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Sir Andy Mahowry
06-04-2018, 08:51 PM
I do like fried eggs on my chilaquiles. As long as there was no lettuce on them, I am willing to give them a pass.

Half an avocado with soured cream and some cheese.

Probably not a patch on the proper stuff but for someone who has never had them before they were great.

Pepe
06-04-2018, 08:55 PM
That sounds alright, if a bit wankerish with the avocado and the "carnitas."

Pepe
06-04-2018, 08:55 PM
Now I feel like chilaquiles. :moop:

Boydy
06-04-2018, 09:09 PM
Is all Mexican food just some sort of variation on the tortilla?

Pepe
06-04-2018, 09:23 PM
Definitely. 90% of the food is the same few ingredients in a hundred different varieties.

Magic
06-04-2018, 09:31 PM
Worst cuisine.

Pepe
06-04-2018, 09:42 PM
I would love to see what you call Mexican food.

Lewis
06-04-2018, 09:44 PM
Magic taking his daughter to Chiquitos after cinema, nervously counting down the seconds until he has to drop her off at what used to be his house.

randomlegend
06-04-2018, 09:49 PM
Chiquito's is so shit.

Giggles
06-04-2018, 09:51 PM
Magic taking his daughter to Chiquitos after cinema, nervously counting down the seconds until he has to drop her off at what used to be his house.

Before heading home to one of those soulless flats Igor hates that he rents with the few pound he has left.

randomlegend
06-04-2018, 09:55 PM
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g186342-d11491823-Reviews-Jive_Kitchen_Bar-Norwich_Norfolk_East_Anglia_England.html

This place is run by a girl who was in my brother's year at school and her boyfriend. He cooks, she's front of house. They lived in Mexico for a year or so to learn about the food.

It's really great, IMO.

Lewis
06-04-2018, 09:58 PM
I haven't been to a Chiquitos in at least ten years, but they used to do a belting dinner buffet. I expect it inspired all of those 'world cuisine' buffet things you see all over now, run by don't-give-a-fuck Chinese people who periodically make the local paper for charging fat kids as adults.

Magic
06-04-2018, 10:10 PM
Before heading home to one of those soulless flats Igor hates that he rents with the few pound he has left.

I'll be bunking with him in Rugby.

Magic
06-04-2018, 10:10 PM
I would love to see what you call Mexican food.

Go and take a shit and throw some salsa on it then you'll see.

igor_balis
06-04-2018, 10:14 PM
I'll be bunking with him in Rugby.

We can go down the tip and find some preloved knick-knacks for your room.

Sir Andy Mahowry
07-04-2018, 10:29 PM
There's a Taco truck parked just a couple hundred metres away from the motel :drool:

Got myself some asada, Al pastor, chorizo and carnitas. It was all delicious but I think the asada was my favourite.

Giggles
07-04-2018, 10:35 PM
Got myself an Asda meat feast pizza for tomorrow :drool:

Ian
08-04-2018, 12:19 AM
I've been pretty good this week food-wise and all I want right now is a load of stodgy crap to ruin it all.

I'd destroy an Asda meat feast right now.

Spikey M
08-04-2018, 06:46 AM
Go and take a shit and throw some salsa on it then you'll see.

Put it in a taco you mong.

Giggles
08-04-2018, 08:19 AM
Speaking of Mexican, I just came across this. Not sure if it's new or I've just never seen it before but I'm grabbing a bus in there today.

380g chipotle in adobo for under €5, never seen them as cheap here :drool:

https://www.picadomexican.com/collections/all


Anything else worth picking up Pepe?

Pepe
08-04-2018, 01:07 PM
Speaking of Mexican, I just came across this. Not sure if it's new or I've just never seen it before but I'm grabbing a bus in there today.

380g chipotle in adobo for under €5, never seen them as cheap here :drool:

https://www.picadomexican.com/collections/all


Anything else worth picking up Pepe?

Valentina is good on pizza. Bufalo is good too. Apart from that, everything else would be useful only if you'll be using it to cook something in particular. Decent selection though.

Adamski
10-04-2018, 06:20 PM
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/whats-on/food-drink-news/glasgow-chinese-takeaway-launches-salt-14510997

Fuck sake.

Raoul Duke
10-04-2018, 08:51 PM
Fuck that looks amazing.

Spikey M
11-04-2018, 08:51 AM
My arteries are squeaking with lust.

SincereTheRebel
11-04-2018, 09:19 AM
Looks like a heart attack.

Sir Andy Mahowry
11-04-2018, 11:30 PM
Yesterday I went to the buffet at Caesars and whilst it was a bit pricey ($40 for lunch) the selection and quality was amazing. I had quite a few oysters, wagyu beef, prime rib, elk burgers etc etc. I ate so much that I felt I was going to pop and didn't feel like eating anything for the rest of the day.

Today it was time for Hell's Kitchen and I had the living set menu. Pumpkin soup was smooth and delicious, first try of beef wellington didn't disappoint and for pudding I had the lightest sticky toffee pudding.

Ian
12-04-2018, 05:55 AM
Beef Wellington. :drool:

Spikey M
12-04-2018, 06:13 AM
How do you get to Mahows age without having tried Beef Wellington?

Sir Andy Mahowry
12-04-2018, 06:39 AM
By having Greek and Polish family probably.

I'm going to have to make it myself now and then because it was fucking amazing. It was with silky smooth mash too which worked well with it.

John
12-04-2018, 06:50 AM
Lol at living in Britain for thirty years then going to America for some Beef Wellington.

Sir Andy Mahowry
12-04-2018, 07:13 AM
It was at a Gordon Ramsay restaurant though.

Jimmy Floyd
12-04-2018, 10:18 AM
I don't think I've ever had beef wellington. It always seems a bit UKIP.

