U.S. Presidential Election 2016 (Sponsored by Betty Croker's Hamburger Helper)

[Spikey M]

Camera. Woman. Graph. Last. Which is first.

[Yevrah]

He's genuinely an impossible person to have a discussion with.

[John Arne]

Highlights so far.

12:20
"When I took over we didn't even have a #COVID19 test"

13:30
"Look at these graphs...er.. you can see.... We're lower than the world"

When asked if he reads his daily briefing:
"I read a lot, they say I don't read, I read. I comprehend very well, probably better than anybody you've interviewed in a long time. I spend a lot of time in meetings Go to maybe 1 meeting day, or maybe 2 or 3 a week".

[Disco]

That is a five year olds defence against criticism.

[Ian]

He frequently goes with "I'm actually better at [thing] than most people." He's an embarrassment.

[Spikey M]

Remember when we thought Bush was thick?

[Ian]

They were good times.

He seems quite the sophisticate when you compare him to this unstoppable shambles they now have.

[phonics]

He’s responsible for a 100k dead and still has a lower kill rate than Bush.

They’re both despicable.

[Spikey M]

He'll have 4 more years to catch up.

[Giggles]

There’s no way he doesn’t start something big with some country in the next term. He might even do it before it the antagonistic fuck.

[Lewis]

He’s responsible for a 100k dead and still has a lower kill rate than Bush.

They’re both despicable.

The professional opinion-havers pining for the people who fucked everything (everything) up whilst, more often than not, also wondering where all this 'populism' came from is definitely the best trend of the past few years. Rehabilitating George W. early doors should probably have set some alarms off.

[Spoonsky]

The professional opinion-havers pining for the people who fucked everything (everything) up whilst, more often than not, also wondering where all this 'populism' came from is definitely the best trend of the past few years. Rehabilitating George W. early doors should probably have set some alarms off.

Agree with you for once. It drives me nuts. As though one embarrassing tweet is worse than a pile of dead Iraqis.

[Spikey M]

For clarity, because it appears necessary for some reason, saying Bush was less thick than Trump is not an endorsement.

[Spoonsky]

Not you Spikey, it's my parents and people their age.

[Spikey M]

Phew.

[niko_cee]

On the subject of old Dubya I quite enjoyed the Saddam episode of that Once Upon a Time in Iraq thing last night.

I liked the idea of him sitting in the interrogation wherever, hearing all the explosions and everything going to shit outside and being all smug about it. Your leaders have lied to you and this will end badly. Shithead or not he had a point.

[John Arne]

Can you embed Facebook videos??

Trump v Trump

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10160345678120031&id=785460030

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:face:

[Dquincy]

To be fair, he doesn't say he's referring to the Spanish flu.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

To be fair, there was no pandemic in 1917. It's also clear based on the numbers he's used (although he's used the high estimates).

[Dquincy]

Hey! Stop gaslighting him!

I think that's what that phrase means. Not really sure with all these new saying.

[Queenslander]

They chose a Cop. Lol

[Lewis]

Is the fact that she has publicly called him a racist nonce likely to become a campaign issue?

[Queenslander]

I dont think words matter anymore.

[Manc]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/12/mark-grenon-archbishop-florida-church-selling-bleach-miracle-cure-arrested-son

[Pepe]

Is the fact that she has publicly called him a racist nonce likely to become a campaign issue?

Nah, she has changed her mind and now he is MLK reincarnated.

[Queenslander]

Fucking hell this is in Rupert Murdochs 'The Australian' today.

https://i.ibb.co/KXmVbJq/FB-IMG-1597446581987.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
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[Lewis]

James Murdoch ringing all his trendy mates to tell them how appalled he is.

'The what?'
'The Australian. It's one of his... He's originally from Australia.'

[Queenslander]

:lol:

[Kikó]

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This is just crazy end to end.

[Dquincy]

The media can be such pricks at times. Spinning this into a bullshit story. Of course Melania rejected his hand, she was trying to keep her skirt from flapping up.

Did Melania reject Donald's hand?

https://news.sky.com/video/share-12050826

[Lewis]

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He probably paid for that himself. 4D Chess is back baby.

[Pepe]

Drain the swamp!

[Shindig]

Kellyanne Conway's quit. Says she wants to spend more time with Trump's family.

[Disco]

Going to get herself arrested like the rest of his team?

[Lewis]

This Wisconsin shooting looks like a serious Darwin Award attempt, and yet they're still booting off.

[Don]

Shooting him 7 times in the back from point-blank range whilst you cling on to his clothing does seem excessive :D

[Disco]

Have the Republicans really come out and said they have no policies for the next term other than disagreeing with Joe Biden?

