barcelona would be done.
Carl Jenkinson and Cohen Brammall have both gone to Arry Redknapps Blue and White Army on loan.
Bit gutted this Izquierdo chap's international clearance isn't going to come through in time for him to play tomorrow night. Anyone know anything about him?
Hopefully both he and Raphael Dwamena (????) are pace merchants.
Yeah that black lad from Bruges is frickin' awesome. May have been cos he was playing against other Belgian league Level players, but boy is he rapid. He's like if Lallana used speedhacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Yeah, was head and shoulders above the rest of the players on the pitch when we saw him last summer.
Watched some clips of Dwamena on Youtube and he looks quick and strong, really stocky.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
@Jimmy Floyd You seen him for Ghana, Jim?
I doubt his mum has seen him for Ghana.
He's scored 2 goals for them, says wiki.
You signed a guy from the Swiss Second Division? Lolz
They got promoted, I'll have you know.
Barcelona are trying to take legal action against neymar for £7.8m
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41014149
Barcelona sound salty. Neymar caught them slipping for £198m
You'd imagine a huge club like Barcelona, one who we are all constantly reminded of LA MESIA etc. etc., wouldn't be bothered to gain 200m.
I'll tell you what - it's incredible just how crap agents suddenly become when a player actual needs to find a new club (willing to match or increase his wages).
Diego Costa... Mamadou Sakho... Ross Barkley.. Markovic..... all summer, and still haven't managed to find a new club.
Tuchel to Chelsea to replace Conte apparently. Isn't half a downgrade.
If they sack Conte now (as opposed to in three months' time when we're 14th) they should all go to the gulags.
Hasn't he just signed a new contract?
In other rumour news, Barcelona have either admitted defeat in their bid to woo Liverpool's owners into selling Coutinho, or are preparing another, even dafter offer. Daft in both magnitude '£138m' and structure (£37m of never-never add-ons, just call it £100m).
They got their Neymar money up front, so just send the truck over with the cash in it and everyone can move on.
One gets the impression that, perhaps having been on the other end of the same experience themselves, Liverpool are simply going to reject anything on general principle (whereas in reality it would make more sense for Leipzig, Southampton and Liverpool if they just bit the bullet and put everyone on the merry-go-round).
A payrise but not an extension for Conte.
Liverpool should see how far they can push it. £150 million up front plus a 'tots soms scouse' card display at every home game, and renaming the academy to 'Masia, la'.
Coutinho isnt even worth half of that. World has gone bonkers. PSG paying that much for neymar is somewhat justified becuase he deliveres a goal and an assist per game. T
Doesn't Coutinho provide about half that in a much tougher league?
Price seems fair.
Realistically one of Liverpool or Dortmund are going to royally fleece Barcelona, I guess it's just a case of who blinks first.
Not even close. Stat of the moment is that Mkhitaryan is three off Coutinho's best ever assist return after two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Sincere mentioned goals and assists - Coutinho got 20 of them last season - granted, Mkhitaryan has 4 assists already this season, but equally he doesn't score half as many as Coutinho (13-4 last season).Quote:
Originally Posted by John
All assists measure is other people's finishing.
Yeah he said Neymar is getting a goal and an assist a game. Coutinho isn't close to that. Add his goals and assists together and he might get somewhere near one in two.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Wait until 2nd assists start becoming a thing. I blame NBCSN....
Touching the ball within 30 seconds of a goal = assist.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Pre-assists. You best believe I claim them at five-a-side and saturday 11s :D
That sort of stat comes up when numbers obsessives want to praise a player we know to be great but who doesn't have great stats.
The first time I heard about the 'pre assist assist' and 'assisting the assister' was with Iniesta at the height of Pepmania.
Wasn't Xavi the king of them?
Like 3 assist per season for one of the best passers of his time.
You all need to get with the times. Expected passes is the preferred metric now.
The way you can tell this is a completely pointless metric is the little Cartesian graph they have halfway down the page where everybody is clumped at the origin, except for Adam and Fabregas who are very slightly off-center. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
Berbatov has signed for the Kerala Blasters, a club named after the spicy mince and peppers pizza from my local Indian.
We've just signed some John Carew looking motherfucker from Holland. :drool:
Wes Brown is there with him. Rene Meulensteen (Man United, Fulham) is the coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Berbatov seemed the biggest surprise of the three of them, but I've just read he's been without a club for a year.
http://www.manutd.com/sitecore/shell...,292,7988,4788
What a hero. Absolutely delighted. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41040655
Hopefully that does not affect his legacy and stats.
Its damm sure affected my pockets. I had him joining dortmund, bayern or heading back to malmo. Never exspected this at all.
Hope it's a huge wage and he does his cruciate first game. CUNT.
Great news and a brilliant sub to have.
Poor Lukaku.
Or, United can now effectively play with a 7-man defence, Carrick just in front of that to chuck balls forward to front 2 Zlatan & Lukaku.
Sorted.
Zlatan and Lukaku with Fellaini behind them :drool:
More like poor Rashford and Martial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
They've been playing on the wing for a while now, this doesn't affect them at all.
Maybe Lukaku can play on the wing if he's nice.
But the only sensible thing to do would be to stick them both up front together and play 4-4-2 with Poggers out to the left.
We've got a lot of games to play this season, especially if we qualify for the knockout stages of the Champions League - Zlatan and Lukaku will have plenty of game time even if we stick with one up front.
Zlatan will play all games he's fit in.
It's Zlatan.
(don't try to reason with me)
How would you have more games than last season?Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
When did I say we would have?
Lukaku will obviously be first choice.
That tweet from Zlatan was pure cringe :D
Fair play to him (again) for not just noncing off to America.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH_0D1qW0AANihn.jpg:largeQuote:
Originally Posted by Pen
Is the other one Rooney?
SKY SOURCES say that Dembele to Barcelona is done for a deal worth up to £110m
The sell-on fee to Rennes will be more than double their actual record transfer. :cool:
I guess that's good news for us. Countinho must feel a bit used (presuming Barca give up on him (please do)).
'Reports' suggest he's going to go public with his discontent, which should be amusing.
Hasselbaink regen. :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Good news about Ibrahimovic. Now just sign Rooney back and we'll be unstoppable.
So almost all of the money on Paulinho and the next big French thing?
Lol.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41043195
Plus getting fisted in court again.
And Messi's going to walk out for nothing (and £200m in his dad's back pocket) next year.
Well they got all the Neymar money up front and the Paulinho/Dembele deals get spilt over 4 and 5 years.
They're saved!
I think the fact that despite losing Neymar they're still in the top 8 sides in the world might be the bigger savior.
Outstanding. You wonder what he hopes to achieve.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
If he isn't on the phone to Charles Itandje then he needs better advice.
Well, exactly.
That or give one interview to the Sun and they'd run him out of town in exchange for a tenner and a Yorkie bar.
We should've signed Berbatov. Close the loop.
He could call a conference with Kenny Dalglish to 'explain himself' like when Stone Cold filled Jim Ross in after WrestleMania X-Seven.
Yes, with angry hordes of triggered Scousers banging on the doors and windows of the venue.
Wait a minute! That's... That's Sir Alex Ferguson! What in the world?!
Oliver Burke has signed for West Brom. Good signing that for them, they've been looking for a replacement to Brunt for 3-5 years.
They announced it as 'Red Bull gives you wingers' which gave me a laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
I liked the look of him at Forest and wingers seem to be a bit of a weak area for WBA, so yeah good signing all round.
Yeah, team needs some pace as well. Matty Phillips is a good technical player but he's not quick off the mark and the closest thing they have to a burst of pace from midfield is poor old James Morrison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
Done deal for Dembele then. Sky reckon it's £97m upfront with £38m of addons.
I wouldn't fancy having to rely on James McClean all season, too. Things are looking good for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Dortmund are laughing. £135m potentially for a guy they can replace with someone already at the club. I'd argue Pulisic is actually the better prospect too. It's a shame this means we probably wont ever get the latter.
If you're right and he's as good this year as Dembele was last you wouldn't be getting him anyway. And Dortmund won't be keeping him either.
I was reading the posts about Barcelona going for Dembele instead of Coutinho and assumed it was the Spurs one :lol: FFS,
And yeah, we'll give Oliver Burke about 5 games before reverting to McClean and Phillips by the end of the season because they track back a bit. Maybe put Brunty back there when we have 4 fully fit centre backs for the back 4.
The Spurs one would be a better signing than that pleb Paulinho, and even with the Levy levy he'd probably cost them less too.
Pulis hates McClean so he definitely wouldn't be relying on him. I'm still holding out hope he gets a move to the championship before the window closes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
What do you / WBA fans make of Pulis nowadays?Quote:
Originally Posted by igor_balis
I thought it was the Celtic Dembele when I first heard about it as my Celtic-supporting friend in work has been banging on about him for the past six months and apparently every big club ever has wanted him at some point since about May.
Dwamena's failed his medical at Brighton.
Heart condition. He's not had a good day. Imagine finding out that your new job on three hundred times the wages has fallen through and that you're a timebomb at the same time.
Man that's sad for him.
We've let Ince go out on loan again. He was looking as bright a prospect as Dunk under Oscar and Hyypia.
The spurs Dembele is a don. I don't think Levy/Pochettino would be letting him go easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Mbappe to PSG...on loan.
Monaco would be pretty dumb to agree to that. Next season Madrid (and maybe Barcelona) will be even more interested, PSG will still have the money, and he could help them to win the league in the meantime.
