The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Ian]

It would be very WWE if they went into the night halving the number of world champions and managed end up with non active for a bit.

Unless they're going to do another new belt which would be absolutely baffling.

[Ben]

Was the main event cut short? Some screenshots make Roman Reigns' arm look like he properly fucked it up.

12 minutes is about Brock’s limit isn’t it?

[Browning]

The only reason I don't think Reigns can be injured is because surely if it was.... you call an audible and let Brock win. Unless of course Brock is done (but that doesn't seem to be the case).

But yea... that didn't seem like the planned finish, at all.

[Shindig]

I think they would've announced something by now if his arm was crocked. Unless he's going to drop it in a squash on Raw or something.

[Ian]

He should drop both belts to Veer tonight.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really liked Mania and thought it was the best in a while.

I also called that the Zayn/Knoxville fight would be the best match of the event and for me it was. It was everything I wanted and more.

The PPV/PLE might have been low on technical wrestling (and when they tried it with Edge it was boring) but it was really entertaining.

[phonics]

Oh, I stand corrected.

So which were the good ("good") bits of Wrestlemania people are being too miserable about?

Also I look forward to you never again criticising anything which is meant to be fun.

Specifically to you, the Jackass bit was fun. To Ben, who described the best Mania in something like 8-10 years as Garbage? I just don't get it. It wasn't a technical masterclass. Nor was X7. But it put a smile on my face. I was thoroughly Sports Entertained.

[Ben]

I don’t like sports entertainment really. I only come in here because it doubles up as a general wrestling thread.

[phonics]

I think wrestling is at it's best when it's doing both hence why I liked this era of AEW prior to Punk and Daniel Son coming in. You'd have Ray Fenix and Pac have a banger and then you'd have Matt Hardy being dumped in a swimming pool and being baptised and reborn as his various characters up to and including various Matt Facts popping up on screen or Jericho and MJF doing a broadway show. It's dumb. Wrestling is at it's best when it's Panto meets big blokes smashing each other.

edit: When I got into it a big spooky undead man was having a fight with his brother who wore a mask and spoke through a voice box because the spooky undead man had killed his parents in a fire and a guy who wore a gnarled mask because he was a freak was also a 70s hippy and Stone Cold Steve Austin was hitting vince mcmahon with a piss pan and asking for a 'price check on a jackass' while bowling Booker T through a pile of melons. Wrestling is dumb. That's why its great.

[Shindig]

I'll agree with that. They can't kill each other for our amusement any more so I'll gladly take the dumb. Not that I watch much these days.

[Browning]

Can I have my gimmick of being the most miserable back soon?

[Disco]

It should be clear by now that you don't watch WWE for great wrestling, it happens occasionally but they're much better at all the mad pantomime stuff.

[Ian]

Specifically to you, the Jackass bit was fun. To Ben, who described the best Mania in something like 8-10 years as Garbage? I just don't get it. It wasn't a technical masterclass. Nor was X7. But it put a smile on my face. I was thoroughly Sports Entertained.

I'm not interested in Jackass so I skipped it and that was the extent of my comment on it.

Specifically because I don't want to watch something I know I'll not enjoy and then whine about it. (I'll concede the point on the Edge match because I was really hoping AJ would get something out of him and for about three minutes I thought he was going to.)

Why Ben is tuning in if he hasn't enjoyed a Mania in a decade (or why Browning tunes in for 95% of it) is beyond my ken.

[wullie]

The biggest disappointment across the weekend was the unfulfilled promise of Shane-o-Mac.

[Ian]

If they were doing it on purpose (it's so hard to tell with WWE, sometimes they're capable of masterful stuff) then I thought they did a great job of creating just enough doubt over Rollins facing somebody who wasn't Cody.

Unless it was just me but between the lights going down and the "wrestling has more than one royal family" there was just a moment where I was waiting for the gong.

Imagine if they'd done that and had people going "oh well no Cody but at least we've got the Undertaker" THEN Here Comes The Money had hit. :drool:

[Shindig]

Glass shatters, Shadowboxin' Shane sweats his way down the ramp.

[Browning]

I only watch the Rumble and Mania these days, I don't bother with anything else. Even those are normally shite, but this mania was an exception.

Someone pointed out to me that Cody has all his people in the front row while Seth was in the ring, so there wasn't any doubt for me, but going into the event I think they'd created some, especially with the "reports" Cody didn't want to do Mania.

[Ian]

All this is irrelevant anyway. Veer is coming. It's all going to be okay.

[wullie]

Five pounds on him being billed from Planet Funk.

[Shindig]

I'm going with "Russian supervillain."

[Disco]

How did I miss the Great O Khan getting a sweet certificate for beating up nonces.

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[Ben]

Why Ben is tuning in if he hasn't enjoyed a Mania in a decade (or why Browning tunes in for 95% of it) is beyond my ken.

