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Spoonsky
11-02-2016, 06:04 AM
sounds the bugle of the board historians
Hitler vs Stalin vs Mao. Who was worst?
Pol Pot's up there isn't he? I've read a few things saying he's the worst for the amount of people killed under his regime.
Dunno though. Let's say Mark for his apathy. :cry:
Pol Pot was a tit, but he killed about a quarter of his population which can't put him anywhere near even Hitler, never mind Stalin in raw numbers.
Lewis
11-02-2016, 01:06 PM
You want something to show for all the deaths really. Stalin killed however many million people, but they came out of it a nuclear superpower and somebody less horrendous would probably not have enabled them to win the war, so on balance you would have to say that his rule was sort of beneficial (British Empire).
Hitler was going well until he wasn't, and Mao was just incompetent and crap. You get the impression that literally anybody capable of actually controlling the country (which was sort of an achievement in itself) could have done a less shit job. I suppose that lets him off to some extent in comparison with Hitler. Hitler started a war and deliberately genocided millions in a particularly starting manner, where as Mao just starved forty million and let idiots run wild because they didn't really know what they were doing. Plus it's China. They can afford to lose the people.
Tito was the best dictator. :cool:
Jimmy Floyd
11-02-2016, 01:12 PM
My vote goes to Mao.
Disco
11-02-2016, 01:17 PM
Mao also never washed his willy or brushed his teeth, so there's that.
SincereTheRebel
11-02-2016, 01:22 PM
That belgium leopold.
Chrissy
11-02-2016, 01:33 PM
I think the names mentioned so far are all clear "favourites" in the award for biggest cunt of all time. However, I think in terms of being an evil cunt Papa Doc Duvalier is worth a mention. Though not on the scale of Hitler, Mao, Stalin or Pol Pot, his bastardness was up there.
Chrissy
11-02-2016, 01:34 PM
That belgium leopold.
Aye, he stripped the Congo. His wikipedia page makes for grim reading.
Henry
11-02-2016, 02:38 PM
You can comparing relative or absolute numbers if you like. But I say Hitler, because he came to power in arguably the most advanced, industrialised and civilised country in the world. You can kind of excuse uneducated, backwards peasants for allowing a mad dictator in. Not so educated people.
Spammer
11-02-2016, 03:41 PM
God, probably.
- Wipes out entire world with a flood and starts again because he didn't like what people were up to.
- Wipes out entire villages because he doesn't like them.
- Destroys people's lives just to prove a point (Job).
- Fucking disappears for thousands of years at a time, then shows up and shows everyone how powerful he is, and then disappears again and lets us stew in our own shit. Proper passive/aggressive torture going on there.
- Can see into our minds from the moment we're born until the moment we die, and lets people get torture forever if they don't measure up to his standards. Try and find a dictator that is more invasive and severe that that.
SincereTheRebel
11-02-2016, 03:41 PM
But he loves, and he needs money.
Lewis
11-02-2016, 04:08 PM
God, probably.
- Wipes out entire world with a flood and starts again because he didn't like what people were up to.
- Wipes out entire villages because he doesn't like them.
- Destroys people's lives just to prove a point (Job).
- Fucking disappears for thousands of years at a time, then shows up and shows everyone how powerful he is, and then disappears again and lets us stew in our own shit. Proper passive/aggressive torture going on there.
- Can see into our minds from the moment we're born until the moment we die, and lets people get torture forever if they don't measure up to his standards. Try and find a dictator that is more invasive and severe that that.
He did create the universe to be fair. On balance...
I like Louis CK's bit on God.
Spoonsky
11-02-2016, 05:47 PM
I added a poll guys.
I'm inclined to say it was Hitler. There's an air of madness about Stalin and Mao, and while obviously Hitler had some mental problems on the whole he seems much more deliberate in what he did. Mao fucked up immensely but it's hard to say that anything he did was evil in quite the same way that Hitler was.
Shindig
11-02-2016, 06:15 PM
Hitler gets bonus points for being a product of incest.
Disco
11-02-2016, 06:34 PM
Relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1EX--vdxh4&feature=youtu.be
It's also the only palatable thing Nandos have ever produced.
I don't really have my own opinion on this, I just wanted to post that Peep Show clip where Sophie tries to make Mark buy the Chairman Mao t-shirt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh15fetq8MM
"It's not a competition Soph, but if it was, Mao would probably win"
mugbull
11-02-2016, 10:20 PM
I don't think Stalin was mad, per se. Lavrentiy Beria was probably more of a shitbag and controlled everything for a while.
Can't forget Hussein either. Or the Last King of Scotland. There's a big pool to choose from. :)
Lewis
11-02-2016, 11:30 PM
In hindsight, Saddam Hussein was such a missed opportunity. The worst of his shithousery was in the aftermath of the Gulf War, which only blew up because the Americans had led them on, and then he went mental and stopped giving a shit because sanctions were fucking the country up anyway (something all the 'Ooh, ISIS is his fault' people seem to forget).
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