This is one of those loans where the transfer is mandatory at the end isn't it?
I've read it could even go as high as €180m.
It says PSG have the option of buying him, aye.
Mandatory would mean they HAVE to buy him at the end (which is what Gray Fox was saying), not that they have the option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
It has to be mandatory, otherwise they'd obviously take the loan just to stop Monaco challenging for the title.
I dunno really. I like the IDEA of Pulis, and I appreciate how consistent our results are and I'm not one of these deluded people who thinks we should be a swashbuckling attacking side getting top-half by default. But fuck me, it can be really tedious and annoying to watch. However I will say that today confirmed what I suspected - playing defensive, backs to the wall stuff is far more palatable when you're actually at the game, caught up in the atmosphere of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
Liking the idea of shit, one dimensional Sunday league football by a shit BIG SAM. :sick:
Pulis was doing some decent things at Palace until he fell out with the chairman. Outside of that he's stuck to shit football. God knows why Chadli went there.
I like Pulis teams. They add to the tapestry of life. If everyone was a 'bright, young manager' with an identikit team liking to play 'passing football' life would be fairly dull.
It's where Neil Warnock fits in as well. Total bellend, but also a bit of a legend when you dig down. Launching Vincent Tan back into mainstream life one game at a time.
€160m for Coutinho?
lol
£55.5m for Thomas Lemar apparently?
Sky are running with that now, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
It's looking like the next day or two is going to be mega busy with transfer window stuff - I thought the window closed next Monday for some reason, but it's actually Thursday.
£21m bid from Leicester rejected for Jonny Evans as well.
Where does Lemar fit in if he's signed?
If LFC pinch Lemar from under Arsenal's nose after dicking them 4-0, I am going to LOL hard.
If you assume Coutinho as playing in from the left, then Lemar is a direct replacement in terms of position. He is however more a left footed left winger, so you're more likely to see him attacking his full back than cutting inside and firing a shot/pass off.
If you see Coutinho as playing from the centre it's more confusing. Not forgetting we have Lallana to come back. There's still Emre Can, Henderson, Milner, Wijnaldum, Woodburn and Grujic. Other than Lallana and maybe Woodburn you'd not really want to play any of the others at CAM. So Coutinho would still need a replacement.
Big twitter rumour of the day for you is that Naby Keita landed in Manchester this morning. Though twitter is about as reliable as Liverpools defending.
If Lemar is a fast/powerful wide man then I like the sound of him. I have no idea if he is. Some combination of him, "The Ox", that Renato chap Kiko loves and a centre-half for one Coutinho would do.
Brighton should sign Origi on loan, if he's available.
Dortmund have replaced Ousmane Dembele with Andriy Yarmolenko from Dynamo Kiev.
Four year deal, €25m transfer fee.
I really don't want Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Apparently the Keita deal has been agreed but he's not moving till next summer.
How does Keita have a medical now for a move in a year? What if he does all of the ligaments in his body in the interim?
http://www.themag.co.uk/2017/08/excl...castle-united/
This would be a pretty cool move. He's scored goals everywhere he's played.
https://twitter.com/101greatgoals/st...70233179443202
Looks like a great buy :harold:
Oxlade-Chamberlain is rubbish.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41075272
There you go. If my reading is correct, we've agreed to pay the buy-out clause in advance (with a premium). It's effectively a buy and loan back at next year's release fee plus some money to get in ahead of other clubs. Which is fine.
He has been ruined by Wenger. Like so many other players, he's gotten chucked around different positions and roles to the point where he doesn't have a clear identity as a player anymore, and just sort of is mediocre at everything.
He's a crap wing-back, but I don't think Liverpool would be buying him to play there.
Lol it's so funny that Andy Carroll is STILL Cess's most expensive signing.
He isn't. Salah is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
EDIT: I'm guessing "Cess" is Liverpool or West Ham???
Ours is still Michael Owen in 2005 :face:
From BBC:Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Liverpool have agreed a club record deal to sign RB Leipzig midfielder Naby Keita, with the player officially joining in July 2018.
The Reds have agreed to pay the £48m release clause that will allow him to move next summer, plus an undisclosed premium.
The 22-year-old had been one of Jurgen Klopp's primary targets this summer, but Leipzig had refused to sell.
The deal will surpass the £35m paid to Newcastle for Andy Carroll in 2011.
Shite journalism!
Ours was Rio Duck Face in 2000 for £18m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samadini
Sky have confirmed that Chelsea and Arsenal have agreed a fee for Oxlade Chamberlain, approximately £35m.
Over to Jimmy for more.
I wonder when we'll actually break that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Samadini
£35m. :D
:roflol:
Probably a January panic buy when we're in the shit. Will be some absolute wank as well if Oxlade-Chamberlain is going for £35m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
How many more times do we need to say 'Football's broken' this window? For fuck's sake, really.
The lad has one year left on his contract, too. Liverpool flogged a similarly aged Michael Owen for £8m in the same circumstances, albeit in 2004.
Until it's confirmed by either Liverpool or RBL, I'll stick with Salah for now. Either way, it's not Carroll, you massive pleb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Why are you calling me a pleb you fucking Gary Glitter wannabe.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Either way, I hadn't heard of Keita until June and have never seen him play. However, I've just watched a three minute highlights package and he's clearly the best midfielder in Europe. Next year but one it's Our Year™.
Victor Moses and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as your first choice right wing back. Offft.
He'd do a job in the Willian role, that's about it. Apparently they're after Drinkwater and Llorente too. Christ.
Why not just buy him next year instead of adding this 'undisclosed premium'?
Cos PSG would nick him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Presumably because other clubs would wade in next year and complicate it. To be fair, I do think it's sensible. For the sake of a few million quid (presumably), they've managed to secure their top target and can worry about what thoroughly underwhelming defensive options they can squander tens of millions on instead.
Stop emailing me for pics, and I'll stop calling you a pleb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
Those NK Kiddies are so untouched thoeQuote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Why the fuck do teams in the top 6 want Chamberlain?
In that case why has he gone along with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baz
I think Ox is pretty good. But the clips they picked out on Match of the Day 2 last night were pretty shocking.
The fee for Chambermaid :D
I think it's smart business for Keita, he looks like a handy player and for a few million more or so, to secure him now is good.
What's his % of successfully completed passes per 5 minutes of active game time divided by assists at home per half hour of Autumnul game time? Can't be including winter pitches.
Oxlade-Chamberlain will be good at Chelsea, and the move weakens Arsenal's already laughably shit squad. I'm looking forward to the hilarious panic buys over the next few days.
It's the first transfer ever where somehow everybody loses.
Some German rag has it around €20m more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
But then, next summer £70m will be this year's Jonny Evans fee.
What was the top bid for this season?
20 is a high premium but you get your number 1 target ahead of the bigger clubs.
I've missed this kind of banter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
The lad is better of getting out now. Every chance he could still be a proper player with the right manager.
What's he doing to play at Chelsea? 10 games a season?
That said, I presume the reimbursement is ample enough.
Saw you on arsenal TV last night. Spot on as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by Davgooner
Siem De Jong's off to Ajax. Godspeed, lad. Also, some "Shut up and get on with his job." quote that's been attributed to Rafa with regards to his position. I think he's off as soon as a job comes up.
Please tell me he's Troopz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
West Ham want him. Given they're able to bid £40m on a single player and they already signed two players he was after this Summer, I could see it happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Rafa is a top, top manager, but he's really wasting his time up there. It'll be a real shame if he does leave, because it'll be entirely Ashley's own fault.
I go to work and it all happens.
We've had two bids for Lemar (£55m, £64m) rejected. I had no idea we were even interested until yesterday.
Looks also like random twitter rumour came off for once. Good to see us get Keita. Our top bid for him was about £70m, so we got him a little cheaper in the long run, but it's a shame we have to wait a season for him.
And presumably if he does shit up there, it'll be all Ashley's fault and nothing to do with Benitez?Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
He looks like me trying that.
City have offered Sterling + Cash for Sanchez.
Isn't he one of their few precious homegrown players?
That's what Johnny Evans is for.
When's the actual deadline?
That's mad. Sanchez has one contract in him, Sterling has a decade.
Sanchez can kick a football though. I've got the :drool: out already for the Wellbeck air shot into Sterling mishit bouncing in off Wes Morgans fat arse.
I'm fine with it tbh, though I'd rather he went somewhere else. If we could then get Ozil out and bring in Isco, I'd be happy.
Yeah, everyone would be happy with Isco.
I've just realised that we've been a more successful team than Man City since he signed for them. You forget how massively they've underachieved the last 3 years.
To the players, i think its only league titles and europe that count.
Naby Keita confirmed (for next season) by Liverpool.
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/firs...ign-naby-keita
Kevin Wimmer joins stoke from tottenham for £18m
https://twitter.com/stokecity/status/902456195344203776
No, but there's clearly an issue with investment in the playing squad and Rafa has a track record that shows he's more likely to do well than not if you back him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScousePig
When was the last time a player + cash deal actually happened? Zlatan for Eto'o?
Surefire bullshit indicator I think.
Why would you get rid of Sterling?
Values fallen since Brexit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Very good.
'investment in the playing squad' is a brilliant bullshit corporate phrase.
'We have to strengthen the first team playing squad at this football club'
It would be reasonably amusing if Sterling was moved on given the fit he through to force the move to begin with.
Watford have pulled out of a deal to sign kieran gibbs. Arsenal really are weird at the moment. When you have those fringe players you dont want any more. You cant really play tough love with the club who wants to buy them.