Even though I've grown to dislike WWE generally I'll still always give at least WrestleMania a watch just for nostalgia. You'll not catch me watching the weekly stuff so you're safe from my misery for the other 364 days.

[Waffdon]

Of course Ben is a wee mark

[Gray Fox]

He tuned in for the same reason we all did.

The rumours of The Best in the World making an appearance.

[Mike]

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This was great, gutted the gif doesn't have Austin laughing about it afterwards in.

[Ian]

Elias being repackaged as his own kid brother is very WWE.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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This is the version that was shown in RAW lol.

[Gray Fox]

Elias being repackaged as his own kid brother is very WWE.

He needs to don a fake beard and "talk" to his older brother in some pre recorded promos.

[7om]

It’s got Sandow vibes, this. He’ll be on AEW Dark by the summer.

[Ian]

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This is the version that was shown in RAW lol.

:D

[Ian]

Just listening to Wrestletalk's night 2 review.

They were really excited for Raw. :rosebud:

Some folks don't learn, I guess.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Nash Carter (who just won the NXT tag titles with Wes Lee at the weekend) has since been released.

[wullie]

There was a picture of him doing a Nazi salute or something as well, sounds like they had a cracking marriage. Bloody hell

[Ian]

Bit hypocritical of them on a weekend where a wife beater was in some of the most prominent moments of Wrestlemania.

[Ian]

Two more NXT name changes on Smackdown I see. Raquel Gonzalez becomes Raquel Rodriguez which is at least her real name.

However Marcel Barthel becomes "Ludvig Kaiser." :sick:

[Shindig]

That's atrocious.

[Browning]

It’s pretty bad but I’m not sure it’s much worse than Marcel Barthel in all honesty.

Butch being jobbed out to Xavier Woods though....

[Ian]

Marcel Barthel is at least just a normal sounding name. It's not cool or anything but it's not fucking Ludvig Kaiser.

"Butch" will be doing absolutely nothing on main roster.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

WALTER's music has gone from one of the best to generic wrestler 87 too.

[Disco]

Moxley / Yuta on Rampage was pretty great, I really like what they're doing with Big Willys Bad Lad Club.

[Ian]

Yeah Rampage sounds like it had some good stuff on it so I might need to check a bit of that out.

I see it's gonna be Nakamura losing to Reigns at Wrestlemania Backlash: The Revenge. That could be a fun match but it'll probably be the template they have Reigns wrestling against most opponents but fingers crossed the Rollins match is a sign they're prepared to mix it up a little especially when we know Nakamura is definitely losing.

[Disco]

An hour of wrestling on a Saturday morning is just right, and if they start putting bigger/more prominent matches on it then even better.

[Baz]

Moxley / Yuta on Rampage was pretty great, I really like what they're doing with Big Willys Bad Lad Club.Wow he was really bleeding.

Over as fuck too.

Also Daniel Bryan is either phoning it in, or I’m a complete anomaly in thinking he’s pretty trash. Rewatch the opening few seconds of Rampage and what the hell is that roll? Like a fat man reaching for the last wotsit.

[Ian]

Moxley / Yuta on Rampage was pretty great, I really like what they're doing with Big Willys Bad Lad Club.

Yep, just watched this and liked it a lot.

And Baz I think at this point we just have to put Danielson's style down as Not Your Thing. The Rampage match wasn't a classic or anything but it was solid and did what it needed.

I also watched the Elias / Ezekiel bit from Raw (and very little else) and that's a very silly thing that's probably going to work on KO's comedy chops alone.

[Ian]

I see Tony Khan has seen the riproaring success of Omos and has debuted a very tall man.

Just what AEW was missing.

[Disco]

Yeah what a way to kill the end of that show.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kushida has left WWE.

Meltzer is saying that he's going back to NJPW in June.

[Disco]

Did he ever get to turn heel like he wanted? I can't help but feel he made the move at the worst possible time so this is hardly a surprise.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Nope, it did look like they might turn him at some point but never went through with it.

[Ian]

I don't blame him. I reckon if NXT hadn't gone Dayglo he'd have got his shot eventually because he'd been in some good matches. It just felt like he was in that holding phase a lot of NXT guys went through waiting their turn.

Though as Disco said his timing was pretty unfortunate as the TV deal and the top of the NXT card stagnating didn't help him.

That said, nor did putting him in fucking "Jacket Time."

[Baz]

It’s ridiculous how far above and beyond Britt Baker is from the rest of the womens division, in every single aspect of professional wrestling.

[Gray Fox]

You must mean other than Stephanie McMahon, who invented womens wrestling though, right?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And Brandi Rhodes who he has a sweet doll of.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ian.

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Wrestletalk will walk it but it should be very fun.

[Ian]

Should be fun, yeah. I assume it'll be more games than trivia to give it a chance of being even.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That Japanese board game :|

I went for $500 thinking that was on the high end.

