Why is Corbz touring safe seats in the north east today?
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Why is Corbz touring safe seats in the north east today?
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What effect do you all reckon these attacks will ultimately have on the result of election?
Under normal circumstances you could make something of government cuts to the police (not that there is actually anything in it), but having your top team consist of life-long terrorist sympathisers more than likely cancels that potential advantage out.
The attacks will have no effect on the result. The only way they would is if one of the leaders had an absolute meltdown like Aznar in 2004, which wouldn't happen here because the message control is so tight.
Diane Abbott on sky last night was her usual terrible best. I'm not sure why she couldn't just say 1) I haven't read the Harris report or 2) say she can't remember the specifics (they probably are summarised loads of documents daily). Instead she just flounders and ends up looking like the idiot she is.
Exactly, if she just says 'I haven't read it' then the worst that could happen is Dermot says 'why hasn't the Shadow Home Secretary read a report!!!?!!' and no one gives a shit.
Need Labour to get backed in on Betfair. Because I assume, if the general consensus on here is that the Conservatives will achieve a greater majority, then there's probably not too much value in Tories o370.5 seats @ 2.18. Although perhaps it should be under evens so there is a bit of value.
Hoppefully it will drift a bit more.
I would put the handicap at about 370-373 (though the only money I have on is a small amount on bigger Tory wins).
The best value I can see out there is Tory majority (full stop) at 1.23. In my view that is a certainty. I just don't have enough cash to really make the bet worthwhile.
The various 'Lib Dems to do terribly' bets are quite attractive too.
What even is Tim Farron and how on earth did he become leader of the Lib Dems?
Yeah, so little to no value then. I suppose these events are best to bet on 'in-play' once you can start to have a clearer picture on vote patterns and can extrapolate for the rest of the country. I doubt the market would be anywhere near as incompetent in reacting at they were when Trump was elected, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Sunderland South should be a very useful seat to declare first, if indeed it does. Labour will hold it, but UKIP were second last time and if there's a big transfer of the vote from UKIP to Tory then it'll be time to invest in Theresa May's strong and stable leadership in the national interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IsbT--C3Io
OK so I thought the song was a pisstake but it's his genuine election song, apparently.
The Tory seats line was 385.5 or higher with most books two weeks so if you subscribe to the theory that the labour surge is being exaggerated then there's most likely value in it now.
I don't necessarily think it's being exaggerated but I do think it isn't going to work well for them in terms of seats. I'm going to cover 100-124 probably later today or tomorrow unless the market smells the coffee. Quite relaxed about a bit of red on 75-99.
I reckon Barrow will go Tory, like Copeland before it. A lot of industrial backwaters are actually isolated and racist, so Jez's love in won't play aswell (even though the Tories hate the very idiots voting for them there).
Right, I've dabbled.
http://i.imgur.com/VUe3bgs.jpg
Slight bottle job with a small saver on 75-99 but I'm quite happy with that going into Thursday.
What does that mean?
The green ones are scenarios in which I win money, and the red ones are scenarios in which I lose money.
If you started thinking of losses as 'x amount of hours working for Koreans', would you be less likely to gamble?
That's just under two days, after tax. Quite expendable.
I've gone off a daft Labour victory now because Diane Abbott would wind up as his deputy PM.
She has to be the least qualified person ever put forward for major office.
https://order-order.com/2017/06/06/d...ail-prankster/
I mean, for fuck sake.
I've just had a chance to see this. Good fucking grief.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Is it this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ2l8Cs-Lc4
I'm only a couple of minutes in but was already struck by this.
"Have you spoken to any Extremist Muslims"
"I have a Muslim community in Hackney who're all horrified by these attacks"
"But there's an ideology out there, so isn't it worth talking to some to find out more about it, as Corbyn has done"
"I have a Muslim community in Hackney who're all horrified by these attacks"
Nope, not having that.
Now I've never even been to Hackney, but as sure as I have a hole in my arse there will be some Muslims in Hackney who weren't remotely horrified by the attacks.
Fucking hell.
What the fuck is she doing? Does she even want to win?
That is the most bizarre complaint you could possibly conjure up after watching that, Yev. She's an awful speaker.
I was commenting on it as I was watching it and that was the first thing that stuck out. Having now seen it all things obviously got far worse and she is absolutely dreadful, but I'm still not having that line being peddled. It's manifestly not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reg
Cannot wait for another Tory term fucking buzzing gonna be a great laugh lol
What site are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Paul Mason, whose elevation to the role of public intellectual sums up the decline of the left (and I suppose the entire political process) better than most things, reckons that the Conservative Party are making a point of lolling at Diane Abbott to woo racists.
If THE MEDIA is anything to go by, racists are the largest voter demographic everywhere, so that is a smart move.
They absolutely are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
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What's happened to John McDonnell in this campaign? And why haven't they stuck Abbott wherever they've hidden him? Slough apparently.
So what she isn't completely useless?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
She's not great but she gets so much more stick for any mistakes she makes than any white male Tory does.
All politicians are fucking useless, tbh. We've just slipped into the Yank bubble of bullshit before fucking facts. I'm on some work course at the moment and holy shit its insane how a fuckload of the populace are incredibly thick. Serious retard level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
That Theresa May interview someone posted not that long ago wasn't much better.
I can't think of a white male Conservative who not only fucks up every interview they do, but does so because of their misplaced arrogance. Boris Johnson is the nearest, and he gets plenty of shit. It just gets balanced out by the people who respect him as a chancer, which is a pool of goodwill she has never created for herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Anyway, the amount of grief Theresa May has been getting over the past few weeks, with her clear discomfort/uselessness being lolled at in ways that when it was Ed Miliband (or Gordon Brown) everybody was bealing over, more than matches people lolling at Abbott making a twat of herself.
Abbott is also effectively being put forward as the next Home Secretary - it carries a much higher degree of scrutiny than if she was just some backbench MP lolling her way through every interview.
That she fucks up every single public appearance she has doesn't mean that broadcasters should stop interviewing her or pundits highlighting her errors. The question is why she's the shadow home secretary to begin with, and "everyone else refused to serve Jez" wouldn't be a justification for going 'easy' on her.
They're highlighting Diane Abbott because she'll be showing up in focus groups as off the scale negative reaction from voters (in the same way they highlight Corbyn being a retard, and Labour accuse everyone they don't like of being in bed with Farage).
Paul Mason claiming racism only serves to rally the existing Twitter support, so I'm not sure what his game is.
Paul Mason was presumably a repressed communist for the duration of his spell with the mainstream media, and now all the Stalinist nonsense is erupting in one big go. A bit like someone shaking a bottle of coke and ripping the lid off rather than turning it slowly to release it bit by bit.
What confuses me is why he's given the time of day by broadcasters - it's not as if he understands nuance.
On Abbott - her fuck up on police numbers was showing heavily in focus groups, and it clearly had huge cut through to your average voter. You have to start from a base that everything the Tories do under Crosby is underpinned by cold logic and strategy. Nothing they do hasn't been thoroughly tested beforehand.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBqwiktUAAAbFSR.jpg
They've gone for it.
She's said she'll modify human rights laws too. Well won the racist vote.
Also Abbott might be terrible at interviews but is she a good politician?
She's not, no. As below:
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/u...t-10.23.18.png
It's such a weak story.
What did Corbyn supposedly say at that rally?
I'd suggest not. I mean, it's clouded by the fact she's previously been in a relationship with Wor Jez. That'll tarnish any role she's handed. Forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic