Bad time for malarkey
Bad time for malarkey
Which numbers are supposed to be the most recent ones?
Biden on top.
Is he having a stroke in the second video?
Quite possibly.
I dont understand how Biden is seen as the most viable moderate.
Bloomberg pissing away $700m is bloody dark.
Imagine if that money was spent on voter registration outreach instead of feeding his ego.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Depressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernanke
I see people saying it would fix Flints water?
Bloomberg has spent more money on this than the total spent by all UK parties on all elections in all of history.
Fucking hell probably add in us as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Warren would fit in nicely within the QLD Labour party.
Trump is giving great commentary on the Democratic primary. Lol
Trump 2020
lol at all the healthcare company stocks going up on the back of a Biden win on Tuesday. Definitely nothing to see there. Nothing.
Of course they would, Biden's not appealing to get rid of insurance and uproot the healthcare system. For the worse, sure, but idk what kind of conspiracy you're trying to assume now?
I wonder how much African Americans 40 and up in the South having a living memory that the New Deal (or any other massive government program) didn’t actually apply to them affects Democratic politics.
To be alive at the end of the new deal you'd have to be 85 which is 10 years older than the average life expectancy. So I'm going to say, not many of them.
But your parents or grandparents were. The house and neighborhood you live in was shaped by it.
I bet they just see the party RADICALISM as the sole preserve of wealthy white retards.
I've never once heard anyone reference the new deal.
fuuuuuuuk
The moderate Dems have done a good job of consolidating behind a candidate, just a shame that candidate is Joe Biden. I think we're in for four more years of Trump. The man can't speak and you're going to have a lot of the Sanders crowd (maybe more than in 2016) who refuse to take one for the team.
Meanwhile Elizabeth Warren is a total disgrace.
Lol you have to love the left, so quick to eat their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
The counterfactuals are all over the place. You've got some people claiming that only Bernie could beat Trump and some saying that only a well-"respected" moderate like Biden could beat Trump, and I genuinely don't know which is the case. Biden would probably do better in the swing states, so I'd say him. The kids at Reed who'll probably protest by throwing pig shit at him at a rally are unimportant
Lol you would have hailed her as a saint if she caused Biden to be non-viable in a few states, but instead she's to blame because Bernie apparently haven't been able to expand his base beyond 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
From the outside looking in Warren lining up behind a moderate and not a fellow progressive does seem a little cunty.
What moderate has she lined up behind?
Biden. She has no path to victory only staying to split the progressive vote. I would say the same of Bernie if was in Warrens position.
She will be rewarded with a cabinet position.
Anyway Trump v Biden debates will be hilarious.
Stop getting your political knowledge from CumTown and Chapo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
https://i.imgur.com/aAeYwsw.jpg?1
I lolled.
:D
Im more of a gullible twitter mong these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
https://twitter.com/biden4pres
This is the best parody account since before that Big Sam one let it go to his head.
That account got me good a few times on the bus this morning.
I'm not saying the online Bernie crowd are acting in bad faith but watching all these people get mad at Joe Biden telling a guy who's shouting 'BUT MUH AR-15' that he's full of shit is incredible.
He offered him outside. He's clearly got dementia and thinks he's 25 again.
Pretext: Joe Biden is a terrible candidate that will lose to Donald Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Response: People like candidates who both threaten and/or enact violence against their opposition. John Prescott literally punched a voter in the face and his approval went up.
"You are actively trying to end our Second Amendment right and take away our guns," the worker told Biden.Biden replied: "You're full of sh**."
"I support the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment — just like right now, if you yelled 'fire,' that's not free speech," Biden continued. "And from the very beginning — I have a shotgun, I have a 20-gauge, a 12-gauge. My sons hunt. Guess what? You're not allowed to own any weapon. I'm not taking your gun away at all."
"This is not OK, alright?" the man said, to which Biden replied, "Don't tell me that, pal, or I'm going to go outside with you, man."
"You're working for me, man!" the worker said.
"I'm not working for you," Biden said. "Don't be such a horse's ass."
Swap names and exactly the same things happen in inverse. Media would try kill Bernie and Bernie Stans would say he's straight talking to a Gun Nut. Instead Bernie Stans are saying 'Can you believe Joe Biden shouted at a union worker in Detroit?'
I would like to repeat that Biden is going to win the nomination and lose to Trump. Again.
Swap names and the conversation doesn't happen like that.
Are you intentionally trying to miss the point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
https://i.imgur.com/Jpz91LP.jpg
:henn0rz:
Bernie staying in the race for the next debate. :drool:
:lol:
No reason, just remembered it and started laughing.
He literally has the power to do that and refuses to do it because his big business buddies don't want the government telling them what to do.
Is America stupid enough to let him survive this?
His approval rating is higher than it’s ever been, so yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Disco
I doubt many of them will be left come election.
Amazing.
Always saying the quiet part loud.
I know there is a lot going on, but the wall-to-wall coverage of this shonky rape allegation against Joe Biden is surely imminent.
Primaries still going mate. The moment Sanders concedes it'll be the only thing you see for months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I suspect it won't be.
Trump, after declaring he knows South Korea better than anybody, appears to have gone on to spout a figure where he or a "researcher" has confused the population of Seoul with its height about sea level.
Sanders ending his campaign apparently.
Let's see!Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Who you voting for @bruhnaldo?
The rapist.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
It's a start.
:lol:
Washington Post article on it today.
Told you, so so predictable.
We're less than a month from Trump calling him 'Touchy Joe Biden'
They've covered it now, and actually done some journalism to undermine her claims. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Let's talk more about AOC.
She sounds like a big fan.
I'd do anything she told me tbqh.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/986519...31858906894824
Is there any way to embed videos from Facebook?
:D
If you thought Trump didn't like CNN just wait until he sees these Chyrons :D
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThvUMAEmXag.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThwVAAEcSk4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVhMThwUUAAUzHr.jpg
It's taken them 3.5 years but maybe they're finally learning?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9471946.html
He's a fucking maniac.
I think this will be his legacy, or I’d like to think so. When thousands were dying he was going crazier and more irresponsible than ever.
I've no idea how he remains in power. Are people listening to him and breaking the lockdowns?
Well this is completely normal...
https://youtu.be/JK3ePiaPU7E
Because Americans are thick cunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
All the protests are funded by right-wing billionaire 'public interest' groups. It's so dodgy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Are the states he's calling on the kind he needs to swing an election win?
I doubt he would’ve won an election pre-corona, but now it’s pretty much guaranteed that he will
Will win? You're mad. Cast iron cert to lose the election. He'll hold the Republican states, but the swing states will fuck him hard. Don't really rate Biden, but a black Mexican would beat him at this stage.
I thought he would easily win this time round, but now who knows. Joe Biden is as demented as the Donald, and I wonder whether the fact he's had to shut himself away during all of this will sink him. If they had picked (or had had the option to pick) somebody younger they could have been out and about calling him a dickhead, but instead he's at home trying not to die.
Id imagine Sanders campaining for Biden in swing states should compensate for Joe's sundowners.
Think he'd have a chance tomorrow, but by the time the election rolls around he'll be finished. He's desperately trying to pin blame for the US covid outbreak elsewhere, but the "miracle" etc quotes and trying to open up the economy too early are going to finish him once there's 100k+ dead Americans.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
My gut at the moment says Trump will lose. I think Biden is an underrated candidate, he turns out all the people who will never voice their political preferences publicly but vote every cycle (aka the anti-Bernie). People forget how narrowly Trump won in 2016, against a far worse candidate.
How many alt left weirdos wont vote for Biden?
His approval is the highest its been during his whole presidency. It literally matters not a single bit what he does or says. It’s like how Bush’s popularity shot up to like 80-90% right after 9/11 and as a result Cheney had the ability to do whatever he wanted for a few monthsQuote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
What a country.
I look forward to Prime Minister Piers Morgan in 5 years time.
He can win if he campaigns on Coronavirus. Trump has royally fucked it and is seemingly intent on making it worse so some gimps in Michigan will vote for him if they live til November.
The great advantage of not having a presidential system is that morons like this have no route to the top without doing the hard yards first. Piers would have to pick a party and alienate half the country, no way he would risk his snake skin doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
He'd make his own. The IT'S COMMON SENSE (ICS) party. With common sense policies for common sense people to burn down straw men of their own creation.
Cuomo's nicely exposing him as a political lightweight at the minute. Top man. That deconstruction in response to Trump's tweet the other day was decent.
If China were offering a vaccine Id bow to Xi Jinping.
I'd blow Xi Jinping.
China is the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
The future's going to be unrelentingly shit then.
Bend the kneeQuote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Unhinge the jaw.
Yúkuài dìQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I'd stand doing the wanker sign fifty feet away out of squinting range.
It is a lot of fun siding with China down here atm.
Atm would be a step too far for me.
Within Australia it is fine Im sorry if it doesnt travel well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
In fairness, for the good of us all someone needs to put a bullet in this cunt sooner rather than later.
Quite funny how one or two weeks ago or something he was lecturing journalists about how terrible it is here in Sweden and how we're suffeering "very very much" or whatever he said since we haven't done a lockdown.
Reading a paragraph of a Wall Street Journal article which praises himself :D
Also love how he spends 10 minutes explaining the high death count is because of their large population but also spends 10 minutes raving about the test count which is more than [inserts ten random countries] COMBINED.
The Q&A delivered tonight. Top class.
That link doesn't go anywhere.
Maybe it's a metaphor.
Soz, mobile link as it was intended for The Group.
So good. Having watched the geezer daily for not even a week, I can definitely see the genius of him. Literally puts you under a spell. Only further disastrous waves can possibly stop him but he's donned all on this one.
Pelosi snacks on ice cream. :D
It sounds like she actually lives on it. There must be something in it to say she's about a hundred and fifty.
Imagine Donnie's Big Mac stash. :drool:
That picture of him presiding over that fast food buffet is one of the all-time great political pictures.
It's hard to beat the guy at the start who blames Obama for not being in the oval office 7 years before he was elected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzDhm808oU4&feature=emb_logo
why's he doing a political ad against Pelosi lol?
I assume you're looking for a better answer than "Because he's an insane old cunt"?
She's a big high profile democrat and it's easy to make her look out of touch.
Also, a twenty-four thousand dollar fridge? You would think diminishing returns would kick in pretty early on fridges.
They take your passport that you don't have if you don't own multiple fridges, all of them having ice machines.
That's why I'm barred from leaving the country myself, actually.
lol
Lmao they been making old white dudes out to be the devil for years and now it's going to royally fuck them :drool:
Within 10 minutes Trump has got the CDC director losing all credibility by clearly being fed Trump's words. It's a top class episode tonight.
This is a good geezer to follow too: https://mobile.twitter.com/ddale8
Oh I bet actual scientists love speaking to him.
"Hm. What if we scared the virus away with ghosts? Or turned everybody into werewolves, they can only be killed by silver so the virus wouldn't work on them. Or...."
He's in charge of the biggest army in the world.
Have we ever tried it though? I mean we could try it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
It's proper Angelsaint levels there. "Disinfectant? Inside the body? Research on that!"
It's a really interesting idea I had and we're definitely going to research on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
It was that he kept looking right at her for validation of his brilliant ideas and all the research they were going to do on it that must have made that especially fun for her.
Like somebody having to deal with their decrepit father. "Yeah dad, sure, we'll definitely be doing that."
He's basically your granddad who is just regurgitating stuff he's thinking. My nan does the same and then you challenge her and she goes "I've not gone to school, I don't know!" FFS STFU.
You all need to take the CNN shaft out your mouth. He's just here to present talent. He's here to present ideas.
NYT seem to have found 'some experts' that think it's a great idea going by that headline.
Some experts advocate bleach injections. SAD.
It’ll work.
The infection will be killed. Also the person.
Though presumably not in that order.
Can't die of Coronavirus if your lungs melt tapping-head.gif
https://spectator.us/joe-biden-tara-...-endorsements/
I love this sort of thing. :happycry:
digitally penetrated?
So that's what poking is.
The Spectator US is such garbage. They just hired the absolute bottom of the barrel of 'bad columnists who got a big gig because their dad is loaded'.
I refuse to believe "Chadwick Moore" is even a real person.
The menu system is also fucking hilarious.
https://i.imgur.com/o1s6qkM.png
I hadn't been on this site since practically launch and I'm considering a subscription just to read this article by 'Cockburn' about how sexy Prison Planet Paul is.
https://i.imgur.com/5ZHFWCv.png
I mean the quotes in the story seem real though.
I don't know anymore. Those menus...
He is a handsome guy which makes you wonder why he's such a fucking weirdo.
Imagine if Lewis never found this place and got his :D's from far-right nut jobs instead. This place is a public service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
Anyways it is very strange all of a suddenly the #MeToo campaign doesn't matter to these people.
Truthfully it's hard for me to believe these things so long after the fact myself but thankfully I am not a politician and didn't triple down on "#BelieveHerAtAllCosts".
:D
Lol
It's almost like these people, who only exist on Twitter, are full of shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by bruhnaldo
https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/06/b...exual-assault/
He must be pretty confident that most media outlets aren't going to you wot mate him at any point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1385&v=j-urfohXAOo&feature=emb_title
:D
Maximum scenes at 38:30 but you can choose any spot really.
Could they not have sorted a broadband connection for Sleepy Joe? That was what trying to stream porn in the early 2000s looked like.
Accusations of racism at Trump's treatment of that last question...fuck me, what is wrong with these fucking cretins? That Asian bird needs to fuck right off.
So I think he’s generally a giant racist, but comparing their response to China’s is a pretty standard Trump retort. Nothing in it for me.
"Maybe that's a question you should ask.....CHI-NA!"
The delivery was amazing. :D
Big time. She managed to make herself look the bigger mong in a conversation with Donald Trump which is quite the feat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Transition to greatness sounds creepy, it's got 'promoted to posterity' vibes about it.
:D
lol
What a King!
Using Keyboard Warriors as a good thing.
"It's cool, I'm taking it back!"
