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Lewis
05-01-2021, 11:05 AM
I don't know who is more pathetic. 'Kamala' or 'Dr. Biden.'

It should be 'Dr' Jill Biden since it's barely a degree qualification. Either way, the future is awful twats - mainly women, it has to be said - insisting you recognise their credentials.

Pepe
05-01-2021, 12:49 PM
The shitter the credential, the more important the recognition.

Spikey M
05-01-2021, 01:03 PM
Agreed.

Spikey M - GCSE

Ian
05-01-2021, 01:07 PM
I have long been considering whether I should kill two birds with one stone by sprucing up my Outlook signature and giving my swimming certificate from primary school the pride of place it deserves.

Spikey M
05-01-2021, 01:11 PM
Ian 'webbed feet' Welby - 10m Backstroke.

Lofty
05-01-2021, 01:14 PM
You mean you don't have your three patches stitched onto your speedos for the local leisure centre twonks to gaze upon?

Raoul Duke
05-01-2021, 05:21 PM
Ian 'webbed feet' Welby - 10m Backstroke.

Don't put breaststroke or you'll never make it past people's spam filters

Ian
05-01-2021, 05:30 PM
Ian 'webbed feet' Welby - 10m Backstroke.

I was fucking diabolical at backstroke, it has to be said. 10m in a straight line would have been a result.

randomlegend
05-01-2021, 05:36 PM
I can't swim.

Well I can, quite strongly for about 10 metres. Then I die.

Sir Andy Mahowry
05-01-2021, 05:50 PM
I was fucking diabolical at backstroke, it has to be said. 10m in a straight line would have been a result.

I was always worried that I'd smash my head against a pool wall and/or a person when I was doing the backstroke.

Ian
05-01-2021, 05:54 PM
That wasn't my issue, I just ended up at the diagonally opposite corner of the pool without intending to.

Spoonsky
05-01-2021, 06:35 PM
Ian 'webbed feet' Welby - 10m Backstroke

He's not posting like usual and I think we need to put him under a little pressure.

Kikó
05-01-2021, 06:50 PM
Another one for the shit swimmer club.

Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 09:15 AM
Seeing these American senate results from Georgia, how is it that everything in that country is so ridiculously and exactly polarised? Every single election result I've seen in the last couple of months seems to have been 50.2% plays 49.8% one way or the other.

phonics
06-01-2021, 01:08 PM
The GOP seeing Trump get his shit pushed in and then still being too afraid of his base so let him tank the Senate as well. Incredible stuff.

igor_balis
06-01-2021, 05:15 PM
Yeah some random girl who was friends with my mate's sister would occasionally pop up on facebook saying stuff, and to this day I still can't understand why she had (Bsc) next to her name. What a mentalist.

Giggles
06-01-2021, 06:54 PM
Things seem to be going well over there.

phonics
06-01-2021, 07:41 PM
They would have been shot dead if they were on the left.

Lofty
06-01-2021, 07:42 PM
Absolute madness :D

Spoonsky
06-01-2021, 07:44 PM
lol at everyone who said you should never compare Trump to Fascism.

It’s the March on Rome, except it’s not going to work.

Gray Fox
06-01-2021, 07:47 PM
He's chucked Pence under the bus too.

Lewis
06-01-2021, 07:48 PM
It's about thirty mongs lad chill out. I would still shoot them though. You can't have people doing that.

Waffdon
06-01-2021, 07:49 PM
Huff reporting shots were fired in the chamber :D

Sir Andy Mahowry
06-01-2021, 07:51 PM
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At least Covid will take out a lot of dickheads there.

Pepe
06-01-2021, 07:53 PM
Am I missing some bantz? Someone post the highlights.

Waffdon
06-01-2021, 07:53 PM
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Lol

Spoonsky
06-01-2021, 07:53 PM
Hopefully a lot of the Republicans who’ve supported Trump the last four years will see the logical conclusion to his rhetoric, as they shelter in place in their offices right now.

Sir Andy Mahowry
06-01-2021, 07:54 PM
If they were ethnic they'd be hailed as terrorists.

As long as they don't kill anyone (if they do they're deemed mentally ill) they'll be hailed as heroes by many...

Boydy
06-01-2021, 07:56 PM
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Bernanke
06-01-2021, 08:03 PM
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Full on coup. :eyemouth:

Pepe
06-01-2021, 08:04 PM
A source tells me Putin is sending some nukes to help Tronnie.

niko_cee
06-01-2021, 08:06 PM
America always struck me as an insanely militarized place so fuck knows how anyone with any sort of malicious intent has managed to get within a hundred yards of the capitol building, let alone storm the chamber of the house. What the fuck are the security folk up to? Or is the plan to let them in, make fools of themselves by weeing on the floor and then hope they leave?

Gray Fox
06-01-2021, 08:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErEvOpDXIAMOkjv?format=png&name=small

Where's Ramirez when you need him?

Lewis
06-01-2021, 08:09 PM
Hopefully a lot of the Republicans who’ve supported Trump the last four years will see the logical conclusion to his rhetoric, as they shelter in place in their offices right now.

His 'No Justice, No Peace' speech will live in infamy.

Lofty
06-01-2021, 08:12 PM
America always struck me as an insanely militarized place so fuck knows how anyone with any sort of malicious intent has managed to get within a hundred yards of the capitol building, let alone storm the chamber of the house. What the fuck are the security folk up to? Or is the plan to let them in, make fools of themselves by weeing on the floor and then hope they leave?

The commander in chief is responsible for the security around there rather than local authority apparently, and he has an agenda.

Pepe
06-01-2021, 08:16 PM
Sent them all on a break.

Spoonsky
06-01-2021, 08:29 PM
It's about thirty mongs lad chill out. I would still shoot them though. You can't have people doing that.

A woman’s in critical condition after getting shot in the chest, according to CNN.

niko_cee
06-01-2021, 08:29 PM
The commander in chief is responsible for the security around there rather than local authority apparently, and he has an agenda.

I did think of this but dismissed it as fanciful.


Sent them all on a break.

:D

What a country.

Lofty
06-01-2021, 08:32 PM
I did think of this but dismissed it as fanciful.



:D

What a country.

Good old federalism.

niko_cee
06-01-2021, 08:33 PM
Always knew the founding fathers were idiots.

Should've never left and all that.

Lewis
06-01-2021, 08:36 PM
A woman’s in critical condition after getting shot in the chest, according to CNN.

Mongs gonna mong.

Waffdon
06-01-2021, 08:41 PM
The picture of Chewbacca at the desk :lol:

igor_balis
06-01-2021, 08:41 PM
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Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 08:55 PM
What sort of a bizarre individual is DJT to go to these lengths? The guy's a hotelier ffs.

mugbull
06-01-2021, 09:09 PM
Liberals are the real problem tho, what with their multitude of genders

Pepe
06-01-2021, 09:16 PM
Everyone is the problem.

Pepe
06-01-2021, 09:16 PM
What sort of a bizarre individual is DJT to go to these lengths? The guy's a hotelier ffs.

So true. You usually expect this kind of move from generals, not some reality TV steak-pusher.

Bernanke
06-01-2021, 09:26 PM
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:lol:

Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 09:32 PM
Hopefully the Virginia National Guard, or the Nation of Islam, or the Baltimore Orioles or whoever the next line of defence is just goes in there and wipes them out now, sparking a decade-long civil war and establishing communist China as an unchallenged global hegemon.