SvN
12-04-2018, 10:21 AM
I've always avoided beef wellington because I despise mushrooms.

Lewis
12-04-2018, 10:36 AM
I don't like mushrooms, but mate. Try some and see. You don't even think about them.

SvN
12-04-2018, 10:37 AM
If they're in a lasagne it doesn't really bother me, but I've always thought that mushrooms were key to the beef wellington taste.

SincereTheRebel
12-04-2018, 10:38 AM
For the past week or so, ive been eating chocolate every day and what a chocolate it is :drool:


http://images.sweetauthoring.com/product/57802.png


I think it has overtaking MnMs and Yorkie as the G.O.A.T for me.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 10:56 AM
I've never had beef wellington.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
12-04-2018, 10:58 AM
It's always something I've wanted to try (it's blatantly going to be amazing) but I've never seen it on a menu.

-james-
12-04-2018, 11:13 AM
I have also never eaten, nor has there ever been the prospect of me eating, Beef Wellington. Looks pretty banging though.

phonics
12-04-2018, 11:17 AM
It's fine. It's just piece of beef and some pie crust.

Giggles
12-04-2018, 11:22 AM
Never seen it on a menu either. Made it a few times and it was nice so I'd love to taste one by someone who knew what they were at.

Spikey M
12-04-2018, 12:28 PM
This needs a ‘State of the board’ thread.

Disco
12-04-2018, 12:35 PM
Not only have I never had beef wellington (I think) but that deep fried thing up thread looks fucking awful.

Magic
12-04-2018, 12:39 PM
It always looks awesome on Masterchef so when I found out my colleague was putting it on at his wedding really gave me a massive erection, along with his hot wife.

Stunning.

The wellington was fucking amazing too.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
12-04-2018, 12:41 PM
It's fine. It's just piece of beef and some pie crust.

You could say that sort of thing about most food.


https://youtu.be/TE2omM_NoXU?t=117

Have a word.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 02:46 PM
Cooking on Monday for some friends.

Starter: maple syrup roasted onion, shallot puree and wild garlic (provided I can find some in the woods).

Main: www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/beer-can-chicken-recipe

(I know he beercanning does nothing but I've made the recipe before and it's banging).

Dessert: poached rhubarb, hibiscus frozen yoghurt, white chocolate cremeux and shards, blackberries, blackberry gel and granola.

Should be fun :)

There will be pictures so you can suck my nuts John.

Giggles
12-04-2018, 02:57 PM
Sounds nice mostly, but if anyone ever presents me with a roasted onion for any course then they're getting it back across the head.

SincereTheRebel
12-04-2018, 03:13 PM
Cooking on Monday for some friends.

Main: www.greatbritishchefs.com/recipes/beer-can-chicken-recipe

.

Why is the chicken sitting on the table like he isn't on the menu?

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 03:27 PM
Sounds nice mostly, but if anyone ever presents me with a roasted onion for any course then they're getting it back across the head.

It looks great in the book, I've been wanting to try it for ages. It's got a slow cooked egg with it, forgot to write that.

Spikey M
12-04-2018, 03:46 PM
Slow cooked egg. Fucking hell.

Disco
12-04-2018, 03:47 PM
I always lob a bit of onion into the dish when cooking a roast, I always steal it before it's served too because they're delicious. I would imagine cooking them on purpose is even better.

-james-
12-04-2018, 03:57 PM
Huevos a baja temperatura. :drool:

phonics
12-04-2018, 03:59 PM
Don't worry Giggles, I googled it. He means 'Poached Egg on Soup'

Giggles
12-04-2018, 04:09 PM
The snow cooked egg with the onion would change my feelings on the dish.

Magic
12-04-2018, 04:11 PM
How can ya cook it in snow ya diddy.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 04:35 PM
Don't worry Giggles, I googled it. He means 'Poached Egg on Soup'

Soup? It doesn't in any way resemble soup.

Slow cooked eggs are amazing. They go a really lovely texture. They aren't poached really either since they are cooked in the shell.

https://i.imgur.com/Zz3Teid.jpg?1

That's the photo from the book.

igor_balis
12-04-2018, 04:36 PM
beef wellington is alright yeah

Spikey M
12-04-2018, 05:14 PM
Soup? It doesn't in any way resemble soup.

Slow cooked eggs are amazing. They go a really lovely texture. They aren't poached really either since they are cooked in the shell.

https://i.imgur.com/Zz3Teid.jpg?1

That's the photo from the book.

So it’s a boiled egg. Cool.

Anyway, I’m off to put the pommes de terre frites in the oven.

Magic
12-04-2018, 05:17 PM
What a load of utterly pretentious drivel.

What's the recipe?

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 05:20 PM
So it’s a boiled egg. Cool.

Anyway, I’m off to put the pommes de terre frites in the oven.

Well technically it's cooked way under 100c, so it's not a boiled anything...

You get a very different result to a bog standard boiled egg, in the same way you might slow-cook pork and it be very tender whereas if you blasted it for 1/10th of the time at 3 times the temperature it'd be very tough.

igor_balis
12-04-2018, 05:24 PM
when i went to france i had some bullshit crepes that were served with pretty much raw eggs. 4 hours and and the same number of pints later i had the most horrible shits that just smelled like eggs and had to go in a cubicle in a unisex toilet with pretty french girls coming in to piss in the other cubicles. france can fuck off

Magic
12-04-2018, 07:29 PM
I did a Chicken Korai shite this morning and it actually smelled like boiled eggs too. Weird.

Giggles
12-04-2018, 07:40 PM
Last time I smelt anything like my last one it came out of a very sick Jack Russell.

Foe
12-04-2018, 07:42 PM
Smashed some squashes, pretzels and a yoghurt for tea.

Being adult :cool:

Magic
12-04-2018, 07:45 PM
Being gay. :cool:

Magic
12-04-2018, 07:45 PM
Last time I smelt anything like my last one it came out of a very sick Jack Russell.

Your willy?

Giggles
12-04-2018, 07:48 PM
Your willy?

:D

That was a good one.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 09:17 PM
Stage 1 of sauce making done:

https://i.imgur.com/MdVSYAU.jpg

Mmmmm lovely chicken stock

and what was needed to make it:

https://i.imgur.com/Pt6kN3G.jpg

I know Boydy likes a work in progress post, although I'm not sure this one will be quite what he has is mind.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 09:19 PM
Lol at the strategically placed 'hello fresh' card in the background. Anyone wants it I imagine we have a referral link or something.

Boydy
12-04-2018, 09:35 PM
Making your own stock? You're going to quite the effort here.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 09:37 PM
I genuinely enjoy it, so it doesn't feel like an 'effort'. I look forward to it when I know I've got an opportunity coming up to cook something nice.

Giggles
12-04-2018, 09:40 PM
There's no pre made one that can replace real homemade stock.

Magic
12-04-2018, 09:52 PM
Making your own stock? You're going to quite the effort here.

Lol it's a basic requirement for a good dish.

Boydy
12-04-2018, 10:50 PM
No it's not, Hyacinth.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 10:52 PM
I've almost no idea where each of Magic's posts lie on the seriousness/trolling spectrum any more.

phonics
12-04-2018, 10:59 PM
Soup? It doesn't in any way resemble soup.

Slow cooked eggs are amazing. They go a really lovely texture. They aren't poached really either since they are cooked in the shell.



That's the photo from the book.

https://i.imgur.com/QMqseQO.jpg

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 11:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Zz3Teid.jpg?1

Not soup...

phonics
12-04-2018, 11:10 PM
I'm not sure about that, have you got a bigger image for me to really analyse?

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 11:13 PM
I'm really not sure what you're trying to prove here.

"Here's loads of pictures of things you aren't making which are soup so what you are making is soup"

"It's not soup, as demonstrated"

"GoT a BiGgEr pIcTuRe LoL!!!111!"

phonics
12-04-2018, 11:29 PM
I said I googled something and it looked like poached egg on soup and then posted a bunch of pictures of poached egg on soup, you're the one going Sheddy on me about it.

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 11:44 PM
No you said "he means poached egg on soup", which I didn't.

phonics
12-04-2018, 11:49 PM
To James...

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 11:53 PM
Fuck's sake :D

My bad. Didn't see that post at all.

phonics
12-04-2018, 11:54 PM
But seriously now, bigger picture?

randomlegend
12-04-2018, 11:56 PM
Spikeys "slow cooked egg fucking hell" sent me down the wrong path entirely. I didn't contemplate there being two egg-based discussions going on at once. I thought you were being such a spastic.

Giggles
13-04-2018, 05:05 AM
Even I noticed that.

Magic
13-04-2018, 07:01 AM
So up his own arse he didn't even notice.

randomlegend
13-04-2018, 01:07 PM
Been and robbed some wild garlic from a national trust protected area. The smell :drool:

Spikey M
13-04-2018, 01:08 PM
I want to punch you in the throat.

randomlegend
13-04-2018, 01:26 PM
Didn't have you down as a big national trust advocate.

phonics
13-04-2018, 01:27 PM
He's government innit.

Spikey M
13-04-2018, 01:33 PM
What are the squirrels meant to eat now?

Because squirrels love garlic.

-james-
13-04-2018, 01:41 PM
The dish I was :drool:ing at was in fact none of the things that have been posted in this thread.

It was some sort of egg emulsion with truffle in it. That likely sounds disgusting but I can assure you it was excellent. If you're ever in Seville and aren't Spikey or Giggles, you should go here (http://az-zait.es/) and order it (along with everything else they serve).

Spikey M
13-04-2018, 01:53 PM
Me and Giggles will sit at the bus stop with a few cans and a Munchybox.

Disco
13-04-2018, 02:09 PM
Squirrels can eat shit the little tree rat pest wankers.

Giggles
13-04-2018, 06:31 PM
Me and Giggles will sit at the bus stop with a few cans and a Munchybox.

It's a date.

Ian
13-04-2018, 10:24 PM
I'll bring the nerd-beer for me and Francis and whatever you want, Spikey.

What sort of munchy box?

Giggles
13-04-2018, 10:39 PM
I'll bring the nerd-beer for me and Francis and whatever you want, Spikey.

What sort of munchy box?

A large.

Lewis
13-04-2018, 10:57 PM
Can I get in on this?

John
13-04-2018, 11:02 PM
I'll bring the nerd-beer for me and Francis and whatever you want, Spikey.

What sort of munchy box?

You'd want a variety. Salt and Pepper box, standard munchy box, and a grill box would have you well set up.

Although if you pick a bus stop in Glasgow you'll be able to get pretty much any type of food in huge quantities barely contained in a pizza box. There's a place not far from me that does a 'Euro Box', the contents of which include a cheese omelette and a Cumberland sausage.

igor_balis
13-04-2018, 11:13 PM
Can I come too?

John
13-04-2018, 11:31 PM
Is it Lewis who says it's next to impossible to fuck crisps up? I think Kettle Chips might have managed it. In Tesco earlier I spotted that they now do 'Salted caramel and double cream' flavour. What the fuck is that?

Giggles
13-04-2018, 11:34 PM
Tyrrells manage it too buy just being rank.

Lewis
13-04-2018, 11:43 PM
Isn't there some United Nations rule about everything having to have a salted caramel variant? They're probably just ticking a box, since the rest of that moody flavours range sound alright.