He will probably be on the way to wba, but still.
:nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
He turned them down. Won't give him the 65k he's getting at Arsenal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Benedikt Howedes could be on the way to juventus on loan, with an option to buy
http://www.espnfc.com/story/3190761/...nedikt-howedes
Alberto Aqualini has joined las palms
https://twitter.com/LasPalmasSphera/...38776197513216
Roma sign Patrik Schick
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...ik-Schick.html
Arda turan is linked with monaco
http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/tr...r-replacement/
Jonny Evans is linked with arsenal
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...head-transfer/
The Ox to liverpool seems to stil be a possibility. :uhoh:
Haven't Chelsea agreed a fee?
Why the fuck would Sterling agree to move to Arsenal?
Well if he's being used as a makeweight in a deal he can presumably see he's not wanted that much.
Wenger won't be there forever and they'd be a proper team with the right manager.
So put in a transfer request and go to Chelsea or some shit.
Surely Chelsea'd rather have him than Ox? Or am I just talking dumb shit now?
I've just noticed Ox is older than Sterling. That's so mental to me for some reason.
Would Chelsea want him? He's a bit too much piss and wind for my liking.
I would take Raheem Sterling and money for 'Alexis'. The next manager could build the team around him.
We need any English player and also need a midfielder, so we'll take him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I can't see it happening either, but this update from Sky a few minutes ago has made me laugh.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sky
Fucking hell, they're mad.
:happycry:
That would make more sense though. Sanchez has little to no actual value and Sterling is young, half decent and presumably contracted to City forever.
Yep, Sterling is more valuable than Sanchez. The deal actually makes sense now.
Yeah that's completely batshit if it's true.
EDIT: Really? @SvN :cab:
Arsenal are the best at transfers! :clap::charm:
Sanchez is 28 (nearly 29) with one year left on his contract, and wants to leave. Sterling is 22 and has 3 years left, and moved for £50million 2 years ago BEFORE the market went totally mental. It's a no brainer.
Sanchez is the most talented player in the league and Sterling is mentally retarded. The age difference makes up for part, but not all, of it.
And in 12 months he'll be worth nothing.
He dies next year??
I would swap them, but if they end up adding twenty-odd million then it might just tip into lol territory.
Sanchez Aguero straight swap pls.
At a time when money means nothing the better player is more valuable.
City aren't going to let him go, but it would be quite lol if Sterling ended up at CRISIS Arsenal after a few years of failure in Manchester.
I'm sure Harold hated him so we should let him back to see if that opinion still holds when he's their main man.
No need, he'll probably tell himself all about it over on TR.
Will Sterling actually want to go to Arsenal? I mean who in their right mind would at the minute?
The seethe of the Arsenal fans if they have to watch Sanchez go and see the club pay to replace him with sterling would be quite something. Just keep him for the season and use the male weight next summer to fund a replacement or just chuck it into his wages.
What is Sanchez going to do for Arsenal this season? Keep them up? They may as well take some money.
With Sanchez if they sort themselves out they have a shot at top 4. Without Sanchez they're basically throwing in the towel now for the season.
There's always the hope that he changes his mind and re signs or as a free agent decides to go to Barcelona, psg, real or Bayern and you don't have to watch him tear the league up for a rival.
I just hope we keep hold of Ozil and Walcott.
Ozil would be fine for another club, Walcott probably not so much.
Hard to shift Ozil now he's found his perfect club.
Change of manager should solve everything then.
He allowed McClaren to spend £81.6m on players.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
BBC have Arsenal rejecting £50m for Sanchez from City.
Ozil should go to Atletico. Simeone would make a man out of him.
Grant Hanley to Norwich for £5m. Get somebody in, man. Two defenders died on the opening day. DIED.
Yeah but before trying he'd spit on him in disgust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
I'd say it was odds-on that Simeone would end up nutting him when he didn't bother running back.
We'll have him. We'll have anyone.
Chamberlain has rejected Chelsea as he thinks they'll play him as a Wing Back, apparently.
He's not good enough to play in the middle.
He's better than Drinkwater, who they're going to buy.
Looks like Coutinho's going. The fee must be mahoosive.
Modelling all this craziness in FM is going to be a challenge for Miles and his sexy t-shirts.
Barcelonas last bid was £114m or so. Though you'd imagine the fee will be similar to, if not more than the Dembele fee.
I wasn't too convinced he was going, but the sudden appearance of £65m to bid for Lemar has me assuming he's gone. I'm wondering if it's dependant on us signing someone before he goes.
Monaco have now signed Balde Keita and Jovetic so they might sanction the sale of Lemar. It could well be a very hectic last 2 days of the window.
If thats true, oxlade needs to be applauded. He wants to play in a specific postition whereever that is and is rejectiing teams based on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waffdon
He wants to play for Klopp.
Hopefully they make an insulting offer for him to generate some extra seethe, although I'm not quite sure what insulting is these days. £20m and 50p?
Danny waterdrink has handed in a transfer request.
How many times in his career has Chamberlain actually played in the middle? This feels like Walcott wanting to play up front, and everyone bigging him up as a striker without him ever actually playing there.
He played there for Southampton in the dim and distant past. He could possibly function quite well in one of Liverpool's 'number 8' roles.
Rumours that Gayle fell out with Rafa and is off. The fees being touted are mad, so I hope something goes through.
West Brom have signed Kieran Gibbs permanently and, he of copy and paste, Grzegorz Krychowiak from PSG on loan.
If they keep hold of Evans they'll have had an excellent summer. Just need to find a decent striker now.
£20m. That might as well be two Cabayes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
The Ox is a little unfortunate in that the recent hipster change to 532/433/4231 has kinda ruined him. He doesn't want to play wing-back, but he's not offensively good enough to play as a wide forward - he needs to find someone playing 442... give 'Arry a call, perhaps....
I thought that Krychowiak was meant to be the tits? What's he doing going to West Brom?
he probably needs to take a step down, in order to make a step back up. I understand his pain. Seeing the likes of ozil and walcott ahead of him in the wide forward spot probably pisses him off if he wants to play there. Ozil isnt suited to play wide right in a front three and walcott isnt doing anything special for several years now. Both should have been sold already.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
I dont see him starting in his preferred position in any of the teams who rival arsenal. Maybe going back to southampton or a team like everton or leicester would be beneficial for his career. Move overseas to monaco could also be an exciting move if possible.
I think we were rumoured to have bid £15m? We need to keep that for big Vern ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
It must be so depressing to be Dwight Gayle, spending your career getting teams promoted only for them to dump you back to the Championship when you do so.
If you have a shit attitude it's all you're good for.
Chamberlain is never good enough to be playing in the middle at a top six club.
I dont think ive ever seen him play there but one of his biggest strengths is running with the ball. If he plays thorough the middle, that strength will be restricted. Now, unless he is secretly messi that is waiting to be unleashed to the world through the middle. Playing in the AMC does not sounds like the best option for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
He is a right winger, who is as strong as an ox. I like his style, but he does not get goals or assists to match his ability.
He's just not a Central Midfielder at all in my opinion.
He's fast, explosive, can dribble, can cross,
He can't shoot, he can't tackle (or I've never really seen him try), he's not got the most exact passes or the smoothest touch.
He's a winger. A good, old-school winger. He'd be great for Manchester United about 15 years ago.
Frankly, he's a tremendous right wing back which is why I was terrified of him going to Chelsea. Imagine if Victor Moses was actually good.
Meanwhile a good summary of the last few days
Oxlade's had a bit of a mare here as phonics says. Wingers have gone out of the game and he's not even slightly got the presence to be a central midfielder, other than as a total luxury alongside two blockers in a lesser side.
Right wing back is the vogue position and he's good at it.
There are still wingers in the Championship. :henn0rz:
Krychowiak was superb at Sevilla. That could be a very decent signing.
I'm fairly sure the Andy position on Chamberlain (which I take as authoritative) was that he was a central midfielder. Good engine, decent technical ability, a good all-rounder (Milner II!). That he's spent the last 5 years or whatever it is having that beaten out of him so he can play as a winger, which he isn't, and now a wingback, which he's even worse at has maybe wrecked that, but I'd be willing to take that chance for the right price (which is about half what Arsenal want for him now, or nothing next summer).
He's an excellent wingback. I have no idea where the idea that he's not good at it has come from. It's the first thing he's looked like excelling at in about 3 years.
Who the fuck is Andy. He's too busy going around enjoying himself and being successful to bother with us, so fuck him and his 'authoritative' opinion.
Excellent? Is he though? I read earlier that he has only ever played 8 games as a wing-back... 3 of them this season - seems a tad too soon to judge, no?....Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
oh phonics, m8
198 games for arsenal
10.461 minutes completed
20 goals
32 assists
52.8 minutes completed per game
9.9 games per goal
6.1 games per assist
The Chelsea move made a bit of sense for various reasons, but if Liverpool are promising him games in his preferred position[s] then it is a crap signing for them.
Looks like we're going for Drinkwater instead.
Chelsea signing Drinkwater makes more sense if Conte is so pissed off that he's planning to leave and he wants to salt as much of the earth as he can on the way out the door.
Leicester don't need to sell apparently.
*enters hardware store*
I'd like four candles, please. How much?
'Not for sale at any price.'
TBF the exact same midfield partnership won the league 2 years ago.
Well, Keiran Rowe from Brighton (but a Chelsea fan) has certainly upped the Oxlade-ante on the bbc transfer feed thing:
?!?!?!?!Quote:
I'd love The Ox at Chelsea. Would fit in well as a wing back, centre midfield or maybe even a back up centre back. I think his style suits Conte's football down to a T.
