The BAFTAs 2016

[Yevrah]

It's that time of year again when the British Academy of Film and Television give more British actors awards than strictly deserve it.

It's on BBC1 at 9, but as every year it's not live (why?) so no 'spoilers' please.

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's not live so they can edit it, obviously.

Is it still Stephen Fry hosting? He causes me pain.

[Toby]

The Lobster, directed in Ireland by a Greek man, is nominated for best British film. I know a British production company was involved but so were producers from about seventeen other countries.

[Toby]

Is it still Stephen Fry hosting? He causes me pain.

Dela was bang on about Fry all those years ago, when he bemoaned his ubiquity and, in not so many words, basically called him an arsehole. Almost the whole board told him he was wrong, but he was not wrong.

[Lee]

Is Fry an arsehole? He always seems very nice to me. I know he can be a knob when he's depressed, but that's depressed people for you.

[GS]

I once read Stephen Fry being described as a stupid person's idea of a smart person, which I thought was quite apt.

[Yevrah]

It's not live so they can edit it, obviously.


And why does it need to be edited?

[Toby]

Is Fry an arsehole? He always seems very nice to me. I know he can be a knob when he's depressed, but that's depressed people for you.

Not an arsehole in the sense of being nasty or even unpleasant, but I think the main suggestion was that he'd let his newfound popularity go to his head a bit too much.

EDIT: Found dela's take on it: http://www.thedugout.tv/community/showpost.php?p=2975990&postcount=49

[Yevrah]

I once read Stephen Fry being described as a stupid person's idea of a smart person, which I thought was quite apt.

That's Russell Brand, surely.

Fry's cool, although he's clearly piled on the pounds since getting hitched.

[Lee]

I once read Stephen Fry being described as a stupid person's idea of a smart person, which I thought was quite apt.

But he is quite a clever chap.

EDIT: Yev's nailed it with Brand, who is a posing dickhead.

[Yevrah]

Not an arsehole in the sense of being nasty or even unpleasant, but I think the main suggestion was that he'd let his newfound popularity go to his head a bit too much.

Or people stopped liking him when he went mainstream.

[Giggles]

But he is quite a clever chap.

Yes but now he's gained some popularity the likes of people like GS can't be seen to enjoy him anymore.

[Toby]

I don't think Russell Brand would be anybody's go to image of "that smart man on telly".

[Yevrah]

I don't think Russell Brand would be anybody's go to image of "that smart man on telly".

You think wrongly - Idiots clearly think he's smart.

[GS]

Yes but now he's gained some popularity the likes of people like GS can't be seen to enjoy him anymore.

I'm completely indifferent on Fry as I couldn't tell you anything I've seen him in with the exception of Blackadder and fleeting panel show appearances.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I don't mind Fry but I'd rather he stuck to being creative, making comedy and acting and whatever he wants to do. I don't know why he has to spend his time trying to be a man of letters.

[Toby]

You think wrongly - Idiots clearly think he's smart.

Even if we accept that, he's not a "stupid person's idea of a smart person". You might listen to him speak and think he's smart, but you certainly wouldn't have him as the archetype of an intelligent comedian.

[Yevrah]

Even if we accept that, he's not a "stupid person's idea of a smart person". You might listen to him speak and think he's smart, but you certainly wouldn't have him as the archetype of an intelligent comedian.

If you're a stupid person you wouldn't even know what archetype meant.

Stupid people think Russell Brand's smart, it's as clear as day. You don't, because you're not stupid.

[Magic]

How's the whites-to-blacks ratio looking so far chaps?

[Magic]

I bet dquincy think's Russel Brand is a smart TV personality/comedian. Can't believe that fucker is probably the best paid on here imo.

[Toby]

If you're a stupid person you wouldn't even know what archetype meant.

Stupid people think Russell Brand's smart, it's as clear as day. You don't, because you're not stupid.

I'm not saying they would, what I was clumsily trying to get it is that if you asked the average Briton to name, "that smart guy comedian", Stephen Fry would probably be the most common answer. I expect Russell Brand wouldn't feature particularly high on the list, whatever his fleeting popularity among wannabe-rebellious young voters.

[Yevrah]

I still really need to see Amy.

[Magic]

Most 'good' comedians are pretty smart, and that probably includes bilge like McIntyre and Bishop. I wouldn't class Fry as a comedian, though.

[Yevrah]

That's the first clip I've seen of Mad Max since I made the abysmal decision to go to the cinema to see it. It made me feel a bit queasy.

[Lee]

Fuck me, the Leader of the Opposition did actually go to Russell Brand's house during an election campaign, didn't he?

