I may actually try that at some point and see if anybody believes me.
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I may actually try that at some point and see if anybody believes me.
Brlan.
Went with a consultant today to break the news to some parents that their kid probably has leukaemia. They only brought them in with some joint pains. Totally blindsided. It was brutal; haven't been affected by something at work like this for a long time.
Well, absolutely fuck that on all fronts.
Was in a meeting with someone using a standing desk yesterday and it was like a birds eye view but from a urinals perspective. Although he didn’t have his knob out.
Also had a meeting mostly discussing Mason Greenwood. :cab:
The big big bosslady wants me to do a “work based learning qualification” which is essentially an apprenticeship but people seem to stray away from saying that cos it’s associated with people bordering on special needs learning a trade. If I can swing it that I can get a day off a week but do nothing extra other than fill in a form every so often saying what I’ve been upto, it sounds great - brownie points with the director, which will likely lead to a promotion, and more time off. However, if it turns out to be actual extra work, I’m not so keen. Anyone done one, as an adult?
Avoid at all costs.
Fell in to that trap when I was in a Civil Service job. Ended up with loads of little jobs to do but not a sniff of actual career progression.
Never again.
Remember that it is actually brownie points for your boss to show she is 'developing' you so it is worth being wary of that angle, happened to my mate where they kept insisting he did additional degrees and post graduate qualifications until he was burnt out and no better off in the role for it.
“I would prefer to focus on my role.”
Cheers boys.
Realistically, being good at your job should be sufficient to step up when the opportunity presents. If it isn't good enough, then it's a dead end job and you're best served fucking it off in short order.
I've got zero qualifications (relating to my job). I've been casually asked a few times if I want to do any but honestly they'll mean nothing but letters after my name. My job is so niche that there's not really anything applicable that I've found.
If they're going to pay for it and it's definitely useful for career progression then snap their hand off, otherwise question what's actually in it for you.
Every single job in my department, above mine, says a degree or equivalent qualification is essential and I dropped out of uni after 4 days. Meanwhile the lad with a degree in graphic fucking design is considered a possible candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
That's mad if all they're after is a degree.
And especially mad that it still matters if the job is the natural progression for the one you're in.
Yeah, I'd be fucking off ASAP.
On the flip side, having a qualification that someone else pays for is not a bad thing.
Depends what it is really. If your own employer insists on a degree for progression, then anything under that is a bit of a waste of time. Or, at best, fluff to "support" you in your current role.
I'd potentially find out what the qualification is and how respected it is though.
The Arab has tested positive for covid. His brother, the IT guy, was just installing new monitors on my desk. Literally 5 minutes later, he tested positive as well and is going home.
If I survive this onslaught I'm superhuman.
My wife gets a lift to work with a woman and 2 others. She managed to give 2 of the 3 Covid, but one of them just can not catch it. Her husband and kids have had it and now she's sat next to my wife who tested positive 6 hours later.
I heard on the radio the other day that they believe the Common Cold (atleast the ones caused by CoronaViruses) can give you some immunity. Or, more likely, you may have just been asymptomatic at some point.
When I had it last month I literally only knew because my daughter tested positive and I did some cautionary tests afterwards. I'd never have known otherwise. I just felt a bit tired.
Near enough everyone in my daughter's room at nursery has had it the same time she's been there and I've been sat near people at work who've then called in the next day after testing positive, still none of us in the house have tested positive for it at all. There's got to be something in regular colds bumping up your resistance because we've always got some kind of cold or bug every few weeks it feels like.
Get your plague talk in the plague thread. The degree as a requirement is ridiculous, especially when it is unrelated. A hangover from Blair I think, at least some sane employers recognise that if you have worked in an industry for years that is equivalent experience in lieu of a degree.
20% of regular "colds" are one of the four endemic coronaviruses we already live with (the other 80% is rhinovirus mainly).
If the immunity to COVID because of those is true, then sound, because otherwise I've had an asymptomatic infection at some point. No way I've actually avoided it all this time if it's as contagious as we're told (England's Euro campaign spelled the end of all COVID "mitigations" in the North East; it's always a shock to the system when I go further south and see how much more seriously they're taking it in comparison).
Degrees are pointless about 90% of the time. I have one of the pointless ones.
Degrees to become Lawyers and Doctors are probably the only actual necessary ones.
Yeah, it fucking sucks. I really feel for the Dads because you can tell they feel like they have to be strong for everyone else and can't show their emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
People who can do paediatric oncology are either very special people, or sociopaths. My experience is of the former but there must be some of the latter around too.