Really and truly, when you’re dealing with a person that’s so dangerous to the human race and in a position of such power, surely he needs to be taken down.
People are ready to believe the CIA killed Kennedy to furthe American interests, you'd think they'd have smuggled something into DJT's Coca-Cola by now if they were all that.
His head needs to be exploded as a statement.
:lol:
Fuck. I hope this kills him. Politically.
What a man.
Tremendous.
That Dan Scavino shit is so lame.
Him being a preening media bitch is the funny stuff.
This is primo hilarious Trump tweeting
(Plague!)
He phoned in live to the TV golf coverage earlier (fuck knows why) and chickened out of having a go at Rory McIlroy after the latter lit him on fire in the media the other day. Coward.
Giddyup
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-...arned/12277800Quote:
Joe Biden sorry for telling African Americans they 'ain't black' if they consider voting for Donald Trump
You need to wheel out one of your darker hued running mates for that shit lad.
Biden just shit himself on stream.
https://twitter.com/pineymcknuckle/s...186355713?s=21
:lol:
I like how there's a definite reaction from the other guy. :D
Careful, Donald. You don't want to get banned from twitter.
I wonder which social media platform he'd move to if they did ban him.
I'm thinking TikTok.
I'm thinking Friends Reunited.
Is Habbo Hotel still a thing?
What about the penguin one, is that still going?
Penguins are a bit black for The Donald.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52815872
US President Donald Trump will sign an executive order targeting social media firms, the White House has said.
It comes after he threatened to shut down social media platforms he accused of stifling conservative voices.
The latest dispute emerged after Twitter added fact-check links to his tweets for the first time.
:harold:
:lol:
Bernie Sanders is too good America.
If you start 'fact-checking' certain tweets then you effectively endorse everything that you don't, which opens up all sorts of platform vs publisher issues that they really ought to avoid.
He knows that his best chance of winning is suppressing voter turnout as much as possible, and this has given him the perfect chance.
We're fucked
Have to agree with Lewis. Either you fact check everything or nothing.
However it is Trump so I'm enjoying the temper tantrum.
Not really sure where I stand on the whole fact-checking thing but this is funny:
This is indeed a problem, but I think it's the lesser of two evils.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Trump incites hate and lies blatantly so boo fucking hoo.
Fact checking is the only way the internet as a whole gets better. Accountability for bullshit.
The whole country is such a fucking clown show. :harold:
such bollocks apologism JA.
:D I actually deleted it as you posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
The major of the town said the police did nothing wrong in killing the bloke...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernanke
Indeed. We all agree propaganda is a bad thing, right? I mean, we certainly used to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
I never understood America at all until a few years ago I did a spate of reading about the civil war, and suddenly it all falls into place, literally everything about the country springs from 1860-65, much in the way that pretty much everything in England springs from the industrial revolution.
An entire network of states were willing to put their young men up for slaughter in order to preserve the racially based slave economy, you don't come back from that in a mere 200 years.
If anything will change police attitudes towards your area/community it's a mass outbreak of lawlessness.
Yes they should be allowed to continue killing black people.
America is inherently racist even if it tries to be progressive.
Is this going to stop them killing black people, or is it just going to make life worse for the other black people?
No change.
Any sane person who watches that video of his murder understands why rioting is both justified and necessary.
The proletariat has been rioting for millennia and I’m pretty sure it’s never once worked out in their favorQuote:
Originally Posted by Don
Most times it doesn't, and the successful ones tend to have a bit more focus and scope than robbing consumer goods.
It's just human instinct to be riled up by that footage and rioting seems the natural outlet for it. Its success rate is something I'd need to study history to comment on but it's fairly clear it's raising awareness of the poblem at hand which can only be a good thing over time unless you're living in some dictatorial regime with no hope of change...
They should just carry on and accept the inequality and brutality in their society. It'll change eventually.
If my Tony Blair education is anything to go by, then NON VIOLENT PROTEST is the only way to bring about change.
In R.E., which by this time circa 2002 had abandoned all notions of having anything to do with any religion, we had to do a project on one of a choice of four NON-VIOLENT leaders:
- MLK
- Gandhi
- Dalai Lama
- Tutu
I was the only person in the entire year to choose Desmond, with 80% choosing King and the Asians choosing Gandhi, and that fact taught me a lot about myself.
I did like the person on Twitter who decided to correct Martin Luther King's son on how his dad would have felt about all this.
There are lots of things they could do between nothing and looting. If they still really wanted to smash things up they could attack government buildings, which would be a much more direct attack on their system, albeit one without a free telly.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/technology-52832791
Even if some wasteman's death didn't have me on the street, this would. Disgusting.
Drive-by tear gas on peaceful protestors. #MAGA.
Trump has apparently sent in the national guard and threatened to have them shoot people too.
Every in-group protects itself first, so waiting for police attitudes to change is to wait forever. As long as the public continues to let them and DA’s self police nothing is changing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Much more important for public attitudes toward both local politics and police to change.
And sure, research in the US indicates that the biggest mover in public sentiment During Civil Rights was non-violent protests being violently put down by the police. But kinda a lot to ask “really you see - John Lewis getting his skull cracked is your best political move.”
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...041BB2EFC3034C
But we were here just a couple years ago when peaceful kneeling at football games was too much. It is always too much.
Gone for three months, back to TTH. Good to have you back I guess, though i still don't really know what you're doing hereQuote:
Originally Posted by mikem
Was talking about this with some mates, the protests will take what would have been a huge boon for the public image of the movement - the video and the death - and turned it into a PR disaster. It's been absolutely awful in terms of public image. People will have gone from "fuck those cops" to "fuck the protesters, look at what animals they are". I know my mom has, and judging from how her brain works, plenty of white America too.
Bored, like everyone else. And I like discussing politics but everything is so stupid in the US now it is impossible. But I’ll be bored in two weeks.
And maybe the protests will if you thought anything was going to change in the first place. I think “the narrative” may be affected, but policy? Not so much. Policy likely won’t change cause we will all yammer on about the President and Congress who really have no power in any of this.
All of this is local politics: DA’s, sheriffs, police unions, and NIMBYism.
I don't think it's possible to protest in the western world without something being set on fire.
Well, people were protesting by taking a knee at football games. Pretty peaceful but brought about the same respectability arguments.
I don’t disagree with Mokbull except that I think these arguments always seem to surface.
Well, the cop's been arrested so we'll see where this leads. I can't imagine standing on his neck is deemed justifiable force.
Yeah but by TAKING A KNEE during the ANTHEM he was DISRESPECTING the FLAG and THE TROOPS.
Probably something something CONSTITUTION as well.
Is it just the one that actually killed him or have all four of the police officers been arrested?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Last I heard the Attorney General wanted them all charged but they were "TAKING THE FIFTH" and refusing to co-operate.
They say ex-officer but where all of them fired? The cop's defence will always be, "I was doing my job and my job is hard." There should be lines you don't cross, though.
Like kneeling on someone's neck. They're racist cowards who are untouchable.
Was this George Floyd fella known before this or just because of this?
Well, the kneeling bloke is the one being charged with third degree murder.
We'll see if he is found guilty.
He's been charged with third degree murder.
The cop has an, erm, interesting track record.
Assuming it's not a load of shit, obvs.
'[M]urdered Wayne Reyes, a latino man with 16 bullets forced into him' makes it sound like they shoved them up his arse.
The one thing I remember about the Castile murder was how completely out of his depth the copper was.
You wouldn't trust 90% of them to make a sandwich correctly, let alone give them guns. Absolute shit tip.
They're all absolute scum. NYPD being the absolute kings of that breed.
LAPD are bad but Rodney King forced a bunch of action within the force that never happened in New York.
I know nothing of US policing really, but in every video I see from there there appears to be a bigger them and us culture (propagated by their officers) than anywhere else in the western world.
Seems underlying health conditions was wot dun im.
How the fuck are they allowed (who is they by the way?) to reference potential intoxicants?
And it's happening.
The officer will be acquitted, given his job back and given a medal for taking a pesky black man off the streets within a couple of months.
It's not just the cops, it's the law, it's the courts, it's the system. The coroner is saying that the knee on his neck didn't kill him, heart disease did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
If you stole a candy bar, the cop shoots at you and kills a six year old bystander. You can be charged with felony murder.
While a police officer can drunkenly break into your apartment thinking it was their place, kill you for tresspassing in your own home and get off on qualified immunity. It's disgusting.
If you'd like to learn more about the absolute disgrace that is the US legal system I reccomend Mic Dicta, ALAB and FiveFour
Could you stab someone with hemophilia and only face manslaughter charges of they died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
I thought intent mattered?
He's being charged with intentional indifference. According to that, he had no intent to kill, he just didn't care if he died lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Well that's nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
What a country.
I was raised by civil rights lawyers who sued the New Orleans police department as a source of income starting in the late 60’s. So cops are scum and all that, but it is a little more complicated. One little known open secret is you can get a Grand Jury to indict anyone at all for criminal proceedings if the DA’s make a case. Except cops. However, the same case at a jury trial for civil damages? City will always lose. That means that for individual cops any punishment is normally handled through arbitration procedures set up on the municipal level. But the police unions have an outsized impact on these because the public doesn’t have the bandwidth for all the Byzantine nonsense. So cop gets in trouble - gets fired - gets a new job in another county or gets reinstated with back pay in a couple years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
But our policing in major cities got destroyed a couple decades ago due to quotas and three strikes your out laws that started in the 80’s and were codified in the 90’s. It changed policing on a fundamental level. Not so much a question of the easy “they are all racists”; the quotas and stats create incentives which makes the entire force systematically racist regardless of whether the cops are white, black, Asian, or Hispanic.
David Simon gives a good summary in this interview:
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2...more-s-anguish
I'm all for solidarity but at least spell the fucking slogan right.
https://i.imgur.com/sXJJ8hG.png
LOL Border Patrol have been flying a Military Surveillance Drone over the city.
What the fuck are they even doing there anyway?
International airport? So of course they have drones.
What?
There is an international airport, you are going to have border related agencies there. You will also have them as a regional hub because Canada isn’t too far away. Of course they are there.
The drone thing was a joke.
There's a lot of people that I didn't notice before, that Jimmy's list has now made me now pay attention to. He's right once again here.
They're supposed to operate within 100 miles of the border. It's 800 miles from Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikem
And again.
Some highlights from overnight.
New York:
Kentucky:
Meanwhile there's also a completely seperate Police Brutality protest going on in Kentucky where 7 people have been shot. Police claim that these all came from within the crowd but there's no evidence and if we take it at face vaue, the Police answering protestors shooting other protestors by firing tear gas at the protestors seems a bad idea.
The reason I'm not so ready to believe the Kentucky Police is because here's a video of them firing rubber bullets at news teams on their own for seemingly no reason.
Atlanta:
Been following all night and this is the only person in uniform to come out of this with any credit
Here's a couple of cool photos from Minneapolis from the day before.
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They have every right to riot and burn that shit hole down to the ground.
Do they? It's the same as the London Riots (except the London Riots weren't justified at all). They're attacking people and burning/looting businesses that had fuck all to do with the murder(s). They're ruining their own community.
Their rage is understandable, their response is moronic. I wouldn't condone the mass lynching of Police Officers, obviously, but if they want to actually make a point.....
Nobody wins.
They're protesting against a school Constitution that ingrains inequality with a white supremacist leading the country. The only thing they've got is protest.
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Of course you think they were.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
I was merely laughing at that stupid sentence, not laughing at what is presumably a semi-sensible viewpoint that you may be hiding behind it.
Killer Mike tearing shit up:
https://twitter.com/mentnelson/statu...118907904?s=20
The main thing about Mark Duggan is he did what Jean Charles De Menez did. He ran from visibly armed police. That's a sure fire way to get shot.
2 lines, both dumb in different ways. The cops murdered a guy and then planted a gun on him (not saying they were a-ok but 'not justified at all' is just ignorant). On the second line, are you saying that you think mass killings of the police would bring about more positive change for the community already constantly oppressed by the police?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
First point is that it is very hard to get killed by the police in the UK. There are issues with stop and search and a culture of racism within the force, granted, but one black bloke being shot should not lead to riots.
Point 2 was not that it would lead to change. Simply that it would atleast be kicking out at the right people.
We gonna need a factcheck on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
One annoying side note of this thing is people saying 'This is why you should vote Democrat/Trump caused this'
Isn't Amy Kloubachar from Minnesota? So there's a Dem in the senate. I think it's run by a Democratic Governor, and having double checked, the Mayor is a democrat and the city council is 12 Democrats and 1 Green Party member.
Ferguson happened under Obama and all the activists involved in that keep turning up dead in their cars and labelled a suicide. This is how America works. From slavery to Jim Crow. Put the masses in their place so they know their role.
Cops claim they shot him because he shot at them. Only bullets found were stuck in a coppers radio and the bullet was from a Police issued MP5. The gun they found on him was 15 feet away and Duggan had no evidence of gunshot residue. The polices story changed 100 times and still ended up making no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Why they did it I'm not sure but my only assumption is that someone involved in ordering the op was bent and covering up something. Or more innocently, the officer who shot first shit himself hence why he was removed from the firearms team shortly after.
They did it because he was running from the scene.
Yeah, no criminal has ever run from the police before. Makes perfect sense. Case closed.
That’s probably why they threatened to shoot the cab driver if he got out of the cab as well. They just see anyone move and it’s time to fire off some rounds.
It's more about protecting a scene at that point.
Yeah. That's why we have all these police shootings all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
If they shot him for running. Why did they say he shot at them. Guns are heavy, He was shot in the bicep, how/why is he throwing a gun 15 feet away in that moment?
Why is the police story so consistently inconsistent? Everyone saw 1 thing until they all definitely saw a completely different thing when confronted with evidence.
Look I know you don’t like me so you assume I’m thick but you do realise you just agreed with my point right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
All this to stop a guy doing a revenge killing of presumably some other low level gangster? It just doesn’t add up.