[Giggles]

Just realised this utter shit is pushing MotD back far enough to make tomorrow unbearable if I stay up for it.

[Yevrah]

How is Christian Bale up for best supporting actor for The Big Short.

I know it's an ensemble cast, but he's in it more than anyone else.

[Yevrah]

Winslet's faux breathless winning speeches really are the worst.

[Lee]

Is she still fit?

[Magic]

Immeasurably so.

[Yevrah]

Is she still fit?

You would.

Well I would, but then she can't be that much older than me.

[Boydy]

Fuck me, the Leader of the Opposition did actually go to Russell Brand's house during an election campaign, didn't he?

:lol:

I always forget about that.

[Yevrah]

It's up there with the obelisk.

[GS]

And we wonder why the electorate swerved Ed Miliband's Labour.

[Giggles]

Lulu would still get one.

[Lewis]

The BAFTAs would only make sense if it was exclusively British. When it does stuff like this it's like when tinpot universities give degrees to famous people to get their name in the paper.

[Manc]

Loving the Oscar snipes.

[Yevrah]

The BAFTAs would only make sense if it was exclusively British. When it does stuff like this it's like when tinpot universities give degrees to famous people to get their name in the paper.

Yep - the whole thing makes no sense in that it's supposedly open to everyone, but still insists on a mass British bias.

It's all a bit small time.

[Yevrah]

Probably no need to watch his speech at the Oscars now. :cool:

[Manc]

Not a patch on Matthew.

[QE Harold Flair]

Dela was bang on about Fry all those years ago, when he bemoaned his ubiquity and, in not so many words, basically called him an arsehole. Almost the whole board told him he was wrong, but he was not wrong.

He's still wrong.

[Toby]

Funnily enough in that thread, when he was still near universally popular, you remarked that he "hadn't made the most of his talent".

[QE Harold Flair]

Right, and?

[Toby]

That isn't far from what Delakingois - obviously a Blackadder fan - said himself. So unless you're calling yourself wrong I sense we might have witness some backtracking soon.

[QE Harold Flair]

What? How is that anywhere near saying he was on too many things and 'basically an arsehole'?

[Max Power]

Didn't see this thread going 8 pages but fair play.

Is The Revenant gonna clean up at the Oscars now? Wasn't a huge fan, the scenery was the star, but It's better than most of the major contenders I suppose.

[John]

Room should win best picture and Brie Larson should win best actress, but neither will happen.

[Toby]

What? How is that anywhere near saying he was on too many things and 'basically an arsehole'?

That was just my very glib take on it, try not to take it too literally. I linked his actual comment up thread.

[Max Power]

Room should win best picture and Brie Larson should win best actress, but neither will happen.

I did like Room actually and Brie Larson was superb. She's big favourite with the bookies as well.

[Lewis]

I didn't know QI was still going. That soon got boring, and now Sandi Toksvig is going to present it. Jesus.

[QE Harold Flair]

She's fucking horrendous. The most unfunny comedian ever. Hardly any women are actually funny, but she's just the worst of the lot.

[Lewis]

I thought she was just a 'broadcaster', but if she's meant to be a comedian then God help her (and us).

[igor_balis]

I once read Stephen Fry being described as a stupid person's idea of a smart person, which I thought was quite apt.

Absolutely right. I've actually softened on Fry a bit, he's alright, but it gets tedious when you hear so many fucking people talk about how smart he is based entirely on saying stuff fed to him on an earpiece/script/autocue in a posh voice on QI.

[QE Harold Flair]

You'e probably going to be fairly smart if you went to Cambridge.

[Mellberg]

I don't know, Boydy went to Oxford...

[Shindig]

Wow, Fry really went nuts on twitter last night. Its like a Pavel meltdown.

[John Arne]

Why does every thread become a Harold shitfight. It's fucking tedious.

[QE Harold Flair]

Why does every thread become a Harold shitfight. It's fucking tedious.

How did it? Fucking idiot.

[Reg]

Fry explains why he quit twitter. http://www.stephenfry.com/2016/02/15/peedinthepool/

Basically agrees with the threads on here about people latching onto things to feel offended about.

[Magic]

Well, Fry being outed as an 'outrageous misogynist' is something I didn't ever expect to see.

[QE Harold Flair]

Welcome to the left wing, Twitter mob.

[John Arne]

How did it? Fucking idiot.

Read half the threads on the first page, you tit.

[QE Harold Flair]

Read half the threads on the first page, you tit.

No, you posted it in this one. Stop whinging, this fucking instant.