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Just finished it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
He was clearly a sociopath.
Also, I think guilty of Odin Lloyd and not guilty for the double Boston homicide was right although he was definitely in the car when the Boston killings occurred and knew the shooter (more than likely Bradley).
In the most surprising underclassmen decision of the bunch, Travis Etienne has decided to go back to school.
LSU have also lost ANOTHER player, with TE Thaddeus Moss (son of Randy) declaring. Still not seen anything for sure on Chaisson.
Giants hiring Jason Garrett as their new OC.
I look forward to lots of clapping on the sideline regardless of the score.
I think he'll do alright.
He seems the type that is better suited as a OC rather than a head coach.
Moss had a big game in the Natty so no reason to go back. Particularly if he doesn’t think LSU will be as good without burrow and friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
How’s the rb class looking? Taylor, swift, Edwards Elaire, najae Harris, who else?
Just googled this myself. Harris is going back too but forgot about jk dobbins.
Taylor, Dobbins & Swift are the three who could find their way into R1, and Edwards-Helaire would probably be the next one off most boards, but then you also have guys like Eno Benjamin, Anthony McFarland, Zack Moss & Cam Akers who could all go day two. Day three should see DeeJay Dallas & Lamical Perine go fairly early (I like both of these two as guys who could be productive three down players at a low cost), with lots of depth at the end in Xavier Jones, Rodney Smith, Benny LeMay, Reggie Corbin & a bunch of other guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Having said that, Najee, Etienne, Kylin Hill & Chuba Hubbard is a fantastic start to the 2021 class :drool:
Shrine Game is tonight, with the Senior Bowl starting next week. Doesn’t sound like the greatest crop of players for Shrine, but no doubt there will still end up being some starters in there somewhere.
Got tomorrow off. They’re gonna get humped but they don’t come around often.
Simmons leaving Clemson now too.
Going to look forward to reading the “big boards”. Should be an interesting draft this year. Three qbs who should go round 1, a few others in the mix and a few outstanding prospects elsewhere ie chase young, the wideout class and Delpit.
Matt Miller's latest rankingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Foe
The Draft Network consensus rankings
I'll throw in Dane Brugler's board but you need a subscription to The Athletic to see them.
JK Scott has a dose of the shits. Possibly going in without the biggest offensive weapon.
What channel is the best coverage on for both games? I got IPTV so have access to them all.
Which is your team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
The Jets.
Sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
We need peoples teams in the OP, though I think most in here know by now.
Giggles has Pleb for company.
I enjoy all the dumb ads thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Then CBS followed by Fox. The first one should start getting into pregame around 8pm your time with kickoff at 5 past 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Was it this forum or the dead one where I was maintaining a list for a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Pleb has been the opposite of a glory supporter anyway. Didn't he briefly flirt with supporting the Raiders?
Dead one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Now TV is about 2 minutes behind when you cast it vs streaming it on-device for some reason.
Not kicking a field goal for over a month :|
This titans team is looking really sharp.
Vrabel has clearly learned from Belichick. Doesn’t matter how good you are in september. Gotta get the job done in December and January.
Ugh, had to be child beater.
Tyran Mathieu is such a beast.
Breeland though is shit.
Big man TD's :drool:
They're going to do this, aren't they?
I could score that sort of touchdown if no cunt was going to tackle me.
Absolutely pathetic defending.
Just blow him the fuck up there near the line, he's a runner not a QB at that point.
Great job from Tremaine Brock failing to tackle a QB at the goal-line.
Football Twitter blowing its load en masse, obviously.
Vrabel looked finished after that. Shot to pieces.
They might actually have to throw the ball downfield :uhoh:
Just fuck off.
What on Earth is he talking about?
Behave, Eisen.
I can live with the Chiefs winning but can't some cunt take Hill's head off in the process?
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Tannehill is looking like Tannehill right now which doesn't bode well.
And we are done.
Tremaine Brock is horseshit.
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Originally Posted by Dan
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Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
They’re all average to good NFL standard players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Shake yourselves up, you’re not 11 year olds watching 15 hours of youtube a day.
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Tyrann Mathieu is absolutely better than good. The other two are probably worse than average.
Chiefs not even giving enough of a fuck to cover the obvious fake punt :cool:
Breeland and Brock are well below average, especially Brock who has bounced around teams for the last few seasons.
Oh, look who just got flagged.
Best ever!
Worst ever!
That’s a weak interference call though.
Where has anyone said either of those things?
Stop being a twat.
What a way to go out :D
Kelce just swore very loudly down a live mic. :D
No matter how much I watch it I can still never really get my head around the owner deference in American sport.
The fucking hack of this anthem :D
'mon the Pack.
They won’t win by kicking there. They need something out of the ordinary to even get close to these.
Best ever rushing TD from Mostert there.
Nerve touched.
R-Most goat 4lyf breh.
Around the NFL dickheads saying that the Chiefs are a likeable team with no one annoying to cover.
Have they forgotten what Tyreek did?
I don’t get the Tyreek Hill thing. You wouldn’t have to turn over too many stones to find a domestic abuse case in the NFL but he’s the only one cops any flak for it. Others like Adrian Peterson are lauded from all corners and he’s a child abuser. Ahman Green is on every list of greatest modern Packers and his favourite hobby was knocking women about. It’s a long list.
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Didn't Hill break his kid's arm?
Packers centre. :lol:
Mahomes is so good he cancels out child abuse.
This game is not going well for Green Bay.
Might as well get all the mistakes out now. This was done and dusted at 10-0.
Quality play from Mostert and his mates there.
Peterson knocked the fuck out of one with a belt buckle.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Pettine needs to get the road tomorrow.
Okay, I'll be going to bed now.
As shall I.
Mostert is having his way with this defence.
He isn't really. Juszczyk is the one doing the bullying, Mostert is just bombing through all the massive gaps.
Why are the Packers sticking with the same two passing setups, even when the Niners are dropping the disguise and very obviously going straight after Rodgers in numbers.
The Packers don’t have anything else. They haven’t all season.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Death by a thousand runs for the Packers then.
Bit of a shame for it to fizzle out like that as you'd think that may have been Rodgers' last chance.
It took me a minute for Jimmy G's statline to register when I looked at it this morning, but I did like SI describing his performance as the "world’s most handsome handoff machine."
Okay, I decided I'd start giving some of the 2020 draft prospects a bit more of a look, as I'd barely watched any of them. MAN DO I LOVE JEFFREY OKUDAH (CB, Ohio State). Him & Derrick Brown (DT, Auburn) might be my two favourite players in the class.
Also, AJ Epenesa (EDGE, Iowa) is a big, strong boy, Isaiah Simmons (Clemson) is the Taysom Hill of defence, and Jedrick Wills (OT, Alabama) just did not give a fuck about anyone trying to pass rush against him.
Planning on doing CeeDee Lamb (WR, Oklahoma), Henry Ruggs (WR on x1.25 speed, Alabama) & K'Lavon Chaisson (EDGE, LSU) next, as they're the three highest rated players I've not got to properly yet.
Oh, and I have a fourth round grade on a punter & a fifth on a kicker :cool:
Is there a reason you go to all this effort for 'grading' players and whatnot other than because you enjoy it?
Not that that's not reason enough, I'm just curious.
Someone from this side of the atlantic just watching TV broadcasts or Youtube compilations can't really 'grade' anyone (unless it's just using an amalgamation of data from loads of real scouting websites as your own) but we all need a hobby in fairness. They're all shit until they prove it for a few seasons in the NFL anyway.
Oh yeah, I’m absolutely nowhere near knowledgeable enough to even know what I’m actually looking for & stuff, and when I say grading what I basically mean is ‘watch a few cutups & think of a couple of numbers out of 10 that feel about right, plug them into an excel document & assign round grade to certain ranges kinda randomly’.
I like data & spreadsheets, and I always get nerdy about the draft, so it’s fun to get a look at some of the guys before they come out & maybe slowly learn something about what I’m actually looking at in the process.
The packers looked a bit off didn’t they.
Get the feeling they’ve basically taken a punt that one of their receivers will eventually turn really good to compliment Adams.
Kurmerow, M V-S and Allison.
Not really happened though, so could see them praying someone like ruggs or Higgins drops to them.
There’s a big gap from Adams to Lazard and then about double that gap back to the rest (not sure why they even signed Ryan Grant). They desperately need 2 or 3 receivers and a TE. Criminal that Jimmy Graham is the highest paid in the league.
There’s some big holes on defence too though, so the draft isn’t going to fix all their problems - ILB in a huge way, D-line help, and someone to drop Kevin Kind down the depth chart a bit. Need to start thinking about a QB in the first 3 rounds very soon too.
I like this. So much better than the waste of time that is an onside kick.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...es-in-pro-bowl
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After a successful field goal or extra point try attempt, the scoring team will have options with no kickoff.
The scoring team, Team A, will have the following options:
1. Team A may elect to give Team B the ball at Team B's 25-yard line, beginning a new series of downs with a first-and-10.
2. Team A may elect to take the ball at its own 25-yard line for a fourth-and-15 play. If Team A is successful in making a first down, Team A will maintain possession and a new series of downs will continue as normal. If Team A is unsuccessful in making a first down, the result will be a turnover on downs and Team B will take possession at the dead-ball spot.
A positive step I guess. 4th and 15 isn't going to be made too often either. Though a successful onside kick gives you possession near the 50, almost guarantees at least a FG attempt.
Fuck that.
I don't know how I feel about those, to be honest.
Need to do something anyway. Recent changes have made the onside basically pointless.
Removing any special teams in favour of offense and defense is a good move for me.
Clearly feeling the pressure from XFL.
I’d like to see 4th & 10 from the 35, rather than 4th & 15 from the 25, but it’s a decent start I guess.
My limited experience of watching 4 games did make it seem pretty pointless that they spend 5 minutes getting a serperate team on and then some guy kicks it into the oppositions touchdown area and then the actual game starts again.
That '5 minutes' won't change even if they did bin special teams for other things because a lot of a given delay is so that they can advertise. The NFL has zero interest in making a game take less time to play. They'll just find other pointless stuff to do instead.
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Orange Gloves is God.
I love that Nugenix ad. I'd seen it on some AEW shows before and I laugh every time they ask the black guy how he stays so fit and it sounds like he answers 'Eugenics'.
How long is the average NFL game, out of interest?
Baseball the average is 3:05 and they are shitting themselves to bring that down, so it's interesting that NFL doesn't have the same problem (or if they do, are keen to ignore it).
The game the other night started at 9 and ended at about midnight. So about the same.
Baseball is very repetitive though whilst American football is a bit more random and wild (read:violent).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I don’t think the nfl cares how long the game takes if it’s 3-4 hour range. People will watch and if it’s a blowout they leave.
Most NFL games seem to come in under 3 hours, or just about on that going off the regular season 6pms, as they're nearly always done by 9.
"the black guy" is a hall of fame baseball player, too. I'm not saying that to be snarky just providing context to the commercial lolQuote:
Originally Posted by phonics
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/4...s-up-all-time/
3:07 for this year although this was measured halfway through the season.
The Bruce will be heartbroken.
It's okay, they still have his clone, and Arch Manning will probably be eligible by the time Jones' rookie deal ends, so they can go back to the real thing.
The Las Vegas Raiders just sounds wrong.
Just wait until we get the Oakland Chargers in five years.
LV Raiders is a bit unwieldy as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
:DQuote:
Before Super Bowl XIII, Cowboys linebacker Thomas (Hollywood) Henderson told the media that Bradshaw “couldn’t spell cat if you spotted him the c and the a.”
Senior Bowl is just about to start in case anyone wants to watch a bunch of day three picks play an exhibition game
NFL.com want me to pay for it this year :D
How is it that the NBA is the only one that does All-Star Weekend right?
I know the Dunk contest has lost some of it's glamour but the NFL version seems to involve people playing dodgeball in a local park.
The NFL one is absolute horseshit.
Mindless 'skill' games and then the most watered down version of a game.
They'd be better just making the game a flag football match.
They should just make it an awards team and forget the whole weekend and game.
That said, the Pro Bowl game has the advantage of still being a better spectacle than basketball.
Mahows just hating because Jarvis Landry is a more accurate passer than Jackson.
Jackson looked every bit the running back during that one.
The carousel has started turning :drool:
Cam Newton to LA, anyone?
Brady instead?
Atwater has finally made it into the HOF.
Full list is:
Safety Steve Atwater, wide receiver Isaac Bruce, guard Steve Hutchinson, running back Edgerrin James and safety Troy Polamalu.
MVP - Jackson
ROTY - Bosa
DPOY - Gilmore
OPOY - Thomas
DROY - Bosa
OROY - Kyler Murray
Comback player - Tannehill
Walter Payton - Calais Campbell
Only the second unanimous MVP (Brady 2010 the first) which is pretty cool.
Also, lol at Cam Newton. He had about double the social media 'interactions' for Man of the Year than anyone else and still lost.
The Madden twitter is up in arms because Cam wont be getting a new card.
I wish they'd do the awards closer to the end of the regular season. It was clearly Jackson and now it feels a little soured because of the play-off crash out.
Also, fuck Cam.
He turned up looking like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPu4pKGW...name=4096x4096
And that's why he didn't win...
Butler was better than both Atwater and Polamalu.
Atwater was a bit before my time but it's always nice to see another Bronco in.
And speaking of Denver, saw a thing with Arthur Blank saying he reckons Falcons / Broncos is a goer in London this year so I guess I'd best start saving my pennies.
I think the Packers are over this year but for the sake of a few extra hours on the plane it would probably be easier to try go to Lambeau for a game. I think the Wembley atmosphere is supposed to be really odd too.
A few extra hours and a shedload more cash, mind.
Probably stretching the legitimate use of the word few as well.
The 'atmosphere' at any NFL game is going to be largely gak.
I’d rather support for one team one way or the other though rather than fans of 32 teams all in a stadium at the one time and 75% of them not having a clue what’s going on.
Plus there’s the stadium tour, Packers hall of fame, etc. It’s Lambeau.