Edit: Andy miming the Mimosa Match :D

[Ian]

Ember Moon confirming (not in so many words) that in Vince and Bruce's NXT they basically wanted the women to all dress tartier and wiggle their tits more.

How utterly unsurprising.

[Gray Fox]

I've not watched NXT since the days of Bayley/Nakamura, but isn't there a woman on there now that wears a skin tight green thing, tits popping out of it and her gimmick is a sexy pin?

Vince will never change.

[Ian]

A sexy pin? What?

I'm not saying you're wrong but... what?

[Disco]

If it's what I'm imagining then there's a proper name for it, isn't sexy pin just what the OSW guys call it?

[Gray Fox]

That's literally how it was described to me.

A quick google found me this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMP2pJgUYAIvvcw.jpg

[Ian]

Showing up how little NXT I see now but who even is that?

But yes, that feels very Vince / Bruce / Johnny Ace.

[Disco]

Ok that's something entirely different.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sexy pin? Phwoar.

That was the correct response, dickheads.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

NXT releases have happened. Biggest names are Dakota Kai and Malcolm Bivens.

[Ian]

They clearly didn't have a clue what to do with Kai. And Bivens can do better.

I know gus current gimmick was shit but Boudreax is an odd one given he seemed a much hyped PC prospect for ages.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dexter Lumis gone too :(

I haven't watched product in ages but he was one of my favourites right before I quit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Got to imagine that Indi Hartwell will be soon too seeing as her "husband" and best friend have been cut.

[Ian]

Lumis was only a so so worker, or for the style WWE had him doing anyway, but I thought his commitment to and command of his character was incredible, even if that character was a bit meh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He might finally be allowed to blink now.

[Ian]

"Dexter Lumis" was always the name you simply don't give a guy you ever have any intention of doing anything proper with.

[Ben]

No spoilers but Wrestling Dontaku was pretty great if anyone is in two minds about checking it out. Lots of American/AEW involvement if that helps those who aren’t too familiar with the product.

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9bMXgwIQIc

The main thing I've taken from this is how fucking jacked he was before he got to the Fed.

EDIT: Oof. This gets kind of exploitative at the end. A bit like the Gazza documentary but with no domestic violence. Although he does seem to love the work they give him.

[Baz]

I think this is my favourite Twitter account.

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His timeline is well worth a scroll. Clearly loves AEW as watches it every week but absolutely hates it at the same time.

[Giggles]

I watched some of this while I was doing something else on Saturday morning. Not sure if it was new or not (though a once McMahon looked like a corpse) but in the whole hour I think there was only the one “fight” right at the end, and it was terrible even by wrestling standards. Is it expensive to get in to those things because the place was rammed to end up seeing very little.

[Shindig]

You know how sport coverage in the US is littered with ad breaks? Imagine if you could do away with the sport bit. That's WWE these days. At least that's the impression I got.

[Ian]

Google tells me they're anywhere from about $30 to $120 for a Raw ticket and I assume Smackdown is the same. But yeah, not unlike them these days to not actually have many matches on their TV shows, it's a bit of a pisstake and having been to a Raw in Glasgow can confirm just makes it even worse for the live audience when it's already not a show catered to the people who're actually there.

And yes, Vince looks basically dead and should have stopped appearing on TV about five years ago.

[Ian]

You know how sport coverage in the US is littered with ad breaks? Imagine if you could do away with the sport bit. That's WWE these days. At least that's the impression I got.

If they had their way they'd probably do away with the matches altogether and just make every segment a crap soap opera / sitcom "bit" with some product placement tie-in.

"And now it's time for the Madcap Moss Joke of the Week, brought to you by Netflix's latest Dave Chappelle special!"

[Baz]

I watched some of this while I was doing something else on Saturday morning. Not sure if it was new or not (though a once McMahon looked like a corpse) but in the whole hour I think there was only the one “fight” right at the end, and it was terrible even by wrestling standards. Is it expensive to get in to those things because the place was rammed to end up seeing very little.Do you get ITV in bottom Ireland? Search All Elite Wrestling on the hub and get Dynamite on.

Also if AEW ever comes to the UK (Craven Cottage) I better get tickets.

[igor_balis]

The WWE doing better than ever financially despite putting out absolute dross for years is a great argument against free market capitalism.

[Giggles]

Do you get ITV in bottom Ireland? Search All Elite Wrestling on the hub and get Dynamite on.

Also if AEW ever comes to the UK (Craven Cottage) I better get tickets.

This was on Virgin Media 2. It normally shows repeats of the chase from various countries and UK tipping point, which is why I wasn’t sure if this wrestling was new (a lad in a suit with a neck tattoo and a long haired man in a pyjamas seemed to be what the show revolved around).

I don’t know what all of your other words meant, but this experience hasn’t whetted the appetite for any more of it or other forms of it.

[Giggles]

I think they said the man in the suit was a son of Dusty Rhodes.

[Ian]

Just in case Vince didn't look old enough in whatever bit you saw, Giggles:
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[phonics]

Dante Martin v Ray Fenix was an absolute banger. Enjoy.

