David Bowie is dead.

[-james-]

Fuck the other thread.

What the fuck.

[John]

He's been quietly fighting cancer for ages, hasn't he?

This should mean I never have to see that mocked up Labyrinth 2 poster again though, so every cloud.

[Magic]

Had no idea he was ill, especially with that new album. Its not even been released yet. Out this Friday I believe?

[-james-]

That does ring a bell now, when I first sae the news it seeemed totally out of the blue.

What a shitter.

[Giggles]

New thread? Nah.

[Kikó]

I'm going to guess this new album is going to do pretty well...

[Manc]

Let's dance!

[John Arne]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v--IqqusnNQ

[Raoul Duke]

Very sad news. I didn't know he was ill, so it was quite a shock. Absolute musical icon.

We're approaching a portion of time when all those famous 60/70s bands are starting to die out. It's going to be really weird when The Beatles, Stones, Dylan, Neil Young etc. are all gone :(

[Samadini]

If Paul McCartney outlives Ringo, then the death of The Beatles is going to be fucking mental.

[John Arne]

Paul McCartney is going to live to about 104yrs old.

[wullie]

Had no idea he was ill, especially with that new album. Its not even been released yet. Out this Friday I believe?

Friday just gone.

[Giggles]

Maybe the new thread is warranted, even every radio station is pouring out his stuff this morning. I always found the music rubbish so never really paid much attention but he was never Beatles big or anything was he?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Twitter is like a baby boomer support group this morning.

I thought he was going to die a while back as he was pictured looking frail as anything, but then he randomly released two albums.

[TG09]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoDh_gHDvkk&feature=share

That's all.

[Boydy]

Twitter is like a baby boomer support group this morning.

:D

It really is.

[Mellberg]

Maybe the new thread is warranted, even every radio station is pouring out his stuff this morning. I always found the music rubbish so never really paid much attention but he was never Beatles big or anything was he?

Nobody's Beatles big (Elvis and Sinatra maybe?), but he was a genius. Quite gutted about this.

[-james-]

Just put Hunky Dory on and everything is worse.

[Lee]

Fucking hell. Was it even public knowledge that he was ill?

[Henry]

Never a good morning to wake up to this news. Terrific artist. :(

[Toby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8f_XCH3zmM

[Mazuuurk]

Had no idea he was ill, especially with that new album. Its not even been released yet. Out this Friday I believe?

Coincidences..? :sherlock:

[Magic]

Maybe. He must have known he was dying whilst it was being produced at least. Some effort.

[-james-]

Yeah, it's quite obvious listening to it now that he wrote it as a "bye guys, i'm dying!" thing. What a man.

[Lewis]

I thought he'd been dead since 1983, so this is a bit of a surprise.

[Mazuuurk]

Bet he topped himself to make an epic exit. Didn't take his vitamins or something.

Some commitment, you have to admit.

[Magic]

Didn't realise he was such a cokehead. He went to Berlin (drugs capital of Europe) with Iggy Pop (drugs capital of America) to go to rehab. :cab:

[Toby]

Sky Sports News presenter with perhaps the most offensively opportunistic tweet I've ever seen, spoilered for sheer cuntery.

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[Magic]

Lol @ people 'struggling to make it through the day' though.

Some utter bitch emailed Radio 6 to tell them that she felt nothing, totally numb after the birth of her first son. For weeks she didn't feel any emotion until she heard Bowie on the radio. Then she burst in to tears of joy.

Aye, do one you freak.

[Davgooner]

The state of this:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/entertainment-arts-35278886

686494551406686208

[Toby]

Enjoyed this exchange:

686516868329402370

Some smart arse chimes in with a screenshot of Bieber and co in the top ten songs, only to for it to be pointed out the original Top 30 refers to albums. Simply releasing twelve albums would be impressive now.

[SvN]

Pretty gutted, he's been one of my favourites since I was about 14. Disappointed to never get to see him live.

[Pepe]

Rip in pieces, Bowie mate. My favourite pop artist. :(

[Pepe]

Enough to ask for the day off? :henn0rz:

[Lewis]

The local paper is all over this. Mick Ronson's vocalist DEAD.

[Ian]

Lol @ people 'struggling to make it through the day' though.

Yeah, they need euthanising.

[Offshore Toon]

Yeah, it's quite obvious listening to it now that he wrote it as a "bye guys, i'm dying!" thing. What a man.
Its weird, isn't it? I did think when I heard the news about the cancer that Bowie is exactly the kind of guy to want to use dying as inspiration.

I was gutted when I found out the news. He's up there in the elite of musicians for me. He has some crap to his name, but that comes with being an innovator. He was a part of so much amazing music. Seeing him live was something I was hoping would come, which is part of the reason I'm gutted, but yeah, its shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2y9inP4CqE

[Lewis]

Look at these sad cunts on the news leaving candles in Brixton.

[Ian]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/david-bowie-dead-glaswegians-confuse-7157687

I can't decide if I want that to be true or not.

[Lee]

This is one of those deaths that mages you think 'fuck'. Lacks the shock factor (he was old, end if the illness wasn't widely known about) of Michael Jackson or Diana but I'd argue he's a worldwide name in that echelon.

Who else is there? Madonna and McCartney in music off the top of my head. I'm sure there are others who I don't pay attention to. Beyoncé?

[Offshore Toon]

If Beyoncé dropped dead tomorrow that'd be pretty shocking, yeah.

[Lewis]

We're probably over-doing this because 1) he was English; 2) of the aforementioned 'baby boomer support group'. There are bigger names still to go.

[Disco]

Perhaps I'm just dead inside but I'm yet to be affected by famous people dying, I really do struggle to give a shit.

[Baz]

Perhaps I'm just dead inside but I'm yet to be affected by famous people dying, I really do struggle to give a shit.

Didn't you hear about Steve Irwin?

[Offshore Toon]

We're probably over-doing this because 1) he was English; 2) of the aforementioned 'baby boomer support group'. There are bigger names still to go.
Like who? There may be bigger, but there won't be much better.

[Lee]

We're probably over-doing this because 1) he was English; 2) of the aforementioned 'baby boomer support group'. There are bigger names still to go.

I can't think of many. But that will be informed by me liking Bowie's stuff and not being so interested in others. I've just seen what is apparently the last photo of him taken about a month ago. It doesn't scream 'dying of cancer'. You can usually tell.

[Lee]

If Beyoncé dropped dead tomorrow that'd be pretty shocking, yeah.

I didn't mean now. It might be a shit example as I don't really know who he considered massive now by people much younger and cooler than me.

[Manc]

Perhaps I'm just dead inside but I'm yet to be affected by famous people dying, I really do struggle to give a shit.

Completely normal. I'd be a bit worried if your mate dropped dead and you gave no shits.

[Lewis]

Like who? There may be bigger, but there won't be much better.

They might not be better, but the Americans will give a lot more attention to the likes of Chuck Berry/Little Richard/Aretha Franklin when they croak.

[Magic]

Bowie probably supersedes Daltry/Plant but not Jagger.

[Lewis]

Led Zeppelin are bigger than Bowie (The Who aren't), especially in America; but there are three of those left, so they would have to go in a plane crash to get this amount of mourning.

[Lee]

Some cunt on the One Show has travelled from Cornwall to some shit gathering in Brixton. Says he and his daughter cried down the phone to one another this morning. Alright. I'm only watching this shit for the FA Cup draw.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Women everywhere will lose the plot when Madonna dies, inexplicably because as far as I can see she has literally no talent and hasn't done anything good (or well) in her entire career.

Did they ask Ian Wright for his views on David Bowie?

[Magic]

That cunt really is annoying that used to be on blue Peter.

[Magic]

Lol at us not being a key ball.

[Shindig]

Paul McCartney is going to live to about 104yrs old.

He's already dead.

[Magic]

Fucking hell Eastleigh or Bolton away. :sick:

[Shindig]

Also, we're unlikely to see a popstar snuff it as huge as Michael Jackson.

[Magic]

Beiber suicide. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Nobody older than me has heard of Justin Bieber (even I can't name a single song by him), which plays into the thing about baby boomers again. They run the world.

[Offshore Toon]

I think Bowie will be bigger than Jagger, over here anyway. Jagger is Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, but Bowie is everything gone with one person. Its bigger news because most people didn't know he was ill, plus surely he's surely had more no.1s than the big rock bands?

[Mike]

Was a bit of a shock to read about this on twitter this morning.

For me, this David Bowie was a big part of my childhood
https://i.imgur.com/3W8NoLA.png



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViftZTfRSt8

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think Bowie will be bigger than Jagger, over here anyway. Jagger is Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, but Bowie is everything gone with one person. Its bigger news because most people didn't know he was ill, plus surely he's surely had more no.1s than the big rock bands?

I like Bowie as much as the next man but Jagger is far bigger. Sir Elton will be another big one.

[Magic]

Waters and Gilmour too. Yes I know Mason is still alive but who cares?

Tom Jones?

[Toby]

I think Bowie will be bigger than Jagger, over here anyway. Jagger is Mick Jagger of The Rolling Stones, but Bowie is everything gone with one person. Its bigger news because most people didn't know he was ill, plus surely he's surely had more no.1s than the big rock bands?

On an international level, Jagger blows him out the water. Bowie had two number one singles in America and his top album was the most recent one, which got to number two. The Rolling Stones had so many number ones in both categories that I can't be bothered to count the exact figure. They were probably more successful there than here.

EDIT: I missed the "over here" bit. I guess with my closing sentence I'm agreeing with you a bit.

[Giggles]

Waters and Gilmour too. Yes I know Mason is still alive but who cares?

Tom Jones?

Jones will bury us all.

[Lewis]

Waters and Gilmour too. Yes I know Mason is still alive but who cares?

Tom Jones?

The sort of people who will get carried away by Roger Waters' death are the same people who have spent the last twenty years pretending Syd Barrett was the good one, so they won't know what to do.

[Offshore Toon]

I don't see why we'd be talking about the effect on America, anyway. Otherwise we might as well start talking about which country singers dying will have more of an impact.

[Giggles]

The sort of people who will get carried away by Roger Waters' death are the same people who have spent the last twenty years pretending Syd Barrett was the good one, so they won't know what to do.

Anyone who thinks Barrett was anything other than a steaming pile of shit would probably be too off their head to even notice if one of their own kids were dead, let alone Roger Waters.

[Toby]

I don't see why we'd be talking about the effect on America, anyway. Otherwise we might as well start talking about which country singers dying will have more of an impact.

Fair enough, but if you sub out America in my post for pretty much any country the point is much the same. The Rolling Stones are/were huge on a global scale only really beaten by the likes of The Beatles and maybe Elvis.

[Jimmy Floyd]

People dying doesn't have an 'impact', anyway, especially if their creative output is long behind them. If Paul McCartney died tomorrow then all we'd lose is a load of fucking shit choruses of Hey Jude (a shit song to begin with) the next time the Queen has an anniversary.

[Pepe]

A twat I used to work with (a ginger no less) posted something along the lines of 'Ground control to major tom - RIP Bowie ' on facebook. The same person that less than a year ago misattributed Under Pressure to I don't even remember who. I'm sure you're suuuuuper sad dude.

[Magic]

Vanilla Ice?

[Magic]

People dying doesn't have an 'impact', anyway, especially if their creative output is long behind them. If Paul McCartney died tomorrow then all we'd lose is a load of fucking shit choruses of Hey Jude (a shit song to begin with) the next time the Queen has an anniversary.

Agreed.

A current artist dying is weird. Maybe because Bowie just released a couple of albums and wasn't in hiding/whoring himself out on television/battling some shit disease for years.

[Reg]

Quite sad about this. I think, if he knew he was dying, working on and releasing an album is a cool, generous thing to do. I haven't got to it yet but looking forward to listening.

I'm with Jim on Hey Jude. Not shit exactly but far, far from their best and way overplayed.

[Lewis]

Huw Edwards: 'What's all the fuss about?'
Egg-looking culture man: 'The impact that David Bowie had on the world (his emphasis) was profound.'

Slow down.

[Pepe]

The gays have him to thank for everything.

[Offshore Toon]

A twat I used to work with (a ginger no less) posted something along the lines of 'Ground control to major tom - RIP Bowie ' on facebook. The same person that less than a year ago misattributed Under Pressure to I don't even remember who. I'm sure you're suuuuuper sad dude.
We know Major Tom's a junkie at this point, so that's a bit of a inconsiderate status.

[Offshore Toon]

That raises a good point, Pep. I was talking to my mate before about whether Bowie was hated by any people back in the day. I can't imagine he was universally loved because nobody is, but everybody seems to like him these days. He must have got called poof or gender bender a few times.

[Reg]

I remember reading him saying he always regretted coming out as bisexual and publicly experimenting with sexuality and whatnot. He said in Britain it was fine, but in America a bad move.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Who cares about America anyway?

[Magic]

The bible belt will be celebrating tonight. They almost killed themselves with hails of bullets fired in to the air when Mark Bolan died.

[Offshore Toon]

I remember reading him saying he always regretted coming out as bisexual and publicly experimenting with sexuality and whatnot. He said in Britain it was fine, but in America a bad move.
Exactly. America are backwards nonces. They don't even have their own culture, yet we let them dictate what we consider to be important? They have a larger population and that's it.

[Reg]

In terms of art and entertainment, it's just because of the language I think? They're huge and rich so make a tonne of music, films, television etc, so we watch and listen to it and we're connected in that way.

[Toby]

I always lol at the suggestion America has no culture, but it seems especially out of place from a fan of hip hop and rap.

[Offshore Toon]

I wasn't being serious, especially given the blues.

Lets say White America. :baz:

[Boydy]

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/vampirediaries/images/1/1a/Moonwalk-1.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140406032813

[SvN]

Last photo of him, taken on his birthday on Friday. Hard to believe he was 2 days away from death.

http://i.imgur.com/RQnOrmL.jpg

[The Merse]

I'm going to guess this new album is going to do pretty well...

To be fair, his last effort went to number 1 as well so I wouldn't say that the anticipated chart position this weekend is entirely down to his death, though the actual sales figures will clearly spike. Normally the old one's too... Can we expect Hunky Dory and Ziggy to make entry in the top 10 perhaps?

[The Merse]

Led Zeppelin are bigger than Bowie (The Who aren't), especially in America; but there are three of those left, so they would have to go in a plane crash to get this amount of mourning.

Led Zep are a bigger band than Bowie as an individual artist perhaps, but Bowie had a huge influence on Pop culture through the late 60's to 80's. As well as basically inventing Iggy Pop through the remastering of Raw Power and ousting of the other Stooges as influences of any kind, as well as Lou Reed as a solo artist capable of Transformer (which is a fucking bat out of hell compared with his other efforts). His 'star' value was greater than that of any single contemporary I would say.

[wullie]

The photos released for his birthday might be a bit older and just released the other day, nobody seems certain. This is him on December 7th at some event:

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160125/david-bowie-y-435.jpg

[John Arne]

This one was a few decades before his death...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02067/bowie_2067738b.jpg

[Pavel]

Anyone who thinks Barrett was anything other than a steaming pile of shit would probably be too off their head to even notice if one of their own kids were dead, let alone Roger Waters.

I laughed at this, hard.

At a party two nights ago my housemate was attempting to extol the virtues of Syd Barrett's genius over Dark Side of the Moon et all other forms of music (seemingly).

Was interesting hearing him ramble on whilst tripped out of his balls. He did think he was being chased around the Chinese Supermarket in town by the Vietnamese earlier that day, to be fair.

[Lewis]

Led Zep are a bigger band than Bowie as an individual artist perhaps, but Bowie had a huge influence on Pop culture through the late 60's to 80's. As well as basically inventing Iggy Pop through the remastering of Raw Power and ousting of the other Stooges as influences of any kind, as well as Lou Reed as a solo artist capable of Transformer (which is a fucking bat out of hell compared with his other efforts). His 'star' value was greater than that of any single contemporary I would say.

I'm not sure what your definition of 'star power' is. Bowie was more recognisable than individual members obviously (hence the plane crash point), but Led Zeppelin have influenced more and still serve as a cultural reference point for rock bands.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Bowie probably has a bigger reach than Led Zep. Women, for example.

[Giggles]

Robert Plant reached enough women in his day.

[Pepe]

A twat I used to work with (a ginger no less) posted something along the lines of 'Ground control to major tom - RIP Bowie ' on facebook. The same person that less than a year ago misattributed Under Pressure to I don't even remember who. I'm sure you're suuuuuper sad dude.

My sister is at it now too, posting that quote about wherever I'm going it's going to be fun or something. The same sister that one told me 'what a shit Nirvana cover' when I was listening to Bowie.

[Spammer]

I laughed at this, hard.

At a party two nights ago my housemate was attempting to extol the virtues of Syd Barrett's genius over Dark Side of the Moon et all other forms of music (seemingly).

Was interesting hearing him ramble on whilst tripped out of his balls. He did think he was being chased around the Chinese Supermarket in town by the Vietnamese earlier that day, to be fair.

I'd love to hear how he even got an impression of what Syd Barrett's 'genius' is. He was only on the first Floyd album and did next to fuck all afterwards. First album isn't even the best of their early stuff by a long shot either, if you ask me.

[Giggles]

I'd love to hear how he even got an impression of what Syd Barrett's 'genius' is. He was only on the first Floyd album and did next to fuck all afterwards. First album isn't even the best of their early stuff by a long shot either, if you ask me.

It's absolute gack. The only Floyd album I always refused to have anywhere near my collection (in the days of albums).

[Spammer]

It's absolute gack. The only Floyd album I always refused to have anywhere near my collection (in the days of albums).

I dunno. I found Ummagumma much worse.

Edit: I'm bullshitting. Just looked at the tracklist and Ummagumma is alright. Atom Heart Mother, More and Obscured by Clouds are gash though if you ask me. Rest of them are decent.

[Lewis]

Pink Floyd made two good albums. How anybody can sit through The Wall is beyond me.

[Magic]

This is a proper ':drool:' death though, isn't it? Lemmy was kind of decent but phwoar.

[Giggles]

More is pretty piss indeed, I'd forgot about that. Still better than Barrett though. I like AHM just for the Psychadelic Breakfast and there's a couple of nice little songs on Obscured, even though it's pretty weak as an album. Nothing tops Animals for me, though they ran it close 3 times.

EDIT: Hammer, didn't see the next page.

[Spammer]

I went through a period when I was 16-18 where I'd listen to the wall in its entirety at least twice a week. I spoke to me, maaan. I was just a bit of a resentful, bundled up teenager, basically.

[leedsrevolution]

Pink Floyd and AC/DC were my absolute favourites when I was 13/14. Soon grew out of it. Syd Barrett was a talentless shithouse though. Though I do sometimes put "if it's in you" by him on sometimes - it's awful but strangely endearing.

[Raoul Duke]

Pink Floyd are fucking shit. Just total nonsense.

[Offshore Toon]

I haven't really listened to them properly for a while, but Pink Floyd have some great stuff and aren't shit, especially when you compare them to the better current bands.

[Magic]

Pink Floyd are fucking shit. Just total nonsense.

Don't you have some electronic bullshit or rap to listen to?

[Raoul Duke]

I don't listen to either of those genres regularly.

[Offshore Toon]

Electronic music and rap. :drool:

[Magic]

I know. We've got similar tastes a lot of the bands you like have been inspired by Floyd.

Why don't you like them?

[Boydy]

Someone else heard them before him.

[Magic]

*black guy shock gif*

[Raoul Duke]

It's just noodly, unfettered guitar wanking with some kind of whimsical, cod-Kerouac lyrical bent. So tedious.

Just because they influenced Radiohead (who I do like) doesn't mean I need to like them.

[Magic]

Have you actually listened to it properly? What you've just attempted to describe is not Pink Floyd. At all.

[Giggles]

Radiohead. Now we're talking fucking shit. Yorke cunt sounds like he's having a stroke.

[leedsrevolution]

Radiohead are good but overrated. Jigsaw falling into place is a tune.

[Shindig]

Pink Floyd had a sweet spot. Darkside, Wish You Were Here and Animals. I've grown out of their psychadelic early stuff much like how I've cooled on Can.

[Raoul Duke]

It's cool - we don't all have to like the same stuff :thbgrin:

[Jimmy Floyd]

Dark Side of the Moon is a proper top five of all time masterpiece, and I like Wish You Were Here. The rest of it ranges from inconsistent to indulgent shite.

[Alex]

It's just noodly, unfettered guitar wanking with some kind of whimsical, cod-Kerouac lyrical bent. So tedious.

Just because they influenced Radiohead (who I do like) doesn't mean I need to like them.

I've always found it a little bit difficult to properly express why I don't have a lot of time for Pink Floyd but you've nailed it here, and very concisely too. I'm definitely stealing that if I ever find myself in a situation where I have to explain the matter again.

[Spammer]

The Wall is unbelievably self-indulgent, and it's far from perfect in how the story is executed - largely because it's so self-indulgent spends a lot of time exploring to specifics of Waters' personal experience rather than something people can relate to more generally - like the war stuff. Using your teenage imagination to paper over the cracks though :drool:

[Reg]

I listened to Blackstar for the first time. Some parts were really cool, the saxophone solo in some track or another being a highlight, but not sure overall yet.

More importantly, does anyone else think Hours is fucking brilliant? It's not one of his 'classics', but I've always loved it.

[Pavel]

I'd love to hear how he even got an impression of what Syd Barrett's 'genius' is. He was only on the first Floyd album and did next to fuck all afterwards. First album isn't even the best of their early stuff by a long shot either, if you ask me.

I would imagine, a mixture of Cocaine; his own paralleled interested in Syd Barrett's mental health due to his own battles with epilepsy (he has a, healthy fascination with Ian Curtis for this very reason also - although that said, I love Joy Division partly for my own fascination with Ian Curtis myself) and a general sense of musical narcissism. Which is common amongst folks who listen to 60s-80s music and think that modern music is just 'shit.full.stop.'

...which coming from myself, you can imagine is a statement I do not make lightly.


Radiohead. Now we're talking fucking shit. Yorke cunt sounds like he's having a stroke.

Bullshit. Fantastic band, one of those bands who everyone cheese/chalks simply because they decided to do something completely different from their initial work.

Although if you dislike all of their material, of course you're most welcome to do so - just don't be one of those, 'ugh, they started all this electronic nonsense' wankers.

I watched them on acid at Reading, and I can tell you that if the Public Service Announcements from the early nineties about acid-flashbacks are true, I'm looking forwards to them.

[Giggles]

I would imagine, a mixture of Cocaine; his own paralleled interested in Syd Barrett's mental health due to his own battles with epilepsy (he has a, healthy fascination with Ian Curtis for this very reason also - although that said, I love Joy Division partly for my own fascination with Ian Curtis myself) and a general sense of musical narcissism. Which is common amongst folks who listen to 60s-80s music and think that modern music is just 'shit.full.stop.'

...which coming from myself, you can imagine is a statement I do not make lightly.



Bullshit. Fantastic band, one of those bands who everyone cheese/chalks simply because they decided to do something completely different from their initial work.

Although if you dislike all of their material, of course you're most welcome to do so - just don't be one of those, 'ugh, they started all this electronic nonsense' wankers.

I watched them on acid at Reading, and I can tell you that if the Public Service Announcements from the early nineties about acid-flashbacks are true, I'm looking forwards to them.

Their initial work was muck too. It's Yorke, he's horrific.

[Pavel]

Their initial work was muck too. It's Yorke, he's horrific.

Well, you can't like everyone.

Shit happens, I happen to be one of the believers' in his 'experimental genius' side of things - which isn't to say every single thing he comes out with is sock wanking material - just, worth a listen due to the mind going into it.

[John]

Why are the people who liked them before they started making more electronic stuff wankers?

[Shindig]

Yeah, Pablo Honey was a bit mediocre but The Bends was outstanding.

[Giggles]

The Bends is the audio equivalent to something melting.

[John Arne]

Lady Gaga's "tribute" to Bowie.
What an awful, awful voice she has.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fGBZhsa4VU

Does she usually sound that bad live?

[Pleb]

She was alright singing "Oh 'Merica" at the Super Bowl.

[Toby]

I haven't listened to that but Lady Gaga usually comes across as an almost surprisingly talented musician when her stuff is stripped down to her and a piano. Definitely don't think it's fair to say she has an awful voice, however bad that performance may be.

[Magic]

Our idea of a 'performance' has been completely warped by X Factor and similar shite.

[QE Harold Flair]

I remember a time when a woman could be a star without having to be a stripper.

[Magic]

I remember a time when a woman could be a housewife without having her husband accused of controlling misogyny and abuse.

[QE Harold Flair]

I remember a time when a woman could be a housewife without having her husband accused of controlling misogyny and abuse.

Struggling to understand your point.

[phonics]

I haven't listened to that but Lady Gaga usually comes across as an almost surprisingly talented musician when her stuff is stripped down to her and a piano. Definitely don't think it's fair to say she has an awful voice, however bad that performance may be.

Sounded great on this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g8YaWanY-w

[randomlegend]

I had this argument with someone on the old forum. For all her flamboyance it's pretty clear she can actually sing.

[Lewis]

I remember a time when a woman could be a housewife without having her husband accused of controlling misogyny and abuse.

Then the romance fades.

[Giggles]

I had this argument with someone on the old forum. For all her flamboyance it's pretty clear she can actually sing.

At times.

[John Arne]

I haven't listened to that but Lady Gaga usually comes across as an almost surprisingly talented musician when her stuff is stripped down to her and a piano. Definitely don't think it's fair to say she has an awful voice, however bad that performance may be.

Yes, that's what I had heard - that she had a genuinely great voice, which is why this was so surprising, and awful. My comment that she has an awful voice is in relation to the video that I posted, not a general comment on her body of work.

[QE Harold Flair]

Well 'great' does get thrown around a lot. Competent, more like.

[Toby]

What really strikes me about Born This Way is the competence of Gaga's vocal range.

[QE Harold Flair]

I can't think of anything she's done to be considered great. Some people just have something about them. Leona Lewis is the same - very strong voice but.....so what?

[randomlegend]

I'm almost sure it was you who posted a youtube video of one of her (Leona Lewis') performances on the old board, saying how amazing she was.

I'd have said it was the performance of 'Run' she did on Xfactor if pushed.

[QE Harold Flair]

I'm almost sure it was you who posted a youtube video of one of her (Leona Lewis') performances on the old board, saying how amazing she was.

I'd have said it was the performance of 'Run' she did on Xfactor if pushed.

Yes, as far as talent show winners go she's very good. Probably the best, and Run was her best performance. But even so, there's a level beyond her.

[Pepe]

Lady Gaga. :cool:

[randomlegend]

I quite like her, especially her older songs - they are a bit more interesting than the bollocks generic pop which all sounds exactly the same. It's also nice to have people (especially women, come at me feminismists) who can actually sing in the charts.

[QE Harold Flair]

It makes you wonder why she has to parade around practically naked. She's not even good looking.

[SvN]

Lovely arse, though.

[Pepe]

It makes you wonder why she has to parade around practically naked. She's not even good looking.

Maybe she doesn't have to but she chooses to. Why do you care?

[QE Harold Flair]

Maybe she doesn't have to but she chooses to. Why do you care?

Why do you care if I care?

Shall we play the 'you care if you post' game?

[Pepe]

Whu do you care if I care?

I don't care whether you care or not. Just wondering why you care, since you're the one who brought it up. It's ok if you don't want to reply.

[randomlegend]

Unlike Rhianna, the depths of whose talentlessness knows no bounds, I don't think she does 'have to'.

[Magic]

Was she not raped by her father or an Asian gang when she was younger? That would explain her acting like a slut. She's probably a lesbian paedophile too.

[QE Harold Flair]

I don't care whether you care or not. Just wondering why you care, since you're the one who brought it up. It's ok if you don't want to reply.

Yea, but why do you care though?

[Shindig]

Was she not raped by her father or an Asian gang when she was younger? That would explain her acting like a slut. She's probably a lesbian paedophile too.

According to the internet, she also has a penis.