Who Will Win The League?

[Baz]

This is how the top of the current Premier League table stands:


http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/ykoreval.png

I think we'll all be very surprised if someone other than Leicester or Spurs win it; probably anyone other than Leicester, quite honestly.

I came across this article (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3502599/Tottenham-chasing-Premier-League-leaders-Leicester-main-title-contenders-compare-comes-tactics-star-men-final-fixtures.html) comparing the run of fixtures for the top two teams.

Both have seven games left to play:

Leicester
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
West Ham (H)
Swansea (H)
United (A)
Everton (H)
Chelsea (A)


For Leicester, 17 is now the magic number. Any combination of Tottenham points dropped and Leicester points won that reaches that figure, wins them the title. 21 points are on the table.

From the reverse fixtures earlier in the season, Leicester took 17 points off the teams they face in the run-in, beating all of the teams they still have to face aside from draws with Manchester United and Southampton.

Spurs
Liverpool (A)
United (H)
Stoke (A)
West Brom (H)
Chelsea (A)
Southampton (H)
Newcastle (A)


Tottenham, meanwhile, took 10 points from their remaining opponents. That includes a defeat by Manchester United and only beating Southampton and Newcastle with the rest as draws - although it does not account for the obvious improvement they have shown.

Of the seven remaining gameweeks, Leicester play first in four, the final day kicks off simultaneously, while the penultimate weekend’s TV games are yet to be decided.

That could be perceived as an advantage, with Spurs having to wait until their rivals pile the pressure on before them. But if Tottenham can beat Liverpool on Saturday, April 2, the tension is ramped up for Leicester’s game against Southampton a day later

Leicester clearly have the easier run of games, and their record in the reverse fixtures swings it greatly in their favour, but I dunno - some part of me thinks Spurs might just do it. :uhoh:

Also I thought I'd add this, the league table from the same point in the year, when Liverpool looked like winning it before Gerrard let it slip away:


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So at this point, it was Man City's to lose and Chelsea sat top. But with two games to go (three for some) it looked like this:


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http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/q8oex42h.png

http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/2ujgoyu7.png

http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/m9vwpjur.png

:cry:

Anyway, back to this season. So long as Kane stays fit, there's a chance Spurs could win the league. If that happened, would Leicester receive any ridicule for letting it go so late? Or would everyone be too disappointed to make fun of them? It seems like every "neutral" wants Leicester to win it, even with a gypo scally like Vardy up-front. :arry:

Also, is it too early to be writing off Arsenal and City? They still have to play eachother, at the Etihad, and then have another seven games on top of that.

Arsenal
Watford (H)
West Ham (A)
Palace (H)
West Brom (H)
Sunderland (A)
Norwich (H)
City (A)
Aston Villa (H)

City
Bournemouth (A)
West Brom (H)
Chelsea (A)
Newcastle (A)
Stoke (H)
Southampton (A)
Arsenal (H)
Swansea (A)
+at least 2 champions league games vs PSG

If Arsenal win all their games they'd finish on 79 points.
If Man City win all their games they'd finish on 75 points.
If Spurs win all their games they'd finish on 82 points.
If Leicester win all their games they'd finish on 87 points.

In 2015 Chelsea won the league with 87 points:
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In 2014 Man City won the league with 86 points:
http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/0tn6bivh.png

In 2013 Man Utd won the league with 89 points:
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In 2012 Man City won the league with 89 points:
http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/rmxl94ba.png

And in 2011 Man Utd won the league with just 80 points:
http://www.littlemonstersforum.co.uk/images/q/afbdquh1.png

Arsenal winning it with 79 points would be something special, both in terms of Spurs and Leicester's downfall, and completely undeservedly winning the title. :drool:


I'll add a poll but I'm sure it'll be ~95% Leicester, with the Arsenal contingent picking their lot. If somehow Leicester mess up, it'll be interested to see who predicted it.

Also the next Premier League games aren't until 2nd April. How rubbish is that!

[Magic]

Great thread Baz.

[Lee]

We'll win it, I think. Probably before the last game too.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Leicester will do it. There's no way on this earth that Spurs have it in them not to drop points from those fixtures.

[Giggles]

Arsenal.

[leedsrevolution]

I think Leicester will do it. But I wil be happy with anyone other than City. I don't think Leicester would get the Liverpool treatment of they blew it. If they finish in the top 3 it's an outstanding achievement.

