Adam Johnson has been a naughty boy

[TG09]

Damn, once was going to be a England star, now this Sunderland footballer Adam Johnson has pleaded guilty to one count of sexual activity with a child and one charge of grooming.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-35541528

Who else has been a promising international player, only to ruin it all?

[SvN]

He's been sacked by Sunderland.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35546894

Wonder much time he'll do?

[Lewis]

It will be interesting to see what happens when somebody else tries to sign him. Is a bit of grooming worse than a rape? Probably not. But at the same time it's probably more likely to generate OUTRAGE.

[SvN]

Grooming might just be a couple of texts, though. Doesn't he claim that he thought she was of age?

[Lewis]

I don't know. You see grooming and you think long-game noncing. If he's just a wally then being a laughing stock is probably his biggest problem.

[Manc]

Any pictures of the girl?

Inb4magic

[Giggles]

I don't know. You see grooming and you think long-game noncing. If he's just a wally then being a laughing stock is probably his biggest problem.

If he's pleaded guilty then there's more to it than a mistaken couple of texts anyway.

[SvN]

I have no idea what the legal definition of grooming is. A quick google throws this up:


Child grooming is befriending and establishing an emotional connection with a child, and sometimes the family, to lower the child's inhibitions for child sexual abuse.

Seems pretty vague to me.

[Disco]

Even by that definition he could have groomed someone he believed was of age. Still pretty dodgy though the creepy fucker.

[Samadini]

Grooming might just be a couple of texts, though. Doesn't he claim that he thought she was of age?

I don't know about previous claims, but he's admitted he knew she was underage.

Means we'll only lose 1-0 in the derby now.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If he was going to plead guilty, why have Sunderland been allowing him to play for all this time?

Good to see SvN, defender of footballing sex miscreants everywhere, back in work though.

[Bam]

http://i4.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5261054.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Adam-Johnson.jpg

Fucking prime meat he has and the cunt goes grooming a kid! Throw away the keys.

[Disco]

Meat? You charmer.

[Weaver]

Don't usually laugh along with Twitter BANTZ, but I thought this one was alright:

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[Byron]

Bit crass there Bam.

[Bam]

Meat? You charmer.

I'm not trying to chat her up on here.

[ScousePig]

If he was going to plead guilty, why have Sunderland been allowing him to play for all this time?

Good to see SvN, defender of footballing sex miscreants everywhere, back in work though.

Presumably because we're shit, and he's quite good.

[SvN]

If he was going to plead guilty, why have Sunderland been allowing him to play for all this time?

Good to see SvN, defender of footballing sex miscreants everywhere, back in work though.

I'm not sure how asking questions about the case equals defending him. If he's admitted he knew, then he deserves to go down. I asked if that was the case.

[Lewis]

Rovers are still selecting Adam Walker despite being charged with grooming two fourteen year olds (having dropped him for ten minutes in July when he first got arrested), but it's rugby so nobody cares.

[The Merse]

Craig Thomson was the one that got me. Weren't the lasses he was wapping it out online to about 12/13?

He was in court again in January for breaching sex offender rules by going to Spain without telling the authorities. It put the kibosh on a move back to pro football with Livi after 2 years of junior league football.

Player of genuine quality when he went away too - he looked like he'd make the move to the Premiership.

[Magic]

My Paint drawing was a key piece of evidence.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Rovers are still selecting Adam Walker despite being charged with grooming two fourteen year olds (having dropped him for ten minutes in July when he first got arrested), but it's rugby so nobody cares.

*league. If it was union and he played for someone like Harlequins there would be a six page spread about it in the Telegraph every day.

[Lewis]

Manu Tuilagi and those female coppers got relatively little coverage, and what press it did get was more about him missing the World Cup than being a cunt.

[Shindig]

So he found this bairn in a pub and thought, "Well, the wife and kid's at home. I'll send you a few texts that imply we're in a relationship. Nowt'll come of that..."

Stupid, stupid sod.

[Magic]

Has his defence lawyer put together a case for her manipulating, and in turn, raping him? No? Didn't think so. Another victory for the feminazis.

[Shindig]

"My client is an alcoholic."

Done.

[Raoul Duke]

"My client has a history of making terrible life choices, your honour. For example, in August 2012 he signed for Sunderland".

[TG09]

"My client has a history of making terrible life choices, your honour. For example, in August 2012 he signed for Sunderland".

haha that made me laugh.

I saw the sacking coming.

Once you admit you have done something like that, any company will be sacking you.

[TG09]

*league. If it was union and he played for someone like Harlequins there would be a six page spread about it in the Telegraph every day.

True that

[John]

Craig Thomson was the one that got me. Weren't the lasses he was wapping it out online to about 12/13?

He was in court again in January for breaching sex offender rules by going to Spain without telling the authorities. It put the kibosh on a move back to pro football with Livi after 2 years of junior league football.

Player of genuine quality when he went away too - he looked like he'd make the move to the Premiership.

I think one was eleven and the other was fourteen.

The thing that really fucked me up about his case was that the younger of the girls was a family friend who he'd known since she was a toddler. He should have been imprisoned. Did they extend his stay on the sex offender's register when he fucked up the second time?

[Smiffy]

From what I've been reading Sunderland had expected him to be pleading not guilty?

[Andy]

Filthy nonce. Hope he gets his legs broken in prison so he can never play football again. P

[Smiffy]

Filthy nonce. Hope he gets his legs broken in prison so he can never play football again. P

Therein lies a problem. It's been touched on on this forum before but there seems to be no official help for such people. Instead we wait for them to get caught, villify them and then dispose so we don't have to deal with it.

Productive!

[Giggles]

Therein lies a problem. It's been touched on on this forum before but there seems to be no official help for such people. Instead we wait for them to get caught, villify them and then dispose so we don't have to deal with it.

Productive!

And well deserved is that course of action too.

[SvN]

He's hardly a pedo that wants to fuck children and couldn't contain it anymore. He's just an idiot that fucked a girl who was one year underage. Totally different kettle of fish to the genuine pedos that do need help.

[SvN]

The jury was read a series of messages between the pair in which he arranged to meet her so he could sign a football shirt.
In them, the girl made it clear she was a Year 10 student and one month past her 15th birthday, saying everyone thought she looked older.

What a fucking idiot. Footballers really are thick.

[Smiffy]

An idiot is someone of low intelligence. Johnson appears much seedier in his exchages. Ched Evans shagged a drunk in what was a spur of the moment decision, this guy drives to actually meet an underage lass. Very iffy.

Johnson asked the girl: “Are you in the last year of school?"

She replied: “Year 10. Will you still send me a signed shirt?”


Johnson then arranged to meet the girl to give her a signed Sunderland shirt, jurors heard, and asked as the conversation went on: “Where do you go out?”


She replied: “I’m not old enough to go out.”


He said: “Yeah but you look old enough. When you 16?”


She answered: “Everyone says that. November.”"

Within hours of the alleged sexual encounter, Johnson is said to have sent a message to the girl saying: “Wasn’t bad was it? Lol”. She replied: “No haha”. He continued: “Haha think we need to go in the back next time lol”. She said: “Haha yeah”.
The court heard that Johnson said he felt the meeting had been “worth it”, adding: “It was class. Just wanted to get ya jeans off lol ... Next time defo. I will last 10 seconds though lol.”

Wrong.

[Andy]

He's hardly a pedo that wants to fuck children and couldn't contain it anymore. He's just an idiot that fucked a girl who was one year underage. Totally different kettle of fish to the genuine pedos that do need help.

It's the grooming part which is horrid, if he met a 15 year old in a club and slept with her thinking she was of age it's not too bad, just a stupid mistake. Grooming though, he's a wrong'un.

[Magic]

That message conversation reads like it's right out of Smiffy's phone.

"...av u sin jurasick parc lol"

[Smiffy]

I think you'd be hard pressed to find any text speak on my mobile phone beyond "tbh".

[simon]

He's had a shocker really and he should probably get the book thrown at him.

[Davgooner]

Aye. When the initial story came out you wondered whether he'd just been a bit of a div, but by the look of it that chant of his is well justified.

[Smiffy]

It must be a City thing.

EDIT:

:D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbBXyeOW0AAJs_u.jpg

[Sam]

Well that's his career over, fucking pleb, should get the book thrown at him now.

[Smiffy]

Shit the bed it's worse than you'd think.

https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday

[John Arne]

Is this what constitutes journalism now? Live tweeting from a courtroom :D / :(

[SvN]

AJ's girlfriend sent him pic of their baby. AJ: "She looks class" – 30 seconds after he text girl to say "I will last 10 seconds tho lol"

Fucking hell :D

[Magic]

Is he on about fucking his own baby there? Ian Watkins v2.

[phonics]

Is this what constitutes journalism now? Live tweeting from a courtroom :D / :(

What's wrong with live tweeting from a courtroom you mong?

[Magic]

Just seen the Mail's headline:

'Just wanted to get your jeans off, LOL': England star Adam Johnson 'sent messages to girl, 15, who performed a sex act on him in car park before he Googled "legal age of consent"' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3443795/Adam-Johnson-arrives-court-child-sex-trial.html)
:D

[John Arne]

What's wrong with live tweeting from a courtroom you mong?

It just seems a little bit lowbrow for a pro journalist, is all. You clown.

[Smiffy]

It's probably the quickest way to 'get there first'. Hell, it is the quickest way.

[John Arne]

No doubt.

[phonics]

It just seems a little bit lowbrow for a pro journalist, is all. You clown.

How so? He live tweets the court case and then writes up the piece afterwards. It's literally just taking notes and sharing them with others...

What should he be doing to be a REAL JOURNALIST? Writing it with a quill and then attaching it to a carrier pidgeon? Sending it in morse corse through the wire? Only allowing it to be read having been printed through a Guttenburg Press?

[John Arne]

At least you aren't taking my comments to heart. Calm the fuck down, you miserable prick.

[phonics]

I'm perfectly happy, you're the one denigrating someone elses work and calling it 'low brow' because you don't like a format that has been the industry standard for 5+ years. Even Yev and Jimmy use Twitter occasionally. You have to move on with your hate brah.

[John Arne]

I use Twitter, you dingbat.
I just don't see the journalistic integrity involved in tweeting soundbites from a courtroom. There is absolutely no skill required to do that - I could do it. It's titillation without context, brah.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Are you serious? He's in the courtroom. Nobody else is. People want to know what's going on in the courtroom, ideally as it happens, not in six hours' time.

[Smiffy]

I use Twitter, you dingbat.
I just don't see the journalistic integrity involved in tweeting soundbites from a courtroom. There is absolutely no skill required to do that - I could do it. It's titillation without context, brah.

I don't see many journalists with integrity.

You're wrong here, JA.

[John Arne]

Are you serious? He's in the courtroom. Nobody else is. People want to know what's going on in the courtroom, ideally as it happens, not in six hours' time.

I don't want to know. Who the fuck is genuinely interested in knowing what's happening immediately.

[John Arne]

I don't see many journalists with integrity.

You're wrong here, JA.

Probably :)
Then again, both Phonics and Jimmy disagree with me - so, morally, I'm right.

[Mellberg]

I heard the met her in the club story and felt a bit sorry for him. Turns out he's a rampant pervert. Enjoy prison.

[Weaver]

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Not worth its own thread, but a bit of a strange one.

[QE Harold Flair]

Bit lucky to escape fail for attacking police, I'd say.

[Shindig]

Just reading up on it. I retract my original statement and replace it with a much harsher one. He'll get murdered in prison and I can't see him avoiding it.

[QE Harold Flair]

Just reading up on it. I retract my original statement and replace it with a much harsher one. He'll get murdered in prison and I can't see him avoiding it.

Not likely. They keep the nonces away from the general population. He hasn't been sent to prison yet, anyway. Though he surely will be.

[Baz]

Adam Johnson's fifteen year old must have been a mighty fine cherno, for him to risk not only his relationship with his wife and child, but also risk one of the best paid professions in the history of the world. What an absolute ballbag. :roflol:

Some of the texts Smiffy's posted are a great tie-in to the case. Really highlights what a terrible person he is.

[Mellberg]

Just reading up on it. I retract my original statement and replace it with a much harsher one. He'll get murdered in prison and I can't see him avoiding it.

No chance. He'll just end up exchanging pervy stories with other paedos on the nonce wing.

[The Merse]

I think one was eleven and the other was fourteen.

The thing that really fucked me up about his case was that the younger of the girls was a family friend who he'd known since she was a toddler. He should have been imprisoned.

Aye, it was a piss take really. Hearts not sacking him and instead sending him to Lithuania for a year too.


Did they extend his stay on the sex offender's register when he fucked up the second time?

I don't think they did, as the second grooming charge ended up being dropped on lack of evidence, but this is fucking brilliant - of all the things to subsequently get in trouble for:

DISGRACED former Hearts player Craig Thomson is facing a police probe over claims he works as an unlicensed window cleaner.

Thomson, who was convicted of targeting under-age girls in sordid webchats in 2011, was reported after Midlothian Council officials spotted him working in Bonnyrigg.

Thomson, 22, is thought to be in breach of regulations covering the trade. It is understood that the local authority has no record of him on their books as a window cleaner.



Read more: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/ex-hearts-star-craig-thomson-facing-police-probe-1-3225889#ixzz3zzP95TxO

[John]

Not quite Kevin Kyle cleaning accommodation boats off Shetland, but that's quality.

[Manc]

Geezers text game is on point.

[Foe]

Devils advocate questions to Tth: is 16 the right age for consent?
If the legal consent age was 15 would this behaviour have been acceptable to you?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

He's obviously an idiot for 'breaking the law' of sexual consent. But is there outrage purely because it's a 15 year old? Had he gone to pork this girl in France or Portugal would he be classed in the same way?

Grooming is such an odd one of someone in the 14-17 range given that different countries have wildly differing views on acceptability. Be interested to understand whether the seethe is becuase the law in this country states 16 or whether you genuinely believe there's a cut off at which point consent is able to be given.

LOL at turkeys age of consent being 18 though.

[Shindig]

16's fine. People will still fuck. Teens will still get pregnant. I'd argue bumping it up to 18 would result in more teen pregnancies as a result of drunken fuckery. At 16, you're about as seuxally mature as you're going to get and there's at least a bigger likelihood you're popping your cherry stone-cold sober. Japan's 14 is way too young. You are not done yet.

[Magic]

Baz it's because he likes younger girls and pretty much has all the traits of a grooming predator.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Devils advocate questions to Tth: is 16 the right age for consent?
If the legal consent age was 15 would this behaviour have been acceptable to you?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe

He's obviously an idiot for 'breaking the law' of sexual consent. But is there outrage purely because it's a 15 year old? Had he gone to pork this girl in France or Portugal would he be classed in the same way?

Grooming is such an odd one of someone in the 14-17 range given that different countries have wildly differing views on acceptability. Be interested to understand whether the seethe is becuase the law in this country states 16 or whether you genuinely believe there's a cut off at which point consent is able to be given.

LOL at turkeys age of consent being 18 though.

I think people would still be OUTRAGED if he had done the same to a 16 year old, however they just wouldn't know about it as he wouldn't have broken the law. There has to be a line somewhere.

[QE Harold Flair]

It's pretty normal to find older looking girls of that age attractive but what the fuck would you have to talk about with a girl still at school? It would be so awkard. Besides that, look at what kind of money grabbing women he can get.

[Manc]

Someone keep an eye on Foe.

[simon]

It's pretty normal to find older looking girls of that age attractive but what the fuck would you have to talk about with a girl still at school? It would be so awkard. Besides that, look at what kind of money grabbing women he can get.

He doesn't strike me as the type for in-depth and meaningful conversation.

'That's class.'

[Jimmy Floyd]

They could debate religion or feminism.

[Foe]

Someone keep an eye on Foe.

Adam Johnson hadn't mastered spotting the senior tie clearly.

[QE Harold Flair]

They could debate religion or feminism.

Exactly. Then he could come here and get a free one every night.

[Boydy]

You could now legally shag someone who was born after the millennium. :sick:

[Giggles]

More from today. Basically he got a 4 second beej and felt her up.


http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/court-hears-more-shocking-details-of-adam-johnsons-alleged-encounter-with-15-year-old/64840

[Weaver]

Tomorrow is Day 10 of the trial, and today Adam Johnson mentioned that 'he'd met with Sunderland's chief executive (Margaret Byrne, I think) in May' and he had admitted then that he had kissed the girl.

Isn't that illegal for her/Sunderland to withhold that information, knowing it was an offence?

Johnson was being asked whether he'd claimed he wasn't guilty so he could carry on with being paid £60k a week for longer.

[John Arne]

She had access to police reports where he had admitted it, apparently. She didn't know anything the police didn't know.

I don't see the problem with Sunderlans keeping him on board until he formally pleads guilty, or is found guilty.

[TG09]

She had access to police reports where he had admitted it, apparently. She didn't know anything the police didn't know.

I don't see the problem with Sunderlans keeping him on board until he formally pleads guilty, or is found guilty.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that, or unless he says he is guilty.

[Dquincy]

The alleged photo on the internet of his wife is nice.

[Shindig]

They've split up. And she lives locally.

[igor_balis]

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I wasn't expecting such a long custodial sentence tbh.

[SvN]

Neither was I. I thought he'd get about 18 months max.

[7om]

It's just struck me he looks like Magic. Northerner, surname Johnson, into kids.