It is odd. Considering one team is supposed to be the home team too. One of the games at Wembley this year had the support all the other way around too. Got to be frustrating for the players.
When they had one at Twickenham we were sat next to a couple who had season tickets for Twickenham itself. They'd never seen a snap before but came along as their ticket is already bought. They left after the 1st quarter.
If you don't take it too seriously it's great, but there's obviously no comparison to going out there. Especially to somewhere like Lambeau.
Yeah of you take it as a fun day out with some gridiron then it's good bit it's not like going to actually see your team in their stadium.
Couple of times I've been we've been sat in amongst some good people and it's been fun.
Simpsons Bowl rematch :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Will refuse to discuss it without a beer to hold in front of my mouth.
Hope kc do it tonight. Although I don’t dislike the 49ers, kc deserve it for the last 2 seasons.
Funny if Brady leaves the patriots and jimmy g winds up super bowl MVP.
There’s so much offence available tonight, got to hope it shines unlike last years defensive shit storm.
Do they fuck.
I hope they lose because the have so many twats and the media wankathon over MVPAT will be unbearable.
I'm hoping Mostert drives the bus right through the pricks.
Also:
£2.50 on Mostert first TD scorer & Niners win
£2.50 on Mostert 1+ TD in each half
£10 on Moster 100+ rushing yards & 1+ TD.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
The Broncos gave us mercy from Cam Newton, we must be saved again by the NFC.
God I hope this game lives up to the hype.
Buck and Aikman though, ffs.
Chiefs go three & out to start. 49ers defence is elite. 50-0 victory assured.
Niners have started HOT.
:drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Also lol at gamepass going down.
Deebo :cool:
It's on BBC One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
It's such a shit service for something provided by a company that makes billions of dollars :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ian
I'm pretty sure that they still don't support PS4 Europe or Amazon's Fire Stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
They didn't last season at least.
Yeah we've switched over. But long as I've got BBC on there's more chance that they have the thoughts of Martin O'Neill or some cunt from JLS or something on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
If the Chiefs defence play like they did against the Titans :moop:
Fortunately I don't think they do that for the Super Bowl. Largely because your fairweather UK celebrity fan isn't going to fly over to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Yeah, this is the issue I have - the BBC coverage is reliable, and looks to be about 15-20 seconds ahead of where GamePass has come back, but then every break you get the BBC NFL squad & Mike explaining what play action is, and I'd rather watch the adverts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Mahomes is so good that Jimmy Ward hit him & hurt himself.
Mahomes would have pitched it had Tartt tried to tackle him but he should have hit him.
A pitch can always result in a fumble or something.
Tartt learnt from Ward not to touch MVPat if you want to stay healthy.
Oh, Jimmy :face:
ffs Jimmy.
"Dance with the horse that brung you" :D
BBC coverage team on fire so far.
Juice Check :cool:
JUICE CHECK :cool:
Great drive.
Liked that drive.
Running it right down your throat. Love it.
Someone break Mahomes.
How long is half time?
At the Superbowl about 10 hours.
Not sure what the logic is in just voluntarily surrendering a 2min drill against the chiefs but okay.
We need more of this from San Fran.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Rh6KuuH6w
No but seriously how long should I come back in?
Half an hour or so.
I was liking it when it was just Shakira.
Gone downhill since the weird silvery rapper and J Lo.
Why did Shakira randomly and very briefly sample Cashmere there???
Hispanic Riverdance?
Mahomes worst QB of all time.
Chiefs are on the ropes.
Early doors I really thought the Chiefs were going to be extending that lead slowly but surely so this is a pleasant surprise.
I've really enjoyed this so far because there's been a bit in it for everyone.
Bosa is starting to get going now too.
Oh boy.
Off the hands of the child beater :drool:
Gg
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Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
No catch but I don't know if there's enough to overturn it.
That was a bullshit flag.
I think he was short but the replay was bollocks. It kept rolling a split second too long.
Gamepass going again as they're looking at the TD. :D
Imagine paying for this
Jimmy G had Sanders on third down too ffs.
Am I being harsh in feeling like the Niners flubbed it a bit here? The Chiefs are obviously good and Williams has had his reward for doing a lot of dirty work through the first few quarters but San Francisco have taken their boot of the Chiefs' neck here.
Jimmy bottled it hard even before the Sanders over throw, the two plays before both should have been picked.
But when you put a sorry CB on any Chiefs WR that’s the result you’re gonna get.
"Will this go down as the Mahomes Super Bowl?"
It fucking shouldn't.
Jimmy bottle show or Damien Williams bowl.
Should absolutely be Williams.
Are they conducting these interviews under water?
That sound was awful.
And fucking lol at Mahomes getting MVP. They're desperate to make this about him.
Niners bottled that the drive after the Chiefs scored to make it 20-17. Got 5 yards on a run then tried to pass it twice, killed only about 40 seconds and gave the Chiefs field position.
Shanahan on BINMAN WATCH.
Still after all that, Jimmy had Sanders open for a TD and then blew it. Then he just tried to get it down the field too quickly. Should have taken it in 10 yard plays out of bounds.
Jimmy didn't know what to do with the pressure. He had no feel for it at all for the entire game. He just wanted to stand in the pocket and wanted more time than the pass rush was allowing him.
Chiefs weren't disguising their blitzes you could see they were coming and from which side. No adjustments were made and he would just wait to be swallowed up.
Oh and Damien Williams was robbed.
Glad I didn’t stay up for that by the sounds of it.
Delighted for Kyle Shanahan reinforcing his bottler tag though. He’s one media wankfest they can shut down for a while.
That was so much better than last year.
Hadn’t realised Sammy Watkins was on such an enormous contract in kc but hey, they’ve built a great offence.
49ers offence just stalled entirely in the fourth quarter. Not like the 49ers defence played badly, giving up 31 to the chiefs isn’t actually that bad. But no chance you’re winning that game with 20 points of your own. 28-30 point minimum to have a shot and it just didn’t happen.
Garapollos stats in the playoffs must be some of the statistical poorest of all time.
I know it’s the done thing for the winning QB to get it but it must have been fairly low on quality overall if Mahomes got the MVP throwing two interceptions. The first of which was one of the worst throws I’ve ever seen.
It was just desperation for everything to be down to Mahomes, from that to the commentary.
It should have been Williams.
This is where Shanahan started to let it slip away. He got too conservative & they let KC get back into it, and when they hit that long completion to Tyreek on third down you could see how this was going to end up. Jimmy G melting in the fourth quarter didn't help either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Oh, and I'd have gone Sammy Watkins for MVP, probably.
the only touchdown and 38 of Damien Williams 104 yards came when the game was basically won I think that's why they didn't go with him tbh.
They didn't go with him because people are idiots who can't see past the QB.
Perhaps you're trying too hard to do so. Both of the TD drives that put Kansas City ahead were entirely Mahomes. Once they stopped them on downs on the next drive they were simply going to hand it off to try to get the first down and subsequently run out the clock, in which Williams added 2 carries and 42 yards to his total.
Basically, when the game was on the line Williams went 15/62 yards and the Chiefs offense couldn't get anything going until they basically abandoned the running game for Mahomes lead touchdown drives, only running Williams once for two yards over those 16 plays.
Now that that’s out of the way, BT have two live XFL games on Saturday.
we should do a random draw for XFL teams
Tampa Bay Vipers
Dallas Renegades
Houston Roughnecks
Seattle Dragons
New York Guardians
Los Angeles Wildcats
St. Louis Battlehawks
DC Defenders
Mahomes had how many good drives and how many bad ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
He was terrible for most of that game.
Sure he didn't play lights out by any stretch but Mahomes was literally the catalyst for all 3 of KC's important TD drives and Williams, while he certainly contributed, did so mostly in the most inconsequential series of the game considering the 49ers were defeated and praying they could keep KC from gaining 10 yards.
I see Winston Moss running the LA team but still has to be Dallas for me.
Damien Williams should still be winning the MVP for me. Over 130 yards and 2 TDs in the Superbowl is a top stat line, and then you consider he put up the lead-taking TD stretching it over the line as he goes out of bounds (although I question whether it was actually in, but that's another question). First half he was a key part of them getting 10-3 up too, KC kept it on the ground and he was getting good yardage on most of the attempts.
The only reason that KC found themselves 10 down were the two awful picks that Mahomes threw. Yes he made a few nice plays in the comeback drives but it's not enough to be an MVP when you've almost thrown the game away and your defence has bailed you out in the 4th.
I'd also put Chris Jones forward for MVP contention for the sheer number of pressures he applied to Jimmy G, but defensive players are sorely overlooked in the MVP discussion.
But you're saying Williams does quite literally because he stretched his arm out on 5 yard pass after Mahomes drove them down to the 5 himself?Quote:
Originally Posted by thommo
I'm saying that's a key play in a 130 yard, 2 TD day for Williams, one of the biggest plays of the whole Superbowl. He didn't make a play that caused further problems for KC, whereas Mahomes did.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Yea but....
Ah you know what fuck it.
Was a great game. Kinda wanted san fran to win cus I've the classic dickhead instinct towards internal backlash against hero worship of sporting superstars, so even though mahomes is clearly class I just can't warm to his ilk. Didnt get the same sense of outright dread and anger I got/get when 90s man utd/Patriots come back though, and on balance I thought yeah fair play.
I love a party pooper but chiefs probably deserved it, san Fran also have nobody to blame but themselves. Sorta like the American football equivalent of a team sitting deeper and deeper holding on to a 1-0 lead and you just know they're gonna concede.
KC :cool:
What was the deal with them continually getting to within a yard of the first down and then cutting in and not making said distance? Was driving me mad.
They're always going to give Mahomes (or any star QB) the MVP unless someone else has an unbelievable game offensively, or if it's a defensive shitfest. Good to see a high flying offence get over a top rated defence in the big one for once.
Loving The Donald praising the GREAT STATE OF KANSAS for their Super Bowl win.
Good work, moron.
Fuck off.
I had no idea about this Kansas City geographical anomaly.
Which is fine if you're not in charge of the country where that's the case.
Probably that they don't have a bright yellow line to base that off.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
They know exactly where the first down line is, every time, without needing to refer to imaginary lines, or the very real massive fucking pylons on the side of the pitch.
That's 'Receiving and route-running 101' as I believe would be the parlance.
Most routes are designed to break after x yards, so they know damn well without looking. It'd be like asking a goalkeeper where his goal is without him looking.
In other news, DOUBLE MINSHEW MANIA is ON as the Jags have agreed to play 2 back-to-back UK home games in 2020.
I mean they so often run the route short though. This wild characterization they ALWAYS know is a little extreme.
It was more that they were cutting to try and get extra yards, but it must have happened 2 or 3 times where they were almost literally at the 1st down line (Hill and Kelce definitely did it) before stepping back and ending up with an X and 1 instead of a first down, which, to me, was quite frustrating.
If they regularly don’t know then they should be playing this coming weekend.
Oh no I mean Kelce did it one time where it was so blatant I got pissed off and I had no horse in the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
What I mean is, though, you were saying "They know exactly where the first down line is, every time, without needing to refer to imaginary lines, or the very real massive fucking pylons on the side of the pitch." man do you know how many times these dumb assholes have ran an out route and came up a yard or two short on 3rd down and how many times I've wanted to fuckin reach through the tv and choke them the fuck out lol
lol and nah for sure it doesn't happen ALL the time but when it does it drives me insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Eric Weddle retired.
:D
small letters
Can I sue them for not getting them to show more skin?
XFL time!
Kickoffs look weird.
Go Vipers.
Wtf are these kickoffs?
I do like that we can hear the mic'd up coaches and QB.
Edit: I'm also between Defenders (Elam and Cardale) or Guardians (uni).
Cracking play by Cardale.
Enjoying this so far.
Ah shit, forgot this was today :moop: Out to the cinema so I’ll catch up tomorrow. Did I hear that it’s on BT ESPN?
BT Sport 3.
ESPN Player also.
Player says 'Fucking' in an interview and we get a punt block TD within about 30 seconds. Scenes.
Got home just in time to watch Chad Kanoff throw a hissy fit.
I'm liking this XFL.
Going for it at 4 and 8 :D
I also like the fact that the clock is constantly active when there's a dead ball and/or penalty which is fucking wild.
I only watched the first half of the first game but I enjoyed it.
Yeah, just watched the highlights of both games & it was pretty good. Quality is about the same as the AAF, but the rule changes help give it something different.
Cardale Jones looks to be the best of the four QBs that played, although Phillip Walker had a really strong game up until he threw a pick at the end. The two former Cooper Kupp backups Nelson Spruce & Austin Proehl stood out as well. Tyree Jackson, however, embarrassed himself in the few snaps he took - just seemed to have no idea what to do & got himself sacked on two conversion attempts.
Is Austin Proehl anything to Ricky?
I liked what I seen of the first game.
Think spruce was looking pretty solid in that series of hard knocks but has a duff knee. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone took a swing on him next season.
Yeah, I think Austin is his son.
I’d imagine you’ll get Proehl & Spruce, Cardale, Kony Ealy & Rashad Ross at least get a look through training camp, plus anyone else who emerges & people I’ve forgotten from the teams that haven’t played yet. Tyree will get a look too just because of TRAITS.
Greg Olson as a commentator? :|
He did a few games last season & they loved him, so he'll be doing it full-time as soon as he decides he doesn't want to play next year.
I know the stadium is bigger but the crowd looks seriously poor at this one.
No catch for me but that was some hit.
Lol at them using an Xbox controller.
Some weird looking cheerleading squad during intermission on my stream :D
Player mics not even working :D
Vipers are looking pretty shit.
Ricky Walker :face:
These teams don't look quite as good as DC & Houston did, although NY do have my boy from the AAF Jamar Summers.
Cracking catch.
Murray sucks.
Jamar :cool:
The Tampa Bay Vipers are the worst team in the league by miles so far.
Clearly they are channeling the LOLphins.
The offensive playcalls from the Vipers are so :D
Jesus, it took about two minutes for the Vipers to decide whether they wanted to take a 10 second runoff or not. Marc Trestman is doing a fantastic job outing himself as a terrible head coach.