[Browning]

I’ve never watched NXT properly but surely there is no way back for them to be taken seriously after doing a storyline where a guy wanked so much he could return from injury quicker.

[Ian]

Nobody was taking Dayglo NXT seriously anyway.

[wullie]

I saw a bit where the narcoleptic girl in pyjamas turned someone's sunbed right up so they got horribly burned. Skin cancer is a dark route for such a bright show.

[Disco]

No spoilers but Wrestling Dontaku was pretty great if anyone is in two minds about checking it out. Lots of American/AEW involvement if that helps those who aren’t too familiar with the product.

Just getting around to this and Tana / Ishii was something else, what with his gravely knees (and weird WK ladder matches) it's easy to forget just how good Tanahashi is.

[Browning]

I saw a bit where the narcoleptic girl in pyjamas turned someone's sunbed right up so they got horribly burned. Skin cancer is a dark route for such a bright show.

So a 13 year old Family Guy joke and a 16 year old Final Destination reference? Vince with his finger on the pulse as per always.

[Ian]

It was only a few months ago Riddle was doing promos about Air Bud.

[phonics]

I’ve never watched NXT properly but surely there is no way back for them to be taken seriously after doing a storyline where a guy wanked so much he could return from injury quicker.

TBF there was a long running storyline where Big E would carry round his testicles in a jar and he got stronger by drinking the testicular pickle water.

[Ben]

The AEW/NJPW joint show was an instant sell out. I’m intrigued to see the card.

[Baz]

The Dark Side Of The Ring bit on Dynamite was very good. :)

Great spot fest between Darby and Jeff Hardy too.

Probably one of the only people in the world who wants JAS to smash BCC.

[Ian]

Watched some bits and pieces of wrestling from the last week.

Alexander vs Ishii - There wasn't an awful lot of selling in this but I do enjoy two hard blokes just smacking each other about. Can't quite get on board with Alexander's headgear though.

Rollins vs. Rhodes - Was surprised that Cody won but they're still doing the 'bury the new guy in an endless initial feud.' Thought it was a really good match though. These two have really good chemistry. They really need to give Rollins some wins though. Just checked and he's not won a PPV match other than by DQ since June.

RKBro / McIntyre vs. Bloodline - I mean it's a house show match, isn't it? But it was a lot of fun and while it's a classic trope in this sort of setup I thought they did the thing of Roman dodging McIntyre until he fucked up a tag and ended up in the right with him quite well. Not really sure why the finish wasn't McIntyre pinning an Uso though.

Hardwood vs. Cole - Hardwood wrestling as a singles babyface is odd but he did it really well here and it was a decent match. He also does a really good Sharpshooter and the pop for that was mega, but Cole still looks like he's in the bottom 5% of pro wrestlers I've who I'd expect to win a real fight.

The MJF contract signing was fun. MJF is great, of course, but his "heel in his hometown" schtick was awesome. I got a big chuckle out of "people in the cheap seats, you're poor but you're still beautiful."

[Ben]

Tanahashi vs Moxley vs Ospreay vs Juice from last night is well worth a watch. They went absolutely all out and could have easily done an extra 5-10 minutes. Moxley and Ospreay have tremendous chemistry.

[Disco]

Has anyone been watching the RJ City interviews on AEW? Arn Anderson this morning and it's a real clash of styles.

[Ian]

Enjoyed Cody's Broken Skull episode. It doesn't have one top anecdote or funny moment or anything, he just talks about wrestling in an interesting way.


Has anyone been watching the RJ City interviews on AEW? Arn Anderson this morning and it's a real clash of styles.

I only know of him from one Quizzlemania appearance but yeah I can see that being a bit of a personality mismatch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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All the wrestler did was knock the guys hat off.

Security was shockingly shit.

[Shindig]

How the fuck do you take that personally? Does he not know?

[Gray Fox]

Sounds like Naomi and Banks walked out on RAW last night, due to Banks' disagreements with creative and feeling like they aren't being respected as womens tag champs.

Naomi was booked to win the match to name a #1 contender too.

[Ian]

Well that's twice now she has rightly identified the women's tag title as being treated like an absolute joke so I can't say I blame her.

[Ian]

I absolutely love WWE apologising in their statement for not being able to deliver the advertised main event as well, as if they don't advertise one thing and do another on the reg.

[Ben]

Don't work yourself into a shoot, brothers.

[Browning]

WWEs statement is everything I hate about them currently. There were a million ways you could have handled that within kayfabe and without being cunts for the sake of it. Never has a company with so much money been so petty about everything.

[wullie]

The weird statement reads as if Vince Russo is back with the company on the quiet.

[Disco]

I absolutely love WWE apologising in their statement for not being able to deliver the advertised main event as well, as if they don't advertise one thing and do another on the reg.

The last two times I've sought out an episode of Raw (I'm not mad I just wanted to see the quite excellent lie detector angle) they started the show without having a main event booked anyway so this does seem somewhat petty. None of it is a shock though, they haven't cared about tag titles for decades at this point.

[Disco]

Don't work yourself into a shoot, brothers.

Made up or not the fact that most people seem to see that statement and believe that they might very easily do it tells you enough about what sort of company they are.

[Ian]

I just go by "are Fightful reporting it like it's not a work?" and they are.

[Browning]

Naomi's mate has clarified a lot of the details and, if they're to be believed, it was just WWE being cunts. Not shocked.

Sasha will surely be gone soon, and Naomi can forget about joining the Bloodline.

[phonics]

I'm not a Japanese wrestling guy buyt Hangman vs whoever this guy is is incredible.

[Disco]

Konosuke Takeshita, there was a really lovely delayed suplex at one point.

[phonics]

He's amazing. I'm a convert over all this chop dogshit they've been inviting in recently.

[Ben]

I'm glad Takeshita went down well. He puts on some incredible matches in DDT.

[Ian]

LA Knight is now "Max Dupri" because apparently they really screwed the pooch when they named him a whole year ago. The vitriol for anything that was on Black & Gold NXT is real.

Also Ricochet vs. Walter could be good if WWE just give them some time to have a good match. O'Shea is definitely getting splattered and it's a pity they don't care about the IC title but getting one nice thing out of it would be alright.

[Gray Fox]

Seems as though whatever plan Banks and Naomi had, hasn't worked. Next to zero support from the locker room and now stripped of the belts and suspended.

[Waffdon]

I seen Michael Cole speaking about it last night. It’s scripted, isn’t it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The more vocal WWE is about it the more I think it's a work.

Right now I fully expect two masked women to win the tournament before revealing themselves to be Banks and Naomi.

[Ian]

They did it when Austin fucked off and that wasn't a work. All it takes is for it to have annoyed Vince enough. I'm not saying it's 100% not a work but I don't think WWE talking about it says much. Them actively sending Fightful a statement when often they'll blank a request for one is odd but given a couple of versions of the story involve them basically saying half the womens division doesn't matter they could have just been trying to get ahead of it.

if they had no real competition they'd probably have sacked Banks off by now but there's no way they want Khan signing her.

Speaking of I saw Big Damo was on Rampage. Their roster is a bloated mess.

[Disco]

A one off appearance, he's not signed with AEW.

[wullie]

Is Miro/Rusev still there or injured or anything? They finally seemed to present him right and then I don't remember the last time I saw him

[Disco]

He was injured I think, and has also been doing some acting stuff. I do like that they have enough people to rotate but they're still trying to do too much with their 2 hours a week.

[Baz]

So long as MJF continues to be a mainstay, I’ll watch.

Did I post about my custom AEW T-shirt by the way? Arrived the other day:

https://i.imgur.com/aQGByR9_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Lewis]

:lol:

Where was it from?

[Baz]

:lol:

Where was it from?Got it made by someone on Reddit and then printed it on a T-shirt using StickerMule (https://www.stickermule.com/unlock?ref_id=0527951701&utm_medium=link&utm_source=invite) when they had a promo on for £8 T-shirts.

The dream is front row at Dynamite at Craven Cottage with it on.

[Browning]

Someone just showed me the end of Becky Vs Asuka. How are 2 women on that level producing the shittiest ending I've seen in years?

[Ian]

Are you looking for a deeper answer than "because WWE don't care about anybody who isn't Reigns*"?

* And especially not a wimmin, but that goes without saying.

Assuming you don't mean it wasn't just terrible booking but it was also terribly executed of course, because yeah if it was that then that is odd for those two.

[Browning]

https://youtu.be/fe9xf64IdWY?t=110

I honestly don't even know where to start with that. Surely it can't have been booked that way? Everything about it is shambolic, right down to the referee blatantly speeding up his count 500% to get to 9 on the fake count out.

[Gray Fox]

Look what happens one week after Stephanie McMahon leaves her womens wrestling to someone else.

[Ian]

Yeah that's all pretty grim.

Still, got to love WWE having their two title challengers lose to each other in the build up to the title match.

[Ben]

Robbie Eagles vs El Phantasmo from BOSJ earlier today is well worth 30 minutes of anyone’s time.

[Baz]

Big fan of DMD (doing anything really, she’s amazing) wearing a Captain Jack Sparrow T-shirt on Rampage.

[Gray Fox]

Phwoar.

[Disco]

Dirty Mouth Doctor.

[Baz]

Speaking of phwoar, another of my Instagram timeline turning up in AEW. First Kiera Hogan and now Ember Moon Athena. :chief:

[Baz]

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2021/06/a528b-16226660041576-800.jpg
He is awesome.

[Ian]

He's very good. Just another WWE missed opportunity.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He would keep putting on bangers on 205 Live. Same for Mustafa Ali.

That show was such an underrated gem in its prime

[Browning]

That Quizzlemania lineup..... :drool:

[Disco]

Who are they?

[Browning]

They're are basically the usual Quizzlemania lot, but as their characters from another series on the channel. The CBW series is brilliant though so it could be great.

[Ian]

That Quizzlemania lineup..... :drool:

I can't even see the announcement but based on what you've said that has the potential to get pretty old real fast.

In trying to find that I did see this. Started as this Jake Shields bod saying he's already sick of Pride month.

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:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

SRS :cool:

[Disco]

I can't even see the announcement but based on what you've said that has the potential to get pretty old real fast.

Their attempts at amateur dramatics are always the weakest bits, a whole show sounds like a bad idea.

[Ian]

Yeah that's kinda my fear. We'll see.

[Browning]

If you haven't watched the CBW series I would highly recommend it. Better storytelling than any wrestling company has had in decades.

How it'll translate to Quizzlemania I have no idea.

[Ian]

Yeah I've watched CBW. I like it well enough.

The highlight is obviously getting Laurie back for Quizzlemania for the first since (I think?) since he did it from the shitter.

[phonics]

I counted 7 seperate run ins in the Jade Cargill v Anna Jay match. A gang warzzzzzz spectacular.

[Baz]

I counted 7 seperate run ins in the Jade Cargill v Anna Jay match. A gang warzzzzzz spectacular.

And more botches than the last 3 episodes of botchamania combined.

[Ben]

I’ve heard the 10 man match is excellent?

[Baz]

I’ve heard the 10 man match is excellent?

Ironically, or…?

Camera misses most of the spots cos it’s flicking between the different groups of wrestlers. And it has Daniel Bryan in.

Only excellent match was Death Triangle vs House Of Black, and even that featured Brody King nearly paralysing himself.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think Quizzlemania will be fun this week although I've got to finish up watching the CBW episodes.

Weird start time though, really don't see who which market that caters for.

[Ian]

Probably to the "let people start it whenever they want" and "let the Wrestletalk lads not be working until 11pm" crowds.

I guess they only revert if they lose a load of superchat money.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Probably to the "let people start it whenever they want" and "let the Wrestletalk lads not be working until 11pm" crowds.

I guess they only revert if they lose a load of superchat money.

Definitely feels like they had a lot less superchats throughout and they barely had any to catch up on at the end.

I usually stop watching when they finish as they seem to have 30+ to go through still but today it was only 5.

The next Quizzlemania sounds like it could be incredible.

[Ian]

Thought that felt a bit half-arsed at times, to be honest. A Denise-organised one could be absolute carnage though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Thought that felt a bit half-arsed at times, to be honest. A Denise-organised one could be absolute carnage though.

Yeah I wasn't a big fan, happy for Sully though.

[Baz]

Found out today that Jimmy Havoc works for DPD. Not by receiving a delivery stapled to my front door, sadly. Saw it online after discovering the guy with the cardboard box on his head in the AEW crowd is Kip Sabian.

So, yeah, was a weird Googling sesh while having a poo.

[phonics]

MJF is pulling off the promo of the decade.

[Gray Fox]

I suppose this is AEWs pipebomb. Great promo.

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[Ian]

Hmmm. Still not sure what to make of that whole situation.

[Shindig]

Worked as fuck by a bunch of marks. EDIT: The crowd shot when he mentioned WWE. "Oooooooooooooh!" fuck off. :D

[Ian]

Oh yeah, I mean AEW are, the weekend stuff was supposedly not but they could just have been muddying the waters there.

[phonics]

Worked as fuck by a bunch of marks. EDIT: The crowd shot when he mentioned WWE. "Oooooooooooooh!" fuck off. :D

This is such a weird way to come at it. You’ll be telling me the results of the fights are pre determined next.

[Shindig]

But it's not a pipebomb then, is it? Pipebombs have an element of unscripted television about it. None of this looks off the rails and they're trying to portray that it is.

[phonics]

You think the pipe bomb wasn’t approved still? Am I going to have to tell you the results are predetermined?

[Shindig]

I just don't like how it's been presented. Seems very small time and a bit, "Well, WWE did this once so let's ape that." which is something AEW have never shied away from.

[Ben]

There’s only so many things you can do. I’m hardly an AEW fan but WWE themselves recycled it from Punk’s final storyline in ROH.

[Baz]

Funny how the Daniel Garcia vs Moxley match from Dynamite and the Young Bucks vs Lucha Bros match from Rampage were miles better than the majority of the recent PPV.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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rip.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Well it's not a work...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:|

[Ben]

I know he's old school but fuck me, working through that takes some balls.

[Ian]

Fucking hell. :sick:

Wrestling is such a carny freakshow.

[Ben]

Spoilered for HIAC result:
I'm not really watching WWE so I'm not caught up on the entire storyline but why have Cody win all three matches? It doesn't do Rollins any good and especially if Cody is going off for months now. Am I missing something or is it just another WWE being WWE?