No idea. Not really fussed either. Just lolling at the implication that the police are routinely shooting at anything that moves.
I know it’s early over there And you might have had a few cans last night, so I’ll just explain it to you. That was (I thought pretty obvious) sarcasm in reply to Shindig saying anyone that runs ends up riddled with bullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Spend more time reading the post not the posters name.
If this is the case then please redirect my sarcasm to Shinners.
How's the basketball going, Phonics?
Fine, how’s the transphobia?
Non-existent.
Finally, some personal growth. Good to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Didn't have Kiko down as a basmati badman.
Kiko is the one good banker. Deutschebank aside but we all have one EvilCorp on our CV.
Pretty sure that's bollocks. He didn't know that he was mistakenly accused of being a terrorist and going about his day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
I'm still not a banker.
And Magic's not an engineer but we all have to live the lie.
Sorry, for some reason I thought he'd jumped the ticket barriers. Oof. That wikipedia article does not make for good reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Because once again that’s the story the police gave to the media before having to recant it in the face of evidence proving otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
I'd usually be inclined to see it as incompetence rather than wilful misdirection but, it happens to often it has to be intentional. Paints a really bleak picture about the whole institution.
Despite there being some very good coppers out there, a lot of old bill don't know the rulebook and get into it for the wrong reasons. That seems to be magnified in the US.
Can't get my head around kneeling on the neck of a handcuffed man and then fucking carrying on for over two minutes after he's passed out/died. It's murder for me, Clive.
I think it's simply the fun factor. That video I saw yesterday of five coppers in London wrestling/tazing somebody to the ground is obviously a non-starter if they're likely to have a gun on them, so then everything becomes much more confrontational.
He was testing his weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
Seems that they worked the security at the same nightclub for years...
Just watched the full video again. Nothing quite like it in terms of making your blood boil. They need to screen that shit every night before everyone is released out on the streets.
Just in case no-one saw this, Tony Yeboah turned up to support the people of Minneapolis.
Brilliant.
Columbus police just pepper sprayed their member of congress.
This thread is full of lots of very odd stuff. What is going on?
Overnight update NYPD going absolutely mental
A random man shooting someone with a bow and arrow and then having the shit beaten out of him?
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Swat knocks down old man?
Shoot explosive at journalists
Cop hitches a ride and falls off lol
lol at Anna Kendrick being the source, but this compilation is quite something.
Christ, so many fucking egos in one place.
Great post phonics. America is gone. Let's see how good the right to bare arms is when you are against dudes with tanks.
Their virus figures will be interesting in a couple of weeks. :face:
Maybe the curfew's balance it out. :D
Actually teared up when he started talking to the kid. Fuck.
I teared up far earlier when old man's uggs came into view.
Two fellas leaving it up to a 16 year old to sort this shit out.
Whoops.
This entire thread is gold.
DE-ESCALATE ON HIS DICK.
lol at Anonymous getting involved and shutting down government websites. :D
Hahahaha America is a fucking shit hole. Wonder if Mert will make an appearance to tell us how we're all cucks because our police don't randomly run us over.
Such a fucked up world.
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He routinely bragged about 'grabbing women by the pussy' and proudly said that he would fuck his daughter if she wasn't his daughter. There's not a chance he hasn't been involved in some seriously deviant shit.
Literally nobody involved has been owned by anyone but it's not a bad zinger I guess
What about that whopper with the bow and arrow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I stand corrected.
https://twitter.com/yosoymichael/sta...850476032?s=20
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Shout out to his family
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lol
This is why I go on about FranceQuote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
When all these ones go on about the imminent “collapse of the US”, what exactly do they mean? Is it going to be taken over by Canada or something?
I suppose all the states could declare independence. Would liven up CONCACAF if nothing else.
I didn't think this whole affair would lead me to have a genuine wank but here we are.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZVR5OzV...pg&name=medium
You had a wank to a petite girl? I don’t believe it.
It's a cracking scene too, but I didn't end up finishing on it out of respect.
I've never seen my Facebook wall or conversations with friends so single-mindedly focused on one topic. The events of the past few days have raised consciousness, raised the conversation and it feels like there's no going back.
It will be forgotten within a month.
The live streams have been mental.
Yep. Just like Sandy Hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Just like all news.
I still don’t know what people are hoping to achieve. If all of these riots are happening just so that Senor Chauvinist get convicted of the third degree, ok, but that seems pretty small-time. Think it’s more likely no one’s particularly hoping to achieve anything and it’s just a spray gun of anger
It's a mixture of people hoping to achieve a mixture of things. Some want revenge, some want change, some want a new 50" TV.
Spray gun of anger sounds like a cool weapon, to be honest. I want one of those.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKQaPowMQmU
Like, seriously. What complete retardation.
The thing that makes me uncomfortable is Brits and other foreigners attempting to grab their piece of what seems to me to be a distinctly American issue. I wish they showed such concern for oppressed groups everywhere and not just in the glamorous US of A.
No one gives a fuck about West Papuans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
So what do you think will change?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
My guess: fuck all.
Yeah, maybe if it was just his Facebook wall or his friends. But both? Strap yourself in.
:lol:
Problem is, it all focuses on "institutional racism" and (from an email I got from the Provost of Diversity Equity and Inclusion) "white supremacism (a system of white supremacy)." Since those basically mean nothing, you cannot fix them. What you would need to do is change policing procedures everywhere, and since over here every single county does whatever the fuck they want, good luck with that.
Institutional racism is the biggest red herring in the world. Maybe it exists, but it isn't the problem. It's a canvas that the political left try to paint the real problem onto, because it gives them licence to try and solve the problems in holistic ways that feel comfortable within their worldview.
The real problem is individual hateful racists - and there are a lot of them, acting independently of one another - committing acts of violence and abusing power.
The assembled tossers blaming the rioting on white people is a laugh. Obviously once you get your head far enough up your own arse you encounter the noble savage.
#Kony2020Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Yep. It's a question of trust. You only gain it if policing becomes something that takes a much softer approach. Less body armour, less armed weapons, less stop and search. More of just patroling the beat, making yourself known to the community and being more of a safety net than an authority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
The single greatest thing the USA could possibly do to improve race relations is end the fucking war on drugs and stop incarcerating millions and millions of low-level drug possessors
Reminds me of the Wire a lot of this. If you don't break the inequality in the system and give young poor people better outcomes, then you are doomed to keep repeating the same old cycles.
Also, donning the police in military gear is a complete disaster.
Brilliant.
I don’t think he’s FBI but I’ve just finished watching it too. What a don.
Lewis Hamilton having a go at his fellow drivers today for not speaking out. Maybe it's because they just don't give a flying fuck about American politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
You tell 'em lad.
That took a turn. :D
:lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPQN0aW47IQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN_8KIpmZXs
Just one example.
I think it's an open question how to change policing in a way that will prevent these things from happening. I think a lot of people are thinking critically about that who weren't before, and it's going to be a more prominent question that politicians face when trying to get elected. That's at least a start. There's not going to be one catch-all solution, but I think it's possible that certain reforms like abolishing cash bail or decriminalizing marijuana will get accelerated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
But yes, it's always easier to be cynical. :thbup:
I was going to say, didnt the Yanks literally plan towns and cities with the express purpose of keeping the non-white population on 'the wrong side of the tracks' from the get go?
It's alright though lads, David Guetta has it covered: https://twitter.com/AineMcMahon/stat...287973890?s=19
It's not just that cynicism is easier it's that we've seen this before.
Just within my news watching memory this is Rodney King version who-knows-how-many and the story plays out the same way, lots of hand wringing in the media and some useless measures taken against a few coppers but no wide ranging social change. Same with guns, some of you flip out when your kids are gunned down at school but nothing ever actually gets done about it. I'd love to be proven wrong but I reckon this will be same once the riots blow over, a sticking plaster and then back to normal, maybe not even that seeing as you elected a racist idiot to run everything.
Obviously it would be awesome to have more racially integrated neighborhoods, but it's hard because it's really not what either side wants or will choose when given the choice. Short of telling people where to live, I'm not sure if anything can fix that. Besides a general economic betterment of minority groups, of course, but that's a separate issue to this segregation talk
Stuff like redlining is more debatable and as a policy clearly promotes segregation, but on some level then you also have to have the state tell insurance agencies how to price risk, and that again doesn't seem sustainable
EDIT: Though worth considering this option. I still don't think it would change underlying demographic geography, but it would be easier on those groups
Remember the Ferguson riots? How much did they help?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Thing is, you need thousands of police precincts to change their ways independently. Unlikely to happen.
Ending the "war on drugs", as someone said earlier, would help in putting less people in prison for sure (same as you're saying), which would be a good thing, but would it decrease "random person who did nothing was murdered because cop is a fucking idiot" incidents? I do not know.
It's not cynical, it's realistic. This isn't the first time the police have brutalised a black man and kickstarted a riot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
They're doing the same shit now during the riots with President 'You start looting, we start shooting' Trumps approval.
You and your friends care, just as people your age did when Vietnam was the cause of the day. But most of the older generation are probably on the side of the police and... you know, there's been a few unnecessary wars since then regardless. People don't listen to teenagers/students.
It also doesn't help that young adults will simply never turn out to vote at the same rate as the boomersQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
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Originally Posted by mugbull
Yeah, I don't know what the solution to the problem is today. Redlining is just an example, in response to Jimmy, of how institutional policies 1) were clearly racist 2) led to racial inequalities.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Obviously some segregation will happen naturally just because we're human. The problem is when that segregation is both clearly racist and enforced by the government.
I just realized I meant to post this video instead of the Vox one above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5FBJyqfoLM
Almost as if there's more of them.
Rate, my man, rateQuote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
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Originally Posted by Disco
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Originally Posted by Pepe
It seems like you guys are saying that since things didn't change before in similar circumstances, they're not going to change now. And all I'm saying is that it's possible things will change, even just a little, and that believing in that possibility makes change more likely than being 'realistic' and writing it all off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
In contrast with the Ferguson protests @Pepe is the fact that this is in every city in the US. And it has pierced the awareness and dominated the conversation of my mostly white circle in a way that Ferguson did not. Not that that will lead to some magical solution, but it's a difference from 2015. As I read someone on twitter saying, "you know shit's bad when they're rioting in Salt Lake City."
I mean, it's not like protests never changed anything ever.
It's also fallen apart into dickhead lawlessness across the board in an election year, so it stands a solid chance of blowing up in all your faces.
Police showing solidarity with the protesters might be the game-changer. At some point, police are tired of dealing with this shit too. Can change come from within?
Especially when he’s one of the ‘whitest’ men on the planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
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Hopefully you're right but I doubt it to the point of near certainty. Sandy Hook is probably the most tragic thing to happen in recent memory. It's inconceivable and downright immoral that no change came off the back of it. And yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
It could change, but "the conversation" hasn't moved an inch forward from "institutional racism", so I am not setting my hopes too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
No offense, but this is nothing but a hobby in our circles. A way to be part of something. Like the Women's march of the Science march or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Fwiw, it is not like I think that things will NEVER change. They slowly but surely do. I just don't think some white kids "rioting" in Salt Lake City means much.
That's true. I guess everyone should just put their anger aside for six months and come back in December.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
You say that sarcastically, but yeah, they should. Especially if Trump is re-elected and then riot even harderQuote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Wait until the cop gets cleared of all charges.
Massive crowd of wankers protesting in Dublin at the minute too. Must need a few flat screens for lockdown.
Ignore these cynical fucks, Spoon. Go burn something.
Cause of death is asphyxia. I can't see the copper getting off with this now.
That’s not how anger works unless you’re a robot. Besides nobody would’ve remembered this in six months if there weren’t the protests right now. Just like you probably know who Michael Brown is but not Philando Castile.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Cornel West said it well the other day, it would be disturbing if these tapes came out and there weren’t people in the streets.
I know it's not how anger works and I know it's gonna happen regardless, but Lewis is right there. Like I said earlier, rioting has been a thing forever and it never works in the rioting group's favor, unless the rioting happens with a mission in mind which it isn't here.
This is the absolute truth of it and makes it all very simple to understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
I just can't believe there's not been more deaths when cops, business owners and grannies are rolling with a shottie and a Desert Eagle.
@mok
I agree that Lewis might be right (not that things have been so great with Democratic presidents either). But I find it kind of disconcerting the way you and other people I know can coolly and objectively critique their tactics, and how rioting might be detrimental to their cause.
As an American, do you not feel any investment or responsibility in the cause represented by these protests? Isn’t it everyone’s cause?
In any case most protests have been pretty peaceful. I think a majority of people realize what’s at stake
I mean, I agree with that. I am all for riots. I just don't think they'll do much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Look at it this way. More people will have a negative opinion about black people than 2 weeks ago. If the focus stayed on the murder, everyone could get behind that. The problem is these riots always happen after the fact, so even though most protests are peaceful, things get out of hand and big parts of communities are destroyed. But more importantly, people go from empathizing with the man and the community as a whole to being afraid of them again. It’s inevitable, but sad, and it truly does hurt their cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
People keep saying that neighborhoods can be rebuilt etc but studies show huge deteriorations, divestment, loss of business in areas that are hotspots of riots. It’s not making anyone’s lives better.
As for me saying “their cause”, well, it is their cause. I can support it and advocate for it but it’s their cause, not mine.
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Originally Posted by mugbull
:thbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
I think what some people including myself have found frustrating, and I know this board is a different context than most so I’m talking more generally, is how ready a lot of people are to condemn the riots while remaining either silent or fatalistic about the murder itself.
Anyone that isn't a cunt understands what's happening and why. The attitude of the Police in the US is disgusting, especially towards those of darker hues. It has been that way since the inception of your country.
It's a funny old country, America. It's all about FREEDOM, but you have some of the most invasive Police forces in the world and they are treated as sacrosanct. Fucking Boomers.
My man Lewis might be the BEST POSTER EVAR!, but the way he always focuses on the looting as if everyone was part of it or that was the only thing going on does bother me a bit.
These differing autopsy results sound a major development but coverage seems low-key.
