Film Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There's a pre-set break in the film (at least on my DVD copy) as you have to turn it over.

So when I watched it I had a 30 minute break before diving into the second half.

[Yevrah]

And what did you think of it Mahow?

Most old films I see, while worth watching, just aren't as good as is claimed.

It's a Wonderful Life and 12 Angry Men, I'm looking at you.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And what did you think of it Mahow?

Most old films I see, while worth watching, just aren't as good as is claimed.

It's a Wonderful Life and 12 Angry Men, I'm looking at you.
Exactly what I thought tbh.

Although I wouldn't lump the two films you've mentioned, especially 12 Angry Men, into that category.

[Henry]

Have you seen Doctor Zhivago?

Yes. It's fucking excellent.

[Boydy]

I thought 12 Angry Men was brilliant. I haven't seen all that many classics though.

[Yevrah]

I was expecting 12 Angry Men to be a quite brilliantly structured plot and while it does have its moments, it mostly consists of Henry Fonda saying "but is it possible" (in that really irritating shouty tone that all actors in film at the time used), over and over again.

[SvN]

First time I've ever sen a bad word written about 12 Angry Men.

[Bernanke]

Loved 12 Angry Men.

[Lewis]

To Kill a Mockingbird is the great actually shit old film. God that's fucking boring.

[Yevrah]

First time I've ever sen a bad word written about 12 Angry Men.

Have a read of some of these then:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/reviews?filter=hate

Probably exclusively written by mentalists, but there we are.

And don't get me wrong, I think it's a very good film, but 7/8 out of 10 stuff rather than the masterpiece it's portrayed as.

[QE Harold Flair]

I suggest you all watch 'The Room' together. It's more than worth it.

[ItalAussie]

In terms of old films that really do hold up, I reckon that Casablanca and Dr Strangelove both do the trick.

[Boydy]

I just watched St. Vincent. It's bloody great. Anyone seen it? I'm sure it was probably mentioned on the old board.

[Spoonsky]

Speaking of a bit less than four hours, I'm planning on watching Lawrence of Arabia for the first time this week for history extra credit. I'm going to try and rent out the theater at the student union here to watch it, as it seems like a film that really needs a big screen. But we shall see...

[Lewis]

It's the greatest film ever made.

[Yevrah]

After the never-ending hoaxes we're now only two days away from the actual Back to the Future Day.

http://www.october212015.com/

[ItalAussie]

And the Cubs are still on track to reach the World Series.

If they win (for the first time since 1908), I'm calling shenanigans.

[Yevrah]

:D

Seriously? Is that a really unlikely thing too?

[ItalAussie]

:D

Seriously? Is that a really unlikely thing too?

The Cubs have been legendarily terrible for a hundred years. They haven't made the World Series since 1945, and they haven't won it, as noted above, since 1908. There's a Wikipedia article about The Curse of the Billy Goat, which is worth a quick read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Billy_Goat

Putting them in Back to the Future as the world series champions was a deliberate joke as to how far in the future it was, because the idea of it happening was so implausible.

[Yevrah]

Your edit there Ital makes it look like I can't read. :moop:

[ItalAussie]

Your edit there Ital makes it look like I can't read. :moop:

:D

For the record, I edited in the second line of the first Cubs post after posting, but before I saw Yev's response. He's not just bad at reading things.

[Yevrah]

I know nothing about Baseball, but a quick read of (some of) that and the realisation that they're pretty close to making it does make it seem a very odd coincidence.

[Yevrah]

Coincidentally I've just come across a Forbes advert while looking at Fallout 4 stuff which said this:


CONTINUE TO SITE
FORBES FACT
OF THE DAY
The success of the Chicago Cubs this year has been built in part on their influx of young talent, including players Kris Bryant and Kyle Schwarber.

Have that Ital.

[Spoonsky]

And the Cubs are still on track to reach the World Series.

If they win (for the first time since 1908), I'm calling shenanigans.

"On track" might be stretching it, they're down 3-0 in the first inning having lost Game 1 against the Mets.

But yeah. The Cubs are my dad's team, to the extent that he has a team, so it's bizarre to see them actually doing well. :cool:

[ItalAussie]

I didn't realise that Game 2 had started when I posted. Still, three home games after this. If they sweep those, they'll be looking alright.

[Spoonsky]

I'm surprised you know anything about it to be honest.

Come to think of it, that Lachlan guy was weirdly obsessed with American college sports, even odd stuff like lacrosse. Is Australia big into American sports for some reason?

[ItalAussie]

I'm surprised you know anything about it to be honest.

Come to think of it, that Lachlan guy was weirdly obsessed with American college sports, even odd stuff like lacrosse. Is Australia big into American sports for some reason?
Nope. I don't even like baseball, either. :cab:

Elth might. Certainly keeps an eye on the NFL. The only US sport I pay real attention to is the NBA.

[Browning]

I've just booked Star Wars tickets for my birthday... 2 months in advance. What is this madness?

[Yevrah]

I'm confidently predicting that this will be one of the worst comedy movies ever made.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/news/a674421/absolutely-fabulous-movie-starts-shooting-with-jennifer-saunders-and-joanna-lumley.html#~prAY0I2l6bkiEh

[Magic]

AbFab. :drool:

[Yevrah]

Really?

[Giggles]

Jesus no. That show was horrid.

[Magic]

I'm getting mixed up with Birds of a Feather. :(

[Yevrah]

That makes more sense, albeit still far from justifiable.

