Every country has the ability to trigger Article 50, no?
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Every country has the ability to trigger Article 50, no?
The people who jumped ship recently have formed into an official party in case European Elections happen. They'll be called Change UK which sounds more like a freeview channel than a political party.
Fivehead Raab letting himself down by the sounds of it. Bill Cash for leader.
I would have thought you preferred Francois.
He is a bit of an idiot, so Raab was the best hope for taking the party in a Proper Brexit Man direction. He probably still is, but in that case why not just hold out against voting for this wank?
Big fan of the comeback of the word 'charlatan' now Boris has popped his head in.
Spoiler: May lost the vote.
The circus rolls on.
Am I right that this means she couldn't even get half of her deal through?
If that's the case, even I now think she should quit.
The MPs themselves need to man the fuck up and admit that they're not remotely interested in leaving and that in all reality there will be no specific circumstances in which they'll actually vote to do so.
The only way to get it through would be to put all the directions they voted no on last week to referendum with ranked choice and it'd be a fucking catastrophe so you can't do that.
Aye, it's dead in the water now. What'd be really fun is if we go the EU to revoke and then the EU members can't unilaterally agree it. :D
Setting up interviews with books clearly taken off your bookshelves to make you seem smart is enough to know Raab is straight in the bin
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Aye.
I'm a calamity when it comes to storing books and even I don't have them like that.
How would you open and close the blinds without removing them?
D-d-dup!
Fucking capital letter rule. That should be the first thing to go when we CRASH OUT.
Worse than vermin, I tell you.
This protest has a flute band. I could have been in Westminster today as well with a work thing. Fuck.
lol at all the hand-wringing over poor old Dominic Grieve. I think people have genuinely taken it worse than all of the Labour constituency shenanigans.
I saw a story yesterday about how a group of tories have decided to label themselves 'One Nation'. After last weeks Grand Wizards outing, is there any group in this lot that haven't decided to get naming inspiration from a racist movement?
One Nation Toryism has been around for decades and is far better known than whatever that is.
I hear 'One Nation', I think of the Aussies.
More than decades. It pre-dates Australia. Unfortunately, these days it just means Labour with (self-certified) claims to competence, so as the Labour Party pulls itself leftwards the Conservative fannies are bound to follow.
I know Americans make fun of the level of attractiveness that we allow on TV but come on now, that haircut is doing her absolutely no favours
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That's a woman? She looks like John Oliver
Which one is the woman?
No to everything again.
:D/:face:
What's the deal with the (I guess) abstentions? Is that soft whipping from the government to keep junior party bods with an eye to their future inline or are an alarming proportion of MPs simply not interested in what is apparently a defining issue of our times?
lol out loud at Nick Boles spitting his dummy, the absolute tosser.
What's Guy Fawkes up to these days?
Other than trolling on Twitter, obvs.
While it is nice to think that it's political intrigue, I'm going to back cowardice.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
The government are mad. What are they, 50 switchers short for their deal? They are 2 switchers short for a permanent customs union but now they want to go back to the deal. Mega-flaccid Brexit is the only way of delivering Brexit and may enrage the hardliners, but no Brexit and no deal Brexit would both enrage half the country.
It's self-defense and nothing else. For any politician, picking a side is a mugs game in this cluster fuck.
Aye, but it's a slightly farcical situation (or maybe not so slightly) when you've got the government getting more votes for their losing plan, than the one that is apparently going to replace it. There should be some sort of compulsory voting for these divs, what the fuck is abstaining all about? I get that you can spoil your ballot paper on an individual basis (although the effort to do so has always seemed a bit mad to me) but I don't see how you can do the same as a representative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Remaining in the customs union is literally the shittest possible way to not-really-leave the European Union. They know that though, so then they would start gingo 'Oh well, we need to join x, y, and z as well to get the full benefits of...', and then six years later they're yearning for a 'seat at the table' and we join the single currency as Cuntville.
I'm feeling really smug about my (if leave won) 'Everything will be exactly the same, we just won't have a seat at the table anymore' prediction is bang on all these years later
There might be some pairings, but 40 odd would be a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
The ridiculous thing is that much like May's Deal, all of these things they are talking about are literally what no one wants. No one who wants a customs union really wants to leave, and no one who wants to leave wants to be perpetually entwined within the framework of EU law. If there was another referendum then literally no one would be making the case for these things, but it's where things are heading until someone has the courage to propose the remain v no deal referendum needed to 'settle' this.
'Confirmatory' (wtf?) referendum: 572 votes
Customs Union: 549 votes
Common Market 2.0: 543 votes
'Parliamentary Supremacy' (again what the fuck?): 483 votes
Is that out of 625 (630)?
Something's not right.
5 Lib Dems abstained apparently, which seems mental, and there seems to have been quite a lot of Labour abstaining on the more 'progressive' stuff.
The only thing left is to just leave. It wasn't 'Leave, provided...' By all means attempt to 'get the best possible deal', but if you can't, then we still have to leave. Otherwise we never will.
I know no one gives a fuck but I find this shit so enthralling now. It's like "The Will of the People vs. The Will of The Government" part 1418902481094, sure, but I'm dying to see how it plays out.
Whatever happens, the people, particularly the ones who voted to leave, probably lose.
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Originally Posted by Lewis
How can they keep coming up with more moronic ways of approaching this? I know they really don't want to leave, but handing control of the process over to the people you've spent four years abusing as unfit to govern strikes me as something that will likely backfire on the Conservative Party.
Right, Jeremy, we really need to sort this to avoid leaving without a deal.
Well, Theresa, the thing is . . .
I've said all along that Seamus and Jeremy are bang up for no deal, and I bet they still are.
He'll refuse to talk to her and we'll go round again for another turn.
I think she's doing it to show that her deal really is the only option. She knows full well that that idiot won't have the remotest clue of what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I feel like Voting Against The Deal is going to become some weekly parliamentary ritual that lasts long after we're all dead and nobody can be arsed going on Wikipedia to remember what its origins are.
If they actually wanted an answer, they'd run the votes via STV.