[Magic]

Absolute lol. I'd have been referring them to that case where the 13 year old or whatever it was, according to the judge anyway, 'manipulated' the older man.

[QE Harold Flair]

He would have got a third off for a guilty plea and the fact he actually went to meet her plays against him.

[Shindig]

:D

At least when he comes out, she'll be legal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He's not getting out if they put him in the general population.

[Shindig]

"Hi, my name's Adam and I just moved into the area. I'm legally required to tell you how much I love your kids."

[TG09]

"Johnson told the jury that when she sent him a friend request on Facebook he recognised her as a Sunderland fan.
After he accepted the request he began a communication which involved 834 WhatsApp messages in little more than a month before the exchanges moved on to SnapChat and were not recorded."

Wow, why would you accept a friends request from and fan that young, just plain stupid.

[Charlie]

Maybe she was fit.

[TG09]

Maybe she was fit.

If she was, being that young. Plus his missus is fit as well.

Fool.

[ScousePig]

This is sounding a bit dodgy on our end. We released a statement yesterday saying we had no idea he was going to plead guilty, but it doesn't say that we didn't know what he had done, or admitted to doing and the QC and lead investigator are suggesting the club knew that he had kissed a girl (and liked it) and about all the messages.

We're a fucking shambles at the top.

[Waffdon]

She grassed him up
He's going down
She grassed him upppppp
He's going downnnn
City won the league with a peado on the wing

[John Arne]

The PFA have come out and suggested that they need to do more on helping players understand what they can and can't do... bizarre. In what other world of employment are your employers telling you how to act outside of work. You don't need your employer, or union telling you that you shouldn't be sexually assaulting people.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10190549/pfa-says-adam-johnson-case-shows-much-work-to-do


"As a natural extension of this, the PFA has developed over a period of time a training programme incorporating the theme of personal integrity for all professional players; ensuring they are fully informed on such issues and includes sexual consent, standards of behaviour and respectful relationships in person and on social media.

"This has been developed with input from groups including Rape Crisis, White Ribbon and Women's Aid.

"Situations such as this, unfortunately, demonstrate that this is a vital area for our focus and that there is still much work to do."

[Raoul Duke]

Most people don't. But fairly uneducated, rich kids who are likely to find themselves in potentially compromising situations could probably do with some training.

I don't particularly need training on 'cultural sensitivity' or 'manual handling', but I've been at workplaces where I've been required to have it.

[Toby]

The PFA have come out and suggested that they need to do more on helping players understand what they can and can't do... bizarre. In what other world of employment are your employers telling you how to act outside of work. You don't need your employer, or union telling you that you shouldn't be sexually assaulting people.

I imagine a lot of young celebrities get this sort of stuff from (responsible) agents. Having most of their post-pubescent years dominated by football does seem to end up with a lot of them appearing fairly clueless on some of the things teenagers learn properly in that time. Obviously this is the extreme end and I doubt there are many unaware sex with fifteen year olds is wrong, but sexual consent in general certainly seems like something that could do with addressing.

[hfswjyr]

It may be to protect the clubs and employers as well. "Well, we told you it was bad and you did it anyway."

Essentially dissolving the employer or responsibility.

[Yevrah]

http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a785692/former-sunderland-footballer-adam-johnson-cant-be-deleted-from-fifa/

What a headline. :D

[ScousePig]

It seems as though this is being taken as the true nature of events at the moment:


2nd March 15
- Johnson arrested
- Police visit club, discuss nature of allegations, that he'd messaged and had sexual contact with the girl and safeguarding issues for the club. Police had not yet interviewed Johnson. This was confirmed by the leading office both in court and in the BBC interview
- SAFC suspend Johnson

18th March 15
- Johnson suspension lifted following meetings with him, legal team, PFA.

23rd April 15
- Johnson charged with 4 offences.
- SAFC did not take any action re: suspension. We had two games between this date and the meeting on 4th May, Johnson was not in the squad in the game following being charged and made a late sub appeared in the second game

4th May 15
- Meeting between club, Johnson and legal team/QC. Not the police.
- In court, AJ/QC say that Johnson admitted kissing girl in this meeting (this is not the same as admitting guilt to any of the charges against him) and provided police interview and What's App messages to MB (this is not the same as saying she read them)
- Club statement says MB attended part of this meeting. Club received documents which were "Immediately" handed to QC (not clear this was during meeting or at a different time) and club were not in position to determine guilt. They don't address issues of AJ admitting to kissing or refer to whether they reviewed any of the messages they are meant to have been provided with.

