Old, archaic things you miss about football (sponsored by the School of Science)

[Jimmy Floyd]

*Warning - this is a nostalgia thread*

I'm not thinking about players or teams here so much as just things, and better still little things, that you just don't get anymore in these heady days of glamour. Perhaps for you it's goal nets that hang down imperfectly, or shit pitches, or the legal backpass, depending on your age.

My first nomination is Gerald Sinstadt and his single camera MOTD reports:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrHmjtEfURY

[Henry]

Yeah, that brings me back. Funny how you forget the little things. :(

[Spammer]

This is more just my following of it rather than anything, but I kinda miss knowing pretty much all the players in the Premiership and most in the second tier too. Just don't have time to follow it as closely as I did in school. Which is a good thing really as I'd be worried if I did at my age, but I was looking at the Arsenal first 11 over Christmas and didn't recognise 2-3 of the players, which I found a bit embarrassing.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Another one, properly suicidal high lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oao_g7m3AE&t=01m10s

[QE Harold Flair]

The legal backpass is certainly not to be missed. I can assure you.

Foreign players being an oddity would be one.

[Giggles]

The legal backpass is certainly not to be missed. I can assure you.

Foreign players being an oddity would be one.

Did you have to put that in such a way that someone was arguing with you, you defensive madman?

[QE Harold Flair]

I didn't. Don't cry.

[CJay]

I love that Mark Hughes goal in that clip. Zola's touch, control and cross. :drool: Sinstatd was amazing, as are / were most old commentators and reporters.

I'll think of something for the thread soon, but on nets - my brother is a little odd for that sort of thing. He can tell you what pattern teams have for their nets, what colour they are, whether they've changed from season to season, etc. Certainly a niche genre to be an expert in.

[Pepe]

Big man little man up front?

[Ian]

Big man little man up front?

In a 442 with wingers who only ever, EVER kick the ball with their stronger, outside foot.

[Raoul Duke]

One that comes to mind is people going around goalkeepers. You used to see it all the time (Fat Ronaldo was a master at it) but you rarely see it now aside from some last minute counter attack.

[John Arne]

Cliché, I know....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNZcS_pJ_g

[Disco]

The really shallow nets hey used to have at The Dell and proper GOTM music.

[Giggles]

Cliché, I know....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNZcS_pJ_g

Still wins the thread though :drool:

[Magic]

One that comes to mind is people going around goalkeepers. You used to see it all the time (Fat Ronaldo was a master at it) but you rarely see it now aside from some last minute counter attack.

Thanks to anti-football and FITNESS there's little actual skill to be had.

[John]

The really shallow nets hey used to have at The Dell and proper GOTM music.

Proper GOTM in general, full of nothing but howitzers and overhead kicks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NlHVNsPHKE

The Vialli goal on that is one of my favourite ever goals. I love a snap finish.

[Magic]

Look at the amount of time and space players have on the ball. :drool:

[Disco]

I used to watch Football Italia religiously, the year Roma won was brilliant. Some ridiculous nostalgia names in there.


Aldair
Cafu
Candela
Zebina
Samuel
Zanetti
Nakata
Tommasi
Delvecchio
Assuncao
Balbo
Montella
Totti
Batistuta

[Magic]

Delvy used to remind me of Fraser's partner Agent Vecchio in Due South.

[Disco]

Racist.

Old Ray > New Ray incidentally.

[John Arne]

Hidetoshi :drool:

http://www.mrporter.com/mrporter/content/journal/010512/theLook/mainImage6.jpg

[wullie]

Being surprised by foreign players you'd never heard of before at international or continental tournaments. Now everybody's already heard of any player who looks promising at 16 and have written him off before 20.

[John Arne]

The Anglo-Italian Cup was a bit special, too.

Port Vale v Genoa

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/images/g/2HIAAOSwhcJWNhor/s-l225.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98y-CceWtdU

Montella :)

[John Arne]

Being surprised by foreign players you'd never heard of before at international or continental tournaments. Now everybody's already heard of any player who looks promising at 16 and have written him off before 20.

That's a good shout. I miss signing someone like Sami Hyypia and not knowing a thing about him.

[John]

I follow a Facebook page about football in the nineties which is obviously edited by two people with very different areas of interest. The posts alternate between pictures of mid-nineties Serie A players and Paul Dickov scoring equalisers. Their latest post is the following Fiorentina picture, and one not long before that was the MOTD commentator saying Peter Ndlovu a bit funny, it's great.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2r6ekhu.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

Reading about transfers in the newspaper, or on Ceefax, is another one. I used to open the paper and Chelsea would have signed Gianluca Vialli, past tense, all done. There never seemed to be any prolonged speculation, so it was always an exciting surprise. I remember Anelka's move to Real Madrid being labelled a 'transfer saga' and that seemed to spark off all the bollocks.

[John Arne]

Reading about transfers in the newspaper, or on Ceefax, is another one. I used to open the paper and Chelsea would have signed Gianluca Vialli, past tense, all done. There never seemed to be any prolonged speculation, so it was always an exciting surprise. I remember Anelka's move to Real Madrid being labelled a 'transfer saga' and that seemed to spark off all the bollocks.

Waiting for the latest scores to go to the next page, too.

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/ceefax-football-results.jpg

[Boydy]

That's a good shout. I miss signing someone like Sami Hyypia and not knowing a thing about him.
But on the other hand El Hadji Diouf and Salif Diao.

[QE Harold Flair]

Peter Ndlovu was the best player on CM 93. Ah, the memories.

[wullie]

I loved Peter Ndlovu. Plus, he got around so much when he played for us I was sure we'd have at least one or two Ndlovus in the first team by now.

[niko_cee]

I remember Anelka's move to Real Madrid being labelled a 'transfer saga' and that seemed to spark off all the bollocks.

I reckon Lee Bowyer to Liverpool might have been the blueprint for future sagas. That one seemed to run and run without anyone knowing what was going on.

[Disco]

Chris Bart-Williams and Nii Lamptey were the uncontested kings of the first windows Champ Man (94?), the first one with proper players anyway.

[QE Harold Flair]

I may have been thinking of 94. The same one where Joachim was the don.

[Spammer]

Peter Ndlovu :cool:

Skillful as fuck but couldn't kick a ball to save his life.

[Disco]

Yeah, and rather oddly Don Hutchison and John Sheridan. Someone at SI must have had a real Coventry hard on back then.

[Davgooner]

Teletext/Ceefax was phenomenal. Robbie Fowler once scored a hattrick against us in the time it took to do one loop of the Premier League scores. Finding out we'd signed Suker after coming home from school and loading up Teletext was another highlight.

Another thing that sticks in my mind are those league ladder things that a couple of the magazines would put out at the beginning of each season. Unbelievable scenes.

[John]

Wall charts. :drool:

[Disco]

I used to paint a World Cup Wallchart onto the wall of our shared house, I probably enjoyed that more than most of the football.

[Henry]

This is more just my following of it rather than anything, but I kinda miss knowing pretty much all the players in the Premiership and most in the second tier too. Just don't have time to follow it as closely as I did in school. Which is a good thing really as I'd be worried if I did at my age, but I was looking at the Arsenal first 11 over Christmas and didn't recognise 2-3 of the players, which I found a bit embarrassing.

I'd be lucky if I could remember 2-3 of them, which is a change from the early 90s when as a kid I had an encyclopedic knowledge (some of which I retain) of all the teams.

[John Arne]

Anyone remember postal football (play by mail)? What a rip-off that was. Made up teams, made up players, but REAL prizes.

[Henry]

Anyone remember postal football (play by mail)? What a rip-off that was. Made up teams, made up players, but REAL prizes.

I played it too. Waiting beside the door for the post and then cursing the postman when it didn't come...

Load of shit in retrospect though, yep.

[wullie]

I played one with real names in, I was Lazio and Gazza was the best player in the game world. Fielding calls from all over the country for him, posting off team selection and transfer details while hoping the other person is writing the same so it goes through, waiting ages for the update. To think that now I get annoyed if FM hangs a little while processing matches.

[Spammer]

How did postal football work?

Don't remember that at all.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Much like FM, but by post.

[Cord]

I miss the days when goalkeepers would get actual proper kits designed for them, and those kits would be purple and fluorescent orange with mother of pearl lining and gold leaf inlays, and would also come with massive areas of padding on the arms and chest. Extra points for bobbly friction making plastic bits on the padding.

The bog standard uniformly green template jobs that all manufacturers do these days are complete shite.

[Disco]

I miss the days when goalkeepers would get actual proper kits designed for them, and those kits would be purple and fluorescent orange with mother of pearl lining and gold leaf inlays, and would also come with massive areas of padding on the arms and chest. Extra points for bobbly friction making plastic bits on the padding.

The bog standard uniformly green template jobs that all manufacturers do these days are complete shite.

Some of them were insane, like baffle camo.

http://i.imgur.com/7pX4J7d.png
http://i.imgur.com/e0DUUGH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ljOeKRC.png
http://i.imgur.com/Mh7KA9u.jpg

[John]

I wonder why Campos wrote his 'm's upside down.

[QE Harold Flair]

How did postal football work?

Don't remember that at all.

It largely came from Ajax and the Dutch team of the mid to late 70's.

[Spammer]

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzIwWDk2MA==/z/h6UAAOSw0HVWAB28/$_35.JPG

I completed this one.

[QE Harold Flair]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66jd8OvOdw

[wullie]

http://a1.amlimg.com/YzNlNTFmODc2NjE0ZDE4OTc5NDE3ODM2YzJkMWMzNDLgU-_0aSiIuETcWREHfD7raHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20v NzVkNTNmYTQ3ZDdiMTJmMmY1MzZkNTU5Yjc5MWYyNzZiODk3Nj I3YmM3OTg0NTQxMWQxY2I1YjA3ZWFiODY2Ny5qcGd8fHx8fHw3 MDB4Mzk0fGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS 93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg

http://theyflysohigh.co.uk/communities/7/004/008/430/047//images/4559531246_378x288.jpg

Still got this, fully complete.

[QE Harold Flair]

I have that first one, still. Also have a massive First Division statistics book from the 88/89 season.

[wullie]

I think Orbis is/was local, as a family friend used to take me to Cov games and get the ticket for free so as a thank you he gave me an envelope containing one of every World Cup '90 sticker courtesy of his wife who works for the company.

The day I get married can only ever be the second best of my life.

[Disco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_66jd8OvOdw

That's as high as any Karen Brady team has ever been.

[Kikó]

Baddiel and Skinner was great to watch back in the day. And even the football phone in wasn't all about wind up merchants.

I miss the buzz of the match day. It just feels incredibly over analysed and bastardised due to the interest in it being a business rather than sport.

[Disco]

Fantasy Football destroying Jason Lee was priceless, as were the really silly bits like people with almost the same name as footballers (step forward Tony Badams and Wal Campbell) or Gordon Strachan always being portrayed by a boglin.

It's probably not a coincidence that some of the producers went on to work on TV Burp.