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[Disco]

Red Bull and Ferrari look a bit closer to the Mercs at Singapore this weekend, could be a decent race.

[Giggles]

Is it on BBC?

[Disco]

I don't believe it is.

I quite like the Sky coverage though, they're actually bothering unlike the BBC these days.

[Giggles]

It's better, I just don't have it.

[Disco]

Rosberg setting new records for capitulation, it only took two corners this morning.

[Serj]

Goddamnit, just started a thread.

Rosberg is a bottler.

[Disco]

And lapping about a second slower than Hamilton, you have to wonder what's going on.

[Serj]

He had to switch his engine to a lower mode due to high temperatures. Lap times instantly fell off after they told him that.

[Disco]

Yeah, he's just picked it up again.

Live Timing is officially shit now they've blanked out the sector times (or put them behind a paywall morelike).

[Gray Fox]

So Grosjean confirmed for Team Haas, with the indication being that he gives them until Kimi fucks off and then moves to Ferrari.

In other news Marussia look likely to seal a deal to gain Mercedes power next year(even if only 2015). This will see them become an almost feeder team to Mercedes too, now that Ferrari have Haas.
Lastly, Red Bull have apparently only been offered a 2015 spec Ferrari engine for next year and are making more noises about leaving F1 if the offer doesn't improve.

[Jimmy Floyd]

According to Joe Saward, i.e. the truth, it will cost Uncle Dietrich $500 million to pull out of F1 according to the terms of the contract. It's not going to happen and Ferrari know this so are basically trolling them.

[Disco]

Red Bull lol.

In even better news Monisha Kaltenborn and VJ Mallya have decided that suicide is preferable to what's currently happening to their teams (a slow lingering death by a thousand Maldonado's), especially when Bernard is handing you the pistol and winking all the while. They've complained to the EU about competition within F1, specifically how the prize money is divvied up, presumably they'll need to present some kind of evidence first but a full scale investigation would be :drool:

[phonics]

Did Verstappen receive any punishment for not letting that guy overtake the other week? I don't follow F1 but my parents have it on during Sunday Lunch. Seemed very odd that what is basically a child could just say 'No'.

[Disco]

He did not, at least not publically.

There's a little bit of background as they've asked him to do it several times already this season and he's always complied. This time they failed to explain the situation (I suspect the car behind was on a different strategy so they weren't really racing each other) and he didn't feel like letting his team mate through. Most people think he did the right thing in the circumstances.

[Gray Fox]

The teams filing the complaint is mainly about Ferrari. They get a 'bonus' just for turning up in the championship. Other teams don't get that.

As for Verstappen, it'll be dealt with behind closed doors. Vettel did this to Webber for Red Bull once, he ended up gaining a race win too. Nothing will really happen, just the team mates will probably fall out and throw a fit next time he's asked to do the same.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Verstappen is godly and Carlos Sainz is rubbish so I'm not sure anyone really cares.

[phonics]

If he didn't look like Andrei Arshavin he'd be my pick.

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http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3000000/Arshavin-wallpaper-andrei-arshavin-3031250-800-600.jpg

[Disco]

The teams filing the complaint is mainly about Ferrari. They get a 'bonus' just for turning up in the championship. Other teams don't get that.

As for Verstappen, it'll be dealt with behind closed doors. Vettel did this to Webber for Red Bull once, he ended up gaining a race win too. Nothing will really happen, just the team mates will probably fall out and throw a fit next time he's asked to do the same.

Other teams get payments too, Renault certainly get an historical payment and McLaren get some too. It's basically down to how much leverage you have with Bernie, which is kind of why they're complaining.

It's about governance essentially, up to now it's all been done behind closed doors in a rather shady manner. Bernie plays everyone off against each other and nobody really knows who gets what. Add in how the rules are dreamt up and it all looks extremely dodgy, not to mention that the governing body basically sold the rights to govern the sport despite their involvement being an EU stipulation the last time something like this was threatened.

[Jimmy Floyd]

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2015/09/epic-formula-1-season-takes-shape-as-2016-race-calendar-is-substantially-reworked/

That calendar is absolutely batshit mental, as is the idea of both Germany and Italy disappearing from the calendar. If the latter goes it's time to pull down the shutters I think. Then again, it's been eight years already since we went to France... but at least they have Monaco.