Drinkwater seems an odd one, but then he did form a good partnership with Kante at Leicester.
If you chose to sign Danny Drinkwater you would merely be underwhelmed. If you had to sign him because you let Nemanja Matic go to your rivals you would be seething.
Wasn't this Bakayoko meant to be the Matic "replacement" anyway?
Seems a little odd, all of it.
Apparently Bob Putin signed that one off himself behind the club's back, much like he did with Cech a couple of years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
His outlook on these things is a bit strange. It's almost like he's more organised criminal than businessman.
The image SSN are using for sanchez in the transfer center
http://i.imgur.com/Hc3iUaL.png
The best DEADLINE DAY story I've seen all day is United offering Chris Smalling and thirty million for 'Alexis'. They should do it just for the MELTDOWN.
Left to right that looks like the progression of someone given a sedative for a psychotic episode.
From what I understand Bakayoko's meant to be more of a box to box playing than a holding midfielder like Matic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazuuurk
Chelsea really were seriously daft to let Matic go, especially to United.
Our entire transfer policy this summer has been seriously daft, but that's what you get when it's run by an unholy coalition of Michael Emenalo and the KGB.
Krychowiak to West Brom and now Renato Sanches to Swansea?
:cab:
That Swansea one is mental. If he is out on loan for his Bayern/Big Club future, donning it at somewhere like Everton would be alright, but even being the best player at Swansea by a mile hardly does anything to help that.
£40m agreed for Oxlade-Chamberlain to Liverpool.
Mental.
Makes Coutinho look a snip at £150m or whatever it is.
Does he not know I've backed Swansea to come last this season! He better not mess that up.
Liverpool getting themselves well set for a post-Brexit reintroduction of the foreigners rules though. Could at least field a team within the old rules, what was it, 3 fgns and 2 assms?
Paul Clement was Ancelottis assistant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
People aren't going to take more notice of a good season for Swansea just because their manager has Ancelotti's phone number.
I see why it happened. The point is that he is selling himself short.
EDIT: As above.
Well Ancelotti might take notice of his former assistant's opinion, which could be quite useful seeing as he's manager of Bayern.
I suppose, short of sending him to Juve as part of their unholy alliance, no one half decent is going to be interested in developing him for a year without the option to buy him, so if they do want to keep him (maybe) he has to drop to a club that'll just be happy to have him in the short term. And, I guess, where he'll be reasonably guaranteed games.
Most exciting youth in Europe to loaned to Swansea in less than a year. Take heed Kylian.
Cue Liverpool taking him on loan with no option to buy . . .
Not really. Maybe if it was Mane that was being sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
That'll be next year.
Along with Firmino.
:moop:
Oh ffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I can't help but think that Liverpool would have been better off signing Howedes (just gone to Juve for £3.5m rising to £13.5m if they want to keep him) and Krychowiak (loan to WBA) instead of spaffing quite so much on The Ox, but what do I know?
That said, I bet neither of them were boyhood Liverpool fans, so there is that.
He's twice the player lallana is but without the good decision making. If klopp can get that into him he'll boss it.
Spoiler: He won't.
You should make a custom FM database. I bet it'd be very accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Aye, decent signings for Liverpool - especially if they sign Lemar as it looks - but I'm not sure why they aren't ploughing money into a decent 'keeper or centre half. Seems far too obvious.
Coutinho must be gone otherwise they've got ridiculous depth in midfield
Leeds, Norwich and Fulham going in for Gayle. I had a brain fart and thought £15m might be close to our record sale. Then I remembered Andy. You'd get your £35m back for him in this bollocks climate.
Lallana at 25m seemed a complete rip off but wasn't. This will end the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Should have brought back jordan ibe
Norwich were in for 18m I heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Well, we better be spending that money now because Mitrovic has a three match ban. :moop:
Remember when £18m was the kind of crazy money Villa spent?
£40m on Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Madness. Absolute madness.
He is a direct replacement for coutinhodinho
If they signed Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lemar, and sold Coutinho, then fine. I have no idea how they envisage all of these players fitting into the squad without selling him, frankly.
It's like when I used to sign a load of players on free transfers on FM only to realise that I'd somehow ended up with seven strikers by mistake.
Sign Eidur Gudjonhnson on a free transfer. Sell a week later for £20million. Classic.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
Ox-Cham could become a Herrera-like midfielder apart from the fact that Liverpool only have a bunch of flanges running about there instead of Ogba/Fellainimania and Matic.
Given that Wenger hasn't developed a player successfully for God knows how long now it's hard to tell whether 'the Ox' is a good signing or not.
The fee is all but irrelevant.
Definitely not in for Gayle now confirmed.
If they sign Lemar it would presumably mean Coutinho is off, but otherwise it seems fairly workable.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
Front 3 from : Mane, Salah, Firmino, Sturridge and Coutinho (youths to supplement in lesser comps)
Midfield 3 from: Can, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Oxlade-Chamberlain and Lallana, with the latter two perhaps able to fill in further forward as necessary, and Coutinho could come back into the midfield to break down the defensive wall which is bound to manifest itself quite often.
Basically 2 players for every position so they aren't completely bollocksed by the inevitable injuries which will come.
Stick a top, top centre half in the mix and you might almost be able to forget about the travails in nets.
I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed but I reckon phonics has very quietly had one of the worst days posting I've ever seen on here.
Congrats.
Yesterday was pretty bad for him. And Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
The Ox is Reyes' English regen, good on the ball, shits himself in the tackle. Possibly the first ever transfer that is bad for both teams.
That's a bit like saying 'this is twice the Formula 1 car but without the good speed'.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
If Celtic MoussaDem joins Tottenham MoussaDem as they're saying might happen I'll shit myself
You forgot Ings, la.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Your defence is still bobbins and both goalkeepers seem to only play until they make some ridiculous fuck up and then the cycle repeats.
There should be a rule or maxim for intelligence-related caveats. 'Welbeck's razor' or something.
Barcelona have bid over £100m for Dybala now hahahah. It's not their attach they should be worrying about. Their midfield is past it and their defence is...yeah.
Mahrez is finialising a deal according to Alergia's NT Twitter but no idea where. Assume Chelsea is where he's headed.
There's been rumours of United for the last couple of days.
I don't see the point of another wide player. If Bareth Gale (or even 'Alexis') was available then go for it, but anyone less than top, top drawer is a bit of a waste of time at the moment. The two getting minutes there need them, and there is enough depth for rotation.
He'd be good on the right, but it'd mean binning Mata off for the most part.
It's either Barcelona or Chelsea he's signing for according to Twitter.
He seems quite important to the shape at the moment, but I suppose it wouldn't be a terrible option there.
Poor Danny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
Someone should really take him on loan *COUGH* Brighton.
As has been suggested elsewhere, I don't think there's a particularly feasible personnel based solution to the defence. Without being able to call on defensive titans like Valencia, Jones and Blind there's only so much you can do. I think the problem is more systemic so it's going to have to be full steam ahead on the we'll score more train. Still hoping for Van Dijk (no idea why, but he's the only one they want) but they'll just sign another €100m attacker instead (if wee Phil goes).
Mata/Micky Targaryen are more effective than Mahrez. Valencia could still cover there if needed too.
Mahrez, wouldn't he go to Arsenal? Seems like they have been interested for ages.
I have an acquaintance on my twitter who is a srs bizness Arsenal fan, and he spent the whole of last night retweeting stuff about the club having no money and no one else will be coming in, in a hail of fury. You have to laugh.
Tell him not to worry, a bank busting bid for Jonny Evans is in the pipeline . . .
This Mahrez thing sounds silly - he wants a move but no one has made an offer, so he's sat in Paris airport waiting and hoping, while Algeria - who need a win in Lusaka tomorrow to stay in any realistic contention for the World Cup - get on their jollies.
Classy bloke.
That cant be true. He isnt really in the airport waiting on whatsapp...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Arsenal aren't signing anyone today because they can't afford to due to the massive wages gimps like Matthieu Debuchy and friends are on and the rules about wages in proportion to income. Arsenal, the only team who manage to be poor with 150 mil in the bank. Well run my arse.
Llorente to Spurs to further shit on Chelsea's chips?
No idea.
I guess this means Janssen is available. He might be quite handy for a lower/mid-table side. Google says £23m to West Brom.
'This Vincent Janssen blokes a bit immobile, let's get Fernando on the phone'
Do we have a buyback clause on Patrick Bamford I wonder.
I'm sure whoever has him now will willingly return him.
Arsenal asking £27m for Calum Chambers. What's he done to more than double his value since he signed? Insane.
Footballers are the new London houses.
They escalate in value regardless of objective reality.
English premium ay it.
I liked how arsenal had quite a few english players who get game time. Most of them were average but they got chances in the first team. Looks like they are all getting thrown away now as just not good enough, rightfully so.
Arsenal fans deserve better.
Ipswich fans don't obviously because they all drive tractors, and don't get me started on Peterborough fans.
I'm at the point of apathy where I'm down for selling everyone and we go back to Jack Wilshere putting 6/10 balls through to Giroud. At least I knew why we were shit then.
Has there been any mention of a Southampton sell on clause for Chamberlain? They've not really been linked with anyone specific but it could help them buy another player even at 20%
Most of their sell-on clauses got Jewed out of them when they were in the shit, didn't they?