This whole offence has just been an utter disaster.
I liked Jordan Ta'amu coming out of college, so hopefully he doesn't shit the bed here.
RIP Rivers.
Was that not a couple of weeks ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
It wasn't official back then.
You know we finished the season 5-4, so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleb
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hip-has-healed
I think with this and the fact that Rivers is officially done the Dolphins are going to have to trade up to second/third to get him.
Nope!
:)
Obviously it will come down to what their own doctors actually think when they do their own medical checks on him, but the expectation has been that they'd end up trading up to for him anyway, and since they can outbid anyone who tries to jump them the only real threat is if Detroit decide to just take him themselves.
In a move that surprises no Baltimore fan, Tony Jefferson has been cut.
He had regressed slightly at the start of the season and when he got injured Chuck Clark came in (who was given a nice new contract) and performed a hell of a lot better.
Redskins have released Josh Norman & Paul Richardson as well, and the Texans have cut Vernon Hargreaves.
It’s that time of year; everyone’s clearing money for free agency.
Have they cut Jordan Reed yet? If not, why not?
He'd get a concussion on the way out of the building.
Not yet, but it's going to happen - they'd save something like $8.5m by letting him go. He should retire, really.
Myles Garrett sticking by calling out mason Rudolph as the perpetrator.
Pretty mixed reaction. Some calling for Garrett to be suspended for the accusation which is a bit mental. Unless you’ve heard all the footage available and actually studied the lip sync you really can’t comment.
Ugly though. Smart from Myles not to talk more about it before being reinstated though as the NFL would’ve just left him suspended to avoid it and claimed it was because of the helmet swing.
Also not heard much about the Antonio brown contract stuff.
Roll on the draft.
Combine in two weeks, and there’s a genuine chance we see multiple guys run 4.2s in the 40 :drool:
Get me excited about pass rushers and middle linebackers.
I can't see us selecting another position in the first.
EDGE is pretty much Chase Young, then a big drop to AJ Epenesa (Iowa), K'Lavon Chaisson (LSU) & Yetur Gross Matos (Penn State), then you're pretty much just hoping. There are a few other guys who seem to be thought of as day two guys, like Darrell Taylor (Tennessee), Kenny Willekes (Michigan State), Bradlee Anae (Utah) & Curtis Weaver (Boise State), but in terms of bigger guys that might work for Baltimore, maybe Nick Coe (Auburn)? He's a defensive lineman who plays inside & on the edge, and seems to be listed as a linebacker on the combine list.
As for the proper linebackers, it's pretty similar. Isaiah Simmons, then Patrick Queen (LSU) or Kenneth Murray (Oklahoma), then take your pick from a bunch of maybes - Malik Harrison (Ohio State) & Troy Dye (Oregon) are probably the two most notable, but there's always depth at linebacker if you just want someone to come in & do a job.
There's been a lot of Kenneth Murray to Baltimore in mocks, and then usually receiver - Laviska Shenault in that offence would be filthy :uhoh:
It depends what we do in free agency too.
We're projected to have around $45m and speculation is growing that we're after Clowney.
Cardale Jones to Eli Rogers is OP for the XFL.
Mclolin.
Cardale is really fun to watch at times.
Defenders are the best team in the league, surely?
Turned on, seen crowd, turned off. I know it’s a better standard than college and some of us watch that, but with zero atmosphere it’s a tough ask.
Marc Trestman should be fired. The Vipers are awful - no offensive TDs through two games :D
Just fuck off.
Vipers really are the Bungles/LOLphins/Jets of the XFL.
Landry Jones' rushing efforts are inspiring dads everywhere to believe that maybe they too can be XFL QBs. I know he has a bad knee but he's running like his kneecap is on the back of his leg, not the front.
Maybe his passing efforts are doing the same thing, actually.
Brees is back :cool:
Saw that and delighted.
Makes it interesting for Bridgewater and taysom hill.
Neither will really want to hang about as a backup but could see hill leveraging himself to a 3-4mill 1 year deal to hang about. Teddy’s a goner unless they told him he was the Brees successful when he whiffed in Miami last off season.
If anyone thinks Hill is a franchise QB needs shooting.
Apparently Teddy is looking for $30m a year :D
If he gets that then Dak will get $50m & Mahomes will get 50% of the team.
I actually think if you plugged him into an offence and asked him to throw he wouldn’t be that bad. He’s a backup weapon but definitely a better thrower than he gets credit for. He was great at BYU, ignoring all the knee injuries (which is strange as since becoming a pro he’s just a wrecking ball).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Yeah good luck with that. The browns have a qb and so do the Texans so your chance is gone for that bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I love the tweet that showed Mo Sanu’s QB stats against Taysom’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
So it looks like we're moving towards a 17 game regular season in 2022. Also moving the number of play-off teams from 12 to 14 and only giving a bye to one team in each conference.
I get that more football > less football, but I'm not sure I agree with the play-off decision.
The meaningful regular season was one of the best things about the NFL so it's an awful decision.
Love this. Might actually be the best, most directly translatable drill in the whole combine, to be honest.
Greg Robinson has been a naughty boy.
ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY SIX POINT NINE POUNDS :cab:
Potentially looking at 20 years in prison.
He’s an idiot. Interesting to know what went through his head.
A lot of weed fumes.
We're also about to be back to teams only being able to use one tag(Franchise or transition) per off season.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
There it is.
He was still in the concussion protocol until his release, from a hit in pre-season.
While we're on the subject of high profile players who were hurt all last season, just got cut & might retire:
Hopefully he gets healthy & decides to come back. Clearly doesn't want to call it quits & he'd probably still be an elite player if he could get past the injuries.
Remember kids, take care yo' bread and yo' chicken.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
And now it's time for your weekly reminder that Marc Trestman is terrible & should be fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
They have the Defenders next week too :harold:
Cardale Jones 1/5 for 0 yards & 2 INTs so far & Defenders 14-0 down to the Wildcats :|
There's talk flying about of a potential Eli situation with Burrow. Could well change about the top of the board a bit if true.
We've made Wink Martindale the highest paid DC.
I think this happened a couple of years ago with the Browns, and probably several other times. I feel like everything that comes out around this time of year is down to somebody trying to get leverage to swing the draft their way - see all the ‘Miami likes Justin Herbert as much as Tua’ or ‘maybe Detroit will take a QB’ articles that have started popping up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Not sure Burrow is the sort to shy away from a challenge, and he’s an Ohio native so it’d be back home for him (although he did transfer from Ohio State, which does counter both of those points).
Bengals are trash ownership with super tight purse strings & an almost nonexistent scouting department, they’re probably going to let AJ Green walk & their defence has two good players under 30 (Jessie Bates & William Jackson), so it’s not impossible, but it’s probably still no worse than a lot of #1 overall picks have gone to - they still have Mixon, Boyd & a few good young linemen to give him something to work with, and a young coach with a modern scheme who should get stability to build his team long term.
Sounds like we’re in for a fun combine.
I don’t really understand it. Got a medical certificate from a nfl doctor confirming you’re injured? Fine. Come along and do what you can. Fully fit and can’t be fucked with the drills? Nah. Away you go, you can work out at your pro day and see what teams are interested enough to come along.
The combine is a waste of time the more teams realise that tape of players playing actual football is more important than a few irrelevant drills. If they really wanted it they’d conspire not to pick players high that don’t work out.
The thought seems to be that we're slowly moving towards the combine becoming more & more of an entertainment product, what with the move to US prime time hours & the expectation that it's going to be moving away from Indianapolis sooner rather than later.
Teams only really care about the guys who massively surpass expectations or totally bomb it, and even then it's only really to make them to go back to their tape or so they can use it as a tiebreaker for evenly matched players. Most of the benefit for teams is in the medicals & interviews anyway, so we'll inevitably have the draft version of the pro bowl skills showdown in Las Vegas or LA within a few years.
Bloody punter just did 25 reps on the bench press.
Fuck me.
The bigger question is why the fuck is a punter doing the bench press instead of punting?
Chase Claypool giving it the DK treatment - 6'4" 238lbs, 40.0" vertical, 4.42 forty :cab: They're planning to work him out at TE as well - imagine some linebacker trying to cover that.
Fucking Albert Okwuegbunam (shockingly, most people call him Albert O) ran a 4.49 as a 6'5" 258lbs TE as well, and Michigan WR Donovan Peoples-Jones jumped 44.5".
We're getting Ruggs overnight too - Jalen Reagor will probably become the second person to jump 12+ in the broad jump too.
EDIT: Nevermind, apparently he's already jumped & only managed 11' 6" :moop: Bit of a letdown for a guy who won a state long jump title in Texas & said he was just dabbling in it, but still up near the top of the charts.
:D
Gauntlet drill is always good entertainment.
4.27 for Henry Ruggs:yawn:
Reagor had a pretty poor showing in the end - 4.47 is way slower than expected & his three cone was almost DK speed. Denzel Mims shows up through.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-take-herbert
Daniel Jeremiah must have done this mock whilst drunk.
He has the Chargers not taking a QB and Herbert (who will be going to the Chargers) lasting all the way until the Patriots at 23. He also has the Ravens taking D'Andre Swift when it's pass rusher or middle linebacker that we'll be targetting.
I don’t know the player in question but the Packers need an actual receiver, not someone who’s good at workouts.
The Jags :harold:
Denzel Mims is good, to be fair, but first round is probably just the hype train getting carried away. He's be a great pick in the second round though. A lot of DJ's picks are guys that aren't commonly fitted where they've gone by other draft sites, but you'd have to imagine he's pretty plugged in to how teams are thinking, so probably at least worth taking some of the fits into consideration.
I know Bouye had a down year this season just gone but that's daylight robbery.
Edit: Apparently he was going to be cut so I guess a fourth is a pretty decent if true.
They're going hard at CBs in free agency, you'd have to imagine. That and/or they're taking CJ Henderson at 9. Definitely a great deal for Denver though.
Jags are also going to be losing Ngakoue regardless of whether they tag him or not - he's made it very clear that he won't play for them again. The front office have absolutely decimated a great defence with their incompetence.
Might be shopping Nick 'pay him extra so people think he's legit' Foles too :D
They're a complete mess right now.
They dont deserve Big Dick Nick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VzzDaz1HbkQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Brett Kollmann likes the guy a lot.
Perfectly timed upload, that was.
Panthers have swapped Trai Turner for Russell Okung.
Chargers have gotten away with daylight robbery.
Turner is better, younger and isn't as injury prone like Okung.
Quinnen Williams follows up his underwhelming rookie season by getting arrested trying to bring a Glock onto a plane :face:
Rumours that Yanda will officially retire this week :(
Or even today :(
The players have voted yes on the CBA, so we're set for 14 play off teams now, with only 1 bye each side and a 17 game regular season.
Also only one tag(Franchise or transition) per team.
They’ve fucked it.
Calais Campbell to the Ravens :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Calais Campbell is off to the ravens.
Didn’t last long in Florida, did he?
So we traded Kaare Vedvik for a fifth rounder which gave us two for the year.
The first we sent to the Rams (along with Kenny Young) for Marcus Peters and the other for Calais Campbell.
Not too shabby at all.
Better hope he’s still ready to go in 2021.
Also, rumours are that the draft is going to be pushed back to late May and wont be hosted in Vegas.
Dan will be crying when he finds out.
How will this affect our dynasty leagues?!
Jags vs Panthers for Trevor Lawrence, it seems.
Fucking hell.
:|
Jesus Christ. That’s a lot of faith in someone after a good half season...Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Derrick Henry must be pissed off.
Or with the new cap they're going to pay him big too.
Deandre Hopkins might be up for trade.
I'm seeing a lot of people mocking D'Andre Swift or Jonathan Taylor to us in the first round and I don't understand why.
Ingram is still under 30 and we've got a fine backup in Gus the Bus with a guy who can potentially become a really good big play guy in Justice Hill.
And we have much bigger holes in other areas, primarily O-Line, MLB, WR and pass rush.
Even more odd is that they aren't Tight Ends.
Browns have made Austin Hooper the highest paid TE in history, lol.
David Johnson to Houston. GM Bill :harold:
Never mind, he’s been outdone:
One decent season after a handful of woeful ones = $10m a season...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
GM Bill trolling the Houston.
WHAT?!
Unbelievable. THIS IS WHY YOU NEED A PROPER GENERAL MANAGER.
:|
There are no words to describe O'Brien's stupidity.
Jesus fucking Christ.
I mean. Come on.
They must think the WR class is just outrageous (that they’ll get one in the second round, since you know, kenny fucking stills).
BoB is not a GM. Fuck.
man what the fuckQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan
brilliantQuote:
Bill O’Brien has turned
- DeAndre Hopkins
- Jadeveon Clowney
- 2020 4th rounder (131st overall)
Into
- Gareon Conley
- David Johnson
- Jacob Martin
- Barkevious Mingo
- 2020 2nd rounder (40th overall)
- 2021 4th rounder
First round pick well spent, that. Got more for him than Hopkins though :D
I'm alright with that tbh. He never really fit and Mandrews took off.
Bucker to the Colts now :cab:
Diggs has kicked off, coincidentally almost exactly around the time Cousins signed his new extension. Says he's to be traded imminently.
We're signing Brockers now.
Our front 3 will be Brockers - Williams - Campbell which is pretty damn sweet.
Jimmy Graham to the Bears. Bet he'll be fucking good now, though still glad Green Bay moving on from him.
EDIT: $9m guaranteed. Jesus.
:|
Fuck me.
:harold:
Brady has announced that's he's moving.
It’s going to be Tampa :uhoh:
I'd love it if Jameis went to New England :eyemouth:
It's going to be weird seeing Brady at a different team and the official end of the Patriots dynasty.
Dalton to the patriots (prediction)
Would be great if the pats traded SF for Jimmy G back and Brady went to San Fran.
Problem solved.
Cam immediately jumping on IG to call the Panthers out for forcing him into the move :cool: Looks like Teddy will be the replacement - 3yrs $60m is pretty damn cheap in this economy.
Bears have formed out for Robert Quinn & cut Leonard Floyd.