[Disco]

I haven't seen it but doing a cell match with a torn pec is some hardcore shit.

[Browning]

It’s a refreshing change from their shitty 50-50 booking that gets nobody over, but 2 was probably enough.

[Ian]

Yeah it's just WWE being WWE so far as I can tell. Three in a row is a bit full on, should have let them both move on after he won two in a row.

I'm not spoilering as i think we've established by now that you don't open this if you don't know the results. :D

Might need to watch that match though just to see how fucked he looks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was seriously uncomfortable to watch at times and you could tell the crowd felt the same.

Really good match though.

[wullie]

I'm surprised at how much of a top guy they're making Cody, although clearly they're also doing it with a little wink towards AEW wrestlers who may have contracts expiring soon.

[Ben]

He's a smart guy, he would have got some assurances going into it.

[Ian]

Didn't he describe it as one of the most complex contracts in WWE history? He could have been gobbing off of course but complex is an interesting word to use. It's not the same as richest so I assume it's just full of things that mean if WWE try to do X he can tell them to shove it up their arse and walk back to AEW / being an indy.

[Ben]

It would surprise me if it wasn't. He's very clever and has seemingly got plenty of non-wrestling ventures ready to pay him millions if Vince makes him don the face paint again.

[Ian]

Rollins / Rhodes is Uncle Dave's first five star main roster match since Punk / Cena and only the sixth five star main roster match ever. Hmmm.

I will say that I watched it and it is probably among the best WWE HIAC matches in a good number of years (which is a very low bar) if only because Rhodes' hideous tit gave them something interesting to work around and in itself makes the match more memorable. WWE's "best"* match since Punk / Cena, though? Obviously not.

* Are Dave's ratings straight up "if x gets 5 stars it's better than everything which gets less than that"? I assume it must be.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Seems the internet was wrong about AEW being able to help him.

[Shindig]

License on a pole match.

[Disco]

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Lol, amazed it took so long.

[Lewis]

Paying up is quite decent form for him. Not to mention her actually consenting to it all.

[Ian]

Well that's boring. Doubt it's in the top twenty shitty things he's done that we don't know about.

[Gray Fox]

Seems they’ve taken this chance to fire Sasha Banks too.

[Baz]

I’ve turned last weeks episode of Dynamite off twice now. Starting to think I only watch AEW for MJF and the Lucha Bros.

Gonna skip Rampagr and try last nights Dynamite instead.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:drool:

[Shindig]

Heh. It's going to be a family business forever.

[Gray Fox]

Womens wrestling is saved again.

[wullie]

"McMahon will retain his role and responsibilities related to WWE’s creative content during this period"

Phew, there's a relief

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

wullie

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He's still got it.

[7om]

Why is this Vince thing being investigated? It seems like he had a consensual relationship with a member of staff and then paid her (with his own money) to keep her gob shut. I’m sure there is a catalogue of things you could nail the bloke with but not this.

[wullie]

wullie

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He's still got it.

My god that's glorious stuff

[Disco]

Why is this Vince thing being investigated? It seems like he had a consensual relationship with a member of staff and then paid her (with his own money) to keep her gob shut. I’m sure there is a catalogue of things you could nail the bloke with but not this.

From what I gather it's more that he doubled her salary after it started, plus I don't imagine the networks or advertisers who pay them a lot of money are desperately pleased with this sort of stuff making it into the real news.

[Lewis]

'We gave Vincent Kennedy McMahon a load of money and he did what?'

[Disco]

Who?

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[Shindig]

"The name on the bribe says "Shane McMahon."

[7om]

And surely, him “stepping aside” is just for the press release. There’s no chance he’s going to sit there and let Stephanie actually run the company.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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What a strange intro.

Crowd were cheering for him too.

[Gray Fox]

In case of emergency, Brock glass.

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[Shindig]

Okay, do those marks in the crowd think Vince getting sued/investigated/whatever means the company dies? Because I saw tears in that fucking crowd shot.

[Ian]

More Bork vs. Roman. :sick:


And surely, him “stepping aside” is just for the press release. There’s no chance he’s going to sit there and let Stephanie actually run the company.

I assume the board of directors basically told him it was happening?


wullie

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He's still got it.

:drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dave Hebner couldn't beat the 3 count today :(

[Lewis]

Dave killed Dave.

[Shindig]

Nevermind, lads. We've still got Eri Cangle.

[Ben]

Dave Hebner couldn't beat the 3 count today :(

And Tim White now :(

[Shindig]

Is it bad the last thing I remember him for was that segment on Raw where he killed himself?

[Ian]

Is Vince having all the backstage witnesses offed?

[Baz]

And Tim White now :(
Gutted. He was always my favourite cos he reminded me of Julian Dicks.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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They're winning the tag titles :drool:

[Shindig]

That middle seat is doing all the work.

[Dave.]

