Healthy lifestyle vs Bad choices

[TG09]

Over the last few months my new wife and I have been put on to watch a few films/documentary's about bad food/choices.

One film particularly caught our eyes was That Sugar Film (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3892434/combined).

One Australian man took it upon himself to show the affects of sugar.

Also another film was called Fat, Sick and nearly dead (http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/) he did another one called Fat, Sick and nearly dead 2.

This show is about an overweight man who drove around the US drinking only health juices he makes is the back of his car.

Both films show how bad food choices and the health affects it can have on you in a short time.

This year wife and I have decided to cut out additional sugar, no fizzy drinks and buy food with hardly any sugar in it. Non of this low fat crap, which replaces sugar with other crap.

Are you lot going to make any changes this year to get fitter and healthier? What are you thoughts on sugar and the films have you seen them?

[Disco]

I would be questioning the advice from Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead if the guy who made it felt it necessary to go in for a sequel.

[Raoul Duke]

I eat too much sugar and am trying to cut it out as best I can. I think I'm alright generally for food - I try to eat healthy and buy organic stuff if I can.

My problem is running amok and drinking 7 pints then buying a greasy burger every so often.

I tend to find with most of these 'Supersize Me' kinda programmes that it's blindingly obvious that if you eat too much of anything then it's not good.

[Lewis]

Christopher Snowden does a great job donning these 'public health' wankers on Twitter. Give the miserable cunt a follow.

[Manc]

Everything in moderation.

[Henry]

I'd like to change my diet and I know how to do it, but I lack willpower.

I don't eat a lot of "sugary" things, but my portions are too big and I eat too much fried food.

[TG09]

I eat too much sugar and am trying to cut it out as best I can. I think I'm alright generally for food - I try to eat healthy and buy organic stuff if I can.

My problem is running amok and drinking 7 pints then buying a greasy burger every so often.

I tend to find with most of these 'Supersize Me' kinda programmes that it's blindingly obvious that if you eat too much of anything then it's not good.

Portion size is another thing I am trying to get sorted, we have bigish plates at home and i fill the plate up.

If you cut sugar out you will be surprised just by that how much better you feel and will look.

[Baz]

I can't think of a better way to spend a year, than spending it with Jessie Pavelka. :drool:

[Foe]

I'm going to try and eat less and more natural stuff. If I can snack on fruit and nuts I'll be in a much better place. Avoiding chips and mousses at work will be the tricky part.

[TG09]

That is the hardest part, is cutting the stuff out and fighting against the cravings. Back at work will be easier now, as we have fruit delivered to work, so I can snack on that. Eating a apple takes a lot of cravings away I find.

[Sam]

I go for chewing gum, keeps me from getting hunger pains. I eat a lot that being said for quite a small fella but I try to be as energetic as possible, for example. just played an hour of football after being in the gym for 90 minutes before hand. Tend to eat the right stuff.

Currently wolfing down pesto pasta with tomatoes, courgette, red onion and red pepper. Lovely.

[Spammer]

I don't eat that much stuff with loads of sugar. Avoid fizzy drinks, don't tend to eat much chocolate etc. The trick I find is to go food shopping shortly after a meal, so you don't let you current hunger dictate what you buy. If you then don't buy loads of shit food you have to go to the shop if you want to eat any.

Like Henry, I do tend to eat large portions which I need to think about. I do love eating loads though, and if it's good stuff then I don't feel it's that harmful really. I play football once a week and I'm doing that 7 minute workout thing everyday at the minute so I reckon I balance it out more or less.

[Magic]

I go for chewing gum, keeps me from getting hunger pains. I eat a lot that being said for quite a small fella but I try to be as energetic as possible, for example. just played an hour of football after being in the gym for 90 minutes before hand. Tend to eat the right stuff.

Currently wolfing down pesto pasta with tomatoes, courgette, red onion and red pepper. Lovely.

Hunger pangs. This isn't Africa.

[randomlegend]

buy organic stuff if I can.


Organic is such a load of bollocks.

[Magic]

Oh here we go.

The anti-organic brigade is out in force.

"Yeah, it's all a load of rubbish! Go to Aldi instead!"

[Spammer]

Aldi and Lidl :cool:

[randomlegend]

"Brigade"?

