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Team is in transition after the loss of Brionne to a Salandit's Dragon Rage (fuck off). Only Diglett remains from the island one team and has been joined by a bunch from the second. Drowzee fell to a Cubone and Kangaskhan double team. The squad, having beaten the fire totem, is:
Lv26 Herdier
Lv26 Charjabug
Lv24 Gyarados
Lv23 Diglett
Lv22 Salandit
Used up quite a few Potions keeping everyone alive in the grass totem fight. Thought it would be easy enough if it brings out its pre-evo but it chucked a Castform in there who proceeded to set up Sunny Day for it. In the end it ran out of Synthesis and was just using Razor Leaf, so I finished it off with an Ice Fang or something. Now off to fight the Kahuna with the following team:
Herdier - 28
Gyarados - 27
Charjabug - 27
Salandit - 27
Trumbeak - 27
Diglett - 25
PC:
Zubat - 22
Comfey - 18
That's why my Nuzlocke lot limited ourselves to 1 potion per fight, it's too easy if you can just heal every turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_3
Lot of people rolling with Herdier. You'll regret not doing the Lillipup for Bounsweet trade. :drool:
I only use the potions I find.
Surely by the time you get to the day care in the ranch you'd have caught something in the grass before it, making the trade void.
The trade is in the Route 5 Pokemon Centre, not the ranch from memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_3
However our rules have always been that in game trades are allowed as long as you caught the pokemon they want within the rules of the Nuzlocke. Otherwise say you caught Lillypup on Route 1 and the trade was on Route 2 (it's not but an example), that would mean Bounsweet has cost you 2 routes worth of Pokemon (Route 1 and Route 2) which isn't fair, so if you end up with 2 Pokemon on Route 2, so be it, because technically Bounsweet was your Route 1 capture.
The thing with Nuzlocke is so many rules are open to interpretation and personal decisions, but that's how we've always done it. You can't go and break the rules and catch Lillypup for the trade even if you've not seen anything where the trade is, but if you get him through the natural course of play you can trade him regardless.
I also have a Pancham that I've considered trading for Happiny... a Blissey would be :drool: but I'm not sure I can be bothered.
You're probably right about the trade.
Where about are you at now?
Not much further than you in all honesty, I've not played since I returned to work. Not sure why I haven't picked it up this weekend. Hopefully tonight/tomorrow I'll get back into it.
I've beaten the Kahuna, and one more Totem.
So looks like my Nuzlocke might be close to the end.
Kiawe's Salazzle was really not a problem. Indeed one of the defining features of my run has been the fact that Herdier's Breakneck Blitz absolutely steamrolls anyone in it's path. In 99% of battles it's a OHKO and this was enabling me to cruise through to the 4th Totem, being Mallow's Lurantis.
Ho-Lee Shit.
I knew Torracat would be front and centre but the combination of some throughly punishing Solar Blades and Trumbeak's Pluck was really making things difficult. I lost Kadabra very early on and ended using Gyarados to Intimidate (knowing that his Flying sub-type meant he took neutral damage from Grass attacks) and Herdier to use Baby-Doll Eyes to try and stem the absolutely brutal punishment that my team was taking. Lurantis was at -2 attack but that Synthesis meant I couldn't do anything and Solar Blade was still denting me. Even the Breckneck Blitz wasn't enough to really tip the battle in my favour.
Then I lost Torracat to a critical Pluck and Cubone went very shortly afterwards as a sacrifice.
Herdier managed to get rid of Trumbeak, after which Castform came in to use Sunny Day all the fucking time. A Weather Ball from him then killed Herdier.
I then got into an almightly battle of attirition. My Gyarados had Intimidated again, so a -1 Castform and -3 Lurantis were not able to do much but then again I wasn't really doing much either. After burning through all the Synthesis we won, but it came at such a steep price that I'm properly burned out myself. I can safely say that was the most draining battle I've had so far.
I therefore have a team of;
Lvl 23. Gyarados
Lvl 22. Makuhita
Lvl 19. Growlithe (Box)
Lvl 18. Eevee (Box)
Lvl 17. Yungoos (Box)
I don't know. If I hadn't lost Herdier I could have seen me going on but having my team completely gutted (and missing out on a Parasect from the jungle because of a critical hit Take Down) means I've got little take on Olivia with, or I simply have to grind like hell to get there.