Giggles
06-01-2021, 09:32 PM
Someone’s on the ball in there at least.


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Lewis
06-01-2021, 09:35 PM
lol at our politicians falling over themselves to condemn it like it's an actual coup attempt.

Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 09:38 PM
lol at our politicians falling over themselves to condemn it like it's an actual coup attempt.

Lefty twitter is in its element. A guy I know has just tweeted 'History will remember which side we were on'. History will remember that you work for Byron Burger in west London, mate.

Luca
06-01-2021, 09:56 PM
To be fair, this could be a lot worse if the average Trump supporter had more than 4 brain cells and an actual plan beyond "hurr durr let's take some photos in the Capitol." The problem is not so much what happened (because you're right, it's not an 'actual' coup attempt), but it's a signal to others with perhaps more malicious intentions about how easy it would be.

Lewis
06-01-2021, 10:01 PM
It's easy because they haven't just wasted them, which they would if they weren't a bunch of obvious tits.

Boydy
06-01-2021, 10:05 PM
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Christ.

mugbull
06-01-2021, 10:11 PM
Everyone is the problem.

What a facile argument

Lewis
06-01-2021, 10:15 PM
Jon Sopel absolutely STAGGERED that so many people can believe that the election was bent and the President-elect is controlled by a foreign power.

Giggles
06-01-2021, 10:16 PM
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Christ.

That’s where brains need to decorate a wall.

Bernanke
06-01-2021, 11:12 PM
Dude looks straight out of Tenet. The Punisher logo. :lol:

It's insane to me that Twitter hasn't at least suspended Donald at this point. I get that this drives e n g a g e m e n t, but he's completely unhinged.

Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 11:17 PM
Presumably it would help if he were to tweet a stronger rebuke at some point.

Adamski
06-01-2021, 11:29 PM
It's about thirty mongs lad chill out. I would still shoot them though. You can't have people doing that.

https://i.postimg.cc/rFBKBb6J/A6-E80164-1-B3-B-4-D64-BB0-C-8-D91575060-DD.jpg.jpg

Jimmy Floyd
06-01-2021, 11:34 PM
Jesus, the unstoppable seething anger in the Trump mongs 'interviewed' in ITV's report. You can't contest that on a logical platform. A bullet in the head would be a sweet release for most of them.

It makes one realise what events like the French revolution must have been like, just throngs of people overtaken by aimless fury.

Queenslander
06-01-2021, 11:43 PM
That is a firm "Pull your heads in cunts!" from our right wing Govenment who run 2 prison Islands for Brown people.

https://i.ibb.co/bL22yFn/FB-IMG-1609976499192.jpg (https://ibb.co/82ddRbV)

Spammer
07-01-2021, 12:22 AM
Twitter have banned Trump for 12 hours apparently

Luca
07-01-2021, 12:27 AM
They also deleted two of his tweets, which is interesting.

Can Twitter legally delete his tweets? Mustn't all of the president's written (lol) statements be entered into the record by law?

Lewis
07-01-2021, 12:56 AM
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:lol:

Yevrah
07-01-2021, 01:10 AM
What were Trump's deleted tweets?

Lewis
07-01-2021, 01:15 AM
Mitch McConnell going on about 'insurrection', Chuck Schumer comparing it to Pearl Harbor. They're going to milk this for decades.

Luca
07-01-2021, 01:16 AM
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:lol:

So good. :D

Lewis
07-01-2021, 01:18 AM
'One of the darkest days in recent American history'. Really?

Spoonsky
07-01-2021, 01:33 AM
Mitch McConnell going on about 'insurrection', Chuck Schumer comparing it to Pearl Harbor. They're going to milk this for decades.

:nod:

Spoonsky
07-01-2021, 01:36 AM
Senator from Colorado bringing up the fall of the Roman Republic. :D

Pepe
07-01-2021, 02:02 AM
Senator from Colorado bringing up the fall of the Roman Republic. :D

Didn't you do that a page ago?

EDIT: Nah, misremembered what you said.

Sir Andy Mahowry
07-01-2021, 03:22 AM
Here are the tweets that were deleted btw:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/00/37696476-9120399-In_a_shocking_tweet_Donald_Trump_sent_mixed_messag ed_Wednesday_r-a-14_1609978712967.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/01/37701674-9120399-image-a-17_1609982611908.jpg

That first one...

John Arne
07-01-2021, 03:36 AM
This is a masterpiece.

https://gyazo.com/b34cfca6d265a912e4e73c484f6dc861.jpeg

Lofty
07-01-2021, 05:55 AM
'One of the darkest days in recent American history'. Really?

Supposedly the last time Congress was attacked was 1812 so...

Jimmy Floyd
07-01-2021, 07:32 AM
And what a much better job we did of it.

Is Donald going to end this blowing his own brains out?

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 07:34 AM
Supposedly the last time Congress was attacked was 1812 so...

There's some shit for brains having a tantrum. Forgotten by next Tuesday.

Jimmy Floyd
07-01-2021, 08:03 AM
Three died in 'medical emergencies' as well as the one who got shot? Did they have heart attacks from the excitement of it all, or did they literally shit themselves to death?

On another note, Twitter is almost unreadable from the grandstanding lefties, particularly the Brits.

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 08:30 AM
The (far) right and the (far) left are equally absurd at the moment. Fully mental. I got told that being a centrist means I must be neutral about genocide the other day. Apparently only left wing people are anti-genocide, right wing people are pro-genocide and then there's me in the middle not caring.

That she managed to have such a simplistic world view at the same time as carrying a truckload of superiority was impressive.

Lofty
07-01-2021, 08:30 AM
There's some shit for brains having a tantrum. Forgotten by next Tuesday.

I honestly don't think so. It's pretty significant that the President held a rally whipping people up about the 'stolen election' right before this and then actively encouraged his supporters as they interrupted the confirmation of the President elect. People died during it. I think even the GOP will be railing against this for a while because who knows who the nutters were going to execute after they did Pelosi.

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 08:34 AM
People died during BLM, Sandyhook, etc. Fast forward a month... nobody cares anymore. On to the next news item.

Lofty
07-01-2021, 08:36 AM
People died during BLM, Sandyhook, etc. Fast forward a month... nobody cares anymore. On to the next news item.

People die in the street probably every minute in the US, I reckon you could count the number of violent deaths in Congress in the last century on one hand.

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 08:37 AM
People die in the street probably every minute in the US, I reckon you could count the number of violent deaths in Congress in the last century on one hand.

We'll meet back here in one month and one of us will get to do the Vinnie Mac grapefruits walk, agreed?

Queenslander
07-01-2021, 08:37 AM
Surely these blokes will get more than a slap on th wrists.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ks62gq/house_speaker_nancy_pelosis_office_destroyed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

John Arne
07-01-2021, 08:50 AM
All said and done, and 138 Republicans still voted to sustain the objection.

Boydy
07-01-2021, 09:13 AM
Three died in 'medical emergencies' as well as the one who got shot? Did they have heart attacks from the excitement of it all, or did they literally shit themselves to death?

On another note, Twitter is almost unreadable from the grandstanding lefties, particularly the Brits.
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:D

Not sure how true that is tbf.

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 09:21 AM
"On accident" might be the thing that annoys me most about America.

Jimmy Floyd
07-01-2021, 09:34 AM
They have many similar such atrocities. The one that winds me up is pronouncing 'Carlos' to rhyme with 'dose', instead of 'doss'.

Ian
07-01-2021, 09:40 AM
"On accident" might be the thing that annoys me most about America.

"Could care less" is worse.

Spikey M
07-01-2021, 09:44 AM
"Could care less" is worse.

It is but David Mitchell has already held them to account for that. I feel like this needs it's own platform.

Kikó
07-01-2021, 09:56 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErHtRL6XYAAkWVg?format=jpg&name=900x900

I liked it.

Disco
07-01-2021, 09:59 AM
Imagine how dumb you'd have to be to be there in the first place, then how much dumber you'd have to get to let yourself be filmed mid-ransack, waving at the cameras even.

Jimmy Floyd
07-01-2021, 10:11 AM
This sort of thing is what I find laughable:


David Lammy
@DavidLammy
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Donald Trump is an enemy of democracy. Every British politician who failed to condemn his actions after the Presidential election should issue an apology tonight.

How self-important do you want to be?

Kikó
07-01-2021, 10:13 AM
Not like David Lammy that.

SincereTheRebel
07-01-2021, 10:22 AM
I want to see Trump in his office with a pistol in his hand refusing to leave.

Lewis
07-01-2021, 11:03 AM
I honestly don't think so. It's pretty significant that the President held a rally whipping people up about the 'stolen election' right before this and then actively encouraged his supporters as they interrupted the confirmation of the President elect. People died during it. I think even the GOP will be railing against this for a while because who knows who the nutters were going to execute after they did Pelosi.

This is partly what I meant by milking it for decades. They will condense 'Trumpism' into this, so next time somebody going for the party ticket suggests kicking immigrants about or regulating social media Mitt Romney and a bunch of bowtie war criminals will sign an open letter mewling about this.

Lewis
07-01-2021, 02:02 PM
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You invaded Canada fellas.

Kikó
07-01-2021, 04:22 PM
You won't be able to see Trump on instagram or facebook for a bit.

Spoonsky
07-01-2021, 04:26 PM
They have many similar such atrocities. The one that winds me up is pronouncing 'Carlos' to rhyme with 'dose', instead of 'doss'.

I'm pretty sure that's how Carlos himself would pronounce it.

'Could care less' I'll give you, I didn't realize it was just an American thing.

Jimmy Floyd
07-01-2021, 04:35 PM
He wouldn't, in the same way he doesn't say 'Lohs' Angeles.

Pepe
07-01-2021, 04:37 PM
Car loss

Spoonsky
07-01-2021, 05:49 PM
I’ve been doned.

mikem
07-01-2021, 11:44 PM
This is partly what I meant by milking it for decades. They will condense 'Trumpism' into this, so next time somebody going for the party ticket suggests kicking immigrants about or regulating social media Mitt Romney and a bunch of bowtie war criminals will sign an open letter mewling about this.

People toss around “Trumpism” all the time and after four years I genuinely have no clue what they are yammering about.

In terms of Trump himself it doesn’t seem to be anything outside of narcissism / egotism. He’s difficult to describe in political terms because he doesn’t seem to have any conventional political goals. If he does, he doesn’t pursue them outside of media. Republican leadership just rolls him for their political priorities while using him to access a voting base they can’t reach.

Of course it is a failed coup. If you attempt to set up a perception that the count is rigged or should be stopped by changing how votes are counted only in states you are closely contesting. Then you follow it by refusing to accept that there were not improprieties after 60 odd cases are thrown out at all levels. Cases in which when pressed to actually show fraud lawyers demure because they don’t want to lose their licenses for lying under oath. And then follow that up with a plan to send multiple slates of contested electors to force political pressure on the legislature to make a deal. A tactic, which Lindsey Graham of all people pointed out in a Senate speech last night, was last employed to overturn elections during Reconstruction to instill Jom Crow and create a white hegemony.

Ok, so if it was Bolivia we’d technically call it a pact transition and not a coup. But nobody without a political science PhD knows what that is so let’s just call it a failed coup. Sure it is a dumb Wiley Coyote ACME ordered coup attempt but does that matter?

John Arne
08-01-2021, 03:44 AM
There still seems to be a lot of vagueness around the people who died. The one lady got shot, the other bloke who tased himself, but then the other two just randomly died? /conspiracy



Three others died after suffering unspecified medical emergencies on Capitol grounds, police said.

Lofty
08-01-2021, 08:31 AM
Pffft that's not a conspiracy theory. Claiming the woman who was shot never existed and is a crisis actor employed by 'the directors' is a conspiracy theory.

Jimmy Floyd
08-01-2021, 10:02 AM
If they do actually sign off the thing to impeach Trump (which is a waste of time but they seem keen on it), will Mike Pence then become the 46th President in a Dönitz-esque three-day reign?

Ian
08-01-2021, 10:15 AM
Yeah, it'll be a good one for the trivia / quiz boffins.

I saw one person saying it'll stop him doling out pardons / pardoning himself but I dunno how that works (are presidential powers stopped or whatever while an impeachment is on the go?) or whether he's even likely to face prosecution after his presidency is done anyway.

Lewis
08-01-2021, 10:45 AM
Following the speaking fees interference and the made-up life stories, this push to claim that the summer riots were all ruthlessly supressed is the sort of thing that in normal times would draw a bit of 'Hang on mate...' I can't remember which Twitter legend said it, but you're looking at the first administration in history backed by ninety-nine per cent of institutional authorities, and all the people who normally see 'fascism' around every corner can't get enough of it.

Pepe
08-01-2021, 12:43 PM
If our side does it, it is democracy. If the other side does it, it is fascism.

I think the impeachment thing is just worth it so that he cannot run again.

Kikó
08-01-2021, 12:44 PM
I've read your post about 4 times Lewis and I still don't understand what it's trying to say. Educate me?

Lewis
08-01-2021, 01:23 PM
The George Floyd mourning process caused tens of billions of dollars worth of damage (as an aside, the murder rate is up almost forty per cent in most major cities) whilst receiving institutional support from politicians, media organisations, the cultural sector, corporations, and every other twat with any social clout outside of right-wing radio personalities - and now they are all in on pushing the new NARRATIVE that the summer riots were all quickly and ruthlessly suppressed. 'Imagine if they were Black Lives Matter!' We don't have to imagine. They burned cities down, celebrities and politicians raised their bail money, and barely anyone was charged.

Why are Chevron and Coca-Cola issuing statements about the sanctity of institutions? Institutions which, as of three days ago, were institutionally racist and not fit for contemporary purpose. Because they spent 2020 excusing and supporting violent riots from wallies who think the system is against them, so this has to be an 'insurrection' and an 'attempted coup' (which it just wasn't) to draw the line between them. This is every bit as 'fascist' as going off on foreigners and putting up trade barriers. Fascism requires the 'corporate state', and now they have one.

Boydy
08-01-2021, 01:53 PM
The George Floyd mourning process caused tens of billions of dollars worth of damage (as an aside, the murder rate is up almost forty per cent in most major cities) whilst receiving institutional support from politicians, media organisations, the cultural sector, corporations, and every other twat with any social clout outside of right-wing radio personalities - and now they are all in on pushing the new NARRATIVE that the summer riots were all quickly and ruthlessly suppressed. 'Imagine if they were Black Lives Matter!' We don't have to imagine. They burned cities down, celebrities and politicians raised their bail money, and barely anyone was charged.

Why are Chevron and Coca-Cola issuing statements about the sanctity of institutions? Institutions which, as of three days ago, were institutionally racist and not fit for contemporary purpose. Because they spent 2020 excusing and supporting violent riots from wallies who think the system is against them, so this has to be an 'insurrection' and an 'attempted coup' (which it just wasn't) to draw the line between them. This is every bit as 'fascist' as going off on foreigners and putting up trade barriers. Fascism requires the 'corporate state', and now they have one.

https://i.ibb.co/kDm8zqT/EY0-Om-Js-X0-AEyn-RB.jpg

Foe
08-01-2021, 07:00 PM
He’s not wrong.

Our CEO fired out a company email about it and wouldn’t be surprised if something went out externally.

I work for a pretty energy firm and my immediate reaction was “why the fuck is he talking about that?”.

This is the same dude who said absolutely sweet fuck all about the war in Azerbaijan despite having a considerable presence on Azerbaijan. Local staff rightly picked him up on it after he posted a global post about world fertility day or something instead. Mental.

PR for the sake of PR. Stay the fuck out of it and concentrate on your own business. If it had impact on staff then absolutely weigh in.

Spoonsky
08-01-2021, 08:48 PM
The George Floyd mourning process caused tens of billions of dollars worth of damage (as an aside, the murder rate is up almost forty per cent in most major cities) whilst receiving institutional support from politicians, media organisations, the cultural sector, corporations, and every other twat with any social clout outside of right-wing radio personalities - and now they are all in on pushing the new NARRATIVE that the summer riots were all quickly and ruthlessly suppressed. 'Imagine if they were Black Lives Matter!' We don't have to imagine. They burned cities down, celebrities and politicians raised their bail money, and barely anyone was charged.

Why are Chevron and Coca-Cola issuing statements about the sanctity of institutions? Institutions which, as of three days ago, were institutionally racist and not fit for contemporary purpose. Because they spent 2020 excusing and supporting violent riots from wallies who think the system is against them, so this has to be an 'insurrection' and an 'attempted coup' (which it just wasn't) to draw the line between them. This is every bit as 'fascist' as going off on foreigners and putting up trade barriers. Fascism requires the 'corporate state', and now they have one.

:console:

Kikó
08-01-2021, 08:50 PM
Why the liberal lefties are really at fault by
Lewis | The Spectator

Luca
08-01-2021, 09:47 PM
While I don’t agree with Lewis (the burning cities down bit is obviously not on, but comparing people rioting because of years of actual systemic injustice coming to a head to people rioting because some demagogue is making baseless claims about an election to rile them up isn’t fair), we probably won’t get progress by shutting out the other side and responding with memes.

“The other side are idiots so I won’t engage” is part of what sparked the perceived disenfranchisement of rural America. Many are probably too far gone by now, but this rhetoric is unsustainable if we want progress.

Boydy
08-01-2021, 09:49 PM
While I don’t agree with Lewis (the burning cities down bit is obviously not on, but comparing people rioting because of years of actual systemic injustice coming to a head to people rioting because some demagogue is making baseless claims about an election to rile them up isn’t fair), we probably won’t get progress by shutting out the other side and responding with memes.

“The other side are idiots so I won’t engage” is part of what sparked the perceived disenfranchisement of rural America. Many are probably too far gone by now, but this rhetoric is unsustainable if we want progress.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ5LU-dXYAAbqZd.jpg

Luca
08-01-2021, 09:53 PM
Indeed, it's an issue for both sides.

randomlegend
08-01-2021, 10:04 PM
The other side actually are idiots though to be honest.

Boydy
08-01-2021, 10:06 PM
Just to be clear, I mean liberal as separate from the actual left.

Jimmy Floyd
08-01-2021, 10:12 PM
The real divide isn't between left/right or woke/nazi. It's between people who care and people who don't. The latter are prisoners of the former.

Spikey M
08-01-2021, 10:17 PM
I've always thought the biggest gulf is between Libertarian and Authoritarian. Left and Right looks exactly the same under Authoritarian leadership.

Lofty
08-01-2021, 10:40 PM
It is all a bit mad I agree, I had to do a compulsory diversity e learning module last month (everyone had to) and half of it was focused on George Floyd and BLM.

Lewis
08-01-2021, 11:10 PM
While I don’t agree with Lewis (the burning cities down bit is obviously not on, but comparing people rioting because of years of actual systemic injustice coming to a head to people rioting because some demagogue is making baseless claims about an election to rile them up isn’t fair), we probably won’t get progress by shutting out the other side and responding with memes.

“The other side are idiots so I won’t engage” is part of what sparked the perceived disenfranchisement of rural America. Many are probably too far gone by now, but this rhetoric is unsustainable if we want progress.

The 'baseless claims about an election' only managed to rile people up because of the 'perceived disenfranchisement of rural America'. You can't split the two into serious and non-serious concerns, one worthy of a riot and one not. After all, the summer riots were kicked off because a career criminal overdosed resisting arrest and a wanted nonce was shot going for a knife after fighting with the police. Are they noble, coherent causes in isolation? No, so it's much easier to say that violent lawlessness is shithouse regardless, and that everyone who said otherwise in the summer is a retard.

randomlegend
08-01-2021, 11:24 PM
because a career criminal overdosed resisting arrest

Both autopsies had the primary cause of death as being directly caused by the restraint. The police officer continued kneeling on his neck for two minutes after he was dead and didn't stop even once paramedics tried to attend to him. He was also handcuffed throughout the entire time they were kneeling on him.

Stop being a retarded edgelord.

mugbull
08-01-2021, 11:33 PM
The only people on this forum whose intelligence has survived these retarded culture wars are Jimmy and (sometimes) Boydy. Think a few years ago people here wouldn't so easily be letting facts fly out the window in return for aggrandized self-satisfaction

Lewis
08-01-2021, 11:36 PM
I originally had 'wigging out', because the autopsy presumably only mentioned the fentanyl intoxication and meth use by-the-by; but okay. I stand corrected. Racism killed him, and they were right to burn cities to the ground. But the nonce they shot reaching for a knife? Did his death justify riots? Maybe so, and maybe Trump supporters can launch another kick-off over the woman shot in their riot. Can you see how this gets stupid?

Sir Andy Mahowry
08-01-2021, 11:37 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

Trump has been permabanned from Twitter.

Shindig
08-01-2021, 11:38 PM
I care about wor Culture.

Pepe
08-01-2021, 11:43 PM
What about that "autonomous zone" in Seattle? :harold:

Kikó
08-01-2021, 11:46 PM
Matt Le Tissier has headed over to parler as well. Big day of losses for Twitter.

Lewis
08-01-2021, 11:48 PM
What about that "autonomous zone" in Seattle? :harold:

People literally got away with murder in that, and the mayor cheered them on. But let's not conflate any of it with lawless idiocy.

Pepe
08-01-2021, 11:50 PM
Murder is cool if it is to combat systemic injustices mate.

Lewis
08-01-2021, 11:51 PM
That's probably the loophole the Chinese have used to tweet about the positive results of their genocide.

Pepe
08-01-2021, 11:55 PM
Meanwhile, the son of my Nigerian former colleague is three years above his grade in math(s).

Boydy
08-01-2021, 11:59 PM
Bernie would have won.

Pepe
09-01-2021, 12:02 AM
Bernie :drool:

Spoonsky
09-01-2021, 12:11 AM
I mean, Luca’s right. Problem is that neither side is willing to give an inch at the moment. Progress will come if Democrats start actually trying to win rural voters by addressing their concerns, but the rampant classism in the Dems means that might be a few years away still - and in the meantime half of those voters are utterly convinced the entire party is made up of Communist pedophiles.

At the same time, I just can’t believe that you guys don’t see the difference between the protests of the summer (let’s grant for the sake of argument that they were violent, unjustified, and did burn cities to the ground, whatever that means) and breaking into the seat of national government on the very day that your guy is to be officially voted out in the exact same building.

Spoonsky
09-01-2021, 12:15 AM
Bernie would have won.

It’s a funny situation where he’s the exception to the classism I mentioned above, and his policies would be best placed to win those rural voters. At the same time those screams of COMMUNISM across all conservative media would have been so loud I’m not sure he would have been able to get through to them.

Luca
09-01-2021, 12:17 AM
I agree with the second bit of Lewis’ point, actually. Both forms of violence are reprehensible and the double standard being applied to them is bad.

I just think that comparing the triggers and calling them equal isn’t fair. The perceived disenfranchisment itself in isolation doesn’t lead to storming the Capitol without the trigger of “they stole the election, defend yourselves” from the literal POTUS, which is a claim that is knowingly baseless (i.e., Trump knows it’s baseless, even if Rudy believes) and meant to stoke anger. The other set of riots were in some sense a loosely organized reaction to a set of events, and those stoking the flames were individual wally grassroots community leaders. It’s different when the order seems to come directly from POTUS, who should be held to a higher standard. And yes, I do think the casual defense of people burning and looting cities by local politicians wasn’t right either in the summer.

In summary, one of these events could likely have been avoided if the POTUS wanted to. The other event relied on individual grassroots organizers to not stoke the flame. One of those groups should be held to a higher standard, but the outcomes are equally bad.

Lewis
09-01-2021, 12:29 AM
I'm willing to hold the President of the United States to a higher standard than fuckwit 'community leaders' and celebrities, but not the senior/famous Democrats who are on record boosting their preferred violence. They are all in the same pile.

Spoonsky
09-01-2021, 12:34 AM
But you understand this wasn’t just any normal riot, this was a riot aimed at disrupting the transition of power. It was a threat (however impotent) to the functioning of the democracy. (Mikem explained well above.)

Trump also incited armed Republicans to invade the Michigan statehouse during the summer and nobody gave one-thousandth of a shit. It’s just apples and oranges with what happened on Wednesday.

The outcomes are not equally bad.

Pepe
09-01-2021, 12:38 AM
The potential outcomes are definitely worse for what happened this week. The actual outcomes go the other way though.

Bernanke
09-01-2021, 12:52 AM
So, in addition to the Twitter ban for Donny, the entire far right media ecosystem seems in the process of being dismantled today. Bannon's Youtube gone, Flynn and Ben Garrison are also off Twitter, Parler is getting blocked in both Apple and Google's app stores, etc.

The tech bros had a Zoom-meeting and flipped the switch.

Pepe
09-01-2021, 12:53 AM
Good that cancel culture is not a thing.

mugbull
09-01-2021, 01:04 AM
Parler's gonna end up like Signal, except for rednecks instead of Muslims

Lewis
09-01-2021, 01:04 AM
But you understand this wasn’t just any normal riot, this was a riot aimed at disrupting the transition of power. It was a threat (however impotent) to the functioning of the democracy. (Mikem explained well above.)

Trump also incited armed Republicans to invade the Michigan statehouse during the summer and nobody gave one-thousandth of a shit. It’s just apples and oranges with what happened on Wednesday.

The outcomes are not equally bad.

Weren't the summer riots all about disrupting institutional power (democracy itself insofar as it bolsters white supremacy)? I hope they were, otherwise they were even more stupid than I thought. In which case your argument is merely one of symbolism owing to it all being concentrated in one very important place. That is a good argument, but things like private property and the rule of law are as symbolically important as the bollocks shop on the hill, so you still end up doling out arbitrary favour based on what you happen to like.

Spoonsky
09-01-2021, 01:32 AM
I mean, the summer protests were decentralized and had a variety of demands, from “down with the US government” to “stop shooting unarmed black people please”. A lot of it was just raw anger from people who’ve seen the same thing happen one too many times. There was no single goal in mind.

Meanwhile the mongs who mobbed the capital literally told reporters that their goal was to “save America” and keep Trump in power. And they had been organized that morning by Trump himself.

It’s not just about symbolism (it would be if they had chosen any other day for it), it’s about elections and peaceful transfer of power. Democracy only works if the losers admit that they’ve lost, otherwise you’re on a road to authoritarianism (left or right).

Sir Andy Mahowry
09-01-2021, 02:45 AM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/579674700687474688/797294402505670718/Screen_Shot_2021_01_08_at_8.31.12_PM.webp

These were swiftly deleted from the POTUS account.

Giggles
09-01-2021, 07:36 AM
They don’t look like he did them.

Spikey M
09-01-2021, 09:25 AM
He got Marcus Rashford's team in.

Kikó
09-01-2021, 09:56 AM
Good that cancel culture is not a thing.

Maybe after 4 years stoking tension which caused a coup attempt (https://davidallengreen.com/2021/01/the-contest-between-violent-populism-and-constitutionalism-and-why-it-was-not-inevitable-that-yesterdays-attempted-coup-in-the-united-states-would-fail/), there should be *some* consequences? Private companies can do as they please of course.

Jimmy Floyd
09-01-2021, 10:13 AM
I think people misunderstand 'freedom of speech'. He has freedom of speech, Twitter decided having him exercise it on their platform was not what they wanted, so they took him off it. He can continue to exercise freedom of speech on whatever platforms will hear him. The state isn't putting him behind bars for his speech. That would be when freedom of speech was compromised.

Lewis
09-01-2021, 10:51 AM
Twitter was claimed to be a 'public space' when he was blocking people from viewing his content, so it's hard to see how this doesn't end up with them accepting publisher status (and all of its liabilities). It's a decent first test of the corporate state.

Jimmy Floyd
09-01-2021, 10:52 AM
I blocked him in 2017 or so as it's all so boring. I'm sure I've missed some crafty quote tweet zingers from British comedy writers as a result but I'll survive.

Lewis
09-01-2021, 10:53 AM
That's another issue. What about the ecosystem that lives in his replies? What about their mental health?

Lewis
09-01-2021, 11:00 AM
I mean, the summer protests were decentralized and had a variety of demands, from “down with the US government” to “stop shooting unarmed black people please”. A lot of it was just raw anger from people who’ve seen the same thing happen one too many times. There was no single goal in mind.

Meanwhile the mongs who mobbed the capital literally told reporters that their goal was to “save America” and keep Trump in power. And they had been organized that morning by Trump himself.

It’s not just about symbolism (it would be if they had chosen any other day for it), it’s about elections and peaceful transfer of power. Democracy only works if the losers admit that they’ve lost, otherwise you’re on a road to authoritarianism (left or right).

However decentralised, the goals were taken to be the goals of the umbrella organisation[s] to and through which all of the institutional and financial support flowed (which are mental/revolutionary). Plus muh property/rule of law. They are directly comparable, and you can only avoid it if you diminish one and/or boost the other.

randomlegend
09-01-2021, 12:25 PM
Idk how you're meant to "re-enfranchise" a bunch of racist morons who will actively and vociferously work to make their own lives worse provided it ensures nothing improves for a single person they deem unworthy.

Apart from being a racist moron yourself, ala Trump, obviously.

Shindig
09-01-2021, 01:23 PM
The biggest thing I take away from Trump's presidency is how it's completely changed his brand. I used to see him as a retarded rich guy who built golf courses, talked at dinners and got deals done. As a politician, he's been an agitated, cantankerous shit who'll take everyone down with him.

Lewis
09-01-2021, 01:25 PM
They disenfranchise[d] themselves with their self-destructive behaviour. :gs:

Pepe
09-01-2021, 01:39 PM
Idk how you're meant to "re-enfranchise" a bunch of racist morons who will actively and vociferously work to make their own lives worse provided it ensures nothing improves for a single person they deem unworthy.

Apart from being a racist moron yourself, ala Ibram Kendi, obviously.

Works both ways.

Lewis
09-01-2021, 01:45 PM
Dr Ibram Kendi.

Pepe
09-01-2021, 01:48 PM
Dr Henry Rogers, in fact :harold:

Lewis
09-01-2021, 01:58 PM
I was just reading that. You can't go mixing East and Southern African words for your gimmick name when you've got no connection to either.

randomlegend
09-01-2021, 05:03 PM
Works both ways.

There'll always be mong extremists on both sides. America's problem is the mong racist white people make up a big enough proportion of the population that they can elect their "God Emperor" as president.

Pepe
09-01-2021, 05:11 PM
And the mong racist white people on the other side make up a big enough proportion that they can take over school systems, rip them apart, and get applauded for it. See NY system, San Diego system, UC Berkeley, etc., etc. That shit will have a much larger (negative) effect than anything Trump did.

niko_cee
09-01-2021, 05:11 PM
Well, apparently they can't, actually. @RL

Adamski
09-01-2021, 06:46 PM
Thought this was quite interesting, not sure about the background to the writer etc though.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/american-crises-capitol-assault

SincereTheRebel
09-01-2021, 09:36 PM
Has the Trump been taken out yet?

Giggles
09-01-2021, 09:55 PM
Has the Trump been taken out yet?

Yes. A new lad takes over on the 20th.

Shindig
09-01-2021, 10:17 PM
Might be the first and only time Biden gets called a lad. :D

SincereTheRebel
09-01-2021, 10:57 PM
They have to terminate Trump otherwise he gets to run again correct?

Jimmy Floyd
10-01-2021, 12:10 AM
I'm not sure he'd get the nomination now, they would find some mechanism to block him. He could run as a third party and ensure the Democrat wins, I guess.

Spoonsky
10-01-2021, 05:58 AM
The Patriot Party. :cool:

SincereTheRebel
10-01-2021, 10:57 AM
I want to see trump with a pistol in his hand, waving it around in the presidential office refusing to leave. Chained to the radiator and everything. It seems like he has now gone soft and threw in the towel.

ItalAussie
10-01-2021, 12:16 PM
Apparently (because who really knows), he's sitting in the White House stewing and getting angrier and angrier. I suspect he'll end up trundling off and trying to start his own social media network (which he should call "Trumpet", obviously), but there's time left for one last twist I suppose.

Giggles
10-01-2021, 12:17 PM
What’s all the guff about nukes? Surely multiple people should have to sign off on that, though it’s a mental enough system that it wouldn’t surprise me.

Lewis
10-01-2021, 12:20 PM
He should at least try to get his hands on one of their emergency broadcast systems. Harold would.

ItalAussie
10-01-2021, 12:39 PM
What’s all the guff about nukes? Surely multiple people should have to sign off on that, though it’s a mental enough system that it wouldn’t surprise me.
I agree. Even if he theoretically could give a unilateral order, I don't think he has enough cachet now that nobody would run interference.

The only thing I could see happening now is impeachment. Which could be important, as if it passed the house and the senate, Trump wouldn't be legally allowed to run again.

ItalAussie
10-01-2021, 12:40 PM
He should at least try to get his hands on one of their emergency broadcast systems. Harold would.

"This is the nuclear emergency broadcast system. The lying Democrats stole this election, and we have to fight!!!! My rallies had so many more people! Sad!!!"

Lewis
10-01-2021, 12:43 PM
Sending out the first batch with a blatant alias like 'The Rightful President', and then moving to things like 'Mohammed the Patriot' as they lock him out of various frequencies.

Lewis
10-01-2021, 12:53 PM
It's not entirely clear that he can just launch a nuclear strike for a laugh (or that it would have to be done), but making a big deal of it at this stage does reveal that much of the OUTRAGE surrounding him has been a performative/signalling show. If you are genuinely capable of convincing yourself that he might nuke somebody as a sign-off then you're probably not of sound enough mind yourself to be legislating on the matter. And that's before you get to the whole circumventing the chain of command issue. The sacred chain of command, crucial to the functioning of democracy.

Mellberg
10-01-2021, 03:33 PM
Yeah, I heard all that shit and thought the same. He can't just type in 'Georgia' and then press his big red button and wipe out however many thousand square miles. Someone, somewhere will have an override and go "fuck that, Donald".

All been good entertainment though. Biden has an open goal for being remebered as a bit of an A* prez, simply because he's not Trump. Just needs to calm everyone down and keep the child abuse to a minimum.

Shindig
10-01-2021, 03:36 PM
Depends on which Georgia he nukes. Putin might back him.

Pepe
10-01-2021, 03:39 PM
Biden has an open goal for being remebered as a bit of an A* prez, simply because he's not Trump. Just needs to calm everyone down and keep the child abuse to a minimum.

and not die.

Jimmy Floyd
10-01-2021, 03:41 PM
To be a top, top President he needs to spend the four years scheming to get someone better than Kamala Harris in line to do the following eight, and then stand aside and cruise into the everyone's favourite grandpa spot vacated by John McCain.

Disco
10-01-2021, 03:56 PM
The President doesn't need the consent of Congress to use nuclear weapons, is that still the case or have they closed that particular loophole?

Luca
10-01-2021, 07:46 PM
It's not entirely clear that he can just launch a nuclear strike for a laugh (or that it would have to be done), but making a big deal of it at this stage does reveal that much of the OUTRAGE surrounding him has been a performative/signalling show. If you are genuinely capable of convincing yourself that he might nuke somebody as a sign-off then you're probably not of sound enough mind yourself to be legislating on the matter. And that's before you get to the whole circumventing the chain of command issue. The sacred chain of command, crucial to the functioning of democracy.

Yeah, I agree fully with this. The "BUT HE HAS THE NUCLEAR CODES" is a tired rhetoric. Fox News rolled it out for Obama after he used a selfie-stick in the Oval Office. It's absolutely performative, unless we live in the universe described by Mellin above where he gets a big red button and a crosshair (and even then I reckon he'd need someone's help), and even then. It's quite offensive in its silliness, actually.

Spikey M
10-01-2021, 08:01 PM
I presume it takes more than one person to launch a nuke, even if that person is the President. It must take a whole unit to ready the fucker, tell it where it's going and atleast a couple of people to "press the button". I thought it took keys being turned at the same time in different places.

ItalAussie
11-01-2021, 02:21 AM
Yeah, I agree fully with this. The "BUT HE HAS THE NUCLEAR CODES" is a tired rhetoric. Fox News rolled it out for Obama after he used a selfie-stick in the Oval Office. It's absolutely performative, unless we live in the universe described by Mellin above where he gets a big red button and a crosshair (and even then I reckon he'd need someone's help), and even then. It's quite offensive in its silliness, actually.

They've spent decades building the mystique. This is the natural consequence.

The Democratic Party just want to take him out of the picture for 2024, which is smart. That and, rightly, more than a few of them probably feel that he tried to incite violence against them personally and want to make him pay for that. This is definitely where the anger from the Republican side is coming from. Senators and Congressmen being locked in their offices for 3-5 hours, hearing reports of gunfire, and being told not to open the door for anyone probably wouldn't leave them in a very friendly state of mind. I think we can't ignore the fact that it just got very personal for a lot of people.

Luca
11-01-2021, 03:32 AM
I agree with you, but I think that’s actually the more powerful narrative to be pushing (i.e., demonstrating that the crowd wanted the blood of anyone who doesn’t agree with Trump, Democrat or Republican). The nuclear code stuff just feels like they’re pandering to win the court of public opinion (which, outside of the same MAGA idiots who supported the storming, they largely have - so what’s the point?).

To be honest, if anyone should be crowing the personal violence narrative from the rooftops, it should be Pence. Him being on the fence about impeachment and/or invoking the 25th Amendment, when the crowd was explicitly chanting about his death and Trump’s personal lawyer said he should be put to a firing squad (you what?), boggles the mind.

ItalAussie
11-01-2021, 04:04 AM
All reports suggest that Pence is absolutely furious, but I presume he's trying to walk the delicate line between wanting to lash out and prepping for a 2024 Presidential run.

Obviously a lot can change between then and now, but he's got to be the strongest candidate they have, and he won't want to risk messing that up. It's still crazy that over half the House Republicans voted to throw out the election results. Things aren't normal there.

John Arne
11-01-2021, 04:14 AM
All reports suggest that Pence is absolutely furious, but I presume he's trying to walk the delicate line between wanting to lash out and prepping for a 2024 Presidential run.

Obviously a lot can change between then and now, but he's got to be the strongest candidate they have, and he won't want to risk messing that up. It's still crazy that over half the House Republicans voted to throw out the election results. Things aren't normal there.

I've reminded a few people of this already. Trump is a psychopath, but 138 republicans also voted to block the results. Some claim they did it to avoid be targeted by Trumps Clown Army, but who knows. I think this is more institutional than people think.

John Arne
11-01-2021, 04:16 AM
Obviously a lot can change between then and now, but he's got to be the strongest candidate they have, and he won't want to risk messing that up. It's still crazy that over half the House Republicans voted to throw out the election results. Things aren't normal there.

I've reminded a few people of this already. Trump is a psychopath, but 138 republicans also voted to block the results. Some claim they did it to avoid be targeted by Trumps Clown Army, but who knows. I think this is more institutional than people think.

Shindig
11-01-2021, 09:15 AM
All reports suggest that Pence is absolutely furious, but I presume he's trying to walk the delicate line between wanting to lash out and prepping for a 2024 Presidential run.

Yes, please. But only if he calls his town hall meetings "My two cents' with Mike Pence."

hfswjyr
11-01-2021, 09:32 AM
I presume it takes more than one person to launch a nuke, even if that person is the President. It must take a whole unit to ready the fucker, tell it where it's going and atleast a couple of people to "press the button". I thought it took keys being turned at the same time in different places.

You've clearly learned that from movies!

The whole situation is so combative. Does anyone have any time left to govern and actually do something for the betterment of citizens rather than play the political stabbing game?
It's hard to believe there was ever a time in history when Nixon was pardoned so the country could just move on from it all. "It could go on and on and on, or someone must write the end to it. I have concluded that only I can do that, and if I can, I must." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon

I just can't fathom anyone doing something like that today, the gap is that wide and hatred that strong.

niko_cee
11-01-2021, 02:56 PM
As an extremely casual outside observer politics in the US seems to have been one side trying to thwart/undo the previous doings of the other side for much of my lifetime [to almost the exclusion of everything else - I appreciate this is, to an extent, true in all systems]. Certainly the last 20 years. They became hostages to the margins years ago (mostly the evangelical mob or gun nuts) and their national politics seems to reflect that (even though polling often suggests a plurality of Americans want better healthcare, better gun control and all the things us outsiders think are reasonably normal).

I was having this discussion the other day and came to the conclusion that they need a Tony Blair type figure to [properly] try an win the middle/people from the other side [to the extent that they basically torch a lot of their alleged base] and/or some sort of constitutional 'crisis' to flip standard party divisions on their head somewhat (a la Brexit in the UK). Maybe if Trump's mob start an actual war with their guns then the second amendment could become that issue, but I doubt even full scale conflict between the followers of Trump and the US Army would be enough to shift that particular object. There would always be the argument that this is exactly the sort of thing the second amendment was designed to protect against. :cab:

Disco
11-01-2021, 05:26 PM
The thing that gun nuts never really address is that any sort of armed conflict (muh militia!) between them and the US army would end with them smeared thinly across whichever state they decided to make their stand in. It's what renders that particular bit of their rhetoric completely empty, they would lose hard and (until last week) it seemed obvious that they knew it and would therefore never actually start anything.

Ian
11-01-2021, 05:32 PM
Yeah, I've thought that before.

"ah need mah assault rahfle to protec' mah land from the GOVERNMENT"

Mate they've got tanks and gunships and stuff, you know that right?

Boydy
11-01-2021, 05:54 PM
The US Army famously has had no problems winning against guerilla forces in the past.

Spikey M
11-01-2021, 05:58 PM
Napalm raining down on Sandyhook.

Disco
11-01-2021, 06:08 PM
Is that the school or the golf course? No matter, the USAF will probably hit both.

Jimmy Floyd
11-01-2021, 06:09 PM
With the acumen shown by US law enforcement in the last week (year (decade (century))) I would fancy my chances, were I a modern day Stonewall Jackson.

Shindig
11-01-2021, 06:13 PM
And they have the same constitutional rights as Mr. Achey-brakey-47.

Disco
11-01-2021, 06:15 PM
Granted law enforcement are a shit show but, despite their propensity for dropping bombs on their own side, the 82nd Airborne et al are a different matter. But then I don't know at what stage they would be used in the event of an actual armed rebellion, they might just use the National Guard in which case all bets are off.

Spikey M
11-01-2021, 08:20 PM
1348725841174425601?s=19

It's obviously an admin error, right?

Giggles
11-01-2021, 08:25 PM
You’d imagine so, or someone finishing up today having a lol.

niko_cee
11-01-2021, 08:34 PM
Gone, what was it?

Spikey M
11-01-2021, 08:36 PM
Gone, what was it?

The State Department website says/said Trumps Presidency ends today.

Luca
11-01-2021, 08:37 PM
Gone, what was it?

1348722530224373761

A very fired intern.

Lewis
11-01-2021, 08:52 PM
Insurrectionist.

Queenslander
12-01-2021, 03:48 AM
Our acting PM just said 'All Lives Matter'.

He might as well ask Trump to move in with him...

The Liberals and the Nationals are falling over each other this week. To be fair to them though they are only representing their voters.

Disco
13-01-2021, 09:53 PM
Donnie making history, we should have offered him an account on here.

Ian
13-01-2021, 09:56 PM
Yes we definitely have a shortage of gobby mongs.

Lewis
13-01-2021, 10:13 PM
This (https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2021/01/07/a-truth-reckoning-why-were-holding-those-who-lied-for-trump-accountable/?sh=2a8677565710) made me lol earlier, contrasting the discredited Trump liars with credible ex-Press Secretaries like - *squints* - the guy who did the job in the lead-up to the Iraq War.

Jimmy Floyd
13-01-2021, 10:18 PM
His byline picture is probably worse than anything Trump has done.

Dquincy
14-01-2021, 12:06 AM
This (https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2021/01/07/a-truth-reckoning-why-were-holding-those-who-lied-for-trump-accountable/?sh=2a8677565710) made me lol earlier, contrasting the discredited Trump liars with credible ex-Press Secretaries like - *squints* - the guy who did the job in the lead-up to the Iraq War.

His current Press Secretary would definitely get it.

www.geeksoncoffee.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Kayleigh-McEnany-beautiful-pics.jpeg

Edit : nailed the link.

Queenslander
14-01-2021, 12:21 AM
She looks a tad male to female how's your father.

Don
14-01-2021, 12:27 AM
Without make-up it's a tragedy.

https://www.rev.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Untitled-design-29-scaled.jpg

hfswjyr
14-01-2021, 05:57 AM
I'll admit I've definitely watched a press conference of two now that she's been at the lectern. She's obviously crazy to work for the madman and spout the same rubbish all day, but she's actually a really good public speaker. She's well prepared, quick on her feet and can control the room.

Shindig
14-01-2021, 09:14 AM
And then Don takes the mic and calls them all bastards.

EDIT: Hmmm ... someone's just rang my mobile from a Wilksboro, NC number to say an international crime computer has found me a victim of crime. A golden age of scamming.

Yeldoow
14-01-2021, 11:15 AM
1349515630270099457

:roflol:

Jimmy Floyd
14-01-2021, 12:01 PM
All weirdo takes aside, it did occur to me last night that this basically sets a precedent for the house to impeach any President from the other party if they don't like him.

Spikey M
14-01-2021, 12:43 PM
It's a shambles and I'm here for it. :drool:

ItalAussie
14-01-2021, 12:58 PM
All weirdo takes aside, it did occur to me last night that this basically sets a precedent for the house to impeach any President from the other party if they don't like him.

I think that precedent was set up in the Clinton administration.

Honestly, most of what we're seeing in US politics now sprung from the mind of Newt Gingrich.

Jimmy Floyd
14-01-2021, 12:59 PM
Did the Republicans ever try to / want to impeach Obama when they had the house?

I don't know enough about the caaahnsti-tooshun to know if getting a blowjob under the table is an impeachment-worthy transgression.

Lewis
14-01-2021, 01:13 PM
It will be a giant seethe process of executive orders reversing previous executive orders with the odd impeachment thrown in, and the hundreds of stiffs reduced to doing what they can to keep Afghanistan going. You could probably sustain that under the current system, since it would ultimately work for everyone (or at least the Grown Ups) and the 'progressives' could just sub-contact their domestic agenda out to Facebook and the United Fruit Company, but if they tilt the balance then there won't be much left in it for the really red places and it could all easily fall to bits.

ItalAussie
14-01-2021, 01:36 PM
Did the Republicans ever try to / want to impeach Obama when they had the house?

I don't know enough about the caaahnsti-tooshun to know if getting a blowjob under the table is an impeachment-worthy transgression.

The impeachment was for perjury, or lying to congress, or something of that ilk. One fun side-consequence is that it's basically the last time anyone answered a meaningful question in a political setting with anything other than "I do not recall".

They never impeached Obama, but he kept squeaky clean when all is said and done. If you can't plausibly link them to a crime, then there's no point.

Dquincy
14-01-2021, 02:12 PM
Without make-up it's a tragedy.

https://www.rev.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Untitled-design-29-scaled.jpg

Yeah, that's ruined it.

Spikey M
18-01-2021, 01:54 PM
Huge if true.

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Disco
18-01-2021, 02:01 PM
Will there not be some questions when Biden suddenly gains 50 pounds and can't walk down a ramp? Actually he should lean into this, at the end of his speech pick up a glass of water in the spacker way Trump does and give a big wink to the camera.

Browning
18-01-2021, 03:49 PM
All kicking off again, apparently.

Baz
18-01-2021, 04:07 PM
Joe Biden is a paedophile.

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Spikey M
18-01-2021, 04:12 PM
:sick:

Yevrah
18-01-2021, 04:14 PM
If those clips are all real and none of those kids are related to him (i.e. there's absolutely no reason for that sort of bond), then fucking hell.

Lewis
18-01-2021, 04:25 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zzP0HxQ.png

:lol:

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-01-2021, 04:29 PM
That's super awkward.

Lewis
19-01-2021, 05:34 PM
Correct thread:

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Shitting in the sink on his way out. :cool:

phonics
19-01-2021, 06:07 PM
Going from ‘multiculturalism is evil’ to China’s treatment of the Uighurs is evil within an hour is top stuff.

Spoonsky
19-01-2021, 06:14 PM
Either that or he's secretly signalling the beginning of the REVOLUTION.

https://twitter.com/LaBuenaVida402/status/1351580365354377220

You really can't make it up with these people.

John Arne
20-01-2021, 01:34 AM
What's the spread on number of folk being shot and killed today?

I'm going for 4.

Lewis
20-01-2021, 02:14 AM
There best be some top names in the out-going list of pardons. If it's just some low level scammers he doesn't even know then SHITE.

Sir Andy Mahowry
20-01-2021, 02:25 AM
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He should instantly start harassing Carole Baskin again.

Queenslander
20-01-2021, 04:59 AM
Steve Bannon is a good one to pardon.

Spikey M
20-01-2021, 07:52 AM
1351677388808200196

He should instantly start harassing Carole Baskin again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55723476

When he turns up in his "Monster Ram Truck Limo" with his new 7 ft prison wife there's going to be hell to pay.

Queenslander
20-01-2021, 07:53 AM
Tiger King is a sucker.

Bernanke
20-01-2021, 10:51 AM
As we enter the final day of Donald John Trump's presidency, what is everyone's favorite moment through all of it? Four Seasons Total Landscaping is a recent front runner, but there are many other contenders:

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/davidmack/dumb-trump-moments

Spikey M
20-01-2021, 10:57 AM
It's either the Tiny Desk or trolling Merkel.

John Arne
20-01-2021, 11:09 AM
I love the simplicity of 'Tim Apple' :D