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Tesla is one of their clients and the boss's wife (who also "works" there) has mentioned hanging out with Musk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
They also announced that everyone would get a day off for President's Day not long after the election. I wonder how they voted. :rosebud:
We don't have the money to fix the squad this year. Ultimately it just highlights how close to the wire we are to going bust because of the glazers. That's the real story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke Emia
Sure. But you don’t have the 16th worst team in the league either.
If you cut 8 out of 9 of Uniteds top earners the team would not get any worse in terms of quality and would cost 85 million pound a year less.
If you don't give a manager you know is rubbish a new contract and hire a director of football that you sack 3 months later you save yourself 20 million.
By shaving off bullshit so the plebs know what they're worth, you've decreased your yearly loss from 113 million to maybe 105 and massively decreased morale across the entire workforce and increased negative PR which will hurt future sponsorship opportunities.
Or instead you could have a fucking clue about running a football club and your yearly loss would have been 8 million despite having your worst season since 1973.
You believing that climate change is a hoax designed to extract money from people whilst also fawning over the Cybertruck is properly special.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I suppose the real question is is Sr' Jim worse than the Glazers?
Everything is either side of a line for you isn't it you absolute headcase? They look cool, lots of cars do, lots of other ones dont, regardless of what's under the bonnet.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
No. At least Brexit Jim wants to do things like build a new stadium, whilst the Glazers were perfectly happy letting Old Trafford fall into disrepair. Literally all they cared about was extracting as much money from the club as they could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I think people underestimate quite how bad a position all the years of Glazer ownership have put us in.
The road back to being a properly run and successful football club is going to be long and painful. That's not to say I agree with all of what they're doing.
I'm sure the Qataris could've come in and solved a lot of problems with their infinite cheque book, but I'm still glad we're not owned by them. As we've established and all agreed upon in the other thread, all billionaires are inherently bastards, but there's levels to it and Jim's about 20 below Qatar.
They look shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
All of that is true. BUT, they’ve made some terrible decisions already whilst they have been in charge and this is after they’ve supposedly learnt lessons from when they went into Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
My working hypothesis on the Glazers is that it doesn't matter what anyone else does, Man Utd fans would never even rank Satan below them.
And I get that they were bad and Sir Jim inherited a shit show, but is there a single thing he's not done disastrously wrong, or even done right, so far? At 39% of the workforce, his cutting is presumably outstripping DOGE at the minute.
OK, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
No, he wants me to build him a new stadium so he can extract money from the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Is this you not being able to read and thinking they've asked the government for money for the stadium when they haven't?Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
In terms of talent, I'd probably have Manchester Red down in 14th/15th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luke Emia
Of course, anybody would, because they're all playing like cunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
...with undertones of homosexuality.Quote:
Originally Posted by igor_balis
1) Stop talking to everyone like you're the smarest person in the fucking room and no-ones had a thought that you haven't defeated with logic and reason. It's both obnoxious and untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
What it calls for is a massive amount of public investment that fundamentally improves the value of the stadium while laying zero of the risk on them, the sporting side of project can quite literally not succeed without the public investment in the non sporting side. The current plans for the 100k stadium seems to call for infrastructure investments of between 2 and 4.5 billion pounds with the claim that this investment will then make the public 7.5 billion pounds a year once completed.
a) If that infrastructure goes over budget as it obviously will, will United kick in? Not a chance.
b) Will it make 7.5 billion pounds a year once completed. No.
Big respect for Phonics starting his post with point 1) and never moving onto point 2). I like it.
Imagine working for RL. Just a fat JD pretending to be Dr Cox.
So you knew they haven't asked for money for the stadium, but just said it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Why do you think the government would have any interest investing in the surrounding infrastructure if they thought it would purely benefit Jim Ratcliffe and Manchester United football club? I equally feel like the projections of the money it'll bring are fanciful but then what do I fucking know? The government could very easily have just said no.
Piroe. :drool:
Incredible. Horrific start as well. Champions.