Teacher's pet finally makes (sort of) a stand - let's see how it plays outQuote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
It's the only thing with a shelf life. Matey isn't coming back to life; the police aren't reforming any time soon; etc. etc. Meanwhile lol you've trashed your community, sullied the original protest, and you're probably going to prison for two years over a pair of trainers.
Focusing on the looters, though, that is usually used to ignore the problem that caused the riots in the first place and/or to say "see, they are savages, so they had it coming."
It (looting) is definitely a bonehead approach, but you can't control everyone.
Yeah, that’s it. It’s an extremely revealing behaviour shared by many whites in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
Hell, I don’t like the riots either. I just think they’re slightly besides the point.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/202...ement-delayed/
:harold:Quote:
Electronic Arts had planned to today announce Madden NFL 21, the latest annual sequel in their American football series. But in light of the protests, unrest, and violence in America right now after Minneapolis police killed unarmed Black man George Floyd, it didn’t seem the time. “Our immediate attention is on actions we can take to drive change against the unjust treatment and systemic bias that is plaguing the nation and our world,” EA Sports said in a surprising statement.
Sony did the same with the Playstation 5 reveal.
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Originally Posted by Lewis
Yeah lol at these idiots, why don’t they just shut up and take it?
That’s what you’re saying.
Not to mention all the whites' being pushed over in Phonics' posts. Policing is fundamentally wrong in the United States.
There is an element of self-fulfilment in it, which is what my original point was about. Black people kill each other in stupendous numbers, as well as killing a disproportionate amount of police officers; and then they wonder why the police are 'militarised' and operate with their tails up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
Ah, yes, the one where black people are to blame for centuries of oppression and segregation, and racism doesn’t exist.
You could’ve been an alt right star if you weren’t such a shut-in Lewis.
Edit It’s especially remarkable for a history student to so thoroughly overlook the history of these things.
While this:
might be factually true, it still does not in any way justify cops who killed innocent, unarmed civilians walking free.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
It's been a bad few weeks for Lewis. He's going to need a strong summer.
This has always been his stance, nothing new here.
He's our Brian Clough. It gets to a point where all you can say is, "It's good to see him in good health." when he starts talking shite.
Almost as if "having no filter" and knowing a lot about nuclear-era politics doesn't particularly make you good at anything else
Trump's out walking in the street now after his speech.
:cab:
On verge of meltdown outside White House now. Peaceful protesters getting rushed and tear-gassed on live TV. This is an escalation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
The state of Lewis. You're from Hull.
It would be a pretty uncontroversial point in literally any other context. If you tried to argue, for example, that Israel acts like it does simply because they don't like Palestinians on some innate 'institutional' level it wouldn't pass as a serious analysis, yet we're expected to buy that this stuff all happens in a racist isolation chamber because of slavery and Jim Crow and how Joe Louis got stiffed on his taxes. It's a bit simplistic even on a superficial level, let alone when you get into the statistics and see that the police are equally as likely to waste unarmed white people. That would suggest that the police are just a bit crap (or at least more confrontational and/or unstable because guns), which when you throw them into 'communities' with disproportionate amounts of violent crime... What do you expect?
With that in mind, police reform seems a bit pointless other than in a general sense (as Pepe said), and how likely is that when literally anyone you approach could be carrying the means to blow your head off? Meanwhile, why not sort your own community out and make it less of a violent sinkhole liable to attract heavy-handed policing? Again, that might take a while, and you may well be up against racist disadvantages (including deluded white whoppers infantalising your actions and reducing you to part of some haunted grievance mass); but at the very least you could not make your fate worse on every conceivable level with the full spectrum of negative stereotype behaviours.
Save yourself some time and just type out the n-word.
Governor of Illinois has just gone in on him both in a direct call as well as on CNN. He's a goner. Someone ought to save his ass and assasinate him.
I thought the COVID pressers were good but I could watch CNN for the next 8 hours. You can almost taste the imminent scenes. Cuomo now laying into him.
Hopefully in November young people vote and flip the Senate and the Whitehouse.
Imagine Jon Jones confronting you...
https://www.foxsports.com.au/ufc/ufc...60b11833cb4443Quote:
When the protests spilt over into Albuquerque on Sunday night, Jones was quick to confront two teenagers carry spray cans, demanding they hand them over to him in a video posted online.
I don't think I've ever seen teeteeaitch turn on Lewis before. Monumental scenes.
The police really are responding with a crazy amount of force. Peaceful protesters getting beaten by police with batons and tear gassed. I almost want the cops to open fire so we can justify some more shit and to bring Trump out of his lobster shell
Lifetime to build, seconds to break, forever to repair.
On the BBC ticker I've seen two stories about police being fired upon and one about a couple of New York cops being ran over.
Ooh, I know this one. Is it Lego?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smjffy
I'm going with an Ikea bookshelf.
I thought my instagram or connection was fucked for a while this morning before I realised everyone was solving the worlds problems on it :rolleyes:
Mine is the same and from suspects that dont give a shit about Aboriginal deaths in custody down here and happily booed Adam Goodes out of the AFL. LolololQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Edit: If I was funny I would upload this Chinese flag to my timeline.
This was all fun and games but one of my melty friends has been empowered to such a degree by all this shit he's accused me of being a racist this morning, the fucking soft chocolate chip cookie.
Some here, though possibly only Lewis, will remember me posting about my neighbour being killed a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Their state ME's report, that Floyd died of a heart attack which may or may not have been caused by the stress of having his throat compressed, is the same thing they said happened to my neighbour. A twat had grabbed him by the throat and pushed him up against the wall, at which point he had a heart attack and died. Twat was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to, I think, six years.
There was no racial component and twat wasn't a policeman so the cause of death is the only point of comparison, but I'll be interested to see how that compares to whatever slap on the wrist the dickhead policeman there gets.
The White House video that they cleared out the church for is the most laughable thing I've seen in a while.
He's always been a petulant child, but it just amazes me that people can look at that and go "yep, that's my leader".
That I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
That too. While the situation you are in might not be your fault at all, you are, ultimately, the one best placed to improve it. It is a bloody steep as fuck uphill battle in the US though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
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Originally Posted by Bernanke
On the other hand, how demented by him do you have to be to consider that?
Romans 13:
He's taking the Bible at its word if anything.Quote:
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience
His Twitter name is quality. Fredward, the cardigan wearer's Jedward.
Hi there. Enjoying the apocalypse, fuckers?
Lewis seems to be causing a stir over the last couple of pages. But he literally thinks that anti-Hitler resistance was pointless so you can hardly expect him to have a hard on for anti-Trump resistance.
For all Trump's many shortcomings is this issue really anything to do with him?
I don't really understand the US police system, or in fact many facets of their society, but somewhere between it being insanely politicised/partisan and every fucker potentially having a gun it seems to have gone wrong.
I'm sure Mert will be along shortly to affirm that actually everything is fine as life in the 'burbs continues unhindered.
It was a problem a long time before he came into power and will probably be a problem for a long time to come.
He has been making things worse though.
I remember that. It was the White Rose specifically. But yes, obviously my views on the practical value of protesting under the Third Reich, which cut their heads off for leafleting, informs how I view all political demonstrations.
Nah, the same shit was happening under Obama. The difference is that Trump actually sides openly with the white supremacists.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
A politician turned up in his constituency and said directly ‘if I didn’t have a primary, I wouldn’t care’
This is why this whole ‘vote D’ is total nonsense.
Vote for Biden, he only wants to shoot you in the leg, not the chest.
https://www.odmp.org/search/year/2020
This is kind of bleak. Admittedly, there's a lot of Covid deaths, car accidents and even a 9/11 related cancer in there.
The top one being for 9/11 related cancer that the Senate is still refusing to pay for is fucking hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
These sick fucks in power give no shits about the police, just their role in keeping the people they don't like in their place.
Last 2 NYPD officers who died from gunshot were friendly fire.
"He'll place his knee on your neck until you pass out, not die! Biden 2020"Quote:
Originally Posted by Boydy
I'm getting in trouble on social media for not being pro 'Blackout Tuesday'.
Seperate protest but I just wanted to share because it's hilarious. This is why they shoot tear gas at people not confront them:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...DOX0AINc85.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...DcXgAE3OQb.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...DwXgAAf2pc.png
Roman Reigns would have been proud of that one.
He would, especially as he's shit at spears.
Standing start, as well.
They've just wheeled out George's missus and kid in a presser and let me tell you, I'm ready to fight each and every one of you cunts (Sincere aside) :cry:
Professional gaslighting
Looks like a good few cops are starting to get shot at and CNN just showed some cracking footage of some looters running over a policeman at speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
How long untill the white militias start shooting the protesters?
There was a drive-by shooting in the little town I live in last night. What a country.
ripQuote:
Originally Posted by pepe
The Portuguese gyppo is way ahead of the game regarding above...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZierlBW...jpg&name=large
Ticks all the boxes.
Always good to see the big brands getting in on that stuff as well. Hang on lads when China were... And you've got a drone through the roof.
lmao
Did it land in a cup?
What did they throw? And what kind of glass is that? I've never seen a window where single glazing is on the inside shatter like that.
The rock or whatever it is seems to take an age to get to the window yet it's powerful enough to do that? At that distance, up 3 storeys and across a park that things travelling at 15mph max. How is it doing that?
That Spike Lee interview on the BBC news was good. Good to hear someone actually say this sort of thing on tv and it be on the 6pm news.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/enter...-arts-52890620Quote:
"The land was stolen from native people, genocide was committed against the native people, and ancestors were stolen from Africa and brought here to work," he said.
"So the foundation of the United States of America is genocide, stealing land and slavery."
Don’t think Spike Lee is the messenger I want but I’ll take it.
Ya, caught my ear on 10pm news, too.
I see tear gas is in full flow in Paris now. Apparently protesting some other geezer called Adama Traore (do they have any other names available in Mali?). Just glad there isn't an imminent economic crash or else I reckon things could have got tasty on a global level.
Tempered glass.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Designed to break into small crystals rather than just large chunks like regular glass.
Why does the bullshit cultural foundation narrative cut off before they ended slavery and defeated twentieth century totalitarianism (which the genociding was the antecedent to)? And then you get into what historical traumas do to the victim points differentials on Jews and Asians, let alone the poor cunt indigenous fellas who would swap their third world conditions for a few police killings any day of the week.
:D
You’re seething.
It's more of a gentle simmer, but the bad history is annoying.
You’re the kind of person who suddenly cares about the plight of indigenous people only when it can be used to minimize that of blacks. It’s not some bizarre competition, and most people aware of the historical legacy of slavery are also aware of the genocide of native Americans (see: Spike Lee).
People are bringing up the (immense) contribution of black people to American culture because it stands in such marked contrast to the position of black people in American society. It’s a pretty simple point.
I don't suddenly care about the plight of the dear old Red Indians. I don't care at all. I'm using them as an easy way of showing how illogical that particular narrative is when you take it beyond its pointlessly ahistorical parameters.
You could’ve posted this up front and saved yourself the trouble of a dozen posts over the past few days. It’s all you’ve been saying in this thread since the video first emerged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
The expansion into 'the new world' (with all the attendant eradication of indigenous types) and slavery does often feel a bit analogous to football only starting in 1991 or whatever it was. There was nothing noteworthy prior to these events in the entirety of human history. Everything stems from there.
Exactly this. It’s a classic right-wing tactic. Hell, Trumpo uses it most daysQuote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Easy there big fella.
At times like this you realise how much the Civil Rights movement was lightning in a bottle. Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, etc all being at the right time. I can't think of any strong black leaders on that level and America suffers badly for it.
Obama if he wasnt comprimised by Wall Street and Tech.
Come on. You're assuming you would know who any of those guys were in the 60s. There are probably numerous black leaders but you don't pay attention to US politics that closely.
Nina Turner is one she is Bernie's no 2.
Even in his post-President days, he's so peripheral. The more time goes on, I like him less and less.
Him not backing Bernie somes him up.
Biden was literally his VP. Him not backing Bernie, whom nobody seems to believe in very much, is the least surprising thing about himQuote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Neo-Liberal scum!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FuQeT7azq8&feature=emb_title
This is what they got up to within a week. :eyemouth:
The drive by pepper spraying at 10 minutes in. :D
Failed State
Long live Mao!!
That's certainly one way to achieve herd immunity.
Nobody's in control of any of that. Christ.
It's interesting, and as a cynical person I'm finding it all a bit hysterical (religious mentalism is a much better catch-all cultural explanation of America than slavery) and think it will probably prove to be counter-productive. That's about it. That's the 'side' I'm on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Oh, Trump was inspecting the bunker.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
thread on mentalism^
Cruel Vulgarian's going to be the title of my next metal album. Also Trudeau using the phrase, "Racialised Canadians" sounded very, very off.
It's more so the evangelical mindset than that tenuous dot-to-dot, but it runs right through their history and how they approach the rest of the world. What works there works everywhere, because why wouldn't it? You're covered for bombing democracy into goat shaggers right the way up to the universalist, quasi-religious idiocy you're currently seeing in defence of all this.
Floyd flying soft for the majority of the shoot. Cancel the protest.
Maybe that first autopsy was right.
Chauvin's has his charges upped and the three others are being charged with third degree murder.
Lewis is getting the t-shirt’s printed as we speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Took them long enough.
Doesn't that mean he wanted to kill him rather than just not caring if he did? They might be reaching with that one.
I think they're going with that.Quote:
A second situation that constitutes second-degree murder is where the perpetrator intends only to cause serious bodily harm but knows that death could result from the act.
I see. Even that though, provided it was an approved/taught restraint technique, it seems quite difficult to prove anything other than indifference. We could really use @Bartholomert and a qualified legal opinion.
Was there not history there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Well, it's funny you mention indifference to human life. That's also covered by 2nd degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
On the definition you've posted he could say he didn't intend to cause serious bodily harm because he was just restraining him as taught.
He left his knee on him for over 2 minutes after one of the other officers couldn't find a pulse.
If he didn't want him dead he could have gotten off him and then administered CPR (or instructed someone else).
Maybe. But they might end up blowing it.
We did it boys. Well, I did it with taking a knee at 6pm and my relentless sharing of tweets on whatsapp but I couldn't have done it without the support and love of all my fans. Big respect.
Have it, Lewis.
I'm pretty sure that knee restraint was banned but you know, Lewis is probably right.
https://nypost.com/2020/06/03/man-wi...esters-in-nyc/
Step aside, crossbow man.
Okay not banned but only should be used in times of restraint in that state. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/5274334002/
https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/george...s-union-chief/
They are absolutely broken.
Had is the key word there. He now has a collapsed Larynx.
Let's not forget that Stockley walked even though he was caught on video saying "I am going to kill that motherfucker" minutes before killing that motherfucker.
I've seen a couple of things about how instinctive trade unionism contributes to this stuff, but I didn't think it went beyond the right-wing cranks I read. It's pretty obvious really, like how teaching unions cover their worst members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Talk about a progressive dilemma. Whew.
American Police assualting Australian journos and now grubs on streets of London and Paris doing the same...
https://youtu.be/KkucGK6VY2Y
https://youtu.be/ZEvhwYuRA5g
What the fuck is going fellas?
Scummo better sack up and address this mess.
Ill happily get Xi Jinping on the phone to sort this out for us if Scummo wont.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/donald-t...end-themselvesQuote:
Donald Trump's press secretary says police who attacked Australian journalists 'had right to defend themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04rY0rKJ1YQQuote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
all about balanceQuote:
Originally Posted by sir andy mahowry
Welp.
What's the implication? Some have their hands out ready to shake, some are clapping. The ones clapping aren't readying themselves for a handshake.
He's so racist he won't touch black people.
That has to be in in fairness. He couldn't be thick enough to do it for another reason and a camera in his face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Well, I mean, I'm not saying that video is proof of his racism (it's not as if we need that video for that anyway) but let's not go too far the other way here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I think it's a light-hearted meme, lads.
Nailed it.
The Rona is a Democratic hoax. So they can do this but not beat Donald Cunting Trump in an election? Alrigjht then.
Quite, if I was George Soros I would be asking for my money back on this project to take over the world.
Man talks a lot of sense.
Promised a lot that and really dashed my hopes but the anticipation was superb, all-in-all 5/10 for the ride alone.
I'm right there with him.
Don't forget your coat.
People outside after 8PM in New York (the city that never sleeps) now have the same rights as terrorists
:lol: What a way to make it about himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Did you see Jimmy Fallons black face apology?
https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...f52e33b55db032
Utter bollocks.
Bo Selecta got away with it by being mental and going for everyone (plus everyone he impersonated liked it other than Craig David who blamed him for ruining his career), but that Jimmy Fallon one seems a bit suspect even for the time.
Absolutely. Fast foward 20 years and SNL hired and then fired Shane Gillis this year because he made fun of Asians on his podcast. What a mad house.
I hate half the movements I agree with because of pointless shit like this.
This is what matters:
https://i.imgur.com/4gImOnY.png
They haven't had a republican in charge since 93. I hardly conclude that blackface from the last time republicans ran the city is the issue.
Fallon has expressed more regret for this than he did for the following a few months before the election:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kIGcosb22_Y/maxresdefault.jpg
Bloody hell I forgot about that what a cretin.
*Parks & Rec.
Hilarious.
Means a lot coming from a poster with amazing humour.
People are dying and not from your having to listen to your Z tier humour.
They've started arresting the people there to observe the legality of the protests.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZtWw-9XgAEkt72.jpg
White shirt = Area chief, by the way.
This is coming from the very top. If this was Iran or China...
The report described this man having 'tripped and fallen over'. The police lie and they lie constantly. I'm not even one of these 'abolish the police' people but holy shit do they never stop providing that argument a platform.
It is good to see the Generals come out against military intervention.
There's a bunch of male hookers on Twitter about to out themselves to say they've banged Lindsay Graham.
That doesnt seem like a very "woke" thing to do.
Edit: Isnt that out of the Mafia playbook?
Sounds like a union that needs busting.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
:|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
It is all getting a bit handmaids tale with the US police (at least going off all these twitter vids) and Gilead Life Sciences or whatever they are called and their coronavirus drug aren't helping on that front.
There is something a bit off about that trip video, how do you stumble back that much and fall and make no effort to save yourself? Is that blood coming out of his head as he's laying on the floor? It feels like that video where some idiot is trying to bowl a delivery and his momentum carries him on for miles into a wall or something. Ah yes, cricket bowler fail.
He's a 75 year old man? They're not always the most graceful.
He's bleeding out of his ear. He is (was?) Old and unsteady on his feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Another one outed.
cf. Paul Alcock
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Video in link. :D
https://www.facebook.com/12598267075...8798570806434/Quote:
These Kiwis performed the Haka in front of the US consulate in Auckland to stand in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement.
Yeah, fair enough. It just looks odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
The indifference to him lying on the floor with blood pouring out of his head is as bad as the shoving him over. I can't work out if the officer who sort of bends down over him and is then pushed away by another was going to help him or was going to get in his face/shout abuse/do something worse. Probably the latter.
Considering filming everything everyone does is a serious hobby for police forces the world over it's amazing how unaware of the phenomenon they are when they concoct these ridiculous explanations.
At this point, i just find the haka (in any circumstance) a bit cringe, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
It's daft and even more so when you see the police trying to prevent people from checking on him.
All Blacks v the Wobblies still gets me going. Im over the boozed Haka at the end of a night though.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
Or perhaps it's the fact there are rarely any repercussions, even when caught on camera doing awful shit (unless half the country goes out to protest :sherlock:Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Body cameras for them all, get fired if you switch it off/obstruct it and actual consequences for improper action. Doesn't sound that outlandish?
What, even improper action against minorities or poor people???Quote:
Originally Posted by Raoul Duke
From PC Brutality to PC SNOWFLAKE!
Should be rowdy in Sydney tomorrow as the Supreme Court has ruled in favour of the Police wanting ban the Black Lives Matters protest because of covid concerns.
More like PC GONE MAD amirite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Their army has exactly the same mindset. Maximum gung ho against anyone they can see, at all times.
More like PC don't make better jokes than me you slag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Do these people not have internet connections? Make it a zoom meeting or stream it out as a fundraiser. Modern solutions for modern problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
I agree that they should use technology and postpone any massive gathering untill later but unfortunely our treatment of black fellas is bad and this stuff has been simmering below the surface for the last few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
I think Melbourne could get nasty as well.
Listen lads, BLACK LIVES MATTER and if rioting further spreads a disease that disproportionately affects black people, then that's just the price we must be willing to pay.
Or something.
This has been brought up a bunch down here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I'm all for shoving that old man over. If everyone who approaches you has to be gently shuffled on you're not going to get anything done.
The mainstream media here don't seem to have made the connection. Although social distancing seems to have been more or less forgotten anyway and Madeleine McCann and the Riots have left Covid 3rd in the queue anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Of course you're all for it.
They're not going to be much use if you can just send Larry David in like some confounding war elephant.
They need to learn how to properly kettle. They leave this huge gap and then wonder why people wander into it.
Shameful.
To be fair he was trying to give them a police helmet back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Yeah but Lewis is a suck up to authority.
You'd think he would empathise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Lewis comes off like a bit of a sociopath at times.
Only when he posts.
I don't see how you can get that from everything I post. It's not as though I'm a great lover of all our institutions (police included) and collective national shite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Any sense and that's what should be happening. There was a load of cunts protesting here last weekend and not one of our chicken shit politicians had a thing to say about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Luckily the Gardaí are pursuing criminal charges against the organisers which seems to have halted plans for three more of them.
I think it’s less pro-authority and more anti-black people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
She apparently also said "Kill the shits" and "Black Nikes matter".
:face:
Could he not have taken them to the cleaners for that? Well, unless they have a spouse/family conduct thing written into the contract.
It's described as mutual so he's knackered.
I mean before they made it mutual, as he’d have been given the road anyway.
Or maybe he wanted out, but I can’t imagine it’s much use to him now.
They will have paid his contract up.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...260/image0.png
I don't think I'll ever understand Americans and their love for OLD GLORY.
Trump is a flag shagger.
Yeah, no kneeling. That's only for the necks of black dudes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krfcq5pF8u8
13th free on Youtube.
I love how President Trump almost follows the TTH Style Guide. The day he accuses the Fake News of following a particular NARRATIVE we have lift off.
Another sane man making a point
David Pocock is going to be a very important voice down here in the next 10 years.
https://i.ibb.co/cbyV4Sy/Screenshot-...-Instagram.jpg
roll 6 sided die
Apparently go bald for black lives matter is a thing?
Did someone post here about the guy in Salt Lake who took out a bow and arrow and starting shooting at protesters? The guy got his car flipped almost immediately, then some protesters roughed him up, the police didn't arrest him, and he did an interview with our local news channel the next day. Now he's just been charged with 3 felonies, the stupid idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/...rew-bow-arrow/
Killing blacks is good for the stock market guys.
Or maybe those two things are not related at all. Nah, can't be that. The markets are racist.
That Mexican weaponising his own racial stereotype is how you do it.
The video Bernake posted made mention to how much private companies actually benefit from prisons being full so there's probably something in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
Where evil exists, money isn't too far behind after all.
Still very much a State by State issue down here but all the Premiers are standing firm and holding the covid line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
5000 in Sydney and it is only 1:30
https://www.news.com.au/national/bla...3e930c18e8eacc
QLD Premier has told the protesters that she wont stand in the way.
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nat...06-p5503k.html
https://i.ibb.co/3BP8RMR/FB-IMG-1591414904435.jpg
Video footage
https://www.facebook.com/abcinbrisba...7734065770411/
https://i.ibb.co/RhdnC13/FB-IMG-1591415604767.jpg
Brisbane is fucking chockers! All peaceful no destruction of property, no violence from the Police.
30 000 people so far.
Video footage.
https://www.facebook.com/abcinbrisba...7734065770411/
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pepe
It's a pretty crass comparison point which is probably the real point.
No, I was definitely implying that the US stock market is positively correlated with the amount of black men killed by cops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
You're definitely not Fox news who I was shitting on more. Unless you are then :sherlock:
More Passive Aggression please lads.
Definitely works better when we all just call each other cunts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Was gonna say, we need to show these melts how it's done Giggs.
Some fucking disgusting scenes in London today, I see. I can almost hear the sound of racists doubling down on their beliefs, wp.
Proud of my wee City.
https://i.ibb.co/4T1wyHc/0412caae-f2...e697eaf0d1.jpg
Not sure how you can be. I understand the BLM movement and in any other time I would agree with it but the fact that blacks and minorities are proven to be more at risk of Covid just makes this seem bonkers. Not only will they potentially kill themselves before seeing any change (unfortunately that still won't happen) but the masses of people in attendance will infect one another thus putting further strain on things when the inevitable happens. So more blacks die, more whites spread it, NHS or equivalent get battered and voila. F00ked. Certainly something to look out for in the next couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Maybe it's different for your country but I can't help thinking every country is going to have the same problem.
We have fuck all covid in Queensland.
Well that's good. I thought it was NZ that had the good record, not Australia. Still applies to those countries it's still travelling in though.
On topic of Australia....it's quite something that the best thing of 2020 so far was the fires....purely for the human reaction...it all went down hill from there I reckon. What's next is the question. I'm thinking Aliens or Liverpool uniting the country again...and fucking up the league.
It is State by State. The rest of the Australia has closed borders with Victoria and New South WalesQuote:
Originally Posted by Smjffy
After Covid Australia will be in a shit trade war with China because the Liberial and the Nationals cant keep their fucking mouths shut.
The biggest risk to that crowd is a crate of beers.
The video of the copper knocking himself out cold smacking into a traffic light is amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/stat...312413189?s=20
Middle East was literally leading the way all these years, it turns out.
The state of the filthy unwashed cunt jumping on it. You’d be doing the planet a favour by opening up on the lot of them with an automatic.
And with that they've lost the argument.
Send the riot police in.
The 'would you say the same about the Saddam statue topplers?' retort probably doesn't work as well with Giggles.
Edit: Ah we can try it with Yev, though.
Man, that's a white crowd.
I've got a massive hard on for statues, so yes, I would.
In any case, where do you stop? Do we burn Liverpool to the ground?
The above was in a civilised country though not some sand riddled shithole. Get the back in their box before the cunts think it’s how things work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
We lead the way, always have, always will. You'll be pining after your underage cousin in no time, Giggs :drool:
It is laughable how only the Hollywood glamour of the US civil rights movement - not Hollywood-glamorous for those who live through it, of course, but certainly so from a removed, white-privileged British/European perspective - can trigger these people into doing anything. They couldn't give a shit about 98% of injustice anywhere else in the world.
I'd rather we didn't. :uhoh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Serves the Palestinians, Syrians and Rohingya right for not breaking in to Hollywood.
This Colston sounds like a cunt. It probably goes all the way to Churchill himself, which I would heartily applaud
He's a philanthropist but he made his money for said philanthropy off the back of slave trading. Given the amount of building and streets named in his honour, he probably bankrolled most of Bristol from it.
The guy was a slave trader. It really shouldn't be a statue in modern society.
The answer to this is yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I'm all for whatever situation gets a Shola Ameobi on top of Grey's Monument.
Then go through the channels and have it removed like civilised human beings. Whatever he did, people going down the route of the video above need to be crushed. Half the filthy bastards will brick a window and rob a laptop on the way home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
I love the energy these kids got. Tear it all down.
Look on the bright side. The council doesn't have to contract someone out to remove it now.
I don't really mind getting rid of the statue but the glee/revelry with which it is done feels chilling to me and reminiscent of the many times in history when this was done to real humans rather than stone ones.
I'm sure the statue will move on Jim.
You presumably wouldn't put a statue of him up today, but it was put there over a century ago, which makes it a local historical curiosity rather than a contemporary political statement. But then that's totalitarianism for you.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ7B223UMAEJwZS.jpg
lol what an absolute melt.
He's right. If you actually wanted to understand the legacy of slavery in and across various historical contexts then statues like that are important artefacts.
The only melt there is you.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
No one's going to learn an iota about slavery by looking at a marble statue of someone they've never heard ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
The fucking state of that tweet lmaoQuote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Then it has no value, so why target it?Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Likes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Churchill statue next please.
It's coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
Watching people on here simp over a statue of a racist is fucking hilarious.
Phonics to the left me, Lewis to the right, here I am, forever blaming the Jew.
Actually agree with you here. It feels dangerously close to trying to erase the memory that slavery happened, while meanwhile the city built by slavery still stands as though the money didn’t come from anywhere. I’ve always thought it’s better when they just install a plaque at the statue saying “Mr. Colston was a slave-trader and massive shit-cunt”Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Confederate statues in the South though is a different story.
I've just been made aware of Darren Grimes. Him blaming antifa terrorists for a policeman running into a traffic light is top stuff.
The council did literally that. Nowadays, if you want anything like that to survive, you have to bundle it off to the Slavery Museum which, unsurprisingly, is in Liverpool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Colin Powell turning up on CNN and saying he's voting for Biden because Trump 'lies to the American people' is fucking hilarious.
Like does he think he we don't remember his trip to the UN?
Those are a good example of what I said in the other post. Something like the Robert E. Lee statue in Richmond, and other notables built around the turn of the century when a lot of the veterans were dropping off and interest picked up across the board, are different propositions to the crash-built sixties stuff which had very specific political values. I personally wouldn't remove any of them, since it's all part of it, but I could at least see the case for the latter stuff going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Ultimately they're just statues and removing them is a symbolic gesture at best.
Back to Iraq, how much difference would it have made to the situation there if the statue had been torn down but Saddam stayed in power?
There will be riots in London soon enough.
Wonder what they're going to do with Blackboy Hill (nowt to do with slavery apparently)? Also, imagine how fucked they'll be if someone discovers Brunel was a massive racist.
Maybe Sharia Law isn't such a bad idea
That's why London and Birmingham have been under it for years.
I got stoned to death just the other day. Wasn't as bad as it sounds, all in all.
They’re monuments to a defeated enemy combatant of the United States. You could have them gone on that basis alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
Worse, though, is that they have a still really potent symbolic power in the South where a lot of white supremacy and KKK sentiment hides behind Confederate pride. Whereas I don’t imagine this fella in Bristol was actively stirring up any nostalgic feelings for the days of slave ships. That’s where I would draw the line.
It’s not like the surge of confederate pride at the turn of the century was only caused by Veterans dying :D
If they were erected within/around living memory then, whatever else went into them, they have a different dimension to things put up a century later, and what people chose to imbue them with now is irrelevant. There are clearly dickheads in Bristol (including the pathetic copper interviewed about it) who felt that that statue had 'potent symbolic power', so your line seems a bit arbitrary. As for depriving enemy combatants of their monuments, where does that leave the indigenous fellas?
Brb just going to sign up to KKK.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ8W7wcX0AA5A-T.jpg
PrOtEsTs DoN't WoRk
Ah yes, pledges. Those mean a lot.
Change the name, give them new uniforms, and we'll be good to go.
This “aBoLiSh ThE PoLiCe” stuff seems like a load of guff to me, in that every proposal I’ve seen about replacing the institution has nothing in the way of real, practical, researched solutions, and instead advocates for handwavy stuff like “COMMUNITY SUPPORT OFFICERS AND MENTAL HEALTH WORKERS.”
I think policing, especially in the US, requires massive reform. But I don’t think abolishing the institution is the right approach, because the institution is valuable.
Things like making body cameras/recordings mandatory and serving up harsh penalties (e.g., 1 strike and you’re out firings) for instances of tampering are a start; independent ethics boards (and not an internal investigations unit allegiant to the same union) reviewing footage after every loss of life/serious injury. Tangible stuff that forces accountability, similar to how everything that goes on in a airline cockpit is recorded and preserved, and there is an independent investigation unit not tied to the pilot’s union or airlines conducting investigations.
Tommy Robinson calling for anti-BLM protesters to meet them next saturday in London. This is what I fucking get up in the mornings for.
https://youtu.be/4REO0pucYY8
If you had to make me choose I'd select Tommy's boys as I love a good underdog but realistically, I'll be a mercenary, highest bid has my services. Defection will obviously also be on the cards if things look bad.
The supposedly thought-out versions of this I've come across follow that old tried-and-tested Communist Manifesto thinking. It's not just defunding the police lol, it's taking that money and investing it in schools and 'jobs' and trannies and then crime disappears.
It's a bit of a self-sucking cock, and when it inevitably fails like communism it will turn out not have been real abolition all along.Quote:
When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organised power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.
I don't know too much about Marx the person, did he ever have to actually earn his own living or was some benefactor propping him up to write that naive load of bollocks?
EDIT: Ah, here we go (per wiki):
Quote:
His main source of income was Engels, whose own source was his wealthy industrialist father.
It’s not like confederate symbols were later appropriated by racists. The entire basis of the confederacy was white supremacy. There’s no non-racist version of the confederate flag or confederate statues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I’d knock the confederate statues down because they’re still a potent rallying symbol for the cause of white supremacy in the south, which is alive and well. I don’t imagine you have similar nutjobs in the UK rallying around this statue in Bristol. That’s the difference to me; and I’d disagree with the protesters in Bristol on that basis.
If you need evidence that confederate statues are potent symbols today, remember that huge neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville formed in opposition to the removal of a Lee statue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_...ly?wprov=sfti1
Camden New Jersey did it nearly half a decade ago. Crime is down. Protests didn’t get violent. Etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luca
Here’s a piece from 2014 on it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/01/n...ice-force.html
Some of the responses in here are bonkers. A minority, who face shit every day because of the colour of their skin, decide to rip down the statue of a infamous slave trader, and some on here feel bad for the statue. Fuck me.
As for learning more about history - we have books and the internet for this, we don't need statues of slave traders, rapists or murderers to remind us. Keep the building, keep text books - but don't keep the fucking statues, it's a insult.
I didn’t realize they threw it into the harbour. :D
It was white people ripping the statue down.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Arne
White people can be offended by racism, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
I saw the video, there appeared to by some white hippie front and centre - it doesn't change a thing.
The real question that should be asked is why Bristol has devoted half the town to a slave trader and why it hasn't been fixed prior to this point. Sort yourselves out you wet slags.
"This is an iconic moment for Bristol."
Not much happens in Bristol.
The dickheads from the west coast of the UK built all their ill-gotten wealth on slaves and/or ships, unlike the fine and guilt-free eastern half who built our prestige on screwing over Flemish wool traders, and the Hanseatic League.
We should really build a wall from the Sussex/Hampshire border all the way up to Kendal.
Cool. But you don't have fucking statues celebrating it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoBwNO0puuU
Priti Patel hates blacks, guys.
Or vandalism. One of the two.
Doesn’t she just hate everything?
She’s a vile cunt. Somehow worse than Hancock and also went in hiding for 6 weeks during the lockdown.
Priti Patel will always side with the worst people. She's abhorrent.
Helping set immigration laws that would likely not have allowed her own parents into the country was a high point.
Can they be backdated?
:D
Changed my mind on the statue. If the council are refusing to take it down through their inaction (and say, house it in a museum) then some form of action was needed to force that to happen.
If a statue of Jimmy Savile (who also did loads of great work alongside the obvious) had been erected in more favourable times for him, it would have taken about 5 minutes for a council to get rid of that when the truth about what he was up to became clear.
This isn't any different, and really just sums up how much (little) black lives matter in society.
Also it seems they’ve been debating what plaque to put on the statue for 2 years so all the ‘BuT hOw WiLl ThE cHiLDrEn LeArN’ argument can get fucked.
Apparently this guy chucked a load of slaves overboard in order to claim on the insurance, so what the fuck a statue was doing up in the first place is a big question
Stop doing that you imbecile.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
Because if people are still arguing now about whether black lives matter then they sure as hell didn't matter in 1895.
Back then I would have thought at least 90% of the population would have been unpalatably racist by today's standards.
Probably literally everyone bar Bertrand Russell and friends.
As for Lewis’ post last page: why not? It’s a commemoration of a shithead who shouldn’t be commemorated.
Teaching it in schools would be a start, far more effective than whatever was never going to be done with that statue.
To be fair, by current standards, 90+ % of the current population is considered racist. But yes, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
It should have been taken down ages ago and put in the local museum.
Local government is also universally rubbish, statue moving probably doesn't produce many free lunches or sufficiently massage egos.
Any teaching of Britain's role in things like Ireland or India would be useful. My memories of history include Ancient Egypt, Tudors, Stewarts, some of WW1 and WW2 and then British development in health in the final 100 years. Nothing memorable on empire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
We did a bit on Ireland troubles-wise and touched on empire and slavery when we did industrial revolution etc but not much.
Close it off lads, the internet has peaked :D
Edit: Parklife one below it also.
It’s the ‘AYYYY’ that gets me every time :D
Brilliant.
Amazing. :D
I saw that one earlier. It's good, but it doesn't fit the tune properly. Some should get Tommy boy to do it again.
The X-Factor one is gold.
There appears to be a quite a lot of people who think that the entire basis of the United States was and is white supremacy. How would their arguments differ from yours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoonsky
Same here. A little bit on the industrial revolution and the peasants revolt and not much else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Isn't that because of that NY Times project they released?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
That can't have helped.
Also, Tommy's had his teeth whitened in lockdown. Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon. I still giggle that he commoned his name up.
Apparently it is becoming school curriculum in some places. Sounds a bit crazy to me, but what do I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I remember a rumour going around that Danny Dyers real first name is Giles and I have never been more disappointed to find out that something wasn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Hilarious.
All this blackface woe needs to go and lie in its piss. Fucking ridiculous.
Come Fly With Me being pulled due to 'times changing' is an absolute joke, it was last aired originally only 9 years ago ffs.
If Jim Davidson had wandered into the BBC proposing some of the stuff in either that or Little Britain he'd have been kicked out on his arse, but presumably the BBC were falling over themselves to get the quota of prime time content made by homosexuals up and were blinded as a result.
No great loss but it's retarded and if they come for Ali G I'll fucking commit some atrocities against the Black Lives.
I would say Come Fly With Me and Lucas and Walliams generally came from a good place, but in that show they had a character who was the embodiment of the slur Ron Atkinson was sacked for, portrayed by someone who'd blacked up, in 2011.
It's almost a work of genius that they got it on prime time BBC.
Is Tropic Thunder (and, by extension, RD Jr) safe from cancellation?
I think so, because they were satirizing low-budget productions that employ blackface (and specifically addressed it as part of the narrative), but 2020 has been a strange year.
Our BLM protest was today. It was great. I'm editing together footage now, my favourite shot I got so far was this:
https://i.imgur.com/YLyY6Vf.jpg
Why do all the foreign protests have English signs?
37% of the population of Geneva are foreign...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
If you add foreigners that have lived here long enough to naturalise, it's 61%...
Our country has 4 official languages not including English...
Because in other languages it's a term of affection, you see . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
It's a good effort lads, but the only answer I'm accepting is 'because America still has the world on strings and the afflicted will emulate them until the end of time'
That sounds about right, taking your cue from the imperial capital. With that in mind, it's slightly ironic to see people freaking out about this who every other week tend more towards a [pretend] European identity (and who obviously ignored the French police battering protesters every Saturday for months on end).
We literally never joined the EU and there are constant protests against police brutality, pro-union marches, pro-rent control, pro-welfare. Stop applying your preconceptions to literally everywhere else on the planet. It's pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
This sculpture shit seems to be Europe's answer to creating the problem on their shores, news showed one being taken down in Antwerp and another in Canary Wharf. There's apparently one in Shrewsbury getting bad press too, geezer apparently failed to laugh at a Lenny Henry xmas DVD. Buzzing to see Balotelli lead calls for the Colosseum to be flattened.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...defiant-locals
:D
My wife is still seething over that. The NYT basically called them all scum, while lauding the Hong Kong protesters for their bravery/benevolence/whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
I think he meant people in Britain.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
One of the slave owners having my surname has knocked me off my high horse somewhat.
One of the chosen few descended from both slaves and slave owners. :moop:
He was talking about 'foreign protests' and 'the world', much of which - beyond Switzerland - remains in the American cultural orbit. That ties into my second point, which refers more specifically to people in this country. You should read things a couple of times before applying your preconceptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by phonics
That one seems particularly stupid when it was outside a museum which tells the story of the docks he developed, presumably including its connections to the unsavoury stuff. Unless it doesn't, in which case it isn't a very good museum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Yes and so is Always Sunny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luca
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/wa...d-6b81c0f1d899
:D
What an image (if it comes out).
Keeping the distance as well. Quite beautiful.
They are?
How is the telling of the story diminished by the removal of the statue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
They could have stuck it inside, I suppose, but what's the point?
little britain now as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Yeah I knew they both had been. Point I was making specifically about Come Fly With Me was that if the content of that show isn't acceptable now, it wasn't a mere 9 years ago either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaysus
I was watching a Mitchell and Webb recently (their sketch show, maybe 10 years old at most) and they do a scene where they both black up to do some kind of historical battle re-enactment. Mid-scene, one of them turns to the other, breaks character and says: 'Isn't this... you know... a bit racist?' followed by a long explanation of why it is very racist, and taking the piss out of the absurdity of historical re-enactments in general.
I thought it was a good and funny sketch which made a good point, but I bet they wouldn't even be allowed to do that now, a mere few years later.
Link us, pls.
I saw some left wing feminist comedian who was balls deep into BLM get 'cancelled' for something very similiar, I'd be surprised if even those two don't get pounced on by the rabid dogs.
Weren't some people offended at Downey Jr. going blackface in Tropic Thunder, even though the whole point was to take the piss out of Hollywood for using black face... (i haven't seen the film, but heard Downey talking about it).