Throughout this whole time Johnson maintained that he was pleading not guilty.

If so, why the fuck we let him carry on playing after 4th May is questionable. It's possible that we were given bad advice and that we didn't read the message transcripts, but fuck me. Heads will roll.

MB is Margaret Byrne, our chief executive.

[ScousePig]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/06/sunderland-chief-margaret-byrne-adam-johnson

[TG09]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/06/sunderland-chief-margaret-byrne-adam-johnson

Oh dear, if that is guilty if I have ever seen it. Leaving the country is not a good sign.

[Foe]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/mar/06/sunderland-chief-margaret-byrne-adam-johnson

Innocent until proven guilty. Or is that concept lost or assumed to not apply to footballers?

[GS]

I would agree. He's ultimately going through a court case and one has to assume he's innocent until proven (or he admits he's) guilty.

I suppose you could suspend him without pay for the duration, but you could hardly go and sack him before the prosecution has been allowed to run its course.

[Yevrah]

Suspending him on full pay (i.e. not playing him) would seem to be the most sensible thing to have done.

[TG09]

Suspending him on full pay (i.e. not playing him) would seem to be the most sensible thing to have done.

True, that would be.

[ScousePig]

Innocent until proven guilty. Or is that concept lost or assumed to not apply to footballers?

Admitting to kissing a 15 year old girl and having access to all the WhatsApp messages is quite damning. We may have thought he was going to plead not guilty, but we knew what (or at least some) of what he'd done.

[John Arne]

Kissing a 15yr old girl, whilst quite bad, is not illegal.

My issue would be if they read the messages, and knew that he had sent quite inappropriate messages. Even then, however, I think they did the right thing by waiting for the court verdict -

[leedsrevolution]

I thought kissing a 15 year old was illegal?

[John Arne]

I thought kissing a 15 year old was illegal?

I think it's defined as something like 'sexual contact, including touching, but not kissing'.

[leedsrevolution]

Fair enough.

[Baz]

Didn't she suck him off?

[SvN]

He was found not guilty of that offence.

[Magic]

I think before all the Yewtree/Rovram shit kicked off, people would have lol'd and dismissed this, I bet the girl would have been lol'd at too by the filth.

Good to see our perceptions of child abuse are changing, even if there are some utter troglodytes like Harold still around.

[ScousePig]

Byrne has resigned.

http://www.safc.com/news/club-news/2016/march/club-statement-ceo?utm_source=home_newsfeed&utm_medium=latest_news_article_1_news_title&utm_campaign=newsclub_news2016marchclub_statement_ ceo

[Dquincy]

This is inappropriate.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482114/Adam-Johnson-s-sister-backs-Justice-Johnson-campaign.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/08/17/article-3482114-31FF290A00000578-637_308x469.jpg

[Magic]

A temporary Facebook profile overlay picture of Adam Johnson. :cool:

[Magic]

http://gms.cachefly.net/images/16/03/08/844ee2685a06b8cf90f16ebe6ee8246a/690.jpg
http://gms.cachefly.net/images/16/03/08/b31660b7e55b620bcfa8757233a8843c/690.jpg
http://gms.cachefly.net/images/16/03/08/5193d2e921d0bb83531872be8621cdc9/690.jpg

Lol!!!

[Dquincy]

Oh dear, that's tragic in many ways. What a fucking idiot.

[Magic]

Sorry, I thought they were your WhatsApps mate.

[Giggles]

The 'keep deleting' post in that looks out of place. Wrong colour.

[John]

'I will get this thank you, it had better be worth it.' :sick:

Life for that, thanks.

[Giggles]

Overuse of the word 'mate' tonight. Magic is in massive cunt mode :drool:

[Dquincy]

Sorry, I thought they were your WhatsApps mate.

You love the word 'mate', don't you mate.

Edit: What Giggles said....

[Giggles]

You love the word 'mate', don't you mate.

Edit: What Giggles said....

This happens every once in a while when he's had a shit day. It's hugely entertaining.

[Magic]

This happens every once in a while when he's had a shit day. It's hugely entertaining.

At least it's noticeable when I have a shit day, rather than wallowing in an absolute pit of fucking filthy misery wishing the road conditions changed suddenly so the decision of killing yourself is taken out of your grimy hands.

[Baz]

Where have those screenshots come from?

[Giggles]

At least it's noticeable when I have a shit day, rather than wallowing in an absolute pit of fucking filthy misery wishing the road conditions changed suddenly so the decision of killing yourself is taken out of your grimy hands.