Are the Arsenal owners trying to do what the Glazers did, just without a good enough manager to make it work?
Really surprised that Danny Ings is still hanging around. He would be ideal for the likes of Burnley, Brighton, Huddersfield or Swansea.
£35m seems to be the official (BBC) price for Oxlade-Chamberlain.
:harold:
If they spend some/most of that on Ross Barkley then, instead of just lolling, we should support the resident Arsenal fans in choosing their new club.
Who thought it would be a good idea for the last day of the window to coincide with a round of international fixtures? Genius.
In a hopefully not prophetic move Brighton are signing the captain of the Costa Concordia from Sporting Lisbon.
http://i.imgur.com/G0P3T6E.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
It's not a wow signing, but it's one I like. Some help at centre back should be the next thing on the list.
See? This shit's funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Could do with a better picture of Pulis but having that up in as people walk by my office was getting dicey.
That will do.
£35m is a pittance these days.
Is Aurier allowed in the country these days?
Yeah, Centre back next and someone to coach them in the art of defending corners.
Yeah his court case was yesterday and got cleared.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
In the top 5 craziest things of this transfer window is Janssen potentially moving to West Brom for 25 million. We bought him for 17, he's shown himself to be completely incapable of playing Premier League football in any game he's played, and now a Premier League team is about to buy him at a nearly 10 million profit. Wondrous.
And all that profit and more is going on 32 year old Fernando Llorente.
Troubling times.
I thought Llorente was at least 36. Seems like he's been around forever.
Bamford's not for sale at any price apparently, so we've had to go back in for Leon Knight.
I'm sure Persib Bandung (?) would be willing to let Carlton Cole go, for the right price, natch.
Christ! Even better. He's recently had his contract terminated with them.
Totally worth it, Llorente is perfect for what he's being signed for.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
I'm pretty such he was sacked last week for being outrageously unfit.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
John Spencer could probably still do a job.
Buying provably crap players from other Premier League clubs is one of my footballing bugbears.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
What do West Brom's scouts do all day?
All West Broms signings this year have been pretty good?
So in news from the shittest club in the league;
1. We've been told to do one after asking about a loan for Mirallas. Ignoring the fact that we need some defenders, we've decided to go for yet another fucking striker.
2. Sakho was initially told he could go to Rennes but we've then cancelled the transfer at the last minute, saying the striker (who wants to leave and didn't show up for training this week) will apparently be a vital part of our plans.
3. Apparently the Carvalho deal won't go through because the owners don't want to pay the extra £2m that Sporting are asking. I don't think there's enough lol's to cover than in a world where 'The Ox' moved for £35m in the last year of his contract.
4. No other deals in the pipeline, because we're fucking shit and our owners are shit.
Seems it's all going on now: along with Schelotto we're after Denswil (some defender from Brugge), there's talk of Krul from Newcastle, and we've rejected a bid from Reading for Hemed (I'm glad we're sticking by him). And we're still after a striker.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Sullivan and Gold are fucking quality. They'll probably take West Ham into League One and beyond.
They'll end up using Dagenham & Redbridge as an outground for when there's monster truck racing in the Olympic Stadium.
I for one look forward to our gutsy Quarter Final exit to Oldham in the Johnstone Paint trophy or whatever it's called these days.
Other than Burke and Krychowiak, both of whom will be new to the league so may well be toss, it's been nothing but punts. Jay Rodriguez missed two full years and was poor last year, Gareth Barry has probably outlived his usefulness in the Premier League, and Kieran Gibbs is rubbish. Hegazy looked alright in his debut, but you're talking about a bloke who's in his mid twenties and has one full season of football in the Egyptian league behind him.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Renato Sanches:
That's how you hype a proper star.Quote:
His arrival further bolsters Clement’s options in midfield, which has been boosted by the recent signing of Sam Clucas from Hull City.
Jordan Sancho off to Dortmund is perhaps one of the more bizarre transfers of the day.
I think it's more likely that that rumour was total nonsense than their transfer dept. is useless. As phonics said, they've done some of the best business in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Renato Sanches to Swansea is one of my favourite transfers ever.
Leverkusen have bought a 19 year old defender with 15 league starts to his name from Olympiakos for £20 odd million. That's got to be a Greek transfer record by some distance.
How did that Renato Sanches thing happen? I know he never lived up to it but is he gone that far downhill?
Dortmund signing a fictional man is a bit odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
There probably aren't many better places to be as a young player than Dortmund.
Paul Clement is Ancelotti's mate. It's a hell of an upgrade from Sigurdsson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Forgot about the Clement factor. They'd have been at Bayern at the same time wouldn't they?
He's been Ancelotti's assistant at a few different clubs, Bayern included.
Wikipedia reliably informs me that he was his assistant at Chelsea, PSG, Madrid and Munich .
"Carlo m8, got any CMs lying about?"
There's a lot of things in the air so how much of it is bollocks I don't know.
Mirror are claiming we've accepted 60 million for Sanchez which has freed up enough profit/wage bill to bring 3 in. The likely candidates being Lemar, Draxler and... Ross Barkley.
Mitroglou to Fulham was the previous one I believe and that one was 12 million or so?Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
EDIT: Manolas was 15 million euros apparently. Still quite the difference, especially for a 19year old, but he was a target of several big teams iirc.
PSG have realised how massively corrupt the loan for MBappe looked and have made it a straight transfer, hence the need to get Draxler out of the door before UEFA's FFP crew get a look at the books.
Have PSG thought all this through, or do they just reckon they can get away with anything? European royalty will ensure they get a lengthy European ban.
Draxler going out the door for forty million isn't going to fill much of the three hundred and fifty million quid hole they'll have made this summer if that Mbappe deal goes through under the new terms. They'll need another hundred million in corrupt sponsorship on top of that.
They've got that coming in from Nike due to the Neymar deal as well as a host of Brazillian sponsors (apparently).Quote:
Originally Posted by John
There's some truly thrilling opinions and takes out there
The guy knows his math :cool:
Can't imagine the equation he had to put into Excel to get that one out. 6 super computers working in tandem for a year to produce that take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cIMlKtfE0
He's sick of it.
That guy is excellence of eloquence personified :cool:
Does 'Robbie' actually manage to carve a living on the back of those people? It's a bit sadistic.
What's this freeing up profit/wage bill business about? Has that come straight from Wenger's box of bullshit?Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
About 40k a month I think it worked out at. Here's the car he just bought:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
https://www.thickaccent.com/wp-conte...RGWMAApdgQ.jpg
You can only increase your wage bill a certain amount every year as a percentage of revenue or whatever, it's in FM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I'm gonna need to see the workings that show Arsenal need to do this before they can buy anyone before my bullshit detector calms down.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
I figured he would make a living from it, but ten grand a week. Fucking hell.
That can't all come from clicks. Do they have mega sponsorship deals or something?
Plus he must have to pay for the equipment/production and presumably pay the contributors.
Making the videos can't be that expensive, and the contributors all claim not to make anything from it (although a few of them have their own 'brands' on the side of it). What a genius.
500,000+ subscribers on YouTube. 10 videos with over 1 million views. It's lucrative stuff.
Honestly gents, we're missing a trick.
My niece is hooked on Ryan's Toys, which started with a kid opening toys and is now videos of him doing any old shit.
Here he is shopping for school stuff, posted 10 days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QMcWL9v9ak
4.3m views and counting.
TTHTV: Magic's Marriage (Angry Rant)
We can get our man involved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMcxUZfcv9Y
Those videos are fucking insane.
Kids videos on YouTube in general are insane. Any old shit will get 5 or 10 million views (my son is happily contributing, and since I let him I suppose I shouldn't complain about it).
Presumably Youtube is about the best babysitter going.
I dont want to jump in with your werido's but arsenal have bid £92m for lemar according to SSN
France are playing the dutch this evening. This is all mental.
YouTube is serious stuff. They're all faking "beef" right now on it and releasing "diss tracks". Half them must own at least one Supercar alone. I'm surprised Arsenal TV is making that amount just off 500k Subscriptions right enough.
Lol at Arsenal bidding £90m for Lemar - they've got the worst of the lot at double the price for leaving it so late.
YT ad revenues have tumbled fairly recently so he's probably not making as much these days. Plus having people swearing throughout tends to get you flagged and that means even less from advertisers.
Pretty much anything can get millions of views on YouTube now if it's packaged right. If it's aimed at children you're looking at billions of views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xqqj9o7TgA
Four hundred and eighty million views.
Isn't the biggest lol about that that Arsenal are supposedly attempting to spunk £90m+ (it's probably bullshit) on a player they don't need?
If they buy him it means Sanchez is off.
That's that deal dead then.
They do need him now Sanchez and Chamberlain are offski, but the fee is bonkers, even taking the inflation into account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Having just looked at the top 20, they all appear to be music videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
With this absolutely dreadful effort at number 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=56&v=kJQP7kiw5Fk
Number of views equivalent to half the globe.
What are the highest views for things that aren't professional music related?
I've never seen him play but I just got Lemar tatooed across my back. If anything goes tits up now, I can just claim it's dedicated to the GOAT.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...t_Easy_CD1.jpg
It was probably PewDiePie. Despacito is a truly awful song enjoyed by terrible people, very popular in football dressing rooms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Are there still not areas they should be strengthening in first?Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
No idea, but the user with most subscribers, almost twice as many as second place, is some twonk who plays games and shouts over them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I had a quick check of Wikipedia, there are only 3 non-music videos in the top 50.