[Bernanke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

This is amazing.

http://i.imgur.com/TBnUBJ3.gif

[Yevrah]

Hmmm.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/s155/the-office/news/a674668/ricky-gervais-strikes-a-pose-in-first-picture-from-david-brent-movie-life-on-the-road.html#~prGz2kdAGtlkzr

Does not look good.

[Magic]

Lol @ the people buying tickets months in advance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's not just a few people either.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34571070

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/10/20/star-wars-the-force-awakens-ticket-sales-smash-records/

[Boydy]

Star Wars nerds are the worst gimps.

[Raoul Duke]

Boydy not liking something popular? That's a turn-up for the books.

[Giggles]

I got a swelling watching the trailer.

[Boydy]

Boydy not liking something popular? That's a turn-up for the books.

I like plenty of things, I've just never seen the fuss about Star Wars.

I think it's probably because I first saw it as an adult.

[Raoul Duke]

Yeah, that's probably legit.

I pretty much jizzed my pants at the trailer. Seems like they're not going to fuck it up.

[Magic]

I saw the new ones as a kid/young teen and thought they were brilliant. I saw the originals last year (or this year?) and loved them so rewatched the newer ones. Awful. Absolutely awful.

[Clunge]

I loathe Star Wars in a manner I loathe little else.

[Spoonsky]

That trailer was so good. Probably better than the movie itself will be, though I have high hopes.

[ItalAussie]

I already know I'm going to watch Star Wars, so I'm not bothering with the trailer. It won't tell me anything I'm not going to find out eventually.

[Giggles]

I already know I'm going to watch Star Wars, so I'm not bothering with the trailer. It won't tell me anything I'm not going to find out eventually.

Might as well whet the appetite. It looks brilliant.

[Baz]

I feel like people will like it regardless of if its any good. Because Episodes I & II were so damn bad, people just seemed to decide that Episode III was good. It wasn't though, was it? New one will probably get the same treatment.

[Ian]

I watched Mad Max: Fury Road the other day and enjoyed it but I don't know why there were people getting so giddy about it. It looked pretty swish in places but I'm not sure what the point of getting Tom Hardy in to say about four words was.

[QE Harold Flair]

Back To The Future last night. Hadn't seen it since I was a kid - still original today.

[Henry]

The trailer looks good, but these days it's hard to judge the quality of the movie from them. I do like that it isn't full of spoilers.

I watched Sicario last night, which was good in some ways, but it all felt a bit shallow.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Walk is a pretty good Hollywood version of Petit and his walk between the twin towers, but obviously the actual documentary is so much better.

[Magic]

The Patriot for us tonight.

[Ian]

Unless I go "Oh fuck this shit" and go to sleep it appears I might be about to watch Resident Evil: Afterlife. As much as the first one was a woeful adaptation of the games I actually thought it was an okay film so it's a shame it just became a way for Paul WS Anderson and Milla Jovovich (I'm not sure which was most responsible) to stay in work.

[Ian]

This is already shitter than I expected. And yet I'm not switching off. I hope that's because I have more cheapo beer stocked in the minibar. Not sure what to think otherwise.

It's getting worse as well. For fuck's sake.

EDIT': Have any of you lot seen this before? Is it actually "worse film ever" material? Christ almighty.

[Ian]

Are these even zombie films any more? Or even in any way related to the games?

I dunno how many I've missed between the second film and this one but I've watched this whole film and genuinely don't have a fucking clue what's meant to be going on. And I don't think that's all beer-related/

[QE Harold Flair]

I just can''t do with films which don't grab me any more. I used to just whatch them through no matter what but I'm increasingly finding myself giving up after 45 minutes in many cases.

[Ian]

If I wasn't drinking this awful beer and hoping to indulge myself with an actual lie-in (I'm not sure it counts if you've forced yourself to stay up until 3 to achieve it) I'd have sacked this shit off.

I hope.

[phonics]

Drinking minibar Beer while watching Resident Evil: Afterlife is why these these travelling sales execs charge so much. Last time I was in a hotel for an extended period of time I got hammered off the miniatures while watching an NBA game where the Milkwaukee Bucks were the best team and having an argument with a minor celebrity on Twitter. The places drive you mad.

[Boydy]

Having just checked the trailer, I think I might have seen that in 3D when it came out. It's the only film I've seen in 3D. It wasn't good but I don't think it was the worst film ever or anything.

[phonics]

I railed against 3D for years before finally getting dragged to Prometheus which was absolute shite and I couldn't see the 3d properly (when I watch 3D I see both plains seperately on top of each other). I felt so vindicated. And yet so ripped off.

[Boydy]

Yeah, the 3D was a shitty gimmick and I'm quite glad I didn't waste a good film on confirming that.

[Foe]

Just watched local hero for the first time.

What a film.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So, Spectre...

It's better than Quantum (it would be hard not to) and it's pretty close between Skyfall but I found myself thinking 'What's the point' quite a bit, I just felt like it was lacking in soul. About halfway through I started not to care but I was brought back in by the end. It's a good film but I just wasn't gripped as much as I feel I should have been, I do understand the reviews it's been getting however. A few Hollywood action scenes decided that instead of bordering on the ridiculous they would border on the absolutely mental line.

I think part of the problem is the running length, 148 minutes? Ugh.

[Magic]

The Patriot for us tonight.

7.1 on IMDB? Proper film this. The unnecessary 'comedy' in it knocks it down to an 8 for me and possibly some of the extremely unlikely scenes (sharpshooting with a fucking pellet gun on a horse, for example, and taking out entire batallions of fully trained soldiers).

I really enjoyed it though, would recommend.

[Magic]

Anyone seen 'Unforgiven'?

It sounds incredible.