Kikó
19-04-2018, 09:51 PM
This was decent. http://i.imgur.com/RdYeBYN.jpg

Sir Andy Mahowry
19-04-2018, 09:54 PM
Which side up did you put in into your mouth?

Kikó
20-04-2018, 07:16 AM
Sauce side up.

Giggles
20-04-2018, 07:18 AM
Got my dinner in a Frankie & Bennys yesterday. Being able to pay with the app is the greatest idea of all time. My local place needs that as the staff are absolute cunts for not coming back near you when it's time to go.

Adamski
20-04-2018, 08:52 AM
What are they like there quality wise? They’re the absolute pits of hell here. Expensive and tastes like it’s been microwaved.

phonics
20-04-2018, 09:01 AM
Frankie & Bennies was absolute dog when I had it. Every other item seemed to have 'Jack Daniels sauce' so you can tell exactly the type that eats there.

Samadini
20-04-2018, 09:01 AM
My friend used to work there, it is microwaved, almost everything comes in plastic packs.

Boydy
20-04-2018, 09:02 AM
What are they like there quality wise? They’re the absolute pits of hell here. Expensive and tastes like it’s been microwaved.

They have, haven't they?

EDIT: Yep.

niko_cee
20-04-2018, 09:05 AM
Wrong thread. :cab:

SvN
20-04-2018, 09:06 AM
Having worked in the kitchen of a cheap pub chain, I now steer clear of anything that isn't a burger or "grill" of some sort. Everything else - pasta, pies, curries, even ribs and chicken wings - were microwaved.

randomlegend
20-04-2018, 09:06 AM
Frankie and Benny's is the worst place I've ever eaten.

Giggles
20-04-2018, 10:11 AM
Oh it was highly average, definitely not shit and definitely not amazing, but I was in an airport.

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 07:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/lULWdvU.jpg

Messed the egg up a bit (white wasn't cooked enough) so just served the yolk which was great.

https://i.imgur.com/anzJ9x1.jpg

Best dessert I've made, was seriously nice.

Don't have a photo of the main, just looked like it does on the link I posted.

Lewis
22-04-2018, 07:19 PM
lol

Giggles
22-04-2018, 07:22 PM
Still not sold on half an onion but they both look class in fairness. Nice work.

Spikey M
22-04-2018, 07:23 PM
Bring back diarrhoea.

Magic
22-04-2018, 07:23 PM
Think I'd bring a fair whack of crisps and nibbles if I went to yours for dinner.

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 07:25 PM
The main was pretty substantial to be fair.

Magic
22-04-2018, 07:27 PM
An egg yolk in a half onion? Get yer starter tae fuck.

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 07:28 PM
It was delicious.

Spikey M
22-04-2018, 07:29 PM
It’s slow cooked, you spastic

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 07:31 PM
https://www.just-eat.co.uk/restaurants-hingham-fish-bar-and-kebab-house-welborne/menu

Here's the menu for my closest takeaway Spikey, something to calm you down.

Spikey M
22-04-2018, 07:32 PM
Looks pretty good. Bet they wouldn’t give me the shits.

Lewis
22-04-2018, 07:56 PM
I'll take their Mighty Meat Pizza over your 'hand dropped muesli'.

Boydy
22-04-2018, 08:04 PM
That egg dish looks brilliant.

The dessert looks good too. Fucking love rhubarb.

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 08:05 PM
Grown by my top lad grandad.

Magic
22-04-2018, 08:05 PM
No surprise given how bitter it is.

randomlegend
22-04-2018, 08:06 PM
It's sour not bitter you fucking mongoloid.

Boydy
22-04-2018, 08:07 PM
It's sour not bitter you fucking mongoloid.

:D

My gran used to make rhubarb crumble when I was little. It was great.

Not had it in years now though.

Magic
22-04-2018, 08:09 PM
It's sour not bitter you fucking mongoloid.

Both attributes Boyd has in bucketfulls.

John
15-05-2018, 07:54 PM
That little fucking goblin Sturgeon wants to ban deals on fatty foods now. I'll assassinate her if the price of my mixed kebab goes up.

Giggles
15-05-2018, 07:57 PM
We seem to copy everything you do there too, so I hope she fails miserably.

Really, is fucking personal responsibility a thing of the past now?

phonics
15-05-2018, 08:27 PM
We seem to copy everything you do there too, so I hope she fails miserably.

Really, is fucking personal responsibility a thing of the past now?

It's not about personal responsibility, it's about finding ways to tax the poor but feel okay about it.

Kikó
15-05-2018, 09:15 PM
We've tried personal responsibility and failed. Now it's time for rules.

And no pizza topped with Doner for you.

Lewis
15-05-2018, 09:20 PM
The slippery slope brigade were right all along. Repeal the smoking ban. Hang Jamie Oliver. Freedom.

Giggles
15-05-2018, 09:29 PM
We've tried personal responsibility and failed. Now it's time for rules.

And no pizza topped with Doner for you.

Failed for who? If someone doesn't have any then they've failed themselves, so fuck them. Everyone should be looking after themselves and keeping their oar out of elsewhere.

Lewis
15-05-2018, 10:06 PM
Remain-voting communist bummers like 'Daws' who stresses that he's 'originally' from Manchester.

Kikó
16-05-2018, 10:55 AM
I resent that. I bum nobody.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 11:54 AM
Failed for who? If someone doesn't have any then they've failed themselves, so fuck them. Everyone should be looking after themselves and keeping their oar out of elsewhere.

Agreed. Need to get rid of that socialized medicine.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:02 PM
Idk how I feel about it. On the one hand, I want people to be able to make free choices. On the other, there's a lot to say people aren't really making "free" choices, since it's heavily influenced by things like income and level of education.