I'd miss your implosion then though mate. Worth striving on for mate.

[ScousePig]

They were part of the transcripts we were given last May.

Innocent until proven guilty indeed.

[Shindig]

That conversation stuff's all come out in court so it's probably a mock-up.

WOT PIG SED.

[Magic]

To be fair the girl sounds like a right little minx.

[SvN]

About to be sentenced, but can you believe that the BBC are live-reporting this? What the fuck?

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-england-tyne-35886058

[Magic]

It's incredible the vitriol directed towards him, given a lot of PAEDOPHILES (such as Bowie and Iggy Pop) are utterly revered.

[Magic]

Fucking hell judges don't half like the sound of their own voice. Less wail more jail.

[Weaver]

The one who did Oscar Pistorious was a nutter in that regard - I don't think I heard any else for the first three or four days in that trial.

EDIT: Johnson's been given six years.

[John]

I wonder what the judge was on about with his crime being 'the most serious of its type'. That simply isn't true, unless the 'type' is as narrow as sex crimes committed by footballers against willing participants of fifteen years old.

I know of someone recently jailed here for using a position of power to abuse girls as young as twelve and get away with it for years. He got eighteen months in prison and three years on a tag, so I'm genuinely interested in what happens here.

Six years. Fucking hell.

[Baz]

:joy:

[Byron]

6 years.

[Magic]

Jesus.

[SvN]

He's been made an example of. No way is a random Joe getting 6 years for that.

[Byron]

Yeah, the judge probably thought 3 years and doubled it because he's a public personality.

Not that I'm trying to defend him, he's obviously a massive cunt.

[John]

Even three years would have been a heavy sentence given what other people get for similar crimes.

The guy I mentioned above was found guilty of sexually assaulting five girls of between twelve and fourteen, having been in a position of power over them. So that's apparently four times less serious than diddling a willing fifteen year old.

I didn't think I'd feel sorry for Adam Johnson, but fucking hell.

[Magic]

As I said, the wife's friend's fiance was a teacher, who had a long relationship with a 16 year old pupil (even noncing her up in their pre-marital bed, with children sleeping next door whilst she was out on nightshift). He was clever though because he waited until she was 16.

The court told him to accept it was a one off and he only got 100 hours community service.

[-james-]

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 12m12 minutes ago
It can now be reported that former Sunderland winger #AdamJohnson was also arrested for possession of extreme pornography involving animals

[SvN]

:D

Magic better watch his back. I bet he's all over Mr Hands.

[Magic]

You'd have to be a real mook to actually save stuff like that when it's so freely available to stream. :drool:

[ScousePig]

Even three years would have been a heavy sentence given what other people get for similar crimes.

The guy I mentioned above was found guilty of sexually assaulting five girls of between twelve and fourteen, having been in a position of power over them. So that's apparently four times less serious than diddling a willing fifteen year old.

I didn't think I'd feel sorry for Adam Johnson, but fucking hell.

We knew weeks ago it was going to be a minimum of four, so six isn't that surprising. It is strange when you compare it to other incidents of a similar or worse magnitude.

[ScousePig]

https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday

The live-tweeter, if anyone is interested.

[SvN]

It can also now be reported that Adam Johnson browsed a website called “Nice Young Teens”, which featured explicit images but not unlawful

Why the fuck is that relevant?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why the fuck is that relevant?

It isn't but it will get them all riled up on mumsnet.

[Lewis]

This reminds me of Hull's superhero attempt (http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Elephant-porn-man-spammed-giving-police/story-19806693-detail/story.html).

[John]

It'll have been used to show he had a predilection for younger girls. It shouldn't be, obviously, but that's why it's there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Elephants? Christ :D

[Lewis]

In reference to what John was saying: you wot? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11911629/Babysitter-spared-jail-after-having-sex-with-boy-aged-11.html)

[Baz]

:D

Magic better watch his back. I bet he's all over Mr Hands.Hasn't everyone seen that at some point? :uhoh:

I remember a few years back when some guy used to ask me to get him porn and we'd watch it on my dinner at work on the TV in the kitchen :eyemouth: he asked for a list of what was available. I was on fux0r on my phone and reading off the popular torrents of the week; erm, milfs, teen, whatever gonzo is, pov oh point of view, scat, is that like poo and wee? more milfs, dog, chinese, black people.. hold on, dog porn?! and there was a little blurry thumbnail of a latino looking woman squatting over a dog that was lay on it's back. Thankfully he never requested that. :D

[John]

This reminds me of Hull's superhero attempt (http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Elephant-porn-man-spammed-giving-police/story-19806693-detail/story.html).