[Browning]

That 17 points stat is ridiculously flawed, unless we are all just assuming it's a two horse race.

[Spammer]

I'm winning £25 if Leicester and Burton win their leagues.

[Davgooner]

Leicester have been scraping by, but Southampton will stop that and then it's on for the Middlesex mob, at which point I up my preparations for emigrating to a small pacific island with poor communication links.

[Davgooner]

Giggles probably truly believes that as well, the weirdo.

[Pepe]

What I want to know is which is the better team.

[Davgooner]

There's no way of telling.

[Giggles]

Giggles probably truly believes that as well, the weirdo.

I've done what?

EDIT: Oh Arsenal? I think they're the only ones from the three (I'm discounting City as too far back) that are equipped to do anything when it comes to the crunch. To far into unknown territory for Leicester who will have to feel the pressure soon, and Tottenham as a club are just spineless when any form of success is dangled under their nose.

[Yevrah]

I've done what?

EDIT: Oh Arsenal? I think they're the only ones from the three (I'm discounting City as too far back) that are equipped to do anything when it comes to the crunch.

How in the name of fuck have you come to that conclusion? They've been bottling it for 10 years. :cab:

[mugbull]

There's definitely a bottle table, in which Arsenal are 5th but Spurs are 15th and Leicester are wildcarding up and down so we don't know anything about them.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Davgooner]

How in the name of fuck have you come to that conclusion? They've been bottling it for 10 years. :cab:

I fucking knew you'd be straight on that. :D

[Giggles]

How in the name of fuck have you come to that conclusion? They've been bottling it for 10 years. :cab:

It's not just Arsenal we're taking about here though.

[Yevrah]

It's not just Arsenal we're taking about here though.

It's not. I'll give you Spurs, but how can you possibly know Leicester are going to be as bottly?

[Giggles]

It's not. I'll give you Spurs, but how can you possibly know Leicester are going to be as bottly?

Exactly. None of us do, so it's all down to opinion. Mine is that they will feel the strain and fall away.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Arsenal are 11 points behind. That is simply far too big a gap.

People have been saying Leicester will fall away since October and it simply has not happened, nor has it particularly looked like happening.

[Josh]

I think Leicester will win it but I had a little go at the predictor and it came out like this. Leicester need to change one of my predicted draws into a win.

http://i.imgur.com/t3r4PDi.jpg

[Magic]

Spurs will win it.

[Lewis]

There was a good letter on Football365 earlier about how BT might be stuffed if our Champions' League include Leicester and West Ham, so the latter getting fourth would be quite lol. Then again, 'LvG' getting fourth and mouthing off would be equally so. City missing out entirely... It's really all about fourth now.

[Disco]

It better be Leicester after all this, I shall be most of annoyed if it turns out to be one of the other boring options, Arsenal especially.

[Vim]

Spurs is a very not boring option, that's the thing. I want to see Ranieri do it, but Spurs winning the league with such a young squad would also be really great.

It's probably been said a million times, but if Arsenal don't win the league (and it looks like they won't) in the year where all the other top teams are shit then when will they win it ...

[Magic]

I think Leicester will win it but I had a little go at the predictor and it came out like this. Leicester need to change one of my predicted draws into a win.

http://i.imgur.com/t3r4PDi.jpg

Being punished by all those shite 1-0 wins. :drool:

[Lee]

All five of them. :drool:

Hope they punish us for the eight wins in which we've scored three or more too. :drool:

[Magic]

The seethe/meltdown when Leicester fuck it up from Lee and Max is going to be utterly glorious. I almost want the Yids to win.

[ScousePig]

Leicester.

And it's fucking incredible.

[ScousePig]

What I want to know is which is the better team.

Overall Spurs are better than Leicester, but Leicester will win the league

:pards:

[Lee]

The seethe/meltdown when Leicester fuck it up from Lee and Max is going to be utterly glorious. I almost want the Yids to win.

I'm not sure there will be one. I'll be gutted immediately after not winning it of course, given that we'll likely not get the chance again, but we are basically guaranteed a top two finish and automatic Champions' League qualification. No matter what, this season will have been brilliant.