Under the radar move of the window is Philly getting Javon Hargrave - him & Fletcher Cox next to each other is obscene.
Rivers off to the colts for $25m 1 year deal.
Carousel.
Brady to the Bucs reportedly done.
Leaves Newton and Winston the last ones on the merry-go-around. Not much room to get off now either.
Jameis to Patriots please.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI5NJZfWwAEHIgc.jpg
Bucs going to be a really weird team now. Bruce Arians.. Tom brady.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Bill :|
Fucking hell.
He must despise Raheem Sterling...
I’m sorry, what?!
The market for veteran interior defensive linemen is completely fucked.
That's mad.
He's only recently turned 30 and still playing at a Pro-Bowl (not that it means much) level.
Generates a lot of pressure from inside too.
Foles to Chicago.
LOL
Allen Robinson and Cordarrelle Patterson will be happy, they were reaching out to Brady and Cam:
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Wonder if this guy can give me the lottery numbers for 2025.
rip.
Darius Slay from the Lions to the Eagles for a 2020 3rd and 5th.
Not too shabby to fill out our greatest need.
Gurley has been cut.
Calling Tampa Bay...
Flacco's glorious tenure in Denver is over.
Gone to the Falcons now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Andrus Peat back to the Saints, who continue to LOL at the idea of a salary cap (and also have a coach with COVID now)
Ebron to the Steelers as well.
1 year, $5m which is a terrific deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
If he's able to run despite his knees then brilliant, if not then they've wasted fuck all.
Saints signing Sanders probably a low-key, very pro gamer move.
I was hoping he'd come to Baltimore.
:drool:
Not sure where we’ll be looking with our first pick now - maybe linebacker if Patrick Queen it Kenneth Murray are there, otherwise maybe corner? Might be worth trading back, but that doesn’t seem like a Saints thing to do.
I missed Denver signing Melvin Gordon.
Not convinced by that.
Shiiii :rasta:
I don't get it from Denvers side. They still have Lindsay and Royce Freeman to mind, who compliment each other well. I don't get why you'd spend money putting Gordon into that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Gordon knows where the endzone is.
9 TD's in 11 games last year compared to Freeman with 4 and Lindsay with 7 both playing in all 16 games.
Guess we should've seen this one coming after his time away last year, but still sucks.
I feel like it's money that could have been put towards just keeping those two in place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Maybe just more running options to support Lock but I dunno, I'm not keen on the move at face value.
He must be fairly handy if people are even noticing that a center is retiring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Generally regarded as one of the best centres in the league. Also, he plays for the Cowboys so it’s automatically news.
Seahawks have traded a fifth round pick for Quinton Dunbar from Washington, who have also traded a fifth rounder for Kyle Allen.
We also have Mariota to the Raiders, Dion Lewis to the Giants, and the Chiefs have signed Jordan Ta’amu.
Carolina are just looking for a completely fresh start at qb by look of it.
Has will grier survived?
Of course he has :cool:
We've re-signed Jimmy Smith to a 1 year $6m contract.
Another great move by EDC.
He’ll probably make it to final cuts, and then end up on the practice squad unless he can beat out PJ Walker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Will Grier will beat out everyone, just wait.
You know, I heard somewhere that Love Will Grier You Apart.
Lots of not very exciting signings in the last few hours - Dorsett to Seattle, Peyton Barber to Washington, Travis Benjamin to the 49ers & Rashaan Melvin to the Jags, as well as Buffalo re-signing Isaiah McKenzie & the Jets bringing back something called a Bennett Jackson :yawn:
EDIT: And then the Panthers get Robby Anderson?! :cab:
Bennett Jackson is another of the Baltimore players that the Jets took (they have to be in double figures), decent back up option at safety who played really well in some pre-season games for us.
Speaking of Jets signing former Ravens, Perriman has signed on a 1 year deal.
Trevor Lawrence started a crowdfunding effort to help people being impacted by Coronavirus, and the NCAA quickly had it shut down because he's not allowed to use his position as an NCAA athlete to promote any sort of fundraising.
What pathetic shitcunts.
They really are bastards.
"At least when everyone's dead nobody will accuse us of having allowed the rules to be broken."Quote:
Originally Posted by John
The NCAA are absolute tyrants.
They're claiming that they never shut it down and have given it the go ahead but it does sound very them.
And now Patrick 'Peanut' Onwuasor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Brockers deal with Baltimore has fallen through and he's re-signed with the Rams.
Apparently he failed his medical due to a high ankle sprain and wasn't willing to re-negotiate his contract.
Sucks as we let Michael Pierce go and traded Chris Wormley.
We've signed Derek Wolfe on a 1 year deal for $3m after Brockers fell through.
Not bad a bad signing, cheap due to all the injuries he's had though.
I really like Wolfe, I think that's a good signing. he'd longed been touted as one of the ones likely to go though along with Harris.
Aldon Smith, the amazing pass rusher who couldn't stop getting in trouble, is back.
He hasn't played since 2015 but the Cowboys have given him a 1 year contract.
There’s still a part of me that’s waiting for them to reveal that as an April Fools joke.
Only the shit franchises change jerseys anyway.
Hey. :(
:D
Texans have traded for Brandin Cooks. 2nd rounder and future 4th.
That'll sure keep them fans happy.
Texans ended up trading Hopkins and 17 spots in the second round for Brandin Cooks and David Johnson.
:lol:
Wasn’t there talk last season of Cooks possibly having his career in jeopardy because of all his concussion issues? I know I definitely thought he should be considering it.
Great work as usual, Bill :thbup:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...-for-hire-plot
Former All-Pro running back Chris Johnson has been linked to a murder-for-hire plot that resulted in the deaths of two men in 2016, TMZ Sports reported Thursday.
TMZ said Johnson hasn’t been charged but is suspected of paying “a noted Florida gang member” to kill two men whom he believed shot at him and a friend in 2015.
Dolphins need to throw a 1st toward Houston and try and get Deshaun outta there.
RIP the XFL.
CoVid killed it.
Car crash.
4 years, $64m for McCaffrey. Haven't seen how much of it is real yet but on paper he's the highest paid RB in the league now.
Ever apparently.
Make sense for him. They say they’re throwing him in there he’s bound to pick up an injury at some point.
If they regret the deal in two years time it’ll be the death blow for RB second contracts.
Von Miller has the virus.
At home rather than in the hospital so presumably the symptoms aren't too bad for him.
Draft is only a few days away :drool: It's crazy every year, but I'm looking forward to all the extra chaos that will inevitably come with the virtual draft.
Did a three round mock if you can see it.
Fournette apparently on the trade block, so that's him, OJ Howard, Yannick Ngakoue & Joe Thuney, among others, who could be moved about on draft day.
Kenneth Murray, Patrick Queen and Gross-Matos are our main targets I think. If one of those aren't there for us I can see us trading down to pick up a sliding WR or edge rusher.
Jags released marquise lee.
Hurns, Robinson and lee all let go.
Think the top 3 picks in the draft are pretty locked in but just can’t see the giants not trading down.
The talk is that the Giants will take Isaiah Simmons or a tackle (likely Tristan Wirfs). I'm not sure the Giants would maximise Simmons, but there are going to be a few solid OT's at the top of round two whereas there's no other Isaiah Simmons in this class (I guess maybe Jeremy Chinn or Kyle Dugger if you want discount versions), so it does make some sense.
Seeing stories of the Falcons saying Kendall Sheffield can be a CB1 alongside stories of the Falcons being expected to be one of the most aggressive teams in the draft makes me think that they'll be trading up for CJ Henderson, assuming Okudah goes to Detroit of course. Can't see anyone in the top 6 trading out that far, and not sure they'd be able to strike a deal with Carolina, so it probably would have to be a trade with Arizona to get ahead of Jacksonville.
Interestingly you have us going for the same guy I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I think we'd like to get involved with the Ruggs III, Lamb or Jeudy debate, but that's may be too expensive for us. I have however seen Howie take us into pick #2 for a QB he liked and that worked out well.
I also think the Patriots will play smart. I can see them wanting to get either Hurts or Fromm. They'll need to be in R2 to do that though, so they'll likely move back in the 1st to try and pick up a 2nd and chuck one of their 3 x 3rd rounders back over.
Nah, they’ll just have Tua fall to them at 23 & he’ll never get hurt again.
The whole pandemic has really knocked me for six in terms of the NFL - I really haven't been keeping up to date with anything regarding the draft as it's weird to think of it still happening under all the circumstances. Need to catch up on all the predictions this week.
I did a mock where I tried to cause as much mayhem as possible.
Apparently they did a test run of the draft & there were technical problems at the very first pick. Should be great fun come Thursday.
No offense Dan but that's just very silly with Herbert going #1 overall.
NFL teams do very silly things all the time, especially when it comes to drafting QBs. Doing very silly things was kinda the whole point.
Oh ok let me rephrase
"What the fuck did you even get out of that that a monkey wouldn't have by just smashing his hands against the keyboard aimlessly?"
What the fuck do any of us get out of anything?
Insight. Knowledge. Experience. Enjoyment. Affection. Indignation. Kindness. Astonishment. Contempt. Disdain. Reflection. Devotion. Despair. Anxiety. Grief. Nostalgia. Satisfaction. Sympathy. Entrancement. Excitement.
I assume he got one of those out of it.
Thanks for clearing it up.
Check out my mock draft guY'sM:
#1. Shane Falco, QB, Ohio State
#2. Bobby Boucher, DE, South Central Louisiana State
#3. Willie Beamen, QB, Houston
#4. Joe Burrow, QB, LSU
#5. Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama
:drool: it's happening, boys
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Took a flier on love dropping out the first round (I just can't see the pats taking him and struggling to find another team). Delpit to the saints seems a reach too but they've seen far too much of him being great to not take him if he's there (hopefully).
Wirfs to the cardinals would just be so fun. Ridiculously mobile qb protected by a freaky athletic tackle.
Gronkowski is back. To Tampa for a 7th rounder.
That’s just stupid though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
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Clearly I got these ones from you :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?Quote:
Originally Posted by giggles
Just trade Edelman there mid-draft & be done with it.
Apparently now it’s actually Gronkowski and a 7th for a 4th.
But it's not even like a plausible scenario starting at Step 1 of 32 is all I was getting at. You've literally just picked random names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
It's fun to play with scenarios. Not every mock draft has to be predictive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
They probably should contain all real people though.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
You’ve shat the bed.
Dry your eyes, mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
He's shat a hole straight through the bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I've made a group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
The Third Half. Password is TTH.
No, there's logic behind every pick, it's just that some of them are extremely far fetched.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Will attempt to find that tomorrow evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I really struggled when I got into the middle. All the teams that really need lineman and backers get on when the really good ones are gone.
Jonathan Taylor to the titans would be so good though. A Henry/Taylor beatdown.
Not when you've picked something entirely impossible at #1 but I'm glad you enjoyed wasting your time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I think I've gone far too O-Line heavy and CB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Titans should get AJ Dillon on day three.
Impossible, no. Improbable, yes.
What else are we to do whilst in lockdown? Fuck knows.
Nah, that'll probably be almost half of the first round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I didn't realise you'd had the Bengals pick confirmed, Mr Schefter.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
It's going to be Burrow, obviously, but no pick is 100% until it's announced, so why not play around with some hypotheticals? Dolphins could offer them five first rounders to give him up, for instance. Or he could do the Tunsil gas mask tomorrow.
No, I used the right word.
Because Herbert isn't going #1 so once you do that you're basically committing to wasting the next (time) of your day on a bit that wasn't even remotely humorous enough otherwise to be considered worth sharing with any other human than yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Joe Burrow dies tomorrow in a freak accident. Do the Bengals still take him?Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Well then I guess he isn't also going #2 or whatever either then is he you absolute fuckin genius? So guess what that also means? Your bit is still invalid and a waste of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Try again.
I'm not doing a bit. It's impossible.
Moving on, then.
You're an absolute nutcase, Bruh.
You've also never done anything pointless but mildly entertaining for yourself in your life.
Twitter just did the same bit that Bruh & I did :D
I bet he enjoyed himself more and for longer doing it than you have shitting your undies clean off your body at him for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Counterfactuals can be fun little intellectual exercises. In this case there's more than one in play, but then 'what if the Bengals biff a draft' is hardly a counterfactual at all.
Patriots are 'trading' Gronk to the Bucs, because he's told them that while he wants to play again, he only wants to do so with Brady and not for them. They'll be sending him and a seventh round pick and getting a fourth round pick in return. Given he's retired and it sounds like he wouldn't be coming back to play for them whatever happened, it's decent business for the Pats. They're essentially swapping a seventh for a fourth.
We were touched on it briefly before Bruh had yet another meltdown over nothing.
It's great business by the Patriots, he was never going to play for them again and he looked pretty poor in his last season as injuries have clearly taken their toll.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2020/mock-d...es-drew/381304
I hope you're going to be posting a letter bomb to MJD as he also has Herbert going number 1 in his serious draft, Bruh.
Bruh: You've just wasted your time, Dan
Also Bruh: *wastes his time critiquing about something somebody else did for some harmless fun*
That said I'm all in on Shane Falco for the number one spot. #2 is clearly going to be Julius Campbell though, idiot.
Last night at about 12:30am I was wondering about a mock draft where you can only draft players who wore the same jersey number as the pick you're making, so you might get that one at some point too. Spoilers, there are a lot of numbers that nobody good seems to wear. On the other hand, if you can get a number in the 1-15 range you're probably going to get drafted - 1 & 2 in particular have a bunch of studs.
I need this quarantine to end :(
EDIT: On a related note, TDN did a hometown only mock.
Yeah I was thinking college/state only draft. Kind of like what the jags do each first round anyway.
Edit that hometown draft is stupid.
Dan. You can only draft a player who played college football in the same state as the team playing. Go.
Trades are allowed if you think a team would jump up to get a specific prospect.
Joe Burrow used to play at Ohio State...
The Texas & Florida teams will be loaded, obviously. Saints will have a nice group of LSU players all to themselves too :) Nobody plays in Maryland though, so sorry Washington & Baltimore.