Context does not make things right, just as it didn't matter who George Floyd was and what he had done. If you can't see why painting your face isn't the same as taking the life of a man, then you're just as bad as those who comitted these acts.
I need to start tweeting views like that. The likes :drool:
Tropic Thunder probably should be expunged from history on the basis of it being truly awful.
First they came for Little Britain, and I did not speak out...
Yeah , I know.
He was commemorated as the man behind the development of the docks, so having the statue out the front of the dock museum complex is a good starting point to exploring how all this stuff fitted into society. It's the perfect context for it. It makes it simply an artefact, and no more an endorsement of anything than that T-55 outside the Imperial War Museum North is.Quote:
Originally Posted by -james-
This review into London statues seems to me to be trying to reassure people that it won't be coming for the historically significant tackle (Winston Churchill, Nelson's Column, etc.), but doesn't that just shoot its own argument to bits? If the case for removing monuments is that they exert a malign cultural influence, thereby bolstering all of that bad institutional racism, aren't the high-profile monuments exactly the ones you want to be going for?
Twitter has been gunning for Churchill today;
He also did Gallipoli though so does that even it out?
Not forgetting Dresden.
Yeah he bombed a lot of aryans, the best of the white folk.
Surely it's much easier to acknowledge every cunt was racist rather than trying to pick out individuals.Quote:
While some critics have equated Churchill's imperialism with racialism, belief in the racial superiority of the British was widespread during Churchill's lifetime, even among liberals and socialists, and Churchill as a man of his time also subscribed to such ideas.
We're going to need a spreadsheet if we're really going to settle this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
Anyone who thinks he caused or even exacerbated the Bengal famine ought to be ignored. There is enough suspect stuff in there without having to imagine things.
The League of Gentlemen has been canned as well because of Papa Lazarou. He's a supernatural being, not a blacked up man.
The Babadook will be next for the bin then.
Dumbo should be cut if they're doing all this.
Jim and the other crows aren't a good look.
Tom & Jerry and Looney Tunes will be gone as well.
I'm grinning at that. It might have the minstrel imagery but they're taking the piss out of their old Greek landlord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
It's like when Godfrey Elfwick got on the radio calling Star Wars racist because 'Dark Raider' listens to rap.
@Lewis
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-a9306611.htmlQuote:
ou don’t seem to have faced the outcry a lot of other comedy writers have despite creating controversial characters. In regards to Papa Lazarou, you’ve always said he was never intended to be blackface, but do you understand why people view it as such?
RS: I guess so. But it was never an existing character. It was not me doing a black man. It was always this clown-like make-up and we just came up with what we thought was the scariest idea to have in a sort of Child Catcher-like way. And I don’t think we ever had any complaintsthen.
SP: Even when we did the specials a couple of years ago and that character reappeared – I may be wrong, but I don’t think we had any complaints. People know that it was a character and the oddness and weird nature of that character doesn’t make you sit there and think, “What point are they trying to make?” It’s not a political thing at all.
RS: I think that’s evident. I hope it is. He is just an otherworldly human.
https://i.imgur.com/4UhZEyF.png
Genuinely moronic.
The real menace.
:D
Who is that dog?
... look at the pub.
That is excellent.
Was it a particularly racist dog?
"Greyfriars Bobby (May 4, 1855 – January 14, 1872) was a Skye Terrier who became known in 19th-century Edinburgh for spending 14 years guarding the grave of his owner until he died himself on 14 January 1872. The story continues to be well known in Scotland, through several books and films. A prominent commemorative statue and nearby graves are a tourist attraction."
I struggled with the Futurama episode enough :(
Just seen one of the other coppers (Thomas Lane) has posted his $750,000 bond and is out on bail. Fuck knows where you get that kind of money from. Made me consider the other three though. Do you find them guilty of aiding and abetting? Feels harsh. Obviously Chauvin has to go down, but I have a bit of sympathy for the other three, provided they've not done something I'm not aware of.
There was some chinaman cop in ome of the vids caught licking his lips and gagging to beat up some peaceful scum. Anyways, he was getting doxxed and turned out he made in excess of 200k as a cop last year or some shit. It seema with overtime and what not they're not doing too bad.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52998870
Ant and Dec fucked.
Finally, some good news to come out of all this.
Unless it was their first day on the job, yes. They'll have been trained to know 30 seconds on a man's neck is the limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellberg
Wasn't it one of their 3rd days on or something? What a way to start a 'career'.
:cab:
I saw another clip where someone was doing the knee on the neck and another cop forced him off, so there's no real excuse.
On the bond, I reckon some random white republican/Fox News host will just bail them out.
Rumours The Inbetweeners being removed from youtube might be linked. If they go there Raheem will be chased into the US to start his career as a music video twerk girl.
Top work to the piss weak cunts at Netflix on cancelling Chris Lilley.
This on the same day people want to pull down Captain Cook statues in Sydney. Imagine thinking those two blokes are in any way similiar.
They took down Lunatics? Fuck that shit. None of his characters were a different race at all. I'm guessing the feminists are riding this BLM wave too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Probably Jonah from TONGA got it all pulled down.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
Im sure people are exploiting BLM for all its worth.
This pathetic bullshit will just make people more racist.
Nick Mullen has made this cracker.
https://i.ibb.co/S7VZ32C/Screenshot-...-Instagram.jpg
Think the Inbetweeners one is just a snide Youtube page that was removed because it's on All4 and that Britbox thing, if that was ever cancelled E4 would be a blank screen for half the week.
I see Gladstone has gone under the bus as well.
I vaguely recall studying him (and Disraeli naturally) back in the day and was generally of the view that history judged both of them fairly well, on the whole. Son of a slave-owner though, so in the bin.
Gladstone under the bus but Nick Clegg dandy shilling for facebook. British liberalism in 2020.
Can we take this opportunity to shutdown the French subway system, too.
https://twitter.com/MarkHiggie1/stat...663541248?s=20
I mean you all know I don't have a racist bone in my body but it's hard not to think of a particular animal when you watch that. Thw two whities and their passiveness too :D
Fuck off you cunt.
That's the energy that umbrella guy is probably demonstrating on twitter when he gets home.
This is not a Bernard Manning set. Wind it in.
There's a lot of things wrong reflected in that clip. Obviously the clever cunts who feel alright to hang around filming and then actively participate (wonder if laddo captured himself kicking the copper on the ground in his vid?) Is a societal problem. The police being under resourced and underequipped is something that was warned about when May was Home Secretary. Fair play to the female officer but her bravery didn't help too much in the end, if she was a 6'4" fella the crowd might have been a bit more hesistant.
Just give all police MP5s and freefire authorisation :D
What the fuck are you getting tetchy for? I haven't said anything untoward. Look at Mbappe's [on the lime bike] behaviour. 1:06 and his movements :D
Honourable mention to the cries of "RACISM" whilst five of then jump one guy and some old dear whilst tooled up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofty
That old boy offering people out over the Robert Baden-Powell statue is top drawer. It ought to be a more difficult sell with it only have been there five minutes, but then I suppose people actually know who he is. Either way, I don't see 'Captain Tom' putting his neck on the line like them lads. Elsewhere:
It's like an optical illusion. Shadow or bursting head?
The Victorians are seething at the AFL players who took a knee before last nights game. Might as well call Victoria the most toxic State in the Country now.
These poor buggers have been up against it for a long time.
Im thinking it doesnt register in the West because white woke people cant indulge in performance art at the same time?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...nesia/12331580Quote:
The Black Lives Matter movement has inspired many indigenous minorities to speak out about systemic racism in their own countries, but in some countries like Indonesia, their cries remain largely unheard
This goes here I think.
https://www.sbs.com.au/nitv/article/...very-australiaQuote:
10 things you should know about slavery in Australia
I guess this means the guy near me who painted his old mk2 Escort in full Dukes of Hazard paint scheme has to be done in too.
Wait a second, the jocks have defaced the statue of Robert the Bruce at Bannockburn?
"Robert was a racist bring down the statue"
Class.
:D
When they say deface, did they just smear black paint on his face?
Lewis and his pals out in force :drool:
All out to protect statues hahahahaha what a weird country.
The Millwall, West Ham and Chelsea union is a beautiful sight. Seen some tasty vids already, would love to be in amongst it tonight after a few beers.
There's been a one man protest on the main road near me for a few days now. He has two signs, one which says 'Black Lives Matter' and another which says 'Sometimes'. He seems to just spend all day sliding the latter in and out from behind the former.
Excellent.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7McKaIXQAAmLnc.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Don
What are the Nazi salutes all those mongs do about? I know history teaching is poor enough there but come on.
Because they don’t actually care about the statue. They care about the people they don’t like caring about them.
Are you there in your UJ boxers?Quote:
Originally Posted by John
I do fear this argument (for want of a better word) has lost sight of what's actually important. Which is why nothing will change.
Mission accomplished, you mean? That's the impression I get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
In what sense is it mission accomplished?
Systemic racism will still be rife and those that are racist in authority will still abuse their power and get away with it.
But that's ok presumably, as a statue of Churchill is now living in a box.
Distracting from the real issues. I understand the divide of sorts with regards to Churchill but I'm not going to pretend I'm any sort of history buff other than knowing that he did as much bad as he did good for the time and we shouldn't hide from our history but embrace it, accept it, paint a true reflection of it for the time period and whack it in a museum for those interested. The sudden change in how white people are going about the BLM is proof enough that things won't change but then we knew that before the protests. It won't change because racism isn't as black and white as people would think, it's far more complex and because large amounts of uneducated, ignorant or too afraid to challenge things then nothing will change either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
UK is racist, it's a simple fact that we should accept. There is no disputing it init.
I think we're saying the same thing Smiff.
Ultimately, as soon as the movement focused on pissing about with statues it was game over.
I didn't even read the thread, I just waded in with my own opinion (as per) but yeah, you're right. I just see it as a deliberate act rather than a (un)fortunate set of events, I really do. Fully expecting a big kick off after 5pm because there is no way to police that when emotions are high.
Speaking of things that are 'of their time' I saw this beauty in the latest Bojo old article hatchet job, quoting him in 2002 about Uganda:
Fast forward 18 years and by crikey yes Waitrose stocks a whole range of jackfruit 'goodness'.Quote:
You will find fruits rare and strange, like the jackfruit, hanging bigger than your head and covered with green tetrahedral nodules. Though delicately perfumed, it is, alas, more or less disgusting, and not even Waitrose is pretentious enough to stock it
Top lads, keeping it largely peaceful.
Jackfruit products are everywhere now.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Don’t the unwashed use it as ‘pulled pork’?
I don't think we should confuse 'the movement' i.e. black Americans challenging the soft and hard power structures in that country in the wake of ongoing police brutality, with a load of largely white student crusty morons over here pulling a statue down out of boredom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yevrah
Unless I'm seeing different footage, it's arms in the air football chanting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Some of the videos of Lewis and John’s pals are amazing. Stella Artois will have made a fortune today
You must have. Just click the Nazi trending tab on Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
It’s hardly a new thing for the demographic anyway.
:d
I'm not seeing it. This is doing the rounds, but really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
I meant the movement in this country, but yeah, of course not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
I see pics like that of White vs Black conflict but I've not seen the vids. Dose me up Waff, I've got the tissues at the ready :drool:
There’s not much. Just the black dons running at random Lewis’
There must be a better TTH-relevant nickname for a complete idiot whose entire personality is their football affiliations.
What a bunch of Ants.
Feed me more :drool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
In amongst it? As a missile presumably?Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
I feel like the community aren't taking my fighting credentials seriously here.
It's because you try too hard and it seems to have bypassed that you that you're just not relevant around here any more.
Also, Taz > Don. Save your chitter chatter, Taz was always better.
I can't help but think if you took away the Daily Mail and the paper that shall not be named then you'd improve things in an instant. Such rags shouldn't be in circulation.
Guys, is he right? Am I not relevant any more? :(
Get your fucking toxicity out of my face, you POS.
You should have a scrap.
He wouldn't even eat a pube so I doubt he'll manage to swallow my fist.
You'd not make my top five returnees, Taz. :cool: Eat it.
I never understood why I got tarnished with that after having gone to all the trouble of doing so in picture format. Imagine doing all that and not even going through with it ffs.
Anyways, I'm not actually a fighter (the physical ability is undoubted ofc), what I am is a world class hype man. I'd be there bringing the trademark high-quality banter and then maybe chucking a bottle of piss or getting a sneaky kick in when the heavies have grounded a man.
You normally wouldn't even get odds on a Smiffy win, but if he's been starving since March you might have an outside chance.
Since March? I feel as though I've been stick and bones for years now and I doubt I'd be able to fight my way out of a wet paper bag but if I had been as hungry as I was in March then his chances remained at zero but I'd be known as Hannibal Smiff around these parts.
Taz would lose anyway, his nose means he doesn't nearly have enough reach.
There’s definitely some form of dementia at play there.
Hype man? You mean the snide little kid the bullies at school didn't really like but he hung around with them anyway and shouted insults from nearby when they beat someone up, thinking he looked hard?
You'd never catch Flava Flav with a man bun.
How do I embolden the weak to project such bitter negativity and general toxicity? Through hype, folks, unadulterated top-tier hype. Drink it in.
You're even more of a boring parody of your character than when you left.
Somebody send through an eviction notice and file a lawsuit cause mans unknowlingly squatting in these unoccupied heads.
“mans” :nono:
Is it a goal to sound like a fucking mong because you can’t be doing that by accident?
Taz is a necessity on this forum
I've always imagined the good people of south London use mans because 'men' is a bit homoerotic for their refined tastes.
We'll see the best of Taz/Don when the football is wall to wall.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53040301
How much of a cunt do you have to be to do that?
@Don :drool:
I saw a few 26-on-1s which just piss me off but that is what I'm talking about. If they spent the resources they do in policing this shit into just setting up some nice clean organised fighting like those Russian hooligan tournaments we could have this settled by the end of the month.