I feel like there's a balance to be struck somewhere in the middle, although I've had the discussion with Consultants who think it's an entirely societal problem and the individuals bear no responsibility.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 12:15 PM
Is any aspect of being alive not influenced by things like income and level of education? That's basically a blank cheque to interfere in anything and everything.

SvN
16-05-2018, 12:19 PM
If fat fuckers are costing a fortune in hospital bills when they inevitably have a heart attack, then increasing tax on the food they eat is probably the right thing to do.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:26 PM
I'm not saying we should be force-feeding poor people broccoli, I just don't think the 'it's their choice' argument particularly holds. The evidence is their free choices are actually heavily influenced towards a particular side. A bit of influence from the other side doesn't seem so unreasonable. I also suppose I have quite a different perspective on 'interfering' to you in that if the outcome is positive and the motive is altruistic then I'm happy to accept minor inconvenience.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 12:27 PM
That's more of a flaw in collectivised healthcare than anything, since people with sports injuries and sex diseases (and loads of other things, like having kids) are also having their lifestyles subsidised. Besides, ocean-going bloaters (and smokers, and pissheads) die young and don't then require any of the age-related care that is the real drain on the system.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 12:28 PM
What does 'ban deals on fatty food' looks like, exactly?

Pepe
16-05-2018, 12:30 PM
That's more of a flaw in collectivised healthcare than anything, since people with sports injuries and sex diseases (and loads of other things, like having kids) are also having their lifestyles subsidised. Besides, ocean-going bloaters (and smokers, and pissheads) die young and don't then require any of the age-related care that is the real drain on the system.

I'd say that it is a feature, more than a flaw, but then the 'what are you doing with my taxpayer money?!?!?!?!' crew gets up in arms about their money being used to help someone else and this shit happens. Tax on shit food doesn't make people healthier, it just makes poor people poorer.

SvN
16-05-2018, 12:31 PM
That's more of a flaw in collectivised healthcare than anything, since people with sports injuries and sex diseases (and loads of other things, like having kids) are also having their lifestyles subsidised. Besides, ocean-going bloaters (and smokers, and pissheads) die young and don't then require any of the age-related care that is the real drain on the system.



Smokers and pissheads have to pay fairly high taxes to get access to their vices, though. Make it the same for the chubsters.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:33 PM
Well sports also have major health benefits so I'm not sure that really works as an example (being a big old fat boi doesn't). Injuries are also an unfortunate risk rather than a fairly certain and predictable outcome, which things like type 2 diabetes are if you're dramatically overweight. People who engage in risky sexual behaviour is probably a better one and I agree it's a fairly difficult and ultimately arbitrary line to draw. But then I'm not really advocating for 'punishing' or charging people for their lifestyle in the first place, I genuinely hope we can do things that make people healthier and have longer, better lives.

I'd be interested if caring for someone because they are old actually is more expensive on average than caring for someone with a bad lifestyle. Given the amount of money diabetes and it's sequelae cost the NHS (I've heard quoted something like a third of the total budget) I doubt it.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:34 PM
I'd say that it is a feature, more than a flaw, but then the 'what are you doing with my taxpayer money?!?!?!?!' crew gets up in arms about their money being used to help someone else and this shit happens. Tax on shit food doesn't make people healthier, it just makes poor people poorer.

Yeah I'm not sure I agree with this particular measure (although I'm not sure whether there's evidence either way), I'm more talking about the general principle.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 12:37 PM
If the 'general principle' is 'fighting obesity' then that is probably worth trying. Some sort of tax on shit food won't help with that at all though.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:39 PM
It was more "I don't mind a bit of 'interfering' if the motive is to improve things for people', but yeah in this case it's trying to reduce obesity.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 12:41 PM
If we offed people at sixty-five (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/01/ageing-britain-two-fifths-nhs-budget-spent-over-65s) we could save so much money (even more so in the future) that we could guarantee a much better standard of living for everyone up to their death date. If the average life expectancy in Britain is eighty-one, I would argue that sacrificing those last shitty sixteen years in return for a vastly improved first sixty-five is the ultimate in collective altruism (no pensions as well so literally everyone is balling here), and that genocide is relatively small price to pay.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 12:45 PM
Equating paying a bit more for takeaway pizza to the genocide of tens of millions of people is an interesting position to take.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 12:49 PM
Eventually people will just kill themselves rather than suffer the indignity of having the police root them out of their homes on their birthdays, so it's not actually 'interfering' as such.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 01:04 PM
If we offed people at sixty-five (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/feb/01/ageing-britain-two-fifths-nhs-budget-spent-over-65s) we could save so much money (even more so in the future) that we could guarantee a much better standard of living for everyone up to their death date. If the average life expectancy in Britain is eighty-one, I would argue that sacrificing those last shitty sixteen years in return for a vastly improved first sixty-five is the ultimate in collective altruism (no pensions as well so literally everyone is balling here), and that genocide is relatively small price to pay.

The viagra lobby will never allow it.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 01:06 PM
All of the cashed-up younger people would need it for their alcoholism/obesity-induced impotence.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 01:19 PM
It was more "I don't mind a bit of 'interfering' if the motive is to improve things for people'

Got it. That's a rock-solid principle. The one society/government is based on. Doesn't prevent everyone for resorting to 'what about my freedomz?' Every time something they like might be restricted though, whether it is gun nuts and their love for the 2nd Amendment, or the pro-abortion crew with their 'my body my choice' nonsense.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 01:19 PM
All of the cashed-up younger people would need it for their alcoholism/obesity-induced impotence.

@Mahow.

mikem
16-05-2018, 01:42 PM
Got it. That's a rock-solid principle. The one society/government is based on. Doesn't prevent everyone for resorting to 'what about my freedomz?' Every time something they like might be restricted though, whether it is gun nuts and their love for the 2nd Amendment, or the pro-abortion crew with their 'my body my choice' nonsense.

