Film Thread

[Vim]

I agree with Zim

Excuse me. :O

[Pleb]

Did anyone find Aunt May to be a bit too young in the film considering in the comics she's a lot older? I understand that Spiderman barely understood his power and Iron Man gave him a costume upgrade to fight with him. I'm assuming that Civil War is soon after Uncle Ben's death surely?

[Giggles]

I thought you were all on about a new SpiderMan film. Is SpiderMan in one of the Avengers series? Are they the same franchise?

[Magic]

Did anyone find Aunt May to be a bit too young in the film considering in the comics she's a lot older? I understand that Spiderman barely understood his power and Iron Man gave him a costume upgrade to fight with him. I'm assuming that Civil War is soon after Uncle Ben's death surely?

I was too busy imagining an incest scene to be honest.

[Pleb]

I thought you were all on about a new SpiderMan film. Is SpiderMan in one of the Avengers series? Are they the same franchise?
There's going to be a Spiderman film called "Spiderman: Homecoming" next year so they gave him a cameo in the new Captain America film.

I believe Marvel Studios signed the rights off from Sony/Paramount or something to put him in the MCU.


I was too busy imagining an incest scene to be honest.
:D

[Foe]

Enjoyed True Grit more than I thought I would.

Jeff Bridges is pretty damned good in everything I see him in. I.e. he's good at being pissed.

[phonics]

I don't usually share my snobby opinions on film posters but my word...

[http://i.imgur.com/tSGsaJl.jpg

[Yevrah]

John Travolta's face is becoming quite special.

[Spoonsky]

Everybody Wants Some is great, very enjoyable. Almost makes me want to take the Mert path in life. I'll have to watch Dazed and Confused properly now.

[Lewis]

Oh and I found Martin Freeman's accent really off putting at times.

It's terrible isn't it? It almost spoils the otherwise really good film.

[Henry]

Predestination isn't bad. Above-average time-travel stuff which almost holds together on a logical level, which is itself quite rare.

[John Arne]

Predestination isn't bad. Above-average time-travel stuff which almost holds together on a logical level, which is itself quite rare.

My missus' head nearly exploded at the end of Predestination. I wasn't too far behind.

[John]

I loved it, but the more I think back to it the more I'm convinced that was largely down to Sarah Snook's performance, which was fantastic.

[Magic]

Henry seems like the type to suck a stillbitrh from a homosexual man

[Baz]

Pure Pwnage Teh Movie took a while longer than it should have to get going (instant lols from the first few mins aside) but it was pretty good once it did. I'm a superfan though so way biased.

[Ian]

I enjoyed the new Cap'n Murica film, which is no huge surprise. The pleasant surprise was that I thought Spider-Man looked deeply irritating in the trailers but he was pretty solid in the film. As much as Winter Soldier is the best Marvel film the Captain America ones are the ones which tend to take themselves the most SUPER SRS so having Spider-Man and Ant-Man in the jolly things up a bit was nice.

[Boydy]

I watched the trailer for the first Captain America film the other day. I didn't know much about them/him previously as I'd just dismissed it as comic book shite. I actually thought it looked alright and might give it a go sometime.

[Lewis]

They probably make for the best actual films because he doesn't really have mega powers and he isn't a particularly complex character, so it can't just be him blowing everything up and having a mood on.

[Bernanke]

So The Irishman is finally happening...?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-stx-wins-battle-martin-893113


De Niro and Pacino have been attached to star in The Irishman for years. The movie finally has finally gotten a start date now that the financing has been decided, with Scorsese set to start shooting in January following the release of his upcoming passion project, Silence.

Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel. Goddamn. :drool:

[Manc]

Vicky Cristina Barcelona may well be the only Woody Allen film I don't find insufferable.

The Help was pleasant if unspectacular.

[Magic]

Tried watching Adaption and just can't take Cage's role seriously. Maybe because he's a sold out mess now.

[Shindig]

John Travolta's face is becoming quite special.

Its like he grew a beard and then someone hastily airbrushed it out.

[SvN]

So The Irishman is finally happening...?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cannes-stx-wins-battle-martin-893113



Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel. Goddamn. :drool:


Feels like he's been trying to make that film with those 4 for about a decade or so now.

Surely it can't disappoint.

[John]

10 Cloverfield Lane is very good until it suddenly and emphatically isn't. I haven't seen a film collapse like that since The Village.

[Magic]

High Fidelity was fucking awesome, by the way. One of my favourites of recent times. That and the Station Agent.

[Ian]

How long does it take for that to happen?

The Village did it about halfway through, didn't it?

[ItalAussie]

10 Cloverfield Lane is very good until it suddenly and emphatically isn't. I haven't seen a film collapse like that since The Village.

So, weirdly, the twist everyone hated is about the only thing I liked in The Village.

[John]

So, weirdly, the twist everyone hated is about the only thing I liked in The Village.

I told the film, out loud, to fuck off at the point of that twist. It was as though someone had been told about the big moment in Sixth Sense and tried to pull off the same stunt without ever actually watching the film.

Having read about the originally scripted ending of 10 Cloverfield Lane it's actually annoyed me more in retrospect, despite the collapse not being anywhere near as total as that in The Village, because the change is completely unnecessary.

[The Merse]

Must be the tenth time or so of watching The Commitments tonight. Kinda gutted I missed the stage show and I fucking hate musicals, such is the quality of that movie. It's a shade off Blues Brothers, but only just.

[The Merse]

So, weirdly, the twist everyone hated is about the only thing I liked in The Village.

I liked the twist too and have never really understood why so many people felt it almost wasted the time they'd invested for some reason.

[John]

For me a good twist either recontextualises what came before or uses the expectations created by it to zig when it's supposed to zag. The Village actively and fundamentally changes the story in a way that renders most of what's been seen up until that point irrelevant.

[Manc]

Funny Games is on sky arts. Get on it.

[Boydy]

I watched Deadpool on Sunday. I really enjoyed it.

[Lewis]

X-Men: Apocalypse is really good.

[Henry]

X-Men: Apocalypse is really good.

You're the first one I've heard say that. But like fuck am I going to another superhero movie.

[Lewis]

The Jungle Book is class. Luca isn't remotely irritating, and, I know I always stick up for computer effects, but it was definitely better for having actually trained all the animals to speak and that.