Yeah. That counts.
I want to see a full list of 32 picks. The hometown draft is stupid because he’s basically having to trail through the Unknowns. Bar maybe the raiders or chiefs, I suspect most of the teams have pretty high level prospects.
It's probably not that different by college, to be honest. Nobody good for any of the New York teams or Las Vegas, not many decent prospects out of places like Tennessee & Minnesota this year, although just enough to get by. I gave it a quick look & it's pretty difficult to do a whole mock without just spamming picks for the teams from Texas, Ohio, Carolina, Georgia & Florida.
I'll compromise & do a list of top five players in the class by each state...
It's an ugly wall of text, but I think that's all of them @Foe:
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Gonna go make dinner now :D
That’s an impressive list.
It’s going to be brilliant if the raiders move to Vegas is focused on tourism which is now absolutely fucked.
Casinos are probably struggling too.
Vegas mayor was on CNN saying they'd offer up Vegas to be a guinea pig basically to see if people did really die if we stopped doing social distancing, so.
“Fuck it then, plough them into my casinos and let’s see what happens”.
That man is on the take.
Woman, ironically.
Christ. Although fair fucks to her. Can imagine that state is a world of corruption.
Just realised that the draft starts at midnight tonight & tomorrow :moop:
Got it set to record and got tomorrow off work.
Looking forward to the virtual carnage.
Is this one of those things where it "starts" at midnight but the first pick is at like 3:45?
Seem to recall last time there was a good 90 minutes of coverage before the clock started.
Surely with everyone at home on a big Skype call, they will just get right into it? Still in work so will see how long I can hack it tonight.
They'll still find an excuse to fart about because ad money.Quote:
Originally Posted by thommo
Mine said 2 1/2 hours of coverage for one round and since we have 3 picks I can't even fuck half of it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
We have zero picks and I’m still very excited.
Well, I mean, you could because it's one of the dullest things going.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
Then just read the results, watch any videos of anything actually entertaining that happens and win.
2.5 hours for one round is less than 5 minutes per pick which seems incredibly optimistic.
True. If I recall the time limit is 3 minutes between picks once the clock actually starts. If the clock ACTUALLY starts at say, 8pm, the draft would technically have to conclude by 9:36pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Browning
Since they have the allotted time from 8:00pm to 11:30pm I bet it'll be something like...
8:00pm - 9:00pm : Pre-draft coverage and interviews
9:00pm - 9:15pm : Stupid fuckin montage videos of the top 3 prospects
9:15pm - 10:45pm : Actual draft, cause some picks won't take the entire 3 hours but they'll have a bunch of commercials and shit
10:45pm - 11:30pm : Live REACTIONS! and bullshit.
Oh man it's 3 and 1/2 hours i typed that wrong initially my bad.
Bengals will be put on the clock almost instantly and the timing is 10 minutes for the first round.
The seventh round is 4 minutes.
Damn really?! Where the hell did I get 3 minutes lmao
Realised my
Draft selections were stupid. Had both the raiders and Vikings double dipping on wr so sorted that (with cbs).
Also dropped delpit and threw Jordan love to the saints. Imagine Brees leaves next year and Payton has a mobile qb battle between love and hill.
Yeah, it's going to be 5hrs, easily. I'll stay up for some of it but not sure I can survive the whole night.
Sky has actual draft listed at a 1am start. Settle in for the long night lads.
Oh fucks sake, of course they still have the anthem.
Dan taking the knee online in this day and age is brave.
Boo that man.
Adverts before they even put the Bungles on the clock ffs.
Taking a knee on the American healthcare system knowing it'll have to pay to get patched up afterwards :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Finally off & running. Hopefully the virtual draft means people don't fuck around dragging out the clock & just get the pick in as soon as it's made, but I won't hold my breath.
They brought back the elite level ESPN 'Burrow goes fishing' graphic :drool:
Someone check on Bruh.
Well I for one am stunned.
Holy shit, it wasn't Shane Falco.
Okay, let's start the draft now.
Oh shit, Lions are sticking & picking :uhoh:
I really think the Lions should have traded down.
They could have taken Okudah at 6 easily if not a little lower.
Gotta have someone to trade with. Seems like Miami & LAC are both willing to sit & let the other one be the one to trade up, so should be interesting to see who Miami takes at 5 now. Also lots of talk of Atlanta trading up aggressively, so maybe not worth the risk they find a way to get up to 4 - Jags & Panthers could both have been in play too.
Dave Gettleman is on the clock now :drool:
1:45am and they're 3 picks in. Guess I'm going to have to catch up with a lot of it tomorrow then.
In fairness, that's normal pace, it's just they dragged it out for an additional 15mins before starting the clock.
There's a tiny voice in my head saying 'what if the Saints trade up for one of the three receivers?', and I don't know whether I'd be good with that or not.
lol, they took the wrong fucking tackle.
Took the worst tackle :D
Judge & Gettleman both sitting in almost empty offices :D
Andrew Thomas is a surprise, but he's a stud. He's absolutely a great pick.
True but I thought it was starting at midnight. Had earmarked staying up for the first 16 but that's not going to happen unless we get some quick selections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Please don't let this be Herbert.
Tackle (hoping that Tua slides) or Herbert here.
Shiiiii.
Tanking for Tua :drool:
#TankingForTua is finally full circle.
:thbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Now let him be healthy.
Herbert as a top 10 QB? :drool:
Where's Falco?
Yep, this has been pretty chalky so far.
God fucking dammit we're going to have to play against Isaiah Simmons twice a year :moop:
Embrace it.
Oh shit :D
Well that's not much better. At least it's only a DT, but he's a beast.
Would've expected Simmons, then Henderson, but Brown makes so much sense - they need help on the line, and Matt Rhule is a huge character guy, so he'll be a really nice fit for them.
Cardinals will scoop up Simmons gladly here.
I can't wait to watch them do Kyler/Isabella/Simmons races in practice.
They're fucking coming this season. That division is going to be a war, aside from the Rams, who will probably take six kickings at this rate.
The number of people going 9/9 on their mocks so far must be at an all time high this year.
Cleveland insta-picked :D
I stupidly switched Okudah and Panthers at the last minute and I had Giants taking Simmons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Also, I doubt many had Thomas as the first tackle.
Wirfs or WR here for Jets I think.
Had them the other way round on my 'board', but these are the best two tackles in the class. Only thing is he's played RT all his college career, so will be interesting to see how quickly he adapts to LT - sounds like the people at Alabama think he can do it fine, and if so he should be a quality starter.
Jets must be jizzing themselves to see two OTs & all three WRs on the board.
EDIT: Nice to see Kittle practicing his promos for his post-NFL run in WWE.
lol at Jets going down the Combine route.
Well, I guess that's Chuma Edoga kicked to the curb after a promising rookie season.
EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot they'd switched GMs. Of course the former Eagles guy spends his first pick in the trenches.
Bucs/Brady will love Wirfs.
Becton is a rather large gentleman. No chance someone that big should be running at all, never mind that quickly.
Al Davis getting that pick in from beyond the grave.
AL DAVIS LIVES!
That's arguably the biggest surprise of the draft so far.
:moop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
He'd be disgusting on the 49ers, to be fair. Next three picks are Lamb, Wirfs & Jeudy in some order, surely.
Lol at Ruggs sitting around the house in an Old Spice gown.
Gotta get a shower in before you get drafted.
Lamb Niners, Wirfs Bucs and Jeudy to the Broncos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Bucs want Wirfs.
Bucs trading up one spot is bizarre, but must mean that someone else was trying to come up ahead of them. No reason to trade the pick otherwise, surely. Either that or San Fran threatened to take him themselves if they didn't pay them.
Dolphins could well have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I've got them taking Ezra Cleveland with their next pick. Wirfs would have been a major upgrade and they have the capital to play with.
Shot putter hype :cool:
I wonder what it would cost to trade up ten spots...
Holy shit.
They fucking love spending first round picks on the D-Line.
Oh fuck, I've just remember how bad every offensive line in the NFC West is :D
RIP the Eagles btw.
Fans desperately hoping that Lamb or Jeudy would drop to them instead one of them will (likely as Falcons don't need a WR) fall to the Cowboys.
RIP DaeSean Hamilton :(
Dallas apparently really like Chaisson. OH HOLY FUCK HE COULD FALL TO THE DOLPHINS :alan:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Yeah, that was the one I was thinking.
I had him mocked to Dallas actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Mike McCarthy sitting two inches away from his camera.
Eagles fans breaking quarantine to riot as we speak.
Cowboys needed someone for when Cooper decides to go missing.
Such a Cowboys thing to do. Fuck the Cowboys.
I had Ezra Cleveland over Jackson.
I knew we'd immediately get the bone marrow story.
The Raiders will host the 2020 draft? Err...
Mayock fucking up again.
Wow, Las Vegas is going to host the 2020 draft!
Double wow, Damon Arnette!!!!
That's the surprise of the draft so far, obviously. He's a nice player, and there was a small bit of first round talk about him for a week or two a while back, but I don't think anyone will have had this one on their mocks. He's got some character issues too, which seems to go against the whole philosophy from last year.
I wanted Jefferson before the draft started. Given what's happened it's disappointing not to see a trade up to take Lamb. To now have to see him in a Cowboys jersey is doubly bad.
Jags have taken Chaisson so we have a great shot at one of Murray/Queen.
Chaisson & Josh Allen rushing from opposite sides :uhoh:
Can't wait for the Eagles to take a lineman.
In JJAW we trust.
Oh and Jags have missed the boat on Ngakoue.
Fuck knows how little they'll take now. Should have snapped the Raiders hands off at 19 as that was by far the best they were ever getting for someone who so clearly wants out.
I'd have gone for Jefferson or Mims over Raegor.
What the fuck was that.
He's a good player, faster than he ran & he's way better going up to get it than you'd expect for a small, fast guy. You'd imagine Jefferson to Minnesota now given they just showed him on the phone.
I'm starting to get anxious about the Saints' pick now :uhoh:
Vikings > Eagles.
Chargers and Pats have traded.
Chargers coming back up, presumably for a tackle.
I'd imagine it would be Josh Jones, but I guess Ezra is still on the board as well.
Queen and Murray still on the board for Ravens :eyemouth:
Aged well :moop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Saints will take Queen now the bastards.
Wowee.
Well this has been a shit show. Bed time. And most importantly now more than ever, fuck the Cowboys.
Always and forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Oh shiiiiiii.
Patrick Queen please.
Oh. Okay. I guess that's Larry Warford off then.
Niners coming up now. Sounds like it's for a WR - Mims?
Queen still there.
I can see Dolphins taking Swift, Seattle Gross-Matos and then leaving us Queen.
Man, that offence is going to be impossible to tackle. How the fuck are you meant to cover them when they go Kittle, Aiyuk, Deebo, Hurd & Bourne, then keep switching Deebo between WR/RB & Hurd betwen WR/RB & TE?
Dolphins should just take Josh Jones & load up to protect Tua.
Packers will take Queen now surely.
Fuck.
lol.
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I'd LOVE to see Aaron Rogers' reaction.
I have no idea why they traded up to take him too.
Fifth year option, init.
Favre -> Rodgers -> Love and we go on about the Patriots being blessed with elite QB play for decades.
They had the 30th pick though.
Or did they keep that when going up?
Oh yeah, forgot about that :D Guess it must've been a defensive trade to stop someone else getting up instead of them (Colts maybe?)
Seahawks sticking & picking almost as big of a surprise as the Damon Arnette pick.
Thanks Seattle you absolute mentalists.
Patrick Queen, Gross-Matos or Mims I think for us.
I prefer Queen.
Good old Seattle :D
When all the talk of him getting into the first round started we should've known it would be the team that nobody can ever predict.
McKinney could also be in play.
Although I do like Chuck Clark a lot.
Gotta take a guard to replace Yanda...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I think if Ruiz was there we'd have taken him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Queen though :cool:
Queen is going to be MEGA in our defence.
I wish Baltimore would draft like Seattle one year.
What the fuck is going on in Mike Vrabel's office? :D
Think we get our first RB here with Swift going to Dolphins.
Yep, saw that one coming.
Dolphins going to fully embrace The Patriot Way by trading this pick back three more times.
Didn't see that coming.
I'm amazed Goodell actually pronounced his name pretty well.
Yeah, that's a surprise considering who's left on the board. Very Patriots-esque on reflection though - they love coverage over pass rush, so why not keep stockpiling CBs, and if you're loading up why not grab one who's an elite athlete?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I had quite a few corners going in the first but not this many.
Gladney is such a Vikings pick. Him, Kris Boyd & Mike Hughes is the scrappiest CB room you could ever find.
Can the Chiefs just not make a pick?
Oh, you can absolutely just fuck right off.
Chiefs like a certain type of RB.
No safeties (Simmons doesn't count as he can play everywhere) taken in the first round.
That was a fucking crazy pick.
Good crazy or bad crazy?
I mean, is love going to see the field soon enough to pick up his option not on the blind?
I guess they’re assuming Rodgers plays for two and has a shitter enough that he retires or is benched on the 3rd?
Also loved the Texans pick. The best move BoB has made as GM.
A horrendous crazy pick. They're basically writing off the next few years given the holes they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
What's worse is that they traded another pick (a 4th rounder) to move up to select him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
He was going to be there with your original pick.
Yeah, I've not seen anything about why they felt they needed to trade up for him yet.
You imagine two more years of Aaron, assuming he doesn't throw a paddy & demand a trade, then one year of Love before they're pretty much forced to pick up his option.
His cap figure is pretty damned big for the next 3 years so you kind of assume he's there The next 3. 2022 will be an interesting year as I'd doubt Rodgers would give up his starter role or want to sit as backup, and the cap hit is $17m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Unless the GM has wind Rodgers fancies retiring in the next two years, it seems they jumped a year or two early.
I actually thought the saints would take him, given brees flirted with retirement.