Who exactly gets to decide what makes things better to justify that interfering? The problem is that we are not nearly as clever as we think we are and cause all sorts of unintended consequences. All government approaches should be as simple as possible. The poor’s problem is that they are poor and we should just give them money. Instead, we decide we know so much better and interfere on their behalf. We trap them in situations where they can’t share housing to pool wealth, or force certain work requirements, or whatever moralizing nonsense we think is good for them.

Pepe
16-05-2018, 02:13 PM
Agreed.

Samadini
16-05-2018, 03:18 PM
Someone gave me a pack of Piper's today. I'll never buy them myself as it's 85p for a small pack, but they're pretty good.

What crisps have people been eating lately?

John
16-05-2018, 03:24 PM
Those spicy Walkers Strong ones, the jalapeño and cheese flavour especially.

SvN
16-05-2018, 03:28 PM
I rarely eat crisps. I don't mind a bag of Quavers every now and then.

wullie
16-05-2018, 03:30 PM
I didn't know you could still get them, but I found Quarterbacks in that weird brand shop aisle you get in Tesco. Big 10-packs of cheeseburger and rib flavour, stocked up for summer now.

-james-
16-05-2018, 03:31 PM
Those spicy Walkers Strong ones, the jalapeño and cheese flavour especially.

These were very briefly on offer in the co-op near me some time ago. I only managed to enjoy a pack or two before they got pulled, and I haven't seen them anywhere since. A modern tragedy.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 03:53 PM
I've just bought one of those Walkers 'Flavours of the Decades' multi-packs. The 'BBQ Rib' ones are just off smokey bacon, and they come with the following description:


In the 1990s American-style fast food hit the high streets across the nation and BBQ Rib became a new Saturday night favourite.

What? Did it? I dread to think what the curry flavour says (or rather, what it tells me to think).

Samadini
16-05-2018, 04:00 PM
I've had the rib ones and their shitness is only surpassed by the cheese fondue ones.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 04:07 PM
There must be loads of people out there with fond memories of Saturday night BBQ Rib who are loving them.

John
16-05-2018, 04:07 PM
I've just bought one of those Walkers 'Flavours of the Decades' multi-packs. The 'BBQ Rib' ones are just off smokey bacon, and they come with the following description:



What? Did it? I dread to think what the curry flavour says (or rather, what it tells me to think).

The chicken tikka ones have some shit about how Indian food 'took the nation by storm.'

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-05-2018, 04:11 PM
Those spicy Walkers Strong ones, the jalapeño and cheese flavour especially.

Those are indeed brilliant.

Samadini
16-05-2018, 04:12 PM
The chicken tikka ones actually the best I've had so far, but I doubt I'll bother with the others, as I've just been into Tesco and they have massive 'share' bags of prawn cocktail walkers for a quid.

Disco
16-05-2018, 05:20 PM
How does cheese fondue flavour differ from normal cheese flavour?

Sir Andy Mahowry
16-05-2018, 05:21 PM
It's fonduey...

Samadini
16-05-2018, 05:25 PM
Is there a normal cheese flavour? They taste like how your fingers smell after you pick your toe nails.

Disco
16-05-2018, 05:29 PM
You get plain cheese crisps, I'm just not sure how you convey 'melted' as a flavour.

Anyway, to answer the question: I don't normally go in for wanky flavours but those Lime Pickle poppadom things are the business.

phonics
16-05-2018, 05:33 PM
You have to put them in the microwave.

Disco
16-05-2018, 05:42 PM
I haven't got one, this must be what racism feels like.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 08:15 PM
I'm into the chicken tikka ones, and the information is simply 'Enoch Powell was a racist', followed by that dubious statistic about how the Indian economy 'shrank' during British rule. Into the bin, and I'll be writing to Crisps letting him know.

Baz
16-05-2018, 08:17 PM
No TV and now no microwave. Jeez Louise.

Giggles
16-05-2018, 08:20 PM
If these cunts really were interested in 'health' and 'wellbeing' they'd ban the shitty food and smoking, etc. But that doesn't bring in the quids. Lip service and taxation.

randomlegend
16-05-2018, 08:28 PM
Well that'd never get passed. It's not like it's never been suggested.

Lewis
16-05-2018, 08:34 PM
We will definitely end up with tobacco-like warnings and pictures on booze before long, and food won't be far behind.

John
16-05-2018, 08:38 PM
They should probably be using the extra money coming in from the sugar tax to subsidise some healthy stuff, but for the moment the drive to stop children eating shit seems to be Jamie Oliver shouting about cheap pizzas and Obergruppenführer Sturgeon asking what she can do to appease him.

Boydy
16-05-2018, 11:38 PM
Surely the biggest problem with people eating unhealthy food instead of healthy food is convenience?

This always seems to be overlooked. It's easy for Jamie Oliver or Hugh Fearnley-Shittinghall to spend two hours making healthy and delicious food because they literally cook for a living and probably have plenty of free time to do it.

If you're working all day every day and then have to come home to your kids, you don't want to be spending an hour cooking and half an hour cleaning up as well as all the extra shopping you'd have to do for fresh ingredients.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 06:29 AM
People eat shit food because it tastes better, mostly.

If I’ve got a 12 inch Pepperoni pizza in the freezer, or a stir fry mix and pre cut chicken in the fridge, I’m having Pizza for dinner.

What RL said about there being no merit to the ‘taxing shit food impacts on poor people’ argument is utter bollocks though and you just need to visit Iceland to prove it. Frozen ready meals are a quid a pop, healthy food you cook yourself is not. Levelling the prices by increasing the price of the cheaper option is, quite fucking obviously, going to hit people that are struggling. You don’t need a research paper to work that out.

randomlegend
17-05-2018, 08:06 AM
People eat shit food because it tastes better, mostly.