The things barristers and judges will describe as 'very serious' always amuse me. How is a drunk bloke watching a woman getting fucked off a horse anything other than pathetic and hilarious?

Our justice system is close to being as fucked up as America's. Some nugget was arrested yesterday for tweeting that he'd asked a Muslim he met on the street to explain Brussels. What the fuck are we doing?

[Bartholomert]

The things barristers and judges will describe as 'very serious' always amuse me. How is a drunk bloke watching a woman getting fucked off a horse anything other than pathetic and hilarious?

Our justice system is close to being as fucked up as America's. Some nugget was arrested yesterday for tweeting that he'd asked a Muslim he met on the street to explain Brussels. What the fuck are we doing?

We have protection of basic human freedoms like speech. You don't.

USA > UK

[niko_cee]

Bill or rights baby, has a right to bear arms and everything. Don't think you'd qualify though.

[Magic]

Perfect timing:

Police Scotland acknowledges the 32 month sentence received by 50 year old Derek Stewart at Forfar Sheriff Court today (Thursday 24 March), following his conviction for serious sexual offences.
Mr Stewart was found guilty of sexual offences involving Child Sexual Exploitation including online grooming which led to unlawful sexual activity.
Detective Inspector Scott Fotheringham said :
"This was a protracted police investigation carried out by the Public Protection Unit in Tayside Division.
"Police Scotland is committed to the protection of vulnerable young people who regularly communicate with unknown persons online. Today's sentencing sends a clear message to those persons who seek to target children and young people in this manner for the purposes sexual activity.
"Officers work alongside partner agencies and are committed to ensuring that all incidents of sexual exploitation involving children or young persons are professionally and thoroughly investigated. We are acutely aware of the potential impact on the victims of these types of crimes and will ensure by the use of specially trained officers that they receive a tailored, sensitive approach providing support on every occasion.
"Those individuals who pose the greatest risk of harm will be actively targeted and those who seek to sexually exploit children or young persons can expect a robust response. Anyone who has concerns about a child or young person that they believe may be at risk of sexual exploitation is asked to contact Police Scotland on the non-emergency telephone number 101.
"Alternatively concerns may be reported to local Social Work Departments or via Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111."

If only big Adam had done this up here he'd have walked.

[John]

Bill of Rights only guarantees freedom of speech in parliament, doesn't it?

America's protection of free speech is purely notional anyway, since their barely trained police forces whizz around picking people up for swearing anyway.

I'll take a night in the cells for calling Islam shit over being tasered in the bollocks until death for telling a policeman to fuck off.

[Yevrah]

You know things are pretty bad when even Gordon Taylor won't back you.

[Bartholomert]

Bill of Rights only guarantees freedom of speech in parliament, doesn't it?

America's protection of free speech is purely notional anyway, since their barely trained police forces whizz around picking people up for swearing anyway.

I'll take a night in the cells for calling Islam shit over being tasered in the bollocks until death for telling a policeman to fuck off.

Not sure if srs. You are okay with people being imprisoned for political speech? Wut?

Also anti-profanity laws are unconstitutional in the US:

https://www.aclu.org/news/states-anti-profanity-law-unconstitutional-rules-superior-court-judge

[Spoonsky]

In reference to what John was saying: you wot? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11911629/Babysitter-spared-jail-after-having-sex-with-boy-aged-11.html)

That's fucked up. What's his dad playing at?

[Magic]

Did the older one not have learning difficulties? Presumably the young one did too, given he considered that ugly fat shite as a 'notch on his belt'.

[John]

Not sure if srs. You are okay with people being imprisoned for political speech? Wut?

Also anti-profanity laws are unconstitutional in the US:

https://www.aclu.org/news/states-anti-profanity-law-unconstitutional-rules-superior-court-judge

Right, but that's a purely notional protection for the vast majority of people.


That's fucked up. What's his dad playing at?

That was my main concern. If her mental age is low enough that it's deemed fine for her to fuck an eleven year old, surely it's low enough that it's definitely not fine for an adult to be fucking her.

[Shindig]

If mert ever makes it into a courtroom, they'll chuck him out for his constant use of memes in response to people.

[Bartholomert]

Right, but that's a purely notional protection for the vast majority of people.


Let me know when you want to start making sense.