Mr. Elon Musk and Donald Trump are taking over the world is asking me 'Why would the government invest in something that would largely benefit a man so already rich and powerful he was able to turn his political donations into a knighthood'Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
But it's everyone else thats thick as mince. Just say 'I support the idea so I don't care" like Republicans do. It's fine. Don't try pretend it's in my public interest though.
I don't know if I particularly do support it. Certainly seems there's more pressing things for the country to spend money on. But as I said, what do I know about how much infrastructure regeneration brings in.
So now you've rowed back can you now reflect on your attitude on how you talk to people considering you've gone from 'you don't know how to read' to 'I'm no expert on infrastructure regeneration'?
It's just rude and obnoxious.
I've not rowed back on anything. Your original post remains wrong. It was just wilfully wrong rather than ignorant.
:cool:
The spirit of TTH.
Credit where credit's due, Phonics has nailed that.
I try to be reasonable and you reply with that. Fucking hell, I thought better of you but you're just a twat.Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Editing this a third time to italicise twat :DQuote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Fair play that's pretty funny.
And I knew nothing of this stadium deal, but if it hinges on billions of infrastructure investment that Sr'Jim isn't fronting then the man has played a blinder. Ride the storm with whatever Portuguese or German manager is flavour of the month then sell up when the stadium's done. ???? not needed. We'll go straight to profit.
Substance and style while you struggle with either.
Let's not get too excited.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
The rest of TTH when RL posts photos of his latest 350 quid tasting menu while complaining about how poorly him and his peers are treated:Quote:
Originally Posted by randomlegend
Never seen one Mr Green bring a man such joy.
It seems that there are also "additional members sales" for each match about 5 days before the match -- I guess re-selling tickets that people have returned or something. Like so:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
https://imgur.com/qbjOXFY.jpg
So that's why I was asking about the membership. I'll give it a pop but not expecting anything. Cheers all for the advice. :thbup:
It's hard to see otherwise. We don't have a goalscorer, the goalie has the worst technique ever seen at the top level and we have zero fitness or pace. There are a few good players in there but the general make up of the squad is woeful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manc
Re super Jim and his infrastructure money. It does make sense to ask for funds to support overall Manchester regeneration, why wouldn't you? You don't make the big money from paying for it yourself.
When you consider a stadium expansion for us (for a mere 6000 seats) is billed at £1.3bn, you'd take money from all sources.
Sir Jim clearly went in there with the sole intention of getting the government to pay for a rebuild, he was whining about it from day one.
Cost-obsessed, grifting, gives capitalists a bad name. Not like Ed Woodward. That man was all about opportunity.
How they've got to this after basically having a licence to print money at one stage.
Ya wot :cab:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Leveraged buy outs is your answer.
Yeah, I don't understand it either. £1bn's been banded about but I'm not sure how that figure comes from expanding the two shorter stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
At £70 quid a ticket, an extra 6,000 seats generates £420k a game, or £8m a year. That's a 125yr payback (ignoring other merch sales).... that just can't be feasible in any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c4g037jl80ko
:DQuote:
In a statement, Galatasaray said: "Since the commencement of his managerial duties in Turkey, Fenerbahce manager Jose Mourinho has persistently issued derogatory statements directed towards the Turkish people. Today, his discourse has escalated beyond merely immoral comments into unequivocally inhumane rhetoric.
"We hereby formally declare our intention to initiate criminal proceedings concerning the racist statements made by Jose Mourinho, and shall accordingly submit official complaints to Uefa and Fifa.
"Furthermore, we shall diligently observe the stance adopted by Fenerbahce - an institution professing to uphold 'exemplary moral values' - in response to the reprehensible conduct exhibited by their manager."
Alongside stuff like the regular chimp outs Real Madrid are chucking [Golden Ball, the great VAR conspiracy, Bellingham being sent off for telling a ref to fuck off] it does feel like football is in danger of fully disappearing up its own very serious business backside.
Football reflects society, which is a great archipelago of self-absorbtion.
We seem to be glossing over the most egregious part of this thread. Giggles thinking the Cyber truck looks cool.
Just no standards with Maresca. How he can keep watching Gusto and Nkunku toss up shite after shite and reward them every time I don’t know. Absolutely hates the academy.
If we don't win this then it's official, it's all over for us. 12th place beckons.