I had to check to see if anyone had mentioned that as it happened... what the fuck was happening in there?! :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I thought it was a 2nd rounder. It's bad but not as bad as I thought. Could still pick up a decent receiver in 2 maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
The only reasoning I've seen is the assumption on some Twitter feeds they were afraid of the Colts taking him, but he's not even that good a prospect is he? Like the fanboys need some reminding that this isn't a first overall pick falling into their lap like 2005.
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Imagine if you got Herbert instead #kappa
I hadn’t even noticed the ‘pooping’ bit until I checked Twitter a few picks later. It was more the first time they cut to them & everyone just stayed completely still for the entire shot :DQuote:
Originally Posted by thommo
He’s frequently put in the Mahomes bucket - athletic, big arm, makes plays off script, not afraid to be aggressive, but needs to sit & learn how to be an NFL quarterback in terms of consistently, discipline & processing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
It’s really unlikely he ends up as good as MVPat, since it turns out he’s actually got an elite football brain, but like Mahomes you’re pretty much relying on the coaching staff & the veteran QB in front of him (lol) to get him to where he needs to be.
Two years of good coaching, a meaningful amount practice reps & actual helpful mentoring from Rodgers would do him wonders, but if you throw him in as he is it could ruin him. Will be one of the more fascinating players to watch in preseason for sure.
Hoping for a WR (Higgins, Mims or Pittman ideally), an OL and edge rusher today.
We have 4 picks tonight.
I wanted Higgins to slide :(
Ugh.
Kerryon must be fucked.
Interesting start to day two. Patriots love a stable of RBs, so might be the same in Detroit.
Oh boy! Didn't see that one coming. Wonder if we're going to see a massive run on safeties & running backs this round.
YEET. Him & Brian Burns on opposite sides is pretty spicy.
We're flying through the picks so far.
Funny that they were bigging up Robert Hunt repeatedly from the moment the show started. Almost like they knew he was getting picked this soon :sherlock:
Oh man, I like Marlon Mack but the thought of JT in that offence is pretty nasty. Traded up in front of the Jags to get him too :cool:
What does this mean for Marlon Mack?
Also, I'm not sure I like a RB who has had a million carries in college.
Can someone please leave a WR for us?
Well that's Fournette's replacement sorted.
Hang on, don't Chicago already have eight TEs on their roster? That's not even an exaggeration :D
That's number 10 apparently.
Trying to emulate the Ravens.
I'm also happy that Kmet is gone as we'd have had trouble turning him down I feel.
Delpit looks thrilled that he's going to get juked out by Loomar.
Delpit could be fun. Gotta think Bucs will take JK Dobbins here, but I guess i could always be Hot Rod.
Can't call it a missed tackle if you can never get close enough to tackle them :thbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Aww, man, I like Winfield :(
Broncos are just hoping that Lock can stay up with sheer willpower to get it down the field.
Yo, Hamler & Jeudy on the same team is stupid. I can't wait to watch people try to tackle either of them in space.
They're going the 49ers way - throw it five yards & get seventy yards of YAC.
Marlon Davidson & Grady Jarrett :uhoh: Just as well we have an elite line & just spent our first pick in the last two drafts on quality pass protecting interior linemen, I guess.
Seahawks pick :drool: Surprised Taylor went this early, but should be a nice player.
Ahead of Baun and Epeneza though?
Falcons wouldn't use someone like Baun the way you'd need to for him to be worth the pick, and probably felt they wanted an interior guy rather than an EDGE guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Steelers to take Hurts or Eason, please.
I meant over Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Oh, well the answer for any confusion regarding the Seahawks draft picks is 'because Seattle Seahawks'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Not sure what to make of the Claypool pick really.
Amazed the Bears didn't take another TE.
CeeDee & Trevon Diggs is a pretty strong first two picks for Dallas.
Yet they'll go 8-9.
Epeneza, Baun, Mims or Ezra Cleveland for us I feel like.
Woof.
What?!
Akers is both a great pick & a hilarious one.
WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED WITH PHILLY THOUGH?!?
I don't know what to feel.
Epenesa off the board :(
I had a feeling we might taken Dobbins.
We don't need him but he is a weapon.
I don't know why but I had a feeling that might happen. RIP Gus the Bus.
We like Gus as a change of pace type guy but clearly they don't see him as being a featured running back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
That's an interesting one from Miami - big name player but would've thought he'd have been a third rounder.
Really need to hit it out of the park with a Guard or Center in our later picks though.
Rams taking another Cooper Kupp.
Ezra, Brian O'Neil & Garrett Bradbury has to be the most athletic LT/RT/C combo in the league.
OL for this pick please.
No TE.
Trade to the Pats :drool: Baun & Fromm would be the stereotype picks, or maybe a TE.
Jets must be thrilled to get Becton & Mims.
No Fromm.
Boooooooooo.
Uche should've been on the radar, in hindsight. He was getting worked out as a hybrid 3-4 OLB at the Senior Bowl & was shutting people down in coverage.
No one is taking a shit at Vrabel's tonight :(
That's the CB equivalent of the DK pick last year. No way he's a late second round calibre player.
ESPN have got to back the fuck off with all the death - every second prospect has had someone die that they immediately feel they need to tell us about.
I bet there are contingents of the Eagles & Packers fanbases that are setting fire to their shirts right now.
They clearly need another runner to go with Jones and Williams.
Also lol at take Willie Gay this high considering his issues.
Chiefs don't give a fuck about off field. Sounds like most of the Gay stuff (lol) is academic rather than him being a bad person. Obviously breaking your QBs jaw isn't a great look, but the talk on him was that he's a good kid otherwise & interviewed well. He'll inevitably be a multi time All Pro now he's in KC.
Panthers trading up for a Matt Rhule alum, surely? The real question is will it be Matt Hennessy (the better player) or James Lynch (the guy he RAVES about)?
I disapprove of the Panther draft so far :uhoh:
They're having a great draft.
Very smart stuff from them.
A linebacker who can play coverage? Not a very Bengals pick.
Ah, fuck you Washington, I wanted Gibson in NOLA. Did they announce him as a WR or RB? Didn't pay attention to what they said. Sounds like WR from the analysis, but he'll do both either way I guess.
Announced as RB.
Why does everyone hate Zack Baun? Gotta love the Okwara reunion though.
Jets getting ready for when they trade Jamaal Adams.
I think G or ending the Baun slide for us.
Baun, Cushenberry & Josh Jones still being available is a big surprise to me.
All a viable option for us.
Justin Madubuike it is.
Didn't think we'd go DT there tbh wit the options there.
Dolphins LOADING UP on defensive backs.
Cardinals getting a steal there. Doesn't have to start if he doesn't need to, since they have Marcus Gilbert, but he could be a good RT for them.
Great pick by the Saints.
Oh, well that's not something I saw coming, to the point where when I mentioned Baun I nearly said 'can't see any way we'd take him'. We're not the typical defence you'd fit him in, but I guess we're pretty willing to mix things up so maybe we'll get some good use from him, but at worst he should be a nice linebacker for us.
Lions taking Jonah Jackson is a pretty good pick too.
Okay Tampa, that's the way you went at RB, huh?
I think we're into the bit where it gets pretty boring now. Not many flashy names left at this point other than the QBs.
So much death in the draft.
Bowden being announced as a RB is interesting.
And as I say that Lynn Bowden gets announced as a running back. That's an interesting one. Raiders looking like another YAC offence with Bowden & Ruggs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Ruggs, Edwards, Bowden, Renfrow & Tyrell Williams is a pretty decent group of receivers.
Gerald McCoy, Dontari Poe, Trysten Hill and Neville Gallimore...
Broncos are just crushing this so far.
Damn, I was hoping Cushenberry would drop to us.
If Lewis can stay healthy that's a great pick.
Greenard is a nice pick for the Texans. Patriots coming up again...
I see I see.
Bill always picks some left field choices.
Duvernay :cool:
That's Gus & Snead both replaced then.
Packers are having a shocker.
I saw a lot of round 7 grades for him.
OL please.
Straight up, that might be the pick that has surprised me the most (other than Jalen Hurts, obviously). I even had a half second pause where I went 'hang on, do I know who that is' it surprised me that much.
HOW DO YOU HAVE SO MANY PICKS?! Feels like Denver & Baltimore have made fifteen selections between them so far.
No. Stop it. You're not allowed to end up with two guys who could become quality starting LBs.
Hmmm.
Getting very athletic at linebacker.
The Clemson Raiders :cool:
PATRIOTS TRADING UP AGAIN!
It has to be Fromm and not another strange pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Nah, if they wanted a QB they'd have taken one several trades ago, surely?
Another mental pick it is.
Eagles selecting a player who couldn't play Football from Friday night until Sunday night because of his religion is quite lol.
Man, I guess athletic hybrid safeties are the new hotness.
Oh, come on, stop trading up. It scares me every time.
The best TE is finally off the board.
And thank you for taking him just before the Ravens. We must have been getting itchy seeing him slide so much.
Thank fuck, I was worried it was going to be Jacob Eason :D
He'll be a project, but some people had him as the best TE in the class (but then everyone agrees this TE class is historically awful), so hopefully he'll take off now he's not being coached by a science teacher
And there's your big, nasty guard.
A guard \0/.
Just discovered that we have no more 2020 picks now. Can't wait for us to trade away half of 2021 tomorrow.
I wouldn’t know enough about any players to form too much of an opinion, but taking a QB and RB in the first two rounds when you have Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Jones, Jamal Williams, and the worst receiving group in the NFL is horrendous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Like Giggles I don't know muchabout the players individually but we've done a lot to help Drew lock so far AND signed a player whose first name is McTelvis so A++ so far.
Just listened to the press conference Howie did to explain the Jalen Hurts pick & I’m convinced they drafted him with the intention of trading him in a few years time.
Yeah, it’s a pretty tough situation for
Hurts. He’s getting well paid to be a backup without any real chance to become the starter unless wentz gets truly crocked. He’s basically just trying to build some tape so he can get a shot elsewhere.
It’s a cynical way to draft and won’t exactly fill hurts with confidence hearing the organisation describe him as an asset.
I think the patriots will stick now, Fromm and Eason aren’t that different to stidham at this point so unless they get them really cheap I think they’ll just take a pass on qb this year and roll with Hoyer/stidham or take a 1 year punt on one of the free agent veterans.
Two brutal qb decisions for the two guys who could’ve ended up on teams with a view to being a starter in 1-2 years. As it is, neither are likely to be starting qbs until year 4 at best.
Bengals up & running with ADG.
Had to give him away in the end. Which one of Staley, McGlinchey & Williams has to play guard/swing tackle though?
Wonder if Staley might've hung it up.
Was actually going to watch some and Game Pass have blocked it.
Plenty of streams on YouTube/Twitch.
Bleacher Report (likely to tip the picks before they get announced)
Brett Kollman
Mark Jarvis, one of the premier providers of prospect cutups on YouTube
That Franchise Guy, creator of the most popular Madden roster & part time PFF grader
Redskins immediately grab their Trent Williams replacement in Saahdiq Charles. He loves the weed, but he's a good player.
They’re not streams of the actual thing though. They’re just lads in their bedroom talking about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Hoping for more WR, IOL and pass rush love for us today.
No, really, the Clemson Raiders. John Simpson now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Darnay Holmes to the Giants is a steal, even if they have drafted a billion young CBs in the last two classes. Another branch off the Patriots tree though, so I guess we should've expected it.
True. ESPN coverage has been horrible though, unless you love hearing about which members of their families have died.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
:harold:
Speaking of IOL. I was hoping Kindley might fall to us.
Biadasz to fall to us please.
Georgia guard Solomon Kindley to Miami & UCLA RB Joshua Kelley to the Chargers.
Donte Jackson & Troy Pride is the fastest CB pairing in the league - both legit 4.3 guys, not that that really helps you much when you're trying to cover Michael Thomas, Julio Jones, Mike Evans or Chris Godwin.
Ah, it’s on SSMix.
That smoothie Ben Bartch took every day is disgusting.
Fotu to Arizona is another good pick, Harrison Bryant to Cleveland is interesting given they have two TEs (maybe Njoku will be traded), and Ben Bartsch is a nice developmental pick for the Jags.
DJ Wonnum is a nice pick - would expect to see Minnesota trade up a few times or else they'll be on the clock all day.
If Albert O ever decides to play as fast as he tests that's a great pick. Already played with Lock in college too so should be an easy fit for him.
Not particularly scared by the Mykal Walker pick, to be honest.
Broncos better hope that Lock can stay off his arse and make throws.
LAMICAL NO!!
Stuck behind Le'Veon Bell is not the future I wanted for you :(
Jonah Jackson, Frank Ragnow & Logan Stenberg is a nasty interior line for the Lions.
Does sound like Staley is retiring.
Finally a QB goes - I guess you can't do much more for Jacob Eason than give him Rivers & Brissett to learn from for a season or two.
Staley expected to retire.
Colts are gonna be Eason him in...
Get out :D
Cowboys are having a really nice draft here, annoyingly.
Cowboys are really going to go into the season with Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Xavier Woods and Darian Thompson as their safeties? Yikes.
Can't wait to see us take Fromm now.
Or... is there anyone called Jalen left?
James Conner wins big from this, I'd say. McFarland is a really talented player but he's not going to beat out Conner as a lead back.
Jalen Elliot, safety from Notre Dame is the one I can think of that's likely to get drafted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Even better yet, is there another QB named Jalen in the draft?
The factory needs more product.
Good pick that for everyone. Eason under absolutely no pressure to play and colts get a cheap look at a qb.
Pats are going to get Fromm in the 5th or 6th aren’t they?
I’d actually quite like the falcons to take him.
Just had a look at Dane Brugler's draft guide & there's a QB from Prairie View A&M called Jalen Morton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
James Morgan going before Jake Fromm :D
I'm sure he's right at the top of Howie's board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I think it's really interesting to see the order the QBs are going (I just realised Anthony Morgan is also still on the board). Seems like athleticism is getting more & more heavily valued by the league, and all the traditional pocket guys are falling out of favour as starting options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
What the Heck, Houston?
Eagles actually made a pick their fans will love. Saw a lot of people asking for him.
Well that's neither a QB nor a Jalen. Riot.