That seems a strange move for an incumbent party.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I've noticed it's getting into 'UK commentators pretend to understand US politics' season, which comes around every four years.

The Cheese Belt could be key.

[bruhnaldo]

Have the Republicans really come out and said they have no policies for the next term other than disagreeing with Joe Biden?

That seems a strange move for an incumbent party.

I wonder if it'll fail them like it did the Dem's when their entire platform was "orange mad bad bro lol?"... though the upgraded platform of "orange man BAD bro tf?" isn't super inspiring.

[Disco]

Here's the bit that got me, they basically say they won't have a party platform for the upcoming election but:



The Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.


Kind of shitting on the Republic a little there chaps. And yes, I realise the real reason is because any policy plan they put forward will be contradicted by Trump before the ink is even dry but it still seems a pretty mad thing to have come out with.

[Disco]

I've noticed it's getting into 'UK commentators pretend to understand US politics' season, which comes around every four years.

The Cheese Belt could be key.

Is Wisconsin the cheese one?

[Shindig]

I feel like Biden saying he'd shut the country down if he needed to and the mandatory masks might have lost him the election before it's even started.

EDIT: Man, that shooting footage is dumb.

[bruhnaldo]

I'm pretty sure this'll be like Bush's second go round where everyone talks openly about how Bush is awful but then somehow he wins the electorate anyways.

[Spoonsky]

You voting bruh?

[Dquincy]

This Wisconsin shooting looks like a serious Darwin Award attempt, and yet they're still booting off.

Such an odd video. They were likely concerned the perp was going for a gun in his car, but why not try wrestling him to the ground first rather than shoot him 7 times?

[Shindig]

And I presume the policemen were telling him to stop at every step. He just saunters over to his car.

[Spikey M]

The amount of people saying 'Well, he should have listened!' Is mental. Yes, he should have, but there are quite a few things you can do to force compliance before going Defcon 7 shots in the back.

[Disco]

They shoot him because it's harder to train your police force properly so they essentially get given a gun and told to shoot people they don't like. There's zero consequences too, so it is any wonder they gun down hundreds of people a year.

[niko_cee]

The amount of people saying 'Well, he should have listened!' Is mental. Yes, he should have, but there are quite a few things you can do to force compliance before going Defcon 7 shots in the back.

This is true but they have a shoot first policy which surely everyone in existence is now aware of. Regardless of the morals/merits of that, if an armed US Police Officer tells you to do something, unless you're a complete moron or are after some suicide by cop, then you do it. This has always been the case. The Protect and Serve brigade have always been intimidating to anyone with half a brain.

[Spikey M]

This is true but they have a shoot first policy which surely everyone in existence is now aware of. Regardless of the morals/merits of that, if an armed US Police Officer tells you to do something, unless you're a complete moron or are after some suicide by cop, then you do it. This has always been the case. The Protect and Serve brigade have always been intimidating to anyone with half a brain.

Agreed on all points.

[Disco]

The drug addled and mentally ill not famed for their decision making and rationality though which rather complicates that approach.

[Shindig]

And the American people are shit at doing what they're told.

[Spikey M]

The drug addled and mentally ill not famed for their decision making and rationality though which rather complicates that approach.

It's all part of their Team America ethos. Maximum force at maximum speed for maximal impact. There's no time to worry about whether Tyrone is Evil / mentally ill / off his face. FUCK YEAH.

[Yevrah]

This might sound harsh, but it's all so unutterably boring. Things like this happen, the wider world is outraged for a period of time, we all then go back to watching Netflix and the cycle repeats.

As fucked up as it is, it is what it is and nothing is ever going to change it, there are simply far too many Americans who're absolutely fine with guns and everything that goes with that, for it to.

[Spikey M]

You're not wrong. I can't remember who said it first, but when Sandy Hook wasn't enough to prompt change, nothing ever will be.

[Disco]

Yes, at this point you have to assume this is the way Americans want their country, although I suppose their argument would be that their system is not one conducive to changing anything in that regard (especially when there are large corporate interests at stake). Lol at their rapacious society and political system I guess.

[Raoul Duke]

The drug addled and mentally ill not famed for their decision making and rationality though which rather complicates that approach.

Don't forget the people who are asleep too. Absolute cesspit of a country.

[bruhnaldo]

Sigh.

[phonics]

Seems like the guy in charge of the coppers who triple double tapped that guy in the back is a really nice guy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgVsq1XWoAAvbXy.jpg

[Don]

He sounds like a visionary 2020 melts aren't ready for.

[bruhnaldo]

Ya'll see the story about this 17yo kid who came from like a hundred miles away with a gun to "help the cops / back the blue" whatever and got ran up on with a skateboard so he killed two people ? lol

[bruhnaldo]

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the end of the video where he's seemingly casually walking toward police picks up here:

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Ya know, no biggie. Just shot a guy lemme throw up some hand signs at you.