I lolled at King Louie being Colonel Kurtz.

[Magic]

Loving Clerks so far.

[Boydy]

Someone recommend me an action film.

They don't make enough good ones these days.

[Magic]

The thought of Boyd sitting there in his skinny jeans pretending to be interested in an ACTION film on his 19" Argos telly so he can join in with THE LADS when they recite Top Gun quotes amuses me.

[Spoonsky]

If you want something in recent years it's hard to beat any of the Mission Impossibles.

[Pepe]

Cell 211.

[Boydy]

I love dumb action films.

They're my go to comfort blanket when I'm sick and/or hungover.

[Boydy]

If you want something in recent years it's hard to beat any of the Mission Impossibles.
Oh yeah, that latest one is meant to be good, isn't it?

Cell 211.

Seen it.

[Magic]

Before Sunrise trilogy.

[Pepe]

Casino Royale.

[Pepe]

The thought of Boyd sitting there in his skinny jeans pretending to be interested in an ACTION film on his 19" Argos telly so he can join in with THE LADS when they recite Top Gun quotes amuses me.

:D

[Magic]

Captain America Civil War was bloody brilliant. Any of the XMens?

[Manc]

Lost in translation.

[John]

The Man From Nowhere. DS will back me up on that.

[Boydy]

I don't really like Asian cinema and I'm in no mood to be watching anything subtitled anyway.

[Cord]

Have you seen Edge of Tomorrow?

[Boydy]

Yeah. Good shout though, something along those lines is what I'm after.

[Adam]

10 Cloverfield Lane is very good until it suddenly and emphatically isn't. I haven't seen a film collapse like that since The Village.

So fucking true, I watched it last night, absolute shambolic ending.

[John]

Just put Running Man or something on, Boyd. Brainless action films peaked in the eighties.

[Manc]

Reqeuim for a Dream, ten minutes, Film4.

[Magic]

Ass to ass! :drool:

[Pepe]

One of the best lines in film history.

[Foe]

bolt was a bit good.

Surprised it's not as highly regarded as some of the other animated films.

[Boydy]

Just watched The Big Short. Surprisingly entertaining for a film about the financial crisis. Also depressing as fuck though.

[Spammer]

Song of the South

I wouldn't say it was racist but I can see why Disney have chosen to bury it. The way it presents black and white people was quite unsettling, considering it was a kids film. If it was a film for adults then I really doubt there'd be any problem whatsoever. I'd worry about what kids might learn from it though, so I can understand that. Not sure if it's up to Disney to decide to 'protect the children' rather than individual parents, but that's another debate.

[Browning]

bolt was a bit good.

Surprised it's not as highly regarded as some of the other animated films.

Anyone I speak to about Disney films seems to love it, as do I, but I know what you mean. It deserves more credit.

For me it's the movie where Disney really turned a corner. They'd have some terrible releases before that, but starting with Bolt they've got back on track.

[Baz]

Has anyone bothered with Grimsby yet?

[Foe]

american gangster was a solid 'gangster' affair.

Emma stone really is a delight though.

[Henry]

A Hologram for the King is shit.

Green Room is okay, but the Nazi's in it are inept.

[Raoul Duke]

I watched Looper today, which managed to not totally balls up time travel. The reveal was obvious 500 miles away, but still well done.

[Foe]

I watched Looper today, which managed to not totally balls up time travel. The reveal was obvious 500 miles away, but still well done.

Have you seen moon?

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah, it was pretty good from what I remember.

[Ian]

I watched Kingsman tonight. Thought it was really good. Tone was a bit odd at times but generally I thought they nailed it.

[John]

X Men: Apocalypse is complete bilge.

[Bernanke]

Started on the Bourne-trilogy again. :drool:

[Ian]

I love the Bourne films. I suspect the new one might be a bit shit but I dunno if that's based on anything or if I'm just trying to dampen my own expectations in case it actually is. The sequence at Waterloo station is one of my favourites in an action film.

Just watched the trailer for Moana:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6PbWhWGUrY
Visually that looks wonderful.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That looks brilliant.

[Magic]

Looks a bit like the Croods. Which was brilliant.

[Spammer]

First Blood is on ITV4 :cool:

It's the background music that makes it.

[Spoonsky]

The Lobster was... something. Not quite sure what to make of it.

Anyone on here seen it and have thoughts?

[Spammer]

Genuinely decent acting from Stallone at the end there.

[Dark Soldier]

The Lobster was... something. Not quite sure what to make of it.

Anyone on here seen it and have thoughts?

I went over the top with the praise on the first viewing, second time round I found the first half or so entertaining and then it shits the bed.

[Magic]

Red Heat on ITV. :drool:

[Savi]

The Lobster was... something. Not quite sure what to make of it.

Anyone on here seen it and have thoughts?

First half was really good, second half was really bad. So.. yeah

Saw The Neon Demon last night. It was brilliant from start to finish. Refn is just in a class of his own aesthetically.

[Pepe]

Finally watched The Revenant tonight. I thought it was excellent.

On the other hand, Joy might be the worst film I have ever watched.

[John]

Independence Day 2 is an absolute headache. The worst 'blockbuster' I've seen in fuck knows how long. They must spend about three minutes of the runtime on people screaming at a point slightly to the left of the camera and crowd shots of people celebrating the tiniest victories.

They call the events of the original 'The Battle of 96', which generated a couple of lols.

[SvN]

We had tickets booked to go and see that last night, but we decided not to go. Sounds like we made the right choice.

[Magic]

It looks like a disgrace. Surprisingly it's only got 5.7/10 on iMDB. Which means in reality it's more like a 2.5/10 if you remove the fanboy votes.

[John]

We had tickets booked to go and see that last night, but we decided not to go. Sounds like we made the right choice.

You did. It's not even a so bad it's good shambles where you can lol at the dialogue. It's just weightless, stakeless set pieces piled on top of eachother, every one abysmal and stolen from elsewhere.

For those who've seen it or don't care about spoilers.

As an example of how eager everyone is to celebrate, in the first ten minutes of the film a mysterious orb appears out of a wormhole on their moonbase. Our human heroes immediately blast it to bits with a laser and celebrate exactly like they did when they won the whole war in the first film.

There's also a plot point which involves one of the ships in Africa having landed offscreen in the first film and started trying to mine out the centre of the earth. Some African warlord then spent the next ten years fighting a ground war against the aliens, without any help at all from the 'United World' the presence of the aliens apparently created. Who the fuck dreamed that up?

[ItalAussie]

Finding Dory is perfectly decent.

Some fun moments. Nothing particularly brilliant, but generally entertaining.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tried to watch Hell Baby and couldn't finish it.

We're it not for Riki Lindhome's nude scene it would probably be the worst thing ever.

[Yevrah]

10 Cloverfield Lane is pretty good. Not overly convinced by the end, but that didn't really matter.

Grimsby is obviously shit, but I did laugh at the elephant scene.

[Yevrah]

On the subject of 10 Cloverfield Lane, people who write shit like this really need to be put down.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/17/11255744/10-cloverfield-lane-movie-ending-backlash

Spoilers everywhere, obvs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't even get past the title and subtitle.

What wank.

[John]

On the subject of 10 Cloverfield Lane, people who write shit like this really need to be put down.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/17/11255744/10-cloverfield-lane-movie-ending-backlash

Spoilers everywhere, obvs.

There are a million problems with the ending, but the main one is that it's completely unnecessary.

The original script ended with the girl escaping from the bunker and driving away in Fritzl's car. As she's getting to the top of a hill a garbled radio message comes through mentioning something about fighting, then the camera pans up to show a wrecked city on the other side of the hill. End of film.

Now, the stated reason for all that mad stuff being tacked on was to bring it into the 'Cloverfield brand', but how the fuck is an alien spaceship any more in line with that than a mysteriously wrecked city. If anything they've moved it further away from what the original Cloverfield was.

[Dquincy]

One Night in Istanbul is a terrible film. It's so odd.

[Spammer]

A Girl Like Her is decent

Vertigo is weird

[SvN]

I thought Vertigo was magnificent when I watched it a few years ago. In what way did you think it was weird?

[Spoonsky]

Vertigo is pretty weird. For one thing it's just creepy, and in a sneakier way than something like Nightcrawler, but the pacing is also strange with those long middle sections driving around the city. Great film though.

[SvN]

I took "weird" to be negative, but yeah, it has a unique style.

[Spammer]

A shit ending too. Proper wtf.

[Magic]

Last Boy Scout on ITV. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Some more films that I have seen.

ET - Still a classic, but I suspect the version I saw had the George Lucas treatment, for some inexplicable reason.

Zootopia - Delightful stuff, with some really nice touches.

The Hateful Eight - Understand that this one polarises, but personally, I loved it. Really got into the characters, it created a wonderful atmosphere and the (admittedly) ludicrous run time just flew past.

[Magic]

I tried ET with the little un but she shat it.

[Yevrah]

How old is she?

My Mum always reckons she took me to the cinema to see ET and I sat there transfixed for the whole thing, which I find very hard to believe given I'd have been two at the time.

[Magic]

3 at the time.

[Yevrah]

Watching the Big Short again now.

I got it wrong first time round, it's a good film.

[Pepe]

I thought it was going to be shit but it's alright.

[Shindig]

Vertigo is pretty weird. For one thing it's just creepy, and in a sneakier way than something like Nightcrawler, but the pacing is also strange with those long middle sections driving around the city. Great film though.

Vertigo's the one where Jimmy Stewart is the bloke out of Rear Window but with legs, right? And he gets obsessed with a woman who looks exactly like his dead ex or something because SUSPENSE! I dunno what to make of Hitchcock. I generally like his work but can't look past Strangers on a Train as the one.

[Sam]

Just watched Legend of Tarzan thought it would be shit, ended up being worse. Arguably one of the worst I've ever seen.

[Yevrah]

So, Dirty Grandpa.

While being far from good, it's not that bad and I did genuinely lol a couple of times. The "you look like the keynote speaker at a buttfucking convention" line was one such time.

Grimsby, for example, was a lot worse.

[SvN]

The Kermode review for that is probably my favourite review ever.

[Yevrah]

The Kermode review for that is probably my favourite review ever.

It was a classic.

"And not just fleetingly, but for a long time"

:D

[Yevrah]

Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room is quite boring and doesn't go into the nature of their executives deceptions in anything like enough detail.

[ItalAussie]

Vertigo's the one where Jimmy Stewart is the bloke out of Rear Window but with legs, right? And he gets obsessed with a woman who looks exactly like his dead ex or something because SUSPENSE! I dunno what to make of Hitchcock. I generally like his work but can't look past Strangers on a Train as the one.I like how you spend the first half of the film thinking you're supposed to see Jimmy Stewart as a protagonist (He's Jimmy Stewart!), and you only slowly realise that he's losing the plot as you get to the second half of the tilm.

[randomlegend]

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ghostbusters_2016/

Is this just critics trying to avoid being branded sexist?

[Shindig]

Honest Trailers reminded me how Ghostbusters II is Ghostbusters.

[Lewis]

I took the SEXISM to be an easy out. You could have re-made it with blokes and the Pokemon Go-playing manchildren would have still shat the bed, so blaming that lets you 1) brush off bad reviews; and 2) re-boot other franchises without having to justify why your last attempt failed.

[John]

There was definitely a whiff of the Harold/Mert agenda in the initial "fucking WOMEN?" response, but since then basically every legitimate criticism has been shouted down as sexist by some twat or another.

[randomlegend]

There was definitely a whiff of the Harold/Mert agenda in the initial "fucking WOMEN?" response

I think it was that it seemed like they were specifically redoing it just so they could do it with women.

[Shindig]

It wasn't much to do with gender politics more than it was to do with nerds getting completely pissy over Bill Murray not doing a cameo. Yeah, the first film is an 80s classic but then they made a second one which had the same plot of the first. You don't get to be upset over this. Consider yourself lucky you got a third film. A film the original cast never unanimously wanted to make. Take it or leave it.

[John]

I think it was that it seemed like they were specifically redoing it just so they could do it with women.

Not to anyone sensible. Everything is getting a remake or a reboot at the moment, particularly anything borne of the eighties, so Ghostbusters was going to get one sooner or later.


It wasn't much to do with gender politics more than it was to do with nerds getting completely pissy over Bill Murray not doing a cameo. Yeah, the first film is an 80s classic but then they made a second one which had the same plot of the first. You don't get to be upset over this. Consider yourself lucky you got a third film. A film the original cast never unanimously wanted to make. Take it or leave it.

Bill Murray does do a cameo.

[randomlegend]

Not to anyone sensible. Everything is getting a remake or a reboot at the moment, particularly anything borne of the eighties, so Ghostbusters was going to get one sooner or later.


Yeah, but what I mean is there wasn't any reason to make the whole cast female other than to go "LOOK, WOMEN!"

[Vim]

There's no point in supposedly being progressive with an all-female cast if one of them is just going to be the usual shouting black woman. I watched some of her stand-up and it was absolutely painful.

[John]

Yeah, but what I mean is there wasn't any reason to make the whole cast female other than to go "LOOK, WOMEN!"

It's a Paul Feig film. Female lead casts are his thing, and his biggest hit was the one with an all female cast.


There's no point in supposedly being progressive with an all-female cast if one of them is just going to be the usual shouting black woman. I watched some of her stand-up and it was absolutely painful.

She was being a cunt on Twitter lately too, whining about how none of the big fashion houses had volunteered to 'dress' her for some awards do, and saying they'd come to regret it when she shows them no love in future. She seems utterly intolerable.

[ItalAussie]

There was definitely a whiff of the Harold/Mert agenda in the initial "fucking WOMEN?" response, but since then basically every legitimate criticism has been shouted down as sexist by some twat or another.Yeah. I don't tend to go in for reboots as a general rule, so I'm giving this one a wide berth. But there's a reason that this got far, far more vitriol than, say, Total Recall or Robocop, and a lot of it was uncomfortably misogynist. The trailer was eventually the most disliked video on Youtube, which is clearly not just a result of people being tired of franchise reboots (even if Youtube-trailer-disliking is one of the pitiful possible ways to express your futile anger), or else the other unnecessary IP-revivals would see the same thing.

It doesn't really sound like a good movie in itself, but that doesn't even come close to justifying the weird degree of hatred levelled at it from some sections, given that unnecessary reboots and sequels of nostalgia-inducing properties are basically everywhere. But that hatred has certainly muddied the water for any subsequent reviews (which are either sexist! or pandering! depending on which side you started on, irrespective of the quality of the movie).

[Dark Soldier]

Yeah, but what I mean is there wasn't any reason to make the whole cast female other than to go "LOOK, WOMEN!"

Would be amazing with an all male cast. Seth Rogen and his cronies, maybe Slimer smokes some weed. Top notch.

[Bernanke]

It was a classic.

"And not just fleetingly, but for a long time"

:D

Just watched this, jesus fucking christ. :D

[John]

Kermode's best review is of 'Little Man'. He sounds like he's about to weep for the duration.

[Yevrah]

The Visit is disconcertingly poor. The whole thing looks like it's been made by a sixth form film club.

Shyamalan should probably retire if that's all he has in his locker now.

[Foe]

Filth is absolutely bat shit mental.

[Magic]

Going to try The Revenant tonight.

[Boydy]

I thought you tried that most nights?

i.e. having sex with a bear i.e. your wife.

[Giggles]

I lolled.

Looking through my choice, the best bet may actually be Grimsby :face:

[Magic]

I thought you tried that most nights?

i.e. having sex with a bear i.e. your wife.

Thanks for the spoiler, cunt.

[Manc]

Whiplash is just brilliant.

[Magic]

Didn't know if Rev had subs or not so binned it and watched Kajaki again. So hard hitting and tougher to watch after Chilcot.

[Yevrah]

High-Rise has interesting things in it, which stops it from being a dreadful film, but ultimately it's an absolute fucking mess - littered with the sort of dreamy bohemian nonsense that ruins any sense of structure to the narrative. Which is a shame really, as it definitely had potential.

[Yevrah]

I've just put Batman vs Superman on only to see that it's two and a half hours long. Obviously had low expectations anyway, but fucking hell.

[Baz]

High-Rise has interesting things in it, which stops it from being a dreadful film, but ultimately it's an absolute fucking mess - littered with the sort of dreamy bohemian nonsense that ruins any sense of structure to the narrative. Which is a shame really, as it definitely had potential.one of my missus' pretentious bellend mates has told us we have to watch this. We'll see.

[John]

I've just put Batman vs Superman on only to see that it's two and a half hours long. Obviously had low expectations anyway, but fucking hell.

I subjected myself to the 'Ultimate Edition' a couple of weeks ago. It's turd, and I can't think of a single character who remains consistent over the course of the film.

[Spammer]

I've just put Batman vs Superman on only to see that it's two and a half hours long. Obviously had low expectations anyway, but fucking hell.

Apparently there's a version that's 3 hours long and makes a lot more sense.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently there's a version that's 3 hours long and makes a lot more sense.

The ultimate? I've downloaded that.

Even as a fanboy of all things superhero I'm dreading it a little. The film just looks so bad.

[Yevrah]

I've bailed, I just couldn't face it.

And I've still yet to see a coherent explanation as to why every piece of shit film is two hours twenty plus these days. It makes no commercial sense whatsoever.

[Spammer]

The ultimate? I've downloaded that.

Even as a fanboy of all things superhero I'm dreading it a little. The film just looks so bad.

Aye.

And yeah, me too. I never got into the Marvel stuff really but I grew up liking Superman and Batman a lot. I'm expecting it to be shit but I'll still watch it.

[Boydy]

I started reading High Rise a while ago and found it dull. I gave up on it temporarily intending to go back to it but I'm not sure I will. Same thing happened with J. G. Ballard's Crash. I doubt I'll bother with the film now either.

[John]

Apparently there's a version that's 3 hours long and makes a lot more sense.

I haven't seen the normal one, but if it makes considerably less sense than the one I watched then whoever put it out in the first place should be arrested.

[SvN]

Just watched Go, knowing nothing about it other than the favourable reviews. I thought it was great. A clear rip off of Pulp Fiction, ridiculously over the top and some poor acting at times, but I was constantly engrossed and entertained. Really surprised at how much I enjoyed it.

[Magic]

Anyone up for doing the opposite of the TOP 250 in IMDB? I'm on about the bottom 10 films. They are:

Rank & Title IMDb Rating Your Rating
1. Code Name: K.O.Z. (2015) 1.5
2. Saving Christmas (2014) 1.6
3. Superbabies: Baby Geniuses 2 (2004) 1.6
4. Daniel der Zauberer (2004) 1.6
5. Manos: The Hands of Fate (1966) 1.7
6. Pledge This! (2006) 1.7
7. Turks in Space (2006) 1.8
8. Birdemic: Shock and Terror (2010) 1.8
9. Titanic: The Legend Goes On... (2000) 1.8
10. Disaster Movie (2008) 1.9

Anyone seen any of them so far? If I can get a hold of any of them via torrent I'm going to give them a try.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Turks in Space sounds fabulous.

[Yevrah]

So Babel, I've had it on my shelf for ages now without bothering, so tonight was the night and sadly it's not very good.

The Brad Pitt bit was very well done (and probably could have sustained a film in its own right), but the rest was absolute hokum.

I don't get Iñárritu, of his films I've seen:

21 Grams - Good, but a bit too much convenient happenstance, which plagued the above as well actually.
Birdman - Bang average
The Revenant - I've seen it a couple of times now and in fairness I liked it a lot more second time round. Just picked up the Blu-Ray so looking forward to enjoying the cinematography properly on my 46 incher (although I understand the 4K version is absolutely fapworthy).

I should probably watch Amores Perros, but I don't hold out that much hope based on the above.

[John]

Amores Perros is like his Sixth Sense. He made basically the best thing he'll ever make right out of the gate.

[Yevrah]

Might need to get More or Less on the case with this one, but that seems to happen more than you'd imagine with people in film and tv.

Damon/Affleck and Ricky Gervais spring to mind without really thinking about it, in addition to shymalayananan.

Do the creative juices get sucked out of these people once they're actually in the industry, or does it take an idea that spunks their load so hard to break down the doors to make it in the first place that they've no hope of that difficult second album being anywhere near as good?

[John]

Presumably a lot of first features are ideas that have been stewing for ages so there's twenty years of thought before that first piece goes into production and then six months of thought before the next one.

[Lewis]

Yeah, like that amazing sitcom idea you came up with.

[Yevrah]

Yeah, like that amazing sitcom idea you came up with.

It was a cracker, but it'll die with me.

[Dark Soldier]

The Revenant is his best work, then Amores followed by Birdman. Rest can get to fuck.

[Reg]

Do the creative juices get sucked out of these people once they're actually in the industry, or does it take an idea that spunks their load so hard to break down the doors to make it in the first place that they've no hope of that difficult second album being anywhere near as good?
Like any art it's probably largely about listening less to your creative instincts and more to business. The 2nd album thing is dodgy though, I reckon it's 3rd onwards that it often goes tits up.

What was this sitcom idea?

[Lewis]

It was about a sharp-witted market trader and his plonker of a half-brother.

[Shindig]

Mrs Broom's Boys.

[Yevrah]

Ant-Man is probably about as good as these things get, but still thoroughly mediocre.

As always, the 'action' scenes were interminably dull.

Oh and the baddie was so so weak.

[Giggles]

By all accounts the new Star Trek is very good, which is very surprising.

[Yevrah]

It won't be very good, I can all but guarantee you that now without having seen a single second of it.

[Shindig]

The poster looks a little too Star Wars for my liking. Its like J.J.'s trying to merge them into one universe.

[Magic]

Has anyone seen The Player ?

[Shindig]

I might've seen five seconds of it. All I know is there's a long one-shot take and Tim Robbins is in it. Hang on. I might've seen all of it. Or maybe I just know how it ends.

I don't know what I've seen or done any more. Is this dementia?

[Lewis]

Platoon is a lot more boring than I remember it being, and it can't even be that long since I last saw it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSzx-zryEgM

:drool:

[Yevrah]

So, Son of Saul. Thought it was a good film, but not much more than that. The opening was absolutely brutal, as were a few other moments, but the blurry-cam and Saul's increasingly rash actions (as understandable as it was for someone to not think rationally in those circumstances) just became more and more irritating and logistically improbable as the film wore on.

[Giggles]

It won't be very good, I can all but guarantee you that now without having seen a single second of it.

I know a couple of die hards of the old films that grumbled about the original Abrams one and then were contemplating not even seeing this after Into Darkness. Both have been more than pleasantly surprised with this.

[randomlegend]

BFG was pretty good, but a bit fluffy compared to the book/cartoon.

[Magic]

I might've seen five seconds of it. All I know is there's a long one-shot take and Tim Robbins is in it. Hang on. I might've seen all of it. Or maybe I just know how it ends.

I don't know what I've seen or done any more. Is this dementia?

It was a bit strange, clearly a clever, satirical film but we nearly binned it after an hour. It was Hollywood taking a comical inward look at itself but a lot of people may have disregarded it was complete pretentious bullshit. Surprised to see it was nominated for Oscars.

[Spammer]

Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition - yeah it was a bit of a mess really. Obviously it's just a daft film so I'm not going to get annoyed about it, but it was extremely bloated. I wasn't overly bothered about what was happening but it was a fun enough way of killing a bit of time, if nothing else. Some of the lines were decent and I quite enjoyed Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, which I was surprised about.

[Yevrah]

The Killer Inside Me is alright I suppose, but I couldn't really shake the 'what's the point of this' feeling at any given moment.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0954947/?ref_=nv_sr_1

[Alex]

Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition - yeah it was a bit of a mess really. Obviously it's just a daft film so I'm not going to get annoyed about it, but it was extremely bloated. I wasn't overly bothered about what was happening but it was a fun enough way of killing a bit of time, if nothing else. Some of the lines were decent and I quite enjoyed Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, which I was surprised about.

I watched this the other day too. I never saw the original cut, so I'm not sure what's new, but I agree that it was very bloated. Not a bad film at all, but nothing special either. The story was all very rushed and slapdash for me. It felt like it should have had at least five or six films leading up to it, like the first Avengers film.

I was the opposite with Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, I didn't like him. I couldn't buy into him at all. I thought Affleck did a good job though.

[Giggles]

So what exactly is this Suicide Squad thing? Like is the one that looks like the Joker the same as the Batman Joker, so it's like a spin-off? It's getting monster hype anyway.

EDIT: Like the Dawn of Justice one mentioned above. It doesn't seem to be s Superman film, so is it a Lex Luthor spin-off?
I guess you need to have read all the comics to get all this.

[Vim]

Suicide Squad is just another DC thing (I haven't read the comics either) where they recruit criminals for suicide missions.

[Magic]

Sounds like something adult babies like Mahow will wet their pants over.

[Sam]

Looks fucking shit. Plus the amount of trailers and leaks I feel as if I've seen the movie already.

[Giggles]

That's the main thing that got me wondering about it. Every day there's something else about it, seems to be the biggest hyped film of the year so far.

So is the Jared Leto character the actual Joker or a sort of Joker copycat? Is there a Batman character in it?

[Spammer]

It's a reboot of the whole universe, so it's basically the same Joker but reinvented.

Yeah Batman turns up at some point apparently.

[Giggles]

It's a reboot of the whole universe, so it's basically the same Joker but reinvented.

Yeah Batman turns up at some point apparently.

The Affleck one?

Speaking of which, I seen a trailer for some film with him as Batman along with Superman, the Flash, Green Lanten, Wonderwoman, etc. In what sort of universe are they all knocking about together?

Gal Gadot though :drool:

[Spammer]

The Affleck one??

Yeah. Dunno how much he's involved but he's on the cast list.


Speaking of which, I seen a trailer for some film with him as Batman along with Superman, the Flash, Green Lanten, Wonderwoman, etc. In what sort of universe are they all knocking about together?

The DC Universe....?

[Giggles]

Yeah. Dunno how much he's involved but he's on the cast list.



The DC Universe....?

Actually, no Superman in that latter one. Was mixing it up with the Batman v Superman film.

It's all so confusing :( I blame the Avengers.

[Giggles]

There also seems to be a standalone Wonderwoman film too.

[SvN]

Justice League is basically DC's version of The Avengers. And Superman is in it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sounds like something adult babies like Mahow will wet their pants over.

I already have multiple times.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Baz]

I watched Me Before You earlier. Aside from it having the worst soundtrack I've ever heard in a film, it was okay. Although if I didn't know from the book, the ending would've been a bit Rocky-like for me. Remember when you first watched Rocky as a kid and it suddenly cuts to the end credits and you weren't paying enough attention to the ring announcer to know whether he won or lost? Like that.

I can't see them turning the second book into a film either. At least not a very interesting one. Girl turns into an alcoholic, nearly dies, meets a worse train wreck than herself, then inevitably fucks off to spend more time with the Kiwi bloke. Amidst all that, her mum refuses to shave her legs any more. Sounds riveting.

Fenwick (Will) has terrific hair though.

[Foe]

Watched Planes last night which was bang average.

[Spammer]

Room

Yep, pretty good.

[Foe]

There's a really solid sports documentary called Iverson on Netflix at the moment.

Good use of 90 minutes. It's fairly predictable, mind. ;)

[Magic]

Going to give The Wrestler a watch tonight.

[Foe]

Sicario was very solid. Feel like it could've been great though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Batman v Superman really is a hot mess. I watched 'THE ULTIMATE EDITION' too which didn't help.

I only enjoyed the last 30 minutes or so when the action hit because that was the only good thing that happened during the film.

Eisenberg was a fucking mess but that was to be expected, Affleck I was surprised by as I thought he'd be garbage, I genuinely hate the cardboard cut-out that is Cavill and I enjoyed Gadot in her brief moments.

[Bernanke]

Wonderwoman actually looks like it could be an alright film comparatively.

X-Men: Apocalypse was not worth the time I spent watching it.

[Spoonsky]

Chinatown. Fu...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37038684

:cab:

Mindy Kaling in particular is such a mental choice.

[Yevrah]

Well I for one can't wait for another round of foul misogyny.

[randomlegend]

I still think these ALL FEMALE spin-offs are a bad way to go about things. There should be equality by way of women just having an equal share of big roles in big films by default.

Doing this makes it feel like they are from the special school and have been allowed by the men to have their own special film.

It feels wrong and actually a bit sexist in it's own right.

[Dark Soldier]

Doesn't bother me one bit, the usual thing of the originals are still there. Its showing a younger generation of lasses that the potential for leading roles in fairly large films are there for them (Ghostbusters being the main example in that sense).

[Giggles]

It's a fucking shite gimmick. Wouldn't watch any of them for diamonds.

[Lewis]

Proceeding from the idea that ladies can't enjoy something unless it has birds in all the main roles seems like an odd way to empower them.

[Reg]

It's a fucking shite gimmick. Wouldn't watch any of them for diamonds.
It will continue seeming like a gimmick until more and more people are bold enough to do it. If more follow then you soon enough won't think twice whether it's four male lead actors, four female, or two each. Which is the way it should be.

[GS]

It's a gimmick. You can disguise it if the film is actually any good, I'm sure, but a gimmick it remains.

[Lewis]

Nobody would think twice if you made an all-skirt (or majority-skirt) film that was an original work; but when you re-boot an existing franchise with one for no other reason than 'women mate' it hinges its success on its pointless political gimmick.

[Reg]

Gimmick or not, it's a decent way of taking a step in the right direction.

[Lewis]

Which is what, separate films for women, whose delicate minds can't ever really invest themselves in male leads? Isn't that the same logic that these people whinge against when toy companies put dolls in pink boxes?

[GS]

It's not, really. It's quite patronising.

Nobody would care about an all-women cast if it was a good film and an original script - e.g. Pitch Perfect, Steel Magnolias etc.

This is, as Lewis alludes to, just trying to reboot an existing franchise and generate interest through 'but women, lads'.

[Reg]

The other day you were saying "nobody is forced to eat McDonald's". The "nobody is forced to" bit applies much better to watching films.

[GS]

How's that relevant? You're suggesting it's a move in the right direction. I disagree. Whether either of us will personally bother to watch it is an entirely irrelevant matter.

[Reg]

It's relevant because you're moaning about it being "patronising".

I'd say it's a good choice of reboot as the original was highly successful.

[GS]

Yeah, because rebooting old film franchises in an all-female format is a bit patronising isn't it. We can't be bothered creating any half-decent new ideas for you, so let's dredge up some decade old shite and slap some lipstick on it. That'll keep them happy.

Feminists across the land rejoice.

It'll inevitably be much shitter than the original as well.

[Bernanke]

They're doing a mostly female re-boot of Ocean's Eleven. That might actually have some value to it.