I've changed from the NFL/ESPN coverage to Bleacher Report. The NFL one just talks about too much shit and is way too far behind.
Yeah, NFL Network/ESPN never give a fuck about the day three picks, they just talk about the round one guys & all the big pre-draft storylines.
Great pick at 129.
:sherlock:
Mekhi Becton & Cameron Clarke are going to pave open holes you could drive a car through.
Seattle planning on running 5 TE sets.
Falcons are doing a great job shitting it up on day three.
We're coming up.
I'd love Biadasz or Amik Robertson.
Kevin Dotson is a very Pittsburgh type of lineman.
BleacherReport on Brycen Hopkins: "He's never blocked anyone in his life, even on Twitter"
:D
No e. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Eagles might just take Fromm at the end of the 4th too, because fuck it.
I do that every time :moop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
AFC West is going to be loaded next season.
Call the cops.
Isn't Bryce Hall too slow for the Chiefs?
lol. Someone gave Bleacher wrong info.
Instead they do get a speedy CB.
How on Earth have they grabbed Troy dye and James lynch?
Lol, Sikkema unintentionally triggering all of draft Twitter :D Chiefs actually took L'Jarius Sneed, who is absolutely fast enough for the Chiefs.
Amik is such a Raider. Him & Jon Abram scrapping with everyone :drool:
Raiders take Amik :(
Guard it is then.
Happy.
Looks like a mean run blocker.
DeeJay Dallas is a nice fit for the Seahawks.
Bleacher are slamming the Eagles for the Driscoll pick.
Cowboys with a steal.
Stop it Dallas :moop:
Payton looks rough as fuck.
Didn't even notice Khalid Kareem & Shane Lemieux hadn't gone yet.
Chargers getting their Travis Benjamin replacement in Joe Reed.
Kenny Robinson :cool:
Robinson & Chinn is a nice safety duo, especially when you then add in Tre Boston on top. Matt Rhule going hard on defence with his first draft - I guess they did go mostly offence in free agency though.
Matt Breida to the Dolphins.
Ooh, Brieda to the Dolphins is pretty fun.
RIP the stream :D
Taking a tackle with the pick is strange.
Jake Fromm UDFA
At least Eisen isn’t on this. He’s been really annoying since he decided he’s black.
Bryce Hall is big for the Jets.
NEW ENGLAND WHO IS THIS MAN?
First guy I've not heard of.
https://i.imgur.com/p065W9Q.png
Doesn't even look like a great kicker on paper.
Bill has really phoned this draft in.
Hadn't even attempted a kick over 50 yards until this year? The percentages are pretty typical for a college kicker, but given the lack of long range kicks that seems a bit lower than you'd like.
Also I think that completely rules out Fromm to NE.
They wouldn't take a kicker over him if they thought he had potential.
Goodwin to the Eagles.
I'm seriously wondering whether Fromm will go undrafted at this point. I was out on NE a while ago, and Chicago trading up to take Trevis Gipson was enough to convince me they're not interested either. I'm still expecting someone to take him at some point, maybe in round six, but I'd be looking at Minnesota as the most likely one yet.
Eagles definitely adding speed with Goodwin to go with Jalen Reagor. Curtis Weaver is a nice pick for the Dolphins too.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
:uhoh:
What's happening with Fromm. I'm sure I remember reading that he was a potential first rounder at one point.
He's not a good athlete, he's good an average arm & he's not as accurate as you'd believe. Even with all that, though, he should be long gone - he's got great intangibles & football IQ, and he's good enough as a passer to be a functional starter in the right spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
Not sure anyone has any reason why he's falling, other than teams just not valuing that type of player at all anymore.
And there he goes. That's a really odd one, actually.
Financially At this point it doesn’t really matter. The difference in salary between round 4 and last overall is pretty minimal. 2.5 - 3.3million. Once you’re out of the top 2/3 rounds it’s almost irrelevant.
The worrying part is that teams clearly don’t really respect him as potential starter. There are anomalies as we all know, but it’s telling.
What’s weird is that josh Dobbs was what a second or third rounder? Mason Rudolph? Davis Webb? There’s been so many other dudes with a lesser resume given the green light by this point.
He looked pretty average last year, but he beat out Justin fields and Jacob eason and took his team to the national championship.
And well, chalk that one up with the hurts pick.
Ride the bench for three or four years son and pray for a miracle.
Like I said earlier, since guys like Mahomes & Loomar have blown up athleticism looks to have suddenly rocketed up the list of most important traits for a QB. Really feels like teams are just straight up not going to take anyone who can't play off script & give at least a bit of production as a runner.
Colin kaepernick and cam Newton say hello.
What’s happening with dalton too? Surprised the bengals haven’t tried to move him on. You’d assume burrow comes in as day 1 starter, or wee they assuming he’ll need to sit and take over when Andy shits the bed.
Nobody wants to sign Cam for zero draft picks, and they didn't want to pay a top 150 pick for Jake Fromm, so they're not going to trade for Andy Dalton & his $17m cap hit.
We clearly want to stop Henry this season.
Another run stuffing D-Lineman there.
Another good pick for Denver. Surprised Strnad last this long, but I think he was injured so maybe that's why.
EDIT: Yeah, torn bicep.
And another good one for Dallas.
@Ian you'd better be grateful for this draft class.
Have the Panthers taken any offensive players yet?
WE'VE GOT A LONG SNAPPER :drool:
He's not the one most people would've expected - Steve Wirtel from Iowa State is the other one who's likely to go - but he's the brother of Reid Ferguson, who snapped at LSU before him & currently snaps for Buffalo.
Chargers taking another safety? Alohi Gilman is good, but when is he ever going to play for them? I guess they'll have a fucking good special teams unit with him & Drue Tranquill on the squad.
DPJ to the Browns could be a good bargain. If nothing else he'll be delighted to learn what it's like playing with a quarterback who can hit the field with a pass.
Another kicker - Bass was the one generally expected to go first, so now we're just waiting on whether Hot Rod gets drafted or not. Also surprised Braden Mann hasn't gone yet.
EDIT: There he goes. All the special teams positions getting someone drafted this year (possibly multiple of each by the end). Would definitely not be surprised to see a handful more guys go before the end of the draft.
I presume that’s a son/nephew of the Jon Runyan?
Yeah, his son.
:sherlock:
Fourth guy is Carter Coughlin from Minnesota, so expect him to be their next pick.
I'd like James Proche if he's still there with Ravens last pick. Although I can see us going secondary.
Everyone would like James Proche.
Eagles just loading up on speedy WRs with their day three picks :cool:
Timed well, we just traded up.
Proche \0/.
You motherfuckers.
Well that's pick 1.02 in the dynasty league sorted then.
What a draft from EDC.
If the players turn out to be good in the NFL in 3 years time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
:drool:
Well obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
But on paper it's tremendous. We've drafted 2 well thought of MLB's, a potential starting RB, some great D-Linemen, O-Line help and WR help.
Bar safety we've hit every single one of our needs. There's a reason all the draft experts are raving about our draft this year, obviously it can all fall to shit but you can't judge that now.
Still no receivers :harold:
Another random player for the Patriots in Cassh Maluia.
I can't even find much about outside of a small write up on NFL's website and a small profile from his College.
That’s the whole point right? If you stick to your guns and the cards fall right you look
Like a genius. If you deviate because “best player available” you get hammered.
See the eagles / packers. In three years time the gm might look back and pat himself on the back for keeping around a qb. Nobody will thank him for that now, and if he doesn’t develop then it’ll follow him around that he wasted chances with one of the best around.
Baltimore are win now so easy to just go stringently with filling needs and on paper, job well done.
Jordan Mailata & Prince Tega Wanogho as your developmental tackles :drool:
Colts traded up to get ahead of themselves, as they also have the next two picks :D Turns out they traded Quincy Wilson to the Jets for the pick.
EDIT: Pleasantly surprised to see Freddie Swain get drafted. Kept flashing when I was watching Florida games.
Bengals have done a really good job rebuilding their linebacker room - Markus Bailey is a steal in the seventh round if he can stay healthy.
Oh come on Baltimore :moop:
We needed a nice safety :)
Seems that some outlets had a second round grade on him.
That's a bit strong, since he's not really going to offer much in coverage, but definitely 4 or 5 would've been fair.
Will be interesting to find out why Eno Benjamin & KJ Hill ended up falling to the seventh, as they were two more guys who would've been expected to go in the 4/5 range.
COLE MCDONALD TITANS STARTER 2022 BOYS :drool: He'd better spent the next two years growing the dreadlocks back though.
Another specialist off the board K/P Sterling Hofrichter. Syracuse about to get specialists drafted in back to back years (I think their kicker Andre Szmyt is eligible next year)
James Smith-Williams is an interesting late pick, and Ben DiNucci had some last ditch buzz as a guy who might get drafted, so that's cool. Still no Anthony Gordon or Nate Stanley though, which is a big surprise.
PFF scouts absolutely love him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
They had him 53rd on their big board.Quote:
Good luck finding anyone other the PFF to have Iowa safety Geno Stone in their top 10 safeties, let alone in the top five where we have him. He’s not only the most underrated defensive back in the class, but the most underrated player regardless of position. As PFF draft gurus Mike Renner and Austin Gayle have preached, Stone had unreal instincts — he reacts quickly and is quick to make plays.
Over the last two seasons, Stone has produced the third-best PFF coverage in the FBS. He’s been responsible for minimal big plays downfield and he made more plays on the ball (11) than first downs allowed (9) while also allowing the lowest yards per coverage snap among safeties (0.25).
Prince Tega Wanogho? All is forgiven.
Little BoPete :cool:
Enlighten me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
I like the sound of the top picks and am generally a "wait and see if they're any good" man but I know you love this shit so I'll humour you.
I'm assuming given this is another post we've picked up some players later you consider to be steals?
Oh shit, we've traded back in.
Err...what? Are we planning on using two Taysom Hill's? That's a really bizarre one.
Did you know that his Mother died in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
Where would we be without ESPN's lovely light draft experience?
Game over, no receivers.
They need someone for the Taysom Hill role when Taysom Hill takes over from Drew Brees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Although this season will be fun with Brees, Taysom Hill and Taysom Hill 2.0 all on the field.
Thanks :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Strnad & Muti are both good players who fell due to injuries. If they were both healthy they could easily have both gone on day two. That line could be really nice now - Risner, Glasgow & Cushenberry are all good interior guys who could play all three spots, and if Muti's healthy you can use Risner to cover pretty much the whole line, or just let him compete with Bolles to start. Not sure who your swing tackle is, but that's seven really good guys to roll with at least. Not sure there's any real holes on that offence at this point
EDIT: And then two more to round it off. Tyrie Cleveland is an intriguing player - big & fast, will offer kick return value & straight line speed to go deep. Derrek Tuszka popped up at the Combine & looks like a good developmental pass rusher with some nice bend & hustle.
I will be stunned if he makes the roster. I'd probably be less surprised if Brees retired before the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
If we wanted another Taysom Hill we should've just waited a year & taken Sam Ehlinger, who actually could be a good fit in that sort of role. Hell, we could've used Malcolm Perry, who just went to Miami.
EDIT: RIP Hot Rod :( He's not getting drafted, is he? Fingers crossed he's Mr Irrelevant.
If Thaddeus Moss isn't drafted I reckon he'll be one of the first UDFA that we target.
And Mr Irrelevant is...Tae Crowder. So yeah, irrelevant.
The UDFA scramble is underway - signings being announced already.
Lamar Jackson to the Jets.
Redskins have signed Thaddeus Moss.
:cool:
No word on AJ Green yet, but Bill Murray has signed with the Patriots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
Hot Rod to the Colts is perfect.
Gutekunst still hasn’t even signed a UFA receiver.
Oh. Shit.
Has Rodgers spoke yet? I’d love if he didn’t play again and demanded a trade.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l0Iy5R...aSRy/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
They've picked up Michigan State WR Darrell Stewart Jr, according to the TDN tracker. Not exactly an inspiring addition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
TDN have already switched their simulator to 2021, so have a way too early 2021 mock :drool:
Patrick Surtain is yet another one to make me feel really old.
Asante Samuel Jr & Michael Irvin II in the class too.
Whose tanking for Lawrence then?
Nobody, seeing as it will most likely be someone else by this time next year.
Nah. Unless he gets injured he’s #1. We’ve known that for 18 months.
Justin fields could run him close in that case if he does Kyler Murray type stuff again this year.
Nobody has a clue yet really.
We always think we know but then a year out nobody predicted Mayfield, Kyler & Burrow going #1. On the other hand, the really elite prospects like Andrew Luck were called from way out, and Trevor's getting that level of hype, so if anyone's going to be able to go from start to finish as the undisputed #1 pick it's probably him.
#TankingForTrevor
He's one of, if not the highest graded high school player ever and has continued that hype right through into College. The only game he's ever lost was the final game of last season against Burrows LSU.
He'll be number 1 so long as there's no injury.
That taysom hill extension :saywhat:
Taysom Hill has completed 7 passes to Saints players in his career so far.
Jameis Winston has completed 10.
What’s the best site for UFA signings? NFL.com does them by player rather than team.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ing-nfl-draft/Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Not sure how fast it updates, but seems good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
The Draft Network one above is more up to date than that but hasn’t updated much all day either.
Ha.
https://walterfootball.com/draft/UDFASigningsByTeamQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
This one is sorted nicely but again, slow to update.
They only have about 10 or so listed for the Ravens but we're up to 20 now.
Still only one receiver in that Green Bay bunch. Not that it’s likely any would make it, but he has to be trolling Rodgers at this stage.
Waiting for him to seethe off, before spending his cut wages on weapons for Love.
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/n...2020-nfl-draftQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Two running backs and a QB though.
Just what’s needed.
He’s not wrong.
Dalton released.
Patriots bounds I’d guess for something like $5m 1 year deal
Nah, they signed J'Mar Smith as a UDFA so they don't need him.
They’ll trade for Rodgers.
