"Batter down the hatches". Jesus Christ, Pleb.
It's almost as bad as peddle stool.
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"Batter down the hatches". Jesus Christ, Pleb.
It's almost as bad as peddle stool.
Nailed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Lads I'm really pissed but I think we're gonna win the world cup.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36851259
Amazing.Quote:
He took them on day trips to places such as the Lake District, where the players had races sitting on toilets to see who could go round the field quickest.
Welcome to John desperately trying to prove something somebody said was wrong and failing miserably. Total freak.Quote:
Originally Posted by mokbull
You've taken my concern for your welfare well, Magic.
He's successfully managed players with talent and reputation before is the point. Djorkaeff coming into line under him having won international honours one year previously is just the most obvious example.
Fucking hate the geezer, but they had to go for him at this point and I think he'll do a decent job. We need to stop trying to copy other countries and just get on with what we've got, and he's probably about as good as it gets in that respect.
Not sure about this, though:
What a cunt!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Shattered they didn't go for Klinsmann.
Seriously though, I think Allardyce is the best candidate by miles. I'm mostly surprised that the FA actually seem to have made the right decision for once.
England will still fail miserably of course, because England.
I wonder what the political breakdown would be for those who were 'in favor' versus 'against' the Allardyce appointment...
Me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by elth
If his players : overachievement ratio stays the same, I guess that means quarter final in the World Cup (32 teams). Which isn't great but it'll probably be more watchable because he'll have done things right.
We will once again go out to the first decent team we face which is what should have happened if Woy hadn't bottled it and shoehorned in four players who'd barely played during the qualifiers. This guy barely got Sundeland past the post against one of the most embarrassing Newcastle sides of all time and for all his 'upsets against the big boys' most of them are draws against disinterested teams.
He's the best choice of a frankly god awful bunch.
Confirmed. Sweet!
:D Chuffed for him.
Phil Brown's thoughts: https://www.theguardian.com/football...ger-phil-brown
Nonsense. He did a great job in his small time here, make no mistake. He's not the best of a bad bunch, he's just good.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
The guy had 30 games and still nearly got relegated by a team run by an absolute clown with players that didn't give two shits for the majority of the season.
"Cup semi final? Sorry, lads. Concentrate on league matters."
Wasn't it widely accepted that Sunderland was a basket case full of over-paid shite who didn't care? I definitely remember lolling at Scouse when he was trying to argue that they had a mid-table squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Arsenal fan in hating Big Sam shocker.
Allardyce is a perfectly good manager. The question is whether he can cope with the PRESSURE when there's a shit performance or result, given he comes from an environment where he's mates with the media and gets away with shit on the basis that 'Big Sam, mate'.
He hasn't had to face Ian Wright's indignation when English beans on toast grit doesn't get them over the line and the media were already hypothesising on the team for the next game.
That's the big change for him. However, he's clearly the best of a poor batch if you want an English manager.
The absolute key is whether or not he accepts mediocrity and follows the established order of things, picking players that are unfit or out of form just because they're the big names, for example.
If he doesn't he has a chance, if he does he'll definitely be gone by July 2018.
I don't agree with any of this, he just needs to not do the things that we can all see are majorly retarded to give himself a chance. After that the media noise becomes just that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GS
We'll know pretty soon if he's up to it or not.
I don't disagree that it'll be a good indicator, but the question of whether or not he'll survive isn't based on that. It'll come down to whether his teams play shit football and achieve shit results.
For that reason, I think you underestimate the sense of entitlement that exists in the media when England are playing.
Not picking Wilshere when he's not fit or Rooney when he's just shit would be a very good start, but whatever he does the media, particularly pundits, are going to want performances and results. That's when the pressure kicks in, and his 'but Big Sam' shield doesn't work anymore. You could see 'nice guy Roy Hodgson' getting snarky as fuck when he was challenged on things where he'd previously have been given a free pass at a Fulham or a West Brom.
In my lifetime I don't think there's ever been a better time for a manager like Allardyce. We don't have any players like peak Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Beckham, Rooney, Owen and so on. Our current players are not that different from the sides he has managed (and worse than some).
Not that I think he wouldn't have a chance with our best teams of the past, but it will not be such a step into the unknown as it would have been ten or twelve years ago.
I'll be proven right this season and then watch the back tracking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Phonics is probably best ignoring in this instance. He's way off.
He'll do the 'right' things, I'm confident of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
So is it a mid table squad that he under performed with or a shit squad that he did great with? It can't be both.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScousePig
He only arrived in October and his points tally extrapolated over the season would have given us 44/45 points. This also means (of course) that he couldn't strengthen us until January (mid way through the season), which he did significantly. The second half of the season ie January onwards would have seen us accumulate 51 points over the course of the season, enough for 8th.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Happy to help.
Quoting it. There are so many different pressures and variables that come with international management. The squad's rarely static, although his cup record actually seems good. League Cup finals with Bolton, Semis with Bolton, Bkackburn and West Ham. I think his biggest problem is the mentality amongst the players. None of them felt like leaders in France so there was no forward momentum. And the job will come with more scrutiny so, if he gets bung-ho again, he'll be out on his arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScousePig
Then there's the FA. They expected a semi-final in France. Sam might show improvement in the squad and a bright future but, if he doesn't hit an arbitrary mark like that in two years, he could get punted. Plus Joe Public's unwillingness to accept him, etc.
Fatman remains as captain, so signs are not good. Hopefully he's some European style totetmic/club captain rather than the first name on the team sheet. If he starts in midfield . . .
It's strange. I went through a spell where I wasn't happy with any of our managerial appointments, and now for the last three or so I've been very happy: Poyet was a breath of fresh air to what preceeded him but he couldn't maintain it; Advocaat worked wonders but then tailed off after he decided to stay, and Sam did pretty great and then went on to bigger things. It think profile wise Moyes is the biggest we've had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
As for Allardyce, I'm confident he'll get the best out of the England lot. Whatever that is. Most on here seem to agree.
Just seen this. It's the biggest falsehood of all time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahow
Sams record v Arsenal:
Played 30
Won 4
Lost 19
Drew 7
I don't hate Big Sam. As I said, he's the best of a bad bunch. But we have to be honest with ourselves and say it's a very, very, very bad bunch.
Arsenal fans have to stick up for the concept of Beautiful Football, or basically admit that the last decade of their lives has been time wasted.
ITT: A lot of people projecting their own inadequacies on Arsenal fans.
Just wanna say that this is the best English manager for the last 30 years ( random number before anyone starts making a thing about this) , even in front of Sven.
If you're going to pick a random number, don't pick one that's incorrect. 30 years includes Glenn Hoddle, Terry Venables and Sir Bobby Robson.
Google "random"...
Anywho besides Bobby robs, I would be correct.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/...came-to-be-br/
Great article. Worth reading the whole thing and it's hard to deny its conclusion.
I'd agree with that whole heartedly. Own case is more in line with the Liverpool aspect. I'm from the Black Country and then anything involving England is second. Hell, the national team is just a decent excuse for piss up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
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Fucking yes. :cool:
Sam :drool:
I like to think he smashed three quarter pounders in the car park.
Only three?
"Sorry, lads. No transfer news today..."
Doing his bit too keep the sponsors happy. Top top man.
If he doesn't have a secret menu item dedicated to him, then he should.
A Big Sam please.
McDonald's sponsor England?
They sponsor the FA I think.
Really? That's a strange link but I guess money talks.
http://imgur.com/N5FzlNz.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Angelsaint