Then again, it's going to be starring Rihanna and something called an "awkwafina", so probably not.

[Reg]

Yeah, because rebooting old film franchises in an all-female format is a bit patronising isn't it. We can't be bothered creating any half-decent new ideas for you, so let's dredge up some decade old shite and slap some lipstick on it. That'll keep them happy.

Feminists across the land rejoice.

It'll inevitably be much shitter than the original as well.
The first paragraph applies to much of cinema in general. And people don't seem to mind about quality too much. They go and see sequels knowing that sequels 90% of the time are disappointing. They also go and see comic book film number three hundred and one after moaning about the previous three hundred.

[GS]

I think you're missing the point, but it's hardly worth labouring it further.

[Raoul Duke]

They're doing a mostly female re-boot of Ocean's Eleven. That might actually have some value to it.

Then again, it's going to be starring Rihanna and something called an "awkwafina", so probably not.

I think he's the massive striker who plays for Dagenham or something? #BEASTMODE

[Shindig]

We should strike back with a Thelma and Louise for blokes.

"They've got custody of our kids and these superhero costumes do nothing."

[Sam]

The first paragraph applies to much of cinema in general. And people don't seem to mind about quality too much. They go and see sequels knowing that sequels 90% of the time are disappointing. They also go and see comic book film number three hundred and one after moaning about the previous three hundred.

Think you missed the point totally. It's more insulting that original scripts are seldom created, rather that the whole concept of opening up roles for females is by just rebooting the original and sticking women in there. Regardless of the quality of film.

[Baz]

Got the four Bourne blu-rays with the intention to watch all four and then the new one. Watched the first one and it's a really REALLY long film where nothing really happens and the end is diabolical.

Do they improve or should I sack off the plan?

[John]

The first Bourne film is a shade under two hours long.

I really enjoyed the first one, but if you didn't you're unlikely to enjoy the others. I think the crap one with Jeremy Renner is more of a pure action film so maybe give that one a go.

[Reg]

Nah, I understood. (@ Sam and GS.)

--
The Wrecking Crew is a really good documentary about the group of session musicians who pretty much ruled popular music for a period, mostly in the 60s. They played on songs by the Beach Boys, Sam Cooke, The Ronettes, Simon and Garfunkel, The Byrds, and tonnes of others. They were the guys behind Phil Spector's "Wall of Sound" (listen to Be My Baby or Good Vibrations). It's directed by the son of one of the musicians, so it's got a cool personal feel to it. On Netflix for anyone interested.

[ItalAussie]

It's a gimmick. You can disguise it if the film is actually any good, I'm sure, but a gimmick it remains.

Was it a gimmick when it was all men? Or is that more "normal"?

If it's a gimmick, then presumably all-male casts is just an equivalent gimmick that became so prevalent we've all gotten used to it.

[Foe]

Deadpool is hugely over rated. What was all the fuss about?

[Giggles]

Was it a gimmick when it was all men? Or is that more "normal"?

It was an original film then. Just mix it up, suit the roles, whatever. But these WOMEN ONLY remakes of films are a gimmick and are rather pitiful and offensive to women more than anything.

[ItalAussie]

It was an original film then. Just mix it up, suit the roles, whatever. But these WOMEN ONLY remakes of films are a gimmick and are rather pitiful and offensive to women more than anything.

I find remakes to be offensive in general.

The Ocean film isn't a remake though. It's a reboot which isn't pretending to be the same story - just the continuation of a common theme of a group of sympathetic thieves with an elaborate plan to pull a heist, . In which case presumably they can pick whatever cast they want.

And if it happens to be all women, well, so many films have happened to be all men, that just statistically it had to happen at some point. Unless men leading a film is "normal" and women are the exception. Which we've largely been conditioned to think, anyway, but in reality is equally improbable.

[Yevrah]

It was an original film then. Just mix it up, suit the roles, whatever. But these WOMEN ONLY remakes of films are a gimmick and are rather pitiful and offensive to women more than anything.

They're really not.

The reaction to these films should be "oh, that sounds shit a bit shit" (as remakes often are) and we move on. But instead, pages upon pages of discussion is generated. It's all a bit odd.

[GS]

Was it a gimmick when it was all men? Or is that more "normal"?

If it's a gimmick, then presumably all-male casts is just an equivalent gimmick that became so prevalent we've all gotten used to it.

Nobody would care if it was an original concept.

I also don't especially care for publicising the film with "ALL WOMEN LADS", as if that should be a selling point. It'll be irrelevant when determining whether the movie is good or shit.

[GS]

They're really not.

The reaction to these films should be "oh, that sounds shit a bit shit" (as remakes often are) and we move on. But instead, pages upon pages of discussion is generated. It's all a bit odd.

Pages and pages is a stretch, but I did take issue with Reg's assertion.

[ItalAussie]

Nobody would care if it was an original concept.

I also don't especially care for publicising the film with "ALL WOMEN LADS", as if that should be a selling point. It'll be irrelevant when determining whether the movie is good or shit.

Let's not pretend that Ocean's 11 was some epoch-defining classic, the rebooting of which is a stain on our adolescence. It's an excuse for a heist movie using an existing IP.

Heist movies are fun. The cast looks fun. It should be a fun, if somewhat forgettable, movie. Like Ocean's 11.

[Giggles]

Let's not pretend that Ocean's 11 was some epoch-defining classic, the rebooting of which is a stain on our adolescence. It's an excuse for a heist movie using an existing IP.

Heist movies are fun. The cast looks fun.

You are still so caught up in being gender correct at all costs that you are completely missing the point.

[ItalAussie]

You are still so caught up in being gender correct at all costs that you are completely missing the point.

Would it be fine if they called it "Super Fun Heist Film", and kept everything else the same?

A movie should be able to have an all-female cast and have it be the same non-story it's been every time a movie had an all-male cast. It shouldn't be seen as any less "normal".

[GS]

Ital's clearly the sort of lad who would support women-only shortlists, so he's a lost cause.

[ItalAussie]

For the record, I didn't watch Ghostbusters. Didn't interest me. I do enjoy heist movies, so I'll watch this.

I just don't have a problem having a heist movie with an all-female cast. It's clearly a very good cast, and they didn't go overboard in the announcement. They basically announced the cast, and the internet started throwing their toys out of the pram.