If I’ve got a 12 inch Pepperoni pizza in the freezer, or a stir fry mix and pre cut chicken in the fridge, I’m having Pizza for dinner.

What RL said about there being no merit to the ‘taxing shit food impacts on poor people’ argument is utter bollocks though and you just need to visit Iceland to prove it. Frozen ready meals are a quid a pop, healthy food you cook yourself is not. Levelling the prices by increasing the price of the cheaper option is, quite fucking obviously, going to hit people that are struggling. You don’t need a research paper to work that out.

That's not what I said at all?

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 08:15 AM
Yeah I'm not sure I agree with this particular measure (although I'm not sure whether there's evidence either way), I'm more talking about the general principle.

In response to Pepe saying ‘taxing shit food makes poor people poorer’.

randomlegend
17-05-2018, 08:20 AM
I was saying I don't know if there's evidence that it actually improves people's health - maybe if crap, convenient food is too expensive people start cooking more again. Maybe they just struggle more. I have no idea.

It obviously disproportionately impacts poorer people.

I've seriously no idea how you came to the conclusion that what you said is what I meant given what you've quoted.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 08:23 AM
I was saying I don't know if there's evidence that it actually improves people's health - maybe if crap, convenient food is too expensive people start cooking more again. Maybe they just struggle more. I have no idea.

It obviously disproportionately impacts poorer people.

I've seriously no idea how you came to the conclusion that what you said is what I meant given what you've quoted.

You said you’re not sure you agree. Well, it’s pretty simple; cheap food is cheap, expensive food isn’t. If cheap food is no longer cheap then.......

randomlegend
17-05-2018, 08:27 AM
Other food is cheap. Ingredients for something like a week's worth of Shepherds Pie are not expensive at all - I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's cheaper than buying ready meals and shit. But then you obviously have to cook.

Still, I have no idea how you got from "I'm not sure I agree with this measure" to saying I said the argument it will impact poor people "has no merit". It's not even remotely close to the same thing.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 08:32 AM
You’re wrong. Mince, potatoes and herbs/ready made mix for a couple of days dinner is about a fiver alone. That’s 5 pizzas or ready meals. The shite Iceland flog at basement prices is far cheaper than anything you can knock together that can be considered ‘healthy’.

In reality the only way taxing ready meals can work is if that money is then used to subsidise fresh food, but I don’t see that happening.

Anyway, if I’ve got the wrong end of the stick with your point, then fair enough.

randomlegend
17-05-2018, 08:35 AM
You’re wrong. Mince, potatoes and herbs/ready made mix for a couple of days dinner is about a fiver alone. That’s 5 pizzas or ready meals

Fair enough, I've never been to iceland I don't think.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 08:36 AM
Good call.

SvN
17-05-2018, 08:37 AM
Potatoes are about a quid for a million kilos. Dried herbs are ridiculously cheap if you buy supermarket branded stuff.

Mince is fairly expensive, but if you're willing to grind it yourself (my mum used to when we were fairly poor), again, it's pretty reasonable because you just buy the cheap crap that you wouldn't normally eat otherwise.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 08:40 AM
Which defeats the point, surely? If you’re going to use the cheap crap then you just buy a frozen Shepherds pie for a quid.

SvN
17-05-2018, 08:48 AM
Cheap cuts of meant aren't necessarily shit. They they need prep work, and are only suitable for stuff like stews, pies, etc.

Giggles
17-05-2018, 08:57 AM
Cheap cuts of meant aren't necessarily shit. They they need prep work, and are only suitable for stuff like stews, pies, etc.

All that shit has gone fashionable now and is very hard to get cheap.

phonics
17-05-2018, 09:01 AM
I eat like shit because I can't be arsed cooking after work. I'd like to think that would change if I had other people in my life that I cared about but for now, as a lonely single person, I will live with my filth.

John
17-05-2018, 10:05 AM
I've just been informed by an article on Sturgeon's pizza crusade that Jamie Oliver is worth four hundred million quid. :cab: When the fuck did that happen?

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 10:06 AM
Every house wife in the country owns his book collection.

Disco
17-05-2018, 11:26 AM
He has a big range of various foodstuffs too, very little of it with his name on.

phonics
17-05-2018, 11:33 AM
And he owns a hundred restaurants or whatever.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 11:37 AM
Did his restaurants all go down the shitter and get bought out?

John
17-05-2018, 11:38 AM
I'm well aware that he has various concerns, but fucking four hundred million? That's more than Beyonce.

hfswjyr
17-05-2018, 11:38 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/feb/16/not-so-fresh-why-jamie-oliver-restaurants-lost-their-bite

Restaurants are losing money and costing him personally.
Article gives a nice breakdown of his wealth as well.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 11:39 AM
Did his restaurants all go down the shitter and get bought out?

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/business/business-news/jamies-italian-trouble-715m-debts-14278177

Not quite, but losing a shit tonne.

Spikey M
17-05-2018, 11:42 AM
I'm well aware that he has various concerns, but fucking four hundred million? That's more than Beyonce.

It’s amazing what ruining school dinners can do for you.

wullie
17-05-2018, 12:42 PM
We've got two Jamie Oliver books in the kitchen that I've never seen used, also three Nigellas and a Gino. Ordered a Papa Johns on Friday.

Lewis
17-05-2018, 02:27 PM
I lolled at him blaming God's own Brexit for it, rather than people just having more choice and information than ever and using it to avoid his crap restaurants.

Mazuuurk
17-05-2018, 03:03 PM
I remember going to Jamies Italian in London when it was one of the first one and was still a bit cool, and that was a great Restaurant experience then.