Montreal / Baku as back-to-back races :cool:

[Pleb]

Italy being last is all sorts of lol.

As long as they don't touch Belgium I'll be happy. Hope to go there again soon.

Properly read that wrong. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if they scrapped it which would be ashame.

[Disco]

Baku being there is all sorts of ridiculous, although I suppose it was only a matter of time.

Coming up next year; Pyongyang, Damascus and Mordor.

[Gray Fox]

Pleb Italy aren't last. It will be the last race at Monza next year unless a new deal is reached. That will probably mean no more Italian GP.

Good to see Bernie running the place into the ground before he snuffs it.

[Disco]

Really odd, muted qualifying topped off by Rosberg actually being faster than Hamilton for what, the second time this season?

[Jimmy Floyd]

Poor old Rosberg, what a shame.

[Disco]

I'll watch the whole thing later but I did have a small lol at seeing that he'd retired.

[Kikó]

That was a cracking finish for third. Enjoyed that race (well except the Hamilton part).

[Jimmy Floyd]

That little Putin / Hamilton conversation was the most awkward thing I've ever seen.

[Clunge]

Great race, but Putin stole the show :D. That was hilarious.

[Pepe]

F1 still exists?

When are they going to Mexico?

[SvN]

Are you actually surprised that F1 is still going, or are you just being a dickhead?

[Pepe]

Neither.

[Boom-Boom]

It sounds like there's a good chance we may not get qualifying today due to the weather.

The race may not even go ahead. Has this ever happened in F1? I'm sure it has but I can't remember it.

If the race was cancelled would they re-schedule it or just wipe it?

[Jimmy Floyd]

I can't remember a scheduled race just not starting. And when I say remember, I mean in the entire history of the sport. They've had a couple of dodgy ones in America with the Detroit track breaking up, and later the Indianapolis 2005 fiasco, but even those went ahead.

[Foe]

I can't remember a scheduled race just not starting. And when I say remember, I mean in the entire history of the sport. They've had a couple of dodgy ones in America with the Detroit track breaking up, and later the Indianapolis 2005 fiasco, but even those went ahead.

I'm over here and supposed to be going to it. The storm expected is all sorts of crazy. We bottled going to practice and gave up on the idea that qualifying would happen on Saturday. Heading up to Austin saturday night in the hope it goes ahead on Sunday. It's going to be miserable.

[Shindig]

They brute forced the Canada one Jensen fluked.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Jolyon Palmer has got next year's Lotus seat, which is nice for him.

[Pleb]

So if Qualifying doesn't happen today. Hulkenburg might get pole position tomorrow if Burnie wants to use the FP3 standings :baz:

[Boom-Boom]

Why might Hulkenburg get pole?

[Pleb]

Hamilton and Vettal have got engine penalties I believe even though Hulkenburg is 3rd in the FP3 standings .

[Boom-Boom]

Only Vettel has a penalty (as far as I'm aware).

[Boom-Boom]

This has potential to be a cracking day of racing.

[Shindig]

It's looking like a complete clusterfuck.

[Disco]

Given how precious the Yanks are about their anthem it's a wonder they let people butcher it at sporting events so often.

[Pleb]

A Vettal podium right now would be :drool:

[Pleb]

Safety cars :cool:

This race is bonkers so far.

[Boom-Boom]

Cracking race this. Wish it was like this more often.

[Pleb]

The mercs not pitting there is lolworthy.

Vettal should get a podium now.

[Disco]

Why has nobody ever thought of sprinklers....

[Boom-Boom]

Frustrating how long this is taking.

[Disco]

Vettel should win this from here.

[Pleb]

The safety cars are donning procedures at this rate.

[Boom-Boom]

Oh for fuck sake another safety car.

[Pleb]

Vettel :cool:

[Pleb]

Fucking hell another safety car :harold:

[Boom-Boom]

Fucking hell. Crazy race this.

[Disco]

Advantage Hamilton?

[Pleb]

Manor might get a point :serious:

[Disco]

Toto and Niki looked like they were lolling at Rosberg. :D

[Pleb]

What a fucking race that was.

Alonso robbed of a point :D

[Boom-Boom]

The hat throw :lol:

Fucking hell, what a race. One of the best I've seen, fitting race to decide the title.

[Samadini]

Rosberg on the ropes there.

[Davgooner]

What a sour cunt Rosberg is. Fuck off out of it.

