Imagine actually voting Conservative. Absolute crackheads.
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Imagine actually voting Conservative. Absolute crackheads.
I've always doubted the balls about previous Tory setups being in hoc to 'their rich friends', but the Truss incarnation seems like they are. I can't explain these tax cuts otherwise.
Even the ones that benefit the less wealthy in society don't seem to make any sense in conjunction with what the Bank of England are doing. They're putting interest rates up so we spend less and keep inflation at bay (I mean, lol, but anyway) at the same time the Tories are giving everyone more money to spend.
Anyone have any explanation for that?
Dribble down spacanomics.
I think they're just gonna go nuts on the tax cuts for now because they know they probably aren't going to last that much longer in government.
What Boydy said. Pour a load of money into the economy and it'll look like you're managing to save the sinking ship for a year before you get fucked off and can safely blame the carnage and everything on Labour.
I think I heard that top rate tax benefited 600,000 individuals to the tune of an average £10,000 each. If that doesn't solve the cost of living crisis for the fat crackheads of Northern industrial towns, I don't know what will.
Indeed. Removing the top rate of tax is genuinely offensive.
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Originally Posted by Boydy
I might try a career change, to butler. At least then I'll literally be able to get the crumbs from the table.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Jim, lad, have some shame.
What's your butler going to do then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Spent my morning 360 metres underground sweating my nuts off. Come back up to see this shite. Might go back down.
Utterly mental. At least they're being up front about helping their rich mates and not trying to justify it with mental gymnastics like previous incarnations.
There's got to be an easier side hustle than being a coal miner, Ben.
It's all a bit pointless without lots of other structural reforms, so hopefully that starts to follow.
Has anyone worked for a think tank?
It's Lewis you want for this kind of Toryism. I'm more of a Ken Clarke/Rory Stewart wet tosser. I'm 'tax cuts, yeah, but some other time'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
My two year fix ends August 2023. Great.
Same. :cool:
We're absolutely fucked.
I’ll never understand how it all works, but for the vast majority do things ever get as good or as bad as the story sellers say?
Congratulations if you’re in the top 1% of earners. If you earn a million pounds a year you are now £54,400 better off.
Don’t worry if you earn around £25k, you’ll be around a massive £280 better off.
What's enver factored in though is what a person has done to get to the stage the either earn 25k or 1m.
“Worked harder for it” is rarely the answer though.
From what I've ever seen here, people making fuck all have never done a single thing in their lives to not make fuck all. I couldn't see it being that drastically different there.
People settle into their ruts, for sure.
Larry Summers, famously a man to listen to when it comes to economic policies. Oh wait . . .
How does one break through when they’re already working 60 hour weeks just to keep up with rent? It’s not always the fault of the person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I know it's not that straightforward in every case, but what real effort have they ever made to not work 60 hour weeks to keep up with the rent?
Actually I sound like Jimmy when I read back, but you know what I mean. Everyone can't cry hardship when they're just happy to ease into hardship and cry.
You still sound like Jimmy (not that I've ever heard this line if thinking from him tbf).
People are out there being Teachers and Nurses and still find themselves needing food banks to scrape buy. When people working some of the most important jobs going can't afford to eat, there's a problem and it ain't them.
That's most likely where I'm falling down. When I see 25k I'm not thinking of the nurses and teachers, I'm thinking of the shelf stackers and factory operatives (mot likely imports).Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
What the fuck are you on about you dirty leprechaun?
Just shooting the breeze you sweaty raghead child trafficker. You?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Yeah I fucking hate those scummy shelf stackers.
Not as much as they hate themselves I'd say.
What if they all pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, and became investment bankers? Who would stack the shelves then?
The conservatives are so bad that Jim reads like a 2008 Boydy and yet they’ll remain in power forever due to Scottish Nationalism. It’s incredible. I don’t agree with it but I’d give them Scotland just to save England.
Orphans. Like the good old days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Jim posting like this when he's guaranteed to go and vote Tory again next time is nauseating.
I wouldn't be so sure. I can see him and those with similar views voting elsewhere. If the Tories continue with this sort of policies, they won't be winning at the next election even with the useless Keir Starmer in charge at Labour.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
People don't vote tory because policies, they vote because they want to feel part of the club.
People vote Tory because they are content with their lives and don't want Labour fucking it up. This is the natural state of things. Labour only win elections when they manage to convince lots of contented people that they won't fuck it up (Blair, Wilson the only leaders to accomplish this since 1950).
With no such person on the horizon for Labour at the moment, the danger for the Tories is that they run out of contented people, which they will do in about 5-10 years once the current renting classes in their 30s are still renting in their 40s, having to look after both kids and also their dribbling, yet home-owning boomer parents. Then they'll be back once the boomers are all dead and the next gen has inherited.
'I will not be voting Conservative again...'
*cheers*
'Because I am a racist.'
*CHEERS*
Considering the state of interest rate increases at the moment, there will be home owners losing their homes and returning to renting soon enough. I haven't looked at how much mine would go up, but Martin Lewis reckons the average 2 year fixed term ending today, would cost an extra £200 per month if fixed for another 2 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Interest rates should have started clicking up ten years ago, so anyone who has over-borrowed on the assumption that they never would is a bit of a tit.
If it hits 5% next year mine will be an extra £500+ a month if fixed again. Which I can afford if I have a job, but who the hell knows whether I will by then and a shit tonne of people won't be able to regardless, which in turn will lead to a house price crash which fucks a shit tonne more people.
We need to sort the Ukraine situation out sharpish, everything else is either frigging round the edges or (on the basis of today) insanity.
That'll be millions of people, who to be fair to them, had little choice given where house prices are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis