Trivia Thread

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Originally Posted by thommo

Correct, won the title in 1967-68. The other side won it the year before, and now play in the third tier of Germany. Wasn't too long ago they did have a season in the Bundesliga though.

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Rostock?

They're not Rot Weiss Essen. Someone's said Hansa Rostock (quick fire Luca) :D , haven't they? Paderborn. Augsburg?

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Originally Posted by bruhnaldo

I just like the name "Carl Zeiss Jena" from FUT so let me just throw that in there

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Big fan of pro/semi-pro factory sides, perhaps due to the Arsenal’s history as one. The Isthmian/NPL and their feeder leagues used to have a fair few - particularly enjoyed looking out for Cray Valley Paper Mills and Atherton Colleries in the FA Cup qualifiers.

Sorry guys, neglected this over the weekend. Unfortunately it was none of the teams mentioned, the German side left was Eintracht Braunschweig. The two French sides were Olympique Lillois and Roubaix-Tourcoing, who won it in the 30s and 40s. Full list:

England

Sheffield United - 1897-98
West Bromwich Albion - 1919-20
Ipswich Town - 1961-62
Nottingham Forest - 1977-78
Leicester City - 2015-16

France

Olympique Lillois - 1932-33
RCF Paris - 1935-36
Roubaix-Tourcoing - 1946-47
Strasbourg - 1978-79
Auxerre - 1995-96
Lens - 1997-98
Montpellier - 2011-12

Germany

1860 Munich - 1965-66
Eintracht Braunschweig - 1966-67
FC Nürnberg - 1967-68
Wolfsburg - 2008-09

Italy

Cagliari - 1969-70
Hellas Verona - 1984-85
Sampdoria - 1990-91

Spain

Real Betis - 1934-35
Sevilla - 1945-46
Deportivo La Coruna - 1999-2000

In the post-war era, there have been 51 players to have been capped by England whilst not playing the First Division/Premier League. Can you name them all?

Steve Bull
Owen Hargreaves
Jadon Sancho

Is this just their first cap, or could they have been capped in First Division/Premier League and then moved overseas, and then still capped while playing in another league?

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Steve Bull
Owen Hargreaves
Jadon Sancho

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Is this just their first cap, or could they have been capped in First Division/Premier League and then moved overseas, and then still capped while playing in another league?

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It's for any caps earned in their career.

Beckham
Owen
Woodgate
Mcmanaman

Trippier
Linekar
Platt
Gazza

Paul Ince
Joe Cole

Jack Butland

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Beckham
Owen
Woodgate
Mcmanaman

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Trippier
Linekar
Platt
Gazza

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Paul Ince
Joe Cole

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Jack Butland

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Beckham earned the most away from the top division of England with 55 caps.

Keegan
Des Walker

Wasnt there quite a few players who went over to Italy during the 80s and 90s. A few more names I can think of. Not even sure if there were english

Ray Winstone
Ray Wilkins
Razor Rudduck
John Collins
A black man who commentates serie a games

Hargreaves
Bothroyd
Nugent


Sincere, are you taking about Paul Elliott?

Edit; I have just noticed the other names ffs :D

Ray Winstone :D

Laurie Cunningham
Alan Thompson

Im just guessing lads.

Matt Le Tissier

Hoddle
Waddle
Cowans
Woods
Butcher
Steven
Stevens

Terry Butcher
Jimmy Greaves
Bob Hoskins

OK ive googled my names. My fault :lol:

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Im just guessing lads.

Matt LeBlanc

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Corrected.

Jason Statham
Barry McGuigan
David Coulthard

Did Joe Hart get capped while at Torino? Do loans count?

Trevor Francis
Clive Allen

Kevin Phillips
Michael Gray
Gavin McCann

Oh! Wasn’t there a whole thing about Zaha being capped while still in the Championship for Palace (before he switched nationalities).

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Keegan
Des Walker

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Wasnt there quite a few players who went over to Italy during the 80s and 90s. A few more names I can think of. Not even sure if there were english

Ray Winstone
Ray Wilkins
Razor Rudduck
John Collins
A black man who commentates serie a games

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:D

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Originally Posted by Danny

Hargreaves
Bothroyd
Nugent

Sincere, are you taking about Paul Elliott?

Edit; I have just noticed the other names ffs :D

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Originally Posted by Mellberg

Ray Winstone :D

Laurie Cunningham
Alan Thompson

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Bothroyd and Nugent, what a time that was.

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Originally Posted by Danny

Hoddle
Waddle
Cowans
Woods
Butcher
Steven
Stevens

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Originally Posted by Max Power

Terry Butcher
Jimmy Greaves
Bob Hoskins

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Jason Statham
Barry McGuigan
David Coulthard

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:D

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Originally Posted by Luca

Did Joe Hart get capped while at Torino? Do loans count?

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He wasn't on my original list, but you're right - 8 caps that season. Takes it to a round 50 players.

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Originally Posted by Danny

Trevor Francis
Clive Allen

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Originally Posted by Dave.

Kevin Phillips
Michael Gray
Gavin McCann

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Originally Posted by Luca

Oh! Wasn’t there a whole thing about Zaha being capped while still in the Championship for Palace (before he switched nationalities).