I might struggle on a little longer though, just to see if I can pull this one out of the bag.
You'll be fine. Scald on Gyarados and Makuhita is pretty close to evolving.
Edit: Diglett in the tunnel on the way to Olivia and you are sorted.
That's the battle that wiped out my first Nuzlocke attempt. In hindsight I should have carried on with PC Pokemon, but the thought of grinding them made me not want to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron
You should by now have a Water Stone and Thunder Stone (I can tell you where to get them if not) and the Fire Stone is in the next cave. That plus Umbreon, Espeon and Sylveon gives you 6 possible Eevelutions. Choose wisely.
You probably made a mistake going for Breakneck Blitz over Torracat's Z Move. I OHKOed it with that on my 2nd run, albeit I think I was around Level 30.
Where be the Thunder Stone? I'll have an Arcanine when I'm ready to evolve Growlithe and I have a Gyarados so while he won't be useful for Olivia, a Jolteon could be useful long term.
Caught a Zubat in the Diglett cave as well. Fan-fucking-tastic.
Near the Jungle where the grass totem was there's another entrance with a camper van thing in it. It's round the back of the Van. Route 8.
Olivia wasn't that bad just watch out for Sturdy.
This was wrong, I've beaten 2 Totems since then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning
Finally stuck it back on for the first time in a week.
So I'm on Ula'Ula island now.
I've still not been able to settle into a decent team simply because as soon as a Pokemon starts to get useful, he/she dies.
Olivia wasn't too difficult in all honesty although it showed me how outclassed Growlithe is and as a result I took the decision to use my Fire Stone on him. I would forgo Outrage and Flare Blitz, but in a few levels he'll learn Extremespeed so there's that at least.
So Jolteon died shortly after evolving and Phantump was eliminated by a Hariyama I underestimated. Finally while training up new Pokemon around Malie City, Muk killed Gumshoos which was annoying to say the least as he was starting to become something of a clutch Pokemon for me.
Current team;
Lvl 28. Arcanine
Lvl 28. Hariyama
Lvl 27. Gyarados
Lvl 27. Golbat
Lvl 27. Fearow
Lvl 26. Ariados
Now means the top two are by far the longest survivors, as they were both caught on Route 2. The bottom two are new as of about 10 minutes ago, with one being Route 10 and the other being Malie City Garden.
Seeing as the next trial is Electric type, I may struggle.
Also
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Just taken down the 3rd Big Kahuna Burger, which was tougher than expected with my high levels. I went for my starter as I didn't know his typing but he had a fair few Super Effective moves. Still, with a little help from a couple of others, we overcome with no deaths. Team stands as:
Incineroar- Level 48
Electivire- Level 46
Tsareena- Level 43
Araquanid- Level 42
Mudsdale- Level 42
Sylveon- Level 42
Holy Shit....
I'll put some Spoilers up in case people are trying to play blind like me, but it's not a story spoiler, just a death spoiler.
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In summary Electivire is gone which fucking hurts, but we move on.
Been playing a lot of Showdown recently - scarf Kartana, specs Tapu Lele & Mega Gyarados is a pretty powerful combo. Generally Gyarados & Tapu Lele will be the ones smashing holes in teams for Kartana to clean up, but I'm pretty sure I've swept entire teams with all three.
Currently still tweaking around a core of those three plus offensive Alolan Marowak, but currently rolling nature's madness Tapu Fini & AV Magnezone, which both do okay, but not enough to stop me wanting to find something better,
I've grinded up my Charjabug 3 levels and I'm already bored. Only at least another 10 to go...
My other alternative is Alolan Golem. On the one hand, it would be good to have a Rock type to take some Take Downs/Hyper Fangs/Those type of powerful moves.... on the other hand.... So many weaknesses.
Tough call to make really. My enthusiasm is zapped big time.
Fuck sake.
Gyarados against Alolan Geodude. Easy experience to take Gyarados up a level and what do I get?
A fucking thunder punch in the face.