Dave killed Dave.

I can only apologise.

[Ian]

Wouldn't want it every week but this Quizzlemania has been absolute carnage.

Reminds me of out student union pub quiz where the top top three would draw their prizes at random. We won a few weeks in a row and once or twice got a bag of peanuts between us while the second or third teams got the crate of beer. We politely pointed out what a fucking stupid system this was and they just changed it so the winners got the booze.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Denise is clearly a McMahon.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Daddy Trips is back it seems.

[Disco]

Suzuki and Okada for a half an hour in the pouring rain. Ridiculous.

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[Gray Fox]

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Daddy Trips is back it seems.

He’s cashing in his ‘baby in the McMahon’ contract!

[Baz]

Max Caster's raps are always so good. :lol:

[phonics]

Yay Cesaro

[Queenslander]

Moxley's blade job is so stupid.

[Ian]

Pleased for Cesaro and I will absolutely be watching that match but fucking hell, AEWs roster bloat looks like they saw when WWE had too many people and Tony K thought that's how you're meant to do it.

[Ian]

ZSJ / Castagnoli was good, but I like both so I didn't think I wouldn't really enjoy it. Similarly the All-Atlantic Championship match was good but again, it featured people I really like (and one I'd never heard of.)

FTR were absolutely the highlight of what I watched though. Them as babyfaces is a bit odd to somebody who's mostly seen them in NXT / WWE main roster but they haven't lost a thing for the switch. They're so good.

[Ian]

WWE cards tend to have bad builds these days but you look at it and realise that on paper they've got a handful of matches which will probably be at least solid and one or two maybe more than that just because of the talent involved.

This Money in the Bank card actually just looks bad.

[Gray Fox]

They also forgot to have Owens v Not Elias on RAW after the big build up. It was supposed to be a qualifying match for MITB too.

[Waffdon]

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Why does he look built but also really weak at the same time? Is it his arms? Must be the steroids.

[Lewis]

Good to see him lurking outside his own house.

[Ben]

I'd say it's the steroids coupled with atrophy from his four million neck injuries.

[Ian]

The algorithm just threw this at me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHYUdZOJ5jw

100% pure nostalgia shot there.

[Ian]

Why is MITB tonight, a Saturday?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They're moving most of the PREMIUM LIVE EVENTS to Saturday now.

[Ian]

What? Fucking..... WHAT?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

All of the currently announced events (SummerSlam, Clash at the Castle, Extreme Rules, Crown Jewel and Survivor Series) are all on Saturday too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Also, this card looks so damn predictable.

Becky (unless there is a surprise Charlotte/Bayley), Bianca, Rollins, Ronda, Usos and Bobbles are all winning.

[Ian]

Riddle and Liv should win the briefcases. They won't, but they should.

Liv especially because a) she is actually good and b) it would have Becky continue the downward spiral bastard heel angle.

For the me I've made no secret of my appreciation of Rollins in this thread but Riddle would be the options most fitting of what MITB should be for and the most options going forward with Orton's return and whatnot.

But it'll be Seth and Becky.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seth wins the briefcase, takes the title from Roman at SummerSlam and holds it until Mania where he faces Cody who returned to win the Rumble?

[Ian]

Could also see them having Rollins win, try to replicate his Mania 31 win at Summerslam but Reigns flattens him and wins. Keeps the belt(s?) on Roman, Bork doesn't "lose" and they clearly don't think Seth losing matters.

[Baz]

I’m still up so stuck this on.

FTR called out The Usos so will see what the fuss is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They just had Alexa Bliss do what appeared to be a segment only to actually be an advert for WWE's credit card.

The boos from the crowd were glorious.

[Baz]

I cannot deal with the WWE camera switching. :|

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I cannot deal with the WWE camera switching. :|

This is actually quite light on cuts.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Montez Ford has springs for feet.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Omos table spot is brilliant.

[Browning]

They’ve still only had one woman hold MITB for more than 24 hours, and she needed a bloke to win it for her. What a joke they’ve made it already.

[Ian]

Doesn't sound like there's anything I need to make a point of watching but the winners are a pleasant surprise despite WWE randomly inserting somebody into the match again. Doesn't feel like Theory's going to cash in on Reigns so dunno what's gonna happen there.

And I'm pleased for Morgan but even with the briefcase having to win by roll-up? C'mon lads.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Doesn't sound like there's anything I need to make a point of watching but the winners are a pleasant surprise despite WWE randomly inserting somebody into the match again. Doesn't feel like Theory's going to cash in on Reigns so dunno what's gonna happen there.

And I'm pleased for Morgan but even with the briefcase having to win by roll-up? C'mon lads.

Tag match was great. Rest is all skippable.

[Browning]

This might sound crazy, but I think I've had an incredible idea for next week's RAW main event. How about.... Becky Lynch Vs Asuka?

[7om]

26 year anniversary of Bash at the Beach 96. The most important date in the history of our sport.