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Good shout on Zaha, thought that one might fly under the radar.

Didn’t Rooney get a token one while at DC?

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Originally Posted by Danny

Didn’t Rooney get a token one while at DC?

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Kevin Keegan – 25 caps – 1977-80 – Hamburg
Laurie Cunningham – 3 caps – 1980 – Real Madrid
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Trevor Francis – 22 caps – 1978-79, 1982-86 – Detroit Express, Sampdoria
Ray Wilkins – 22 caps – 1984-86 – AC Milan
Gordon Cowans – 2 caps – 1986 – Bari
Glenn Hoddle – 9 caps – 1987-88 – Monaco
Gary Lineker – 24 caps – 1986-89 – Barcelona
Terry Butcher – 32 caps – 1986-90 - Rangers
Steve Bull – 13 caps – 1989-90 – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chris Woods – 20 caps – 1986-91 - Rangers
Chris Waddle – 17 caps – 1989-91 – Marseille
Mark Walters – 1 cap – 1991 – Rangers
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Gary Stevens – 20 caps – 1988-92 - Rangers
Trevor Steven – 12 caps – 1989-92 – Rangers, Marseille
Des Walker – 11 caps – 1992-93 – Sampdoria
David Platt – 33 caps – 1991-95 – Bari, Juventus, Sampdoria
Paul Ince – 17 caps – 1995-97 – Inter Milan
Paul Gascoigne – 32 caps – 1992-98 – Lazio, Rangers
Michael Gray – 3 caps – 1999 – Sunderland
Kevin Phillips – 1 cap – 1999 – Sunderland
Steve McManaman – 13 caps – 1999-2001 – Real Madrid
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Alan Thompson – 1 cap – 2004 - Celtic
Michael Owen – 11 caps – 2004-05 – Real Madrid
Owen Hargreaves – 39 caps – 2001-07 – Bayern Munich
David Nugent – 1 cap – 2007 – Preston North End
David Beckham – 55 caps – 2003-09 – Real Madrid, LA Galaxy, AC Milan
Jay Bothroyd – 1 cap – 2010 – Cardiff City
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Wilfried Zaha – 2 caps – 2012-13 – Crystal Palace
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Joe Hart – 8 caps – 2016-17 – Torino
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Jack Butland – 3 caps – 2012, 2018 – Birmingham City, Stoke City
Wayne Rooney – 1 cap – 2018 – DC United
Jadon Sancho – 11 caps – 2018-present – Borussia Dortmund
Kieran Trippier – 3 caps – 2019-present – Atletico Madrid

There must have been shit tons in the post war years. Brian Clough?

Mason Mount.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd

There must have been shit tons in the post war years. Brian Clough?

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Surprisingly, not that many. Clough is one though, 2 caps in 1959.

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Originally Posted by Manc

Mason Mount.

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Earned his first cap after he returned to Chelsea.

Mark Hately
Luther Blisset
Trevor Francis
Jimmy Graves
Joe Hart
Paul Ince
Des Walker
Ray Wilkins
Laurie Cunningham

Dave Watson
Michael Carrick
Jermain Defoe

David James

Scott Carson.

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Originally Posted by John Arne

Mark Hately
Luther Blisset
Trevor Francis
Jimmy Graves
Joe Hart
Paul Ince
Des Walker
Ray Wilkins
Laurie Cunningham

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All said so far apart from Hateley and Blissett.

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Originally Posted by Dave.

Dave Watson
Michael Carrick
Jermain Defoe

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David James

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Scott Carson.

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12 left, 2 in this millenium.

Oxlade Chamberlain's pops
Des Walker
Laurrie Cunningham

Tony Woodcock
Johnny Haynes
Eric Dier
Alan Mullery

Scott Parker?

Thel Lionel Richie commentator for soccer Saturday. He also appears on a betting advert

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Kris Kamara

Jay Bothroyd
Neil Mellor

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Originally Posted by SincereTheRebel

Oxlade Chamberlain's pops
Des Walker
Laurrie Cunningham

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Walker and Cunningham have already been said. Chamberlain played for England immediately after his move to the top division.

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Originally Posted by Dave.

Tony Woodcock
Johnny Haynes
Eric Dier
Alan Mullery

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Originally Posted by Dave.

Scott Parker?

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Parker misses out by 2 days. He moved to Spurs on the 31st August 2011, and played for England on the 2nd September.

After Jimmy's comment, I've done a bit of delving and there do appear to be a few more answers not on my list. If you get them, I'll add them in.