[SvN]

Rosberg :harold:

[SvN]

Fucking hell look at the state of Elton John.

[Disco]

Elton asking the hard questions.

How are you?

[SincereTheRebel]

Im struggling to find the words to describe roseberg but he is one of the worst drivers ive ever seen since watching the sport to fuck up his opportunities. How many times is that now he has folded when lewis is behind him.

[Disco]

I missed the hat thing, what happened?

[Shindig]

He should really settle in as a second driver. As long as Hamilton's on the grid, he'll never get close but he'll still win races at Mercedes. He needs a chat with David Coulthard.

[Clunge]

Hamilton put on his P1 cap and chucked Rosberg his P2 one (the ones they're contractually obliged to wear on the podium). Rosberg chucked it straight back at him.

[Magic]

Just catching up on Moto GP and Rossi's just done a Zidane. Insane stuff.

[Boom-Boom]

Im struggling to find the words to describe roseberg but he is one of the worst drivers ive ever seen since watching the sport to fuck up his opportunities. How many times is that now he has folded when lewis is behind him.

Rosberg isn't a bad driver. I'd rate him along with the likes of Bottas, Kimi, Hulkenburg etc.

[Disco]

Rosberg isn't a bad driver. I'd rate him along with the likes of Bottas, Kimi, Hulkenburg etc.

Get out.

I haven't seen the Rossi thing yet but it sounds properly mental, I'm a race or two behind at the moment.

[Jimmy Floyd]

If you're going to seethe, seethe like Mark Webber. Rosberg is an absolute embarrassment. It's not like this was a Massa 2008 situation, he's been smashed from start to finish and repeatedly shown himself to have no bottle. Keke (who never had a car even slightly approaching this one) must be facepalming himself to death somewhere.

[Magic]

Get out.

I haven't seen the Rossi thing yet but it sounds properly mental, I'm a race or two behind at the moment.

Shit sorry, I thought it was only me and Shinners that bothered.

[Disco]

Shit sorry, I thought it was only me and Shinners that bothered.

Don't worry love, I already knew about it I just haven't seen it for myself.

[Magic]

I had no idea, it's jaw dropping stuff given the circumstances. Jaw dropping.

[Boom-Boom]

Get out.

I haven't seen the Rossi thing yet but it sounds properly mental, I'm a race or two behind at the moment.

You'd seriously rate Rosberg below Kimi right now? Kimi has been a shambles lately.

Rosberg is so pissed off right now. Hamilton probably would have got him without his error, Hamilton looked the faster driver towards the end of the race.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Kimi between say 2004 and 2008 was a world class driver. Had his moments at Lotus too. Never quite got the extreme level of fandom he attracts, but that's not his fault.

[Boom-Boom]

http://wtf1.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/hamilton-rosberg-friends.gif

http://giant.gfycat.com/TimelyGroundedGrayreefshark.gif

[Magic]

Haha Rossi's penalty is an absolute bottle job from race direction.

[Disco]

You'd seriously rate Rosberg below Kimi right now? Kimi has been a shambles lately.

Rosberg is so pissed off right now. Hamilton probably would have got him without his error, Hamilton looked the faster driver towards the end of the race.

Not right now, but the guy has not only won a world championship (which is enough to tip the scales) he was good enough to pull Schumi's pants down on multiple occasions. Also the Pele thing.

[Disco]

Haha Rossi's penalty is an absolute bottle job from race direction.

Stacy Moaner might be a prize berk but what he said about it was spot on.

[Magic]

It seems to have completely split fans and riders alike. Fogarty thinks Rossi should have been black flagged lol. Josh Brooks called MM a 'dick'. Sam Lowes called it fair game, so did Zarco.

[Disco]

Zarco wouldn't mind if he'd used a shotgun, I'll reserve judgment until I've seen the race.

[Foe]

That was absolutely mental.

The qualifying this morning was on a literally flooded track. Everything they started they cancelled.

The weather cleared a bit and the track dried quite spectacularly. The race itself was absolutely mental. Incidents galore. I was at turn 19 so got to see kyvit's horrific nose dive first hand.

Also saw elton John in 'concert' after. Knew about 3 songs so resorted to playing angry birds on my phone.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4VuWZsRMk

Not on.

[Magic]

You can see Marquez lean in to him.