If we don't win it, it's going to be Spurs. I like Spurs and they're still a club outside of the usual suspects. If they manage to overhaul us from here they'll be worthy of it.

[Magic]

Of course mate, because 4th was all that mattered. :rolleyes:

[Magic]

Look at you being all modest and humble. You fucking loser. No wonder the consultants think you're a mug and properly take the piss.

[Lee]

Of course mate, because 4th was all that mattered. :rolleyes:

Silly me, as a fan of Leicester fucking City, scarcely being able to believe we might win the league for most of the season.

And the the consultants are refusing to talk to me (lol) precisely because I'm the opposite of those things. Entitled cunts.

[Davgooner]

I like Spurs

For fuck sake.

Maybe it's just London that hates the cunts.

[niko_cee]

Everyone ought to hate Spurs. Maybe it's a generational thing.

Hopefully Liverpool can put pay to their season, although they are overdue a win against us.

[Reg]

I've never felt at all strongly about Spurs in any way. I kind of liked that side with van der Vaart and Crouch.

Leicester will win it. Then Man City will win it next season.

[Disco]

Why do people hate Spurs? Other than the normal local rivalry rubbish I mean.

[Jeet]

Arsenal have been given a warchest again! Same one from 2008 and every other year, why doesn't it increase?

I think the title race will come down to the last day of the season - Spurs GD will be a huge advantage

[Smiffy]

.....

[ScousePig]

Why do people hate Spurs? Other than the normal local rivalry rubbish I mean.

Horrible place, horrible fans.

[Giggles]

Ideas above their station too I suspect. Their fans generally think they're a lot bigger than they actually are. Liverpool and, to a lesser extent, Newcastle would fit that bill too.

[Disco]

How though? I mean Ledley was a bit odd sometimes but that's a pretty small sample.

Edit: Ah ok, cheers Classic Giggles.

[The Merse]

Why do people hate Spurs? Other than the normal local rivalry rubbish I mean.

They're horrible cunts with a ridiculously inflated collected ego about being the beautiful bridesmaid and deserving more and a huge chip on their shoulder.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Spurs are ghastly. Arsenal are far worse nowadays though. It was not ever thus.

[ItalAussie]

I'm just a touch nervous that voting for Leicester will jinx it.

What a crazy season we have, that Spurs winning the league would be seen as a let-down. Any other season, and it's one for the history books.

[niko_cee]

Why do people hate Spurs? Other than the normal local rivalry rubbish I mean.

Well, aside from the blindingly (depressingly) obvious?


Ideas above their station too I suspect. Their fans generally think they're a lot bigger than they actually are. Liverpool and, to a lesser extent, Newcastle would fit that bill too.

Yeah, probably this.

[John]

I know one person who actually wants Spurs to win the league, with the stated reason that Leicester are only up there because the bigger teams have been crap. I've lolled at him just enough to get him entrenched in that bonkers reasoning, so hopefully there's a decent seethe to come when Leicester do it.

[GS]

I want Leicester to win, but as stated several times now I remain convinced that they will, somehow, fuck it up.

[Ian]

I want Leicester to win because it would be the more absurd thing to happen. Spurs would be a fine plan B.

[Davgooner]

Why do people hate Spurs? Other than the normal local rivalry rubbish I mean.

They're supported by the biggest bunch of cunts ever known. Most match-going fans certainly have strong feelings about them.

[Kikó]

Yeah but enough about Arsenal... !

[Davgooner]

Lol.

You can have a look at the stuff before the NLD the other week for example.

[Disco]

They're supported by the biggest bunch of cunts ever known. Most match-going fans certainly have strong feelings about them.

What do they actually do (other than what people have already posted) that's worse than fans of other clubs though?

[Disco]

Well, aside from the blindingly (depressingly) obvious?

Do you mean the Jewish thing? I rather hoped people on here weren't that silly.

[Josh]

I don't mind Spurs. A lot of English players getting game time and I like their pressing style so they are good to watch.

They have plenty of retard fans but then what team doesn't?

[ScousePig]

What do they actually do (other than what people have already posted) that's worse than fans of other clubs though?

It's one of the only fooball grounds I've been to where I've genuinely felt a little edgy around the ground. They're rough, arrogant and the whole area is a shithole.

[Davgooner]

What do they actually do (other than what people have already posted) that's worse than fans of other clubs though?