We had a lecture from a guy who used to work for a government body which dealt with toxins/dangerous chemicals etc.

They were tasked with looking into organic foods and nobody has been able to produce any decent evidence for the supposed health benefits.

To the contrary what they actually found in a lot of cases was that the organic stuff was potentially worse. In order to get around the fact they don't use exogenous pesticides, they selectively breed varieties which are intrinsically resistant. What this means is that they are higher in levels of the endogenous pesticides they naturally produce - chemicals which are often virtually identical to what we spray on them.

There was one case in particular where a variety of organic celery was so high in a certain chemical that it caused severe blistering reactions in the people who packed it.

[Magic]

Reads like a Daily Mail article. Next week you'll be telling us organic foods cause cancer.

[randomlegend]

You always get really hostile when your beliefs on what's healthy (or whatever) are challenged. It's quite odd.

[Magic]

Can't hear you over the sound of organic butter being spread on my organic bread.

[randomlegend]

I don't understand why people are so keen to base what they do on what they probably reckon feels like should be true rather than any kind of evidence of what actually is.

[Sam]

Hunger pangs. This isn't Africa.

Pangs?

That said, don't you get the growling stomach, bit of an ache and a headache when your hungry?

Generally get that if I don't eat for a decent amount of time, though when I'm drinking it gets bypassed.

[Magic]

Yeah, it's called a 'pang' not a pain.

[Magic]

I don't understand why people are so keen to base what they do on what they probably reckon feels like should be true rather than any kind of evidence of what actually is.

Let's face it, there's no 100% right or 100% wrong. It's probably more 55% better to 45% of non-organic. That's enough for me. Anyway the challenge is to get people to eat food that can be classed as organic, instead of manufactured, processed shite.

[Boydy]

I bet Magic campaigns for Dihydrogen Monoxide awareness.

[Pen]

I eat relatively healthy and have zero problems with my weight even though I eat a lot. That said, there are a few things I've been hoping to look into when it comes to 'my diet'. Sugar and salt are two things I definitely get too much daily as I use a lot of salt when I cook and am partial to the odd cider or a coke, and I am hoping to cut down on all of those as well as my weekly meat consumption, which is no doubt more than I need.

I guess I'll try to get back to having fruit as snack and cook vegetarian meals during the week at home as well as opt for the veggie versions at wok too. The drinking part shouldn't be too hard and I'm thinking of being quite strict with myself for six days a week and then have one day when I can have what I want (in some moderation of course).

[Davgooner]

I just try and cut out the utter, toxic shit, like sugary/energy drinks and shedloads of snacks. At work we've descended into a fucking terrible cycle of almost exclusively snacking on biscuits, crisps, and microwavable shite. I've turned it around because I'm busy enough to not really have much time at work for a good eat. It's what happens next which fucks me over. I ended up blitzing M&S last night and put together a meal which I'll still be shitting out in a month's time. Today may well go the same way.

[Sam]

Yeah, it's called a 'pang' not a pain.

Fair enough, didn't know that.

Being taught something by semi-useful by Magic, dizzy heights have been reached.

[leedsrevolution]

I'm quitting smoking tommorow (albeit with an e cig) im quite concerned though as I'm already a fat mess. Need to be careful not to transform into an actual beached whale.

[Magic]

I just try and cut out the utter, toxic shit, like sugary/energy drinks and shedloads of snacks. At work we've descended into a fucking terrible cycle of almost exclusively snacking on biscuits, crisps, and microwavable shite. I've turned it around because I'm busy enough to not really have much time at work for a good eat. It's what happens next which fucks me over. I ended up blitzing M&S last night and put together a meal which I'll still be shitting out in a month's time. Today may well go the same way.

I bet you wear Reebok running trainers with bootcut jeans.

[randomlegend]

Let's face it, there's no 100% right or 100% wrong. It's probably more 55% better to 45% of non-organic. That's enough for me. Anyway the challenge is to get people to eat food that can be classed as organic, instead of manufactured, processed shite.

So you think organic is '10% better'? How?

I imagine you and Diljeet had a wonderful time celebrating aspartame bring taken out of Pepsi.

[Magic]

So you think organic is '10% better'? How?

I imagine you and Diljeet had a wonderful time celebrating aspartame bring taken out of Pepsi.