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Originally Posted by thommo

List so far:

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Kevin Keegan – 25 caps – 1977-80 – Hamburg
Laurie Cunningham – 3 caps – 1980 – Real Madrid
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Trevor Francis – 22 caps – 1978-79, 1982-86 – Detroit Express, Sampdoria
Ray Wilkins – 22 caps – 1984-86 – AC Milan
Gordon Cowans – 2 caps – 1986 – Bari
Glenn Hoddle – 9 caps – 1987-88 – Monaco
Gary Lineker – 24 caps – 1986-89 – Barcelona
Terry Butcher – 32 caps – 1986-90 - Rangers
Steve Bull – 13 caps – 1989-90 – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chris Woods – 20 caps – 1986-91 - Rangers
Chris Waddle – 17 caps – 1989-91 – Marseille
Mark Walters – 1 cap – 1991 – Rangers
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Gary Stevens – 20 caps – 1988-92 - Rangers
Trevor Steven – 12 caps – 1989-92 – Rangers, Marseille
Des Walker – 11 caps – 1992-93 – Sampdoria
David Platt – 33 caps – 1991-95 – Bari, Juventus, Sampdoria
Paul Ince – 17 caps – 1995-97 – Inter Milan
Paul Gascoigne – 32 caps – 1992-98 – Lazio, Rangers
Michael Gray – 3 caps – 1999 – Sunderland
Kevin Phillips – 1 cap – 1999 – Sunderland
Steve McManaman – 13 caps – 1999-2001 – Real Madrid
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Alan Thompson – 1 cap – 2004 - Celtic
Michael Owen – 11 caps – 2004-05 – Real Madrid
Owen Hargreaves – 39 caps – 2001-07 – Bayern Munich
David Nugent – 1 cap – 2007 – Preston North End
David Beckham – 55 caps – 2003-09 – Real Madrid, LA Galaxy, AC Milan
Jay Bothroyd – 1 cap – 2010 – Cardiff City
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Wilfried Zaha – 2 caps – 2012-13 – Crystal Palace
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Joe Hart – 8 caps – 2016-17 – Torino
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Jack Butland – 3 caps – 2012, 2018 – Birmingham City, Stoke City
Wayne Rooney – 1 cap – 2018 – DC United
Jadon Sancho – 11 caps – 2018-present – Borussia Dortmund
Kieran Trippier – 3 caps – 2019-present – Atletico Madrid

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Can you update the list?

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Johnny Haynes – 32 caps – 1954-59 - Fulham
Brian Clough – 2 caps – 1959 - Middlesbrough
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David Watson – 4 caps – 1979 – Werder Bremen
Kevin Keegan – 25 caps – 1977-80 – Hamburg
Laurie Cunningham – 3 caps – 1980 – Real Madrid
Tony Woodcock – 17 caps – 1979-82 – FC Köln
Luther Blissett – 5 caps – 1983-84 – AC Milan
Trevor Francis – 22 caps – 1978-79, 1982-86 – Detroit Express, Sampdoria
Ray Wilkins – 22 caps – 1984-86 – AC Milan
Gordon Cowans – 2 caps – 1986 – Bari
Glenn Hoddle – 9 caps – 1987-88 – Monaco
Gary Lineker – 24 caps – 1986-89 – Barcelona
Terry Butcher – 32 caps – 1986-90 - Rangers
Steve Bull – 13 caps – 1989-90 – Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chris Woods – 20 caps – 1986-91 - Rangers
Chris Waddle – 17 caps – 1989-91 – Marseille
Mark Walters – 1 cap – 1991 – Rangers
Mark Hateley – 28 caps – 1984-92 – AC Milan, Monaco, Rangers
Gary Stevens – 20 caps – 1988-92 - Rangers
Trevor Steven – 12 caps – 1989-92 – Rangers, Marseille
Des Walker – 11 caps – 1992-93 – Sampdoria
David Platt – 33 caps – 1991-95 – Bari, Juventus, Sampdoria
Paul Ince – 17 caps – 1995-97 – Inter Milan
Paul Gascoigne – 32 caps – 1992-98 – Lazio, Rangers
Michael Gray – 3 caps – 1999 – Sunderland
Kevin Phillips – 1 cap – 1999 – Sunderland
Steve McManaman – 13 caps – 1999-2001 – Real Madrid
David James – 4 caps – 2003 – West Ham United
Alan Thompson – 1 cap – 2004 - Celtic
Michael Owen – 11 caps – 2004-05 – Real Madrid
Owen Hargreaves – 39 caps – 2001-07 – Bayern Munich
David Nugent – 1 cap – 2007 – Preston North End
David Beckham – 55 caps – 2003-09 – Real Madrid, LA Galaxy, AC Milan
Jay Bothroyd – 1 cap – 2010 – Cardiff City
Scott Carson – 1 cap – 2011 - Bursaspor
Wilfried Zaha – 2 caps – 2012-13 – Crystal Palace
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Joe Hart – 8 caps – 2016-17 – Torino
Jack Butland – 3 caps – 2012, 2018 – Birmingham City, Stoke City
Wayne Rooney – 1 cap – 2018 – DC United
Jadon Sancho – 11 caps – 2018-present – Borussia Dortmund
Kieran Trippier – 3 caps – 2019-present – Atletico Madrid

Tony Dorigo
Jonathan Woodgate
Fraser Forster

Mick Channon

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Originally Posted by SvN

Tony Dorigo
Jonathan Woodgate
Fraser Forster

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Just one recent player left to get.

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Originally Posted by Dave.

Mick Channon

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Channon was somehow not on my list, but that's right, 26 caps while in the Second Division.