Is that twat still alive?
It's hard to feel too sorry for him, but he's probably going to have the book thrown at him to satisfy the NARRATIVE, which will be a bit excessive. Pissing 'at the memorial' is a bit of a stretch when it's right there and not actually getting pissed on, unlike the stuff which has directly been attacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
I’d be with Lewis on this. It’s going to be made into a much more massive deal than it is.
People want bite-sized, twitter-friendly symbols to be OUTRAGED about, rather than the more nuanced idea of hundreds of skinheads turning up to fight the police over I'm not sure what.
Boredom.
There's no pubs and no football (and therefore no gambling) which leaves the unimaginative wanker brigade without much to do.
Little Mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
You'd have to assume the grave pisser was ignorant as to where he was relieving himself, but what a fucking idiot/talk about your all time bad luck.
That's a very generous assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by niko_cee
Yet you're still trying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53044187
Burning down the Wendy's is pretty dumb.
I would say no one is that dumb, but yeah, maybe they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by mo
Memorial to a white copper killed by a non-white person doesn't seem a natural vent point for racist outrage.
Pretty sure it was some white girl that done it unless multiple ones got burnt upQuote:
Originally Posted by Shindig
Have to say that the minimal coverage of the ongoing protests despite them making The ‘million man march’ look like a county fair is a strong argument that the only way to get your point across is smashing shit up.
Cancelling a blokes last name is easily the worst attempt at cancelling to date. This cunt is a Brisbane comedian as well....
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/fo...ee19ef137d3361Quote:
Coon cheese: Comedian Josh Thomas says brand should be renamed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpirW1Vbz1oQuote:
British comedian Stephen K. Amos regularly performs a skit on Coon Cheese as part of his live show, due to the word "Coon" also being an ethnic slur used for black people in the United States.[12]
It's ... just a name, Stephen.
Oh dear
Type #Dijon into Twitter for some mad videos. Looks like Syria or some mad Eastern European country.
They love a riot
I read Algerians vs Chechens earlier, but Albanians seem to have been added to the mix since. My money would be on the Chechens, although I also saw that they've been bussing in from all around just to kick off, so the Algerians might be able to wait them out like they did Charles de Gaulle.
The tracksuits are a dead Russian giveaway, so my money is on Chechens.
Are there even Albanians in France? They’re all in Italy and Switzerland.
The Albanians fucking get about given there are only 2.8 million of them in Albania.
This is interesting on matey possibly/probably getting off with it, and the ex-military policeman at work reckons it checks out. If he did walk, would he be in line for a whopping pay out? It's not like he could go back to work even if he wanted to.
Imagine the scenes :drool:
Yeah, I saw a snippet of the autopsy mentioning the drugs in his system. Would losing his job be enough to stop a wonderful, wonderful public response?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-neomi-bennett
Policeman was not to know she was some PTSD-ridden bedwetter and seemed reasonable in his behaviour, your honour.
That's being awfully discriminatory. Also, some of the Floyd protesters are now going down with Covid. Inevitable.Quote:
In her opinion, they simply saw a black woman sitting in a car and asked her to get out to be searched.
How unhinged does one need to be?
That's just good trolling.
:D
Some serious production values on show there.
That's quality.
A+, would watch again.
:cool:
https://oklahoman.com/article/566492...amendment-walkQuote:
Black gun owners plan pro-Second Amendment walk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Queenslander
Yeah, this will end really well.
Do we know if he runs his tweets through anyone or is it literally DJT himself on his Samsung S9 tweeting from the loo?
I'm half expecting it. It's like a badly written story where you know what's coming next.
Given the size of his ego I'd be amazed if it's not him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
If it was the former you'd think they'd weed out some of the utter gibberish and insane structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Floyd
His Supreme Court reaction yesterday '(where hopefully they would stand for our great American Flag)' was genuinely funny.
If he gets through his two terms without something being thrown at him, I'll be stunned. Everybody loves the Bush shoe dodge but I can't see Donald having those reflexes.
He can't even lift a glass to his face without using both hands, agility is not his thing.
I'm sure there is a device disparity between him and his people. I think his advisors tweet out from the iPhone. Imagine having to consult the Trump style guide to make sure they fit. "Now, he capitalises every word and has to end on a one-word sentence."
https://www.theguardian.com/society/...te-peers-study
Relentless. There's got to be some seriously good money in publishing these 'studies'.
Fairs fair, this is great.
Doesn't exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco
So it seems like Trump got trolled by K-pop into believing that one million people were going to come to his first rally in Tulsa, in reality 6,000 came and the stadium was half empty. You couldn't make this stuff up.
https://time.com/5856720/rumps-tulsa...s-tiktok-kpop/
It was him theatrically drinking a glass of water with just one hand.
And then chucking it on the floor. The hero this world deserves.
Gotta keep hydrated if you're spending your free time pissing on hookers
Especially if one of his advisers told him it keeps the Covid away.
Best one yet.
https://i.ibb.co/GMh5XZs/FB-IMG-1592868006491.jpg
:D
Well.
That's so good. The footage of the scenes that played out to support him on the news yesterday were like the cheesiest Hollywood film ever conceived. Him being pushed to the front of the grid by 100 odd people and then breaking down in tears.
Oh that's why Donald wins.
Superb. I know UK mandem who bought into this Q shit too tbf.
Trump is a genius.
The Joe-mentum is going to roll right over him.
https://twitter.com/emilyadusei/stat...459601420?s=20
Are they reclaiming monkey noises?
I recognize this woman from somewhere, but I forget where. I think she's part of some group that knowingly trolls with the most insane conspiracy theories for the clicksQuote:
Originally Posted by Kikó
Holy shit, after that he returned in this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebkn_7rU...jpg&name=large
'disguise' to film their reaction :lol:
EDIT: Never mind that's not him apparently.
Not a good look seppos!!!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...atter/12404958Quote:
Australian journalist Amelia Brace testifies before US Congress about being struck by police during Black Lives Matter protest
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/06...ngs-june-2020/Quote:
There had been at least 58 shootings in New York City in the last seven days before this weekend, according to the NYPD.
Pretty sure he's too late, but christ I wish it wasn't. :drool:
If he's not too late that'd be a strong pro-racism move.
The US being done in by a succession of wanker celebrity presidents would be almost too perfect.
You can’t call him a wanker, he’s black.
I think Trump's covid strategy is to the let it run wild, blame China and, by extension, make Americans hate China more for his incompetence.
You imbecileQuote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
You can't call him an imbecile, he's Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugbull
You can call us whatever you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Alright, my gigga.
He'd definitely appoint himself Poet Laureate.
If Kanye does enter the race he will likely cut Biden off at the knees for the key demographics he needs to beat Trump.
As hilarious as a Trump meltdown after losing an election would be I am quite intrigued about what America looks like after another 4 years of him, given the state of it now.
He can't even run in every state yet can he, so it's all just publicity bollocks anyway. Not that he'd have a hope in hell of winning if it was serious.
Just another nail in the "America is fucked" coffin.
I'm amazed that Kanye is doing something 'wacky' a week after announcing his new album. Time to talk alot about it.
:DQuote:
He does not appear to have registered his name with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) for November's election. The closest name the FEC database shows is a candidate called "Kanye Deez Nutz West", who filed their papers with the Green Party in 2015 under the address "1977 Golddigger Avenue, Suite Yeezus" and appears to have raised no money.
:lol:
:D
Describing the Washington Redskins as a fabled sports franchise is a bigger tell than all the overt racism.
Will Major League (the film) now get cancelled? Would be a shame.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53332251
He added: "I'm gonna use the framework of Wakanda right now because it's the best explanation of what our design group is going to feel like in the White House."
:D
Was I missing some sort of point with that film or was it not a fair bit more racist than most of the stuff they've pulled off the screens lately?
Racist how?
Either way it was written by two black guys, directed by one of the two and basically the entire cast was black people so if it is somehow racist they really dropped the ball.
He’s probably going to claim it was racist against whites or summat
Shit movie tho, tbf
It was good but nowhere near as good as reviews made it out to be.
It's tier 2 in Marvel movies.
Just all the tribe stuff seemed a bit off, especailly stuff like the challenge to the throne etc scenes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Yeah wasn't great at all. By the reviews I was probably expecting way too much though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Andy Mahowry
It's Marvel, that should have been enough of a tip off.
Fuck you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
I never got that. If they're the most advanced civilisation on the planet, why do they still have an absolute monarch and weird tribal politics like some sub-Saharan Saudi Arabia? That BBC series about what if Africa had colonised Europe has the black-dominated society being all corrupt and caste-based as well, as if black people would inevitably have been just that little bit less capable and humanistic in this alternative reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggles
Well, I certainly trust 9 seconds of this unfinished incident. Not saying that's all there is to it but some shit could've gone down after the camera's rolled.
I’d come to terms with America’s biggest patriots being hypocrites but the 2nd amendment people being silent while unidentifiable officers in unmarked cars load protestors into vans against the will of local and state governors has to be a new low.
I’ve spent way too long coming up with plans for an anti-American state cell like the right have had since the Oklahoma bombing but I always end it thinking that it would just make things worse. How could it get those though?
There's a Trump interview out and it's gold. At one point he bangs on about the very hard test he took and the interviewee says he also took that test and it asked him to identify an elephant and count backwards from 100.
The telling part is that he didn't hawk that interview on his Twitter, which I guess means even he knows it went badly.
He's still banging on about that fucking test :D
This has been pulled from Trumps own account because of a Linkin Park copyright strike, but it was up there for a good bit and regardless of political leanings it's the most confusing mess I've ever seen. What is it supposed to evoke? Fear? Pride?
Needs more tanks.
Loving the Ebony and Ivory bit incongruously chucked in seconds from the end.
That's a belter of a promo vid. You're giving too much credit to people. They pay to watch Marvel films, they don't need much. Plus the conspiracy theorists are allergic to coherence.
:D
This really is top level shithousery, isn't it?
Can you get odds on Twitter banning him the day after he loses the election?
Some days I find him amusing, but then I remember he's the President of the United States. Ultimately he's a deranged twat and it should be a source of national political shame that he got elected in the first place, let alone has a chance of winning a second term.
Exactly that. He would be funny if he wasn't in the position he wasn't such a massive racist. I hope he loses and some normality can resume.
I want him to lose but refuse to go, that would be the most interesting outcome.
Pretty sure that's what will happen. If the elections even happen at all.
"Oh, Florida fucked the ballot again? Shit."
Finished listening to the latest NY Times podcast where it had a clip of Trump saying that Seattle and Portland are worse than Afganistan.
Not a single fuck.
Kamala Harris will be announced as Bidens VP on August 1st. Politico just announced it by mistake.
Terrible choice and gives an alley oop for whatever Republican runs against Biden when he quits after one term.
Yeah, that’s a fuck up
If your focus groups tell you that you have to pick a black woman, any black woman. Going with the 'tough on crime' 'did worse than tulsi gabbard in the decomratic primary' black woman from the state you won by 4 million votes last time is great politics.
Isn't she the only recognisable one who isn't crap and/or liable to say something stupid that he won't be able to answer questions about? The thought of him being the Binman-in-Chief and just recruiting 2008-16 people who 'know the White House' is sort of lol until you remember all of the spastic interventionists.
I guess the Dems dont need the black vote?
I would have gone with Barbara Lee but then I'm an actual human being who's interested in politics rather than the absolute psychopaths these people call staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis
As someone who's worked with them. The Thick Of It/Veep didn't even get near it. They're not human these staffers. You spend half the meeting time wondering whether they're going to shed their skin and confirm they're lizard people.
Black people don't even like Kamala Harris
It’s not to get black people to vote for them. It’s to get white people who want to show they like black people. It’s why black woman was the answer. It’s performative white people shjt.
Nah, it’s to get black people to vote. The performative white people types are gonna be voting and voting Dem, no matter what. It’s the black turnout they’re trying to invigorate
Have we seen Kamala's birth certificate yet?
Why is Phonics suddenly pretending to be rubbing shoulders with the US Political Elite as if we don't know he makes posters for an AIDS charity for a living?
Who do you think designed the Space Force logo?
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
He does seem to be bringing it up fairly often at the minute.
Part of my job is literally producing interviews them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Question, Why do you feel the need to demean people in the way you do? Does it make you feel better or something? Anyone you don’t like is thick or a nobody. It’s such weird projection.
:D Calm down. Don't get the FBI on me.
His mates in the FBI.
How do people manage to post on here for over a decade and continue to take themselves seriously, not least in the face of a post about work by a melt called 'Spikeymouse'. Come on folks, we must do better.
:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spikey M
Nah, continue being twats, it's funnier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
Canceling Spikey is off-limits. That's my Rubicon
Lychee is mine.
Is Build Back Better his campaign slogan?
Herman Cain, a member of Trumps cabinet has died of corona. He got sick shortly after attending a Trump Rally
Lol
The senate failing to agree an extension of the coronavirus bill and then agreeing to vote on making it National Blueberry Month is proper failed state stuff.
I'm coming round to [functional] failed state futures. A few years ago I would have said that America would still be top dog in 2050, but now I'm tending more towards it either splitting up or slowly drifting into being a slightly wealthier Brazil (or comparable corrupt perma-toilet). Either way, not the 'reliable' (relatively speaking) global presence it has been with a stake in European defence and the like.
The Daily Mail(?) has the George Floyd arrest footage, and the coppers are definitely walking.
Oo-eck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don
They definitely will, or at least only get the hit by the lowest charges they face.
New footage or what? I don't wanna break my DM ban for this, link to youtube/twitter or something please.
Genuinely looked like an episode from The Chaser.
https://youtu.be/zaaTZkqsaxY
The interviewer really seems like he’s acting in something with all the expressions and eye rolls, playing a part. It would have been so much stronger with a professional doing the job. The stupid camera work does nothing for it either.
Trump looks like a madman without a coherent thought in his head. Shuffling his shit graphs rather than being able to recall the information that supports his position. He really is just a big fucking baby.