Time to see what new boy Minior can do.
Minior used Self Destruct. Minior fainted. There goes my catch for that route.
Turns out Minior can't do shit.
Rather I was unlucky that when switching out, Metang chose to use Pursuit which meant Minior is probably the quickest death I've had thus far.
The Electric Totem was no joke either, I was able to talk most hits with Arcanine but it required a sacrifice and poor Ariados was the chosen offering. After a couple of Intimidates and an Inferno Overdrive, we made our way back to Malie City to face Guzma for the first time.
Okay so Golisopod must be the most intimidating Pokemon ever, Bug/Water is the worst type for me to face as well. Razor Shell started to cut through my team. Fearow and Golbat struggled and there's no way I was using my new Pokemon (taken from the box) Nosepass due to him being Lvl 21.
Hariyama was able to tank a few hits and push back but unfortunately then died to a critical hit Razor Shell. Arcanine forced him out and then killed Ariados before using Inferno Blitz and Take Downs to just about beat him. Yet again, Arcanine saves the day.
So into Route 12 where I caught a Torkoal (because a Fire type is really what I need right now) and then Route 13 I caught a Magikarp.
Gyarados is back baby!
Or will be in 9 levels.
Lvl. 31 Arcanine
Lvl. 30 Golbat
Lvl. 29 Fearow
Lvl. 28. Torkoal
Lvl. 25. Nosepass
Lvl. 11. Magikarp
So where I am there's a desert and village nearby but also a Ghost trial. And I really don't have anything good against Ghosts except for the Dark type moves on Fearow and Arcanine.
Lord help me.
I can see there's a good chance to get some decent Pokemon in the Desert and Village.
Here's hoping for an Alolan Vulpix and Sandile.
You'll find shadow ball before the ghost trial.
Well I didn't find Shadow Ball as it stands and I went in with a couple of fresh new recruits being Alolan Raticate and Alolan Vulpix.
Then the trial tore my team apart. I figured Vulpix was a no go due to its unevolved state and I was leading off with Raticate, who promptly died to a Play Rough.
After that the ally Hunter wreaked havoc just by using Hypnosis to stop any sort of momentum from being built while Mimikyu inflicted chip damage effectively.
Torkoal did some good work, burning Mimikyu and killing Haunter, which just brought out Gengar and it's fucking Shadow Ball.
I'll have nightmares about that Shadow Ball. Mimikyu was dead at this point but Gengar tore through what was left of my team. Arcanine died after being unable to keep up with the Shadow Ball which was just reducing Special Defense constantly. My clutch'mon, dead.
It was devastating frankly, and I thought I was getting wiped in all honesty. I wanted to try and struggle through however.
Gyarados stood no chance naturally.
So it was all down to Golbat, who I found could actually resist Shadow Ball to some degree. I simply waited and burned out the Shadow Ball PP before finishing things off.
Golbat evolved as well, which was nice.
So team torn apart, was time to rebuild again. I wanted to level up in the Megamart and I caught a Finneon on Route 14 to help, as well as finally getting some luck and catching a Mimikyu in the Megamart!
I'LL MAKE YOU SUFFER YOU ARCANINE KILLING COCKMONGREL.
Ahem.
So team is currently;
Lvl. 33 Crobat
Lvl. 30 Finneon
Lvl. 30 Mimikyu
Lvl. 30 Vulpix
Lvl. 29 Nosepass
Oh and Fearow died while grinding in the Megamart, because let's shit on my day some more.
I'll probably want my 'mons to be Level 36-38 before going on.
Byron :(
That's a lot of team to lose, although Mimikyu is well worth a spot on the team, and Ninetales could be handy, especially if you can get it to learn Aurora Veil (essentially Reflect & Light Screen packaged generously into one move). Probopass is a pretty solid tank, although I don't think you can evolve it until near the end of the game, so chuck an eviolite on it when you can & it should be able to take a few hits for you.
Who would have thought we'd one day live in a world where Leech Life made X Scissor completely redundant?
Byron though :( That's really shit. Nuzlocke is a real cunt sometimes. I've still not recovered from the loss of Electivire.
The whole time I grinded in that place I didn't see 1 Mimikyu.