[Yevrah]

The Eastwood (sort of) western?

It's good, yeah.

If I can stay awake (I'm knackered) it'll be Inside Out for me tonight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I just tried Hot Tub Time Machine 2 as the first was watchable shit, this was unbearable shit though.

After 2 minutes I was wondering why I had subjected myself to this, I'm surprised I lasted 43 minutes.

[Lewis]

I saw Jurassic World the other night and I thought it wasn't bad. The kids were annoying, but probably less so than the original ones.

[Yevrah]

I wasn't a fan. It could have been a lot better.

[Lewis]

Given that you can't really make a film where hundreds of punters get killed, and that we're probably over dinosaurs as a point of interest, it was about as good as 'something goes wrong somewhere' can get. The action was alright, the military subplot was believable, it had some nice nods to the original... How would you have improved it?

[QE Harold Flair]

It could have been improved by not being much better than it was. It was shit. Jeff Goldblum made the first 2 and the supporting cast had some redeemable qualities, basically saying what the audience were thinking regarding the moral dilemma - there is no likable characters in this film. None. No suspense at all, either. Just a litany of people getting eaten, many of whom you knew nothing about. Character development was non-existent, and the only ones you knew something about were so unlikable (but not in an interesting way, like the fat cunt in the first one or the hunter) that you didn't care if they got chomped in half.

[Lewis]

Jeff Goldblum annoys me, so I consider Pete Postlethwaite to have been the least crap thing about the second film, with its tedious parenting (to a suspiciously black daughter) sub-plot and crappy San Diego finale. Yeah, lads. Just stick them where you like.

[QE Harold Flair]

I didn't like the second one nearly as much as the first, but it still at least has a moral element to it regarding playing God, making it better than this paper-thin, plotless car crash. The one thing I didn't like about the first first was the overly intelligent raptors, and we see them even more intelligent in this one.

[Baz]

Started to watch 50 Shades Of Grey but turned it off after less than 20 minutes. Didn't even see any sex but the characters and dialogue was too lame to bear.

[Boydy]

I watched Spring (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3395184/) last night. It's a kinda weird sci-fi/horror/romance mash-up but it works and it's really quite good.

[Henry]

The Frighteners is SHIT.

That is all.

[phonics]

I'm only going off the poster but Youth looks disgusting.

[Ian]

I've got a can of some shitty Egyptian beer and Arnie's The Last Stand on telly. I'm winning at life and I don't care who knows it.

[Magic]

Unforgiven was awesome, by the way. Clint Eastwood going from feared, meanest in the land murderer to loving family man and back again despite being much older really was a joy to behold. He is the fucking man.

[Ian]

I love two things about Unforgiven (I mean, it's a great film but two things in particular.) Firstly that it's all, "There are no legendary gunslingers. Just men with guns. Sometimes dudes get killed. Oh well other than Clint, obvs, that guy is an epic badass."

Also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Da168KXzU

"Yeah."

Not enough :drool:s.

[Magic]

Indeed. Also English Bob is just about my favourite shit baddy of all time. Some of the scenes were hardcore tense, and I thought every single actor was absolutely superb in their role. It was so fucking good, actually.

[Ian]

It's an actual classic. And once I saw it I thought I should be watching more Westerns.

And then totally didn't. I remember reading the remake of True Grit was ace. As well as all the famous Clint ones, obviously.

[Pepe]

I liked True Grit. My favorite is still Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid I think.

EDIT: Wait no, my favorite is Maverick.

[Lewis]

1. High Noon
2. The Searchers
3. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
4. Shane
5. Red River

Start there.

[Magic]

The classic spaghetti trio is where to start.

[Ian]

Until I watched Butch Cassidy I had no idea that there was such a light-hearted, comedic element through much of the film. It was ace.

I should definitely watch True Grit but I should also watch the Dollars trilogy.

[Henry]

I haven't seen that many but High Noon is by some distance the best of what I have.

[Ian]

Arnie barges through a door and headshots a man while tackling him off a roof. What a man.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

From the little I've seen, it's Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

[Giggles]

The Snapper is on TV tonight, haven't seen it in years. The acting is terrible but it's still pretty funny.

Georgie Burgess is slightly ruined now though as I can't see anything other than Pat Mustard.

[Cord]

Westerns :drool:

The best western is a Leone shootout between Once Upon a Time in the West and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. You should also get on some Sam Peckinpah.

Generally speaking, most of the earlier John Wayne/John Ford style westerns are dated and a bit poo with some notable exceptions (I'll allow The Searchers, The Magnificent Seven and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance with a few others). A rule that generally holds is that if it's about cowboys v Indians, it'll probably be shit.

Revisionist westerns from the sixties onwards are where it's at.

[Ian]

So The Last Stand was balls but who cares because Arnie :cool:

Now I'm watching Gamer, and it's proper wank. I won't bother finishing it, I don't think.

[Boydy]

Saw Spectre today. Bit disappointing to be honest. Definitely nowhere near as good as Skyfall.

[Spammer]

Suffragette

Was alright. A bit heavy handed but I didn't feel like a mug for having gone. Watched it in a little independent cinema in the student area of Leeds and people started clapping at the end.

[rush]

I'd agree with that, Boydy; good, but not as good as I wanted it to be and not as good as all the reviews had made it out to be.

In terms of the Daniel Craig Bonds:

Skyfall - 8/10
Casino Royale - 7.5/10
Spectre - 7/10
Quantum of Solace - who cares

[Boydy]

Yeah, I'd put them in that order too although I've not seen Quantum of Solace. Although if those are general film ranking scores rather than Bond-specific ones, I'd knock them all down a bit.