One is a Russian cartoon about a bear (not the one Challenger liked) the next is an animated video of 'Wheels on the bus' and rounding it out is an indian nursery rhyme.
Sanches in my Prem FUT team next season then :drool:
Video games, or folk who started as such, are probably the biggest Youtubers. Pewdiepie, who John mentioned, will be a multi millionaire. Easily.
Just search "FaZe" on YouTube and look at the houses they're living in.
Edit: views wise, popular music songs will always have the most views, obviously.
A weird thing in all this crazyness is meanwhile, Real Madrid has sort of become one of the more sensible clubs in Europe with this new mentality to bet on their own academy and young, spanish talents like Asensio, Carvajal, Isco, etc
PewDiePie, that's the one. From what I've seen his videos should be used to torture captured ISIS soldiers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuIcBPm90aM
Twenty one million views. See how long you can last.
Forgot all about this - superb :DQuote:
Originally Posted by SvN
How do you MIND GAME the entire transfer market?Quote:
Originally Posted by Corporate Mourinho in February
He's since lost all his sponsorship deals due to complaints from people in his neighbourhood blew up.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Quote:
Next week, neighbors are holding a meeting with city leaders, police and code enforcement officials to consider whether or not to file a class-action public nuisance lawsuit against Paul and the homeowner.
“It’s terrible, it’s a bad situation and I feel bad for them, but there’s nothing we can do,” Paul responds. “Jake Paulers are the strongest army out there.
“Dab,” he adds, before dabbing onscreen.
Before signing off the newscast, Paul also turns his camera on the KTLA reporter. He points at his shoes and yells, “What are thoooose?” before running away with his friends.
That could not conceivably be less interesting.
Wolves have bid £10m for Jurgen Locadia who plays for PSV. Anybody know anything about him. He is dutch, and at this particular time. Dutch football is terrible.
He was supposed to be Kluivert, Van Nistelrooy, Makaay, and Van Basten all rolled into one player when he first broke through.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
You man too busy talking about youtube videos of man wearing makeup. Keep this thread for transfer. Take the weirdo talk to the relationship thread.
Chelski have agreed a deal to sign David Zappacost from torino according to SSN who is an italian right back.
Call me ITKQuote:
Originally Posted by phonics
The bloke on SSN now has been talking and gesticulating wildy for maybe three minutes now and he's made up at least fifteen words in the process, as well as mangling several phrases. Sanchez spent last season 'throning it in', apparently.
Presumably he's killed a couple of youngsters to force a move through.
Fucking hell who paid for that? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SvN
'There are only eleven positions in the starting eleven', says our man on SSN. Vital insight.
Is Jim White working himself into a froth?Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Svn paid someone on fiverrQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Soldier
It came out of the TTH Marketing Budget.
He hasn't appeared yet. They'll get the Imperial March out and show him arriving like he's Stone Cold for about sevenish I imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
The man talking condensed bullshit at the moment is Simon Jordan.
Ah, I forgot that Jim White only came in for the last stretch these days.
Steve Evans has turned up with a terrific little centre parting come combover.
It's only one game in fairness, but I thought Barry looked excellent last weekend, and that kind of tidy, composed midfield performance is definitely one I probably wouldn't have picked up as much had I been watching on the telly. Plus I dunno how much it's worth, but most Everton fans on their message board were actually really disappointed to lose him.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
I'm unsure on Rodriguez, but he's looked decent so far. Considering he'll mainly be competition for Rondon up top and for the wingers, he's definitely a useful signing.
Gibbs might be meh, but he's an actual left back, so almost certainly an upgrade on Brunt.
I'm very excited about Krychowiak. I think him and Barry as the CMs (DMs really) could be really excellent in our attritional 4-5-1. I can't believe he won't be an upgrade on Livermore.
You beautiful bastard SVN
I'll give you Rodriguez, but he'll be worth it if his knees can stop imploding.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
You could probably paint most signings as punts if you label anyone from a foreign league as one. These have all been pretty cheap, apart from Burke, and even there it's not a bad price given the his potential. Gibbs is a prime age England international for the price of an egg sandwich.
The excitement on my old mans face as I told him who the Pole that I'm not typing on an iPhone is. He's a WBA forum lurker and immediately jumped for his iPad as I described his time at Sevilla.
He hasn't looked at WBA like that since Kieron Richardson was lifted aloft at the Hawthorns.
Although we all know how it worked out for Borja Valero. He couldn't believe it when I told him what he's up to these days.
Mbappe is done. Mental.
This Sanchez / Lemar thing seems to be off.
Mbappe on loan with the option to buy sounds like the dodgiest deal ever.
PSG are literally pissing in the face of UEFA and FFP.
Is he not working on Talksport for this?Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Liverpool and Palace have agreed a £26m fee for Mama Sakho, and he's on the way for a medical.
I suspect van Dijk still isn't joining, but there's some extra money to play with at least.
£26m for Sakho has just replaced the Johnny Evans rumoured fees as peak current transfer window madness.
Will Sanchez be cup tied for the Champions League or can you play in both European competitions in one season? If he's not cup tied I would imagine he'll go to City in January when Arsenal have found someone willing to sign for them to "replace" him.
Adrien Silva incoming to replace Chelsea bound Drinkwater. Mahrez still whereabouts unknown.
That will depend on how well they do in the league until then, surely.
After all, they already have Aguero, Jesus, Sane, Sterling, Bernardo Silva, David Silva, Kevin de Bruyne - all who are some sort of attacking players (with the latter two being more midfielders these days I suppose).
PSG should be back to pissing that league by thirty points. Neymar and Mbappe ought to get ninety goals between them, assuming Mbappe isn't just the greatest ever one season wonder.
I imagine I'll be disappointed at the last minute but it would be wonderful if he ended up going nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
You can swap Europa League for Champions League but not the other way round.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Watford have signed 'Molla Wague', who absolutely cannot be a real person.
So have Liverpool not given Southampton any money yet?
Not unless there was still an active sell on clause on Chamberlain.
It's not for want of trying though.
Our activity over the summer makes shocking reading. We have no second string.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Don't even have a first choice left back for a couple of months. This season is going to be a proper struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
The Sky Sports guy, who's been at Newcastle all day, has upped sticks to Sunderland for the final few hours :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Surely we're going to sign at least one? Shefki Kuqi on a free?
He was on 10am til 1pm and was loving every second of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
About £2.5m I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
You joke, but maybe he'll replace Rafa now that he's been sacked once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weaver
Having thought he was off Sanchez is surely going to be phoning it in to new levels until he's allowed to leave. Whatever happened to that Webster ruling or whatever it was where you could buy yourself out of your contract?
Brighton may have signed a forward, huzzah! Some dude called Babacar or some such from Fiorentina. Nope, me neither. £16m.
Someone on here (insert your name for credit) mentioned players have figured out its much better for them to earn 100% of £20m and leave on a free than earn 30% of £70m for the transfer fee. Something like that.
Good young freebie in FM, but a quick Wiki shows he's now 24 and has never done anything of note in a top flight league.
Sounds great.
My racial prejudice assumes he's going to be quite athletic, which is something I think they are looking for/need.
You have to wonder about City. If they genuinely wanted Sanchez, and were willing to offer £60m for him, why would they fuck about until now and have it go tits up on the basis of Arsenal being bilge?
It sounds more like just nobbling him to establish their interest for when he can talk to other clubs.
It's better to earn £20m than it is to earn £21m? Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Babacar will turn out a bit like Okaka at Watford, I imagine. Okaka was an FM don too, right?
Anyway, I forgot to let everybody know about my incredible ITKledge from last week. During Brighton v Barnet you'll never guess which football legend turned up... Glenn Roeder! I thought he was a scout at West Ham, but Wikipedia says he's a "managerial assistant" Stevenage. Its difficult to say which of Barnet's stars he may have been looking at, but expect some action.
Sky have Given and Lescott on like it's Match of the Day. I'm out.
SSN has always been shit. Why do people watch it?
Nobody else covers it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
What's there to cover really? Their list of premier league transfers that keeps popping up at the side of the screen has like six players on it.
I will never get my head around why clubs leave so many important and expensive decisions to the very last minute. Do clubs not make plans for recruitment? Or is it good for 'the brand' to be chasing players on deadline day?
I always presumed brand.
You must have done it on FM.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJay
My most recent deadline day panic buy was De Rossi to Liverpool for £16m. :lol:
FM is going to be mental next time round with these fees. It should just be as simple as them doing a multiplier of 5 or 6 on existing code but you know they'll make a hash of it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Toon
That's quite typical yeah. Usually, I think, these guys excel - for their age - at younger ages because they are so much more powerful that their peers. And so they look like better talents than what they are, and get hyped up on places like FM and in Goal.com toplists, etc.
We have some bloke called Davide Zappacosta having a medical. If the name being that of a late 80s F1 backmarker hadn't rung enough alarm bells, I've googled him and he looks like some Sicilian wine waiter.
Yeah but then the problem is some players are peacefully going for quite regular sums, all things considered, between the other leagues. It's just the Premier League and PSG really, and then to some extent the fallout of the teams they raid having more money than they "should".Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Nothing can stand in his way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Why's that a problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
It's not. I turned it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
It should be easy enough to model the impact in the big leagues realistically, but I can see already that Dinamo Goat Herders are going to want £80m for any youngster with any sort of potential. So just an extension of FM17 really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Danny Drinkwater's at Chelsea's training ground, awaiting the thumbs up from Leicester for a medical. No fee has been agreed yet. Tick tock.