[John Arne]

I'm not a Moto GP fan at all.. but to me it looks like Marquez leans into him way too much, so Rossi tries to kicks the massive bike off him.

[Vim]

Rossi shouldn't have reacted the way he did, but the problem is that Marquez was not riding to win, he was riding specifically to make Rossi lose the championship to Lorenzo.

[Magic]

Tin foil hat, Vim. I don't think he was, he's not been great on that Honda all year, I don't think he had the pace to stay with Ped or JL the problem is Rossi just isn't as fast at circuits that he doesn't like, which results in him battling with people like Iannone and an out of form Marquez.

[Shindig]

Marquez has the pace of him on the outside. He's not trying to stuff Rossi's race. He's trying to overtake. As for his lean, that's his 'thing'. He leans way more than anyone on track.

[Disco]

Whatever he's doing it's never going to be a justification for intentionally knocking someone off their bike. Disgraceful.

[Magic]

I don't think he intentionally did it, Marquez leaned on him so naturally you push your knee out to push them back.

Also Marquez was SUPER aggressive. Some of his moves were fucking mental.

[Serj]

In that situation he's only leaning because he probably expects Rossi to take the corner at some point. I also don't think Rossi kicked him, but he's definitely more responsible for the crash.
Marquez' behavior during the race was odd to say the least, but I still think Rossi is slightly lucky with his punishment. I really expected him to be black-flagged initially.

[Magic]

I'd absolutely fucking love it if Lorenzo fucked it all up and fell off or someone KO'd the cunt and Rossi won it by 4 points. I'd laugh so hard. He's a wank.

[Magic]

Can I also say we should have a generic motorsport thread, seeing as how F1 is a pile of shat these days.

BTCC this season was awesome, as were all the BSB classes and WSBK. Moto 3 and 2 have been pretty good too. COME ON DANNY KENT.

[Disco]

Get it done, I've missed BTCC this year but I'm almost up to date with WSBK and all the Motos. WSS still to get to.

[Pepe]

Haven't watched any motorsports in ages. :(

[Vim]

I'd absolutely fucking love it if Lorenzo fucked it all up and fell off or someone KO'd the cunt and Rossi won it by 4 points. I'd laugh so hard. He's a wank.

A Facebook event in Italy called "Convincing Iannone to take everyone out on the first corner in Valencia" already has over 400 thousand members.

[Disco]

DORNA should intervene and just give it to Iannone for being such a boss.

[Magic]

That petition to revoke Rossi's penalty has thousands of signatures already.

[Pleb]

It should be titled "The 'F1, MotoGP and other motor racing nonsense' thread" :baz:

Mexico will be shite now #sorrypepe

[Pepe]

Why?

[Byron]

Because Mexico is shite.

[Giggles]

I was trying to remember who Rossi was. At least split off the two wheeled shite.

[Boom-Boom]

Could be another great race today.

[Disco]

I'm pretty much watching just for the potential seethe. :drool:

[Jimmy Floyd]

It's a great setting isn't it. Proper racing venue.

[Jimmy Floyd]

That said, it was better before the entire fucking thing was run-off.

[Disco]

Safety Car. :drool:

Exactly what we needed. That extra stop not looking so pointless now.

[John Arne]

Ecclestone's wife :drool: Surely he isn't stupid enough to think she is with him for his looks....

Also, Brundle just asked whether the black armband that Bernie is wearing was in rememberance of those killed in Paris, to which he replied something like "oh, is that what it's for?".
Dick.

[John]

Probably thought it was for Lebanon, you Eurocentric shit.

[John Arne]

Kenya mate, Kenya.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I think that was a pointed comment due to Jean Todt saying yesterday 'many more people die in road accidents than in the Paris attacks'.

[niko_cee]

I didn't really follow it that closely, but did Hamilton ask to 'go onto Plan B' (ie 3 stops), get told it wasn't sensible (lie), and then promptly end up on it anyway when Rosberg went that way? When did it become the right thing to do? I thought Hamilton must have been trying to flog his tyres in that second stint to try and get on to 3 quicker but he may as well not bother now they've gone into podium preservation mode. If this continues next season the sport is going to die. Get Mad Max in something that can shift next year.

[Gray Fox]

Mad Max is confirmed in a Toro Rosso next year. Really is a little boring now Hamilton seems to have switched off for the year.