It's definitely regional, but I don't think it's a North / South thing. Masks have been gone for a long time in deepest Essex and they were pretty rare in London when I went on New Years Eve. Kent was pretty masky before Christmas, mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
It's a corporate / non-corporate thing. If you have an arse worth covering then it's being covered. Otherwise, who cares.
Would probably map well onto the Remain/Leave voting map.
I too am in the pointless degree crew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
And me. Economics degree. Realised two months after graduating that I can't cope with London so my career in that industry was torpedoed.
My politics degree is useful in all aspects of life. Especially useful for the two areas where I spend thousands of hours a year, an international sales office and amateur cricket.
I work in the same field as my degree. How do you end up doing something different?
I imagine by applying for all and any "graduate opportunity" jobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Most degrees do not have an associated field.
They have some sort of ties rather than political selling of engine parts.
In my case by going to uni because from the age of about 11 that was all school (and my parents, but I was at that point set to be the first in my family to go and get a degree so I don't hold it against them) told me you did. You're always working towards GCSEs, A Levels and uni and there was never another thing I specifically wanted to do or had in mind and just going to uni seemed the easy option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Chuck in a bit of what Pepe said and I ended up with a degree that wasn't especially useful, I did get a job related to it and didn't like it, just took a call centre job initially while I worked out what I went to do and have ended up where I am now.
A politics degree doesn't get you into any job directly (especially not one in politics). Out of uni I wanted to go into market research, I had several short term contracts in firms which I hoped would constitute a foot in the door. None of them were and the last one (on a phone bank) made me think I wasn't cut out for it anyway. So I went down the local employment agency and said here I am, I'll do whatever. The Koreans hired me from that without an interview. Three years with them was more than enough and so I moved here, as I saw the pay was the same and it offered progression. At my interview the MD asked me to point to a piston from among the bits shown on the corporate poster, I said I couldn't. He gave me the job later that afternoon, on the basis that I can speak French and Spanish (did them at school and just about kept them going well enough in between).
I'm sure many TTHers employment history bear some sort of relation to that pathway, unless you're in a specialist trade of some kind it's just go wherever, work hard enough in between and you'll find a way - and an education, of any kind, doesn't hurt.
Finishing my Business Degree in 2009, a year into a financial crisis and global recession, was admittedly poor timing. :moop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Could've been worse. I packed my Computing degree in and then didn't find work for three years. Not that the degree would've got much use. I'm just not that kind of nerd.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I once applied to a job as a waiter. The manager asked me to roleplay selling a specific wine to him. I said 'I don't know. This one's good,' or something along those lines. He told me to show up the week after for my first shift.
All my interviews bar one were slogs of things. Hate doing them.
High five brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I ended up in financial services because I wanted to do an internship which placed you in companies in New York. The placement ended up at a bank and then once in, I've not bothered looking outside
My qualifications are perfect for my job, but I was unemployed for years because they're worthless for literally everything else.
Common sense at the university of life followed by a postgrad at the school of hard knocks, aye?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Post-graduate study at the University of Knowledge.
My first ever job (after getting a politics degree like Jim) was stacking shelves on the night shift at Asda. They gave us some Heinz oven gloves and made us roleplay a corporate sales pitch as though we were from Heinz and trying to convince Asda head office to stock them in their shops. Really good way to guage how many cages of pizzas and chicken nuggets we could chuck into freezers while telling pissed Polish people "sorry no, we're not allowed to sell alcohol after 10pm".Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
I did management, concentrated in economics and finance, and I’m a management consultant serving mainly financial services clients.
I could have done any degree, to be honest. Wouldn’t have mattered a lick. Maybe it would have made ramp up at the beginning a bit slower, I suppose. But the functional knowledge all gets re-picked up anyways.
*slides over business card*
'The Brand: Luca'
"See this tea towel? Samsung gave it to me. This could be your life."
Do a degree that interests you but you didn’t do any research on what the career post-graduation entails. Fuck it all off because London, move back home, run a random business because no commitments so why the fuck not, fail, get a random job at the company next door, automate your entire job but don’t tell them you’ve done that so you look awesome, get poached via LinkedIn for current job, bore you lot to death with life story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I dropped out of uni after being quite ill in my first year studying English Lit and Film. I preferred making money to studying and got on the railway. I managed to get promoted once I moved away having been stuck before hand. Not sure I'd have been any better off with a degree.
What was the random business and then company next door?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben
Business was primarily cabling supplies working with the companies who provide the camera setups at sports stadiums. Timed it perfectly because they all went wireless for a lot of things around the same time. Company next door was run of the mill business solutions, completely unrelated, they just offered me a job because I had got friendly with a few of them over time and they knew I was suddenly available.
Now work in the construction industry…