Apparently this Babacar fellow doesn't fancy a stint on the south downs.
Has anyone bought Niasse yet?
Mahrez doing his best Peter Odemwingie impression then hahahah
What is the deal with Tim Krul anyway? He was highly rated once upon a time. Did that bizarre penalty sub thing break him? Has he just fallen out with Rafa (surely not!) or is there something else there? My Brighton sources tell me he's going to be their 3rd choice, which seems rather :cab: seeing as their first choice is a midget Australian who has difficulties with the ball coming straight at him.
"You can't live in Liverpool all your life" Amazing from 'Merse'
That's Llorente, Chamberlain, Lukaku and now Barkley all turning down Chelsea.
What's going on there that he knocked them back? He seemed desperate to leave Everton and wouldn't go to the league champions?
Sidelined with a long injury. When he returned, he had two established keepers ahead of him. Yet, we slapped a new contract on him last season before the Ajax loan. It's all been compounded by his lack of game time which... Brighton might not give him.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Turned us down during the medical they say. Did the doctor touch him up or something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Doubt he'd get a game with us tbh.
He clearly heard the 'if you go a chippy in London it doesn't do gravy' and quickly left.
The Everton owner sounds gutted about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Another moved killed by his shit decision-making.
He'll be after a bigger sell on fee when he leaves on the cheap in January.
Apparently not as they have a real problem with people making imposter videos that seem legit but are actually disturbing for kids, but still generate views and therefore money. Like Peppa Pig except Peppa goes to the dentist and scream whilst all her teeth get drilled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
@Reg did Towell go on loan after? I don't see anything mentioned.
:lol: Trolling kids is a pretty dreadful waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
Probably really annoying if you actually have kids but that's hilarious.
Slammed shut
That countdown was underwhelming
Toddler crack, as it is known, is fairly ubiquitous on youtube and you don't really run into the bad stuff all that easily (there's just too much fucking mother goose club and disney collector out there). I'd say Amazon Instant Video is a better babysitter, although the tc makes it onto there increasingly as well, albeit slightly differently.
Get the fuck outta here with these youtube talk.
Is walcott still at arsenal or did he also get sold?
They tried to sell him but the buying club rejected him.
We're down. There's no way we can survive with Atsu at left back. Sterry, Laschaaf, Dummet. All knackered or sold. Jesus Gamez? Is he fit?
Brighton have got their season resting on a mysterious late extension and the hope that Vincent Jansson (who seems to be the rumoured player) isn't as shit as most of you think. Hmmm.
Makes sense with the various Spud connections and he's probably better than anything they have at the moment, even if he is dreadful.
Dortmund have actually given Jadon Sancho the number 7 shirt. Fucking hell. If he'd stayed in England there's no way he was ever getting below 25.
I don't understand how a 17 year old can "force a move". Just deal with the week long strop.
Rotherham have just announced they've got him on loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Pretty happy with Krul. Hope we give Ryan a proper chance though.
I can't recall seeing Schelotto play. But he seems a high pedigree player for us to have on the bench.
Is Jadon Sancho going to be good, or is he Ravel Morrison?
This is the shittest #DeadlineDay I remember there being in a while.
He's pretty great in youth games, but fuck knows what that means. He's never played a senior game. Has a brilliant turn of pace which is obviously going to make you look good against Norway u17s but his end product is generally pretty swish as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Shrewd of him to move to the best club he could possibly be at, presuming he is good though.
To continue the strangeness, it would have to be a permanent move because we've used up our two PL loans.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
What an odd life it must be as a footballer sometimes. Think you're the second choice striker for a title contender then suddenly you have a couple of hours to decide if you fancy committing the next few years of your life to a relegation favourite.
I assumed his contract was up (or hadn't yet signed a proper one), but it's an actual transfer. As you said, how do you let a seventeen year old force a move?Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
Mugged off by Janssen I see. It's going to be a long old haul until January now.
It looks like Drinkwater and Zappacosta were confirmed by Chelsea before the deadline, but nothing from Leicester about Adrian Silva coming.
Apparently the Spanish window is still open until midnight tonight, so Costa, Coutinho and a few others could still move yet.
Chelsea have completely shit the bed this window. Hilarious stuff.
All the kids want to be 'youtubers' when they're older, but YouTube is banned/inaccessible in most schools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
PSV decided they do not want to sell him in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/33.png
'Who are you?'
'I'm a signing, mate.'
Ravel Morrison has signed for some mexican team called atlas
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...can-Atlas.html
That Chelsea training top looks exactly like the England away shirt.
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Good luck to Ravel. I do expect him to be as arrested crossing the border beck into the UK with a shipment of cocaine in his hand luggage.
A guy I work with is related to Sancho bizarrely. Rejected a 30k contract at City.
Getting into man city as a youngster via the youth system does sound difficult. Dortmund as a youth, sounds good from my perspective. Given the number he has been given, sounds like he could be used in the first team on the regular.
Barkley must have forgot that the medical consists of a drug and alcohol test. Must not of wanted to go through that off the back of a bank holiday weekend.
As some have pointed out, agreeing personal terms and then changing your mind during a medical is an odd thing.
lol at Virgil van Dijk, by the way. Southampton should make him train with the kids for the rest of his contract.
I dont think ive seen a transfer window with so many players expected to leave, but either they were forced to stay or nobody came in for them worth talking about.
All the players involved, especially mahrez, van dijk and bartley need to be playing for their freedom.
I'm fucking glad that clubs are taking control. It's good for the players themselves that they're not jumping ship every time a slightly better club comes sniffing. It's also good for the other clubs.
Also, anyone know what Barkley's racial background is? He's definitely got some black in him but he looks way too white to be half-black. Quarter maybe? Ryan Giggs tier?
He has a Nigerian grandad or something like that.
Its a gift and a curse.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
I prefer players to move around all the time. especially to rival clubs. I dont feel players should be held at a club against their will. Selling and buying players is part of the game.
Clubs are in absolute control. I dont know how transfer work 100% but the club has to accept an offer for a player before he can leave. If a player is at a club, and a bid is accepted. It shows the club really does not give a fuck about the player in the first place. If they did, they offer wouldnt be accepted in the first place. The club need to be loyal, not the players.
Whilst I understand the sentiment... players really shouldn't be signing 5 year contracts if they feel they may want to move on in a couple of years. Coutinho, for example, signed a 5 years contract just 6 odd months ago. It's a bit of a pisstake. That said, I'm not a fan a players being treated like assets by clubs - so I agree, that there needs to be some middle ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel
Most players will have literally zero control over their future, agents will do it all for them and make the decisions. Especially applies to the likes of Brazilians who have been lifted out of poverty.
Whoever is advising van Dijk has had an absolute nightmare.
Wazza has used his break from International Football well. He's been arrested for drink driving.
It'll be hilarious is Everton just let Barkley run down his contract and train with the kids, scuppering any chance of him making the World Cup squad.
I never understand rich people getting done for drink driving. They've got enough money for a taxi or even to pay a driver to drive their car home.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Darron Gibson did it while also at Everton (crashed into a petrol station) and got a pay rise. :cab:
Meanwhile I'm just thinking that Mourinho was not involved in any of all this madness, and his comments about Lukakus fee going to end up being "cheap" or whatever now makes quite a lot of sense.
There's a strange pivot that's happened where Mourinho seems like one of the more normal ones in extreme situations.
Sounds like Arsenal have really played a blinder with their handling of Sanchez. Can't see how he'll really be bothered to play for them again. If you're going to strongarm someone into seeing out their contract you can't say they can go at the last minute and then pull the rug out from under their feet. Now they'll get substandard service for a few months, if he even bothers to come back from Chile, before selling him for a fraction of what they could have in January. Ingenious.
I'd have got rid, accepted a mid-table finish and played Iwobi/whoever's next off the conveyor belt.
They may not even be able to sell him in January. In January, anyone from overseas can approach him to sign a contract and June them in June 2018. Teams can try and sign him for transfer in January but he could negotiate on a bosman also in January. He could agree to leave for free.
I doubt they'd be midtable, but they're also unlikely to get into the top 4 with or without Sanchez so I don't really understand what they're playing at. Particularly with the late shenanigans. You can't really fuck someone over like that, even if it seems the right/understandable thing to do. The likes of Coutinho and Van Dijk are in much weaker positions with regard to their clubs, and their clubs stayed consistent (well, I suppose Coutinho could still go but I doubt that will happen now).
Charlie Adam said him staying was the best transfer deal this Summer. Lol.
He won't give a fuck if he plays, they won't finish top 4 and they'll get nothing for him.
TOP BUSINESS.
Arsenal made a nice £17 million profit this summer. That should get Arsene a nice new kitchen, or perhaps another vineyard in the Alsace.
I saw a rumour linking Ozil with Barcelona tonight. I have no idea where he will go next, but I'd say it's more likely to be Besiktas than Barca.
UEFA have opened an investigation into PSG - and so it begins. They'll miss several years of CL football when it's done.
I can't imagine the FFP rules will stand up to any serious legal scrutiny, so hopefully PSG go nuclear.
They'll get a heavy fine and a squad restriction though.
£30m profit and it's all going into the LA Rams new stadium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I thought the poor cunt taxpayers got lumped with the bill when a sports FRANCHISE moves town.
Mad looking stadium they're building too. Presumably the Chargers are stumping up half though.
Ryan Kent has joined SC Freiburg on loan for the season. Good move for him, that.