[Disco]

I think it's more that the team have, once they get round the first bend in first and second all they want to do is hold position.

[Dquincy]

Ecclestone's wife :drool: Surely he isn't stupid enough to think she is with him for his looks....

Also, Brundle just asked whether the black armband that Bernie is wearing was in rememberance of those killed in Paris, to which he replied something like "oh, is that what it's for?".
Dick.

He didn't say that.

[Dquincy]

I think that was a pointed comment due to Jean Todt saying yesterday 'many more people die in road accidents than in the Paris attacks'.
That's a really odd thing to say by him. I don't get his point.

[Disco]

His whole reasoning for being FIA president was to get a UN job on road safety so he spends all his time laboriously relating everything back to it in an attempt at relevancy.

[John Arne]

He didn't say that.

I'm pretty sure he did.

What do you think he said?

[John Arne]

Ah, here you go...


Bernie Ecclestone, the sport’s chief executive, seemed as confused as anyone. Asked by Sky’s Martin Brundle if he was wearing a black armband for the victims in Paris, he half-jokingly *replied: “I think that’s what it’s for.”

As Jimmy mentioned, Todt was pushing his road safety campaign also, so there was a slightly uneasy double mourning.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Trying to make F1 'relevant' is absolutely laughable. It began as an aristocratic hobby and that's what it still is.

[SincereTheRebel]

Now that the season is officially over. I hope i never see Maldonado inside a racing car again,

[Gray Fox]

Now that the season is officially over. I hope i never see Maldonado inside a racing car again,

I've got some bad news for you.

[SincereTheRebel]

I've got some bad news for you.


the fuck out of here

[Gray Fox]

the fuck out of here

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/24231/9999722/pastor-maldonado-to-stay-at-lotus-for-2016-season

Sorry. Money talks.

[Byron]

I read he brings something like $30m through his PDVSA connections. For a team like Lotus, that's easily half their budget, if not more.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Maldonado winning that race has to be one of sport's great anomalies. Has otherwise only once finished above 7th, which was a solitary 5th in 2012.

[SincereTheRebel]

Maldonado gives me hope that i can become, an f1 driver

[Disco]

I'm not sure I should ever have given up my campaign to have him referred to permanently as Race Winner Pastor Maldonado. And he'll be on the grid as long as Venezuela isn't entirely bankrupt and an F1 team needs money.

[Gray Fox]

I read he brings something like $30m through his PDVSA connections. For a team like Lotus, that's easily half their budget, if not more.

He brought them £30m last season I believe. Which for a cash strapped team is a no brainer sadly.

[Shindig]

BBC drop the rights. ITV step in.

[Jimmy Floyd]

BBC Sport is a real feminist mess at the moment.

I don't think I watched a race on BBC after Sky got Brundle.

[Gray Fox]

I stayed on BBC coverage, but only because I refused to pay £10+ a month extra for the one channel. So BBC has no rights at all now then?

[Disco]

For a sport that relies on sponsorship to keep half it's teams alive they do seem keen on keeping as many people from seeing it as possible, or indeed publicising it at all.

[Shindig]

I stayed on BBC coverage, but only because I refused to pay £10+ a month extra for the one channel. So BBC has no rights at all now then?

Olympics. FA Cup.

[Gray Fox]

Potential good news.

Maldonado has failed to stump up his sponsor cash, supposed to be around £35m to Lotus. If they can't get the money soon, they'll be replacing him with K-Mag.

[Disco]

You mean Race Winner Pastor Maldonado.

I won't claim to have an in depth knowledge of Venezuelan politics but I understand this is part of an attempt to save the somewhat cash strapped national oil company (PDVSA) a bit of money.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was reading the other day that there have only been three new race winners in the last six seasons, our friend Pastor being one of them, along with Ricciardo and presumably Rosberg. That's a bit of a mindfuck.

[SincereTheRebel]

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/29871/10145882/kevin-magnussen-set-to-replace-pastor-maldonado-at-renault

Praise be to Allah
Hallelujah Jesus
In the Name of Blood

[niko_cee]

The true aim of the relentless drive on oil prices is finally revealed.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I'm pleased for Magnussen, reckon he's a very good Grand Prix driver. Need more of those in the game.

I wonder how Haas will get on. Some believe Manor may be into midfield this year.

[Shindig]

Pastor wind up killing someone in CART.

[Disco]

But Race Winner guys.