Been 2 or 3 times since in various other places and it's been worse and worse every time since then.

niko_cee
17-05-2018, 04:35 PM
His Italian or Fifteen?

The latter was quite good. The chain ones are ok, but are quite pricey considering the market I assume they are pitching themselves at, and I imagine they overspec the menu too much (lol Brexit) to be a functioning chain restaurant (if such a thing exists).

Raoul Duke
17-05-2018, 07:53 PM
Just booked into here for our anniversary: http://www.clubgascon.com/about.php :drool: Gonna go for the tasting menu with wine pairing.

Pepe
18-05-2018, 12:43 PM
That's the kind of stuff they should be taxing the fuck out of.

randomlegend
18-05-2018, 12:46 PM
Just booked into here for our anniversary: http://www.clubgascon.com/about.php :drool: Gonna go for the tasting menu with wine pairing.

:drool:

Don't listen to the plebs.

phonics
18-05-2018, 12:58 PM
I don't know what these places obsession with duck is. It's shit.

niko_cee
18-05-2018, 12:58 PM
I used to go to lectures near there and that place always looked very flash.

Pepe
18-05-2018, 01:04 PM
Duck is an improved chicken.

randomlegend
18-05-2018, 01:05 PM
I don't know what these places obsession with duck is. It's shit.

I'm not sure you've made a single post this week that isn't wrong.

phonics
18-05-2018, 01:09 PM
Gamey stuff in general is wank.

Sir Andy Mahowry
18-05-2018, 01:11 PM
What a mong.

AyDee
18-05-2018, 01:16 PM
Duck is amazing. Cooked some duck breasts for the first time last Sunday and, despite slightly overcooking them (i.e. medium), they were awesome.

randomlegend
18-05-2018, 01:16 PM
I've got a BBQ tomorrow at one of the girl's workmates' house. We are on desserts. I'm not sure why she's decided we need to take three different ones given there's only ten people, but I like the opportunity to make stuff so I won't complain.

Doing a lemon tart, chocolate and ale cake and some little individual white chocolate, chilli and passion fruit cakes.

Prolly some ice cream as well.

Ian
18-05-2018, 04:27 PM
Duck is the bomb.

Boydy
18-05-2018, 04:32 PM
I'm not sure you've made a single post this week that isn't wrong.

:D

I was going to post something very similar after reading phonics' post.

Spikey M
18-05-2018, 04:45 PM
When I agree with RL on something food related (as with James on anything music related) you know a universal truth has been found.

Duck is fucking phenomenal.

Giggles
18-05-2018, 04:48 PM
James on music? Christ, RL isn't that bad.

Disco
18-05-2018, 04:49 PM
Duck is great, the least gamey game bird, fresher the better.

randomlegend
18-05-2018, 05:00 PM
I'm not actually a complete food snob, I will definitely indulge in the odd takeaway pizza or other shit and thoroughly enjoy it.

The stuff I post in here I personally enjoy more, but it's basically a different thing.

Kikó
18-05-2018, 05:26 PM
I had duck on Tuesday and basically fuck off phonics.

igor_balis
18-05-2018, 05:47 PM
Duck is neither shit nor amazing. It's fine. x

Shindig
23-05-2018, 08:02 PM
Went into a restaurant in town and had some black pudding with goats cheese and caramelised onions. It was amazing and I want to put something like that together.

John
24-05-2018, 02:55 PM
These were very briefly on offer in the co-op near me some time ago. I only managed to enjoy a pack or two before they got pulled, and I haven't seen them anywhere since. A modern tragedy.

Tesco have them on offer for a quid a bag at the moment.

Giggles
24-05-2018, 05:14 PM
Those Walkers Max Strong chicken wing crisps are nice.

Alan Shearer The 2nd
24-05-2018, 05:32 PM
How can you not like duck or game?

What I resent with venison is most producers diluting the flavour of burgers, sausages etc. with pork and what not. Highland game venison burgers and sausages are only about 60% and 50% venison.

Asda used to do their own venison burgers that were over 90% venison and they were phenomenal.

randomlegend
13-06-2018, 09:35 PM
Muscle Food sent me some 'protein cheese' with my latest order.

It's a bit of a different texture, but it's far from as dreadful as I expected.

Lewis
13-06-2018, 09:59 PM
My guess on the texture would be like cheese but with sand in it, like every other protein-enhanced thing available.

randomlegend
13-06-2018, 10:19 PM
Nah it's not, it's just a bit drier but it's not sandy.

-james-
13-06-2018, 10:36 PM
I was pleasantly surprised by vegan cheese. I mean, calling it cheese is a lie but its perfectly serviceable on a burger or a pizza.

Mazuuurk
14-06-2018, 09:13 AM
We're all dying for some perfectly serviceable pizza

Spikey M
14-06-2018, 11:27 AM
My daughter had cows milk intolerance as a baby (thank fuck she grew out of that) and we bought her some Vegan Cheese. It was made with coconut milk and smelt like sick. It’s as serviceable as Mahows cock.

Boydy
14-06-2018, 11:28 AM
You've smelt parmesan, right?

Disco
14-06-2018, 11:32 AM
Non dairy cheese is really hit and miss, we only ever found one that was in any way edible.

Mazuuurk
14-06-2018, 12:01 PM
You've smelt parmesan, right?


Yes, it's crucial when making Cacio e Pepe pasta :dc:

Boydy
14-06-2018, 12:16 PM
Don't get me wrong, it's great. But it still smells like vomit.

Spikey M
14-06-2018, 12:40 PM
You've smelt parmesan, right?

It tasted like it smelt.

Sir Andy Mahowry
22-06-2018, 06:43 PM
Ribs (with sausage, chicken and roast pork as it was a sampler plate type thing) in Prague for lunch and ribs again in 'Dolni Vestonice' for dinner.

Both were fucking amazing.