[Toby]

It was entertaining enough, just painfully up it's own arse. Even when they did crack the odd joke it felt a bit, "yeah we're all moody and dark but hey look at our funny side!"

Even if we take as deadly serious stuff from the days before they were, that cold open is among the stupidest things they've ever done as well.

[Toby]

Thought you might have more to say watching it the second time in a week.

[Max Power]

Can only echo the mehs for Spectre. It ticked all the Bond boxes, including the new 'reference old Bond films' box. It has some decent set pieces and looks pretty good but the whole thing just felt a bit stale. Christoph Waltz was massively underused and the ending was a bit lame.

[Boydy]

Yeah, Waltz/his role was a bit crap. And the ending was lame enough that I thought that couldn't actually be it but it was. I kind of felt like it never really got properly going. There were a few big chases and that was about it for the action.

[Henry]

Spectre was more of the same. Great opening sequence, some other decent action stuff, but the plot was a mess which served only the purpose of moving between the setpieces.
Both Spectre and Blofeld managed to be both virtually omnipotent and laughably incompetent as was required to keep things moving.

[Toby]

I thought the opening scene was terrible.


I'll suspend disbelief enough to accept the physics of the helicopter being upside down/corkscrewing etc, but I can't accept that even a must-avenge-M James Bond would wrestle at the controls at the risk of killing hundreds of civilians by crashing into that square.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

During that scene I kept thinking.

Surely this helicopter will fucking stall.

The airplane scene in the mountains was also pretty ludicrous.

[Yevrah]

We should have a Spectre thread.

[randomlegend]

I thought the opening scene was terrible.


I'll suspend disbelief enough to accept the physics of the helicopter being upside down/corkscrewing etc, but I can't accept that even a must-avenge-M James Bond would wrestle at the controls at the risk of killing hundreds of civilians by crashing into that square.

Yeah, that was fucking stupid. The theme song is absolutely terrible as well.

Generally thought it was pretty good though.

[Reg]

Just saw Spectre. I go along with the thoughts in here; it's good, there're some fun scenes in between filler. I'd hyped the opening sequence up a bit too much, turns out I didn't like it as much as Skyfall's.

I think it ranks 3rd in Daniel Craig Bonds for me. Above Quantum and below the other two.

[Cord]

I’m currently watching The Salvation, which appears to be a modern take on a good old fashioned European spaghetti western, except with Scandinavians instead of Italians. A Surströmming Western, if you will.

It’s got Mads Mikkelsen and Eva Green (playing a mute, which is a waste), but beyond that it’s a bunch of fairly rubbish European TV actors doing not particularly convincing American drawls. The sheriff is one of those horribly generic British actors who is in things on ITV, for example. Clearly they must have felt they needed to add some spice to this mix to get people to go see it, so what they’ve done is...cast Eric Cantona as the villain’s henchman.

He’s got third billing after Mads and Eva, and yet he basically in the film in the same way a lampshade or some other inanimate object is. He’s in it quite a lot, in that they keep starting scenes in wide shots where Eric is in the corner staring at the camera, before zooming straight past him to the people actually involved in the film. I’m fifty minutes in now, and he’s appeared about fifteen times and not said a word, or even had a close up. It's top quality audience trolling.

I’m not terribly interested in it as a film, but as the world’s first (and presumably only) western themed Where’s Wally But With Eric Cantona thingy, it’s a fucking marvel.

[phonics]

Is that the one where he gets his arse out at some point?

[Cord]

Is that the one where he gets his arse out at some point?

I've yet to be treated to that if it is this one.

He's just had a line though (well, four words) nearly an hour in! Followed swiftly by him buggering back off into the corner of the next shot, and then following that up by standing in the corner of a traditional 'and now it's starting to rain' outdoor establishing shot.

How he's not received Oscar buzz for this I'll never know.

[phonics]

Turns out it was an issue of Vogue I was thinking of

http://www.thefootballramble.com/images/blog/canto_2.jpg

How metrosexual of me.

[phonics]

http://www.thefootballramble.com/images/blog/bed1.jpg

:sick:

[Giggles]

Well I can't believe I missed out on 2 hours of much needed sleep by watching White House Down right to the end.

[phonics]

You have no soul.

[Giggles]

It was so bad that I kept telling myself it can't be that bad. I don't remember Olympus Has Fallen being as bad, considering they're much the same film.

[phonics]

Olympus Has Fallen is half the film that one is. Simply by not taking itself seriously, it achieved what it needed to.

[Boydy]

They came out roughly around the same time as well , didn't they? Odd. I'm sure I've noticed that before a few times as well, films that seem very similar coming out close(ish) to each other but I can't remember any examples of it now.

I've seen one of those but I'm not even sure which one. Ah, it's Olympus Has Fallen. I thought it was alright, as cheesy action films go besides some ropey CGI. Is the other one better?

[Giggles]

A pocketwatch stopped a bullet.

[Boydy]

Don't spoil it!

[Giggles]

Don't spoil it!

Oops. Spoilered.

[phonics]

They came out roughly around the same time as well , didn't they? Odd. I'm sure I've noticed that before a few times as well, films that seem very similar coming out close(ish) to each other but I can't remember any examples of it now.

I've seen one of those but I'm not even sure which one. Ah, it's Olympus Has Fallen. I thought it was alright, as cheesy action films go besides some ropey CGI. Is the other one better?

One is technically a comedy, while the other is SERIOUS BUSINESS which was my issue.