Wow that is brutal. Unlucky. Can't help but think a bit of grinding would have helped though especially with the amount of exp being thrown at you by the Raticates and other things on the routes nearby.
My team is pretty settled now. We dispatched the electric totem with ease using Dugtrio's Rock Tomb and the Team Skull boss wasn't too much of a problem once his 'mon wimped out having set up 2 sword dances. Added a Morelull and Electabuzz to the PC, so if disaster strikes I'm covered.
Christmas costumes coming to Go. :cab:
Yeah to be honest I probably was a little underlevelled and relying a Raticate and Arcanine to pull me through.
However, I have done some serious grinding and now have the following team;
Lvl 41. Crobat - Cross Poison, Leech Life, Confuse Ray, Air Cutter
Lvl 38. Vulpix - Extrasesory, Feint Attack, Ice Beam, He,
Lvl 36. Lumineon - Gust, Water Pulse, Scald, Aqua Ring
Lvl 35. Nosepass - Thunder Wave, Spark, Rock Blast, Power Gem
Lvl 35. Mimikyu - Psychic, Feint Attack, Shadow Claw, Charge Beam
Lvl 32. Cottonee - Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Charm, Poison Powder.
Come on you Team Skull fucks, bring it on.
Struggling to get into this, it's just too cumbersome. All I want to do is catch Pokemon, battle trainers and get badges. I don't want to spend half an hour talking to some bint, a suspiciously Asian Hawaiian and a topless bloke. Fuck haircuts and clothes as well. Just let me crack on.
Just press a. Get through the first hour as quick as you can, it does open up a lot more afterwards with the odd "fuck off and leave me alone" moments.
There's no badges in this version by the way Spikey.
I know. I've not started the 'tasks' bit yet (Or have I? I fought Team Chav then battled the Sailor I saved. Didn't read what he was saying though).
I'll reserve judgement on that score.
You can all pick up a Magearna when you beat the game, by the way. Serebii have the QR code up on their site, and scanning it puts a delivery man out for you to pick it up from.
I've also found a website that has QR codes for every pokemon in the dex, plus loads of shiny forms, although I don't really understand what I'm meant to do with that :D
Lost Toucannon to a pair of Tentacools. Was trying to catch one and was killing off the other, but every time I killed one another would spawn. At the same time the other one was using Acid Spray to lower my S.Defense and Wrap to keep me from switching. Finally one of them used Bubblebeam to leave Toucannon on 3HP which got removed by the ongoing Wrap. Boo. At least now I have a slot in the team for a Morelull which has since evolved into Shiinotic.
So the run is over unfortunately.
Without spoiling too much there is a particular area between Ula'Ula and Poni islands which is a bit of a slog.
I lost Raticate very early on and I realised that I would be relying very heavily on Crobat here. We struggled through, although Mimikyu died when I got cocky and thought it could tank a Psychic move from Bruxish.
We then had to face a certain boss with a certain Bug/Water type and this put some immense pressure on, leading to me sacrificing Nosepass to give me time to heal Crobat.
This meant we ended up facing the boss with Crobat, Ninetales and Lumineon. It started off alright, Crobat got rid of Clefairy and Bewear but started to suffer heavily as a result. I kind of knew where this was going.
As a result Mismagius downed Crobat and after getting rid of her, Ninetales was able to put Lilligant down. Which just left Milotic.
I hate Milotic. It's very tanky and unless you have super effective moves, you'll struggle. I had a decent start as Lumineon's Storm Drain absorbed the Hydro Pump but as I wore it down l, Flail got more and more powerful. In the end Lumineon couldn't quite manage it and a weakened Ninetales couldn't last long against Flail and Hydro Pump.
So a full wipe before the 4th island. It's weird, I gave myself more mercy rules than most runs but this felt like a Nuzlocke. It was brutal and I had to rebuild my team twice already. I had 27 deaths believe it or not and I'll be ready for the next run when I get Pokemon Moon. At least I won't be playing this one blind again.
So time to finish the game anyway. I'll drag some old favorites from the box and probably go with a team of;
Crobat
Arcanine
Ninetales
Mimikyu
Gyarados
Herdier
Ouch, that's brutal. Didn't you have a 2nd Gyarados you were working towards? Would that have fared better against Milotic?