They're rent-a-mob. They can fairly say that they don't have as many shirters in their match-going support as most other clubs, but the result of that is every single one of them thinks they're firm and acts accordingly. There's no other club with a similar reputation for dishing out beatings to scarfers, while being slightly less keen when faced with like-minded individuals.

[John]

It's like Sean never left.

[John Arne]

Shirters and scarfers,
'Aint what we're about,
Come on down to white hart lane,
We'll skin you like a trout

[Davgooner]

If the wording offends, feel free to edit.

[Disco]

I'll bite, what are shirters and scarfers? Apart from the obvious.

[Magic]

They're rent-a-mob. They can fairly say that they don't have as many shirters in their match-going support as most other clubs, but the result of that is every single one of them thinks they're firm and acts accordingly. There's no other club with a similar reputation for dishing out beatings to scarfers, while being slightly less keen when faced with like-minded individuals.

Millwall.

[Davgooner]

Maybe, but even then I'm not sure they'd really care about the average fans who just want to get their heads down and go to the game.

[Baz]

I'll bite, what are shirters and scarfers? Apart from the obvious.
It's just what it sounds like - people who go the game in their teams shirt or who have a scarf to hold up.

[mugbull]

What a joke, Arsenal is a joke and the Emirates are a joke, the way they've dealt with Wenger back and forth is a massive joke, and the way they're convinced they're being financially outmuscled by other teams while nonetheless being one of the wealthiest clubs around is a deluded joke.

All teams have shit fans, but Arsenal's situation is tragic.

[leedsrevolution]

What a joke, Arsenal is a joke and the Emirates are a joke.

What is it?

[leedsrevolution]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/50264300.jpg

[Baz]

What is it?How else do you think he rang the doorbell?!

[Giggles]

With Spurs track record of bottling, the irony one of their fans calling anyone a joke is rather large.

[John]

For clarity, there is no deleted post between those two Stool posts.

[Magic]

:D

He's fucking pissed again.

[Disco]

Bottling is almost winning something, Tottenham have barely been in contention for anything for years.

[leedsrevolution]

They were meant to be in the same post. But I posted the first post, then I couldn't be arsed editing the first post so made a second post. You then made that post and here we are.

[Magic]

It's far more plausible to believe LR was demoted, sacked or is just an habitual liar than believe he's legitimately handed out business advice to people.

[leedsrevolution]

http://i.imgur.com/oGRGLwv.png

Dickhead

[Disco]

I dunno, he seems like he could have had a breakdown.

[leedsrevolution]

It's far more plausible to believe LR was demoted, sacked or is just an habitual liar than believe he's legitimately handed out business advice to people.

Financial advise.

[Magic]

That's even worse.

[leedsrevolution]

Mate I love some OICS / Gilts and erm, with profit endowment policies.

[John]

I know a few financial advisors and they all have drink problems. None of them look like an ice cream on a warm day but that's not the point.

[Davgooner]

What a joke, Arsenal is a joke and the Emirates are a joke, the way they've dealt with Wenger back and forth is a massive joke, and the way they're convinced they're being financially outmuscled by other teams while nonetheless being one of the wealthiest clubs around is a deluded joke.

All teams have shit fans, but Arsenal's situation is tragic.

In what way has anyone been 'back and forth' on Wenger? He's had nothing but support for 20 years. Your adopted club on the other hand...

Nothing you've said relates to our fans at all. Aren't you also Czech, mate? Your opinion on matters will be given the respect it deserves.

[leedsrevolution]

I know a few financial advisors and they all have drink problems. None of them look like an ice cream on a warm day but that's not the point.

http://cdn.skim.gs/image/upload/v1456347417/msi/4-chocolate-dipped-cake-con_tetv8e.jpg

Other than the dunce hat I'm currently wearing I see no resemblance to be honest.

[Magic]

Try a vanilla one.

[Giggles]

In what way has anyone been 'back and forth' on Wenger? He's had nothing but support for 20 years. Your adopted club on the other hand...

Nothing you've said relates to our fans at all. Aren't you also Czech, mate? Your opinion on matters will be given the respect it deserves.

Lol, not in the firm mate.

[leedsrevolution]

Try a vanilla one.