There are loads of double film projects, they're called Twin Films, normally coming from 2 competing studios greenlighting something on the back of something else getting greenlighted. There were 3 Zodiac movies released in 2007 but you only remember one for isntance. The Prestige and the other magic film no-one remembers being another good example.

[Boydy]

Ah, didn't realise it was so common as to have a name.

[CJay]

Slightly surprised to say I really enjoyed Life of Pi this evening. I didn't know the story well, other than it being a boy and a tiger in a boat, so it was all new to me. The first 30 minutes of scene-setting was rather dull, but it got progressively better from the moment the actual story began. I enjoy films that leave it up to the viewer to decide what actually happened.

[phonics]

I didn't think it did either but the Wiki article goes back to 1938 :cab:

[John]

That 'Twin Film' things happens with TV projects too. It's far more common there for three channels to order pilots and only one of them to actually go into production, but occasionally two or more will make it through.

The most recent example I can think of is a couple of years ago, with two shows based on the idea that fairy tales are actually historical documents premiering within a week of eachother.

[Baz]

I've just watched Dope. Pretty ace film.

If you look it up, don't worry Tyga's not in it very long. :D

[Henry]

Dog Day Afternoon is a tad overrated. Good performance by Pacino, and it starts well, but it gets a bit stolid and boring.

[Henry]

I currently have the following to watch:

How Green Was my Valley
Funny Games
The English Patient
The Battle of Algiers
Citizenfour

[Yevrah]

Which Funny Games is that Henners?

[Baz]

Citizenfour is rubbish.

[Henry]

Which Funny Games is that Henners?

The Michael Haneke one.

[Yevrah]

:cab:

They're both Michael Haneke films, he did a US remake of the original. His own original.

[Henry]

Wow. I did not know that. This is the Austrian one from 1997. Have you seen both? Which is better?

[Yevrah]

I've only seen the US one, which I quite liked (albeit I could see why others might hate it). DS has seen both IIRC and reckoned the original was better.

I'd be curious to hear what you think.

[Spoonsky]

La Battaile d'Alger (come at my French) was pretty good, I thought when I watched it. Hard to tell how much of that was just being in love with all the Algiers backstreets.

[Lewis]

You can't really say that one film is 'better', because it's a shot-for-shot remake, but I think the fact that the original is in some loser language I don't speak (German I think) and doesn't have well-known actors in gives it more of a sense of whatever it's trying to achieve. It's not that good really.

[Yevrah]

It's not really a film (or at least I could see how people might think it isn't), as it only serves to make the viewer feel as uncomfortable as possible.

I quite like feeling like that when watching a film though, so it worked for me.

[John]

I haven't seen the remake but I can't see Michael fucking Pitt successfully pulling off that initial soft spoken menace I remember from the original.

I like to feel unsettled in a film too, but at a certain point I thought Funny Games went over a line from making me feel uncomfortable to being actively disdainful of me for continuing to watch. I enjoy that rather less.

Killers, Dark Soldier, talk to me.

[Spoonsky]

If you want to be unsettled watch Upstream Color.

[Manc]

I currently have the following to watch:

How Green Was my Valley
Funny Games
The English Patient
The Battle of Algiers
Citizenfour

I too have got The English Patient on my watch list. 9 Oscars and Fiennes suggests an epic.

[Yevrah]

I've seen The English Patient, but can't for the life of me remember what I thought of it or anything about it even.

Which I guess suggests it's at best not brilliant and at worst, monumentally dull.

[Yevrah]

Missed it last year, but what an intriguing idea.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a676335/gladiator-live-returns-to-the-royal-albert-hall-a-concert-experience-like-no-other.html#~psy86oQp2TlrDm

[Dark Soldier]

Killers, Dark Soldier, talk to me.

I'll give it a rewatch tomorrow mate, its a bit hazy tbh. Remind me though, is it:

Where at the end he finds the room the nutter has with devotion to his dead sis, body and all?

Just wondering if I'm confused.

Don't click spoiler if you haven't seen it btw :p

[John]

I haven't seen it. Was wondering if it was worth spending a couple of hours on.

That avatar from Man From Nowhere? :cool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

http://i2.cdnds.net/15/44/618x802/movies-harley-quinn-suicide-squad.jpg

http://i2.cdnds.net/15/44/618x802/movies-deadshot-will-smith-suicide-squad.jpg

:drool:

[Dark Soldier]

I haven't seen it. Was wondering if it was worth spending a couple of hours on.

That avatar from Man From Nowhere? :cool:

Yeah it is, checked PTP, I'd rated it (75%) and the trailer refreshed my memory. Its a bit wonky in places, and a tad overlong but its worth the time.

And aye, Man From Nowhere has become a yearly watch, incredible film.

[Yevrah]

If that's a 12A Mahow then lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If that's a 12A Mahow then lol.
It probably will which is so fucking shit, although one would hope that if they did that they'd put a higher rated cut out on Blu-ray later on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WI3hecGO_04

[ItalAussie]

Suicide Squad looked like it might be alright, but they're pushing the Joker/Harley Quinn angle so much that I'm beginning to doubt it.

I'd rather it just be a bunch of nobodies with the same fundamental conceit.

[John]

Yeah it is, checked PTP, I'd rated it (75%) and the trailer refreshed my memory. Its a bit wonky in places, and a tad overlong but its worth the time.

And aye, Man From Nowhere has become a yearly watch, incredible film.

I'll give it a look then. The premise is intriguing.

Yeah, Man From Nowhere is shit hot. That window scene is one of my favourite moments from any 'action' film.


If that's a 12A Mahow then lol.