Let's not pretend that we haven't been conditioned to think of men in movies as "normal" and women leading movies as "exceptions".

[leedsrevolution]

Deadpool is hugely over rated. What was all the fuss about?

THANK YOU. Only person I know who also thinks this. Massive pile of shite.

[Sam]

What makes you think it's so bad? Generally curious as I've not met anyone who didn't like it.

[Giggles]

For a massive cash-in, I quite like the look of this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdj1zb9sMY

[leedsrevolution]

Ryan Renolds been a proper cunt doesn't help, but I didn't find it funny. The jokes just felt so forced and the trailer pretty much showed all the key one liners.

[Foe]

What makes you think it's so bad? Generally curious as I've not met anyone who didn't like it.

It wasn't so much bad, just distinctly average. I much preferred guardians of the galaxy.

Then again, I've never been a big 'superhero film' fan.

Picked up Room, Spotlight, The Revenant and Creed to watch over the coming week or so.

[Shindig]

I feel like Deadpool's problem is Deadpool himself.

[Lewis]

The original Ocean's 11 was about war veterans, and then the remake tried to play on the 'Rat Pack' bollocks by using George Clooney and all his too cool for school mates, so there were narrative and aesthetic reasons for having an all-male cast. If you just made an all-female heist film, with an original concept and characters, then nobody would care; but if you attempt to ride on the back of existing ones then you are clearly doing so for some pointless reason.

[Magic]

Foe and LR going against popular opinion is hardly a ringing endorsement for most of us being wrong.

[ItalAussie]

The original Ocean's 11 was about war veterans, and then the remake tried to play on the 'Rat Pack' bollocks by using George Clooney and all his too cool for school mates, so there were narrative and aesthetic reasons for having an all-male cast. If you just made an all-female heist film, with an original concept and characters, then nobody would care; but if you attempt to ride on the back of existing ones then you are clearly doing so for some pointless reason.

That's such a stretch. :D

Presumably the reboot of the remake is playing off the same "bunch of cool guys" by having a "bunch of cool girls" for narrative/aesthetic reasons too. As a counter-point, if you will.

Also, the pointless reason is presumably that existing IPs make a ton more money thanks to existing brand recognition. I don't like Hollywood's reboot obsession, but it's fairly obvious why they do it. There's only one bottom line there.

[Lewis]

Then we'll need a cool bunch of Muslims, and an all-disabled one. As counter-points, if you will.

As for existing brand recognition, I find it hard to believe that people went to see the 2001 film because they wanted to see how it differed from a crap, self-indulgent Frank Sinatra vehicle that nobody remembered. They wanted to see Brad Pitt and Matt Damon and George Clooney. So if you did make Lady Heist Movie with the stellar (or at least well-known) cast that has been floated for this then people would go and see it for that, rather than because they recognise the tired franchise.

[Reg]

So people would go and see an all original film because it had Rihanna, Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham Carter. But instead those same people will stay at home because it has Rihanna, Anne Hathaway and Helena Bonham Carter HOWEVER has foolishly dared to ride on the back of the original film.

Nobody gives a shit and it will be a big success.

[ItalAussie]

If anything, the important "theme" that links the Ocean movies is an ensemble Hollywood all-star cast who seem to be there to have a good time.

Turns out, that doesn't strictly require a penis.

EDIT: Lewis, you missed the brand recognition point; it was about the new new movie. People are more likely to watch a heist film in 2016 with Ocean in the title because of the 2001 film. I don't think the original original is really on anyone's radar anymore (I reckon if you polled movie-goers, a majority would think that the 2001 film was the original), but Clooney-Pitt-Damon still has pop culture cachet. They're trying to trade off that by putting together another all-star heist film. In that case, the existing IP immediately tells you what to expect, and improves initial brand recognition. It's all the bottom line.

[Lewis]

I can see the market for a heist film with Rihanna and Anne Hathaway, and presumably advertising exists for a reason. In which case, forget all of the gender politics bollocks; why open yourself up to unfavourable comparisons with what is still, when you ignore the terrible sequels, a really good film? With that in mind, I don't see how it represents a net gain to 'cash in' on the existing brand. It's very easy to say that it is all about money, but it's not like Ghostbusters is doing particularly well.

[John]

Ghostbusters and Bridesmaids have the same director and several of the same stars, and they're both ensemble comedies released in the Summer. The one big difference is that the former is trading on a familiar name while the latter is an entirely new property. Bridesmaids outperformed Ghostbusters at the box office by half. Brand recognition means next to nothing when the pitch is that you're going to fundamentally change the property and just stick a familiar name on it.

[Shindig]

"Sorry, Rhianna doesn't know any jokes."
"Get me Queen Latifah."

Do Fast and the Furious but with women. It'll be the most empowering and patronising film ever made.

[Ian]

For a massive cash-in, I quite like the look of this.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frdj1zb9sMY

Firstly, I like that trailer quite a bit more than the first one. Secondly, and I might just be imagining this, but it has more of a war film feel to it in some of the action-y bits. I hope that turns out to be right because I think they need to do something with the non-Episodes to make them a bit different, other than just dipping into a different time in the canon. One thing I think Marvel have done well with the non-ensemble films is giving some of them slightly different styles (Winter Soldier being a sort of Marvel-does-political-thriller type thing, for example) so I'd hope Star Wars will do something similar with these extra ones.

[Raoul Duke]

This looks pretty good:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFMo3UJ4B4g

[Spoonsky]

Does anyone else find Amy Adams a bit shit? She peaked in Enchanted.

[Lewis]

David Brent: Life on the Road is alright (better than expected) as a standalone film, but - and this is why it is actually shit - the premise relies on this David Brent being so over-the-top and Flanderised that it basically ruins the character, and Ricky Gervais is the worst thing in it.

[Ian]

Just watched Creed and really enjoyed it. I was beginning to wonder if they were gearing up for a different ending but I liked how they finished it. Jordan and Stallone were both excellent.

[SvN]

David Brent: Life on the Road is alright (better than expected) as a standalone film, but - and this is why it is actually shit - the premise relies on this David Brent being so over-the-top and Flanderised that it basically ruins the character, and Ricky Gervais is the worst thing in it.

I saw it yesterday. The character has lost all of the subtlety that made him great. And the forced redemption at the end was vomit inducing.