On the other hand part of me wants to start again. Decisions, decisions.
Died to a Geodude Thunder Punch if I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by P_3
What do we think lads. Start again or not?
Completely up to you. Can you sit through the introduction again? I probably couldn't.
Do it. I did, albeit earlier, but I don't regret it.
Starting again would allow you to be more prepared for what's to come, whilst still having a blind run after you caught up to the first run.
It makes more sense to me the more I think about it.
Yeah I think I'll start again. I've always been more resilient to the tedium that is introductions and it'll allow me to post my thoughts on the actual story as well because it's very much a case of 1 step forward, 3/4 of a step back.
Yeah, that fight Byron whited out on is brutal. Bearing in mind she has five Pokemon, all of my Pokemon were on yellow and red health at the end of the fight. I lost Dugtrio to Golisopod in the previous fight so only had five usable Pokes but I just about managed it in the end. The team which moves on to the fourth island is:
Shiinotic - 47
Stoutland - 45
Gyarados - 44
Salazzle - 43
Charjabug - 42
Klefki - 31 (place holder for absolutely anything else)
I've just looked over my battle write ups I posted to the people I'm also Nuzlocking with (or were, until they all failed and continued as normal, so now I'm the only one still playing through). That fight wasn't too rough for me. Mudsdale easily saw off Clefable thanks to having a Steel move, Incineroar burnt through Lilligant, Tsareena took down Milotic and Sylveon eased past Mismagius. The problem was the last one, Bewear or whatever he's called. That missed take down that would have killed Sylveon was huge for me. Had he hit it he'd have died to the recoil so I would have got through, but losing Sylveon would have been a massive blow.
Planning to pick this up again tomorrow, I tend to take breaks whenever I go back to work. Pretty much decided on Charjabug to come back and replace Electivire. It sucks that that gives me 2 Bug Types in the team, but oh well.
Just lost Gyarados to a wild Raticate getting a critical hit with Double Edge. Slowpoke replaces it and Aerodactyl comes in for Klefki.
EDIT: Aerodactyl lost now too. This is going to be fun...
Picked up Exeggutor and lost Slowbro to Mudsdale's Z-move thing. Pelipper comes in as a Water type until I can find something better, probably Gyarados. Team moving through the Vast Poni Canyon is:
Vikavolt - 52
Shiinotic - 52
Salazzle - 52
Stoutland - 51
Pelipper - 47
Exeggutor - 44
Finally picked it up again and remembered why I stopped.... grinding Charjabug is so lame. But we will get through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning
Just taken a look at my other back ups... it's a who's who of shit Pokemon:
Trumbeak 21, Fletchinder 26, Wingull 23, Haunter 31 (could be traded for Alolan Golem), Diglett 11, Smeargle 13, Skarmory 27, Aerodactyl 40, Pancham 26, Luvdisk 12, Caterpie 15, Psyduck 15, Raticate 24, Ledian 33, Slowpoke 31, Snorunt 29, Magikarp 10 and 30, Gumshoos 32 and Granbull 42...
Jesus Christ, all that grinding was almost for nothing.
Having got Charjabug to level 42 I was bored so I carried on. The first trainer I come up against had a Garbodor which proved troublesome, Incineroar took it out but was left weak and pretty much unusable. She then brings in Toxapex or whatever it's called. From the name I deduced it was poison and it looked like Water.... which would rule out Sylveon, Tsareena or Mudsdale getting involved. I sent in my Spider thing who was left on 12HP by it's Z-Move. He had to come out or I'd lose him so I switched to Charjabug and he used Protect which was lucky. The luck continued when Spark Paralysed him but after a few turns I was in a position where I could not kill him and one shot would kill me. My allowed heal was used but as Charjabug was, I guess, the Pokemon I'd choose to lose if I had to, I didn't switch. My gut instinct told me the cunt was going to move this turn, but not next turn. Banking everything on it I used Dig. He moved and missed. I came up and did a little damage, enough to put him in range for Spark to kill. He didn't move. :D Boom!
Back to the grind I think.....