It will be. I expect it'll be terrible.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Deadpool has given these sorts of films some hope though, purely because Ryan Reynolds has fought the studio and producers so hard to allow it to be rated R in America.

[Vim]

I don't really like the look of Suicide Squad.

[Henry]

Suicide Squad will probably be worth it just to watch Margot Robbie run around in that outfit.

[Yevrah]

So, Spectre. I can see why nobody bothered to make a thread.

Not that it's a bad film, the first 40 minutes set the scene quite well and kept me interested, but that it continues to set the scene for another hour is real problem and by that point I was bored. The situation's rescued somewhat in the last 40 minutes, but how the fuck the film in that state, at that length, got through the editing process I'll never know. Probably the shittest selection of Bond girls as well.

6/10 and that might be being generous.

[Lewis]

Witchfinder General is on BBC2 at half twelve if anybody fancies some classic British horror.

[Yevrah]

Kermode is talking a monumental amount of shit here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5xfbHPcNn4

[Max Power]

They were doing a live show with Sam Mendes, Daniel Craig and others. He wasn't going to pan it.

[Yevrah]

Ah, fair enough. I've avoided the show until I saw the film so did not know that.

[John]

He's panned things in front of people before, hasn't he? I stopped thirty seconds into that because I prefer to listen to the podcast but even fear of making your guests walk out shouldn't have you saying 'this is great' in the opening seconds of your review. He either genuinely loved it or he's lost credibility.

[Yevrah]

He's got a history of being nice to (particularly) British people and their films when they're on his show.

[SvN]

Looks like Ghostbusters opened the floodgates

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/30/9645876/sandra-bullock-oceans-eleven-all-female-cast

I mean what the fuck.

[Lewis]

The gender pay gap on that will be massive.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Godmother will probably follow soon enough.

[SvN]

I'm still pissed off that that obese cunt Melissa McCarthy is in the reboot. The guy who directed Bridesmaids and Spy is directing, I note.

I hope it bombs horribly and she chokes to death on a chicken leg at the premiere.

[Dark Soldier]

Why are you, or anyone else, arsed? The originals are still there.

They're doing a Martyrs PG-13 remake, fucked if I care, I can still watch the original anytime.

[SvN]

I'm not against a reboot. I'm against a shit reboot. That's why I'm arsed.

[Yevrah]

Ocean's 11 is hardly a high watermark in the first place though.

[SvN]

I'm not even a huge fan of the remake of Ocean's 11. That wasn't the point at all.

[Dark Soldier]

I'm not against a reboot. I'm against a shit reboot. That's why I'm arsed.

Ah, that reboot that's shit (despite not being out) because its got some women in the lead. I know moaning is the lifeblood of this place but Christ.

[Yevrah]

What is the point then?

[SvN]

Ah, that reboot that's shit (despite not being out) because its got some women in the lead. I know moaning is the lifeblood of this place but Christ.

I'm speechless. Have you just got home from the pub?

[Dark Soldier]

He doesn't like change.

EDIT: SvN, speechless why? Genuinely wondering.

[Lewis]

Ocean's Eleven is a belting film.

[Dark Soldier]

Ocean's Eleven is a belting film.

The original or the Clooney effort?

[Yevrah]

Ocean's Eleven is a belting film.

Assuming you're talking about the Clooney one, it's good, but given it was a remake in the first place that it's being remade again is hardly worth being bothered by.

I think McCarthy's rubbish too, but people like her, so she's going to be in something.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

People are idiots though.

[Lewis]

The Clooney Friends one. The original would have been long forgotten had it not been a Frank Sinatra vehicle.

[Yevrah]

People are idiots though.

That they are, but I'm far less bothered by Melissa McCarthy vehicles than I am superhero movies, for example.

[Dark Soldier]

Yeah the Clooney effort is a good, feelgood effort. The sequels shit the bed but they're good background fodder.

[Boydy]

I'm not arsed about the women thing but another reason for Hollywood to do a load more reboots of films is shit. There's no fucking originality there any more.

[Spoonsky]

Yeah, ideally Hollywood would be able to come up with an original all-female-lead movie that would stand as its own thing, instead of being inevitably overshadowed by the original.

[Bernanke]

Inside Out was absolutely amazing. :wub:

[Dark Soldier]

I'm not arsed about the women thing but another reason for Hollywood to do a load more reboots of films is shit. There's no fucking originality there any more.

Its no surprise considering Hollywood, and cinema in general, has been doing remakes since pretty much the birth of film. Its just more prevalent now because we're older, and its films we know being remade. Its always happened. Its not like its a brand new phenomenon.

[Dark Soldier]

Just a tad more regular now because dearth of blockbuster cinema due to middle aged faggots wanking themselves into a childish fury over nnnnngggggg Batman and any other comic wank means they populate the highest earners every year, hence studios don't wanna take a big money risk on originality.

'Oh my God Spiderman shot his web in exactly the same origin story for the fourth time, hold my hand Laura, I'm all giddy'

'His Grandad died. Emotion'

[QE Harold Flair]

Still does seem to be a lack of originality to me. I could go on for a long time about 80's and 90's classics which have few modern comparisons. There's a definite lack of a modern Stallone/Arnie/Willis.

[Dark Soldier]

Except they're classics to a bunch of late 20s/early 30s lads who've grown up on them, just as the gangster hits of the 40s-70s appealed to a similar age group. Couple violence with a bad ass lead and males swarm. But yes, our era was the best etc.

[ItalAussie]

Still does seem to be a lack of originality to me. I could go on for a long time about 80's and 90's classics which have few modern comparisons. There's a definite lack of a modern Stallone/Arnie/Willis.