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/110679411-melting-ice-cream-cone-in-hand-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=giCPTNqMzdNgSQxSXDYZ6ulDEjhAp68mwABA3M9nKxBaOGgw bgF5o9blHmTsFqaZDra%2BGnpEfRRICEapY19dSQ%3D%3D

Reminds me of some lonely Friday nights but that's it.

[mugbull]

In what way has anyone been 'back and forth' on Wenger? He's had nothing but support for 20 years. Your adopted club on the other hand...

Nothing you've said relates to our fans at all. Aren't you also Czech, mate? Your opinion on matters will be given the respect it deserves.

What :D Your fans are massive dickheads to Arsene, he's having a breakdown as we speak.

We're not among the best clubs in England but we never claim to be. You aren't either, but you do claim to be. Rare!

[Davgooner]

Just don't see it. Four guys holding up a banner every two years is hardly an uprising. The main criticism of our fanbase is that we've been too loyal to AW.

The perception thing is schoolboy stuff.

[niko_cee]

Since when are Arsenal not one of the best teams in England? By virtually every measure they are. No European Cup, I suppose.

[mugbull]

They're not at the top level, clearly. Haven't won the league in over a decade, haven't won the CL and rarely get past the quarterfinals there.

[Kikó]

How many times have they not finished as one of the best four teams in the country in the last 20 years?

[Jeet]

Really jealous of Mousa Dembele being at Spurs, been Spurs best player for me 2nd half of the season. Wish we grabbed him from Fulham. Perfect player to play next to the Coq who can drive forward and can put his foot in.

[Davgooner]

Well that came out of nowhere.

[Giggles]

He's a funny case as he was pretty dirt when he first signed for them and has only fulfilled a bit of the potential this season.

[Andy]

They're supported by the biggest bunch of cunts ever known. Most match-going fans certainly have strong feelings about them.

They are horrible cunts. Got spat at by some gypo outside WHL before we where relegated. Hate the place. The jew in charge doesn't help things either.

[Smiffy]

.....

[mugbull]

He's a funny case as he was pretty dirt when he first signed for them and has only fulfilled a bit of the potential this season.

He was always fine, just not really given the license. He's been easily our best player this year, so 'fulfilled a bit of the potential' is not giving him the credit where it's due, but i guess that's just a trope with you

[Giggles]

He was always fine, just not really given the license. He's been easily our best player this year, so 'fulfilled a bit of the potential' is not giving him the credit where it's due, but i guess that's just a trope with you


Enlighten me.

EDIT: Ah, cliche. Maybe it's somewhere in between. He's nearly been shipped out a couple of times before this season.

[niko_cee]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35901725

:D

[Charlie]

Asians are idiots.

[Jeet]

I'm sure those girls with their massive tits played no part in persuading them to support Leicester.

[Angelsaint]

Why are they idiots? Because they can relate with a club? I am not a ManU fan but have loads of sympathy because of Ole.

Also Asian girls <3

[Davgooner]

"I have been a Leicester fan since the beginning"

And yet you've got twats like Lee depriving this lot of tickets. It's not right.

[Charlie]

Why are they idiots? Because they can relate with a club? I am not a ManU fan but have loads of sympathy because of Ole.

Also Asian girls <3

No, because they are just idiots in general.

[Giggles]

Didn't realise until I seen a tweet this morning that Arsenal were such good odds for the title. Stuck 50 quid on at 6/1.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Arsenal will have to win ALL their games, Leicester will have to claim no more than 12 of the available 21 points, and Spurs no more than 17. I'd sooner get on Lord Lucan for next England manager at those odds.

[Giggles]

Arsenal will have to win ALL their games, Leicester will have to claim no more than 12 of the available 21 points, and Spurs no more than 17. I'd sooner get on Lord Lucan for next England manager at those odds.

One of those teams is Spurs and Leicester just can't, can they?

[Jimmy Floyd]

The Arsenal winning all their games part is the biggest problem. If they lose one it goes down to Leicester needing 9 points and I'm pretty sure they will get that.

[Spikey M]

Leicester have been poor their last 2 games and still won both. People have been waiting for their colapse all season, it aint happening. The title is theirs.

Should they crumble, it's still theirs. Spurs & Arsenal will drop points too. City are the only non-bottle merchants anywher near, and they decided to coat their manager off mid-season. Hopefully they'll miss out on Champions League now, such is the mongery of that decision.