Sleep

[Manc]

To be truly satisfied I require a solid nine hours, whereas in reality I'm scraping by on seven.

I'll also throw out there my ownership of an eye mask, which has since become an essential aid.

How much sleep do you get?

[Benny]

Seven hours on average, but I can get by on about six.

[Adamski]

9 hours is way too much to feel the benefit from.

6-7 does me.

[John]

If I don't bother to set an alarm I can sleep for ten hours no problem, but I can function pretty well on about five/six.

[Serj]

Anything lower than six will leave me feeling like crap for most of the day usually. Though I feel it's not only about the total amount of time slept, but also about how long I'm able to sleep continuously. I recently moved into a new apartment and in the autumn/winter apparently the heating pipes in the walls here start cracking at around 5.30. Wakes me up more often than not, and leaves me a grumpy bastard for the following day, even if I fall asleep after that. :moop:

[Spammer]

7-8 for me.

I heard they did a study where they forced people to sleep 5-6 hours per night for a while. Before too long they started to feel used to it and feel fine, but it turned out that even though they felt fine their cognitive functioning was at a lower level than it was on full 8 hours' sleep

[Davgooner]

Lots of discussion here this week about this sort of thing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lumie-Bodyclock-STARTER-Wake-Up-Features/dp/B002TEXEAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446804355&sr=8-1&keywords=wake-up+light

Anyone use one?

[Henry]

8 is what I need, but I frequently find myself not getting it and having to catch up with 9/10 hours, usually at the weekends.

Went on holidays a few weeks back and the solution to all issues according to everyone else seemed to be to "get up early", including a 3.30am start before going to the airport and also while on holiday after being out drinking the night before.
I was lolled at for objecting. I'm not sure how people survive on so little.

[SvN]

Lots of discussion here this week about this sort of thing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lumie-Bodyclock-STARTER-Wake-Up-Features/dp/B002TEXEAI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446804355&sr=8-1&keywords=wake-up+light

Anyone use one?
My wife has one but as she gets up 3 hours earlier than me, isn't allowed to use it.

[John]

8 is what I need, but I frequently find myself not getting it and having to catch up with 9/10 hours, usually at the weekends.

Went on holidays a few weeks back and the solution to all issues according to everyone else seemed to be to "get up early", including a 3.30am start before going to the airport and also while on holiday after being out drinking the night before.
I was lolled at for objecting. I'm not sure how people survive on so little.

You don't 'catch up' on sleep. You'll sleep longer because you're tired, but you're not really getting back the two hours that you missed earlier in the week.

[Giggles]

I'm sleeping fuck all lately. I'm trying to compensate by going to bed by 11pm but I'm waking every morning at around 5am even though my alarm is set for 7.

I was fine on 4-6 hours for years but I'm too old now and really feeling the lack of it.

[Byron]

6-7 hours is the norm for me and I'm so used to it that on the days I sleep longer I feel more tired

[niko_cee]

Not enough.

I have no recollection of the last time I managed to go from midnight to 6am without having to get up.

[Cord]

I sleep for about six to six and a half hours. I am slightly zombified throughout work, but I had a little experiment with sleeping longer and I felt bugger all difference, so I would rather make the most of my evenings. By watching Lethal Weapon 3 for the fiftieth time on ITV4.

[randomlegend]

Not sleeping enough (7-8 hours a night and research shows this really isn't very variable between people at all) is genuinely bad for your long term health. Increases your risk of all sorts of things.

[Boydy]

I wish I could as tired at night as I seem to be when my alarm goes off in the morning.

I'm terrible at going to bed at a reasonable time at night but once I'm asleep, I could go on all day. My typical-ish hours at probably somewhere between 1-2am - 8-9am at the minute. But then some days I just fall asleep again in the mornings and don't get up till early afternoon. Getting out of bed is hard.

[randomlegend]

Are you on the computer before bed?

Install flux and if possible spend an hour before sleeping without artificial light (reading light is OK).

[Henry]

Flux sounds good. Might get that.

[Boydy]

Are you on the computer before bed?

Install flux and if possible spend an hour before sleeping without artificial light (reading light is OK).

Yeah, my sleep hygiene is terrible.

I'll give that a go. Cheers.

[randomlegend]

I had to uninstall flux because it was too good at making me tired at night. I think it's genuinely really good.

Looks a bit weird at first but you quickly forget about it.

[Boydy]

Got it installed now. Is it going to have my screen that weird reddish colour as soon as it's dark? I don't want to be tired by 7pm.

[John]

Yes, but you can disable it for an hour at a time.

[Toby]

You can change the settings so that matches whatever cycle you want. There's also a "movie mode" that disables it for two and half hours.

[John]

Can you set up a schedule manually?

I know you can change your location and get a new schedule that way, but setting up a custom schedule would be lovely.

[Toby]

The Mac version may be a little different, but it let me set what time I want to sleep, what time I get up etc.

[Sam]

Generally between 4-5 most nights. I usually wake up quite a lot in my sleep.

Take for example last night, went to bed at 1am, woke up at 4am, attempted to sleep till about 5am before finally nodding off and waking up at 6:30am to go to the gym. Functioning pretty perfectly on this, heh.

[Giggles]

The Mrs uses Twilight on her phone and found it pretty good too.

[Boydy]

The Mrs uses Twilight on her phone and found it pretty good too.

I was just about to ask if there's a phone version as I'm terrible for using it in bed as well.

[Jimmy Floyd]

One of the tragedies of human life is only wanting to be asleep when we aren't.

[Spammer]

Jimmy Philosofloyd

[SvN]

I can't wait for "them" to invent a pill that negates the need for sleep.

[Toby]

Bloody weirdo.

[Pepe]

Go to bed at ten, wake up at seven (six during the weekend.) I am a beast at sleeping.

[Waffdon]

I'm knackered most days tbh. Need more than eight.

[Spammer]

I went through a phase where I tried polyphasic sleep when I was 18 after reading this (http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2005/10/polyphasic-sleep/)blog series. Didn't last long. I felt good for a couple of days but at night it was just impossible to get up. Interesting shit though.

[John]

'Personal Development for Smart People'.

:D

[Pepe]

Is that the one Kramer tried?

[Boydy]

I remember Thisism, Thatism talking about trying that. I don't know if he actually did it though.

Shame he never came back.

[Pepe]

I think the one Kramer tried is called uberman sleep schedule or something like that actually.

[Spammer]

I think the one Kramer tried is called uberman sleep schedule or something like that actually.

Yeah Uberman is the most extreme version of it, where you sleep for 30 mins every 6 hours or something. There's a few different types though. Uberman is what I tried (and failed). I was only 18 though; I reckon I could do better if I tried it again although I have a job now so can't really get away with doing weird shit like that anymore.

Types of polyphasic sleep (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphasic_sleep#Claimed_sleep_patterns)

[Pepe]

I see. The idea of spending less time sleeping is tempting until I realize how much of my awake time I waste. If I had a few more hours every day, I would not do anything productive with them. I think I rather sleep.

[simon]

I can't wait for "them" to invent a pill that negates the need for sleep.

I can't. I'd be so fucking bored.

I get about 8-9 usually and feel great about that. I can function on 5-6 hours no problem, but I don't like to make a habit out of it.

[SvN]

You sleep to relieve boredom? You must live a fun life.

[Lewis]

I think I've said it before, but if TT was still posting Spoonsky would follow him around like a starving cat.

[simon]

You sleep to relieve boredom? You must live a fun life.

No, but I've done lots of all nighters and there comes a time where you just run out of things to read/watch/do.

[Lewis]

Plus one for the anti-sleeping pills. I expect I would just spend the extra time on here, but still.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Pepe]

I can't wait for "them" to invent a pill that negates the need for sleep.


Plus one for the anti-sleeping pills. I expect I would just spend the extra time on here, but still.

I hope you enjoy your 20 hour workday. Well SvN, Lewis would just win more TTH awards.

[Boydy]

I hope you enjoy your 20 hour workday. Well SvN, Lewis would just win more TTH awards.

Exactly, there's no way the extra time would just be free time. Employers would demand more of your time. Fuck that.

[Spoonsky]

I can function well enough on six hours, but it's not exactly fun if it happens for more than a couple days in a row. Eight is the ideal. I am absolutely horrible at going to bed early, though, and it's a big flaw of mine because I do feel the difference even if I'm in bed by 10:30.

Sleeping is really enjoyable for me (the periods falling in and out of sleep are probably the most pleasurable part of the day) and I like dreams as well so I wouldn't want to do away with sleep entirely, but I do wish there was a way for it to happen outside the 24-hour schedule.

[Lewis]

That reminds me: lol at Mahow thinking he can control his dreams.

[mugbull]

Was supposed to go surfing for the first time early this morning, but I slept through it. :(

Fuck sleep