That's largely because people don't want them anymore. The Expendables tanked, as has every attempt at an action flick starring an all-action leading man; even a leading man with classic action film cred.

I'd argue it's because 80's action flicks, while fantastic stupid fun, were one of the least original genres in the history of film. Action hero. Guns. Explosions. Save the day. Fin. Any plot beyond that is largely superfluous enablement. Arguably they're all remakes of the same fundamental film. :D

[John Arne]

The Expendables didn't tank commercially - it raked in $250m and spawned 3 sequels.
It wasn't received particularly favourably by the critics.

[John Arne]

Just check and the three Expandables have thus far grossed $767m, with a $272m budget.

That's mental.

[Bernanke]

That's largely because people don't want them anymore. The Expendables tanked, as has every attempt at an action flick starring an all-action leading man; even a leading man with classic action film cred.

Doesn't MI fall into this category?

[ItalAussie]

The Expendables didn't tank commercially - it raked in $250m and spawned 3 sequels.
It wasn't received particularly favourably by the critics.

My mistake. I must have misremembered something.

EDIT: Ah. The third one flopped, although it did make back cost: http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/385813-sylvester-stallone-calls-the-expendables-3s-pg-13-rating-a-horrible-miscalculation

The second one dropped off from the first, too. I imagine it was powered by the novelty of seeing the big names together, and once that novelty wore off, so did the interest.

[John Arne]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of franchise myself - but they seem to make easy money for the makers. Even the 3rd made $207 against a $90m budget. There is a 4th being made, too - I imagine that it's going to be a car crash.

[Yevrah]

The 3rd Expendables largely flopped because it was a 12A. Which was lovely.

[Magic]

God Spectre was a pointless, disjointed mess, wasn't it?

[Magic]

I've just re watched trailers for Skyfall and Spectre. I vividly remember getting goosebumps when I first saw the Skyfall one. I had no such feeling with Spectre. Also the song was fucking garbage.

[Boydy]

Taken (the first one, I haven't seen the sequels but heard they were shit) was brilliant. Hasn't the latest Mission Impossible been getting good reviews? I'm sure there are probably more but I think decent action films still do pretty well.

[Manc]

It follows was original if unspectacular. The cinematography and score were the highlights.

[phonics]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of franchise myself - but they seem to make easy money for the makers. Even the 3rd made $207 against a $90m budget. There is a 4th being made, too - I imagine that it's going to be a car crash.

That sounds like a good thing but when you factor in distribution/marketing and all that noise. That's probably just about breaking even.

[Yevrah]

Double the cost is the general break even rule, no?

And yeah Magic, while I don't think the film itself was as bad as you do, the song was horseshit.

[John Arne]

That's a fair point.
I read that in 2007 you could add $30-35m for Distribtion and Marketing, so probably about double that in 2015, you'd think.

[phonics]

All I know is we live in a world where Metal Gear Solid Five made 150 million dollars in it's first day and will still probably just about break even. I just don't understand where money goes when it gets this big, clearly.

[Dark Soldier]

Anyone bothered with Goodnight Mommy yet? Its my current bang on about it until someone does film.

[Lewis]

It's probably unfair to compare action film eras. Arnold Schwarzenegger is the greatest cinema icon since John Wayne, so he made otherwise ropey films like Commando and Kindergarten Cop work through sheer presence and personality. Similarly, Sylvester Stallone was a proper film-maker before he brought that clout to equally shonky action films. The nearest thing we've had to that is Liam Neeson in Taken, and that captured the public imagination reasonably well even though it's a pretty formulaic film.

Then again we do have superhero films, the average quality of which probably out-does most of the Arnold catalogue.

[Magic]

Can anyone recommend me a decent horror for tonight?

[Giggles]

Can anyone recommend me a decent horror for tonight?

Because it's Hallowe'en? :harold:

[Manc]

Although not inherently scary, Creep is a film that has stayed with me and one I would recommend.

[Magic]

What's it about?

[Reg]

I like Spectre less the more time passes. I just don't care about the film, it hasn't stuck with me at all. Whereas Skyfall made you want to see it again right away (not that I'd have paid a tenner to do so).


Arnold Schwarzenegger is the greatest cinema icon since John Wayne
Not de Niro?

[QE Harold Flair]

Except they're classics to a bunch of late 20s/early 30s lads who've grown up on them, just as the gangster hits of the 40s-70s appealed to a similar age group. Couple violence with a bad ass lead and males swarm. But yes, our era was the best etc.

That's fine, but what films of the last 15 years will be seen as classics?

[QE Harold Flair]

That's largely because people don't want them anymore. The Expendables tanked, as has every attempt at an action flick starring an all-action leading man; even a leading man with classic action film cred.

I'd argue it's because 80's action flicks, while fantastic stupid fun, were one of the least original genres in the history of film. Action hero. Guns. Explosions. Save the day. Fin. Any plot beyond that is largely superfluous enablement. Arguably they're all remakes of the same fundamental film. :D

The Expendables tanked critically, mainly because it was the same 80's stars all too old by now. It also had no discernible plot. The classics I'm talking about are the likes of Terminator, Cliffhanger, Total Recall, Die Hard etc. They had proper plots, silly as they were. There are no modern comparison to Stallone or Arnie. Even Willis, Seagal and Van Damme have no modern versions.

[Reg]

Maybe Inception? Didn't everyone think that was amazing? I thought it was bit crap myself.

Skyfall probably. At least a Bond classic.

The Dark Knight, Interstellar, Django Unchained.

[QE Harold Flair]

Can anyone recommend me a decent horror for tonight?

Your mum.

[QE Harold Flair]

Maybe Inception? Didn't everyone think that was amazing? I thought it was bit crap myself.

Skyfall probably. At least a Bond classic.

The Dark Knight, Interstellar, Django Unchained.

I didn't like it. In fact I don't really like any of those films you mentioned that much. The best was Interstellar but I don't think it's rewatchable good. Tarantino's best films were both 90's efforts, too.

[Magic]

Went for The Haunting.

[Mazuuurk]

Dark Soldier or someone else - give me tips for a horror/thriller which is kind of in the mould of The Exorcist? By that I don't necessarily mean an exorcism film, but more a scary film that doesn't look to jump-scare you, but is just generally a little creepy, the way that the exorcist is.

Can be something not necessarily supernatural either, like a creepy thriller.

Any tips?

[Dark Soldier]

That's fine, but what films of the last 15 years will be seen as classics?

Quite a bit of European cinema, tastes change. There Will Be Blood, The Master, Django, Under the Skin to name a few.

[Dark Soldier]

Dark Soldier or someone else - give me tips for a horror/thriller which is kind of in the mould of The Exorcist? By that I don't necessarily mean an exorcism film, but more a scary film that doesn't look to jump-scare you, but is just generally a little creepy, the way that the exorcist is.

Can be something not necessarily supernatural either, like a creepy thriller.

Any tips?


Cure http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123948/

Angst http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165623/

Goodnight Mommy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3086442/ (don't watch the trailer, it spoils it)

Shrew's Nest http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3417756/

Creep http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2428170/

Or [REC] if you haven't seen it.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

REC is the scariest film I've seen by far. Ugh.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Have you seen Hidden (2015) DS?

[QE Harold Flair]

Quite a bit of European cinema, tastes change. There Will Be Blood, The Master, Django, Under the Skin to name a few.

No, not in your own opinion. I mean in general. Very few people are going to be citing the European films as classics in the same way as those I mentioned.

[Dark Soldier]

Then I guess we'll find out in 15 years.

[Dark Soldier]

Have you seen Hidden (2015) DS?

Nah, any good?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

That's why I was asking. :D

I don't watch as many films as I used to, I hate wasting 2 hours on something that turns out to be 'meh'.

[Mazuuurk]

Cure http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123948/

Angst http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0165623/

Goodnight Mommy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3086442/ (don't watch the trailer, it spoils it)

Shrew's Nest http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3417756/

Creep http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2428170/

Or [REC] if you haven't seen it.

Thanks, man. They all look fucking scary when watching the trailers. Almost too scary I think :uhoh:

[Magic]

OK this was a terrible fucking idea.

[Dark Soldier]

That's why I was asking. :D

I don't watch as many films as I used to, I hate wasting 2 hours on something that turns out to be 'meh'.

Just yarr Angst and watch the film that inspired Gaspar Noé and is pretty much the best horror film ever made.

[Magic]

That was intense. Has anyone seen The Haunting?

[Lewis]

I quite liked Spectre.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Just yarr Angst and watch the film that inspired Gaspar Noé and is pretty much the best horror film ever made.

I would but turns out PtP is having issues.

[ItalAussie]

There's a little bit of the movie version of this going on though:

http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110522.gif

Except replace emotional vulnerability with unironic teenage machismo. :nodd:

[Yevrah]

Knock Knock was alright, in a passes the time sort of way.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3605418/

[Yevrah]

Man Up is probably the least cinematic thing I've seen for some time and is ultimately bang average, but Lake Bell's character is lovely.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3064298/

[phonics]

The Conjuring is a passable horror flick that get's worse with every moment you think about it past the credits. The acting saves an otherwise pretty poor movie.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

The trailer made it look really clichéd. Is that the case?

[Yevrah]

Yeah, it is. There's nothing new there at all.

I gave it 5/10 FWIW.

[phonics]

It introduces plot strains to make it seem like a deeper film and the film ends and you realise absolutely none of what you just watch mattered.

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Just yarr Angst and watch the film that inspired Gaspar Noé and is pretty much the best horror film ever made.

To say I was disappointed is an understatement.

[Yevrah]

What films that Alan?

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

It didn't disappoint, only 4 other folk in the screen too.

[Lewis]

One question I do have about Spectre is what did they spend three-hundred million quid on? Unless closing cities down costs tens of millions, I'm struggling to see think where it went.

[Benny]

I bet that costs a surprisingly large amount of money, especially in places like Rome and London.

[Henry]

Special effects, actors pay, expensive cars and gadgets, marketing...

[QE Harold Flair]

I don't get the Bond love. No film should have that many incarnations.

[Dark Soldier]

Angst.

It's well acted by the lead but there was no tension at all for me, I was starting to doze off towards the end and it's only 83 minutes long.

:ae:

[Alan Shearer The 2nd]

Took your time. :D

[Yevrah]

Edited better it would have been fine, but after Skyfall I suspect Mendes was given more license than he should have been and the film had far too much baggage as a result.

Also, this homage shit to the older films needs to stop.

[ItalAussie]

I don't get the Bond love. No film should have that many incarnations.

:sorry: It just works. Probably because each one is largely independent. A number of them suck, but you can just ignore those ones. It's a bit harder to write off rubbish installments in a series which relies on continuity.

It's basically a shared spy archetype which carries over a name. As long as people want to watch spies, they'll watch Bond.

[Yevrah]

I think we've all but established that Harold just doesn't like fiction based movies.

[Lewis]

The only reference to the old films that annoyed me was the car in Skyfall. Why has he got that car?