You seem to have an awful lot of faith in UEFA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
It's not 'faith' man, it's reasoning about the motivations of the powers at be. Level 2 thinking, let's say. Level 1 thinking being the typical John "i am well-read and it has happened this way in the past; therefore, it will happen this way again" and then Level 2 as "i understand why things happened the way they did in the past, and i can apply this to my worldview in the present."Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
It must be devastating for them that other clubs didn't just hand their players over for free.
Did I read that they threatened to not bid for him any more at one point?
"We'll let you keep your best player and see how fucking like that, you cunts!"
€200m :D
Not even the most hardened tinfoil hatter could argue he's worth that in any era of transfer madness.
Well, obviously. It was clearly designed to either a) not lead to his sale or b) if it led to his sale, it was at a value that nobody could argue the point.
Of course, the far more likely scenario is that Barcelona are spinning their failure to sign the player for a domestic audience.
It's clearly made-up.
Did anyone else miss Chelsea spending two-hundred million quid? Half of it seems to be on rubbish as well.
They could have done with a few extra players, but after their initial three signings everyone they were buying are clearly squad players. Probably why everyone rejected them.
I have faith in 'The Big Clubs'.Quote:
Originally Posted by dino
I love when Bruno de Carvalho gets in the news, it's always good.
Sporting and West Ham are in a bit of a spat over the William Carvalho transfer that didn't happen. Here's his quote:
"Where is it? Proof? Now, approaches, for sure. I’ve had them for almost the whole squad: West Ham supporters call Mr. David Sullivan and his brother, the Dildo Brothers…
“These messengers, these offended virgins, the president of West Ham… We must tell the truth!”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41118927
Fifa has rejected Leicester City's application to register midfielder Adrien Silva after the club missed the deadline by 14 seconds.
lol
It seems ridiculous to me that clubs cut it so fine. Could they really not come to an agreement and get things going 1 day earlier? It's not like it was some mega £200m drawn out SAGA.
Although they are obviously crooked nobends, I kind of agree with Fifa sticking to the deadline. Of course you can lol at it being '17 seconds' but if you start making exceptions then you're definitely on a SLIPPERY SLOPE.
Probably not, as Drinkwater was happening similarly late.
I remember arshavin being outside the emirates stadium at 2am waiting for the transfer to arsenal to be completed. Funny business.
I just discovered via FM that Rodrigo Possebon of United fame is now playing in non-league of Brazil at the age of 28.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41188235
Reckon that's a decent move for all concerned, except agents and the press.
Jannssen has gone to Fenerbache on loan. He looked like Soldado 2.0 from day one so no surprise really.
There's talk that Spurs were trying to force him out. Can't blame him for going there after turning us down.
I missed that closing the transfer window stuff. It's a good idea, but a bit daft to just do it unilaterally. The big clubs should be alright, but everyone else is just going to be held to ransom (as with everything I suppose).
What do you mean?
If the dirty foreign clubs know our sides have to get their business done earlier than everybody else they have more leverage. The big clubs won't care and will just pay whatever (like they do anyway), but Arsenal and newly-promoted sides might be less happy to pay any further premiums.
Or maybe they will be less likely to piss about knowing English sides can't wait around for some idiot to force a move. Whatevs.
I was thinking the latter tbh, it just means other leagues will have to operate to such an extent on the English schedule, since British transfers are such a big proportion of money spent, that nothing will really change that much, except that the squads will all be decided before the season starts, which is good.
You can see this with places like France (who feed most of their players to the UK anyway) already going for the window shift themselves.
I heard some interesting news today.... Cristiano Ronaldo would apparently be up for moving to the MLS in 2019, but would also want some club equity, similar to the Beckham deal at Miami.
Given he'll likely still be a monster in 18 months time it sounds like bullshit.
If his Twitter is anything to go by he seems to have significantly upped his brand/cashing-in stuff over the past year, so it wouldn't be all that surprising if he went over there whilst he could still kill it (and command an equity share) rather than turning up shit and looking like Mickey Rourke.
Yeah, that's horse shit. For all his faults he seems more interested in winning shit and being the best than being a big fish in a puddle of diarrhoea.
Yeah, but if his winningism is just egomania (which it is) then going out on his own terms and building/establishing a new club around himself sounds right up his street.
It came direct from his representatives... but of course, they could have just been talking balls (to big him up).
To do it right, they need to also name the location of the franchise after him.
They were talking to LAFC representatives, but apparently they wouldn't commit to anywhere. It's obviously never going to be Phoenix, Seattle or somewhere shit like that - LA Galaxy perhaps - Miami you would think is a little too Beckham-centric.
I can't see him going to somewhere like China... the only options you'd think are retire at Real, rejoin Man Utd or head to the US.
Option 4: Return to Sporting and grab all of Jardel's records.
Do Madeira have a team?
Maritimo, Uniao, Nacional. He started at the latter.
I had no idea that Maritimo were from Madeira.
He'll go to America soonish, as he will want a long-lasting media presence and America is where all the revenues are for that.
Wikipedia informs me that David Beckham 'had received an option to buy an expansion franchise for $25 million as part of the contract he signed with the league when he joined the Los Angeles Galaxy'. That is some serious foresight from somebody whose supposed thickness was a national joke at the time. :cool:
I think he struggled early on to get a site for the stadium in Miami - but I think they may have recently secured something. Inter Miami :drool:
The Cleveland Cristiano's? Rhode Island Ronaldo's?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
The dumbest England player of recent times was definitely Rio Ferdinand. If you read his twitter feed for long enough you'll go blind.
That's a bold claim in such a competitive field.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
Let's not forget Steven Gerrard once said his favourite type of cheese was 'melted'.
Let's not forget Jamie Redknapp exists.
It looks like Rio's twitter got taken over by agents now, sadly. Used to be a goldmine.
Honestly sounds like something I'd sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
No, I'm talking you literally rename an American town or state after Cristiano Ronaldo and then base the team there. The Cristiano Ronaldo Ronaldo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Aren't you basically American now though? They don't know shit about cheese.
We like cheese, Julia Child did us wonders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Monterey Jack isn't cheese. Plastic shite.
"Cheese food"
:sick:
Wisconsin is famous for cheese isn't it? Some of it must be passable.
American cheeses are solid of course, but Spikey and squad can't pass up an opportunity to shit on America for whatever it gets brought up in relation to.
Your food is generally great, but the cheese I have encountered has been utter shit.
Solid? I thought they were usually whipped in an aerosol can?Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
I think America approach cheese in the way we approach coffee (or at least how less middle-class people of the previous generation did) - badly. I remember my dad's slightly batty ex-girlfriend (no, not my mum) making us a big flask of coffee for a day delivering catalogues, and she put about half a tea-spoon of Nescafe Gold in it. Madness.
Well, I suppose that's better than approaching cheese in the way they approach coffee.
Melted cheese is the only good cheese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Sounds like he was bang on.
I'm intrigued about people's coffee habits now.Quote:
Originally Posted by igor_balis
I'll say I've encountered way more junk food in London than I'd ever find in anywhere i've lived in the states. Now, no one can compete with the American South, and they probably raise our overall numbers by a lot on their own, but it was interesting anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Melted cheese isn't a type of cheese though you melt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Sorry, I should've been more specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
Melted orange cheese.
Enough about Mahow's foreskin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Benzema signs a new four year deal. He is 30 this year. I dont know what the plan is with him, but given the influx of attacking youngsters they have, I would have though benzema would have been moved on. C.Ronaldo would take up the CF postion in his old age and fill in the blanks. He has been there nine years now.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...at-real-madrid
So we had Tim Krul on loan for the current season. And we've now signed him on a permanent contract ... lasting the current season. The only two possible reasons: so that he can play against Newcastle on Sunday, and/or so we can loan another Premier League player. It seems strange but maybe it's not costing much.
The fuck? We made such a big deal about him signing a new contract before last year's loan to Ajax. I'm sure it was a three-year extension.
EDIT: Nah, out of contract in the summer. Probably the only way we'd get anything out of him.
What happened with him? He was fairly decent before the latest relegation.
Has he done anything since the World Cup penalty lolfest?
He did his cruciate at one point I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
I think his injury record has played against him, as well as other goalkeeper's doing well in his absence (Elliot, Darlow, and we've high hopes for Freddie Woodman)Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamski
Because Krul has tenure, he's on quite big money, and Benitez seems to trust Elliot, leaving Krul kicking about doing nothing.
Costa deal been agreed to Atletico. Him under Simeone again :drool:
The Chelsea transfer crooks look to have struck again.
£58m for a lad you don't even want in the building is good going.
£58m for a 28 year old top, top striker is probably a bit of a bargain these days.
'Atleti' have been conned there.
He can only play once a week because his hip is made of marbles or some bollocks. Who knows how long he has left at the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Its smells of torres to chelsea.
Should've went to China and disabled some poor Chinese internationals.
He's never going to play for Chelsea again and is presumably on mental money. Atletico could have offered half of what they did and Chelsea would have been pleased to have got rid of him.
Ozil off to the MLS next summer....
Seems a tad early for him - but given he's a bit of bottler - doesn't really surprise me.
How the fuck have Chelsea got that much for Costa???? Baffling.
Sir Nigel Pearson apparently taking over at Belgian second tier side OH Leuven.
Maybe not so surprising as they are a Leicester City feeder club but he was sacked (twice) so still a bit odd.
While I do think he'd be mega for them. I don't think Evertons issues with pace are going to be solved by signing Olivier Giroud.
For £40m.
A picture of the man in his underpants is worth that alone. Needs to lose the beard though.