Of course we did.

[Davgooner]

I bet you wear Reebok running trainers with bootcut jeans.

You're a disturbing individual.

[wullie]

I've never got the idea of boot cut jeans, they're just flares for cowards.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I walk eight miles a day to and from work and, these days, eat pretty well. I even play sport for half the year. Despite this I'm still that sort of knobhead level overweight, not enough to qualify as lifer fat, but enough that I definitely need to shift some.

The only issue I have is that my workplace is so bad for my mental health that if I didn't eat a decent meal and have a beer at the end of the day I'd be on suicide watch, so I'm not sure what to do about that.

[Disco]

Get a job that isn't in a Korean gulag?

[Lewis]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/35383842


Unilever, the multinational firm behind brands including Magnum and Cornetto, is to make all its ice creams aimed at adults smaller... Unilever said the move was to help consumers "make healthier choices." From the spring, "single serving" portions will contain no more than 250 calories.

Thank God for that. Now I can eat one every hour without worrying.

[Boydy]

Is the price going down?

[Lewis]

Yes, but less than it ought to be, as if they're actually just doing this cynically.

[The Merse]

I'd say my only problem food and drink-wise is coffee. I drink anywhere up to 8 cups a day at work, though without sugar. Otherwise, I enjoy healthy foods these days and keep the takeaways or eating out to a once a week treat.

I've been doing the Vegan thing for January, as I generally eat vegitarian at home anyway, perhaps just cooking with meat once a week or so. The only difference it's made to meals is with cheese really, and I wasn't using that much. Breakfast is a bit fucked as I love eggs. Will be returning to full on dairy/egg goodness on 1st February.

[Magic]

Jesus Christ. Is that instant or proper?

How do you not get the shakes/palpitations? I'm done after 3 or 4.

[The Merse]

Instant and proper. Normally start with a fresh latte from a coffee shop en route, have a cup of instant every hour or two at work and a flat white from the restaurant at some point, and recently another one from the aforementioned coffee shop en route home whilst changing bus.

As much as anything it's between £4 and £6 being spent every weekday on fucking coffee. Not a good move.

[Giggles]

I used to be the same in the last job, was 75c for a coffee like the Costa size one but that meant I was drinking 7 or 8 a day and used to get awful head rushes where I'd need to grab a wall to stop going down. With the new one being mobile I can't drink much at all or I'd be stopping to piss every hour, though that also means my daily water intake is 0 too.

[randomlegend]

Why are you being vegan for a month? It's not like it's particularly good for you.

[Angelsaint]

Interesting reading and good arguments from randomlegend.
These organic mania is getting totally out of hand.
Random what are your views on organic vegetables from your own garden?

[The Merse]

Why are you being vegan for a month? It's not like it's particularly good for you.

Environmental and animal welfare concerns are a big part of why I've heavily reduced my meat intake for the past few years. I do not believe that no animal should be slaughtered but object to intensive farming and the movement of cattle. Buying main produce only from a local grocers and butchers helps with sourcing of traditional produce locally, as well as the local economy. I'm not much of preacher of these things though. The veganism is due to dairy/egg produce posing the same issues. So an intensive month of giving them up is a personal commitment towards my belief that we're too reliant on intensive farming of livestock taken a step further.

[randomlegend]

I'm sure that month will make all the difference to the animals.

:P

EDIT: That used to be a smiley didn't it?

[phonics]

I would have gone for :x myself

edit: also not a smiley. #BlameBaz

[The Merse]

It's not very much about animals for me, it's mainly the environment.

Look, I don't preach on this subject but I'll defend a view - yes, that month may not do the world of good, but as stated I make a conscious choice to not eat meat at home more than once a week and limit my use of eggs/milk/cheese at home too, so that probably 70% of meals I prepare myself are in essence, vegan. I do not object to eating meat or using dairy products and I'm privileged in the aspect that I enjoy vegetarian food a great deal. Those choices are all made with my own conscience in mind, it's far too emotive a subject for some (which is all a bit lol) for me to tell others to do so - just a case of living life within your own morale framework (be that defined by yourself, or by religion etc), which applies across all aspects of life for anyone but a sociopath right?

[John]

Was ':x' ever a smiley? That seems more like some shit MSN thing for a kiss.