The shame bit was a figure of speech, but now you mention it it is a shame for us all as we have another two years of aimless governing.
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The shame bit was a figure of speech, but now you mention it it is a shame for us all as we have another two years of aimless governing.
I doubt they'll manage to last that long, some other scandal will trip them up.
He's fucked himself with Zahawi now as well. He should have just sacked him yesterday but now he's let PMQs pass so he'll either have to sack him later but it looks like Starmer bullied him into it, or he doesn't sack him and they add another "rules don't apply to us" scandal to the list.
It'll turn out he has done the same thing and that's why he hasn't sacked him. Boris Johnson will then return and win five straight elections.
Lol
If this were a computer game you'd just hit quit and do not save, followed by an angry email toFrythe developers demanding a patch.
Yep I've heard more and more of this needing to cut taxes in the press the past few days. I'm not sure that resonates with most of the country though. Personally I would probably pay more tax if I knew the money was being well spent(rather than rinsing everything through as an expense). I think a good proportion of the country would be happier if rather than a bullshit idea that doesn't really help anyone they came up with ideas as to how to spend the money they do have better.
Tax cut = price rises. We are living through inflation that hasn't been seen since before Maggie started personally opening up miners heads with a truncheon. I don't understand how people's memories are so short. Or - more likely - how it's possible to be so transparent about your own self interest and maintain a career as a politician.
A lot on the Tory benches know they are out next time and a lot of them probably need the money badly. If I were Rishi Sunak I'd call an election, then resign, abandon them to their fates and become a national hero. But no.
Even for those who aren't personally in trouble, there's a sort of visceral need to cut taxes because it's what they're in politics to do and they sense there won't be another Tory PM to do it for a while.
Is it election time yet?
Prioritising tax cuts goes back to half of them not really understanding what Thatcherism was, so they see it as an easy solution to all of the economic problems caused by things (planning, productivity, etc.) that would require actual governing. Much like how subsidy is seen as the other solution to everything, even subsidised demand running up against government-induced shortages.
While tax cuts are probably a bad idea (definitely in the way Truss did them), this all once again ignores the elephant in the room that none of this is going to change anything for the better while Europe is on a war footing/it relies so heavily on Russian energy.
Chuck in the absolute fisting that appears to have been made of the Brexit 'opportunities' and we're simply not addressing the actual problems.
Didn't Thatchers success cone from completely reinventing our economy? From barely functioning industrial units to "Services"?
I'm not sure I trust any of this lot to reinvent our economy. They'd end up bringing back feudalism.
From what I understand that is the crux of it, copying Thatcher's homework forgets that privatisation has largely been a costly failure for tax payers and service users, there's barely anything left to privatise except the golden goose.
Similarly copying Reagan's homework overlooks the part where the dollar is ubiquitious as global currency and perceived as safe by almost everyone so good for hoarding assets. No-one outside of Britain thinks it's a good idea to do that with sterling now it's value has cratered, we voted for chaos and our last prime minister needed help to find her way out of a room she'd not long entered, appointing a chancellor who lolled as he crashed the markets.
They need a clunking fist Brown style gold sell off plan but the optics would be terrible and condemn them to the political wilderness for decades.
A lot of what Thatcher did was 'obvious' insofar as the problems and solutions had been identified twenty years beforehand, which was also why it was very harsh in some cases, because it was all twenty years over-due. The remarkable thing about her was simply that she managed to do it, where every previous Prime Minister had looked at the unemployment forecasts and thrown another billion at the already failing *anything* industry.
This is what I was saying through the Liz Truss interlude. If companies can't do anything because Cambridgeshire County Council won't let them expand their laboratory space, and energy costs never go down because we won't commit to new energy projects, what good is two pence off your corporation tax?
Is that lab space thing a real issue?
There was a Financial Times thing about it over the summer, and the government also canned the potentially brilliant 'Oxford-Cambridge Arc' because they didn't want to upset local MPs. Levelling Down.