Yeah, if we're honest this is only going one of two ways:
1. Patriots trade for Aaron Rodgers, he plays into his forties & they win 1-2 more SuperBowls before he retires
2. They stick with Stidham, have a bad season & draft Trevor Lawrence/Justin Fields/Brock Purdy/Trey Lance/other, who becomes a superstar & they have another 10-15 years of winning
Bet jameis Winston is regretting all those picks now.
$1.1m to fight it out to be backup to drew Brees (and you’d assume he thinks he has a chance of being the heir and licking up a much larger contract next year).
The crazy one is either signing for the Ravens or he’s just heard of them. Who knows.
He's been angling for us to sign him for a while but I don't see it at all.
Since the Ray Rice thing we've been making sure that we don't get involved with bad character guys and we just drafted two guys that we are very high on.
Dalton to the cowboys.
That's some backup to have.
“This has nothing to do with dak”.
“Dak, sign our offer. It’s not going any higher. We have a more than capable backup option who’s going to be pushing you to start.”
Andy must really have wanted to get back to Texas. Fort Worth is about 30 miles from Dallas so guess he fancied going back to that area.
Katy is near Houston so surprised BoB didn’t fancy him as a Deshaun insurance. But then, that might be savy GM play.
Didn’t see that one coming.
The story on why we traded back in for Tommy Stevens is peak Sean Payton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Tried to get him as a UDFA but he’d committed to the Panthers. Matched their offer & he refused as he’d given them his word. Offered him ten times what they were paying & he stuck to his word, so Payton traded back in & texted him ‘I’m done asking, now I’m taking’ :cool:
"Winningest" :face:
Yeah that never looks right.
Big Frank Gore is back for another year :cool:
@Dan there's a guy moaning about a trade from 2 months ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-cheating.html
NFL star Earl Thomas was held at gunpoint by his wife Nina after she discovered him naked in bed with several other women, TMZ reports.
The shocking incident allegedly occurred in the early hours of April 13, when the Baltimore Ravens safety, 31, was confronted by his spouse at an Airbnb rental in Austin, Texas.
An enraged Nina allegedly pointed a 9mm Berreta at Earl's head, before he managed to wrestle the weapon away from her.
His brother was also in the bed.
Smooth move to bring his brother along to take the blame.
We've cut Larry Warford, which is both expected & surprising. Guess that's Cesar Ruiz slotted in at RG now.
Texans schedule is brutal first half of the year.
If the reports are true, deandre baker will not be playing again in the NFL.
First round pick too.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52675230
Up there with Greg Robinson levels of stupidity.
The Skins got a pick in return for Dunbar so they've accidentally donned it.
https://www.nfl.com/news/owners-to-v...ty-hc-gm-hires
When I saw the Tweet linking to the article I thought it was from The Onion.Quote:
If a team hires a minority head coach, that team, in the draft preceding the coach's second season, would move up six spots from where it is slotted to pick in the third round. A team would jump 10 spots under the same scenario for hiring a person of color as its primary football executive, a position more commonly known as general manager.
If a team were to fill both positions with diverse candidates in the same year, that club could jump 16 spots -- six for the coach, 10 for the GM -- and potentially move from the top of the third round to the middle of the second round. Another incentive: a team's fourth-round pick would climb five spots in the draft preceding the coach's or GM's third year if he is still with the team. That is considered significant because Steve Wilks and Vance Joseph, two of the four African-American head coaches hired since 2017, were fired after one and two seasons, respectively.
That’s fucking ridiculous.
No issues with the problem they're trying to solve here but that's not the way to do it.
Best man for the job.
The way society is worried about a lack of diversity in management of various organisations and peddling to public conception trying to resolve it is just horrifying when you actually start to understand what’s happening.
I challenged my companies regional VP HR on it and the way the message was being sent. Basically, they’re going to do whatever it takes to meet the quota they want. Fixing the process to ensure it’s a fair completion isn’t the end goal or acceptable apparently. The quota must be met. The NFL is clearly no different to that.
Person. But sure. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
It’s not womens football. Best man for the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
The selection process is already frequently borked in all organisations, it's just now in a way that many people are happy to pretend is fine because the "who's the best white dude?" policy works in their favour.
Hitting quotas isn't really the way to fix it but outside of the perception of swivel-eyed gammons the person is probably likely to be neither significantly better or worse at their job, it's just if they happen to be a meh woman or minority people will decide it's somehow TOKENISM that caused the person to not be as good at telling roidy meatheads to run into each other real hard.
They’re not long enough removed from all the slavery stuff to be rational about things like this I suppose.
The college teams need to do more.
How are minorities meant to get coaching jobs in the NFL (the bigger positions) with little to no experience?
NFL players sure do love guns - first we had Baker & Dunbar, and in the last couple of days we’ve added Cody Latimer & Ed Oliver (ffs).
Are any of those high end players?
Ed Oliver was a first rounder last year and had a decent first season.
I think I’d heard his name, and Latimers too. I just hadn’t seen a massive amount of coverage of it so thought they must all be backups.
To be honest I had Latimer confused with Lattimore. The former appears to be nobody.
Lattimore would be who I’m thinking of too.
Ed Oliver’s was pretty minor on the grand scheme of things the nfl would be worried about. DWI and having an unlawful weapon in his car.
Can imagine there’s tens or hundreds of thousands of those in America.
He’s an idiot, no doubt. But it’s not a “going to get released and go to jail” sort of event. Might lose some guarantees in his contract though but he will have already been paid about 70% of his contract value anyway.
Looks like there was an attempt to bring in the 4th and 15 alternative to the onside kick. I believe it was trialled in the pro bowl last year? Or in pre-season. I forget which.
Looks like it's failed as it is, but they may re-work it.
Pity. The onside kick is a waste of time.
I’d be on for going the whole hog and having an option of 4th and 20 for all kickoffs.
I see Brees is a card-carrying member of the "b-b-b-but the TROOPS :cry:" wanker brigade.
Pity.
EDIT: Oh, and Fangio also tried a "no racism in the NFL" gambit and had to apologies after presumably being harangued. :face:
Malcolm Jenkins telling Brees to "shut the fuck up" is a highlight from the backlash.
Very typical of the sheltered white guy not getting the problem because he's never had to deal with it.
Brees is getting a pasting by everyone, including teammates:
Even big Rog' is waking up, even if he recorded it with a potato.
Yet when someone (Kap) peacefully protested he got them out of the league as soon as possible.
That's the single most disingenuous statement I've heard in long time.
Multiple Cowboys and Texans have the 'Rona.
Only player confirmed so far is Zeke.
Think Texas in general is seeing a big uptick again. :(
I forgot that they were pro-nonce.
The Patriots have signed Newton on a 1 year deal :harold:
Pats have also been caught filming the Bengals sideline and fined $1.1m and docked their third round pick next draft.
Why film the Bengals though? You want to find out just how shit they really are?
Several major sponsors are putting big pressure on the Redskins to change their name.
FedEx, who sponsor the stadium have. Nike have withdrawn all references to them on their website and searching them comes up with no results. Pepsi have also joined in.
They've always insisted they will never change it, but I don't see how they keep it now.
I dunno why they haven't done it before now when they could have taken credit for how progressive they're being. You achieve nothing by having to be bullied into not being a bellend.
They were also planning on buying the site that the RFK stadium is on in Washington but the owners have said they'll only sell if the name is changed.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/a5/d3/57/a...es--movies.jpg
Hopefully they become the Washington Sentinels.
Are KC going to have to go the same way or is their native american iconography not racist?
They don't have much iconography do they? The arrow in their logo and the name itself is probably enough to fuck them once the Redskins are out of the way though.
The Cleveland Indians will probably be the next sports team into the flogging chair though, they're not too far removed from having a man dressed as a pissed Sioux as their mascot.
They’re going to “review” like the Redskins are. Whatever the fuck that actually means.Quote:
Originally Posted by John
A review means they're definitely doing it but they want to work out how to spin it as best as possible because "We caved to pressure" isn't good PR.
Have the Chiefs said they're reviewing too, then? If they have my Google-fu is failing me.
No, the Indians.
Ah, okay.
Aye, nothing yet, but KC must be the next cab off the outrage rank. Then the Browns. Then the All Blacks.
Wowzers.
This could be an utterly groundbreaking deal. Imagine if he's getting 20% of the cap every year, fully guaranteed :drool:
The Kansas City Mahomes as of next week, clearly.
If it's a base amount he's an idiot.
If it's a percentage of the salary cap he's a genius.
$450m with $140m guaranteed.
I think he'll regret that in a few years when the needle moves and he'll quickly drop out of the top 5 for AAV.
He can just hold out then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I mean, call him an idiot if you want. But he’s getting nearly half a billion in income before sponsorship etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
I know some of these guys egos are enormous and they all want to be the highest paid, but seriously. Go buy a country or something and chill. He’s good.
Look at Brady. I’d take the few extra rings over a few million on top of my already multiple millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Unless there are clauses that allow him to re-negotiate after X amount of years or whatever I think it's a bad contract for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foe
Taking it at face value (as we don't know any sub clauses etc) it's $450m over 10 years. Assuming he'd have signed a 5 year deal he'd have then been able to sign a larger deal for the next 5 years.
Obviously idiot is strong as he's still raking in money and perhaps he's decided to give them a slightly friendlier deal to help the team but in terms of pure money it's not the right move.
Wasn’t just Brady doing it though right? Loads of guys were accepting reduced rates to play on a winning team.
If they’ve got that guy firing at QB they can throw lowball offers in there at players to test their will to win.
Best backup QB job in the business too. Not real risk of the franchise drafting a QB so they’ll either just churn out 3-6th rounders as developmental projects to trade or have Brian Hoyer’s regen holding the clip board for the next decade too.
It's a better deal for the Chiefs than it is for Mahomes.
I just can't see a way in which a guy potentially earning $450m before sponsorships etc is bad in any way.
Sure other players may overtake his per season amount in the future, but it's a great statement of commitment from both sides.
But he DIDN'T WIN THE NEGOTIATIONS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
All seems to be differing stories anyway.
$50.3m AAV is a much better deal for Mahomes with a thick amount of it guaranteed is nice too.
I assume there is also a clause to re-negotiate after X amount of years.
There's no way he gets the full $503m then.
He might as well just retire.
What does he need to achieve for this to make it worthwhile for them? The stats don't really advise blowing your load on a QB's second contract anyway, do they? I know it's hard when they've been beasting it but this is really fucking going for it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/53327285
They really need to cut him for this.
I love that his defence is basically "Hey, I just repost any old shit."
Another contract LOSER.
https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-wr-w...oney-do-i-need
He’s also worth fuck all since his injury, so I’m sure that helps.
https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-redu...-less-than-14k
Ravens are reducing the stadium capacity to around 14k this season in light of Covid. However, 62k season tickets have already been sold.
And college football games starting to get axed.
In conference only in the big ten.
Be interesting to see how that would play out for the playoffs if it was unanimous. An all SEC round robin would be quality.
It would still just be Alabama,Clemson, Ohio State & one other.
Not that we’ll even get conference games, if we’re being honest. American doing a great job of totally shitting the bed on this.
You reckon bama will top the sec again?
Lsu lost burrow and many others.
Georgia lost fromm
Bama lost tua, Ruggs and jeudy
It’ll be closer, but they’re still the third best team in the country, and as long as they don’t lose more than one game they’d probably be able to get in on reputation over some lesser teams.
Confirmed the redskins are no more.
No new name yet. South Park will need to re do the episode.
Mixed reaction it seems.
Load of bullshit but this is what happens when the idiots take over.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/14/ka...-play-incident
There are three fairly long parts to this but it's a good read.
Antonio Brown “retires” again.
Thank fuck for that.
There had been rumblings that we might offer him a contract.
It took Washington a week and a half to come up with "Washington Football Team" as their interim identity? Somebody's being paid too much.
Antonio Brown has decided he wants to play again.
Someone needs to find out who was keeping him medicated at the Steelers all those years and get them on the Covid vaccine team.
A local businessman got ahead of them and trademarked pretty much all similar sounding alternatives and names they may think of taking. Likely he's now demanding a big pay out to hand it over and the team is refusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Smart thinking but hopefully they use none of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gray Fox
I think they might. They seem insistent on keeping links to the history of the name and team. For example they aren't changing the jerseys even slightly.
I'm pretty sure that sort of behaviour is fairly apocryphal, I don't think you can really do it, as it's clearly acting in bad faith.
Yeah those things often get overruled don't they? Because money if nothing else.
The Washington Red Bulls.
It doesn't look right.
https://i.imgur.com/X7g3iIr.png
I do like the Alamama style helmets though.
https://media.nbcnewyork.com/2020/07...m-mockup-1.jpg
That is a hefty amount.
Some Chiefs lineman has opted out of the season. Not sure if he’s a starter or not but he’s apparently a doctor also. Won’t be the last.
He's one of their starting guards.
He wasn't very good last year though.
Interesting to see how coaches and team brass take that. Basically giving up your spot on the team. Good PR message if they can use it as a sort of loan deal.
The jets Adams trade is a bit spicy. Flared up some heat within the jets and interesting theory they’re building the capital to take a punt at Trevor Lawrence (unlikely I’d say).
Even with The Moustache, it's hard to see anyone out-shitting the Jags this year.
It would be a good season for someone like the steelers/colts/broncos to have an absolute meltdown.
On paper the jags have a real struggle, but never doubt the shitness of the New York teams, Detroit and Ohio teams.
The MLB looks to be starting rather un-smoothly.
De'Anthony "Black Mamba" Thomas - Ravens starting KR/PR
Chance Warmack - At the Seahawks but a long shot to play, didn't play any games last year
Maurice Canady - Cowboys backup CB (was at Ravens and Jets last year)
Danny Vitale - Patriots starting FB I guess, signed from Packers but NE don't play much with FBs
Caleb Brantley - Backup DL for the Redskins.
New names to have opted out of this season.
Joey Bosa gets 5 years and $135m for his troubles.
The Covid list is growing quite rapidly now.
Patriots will be fucked as they have not only the biggest names in Dont'a Hightower and Patrick Chung opting out but also the most so far.
Belichick's probably worked out some advantage to it.
Nate Solder has opted out and Lane Johnson has Covid.