[Don]

He's listened to police and obeyed them. He has been charged with murder. Fuck outta here with the outrage.

[Lewis]

He sounds like a visionary 2020 melts aren't ready for.

Jacob Blake would be walking round one of those warehouses had people listed.

[bruhnaldo]

Fuck outta here with the outrage.

Who are you telling exactly?

[bruhnaldo]

Cause I just am kinda sad we got 17 year olds walking around with AR-15's and the police are thanking them for being there instead of telling them to go the fuck home before getting themselves in such a situation two people died and now he's ruined his entire life.

[Lewis]

'When we said legitimise politicised street violence with cover from the authorities we only meant...'

[Lewis]

It seems a bit daft for the left to want to establish the principle of street violence being alright if the victim deserved it because reasons. Let's follow that logic, and let's remember which side has all the guns.

This guy. :lewis:

[bruhnaldo]

https://media1.giphy.com/media/3oz8xZvvOZRmKay4xy/200.gif

[Shindig]

Cause I just am kinda sad we got 17 year olds walking around with AR-15's and the police are thanking them for being there instead of telling them to go the fuck home before getting themselves in such a situation two people died and now he's ruined his entire life.

The last thing I want to do with a crazed rifle kid is to upset them.

[Pepe]

This country is the gift that keeps on giving.

Has anyone been following the lolfest in Portland? How can absolutely everyone be so fucking deranged.

[Lewis]

I left a failing state and all I got was this lousy failing state.

[Pepe]

If it wasn't for the lol salary they give me to do fuck all, I'd be back in a heartbeat.

[bruhnaldo]

I seen a video yesterday of some supposed CJNG dude cutting out a piece of the heart of one of their rivals and eating it (https://twitter.com/ElSobrinoJr/status/1297249240763293696?s=20) right in front of him as his lungs and guts basically kept pumping and expanding out of the very "surgical" incision in the man's chest and stomach so shiiiit idk fam.

[bruhnaldo]

Ironically though exactly what we need in this country are CJNG types to police the police but that's another discussion.

[Shindig]

Man, that takes me back to some ISIS internet.

[bruhnaldo]

Yea the internet from like 2001-2004 came rushing back quickly to say the least.

[niko_cee]

11-14 surely?

There barely was internet in 2001.

[bruhnaldo]

Nah this was Iraqi War / Al Qaeda shit, it was def about 2002 cause I remember my cousin's boyfriend (now husband) was the one to show me when they came to Florida on vacation and that was the year before I went into high school.

[Shindig]

Oh, there was plenty. It was all weird and new and dark. Everything from, "Here is my geocities page. I like bikes and anime." to "Welcome to rotten.com. Here's Tupac's corpse."

[bruhnaldo]

Dude exactly. I always wonder if my generation is all weird because we were all given the internet like it was the Encyclopedia Britannica in the early 2000s when we were hitting puberty and perhaps our parents just kinda let us at it so long as we "don't give strangers personal information!"

[bruhnaldo]

Remember the fuckin one with the hammer guy? Sergei wasn't it? Hell nah.

[Giggles]

Earliest I remember is around 1994/5 so it was easily a thing in 2001.

I also remember my set of World Book encyclopedia. They got me through university.

[Shindig]

The internet landrush was so good. Every day a new ISP disc was through your door. And we got our memes from YTMND.

[bruhnaldo]

https://joecartoon.com/games/play/65/Frog_in_a_Blender

IYKYK

[randomlegend]

I seen a video yesterday of some supposed CJNG dude cutting out a piece of the heart of one of their rivals and eating it (https://twitter.com/ElSobrinoJr/status/1297249240763293696?s=20) right in front of him as his lungs and guts basically kept pumping and expanding out of the very "surgical" incision in the man's chest and stomach so shiiiit idk fam.

Man got no ribs or what?

[niko_cee]

Yeah, of course it was a thing, I was flaming chatrooms in the mid-90s like a hero, the dotcom boom was around 2000 wasn't it?

It's just that in the date range, broadband barely existed in 2001, and the Iraq war was 2003 wasn't it? I guess quite a lot changed in those years in terms of it going from something some people looked at every once in a while to something that was used daily (and now in 6 minute units).

[Giggles]

Was Iraq not around 1990?

[niko_cee]

Alright Stormin' Norman.

I believe for the purposes of disambiguation that was The Gulf War.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Broadband might not have been knocking around then but I think the internet was still pretty popular in that era.

I got my first PC in 98 and was hammering Limewire a few years later on dial-up.

[Giggles]

Alright Stormin' Norman.

I believe for the purposes of disambiguation that was The Gulf War.

Indeed it was. Kuwait. I had forgot about the second one.

[Giggles]

Broadband might not have been knocking around then but I think the internet was still pretty popular in that era.

I got my first PC in 98 and was hammering Limewire a few years later on dial-up.

I'd say that's not all you were hammering.

[bruhnaldo]

It's just that in the date range, broadband barely existed in 2001, and the Iraq war was 2003 wasn't it?


Yea the internet from like 2001-2004 came rushing back quickly to say the least.

My man what are we doing here exactly?

[bruhnaldo]

I know you all think of the USA as a 3rd world country but I promise we were able to download those faces of death videos like an hour at a time in the early 2000s lol

[niko_cee]

I would have always said Limewire was a later p2p platform but wiki suggests it dates from 2000, which puts it almost on a par with Napster.

[bruhnaldo]

Was kaZaa before limewire or was it after?

[niko_cee]

My man what are we doing here exactly?

What I was saying was that I looked at those range of dates and thought about 2001 more than 2004, and quite lot happened in between those dates in terms of ubiquity of access to the internet, speed of the internet, stuff on the internet, and conflict in the middle east. By 2004 facebook was a thing, just, although not many would have known about it (me included).

2001 was all Pamela Anderson sex tape and other tragic grainy dial-up shit (actually that was more a '99 thing maybe).

In short, nothing to see here, move along.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0

[Giggles]

MySpace. When was that? I think I was working then.

[Dquincy]

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the end of the video where he's seemingly casually walking toward police picks up here:

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Ya know, no biggie. Just shot a guy lemme throw up some hand signs at you.

Need some LAW & ORDER.

[niko_cee]

2005-2008 apparently.

friendsreunited.com

:lol:

[bruhnaldo]

I remember when facebook started letting high schoolers on because "AYE BRO FACEBOOK ISN'T BLOCKED AT SCHOOL LIKE MYSPACE"

When status updates were all in 3rd person.

bruhnaldo is happy that it's finally Friday!

[Giggles]

2005-2008 apparently.

friendsreunited.com

:lol:

That might be the one I'm thinking of.

[Giggles]

I remember when facebook started letting high schoolers on because "AYE BRO FACEBOOK ISN'T BLOCKED AT SCHOOL LIKE MYSPACE"

When status updates were all in 3rd person.

bruhnaldo is happy that it's finally Friday!

When there were status updates at all.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was kaZaa before limewire or was it after?

Came in towards the end of Limewire.

[Pepe]

I remember downloading a clip of Jenna Jameson banging some other woman on a toilet. That shit took like twenty hours. Worth it. :cool:

[Lofty]

15 minutes for a song, 2 hours for a gif of barely decipherable porn.

[Shindig]

All at 25 pence a minute.

[niko_cee]

Used to be able to plug in anywhere though, so if you had unlimited dial-up, you could use any landline. I remember being outraged when all that tethering shit came in (probably in about 2001?).

There were obviously hardware limitations.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

15 minutes for a song, 2 hours for a gif of barely decipherable porn.

And so many Limewire films actually being porn.

[bruhnaldo]

Trying to get the pr0ns off of limewire and stuff MAN those were some days.

I remember trying to watch like the halfway finished seed file to try and tell if it was any good.

Spent most of my early days looking for like Britney+Christina fakes for some reason tho lol

[Shindig]

Ooh, those napster tricksters posing 30 second samples as full songs.

[phonics]

Not to ruin the nostalgia but the NBA players have gone on strike at the lack of action taken against the officer.

[Don]

My dad's response at the graphic appearing under the scores on BT for the CL final made me so proud "Black lives matter? Why? Is that not finished yet?"

I thought we may have seen the end of it in the prem but I guess this means the cretins continue to shove it in our face.

[Lewis]

It presumably stops once the crowds get back in.

[Bob Sacamano]

Bitch ass black boys

[Don]

What a post :D

[Queenslander]

Cumtown style that is...

Straight out of Nick Mullens riff book.

[Lewis]

That vigilante lad killed a nonce (a bald, manlet nonce) and a woman beater. What are the odds?

[Don]

You're gonna need to source that shit cause I'm getting fake news vibes as this is only thing I can see.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago.cbslocal.com/2020/08/26/kenosha-shooting-kyle-rittenhouse-arrested-antioch-fugitive/amp/

[Lewis]

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The bloke who got his elbow blown out is merely a petty criminal.

[Don]

INJECT IT INTO ME :drool:

[Lewis]

Jacob Blake is a woman-beating sex offender as well. The Nonce Riots.

[Kikó]

Andy Ngo seems quite objective.

[phonics]

Anyone who reads Andy Ngo and takes it at face value is a moron.

[Lewis]

Which bit of what I posted is wrong?

[Don]

They're down on one knee and on the ropes. Their corner needs to throw the towel in.

[phonics]

Hey if 'shooting domestic abusers in the head' becomes policy. 4 in 10 cops will be dead so maybe everyone gets what they want.

[randomlegend]

Chasing down someone armed with an automatic weapon and boshing them with a skateboard is pretty baller

[Pepe]

So is doing it to your wife. /Lewis

[Lewis]

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If you go through the thread, the little bald nonce appears to literally run right into a bullet. If that timeline is accurate - and let's not take a dodgy news source known for posting hysterical shite at face value - then he moonwalks out of the court.

[phonics]

Didn't he cross state lines with an illegal firearm?

[Lewis]

Sorry yeah. Ten dollar fine for that, maybe billed for a covid test at the police station as well.

[niko_cee]

Maybe they'll get him for tax evasion, or wire fraud.

I have no idea about the first one, but that video of him falling and shooting at people around him, one of whom is armed, as other gunfire is heard, looks like something you could definitely get away with in America in terms of self-defence, probably anywhere. Particularly if they have one of those Zimmerman laws.

[Lofty]

Can you stand your ground by taking your ground 100 miles to the conflict?

[Lewis]

https://www.wispolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Kenosha-Police-Association-Releases-Vital-Details-on-Jacob-Blake-Shooting-August-28-2020-PS.pdf

lol at burning your town down for that silly cunt. :o

[Dquincy]

A bit more alleged information on Jacob Blake shooting.

A black man shot seven times in the back by US police had a knife and fought with officers beforehand, putting one in a headlock and shrugging off two Taser attempts, it is claimed.

https://news.sky.com/story/jacob-blake-had-knife-and-put-officer-in-headlock-before-shooting-claims-police-union-12059179

[phonics]

Lewis out in the streets.

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[Don]

https://www.wispolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Kenosha-Police-Association-Releases-Vital-Details-on-Jacob-Blake-Shooting-August-28-2020-PS.pdf

lol at burning your town down for that silly cunt. :o

Glorious :D

[Lewis]

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:lol:

[bruhnaldo]

Trump is gonna win, too.

[Giggles]

Cert.

[phonics]

lol fuck off the mans lost it.

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[Kikó]

The bogeyman is going to get you! VOTE TRUMP!

[Shindig]

"I'm not the Illuminati, he is!"

[Spikey M]

He is going to win again. These protests or 'riots' are a gift for him. 50+ White America - the people that actually vote - are BlueLivesMatter.

[Disco]

His covid bungling will probably do for him, even if you factor in a huge margin of error the polls give it to Biden. The shame for yanks is that it's this close.

[Lewis]

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It's going to be round-the-clock gold as we approach the vote.

[randomlegend]

Now they are trying to say that your favorite President, me

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:

[Shindig]

There's still a chance covid could bop him. Every four months.

[Lofty]

The best bit is Trump using footage of America now and saying 'this is what will happen if Biden gets in!' :D

[Ian]

That clip of America's racist granddad banging on about cans of soup as if they're akin to WMDs is quite something.

[Lewis]

It's going to be round-the-clock gold as we approach the vote.

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'Joe Hiden' is pretty good, but them emojis. :cool:

[phonics]

Giving out :cool: to Dan Scaving posts?

Stop being a mark.

[Shindig]

The CDC are planning a rollout of the Covid vaccine by November.

[phonics]

No they’re not.

They’re saying hospitals have to prepare to distribute a vaccine even though it won’t be there. It’s a Trump election thing.

[phonics]

There’s an article out today about Trump complaining to people that Maggie Haberman keeps saying he has Parkinson’s which she’s never done so that pretty much confirms he’s got Parkinson’s.

[phonics]

I know America loves a bit of revisionism but I've just seen Paul Krugman claim that America took 9/11 'quite calmly' and didn't 'fly off the handle into anti-muslim bigotry'.

How are these people still employed?

[Lewis]

He is a solid case for 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' being real. He is obviously seriously intelligent, and yet he seems to produce some of the shittest content out there, which I don't recall him always having done.

On a related media idiots note, Trump saying (thinking out loud) that the generals/arms companies love perpetual warfare being reported as AN ATTACK ON THE MILITARY made me lol. Not only because it obviously isn't, and that he was right, but it assumes that what passes for his base conflate the two as stupidly as they do.

[Raoul Duke]

It's one of those times when him brain-farting out everything that comes into his head means he accidentally says the truth, like a dementia-addled speaking clock

[Lewis]

I would watch all four hours of a presidential debate moderated by Joe Rogan.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsrO9-D5c5U

Yeah, dead trees do dry out and become volatile. Austria's summer is not as hot as California's, though. And that last bit is ..... odd. Great tie, Donald.

[Kikó]

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Criminality and dehumanisation is rampant. Dangerous times.

[Spikey M]

What the absolute fuck? That can't be legit, surely? Jesus.

[Kikó]

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VICE story in here.

[John Arne]

This sounds bonkers, even for the US. 50 days to an election, I await some decent evidence.

[Ian]

It's horrendous if it's true but I can't pretend it surprises me. It's not like them locking up and doing unspeakable things to foreigners is new information.

[mugbull]

Seems like it's being done by a private prison company who are housing these people, which is honestly no surprise given the absolutely ridiculously cruel things that happen in for-profit prisons in the US.

[Lewis]

These Israeli doings are pretty serious, although you can see why everyone has an interest in pretending otherwise. And not just the media whoppers. Trump showing up forty years of 'realist' foreign policy nonces by being an actual realist - treating it all like a property deal because he's an idiot - is seriously lol to me. He probably asked why they bother listening to the Palestinians, called them losers, and when nobody could explain why it all just worked itself out somehow.

[phonics]

This is disgusting and terrifying.

https://i.imgur.com/PQSgIyc.png

[Bernanke]

Gotta stop those anchor babies somehow

[Boydy]

Ruth Bader Ginsberg's dead. Will Trump have time to replace her before the election?

[Lewis]

My friend has had a theory for a while now that she died ages ago but they were keeping it hidden until the Democrats were in a position to replace her. This must mean the postal votes are looking promising.

[Bernanke]

Ruth Bader Ginsberg's dead. Will Trump have time to replace her before the election?

Easily. Filibuster was nuked for Trumps first nomination, but it would've definitely been for this regardless.

It's actually insane how big an anchor this will tie around the country's neck compared to if the old bat just managed to last a few more months. Trump will have nominated three justices in his first term lol.

[phonics]

Ginsburg died.

America is fucked.

[Bernanke]

I doubt they'll nominate anyone before the election though. Hold it up as a way to drive conservative turn-out, and then regardless if they win or lose just jam one through during the lame duck period.

[Lewis]

And if he can't replace her in time, all of those 'Republican Voters Against Trump' suddenly start seeing their arse if the election means something again.

[Lewis]

I would like to state that I posted that before his post appeared, so my use of 'seeing their arse' is entirely unintentional.

[Giggles]

I'm surprised to see loads of regular people posting condolences and RIP's about her on social media like they would if it was a singer or an actor. I honestly never even heard her name before today. Was she famous for something else too?

[niko_cee]

No.

It'll be the same sort of people who lionised Lady Hale (great as she may be) in the wake of her becoming more publicly known.

[phonics]

It’s in no way even slightly equivalent. Courts affect politics in a way they don’t in the UK because of their role in interpreting the constitution.

As someone who was supposed to be on ‘my side’ She sucks and her refusal to resign despite having 8 types of cancer is a perfect encapsulation of how incompetent the Democratic Party is.

For anyone interested I reccomend listening to Five Four, which is a podcast that breaks down why the supreme court is a disgusting institution.

[niko_cee]

I'm not saying the positions are in any way similar (other than perhaps in their essence as the top judge) you cretinous fanny, just that people virtue signalling the passing of someone they'd likely barely heard of during her long tenure is equivalent to the people who started wearing massive brooches in solidarity with Lady Hale when that was going on. Oh look how abreast of things I am!

They can do what the fuck they want with their constitution as far as I care. It's their [stupid] country and their [stupid] system.

[phonics]

Are you talking about English people or Americans?

I presumed Giggles was talking about Americans because of his sports interests. Any American interested in politics post Bush v Gore will be aware of her. Yaaas queening her despite Sotomayor being 10x the justice Ginsburg was/is idiotic.

It's very funny watching all these white women get mad that people are calling RBG out because 'she represented us'. Only hired one black clerk in 27 years, strange that.

[Giggles]

No, Irish people. People that I've never heard mention US politics any further than "yer man trump is some dickhead". Very odd.

[mugbull]

Ginsburg was great

[Pepe]

I'm surprised to see loads of regular people posting condolences and RIP's about her on social media like they would if it was a singer or an actor. I honestly never even heard her name before today. Was she famous for something else too?

Wasn't there a movie about her a year or two ago?

[Lewis]

The personality cult around her is a bit weird, and also a bit lol today given that it was in part down to her refusal to retire when it was safe[r] to do so. Jewish privilege that.

[phonics]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiPCF-2WkAc6Dz8.jpg

https://soundcloud.com/alabpodcast/series-one-lawyer-brain-part-1-be-like-brett

This is also fun.

[Spoonsky]

She was a huge icon on one side of the American culture wars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biIRlcQqmOc

[Lofty]

Any bookies offering markets on the next SCOTUS appointment? It's going to be crazy Amy.

[John Arne]

Why RBG just retire during the Obama presidency? She was already in her fucking 80's.

[Lewis]

I work with/around a few seriously past-it people, and the feeling is that once they get to a certain age they either think that retirement is a death sentence, or (possibly to avoid retiring) convince themselves that only they know how to do it properly, when in reality they aren't because they're still doing it how they were ten sets of rule changes ago and nobody can tell them otherwise.

[Lofty]

The politicisation of the appointments means they should have term limits so they don't have to worry about when they retire, it is just already set.

[Lewis]

They would still be appointed by whoever happens to be in charge.

[niko_cee]

I'm not sure about term limits as such, as if someone is a stand-out jurist or whatever you want to call them, and can still do the job, then that experience shouldn't just be binned due to age/expiration of a term. You do sort of want the best of the best doing the job, but then, you have the way they get appointed and nowadays it doesn't feel like you're getting that in the first place. Maybe they should sit for fixed terms (of say 10 years) and be re-appointable? Of course, it should probably be apolitical but good luck with that.

[Lofty]

They are supposed to be apolitical and usually arent appointed until they're 50, so a 20 year term limit should be fine realistically. Supposedly some of the other ancient ones had wanted to retire at points but felt unable to.

[phonics]

They have never and never will be apolitical.

I believe the phrase ‘a stitch in time saves nine’ is literally about the Supreme Court backing FDR because he said he’d make them irrelevant by adding Justices if they didn’t.

[Lewis]

[Amy Coney] Barrett has some experience of the storm. She was on Trump's list of possible nominees in 2018, when he was considering who would replace Anthony Kennedy, a justice who retired. But the president had other plans for Barrett. "I'm saving her for Ginsburg," Trump said, according to an Axios report last year.

:lol:

[Pepe]

Is that the one they are touting as the favorite? If so, she looks like a good choice.

Tronald with the 4d chess there. :cool:

[Lofty]

Apparently at a graduating speech of law students she said that the only reason someone should study law is to 'serve the kingdom of god' so good luck with your sinner lifestyles.

[phonics]

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[Pepe]

The "she should have retired before" crowd are a bunch of fucking morons.

[John]

I believe the phrase ‘a stitch in time saves nine’ is literally about the Supreme Court backing FDR because he said he’d make them irrelevant by adding Justices if they didn’t.

:lol:

[Disco]

How about not having a shit system instead of bitching about people who don't try and game it.

[Pepe]

The system is ok.

[Lewis]

Their original federal system (or something a lot closer to it than what it has become) would solve almost all of their problems, but it seems like one of those things that is too obvious to be obvious, as if it wasn't conceived by some of the cleverest people in the then world.

[Kikó]

:lol:

It was actually about MJ being gubbed I heard.

[Pepe]

Their original federal system (or something a lot closer to it than what it has become) would solve almost all of their problems, but it seems like one of those things that is too obvious to be obvious, as if it wasn't conceived by some of the cleverest people in the then world.

Yeah, but did they properly represent the demographics of the country? That's what I thought.

[mugbull]

The original Federal system was bound to go to shit the moment they started raking in more territory and adding states

[John Arne]

https://gyazo.com/83f941010bcebcb8382fdee91cae0fbd.jpeg

[Jimmy Floyd]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54257450

What world are these clowns living in? Are they under the impression that their London Olympics-era coalition of centrist corporate CHANGEsters is still taken seriously?

[Shindig]

This week's poorly planned assassination attempt. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54255727)

[Boydy]

I see they've got Trump's tax returns.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/424/149/2bc.jpg

[Jimmy Floyd]

For once, a truly evergreen tweet.

[Disco]

Didn't he claim to pay so little tax because he was 'smart' while at the same time claiming to be a terribly successful businessman? So either his smartness was falsifying a load of stuff to dodge a tax bill or he's losing money hand over fist which rather counts against the second bit.

Not sure why I'm trying to apply logic to it because having lied about everything ever, one more thing hardly seems to matter.

[Boydy]

Off tomorrow so I'm staying up to watch this in the hope that one of them shits themselves live on stage.

[Pepe]

I'm stopping right now, this is tragic.

[Ian]

Well that sounds like it was an intelligent, dignified debate.

[Spikey M]

Yeah, but this is no fun when our own country is too much of a shambles to mock them.

[Ian]

Sure you can so long as you're mocking both.

Priti Patel wanting to send forins to an island in the South Atlantic is a bit "Are we the baddies?" for example.

[Queenslander]

Tony Abbott wants to get a black refugee island going yeah?

He isnt even our worst Facist.

[Jimmy Floyd]

We are 100% the baddies, and always have been from the moment Henry VIII left the Catholic Church. The original Brexit.

[-james-]

What's all the Biden has dementia stuff? He sounds fine.

[John Arne]

That was quite possibly the most embarrassing display of politics in the history of debates. Even the moderator was a complete shitshow.

[Ian]

Trump giving violent racists the "wait for my signal" stuff was good.

[mugbull]

Biden ain't winning this election, no sir

[Jimmy Floyd]

I didn't see the debate but I'm going to go on twitter in case any British comedy writers (who were asleep at the time) have an opinion on it.

[Yevrah]

I had the misfortune to watch it. Dreadful, dreadful stuff.

[Lewis]

I spent an afternoon at work scouting Scottish locations for a migrant camp/prison a few weeks ago, and I settled on Rum.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I spent an afternoon at work scouting Scottish locations for a migrant camp/prison a few weeks ago, and I settled on Rum.

Colonsay is my pick. Slight Iwo Jima vibes out there.

[Yevrah]

Are there any articles anywhere from people who are better than Biden that describe how they'd take Trump on in a debate?

There must be a strategy that works, but I can't for the life of me think what it is.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Simple messaging wins. I would choose one word (probably 'Corrupt') and just say it 5,000 times.

[mugbull]

If you put some youthful energy into Joe Biden and got rid of his 18th century anachronisms, you could get somewhere. Unfortunately al the loud assholes self-select into the Republican party and the Dems are left with betas.

AOC vs Trump would be a good watch actually

[Pepe]

Trump also donned the Republican primary last time around, even with the likes of Ted Cruz around.

[Pepe]

Btw, kudos to Tronnie for managing to shoehorn a Pocahontas reference in there. He just won't leave her alone. :D

[Lewis]

I think to beat him you would need to be able to EXPOSE all of his bullshit, but do so in such a way where you didn't just come across as the sort of patronising, whinging cunt who in an other life would be telling you you wouldn't be eating that if you knew what was in it. This was where 'Hillary' fell down, and where ninety-five per cent of other [supposedly] intelligent left-wing women suffer (see: every woman in the Labour Party). Barack Hussein Obama would have lolled him off the stage with such an approach, as 'Sleepy Joe' himself might have done thirty years ago, but 'AOC' has actual shit for brains and would start bealing at the first bit of trolling.

[Boydy]

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Good summary thread here.

[Pepe]

You need someone with swagger, basically, like Cory Booker or Bernie.

AOC would just act offended all the time, which is an insta-loss.

[Pepe]

1311135847811624960

Good summary thread here.


As I said earlier, Hillary Clinton would have beat either of them hands down.

Ermm...

[phonics]

Why are people talking about it like he won?

He sounded like a fucking weirdo shouting conspiracies that he read in emails where the subject line begins with RE:RE:RE:FWD:RE:FWD:FWD:FWD and rounded it off by saluting the proud boys.

[Lewis]

Gently mouthing 'TITS' and making subtle gestures to throw her off her stride.

[Pepe]

There is no "winning" in a debate. Not that we could call that a debate.

[Pepe]

Gently mouthing 'TITS' and making subtle gestures to throw her off her stride.

:D

[mugbull]

Obama would have "lost" this debate, he was always meek because he was up against a couple of morally decent Republicans who were equally traditional (McCain, Romney, and Obama are probably the most good-natured candidates we've had since 2000). AOC would be loud and obnoxious and energetic. Proud Boy virgins like Lewis would call her shit for brains no matter what, but in terms of taking the stage to Trump she'd do a better job of not getting steamrolled than anyone I can think of

[Spikey M]

Why are people talking about it like he won?

He sounded like a fucking weirdo shouting conspiracies that he read in emails where the subject line begins with RE:RE:RE:FWD:RE:FWD:FWD:FWD and rounded it off by saluting the proud boys.

Then he probably did win.

[Lewis]

The woman is thick as fuck lad. If she wasn't such a sort nobody would give her the time of day.

[mugbull]

The woman is thick as fuck lad. If she wasn't such a sort nobody would give her the time of day.

The thickest people in politics are the ones who peddle the 'market corrects itself' manure, so she's already beaten the median.

[phonics]

Hence why Lewis thinks she’s thick. Dunning Kruger in action.

[Lewis]

Dunning-Kruger doesn't mean that. Hence why I think you're thick. Commonly misunderstood meaning of Dunning Kruger in action.