Ffs.
It's this again. The most famous example was Jaguar having to buy Daimler out in 1960 purely to acquire the nearby Browns Lane factory, because the government had told them that if they wanted to expand they had to move production to Scotland or somewhere stupid. Stupid government.
Zahawi gone. Only, what, a week and a half of fucking about? Nice.
I hope for Sunak's sake his intention was to make himself look as weak as possible, because he's nailed it.
Just seen Boris saying Putin threatened to bomb him. Kremlin have denied it obviously. Now I wouldn’t normally believe him but I have to side with Vlad on this one.
They're probably both lying somehow.
Who would have thought trickle-down economics wouldn't work?
They still have 2 years left. It's just going to be interesting to see how bad they can make it at this point.
Who would've thought - when every person with any economic or business background was saying Brexit would fuck us economically - that Brexit would fuck us economically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Truly unforeseeable.
So after all the sanctions thatve been put on Russia to cripple their economy, it turns out they’re going to do better than us. Someone explain that to me.
https://i.ibb.co/6R4V1LW/3936-2624-2...pg-gallery.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by 7om
Pork markets.
Most of the non Western world still trades with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7om
So are we, albeit indirectly. We will be buying Russian gas via a third party. Coming to a Panorama special soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
My mob are selling to Russia through back channels, as I imagine everyone in the western world is doing. It's pretty simple: the Russian organises a potemkin company in Turkey or Armenia, you sell to them, nothing to do with Russia on the paperwork, then the Russians take over from there.
Can't believe we haven't sold enough Jam and Lemon Curd to Indonesia to offset Russian steel and gas. The Blue Passport does look nice though.
My wife has one, it's virtually black and flimsy as fuck. Got my EU-adorned version until 2027. :cool:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-64573457
Didn't take him long. I'm sure this appointment will end well for the Tories.
I haven't yet got into the electoral nerdery that I so love (far too early) but currently I reckon they're in danger of hitting double figures in terms of seats.
Thing is, he's probably right in that you can survive on 30k without needing food banks. The problem is that - once again - they are showing that they have a very 1900 attitude towards the plebs. If we can survive, we should stop moaning. What do we want luxuries like holidays and coffee shops for?
It's funny, the economy was all these cunts cared about a short while ago. Now that pay rises are required to sustain it....
I still love that Jack Monroe reckoned she was going to sue him and attacked him for his 30p meals despite that being her niche for years.
He's thick and not from the South East. If he was in the Labour Party they would be tipping him for high office.
Here he goes again:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64580487
Not the most tactful fellow. What does Sunak gain from having a maniac like this in a prominent position? He's hardly got a huge following and could very likely lose his seat at the next election.
Self-sabotage from within the ranks is literally the only explanation.
Don't you just know this is why millions of people will vote Tory? Sadly your country is full of frothing fucking lunatics determined to take you back to the stone ages.
The Jared O'Mara plotline is worth a giggle. Let that be a lesson for promoting these rat-looking specimens to positions of power.
Populism is great until you massively misread the room constantly for the past two years or so. They're unravelling and it's great to see. Classical "small c" conservatives must be cringing themselves all the way to a decade of irrelevancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Magic
It's not outside the realms of possibility that he's the best they have left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Brexit. Populism works, especially when people are fucking miserable and have nothing to look forward to. This is when kicking those underneath you is rampant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
It's clearly not working anymore though. Some clueless charlatan parroting the death penalty won't turn any tides, he's about 30 years too late for that to even be any kind of vote winner. These fucks will get punted into Opposition next year and will only return when the Brexit lunatics desert and the party can pivot back to its traditional conservatism.
Brexit invented Crash TV politics here and now people have seen what a fallacy it is, it'll die.
Which years were the ones marked by 'traditional conservatism', and how were they different to now?
Hug a hoodie better together Cameron years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis