The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Ian]

Between people who can't / won't turn up during lockdown and some random (mostly pointless) call-ups yeah, they don't have a lot to work with right now.

[Ian]

The ongoing global health crisis and Empty Arena Era has fundamentally changed the way many view professional wrestling, with WWE Chairman and CEO Vince McMahon among that number.

This is according to a new Wrestling Observer Newsletter writeup from Dave Meltzer, whose sources closest to the situation claim that Vince's mentality towards everything in the promotion has changed since the situation kicked in, with McMahon seemingly abandoning an old mentality that was "all about the future."

Things like Paul Heyman as Raw Creative Director, the XFL's return, and NXT's expansion into Europe and Japan were long-term plays. Now, Vince is only thinking about the here and now. That the company will be more profitable this year than ever before doesn't factor into McMahon's switch towards short-termism.

It is also stated that Vince is frustrated with what he perceives to be a lack of fresh, young talent being pushed and promoted across his brands, though the lack of crowds makes it difficult to tell what is connecting and what isn't.

:roflol:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Good to see he hasn't lost his sense of humour.

[Browning]

Not sure how hiring Heyman can ever be considered long term. He lasts 2 years tops before he A) gets blamed for shitty booking decisions made by Vince and gets fired or B) makes the show too good and gets fired out of jealousy.

[Disco]

I assumed he only hired people to 'run' (ie defer to him on all matters) those shows solely so he could fire them to placate networks / cover up shitty ratings.

[Browning]

Didn’t realise Heyman was already gone when I posted that. :D

[Ian]

:D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:lol:

That's an unhealthy amount of "piss" though, surely?

[Ian]

Vince: not enough fresh new talent why is viewership low wah wah wah

Also Vince: LOLOLOLOL THE MIDDLE AGED MAN JUST THREW PISS HAHAHAHA SUCH GOOD SHIT

EDIT: Styles and Bryan got nearly 40 minutes? Crikey.

[Shindig]

"HE'S GONNA PISS!"

As for the piss amount, I pissed in a bottle after my accident and the hospital took that for samples. They err ... didn't televise it, though.

[Ian]

AJ / Bryan was superb. I don't like matches where they spend so much time working to set up a submission and then don't have that involved in the finish, and I thought the selling of the limb focus was a little selective at times but those are my only two minor gripes. Really good stuff.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Everyone ready for THE GREATEST WRESTLING MATCH EVER?

Meltzer wont know what's hit him.

[Disco]

New Japan starts tomorrow mate.

[Ian]

Not sure why they're bothering.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lashley and Drew were having a terrific match why fuck it all up with the shitty Lana finish? Ugh.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

A comedy cinematic match, how fun...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Wasn't the greatest ever, obviously, but Edge/Orton was actually really good. It took me a bit to get into it mainly due to the pumped in crowd noise and the silent live crowd but I loved it.

Great finish too.

[Queenslander]

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:drool:

Ibushi v ZSJ

Sho v Shingo

Goto v Takahashi

Disco

[Disco]

There's a show today but I don't know what's on it. I don't care at this stage, it's getting injected into the eyeballs as soon as I get home.

[Disco]

Japanese social distancing is interesting. Milano Collection clearly needing a little screen to keep him separated from Liger who is weirdly video linking in from somewhere else in the same building.


https://i.imgur.com/SvPWf8m.jpg


Still, we opened with Gabriel Kidd so all is well.

[phonics]

Japanese social distancing is interesting. Milano Collection clearly needing a little screen to keep him separated from Liger who is weirdly video linking in from somewhere else in the same building.

Production nerd chiming in. They either originally planned for 2 people closer together instead of 3 or during commentary both will sit at one table hence the need for a screen. Once they introduced a third they won't have been able to find a wide angle lens that could fit all 3 without showing you all the background so this was the solution.

[Disco]

There's a second screen to the left, they could all have sat together. As it is you get the odd glimpse of Liger sat on his own like a right no-mates.

[Shindig]

I hope it's just an illusion and Liger lifts the TV frame out the way to reveal he was there all along.

[phonics]

There's a second screen to the left, they could all have sat together. As it is you get the odd glimpse of Liger sat on his own like a right no-mates.

How do you think you'd fit that in one camera shot? He probably is sitting there.

The smart thing would be is 3 individual cameras and crop the frames but they probably only have 2 inputs or 2 cameras.

[Shindig]

They might be short on staff as well, to be fair.

[Disco]

How do you think you'd fit that in one camera shot? He probably is sitting there.

The smart thing would be is 3 individual cameras and crop the frames but they probably only have 2 inputs or 2 cameras.

What are you talking about? He could have sat where the TV was with a screen between each of them. It's still a bit odd when, feet away, men slap the piss out of each other and do suplexes and stuff.

[Ian]

Backlash was largely a bit meh. The main event was alright but all the window dressing and the fucking length of it was a bit much. That's an hour and twenty minutes they've 'wrestled' in two matches. Jesus Christ.

The Pissing Contest was better than I expected but McIntyre vs. Bobbo was the highlight of the night. I'd have liked a better finish to it but you have to wonder how it took these cretins three years (or whatever it is) to realise that this is what Lashley should be when it was apparently everybody else from day one.

[phonics]

Backlash was largely a bit meh. The main event was alright but all the window dressing and the fucking length of it was a bit much. That's an hour and twenty minutes they've 'wrestled' in two matches. Jesus Christ.

Making us watch a feature length Randy Orton movie after he got binned out of doing The Marine once it leaked he had gone AWOL irl.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They could have cut some time but I enjoyed it when I got past the piped in crowd noise with a largely mute live crowd.

The Street Profits/Viking Raiders cinematic "match" was absolute horseshit and they need to stop. It should be used to protect legends that don't have it anymore to make them look better.

[Browning]

What doesn’t help orton vs Edge is that no matter how good they have been, the story is utter shite.

“You might get hurt wrestling so I’m gonna prevent that by... hurting you”.

“Ok you survived all that stuff that was meant to kill you but can you survive.... A WRESTLING MATCH!”

[Ian]

Yeah their reverse-order feud is weird. I look forward to their grand feud-ending blowoff being a hellacious contract signing.

And I didn't watch a second of Profits vs. Fridge Raiders. I refused.

[wullie]

Is Christian wrestling again? Him and Orton was always a great combination.

[Gray Fox]

Just one more match...

[Ian]

I seem to be at odds with every other WWE fan for anything that isn't them just getting some talented people in the ring and letting them work stuff.

I thought Edge / Orton (even aside from its crap build) was fine but I hated the presentation and while I didn't mind the story of Orton being sharper than Edge unfortunately they achieved it by having Edge fuck up in ways that just made him look like an idiot.

I don't remember anybody whiffing an arm-drag and taking a bump, or when he attempted the headlock and missed or when he tripped and fell all the way out the fucking ring. One of the Wrestletalk guys is arguing it's WWE's best main roster match of 2020 when it's not even WWE's best match last week.

EDIT: I also didn't buy into any of the "other guys' finisher" spam either. It was like a weird tribute to how WWE presents an EPIC rather than actually doing a good match on its own merits.

I also forgot to mention Boatman's amazingly daft "Strowman Express" stuff in the entrance. It was terrible and I loved every minute of it. Bless WWE coming up with shit and making all the merch and THEN worry about getting it over.

[Ian]

USA Network apparently pissed off at WWE for replacing Heyman. :drool:

[Disco]

So WWE aren't allowing anyone with a mask in their 'crowds'. Still a bunch of carnie fucks I see, what a lovely company.

[Queenslander]

Dynamite was fun again this week. Sammy Guevara is so bloody good!

[Ian]

NXT setting up the potential of Lee as double-champ but I bet they ruin it.

[Queenslander]

That actually sounds like a great idea on paper.

[Browning]

In before the shitty DQ finish.

[Browning]

The Nia vs Asuka thing is yet more shit booking.

“She was going to lose by DQ but then she lost anyway but it might have been a slightly fast count so.... REMATCH”.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched last weeks NXT.

El Hijo del Fantasma/Santos Escobar :drool:

[Ian]

That little storyline leading to the turn must be the most predictable they've done in a while.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was but the actual reveal was done well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Breezango's entrance this week, stunning.

[wullie]

https://twitter.com/ExposeWrestling

Wrestling's finally doing the #metoo thing, something it should surely have been leading the way with

[Disco]

Yeah there's lot of stuff flying about revealing some decidedly creepy people in wrestling. Who knew.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

In before the shitty DQ finish.

Having watched the segment on NXT this will 100% happen.

Karrion Kross not being involved in the North American match on the 1st and thus can't be in the Winner Take All match on the 8th it means that there will be a no-finish in that winner take all match.

[Smjffy]

Yeah there's lot of stuff flying about revealing some decidedly creepy people in wrestling. Who knew.

So that'll be why BritishWrestling is trending....seedy stuff.

[Queenslander]

Just a bunch of ring rats amirite?

[Ian]

That Expose Wrestling account really wasn't fucking around last night by the looks of it.

[Queenslander]

Jim and Stacey Cornette... :drool:

https://mobile.twitter.com/aki_evolution/status/1273755945466806278

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[Browning]

Cornette’s response is brilliant.

[Lofty]

Have you seen the one about Vince McMahon allegedly asking the first female WWF for a blowjob in his limo then raping her when she refused?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Riddle's been caught up in it and his debut for Smackdown tonight has been cancelled apparently.

[Disco]

Jerry Lawler must be sweating in his crown right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Riddle and his wife have denied the allegations and said that Matt has had to change his number multiple times and thought about putting a restraining order on Cartwright due to stalking.

Not sure if his debut has actually been cancelled as they're rumours right now.

[Lewis]

If a load of the dodgy old Vince McMahon stories got traction he would probably just gimmick it through the next two WrestleMania cycles.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Could always go for a fake death story again.

[Browning]

Wait... was it THAT limo?

[Shindig]

"Bury it!"

[Disco]

I wonder if there's a legal reason this was printed on a page of address labels?

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[Browning]

Seemingly the screenshots she posted were created using some kind of message generating website, and people discovered that an account in the name of Riddle's mum was registered yesterday.....

[Ian]

For all that I 100% believe there are some properly awful people in the carny shithole that is wrasslin some of the stuff on that account has been likening the people who are just cunts and weirdos to the actual deviants and criminals.

[Browning]

Definitely. Ospreay and Bate having their names on the list of rapists when their crimes appear to be 1) standing by his mate who did something and 2) hitting on a girl and then taking no for an answer.

[Shindig]

"Hey, Goldberg put his hand on my shoulder and I didn't think much of it at the time. Now I realise that was wrong."

[Disco]

Definitely. Ospreay and Bate having their names on the list of rapists when their crimes appear to be 1) standing by his mate who did something and 2) hitting on a girl and then taking no for an answer.

'Will Ospreay says something dumb on Twitter' really shouldn't be news to anyone.

[wullie]

Jim Cornette making everyone in OVW have sex with his wife seems like something his podcast sidekick would make up just to get people listening.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jack Gallagher accused of rape and now out of a job.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The "allegations" about Jack must be pretty concrete as he was one of the newer names added to the pile yet the first one gone.

[Queenslander]

I wonder how many of the NWO ring rats we wont hear from because they have topped themselves?

[Yaysus]

exposewrestling twatter acc deleted the second riddle lawyered up :happycry:
most of these accusations sounded like "I had sex and I regret it/didn't get fame" anyway

[Queenslander]

:cab:

[Yaysus]

have you seen the riddle one?
"forced" oral in a car right next to two sleeping people and she never even thought of waking them up or screaming
sounds like standard ring rat/road wife shit to me plus riddle and his wife were apparently planning to put a restraining order against said accuser due to stalking way before this happened

[Disco]

Picking one particular incident apart is a bit disingenuous in the face of so many other complaints, Riddle could well be innocent but the overwhelming picture of independent wrestling is one where 16/17 year old girls are regularly preyed upon by much older men often in positions of trust/influence. The majority of those speaking out paint a picture of deeply inappropriate behaviour that has been largely ignored until now and it says more about you that you choose to concentrate on one of the questionable cases.

[wullie]

There will be a couple of questionable accusations but when Alex Shane, Dave Lagana and whoever else have left their roles within a day of it kicking off there seems to be a lot more legitimacy.

Once tapings are allowed again, NXT UK looks like it'll just be an hour of Pete Dunne vs Trent Seven each week.

[Yaysus]

Picking one particular incident apart is a bit disingenuous in the face of so many other complaints, Riddle could well be innocent but the overwhelming picture of independent wrestling is one where 16/17 year old girls are regularly preyed upon by much older men often in positions of trust/influence. The majority of those speaking out paint a picture of deeply inappropriate behaviour that has been largely ignored until now and it says more about you that you choose to concentrate on one of the questionable cases.

it was just one example and ofc it was a bit disingenuous, but people suddenly speaking out or, hell, even being surprised by how many psychos are part of the wrestling is fucking stupid
you have to be a naive retard not to know that most people are backstabbing, juicing assholes who would fuck you over for a little push, even more so in the indies


There will be a couple of questionable accusations but when Alex Shane, Dave Lagana and whoever else have left their roles within a day of it kicking off there seems to be a lot more legitimacy.

Once tapings are allowed again, NXT UK looks like it'll just be an hour of Pete Dunne vs Trent Seven each week.

like I said, I'm not saying that there aren't psychos, the opposite actually, but I'm not buying the majority of them when they have 0 evidence and it's just he said she said
like the cornette shit, do these people have no self respect? also in the same vein, people who did those things out of their own choice to (get a chance to) climb the career ladder and years later deciding that it was suddenly forced on them/something they didn't want to do
nah man

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What a dick.

[Disco]

In non-horrible news NJ is properly back :cool:

Suzuki / Nagata (two men on their 50's) have no business putting on a match that good. Hiromu / Honma was surprisingly good and it was just good to see Okada doing literally anything in the ring even if was a gimmick-fest against Gedo. Roll on Monday with ZSJ / Ibushi and Sanada /Taguchi.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

There will be a couple of questionable accusations but when Alex Shane, Dave Lagana and whoever else have left their roles within a day of it kicking off there seems to be a lot more legitimacy.

Once tapings are allowed again, NXT UK looks like it'll just be an hour of Pete Dunne vs Trent Seven each week.

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Trent is out.

[Browning]

That’s the stupidest one yet.

[Yaysus]

I raise you one better, talking about ospreay
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:saywhat:

[Waffdon]

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Trent is out.

:D

What the fuck have I read

[Baz]

What’s that thing called that people do online where they follow who is the actual world champion of wrestling?

Was just talking to Mike about it.

[Disco]

Which World Champion, there's like a million. Or do you mean the lineal champion, I'm not sure that really works as well in wrestling.

[wullie]

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Trent is out.

Fucking hell.

There'll only be Christian, Kane and Kevin Owens left at this rate. Any of them get implicated it'd be like if Brucie had been done by Yewtree, tear the whole thing down.

[Lewis]

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How have I never seen that before? The Prototype isn't having it.

[Disco]

He's probably thinking about having to boink the troll next to Cornette in order to keep his push going.

[Lewis]

The comment underneath about him even inflating the attendance of 9/11 made me lol out loud.

[Queenslander]

:drool:

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[Queenslander]

King of Dongstyle Joey Ryan being cancelled should give Jim Cornette a good hour of content.

[wullie]

He's in it up to his wife's neck as well by the sound of things.

[Queenslander]

Hiding in plain sight as I thought he was a progressive intergender wrestler.

[Disco]

Cornette is on the abuse of power end of the scale rather than the rapey end, Joey Janela is having a lovely time with it.

[Queenslander]

Im convinced with absolutely no evidence that Attitude Era WWE and NWO era WCW would have been awful for women backstage.

I want those tweets.

[wullie]

Without doubt. Ashley Massaro was apparently raped during a tour and told to keep it quiet, I think it can only get more scummy as you go back in time considering the 80s saw murders covered up

[Queenslander]

Without doubt. Ashley Massaro was apparently raped during a tour and told to keep it quiet, I think it can only get more scummy as you go back in time considering the 80s saw murders covered up

Bloody helI I always forget about that murder.

[Ian]

These things all rely on people accepting that they'd never get an easy paycheck from WWE again if they call them on it.

But even then there must be a lot of people who know they're not getting that but are worried about it getting dismissed or WWE lawsuiting them into the next plane of existence.

[Ian]

Sounds like on the finale of The Last Ride Undertaker was hinting at this finally being him done.

So I assume we're 99% certain to get him curling out another turd next 'Mania.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

*Next Saudi show.

[Disco]

lol out loud.

You what mate.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sammy Guevara has been suspended after someone found a podcast from 2016 in which he expressed a desire to go and Sasha Banks.

[Lewis]

She'd probably injure her rapist.

[Baz]

My wife’s mate works for Progress (I think) and she’s having a full-blown breakdown over this MeToo wrestling stuff.

[Shindig]

Why? How many has she raped?

[Queenslander]

Sammy Guevara has been suspended after someone found a podcast from 2016 in which he expressed a desire to go and Sasha Banks.

I just heard that on youtube. God dammit Sammy you daft carnt!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Trading AJ Styles for Roode and Ziggler (who now has a title shot) is fucking stupid.

[Baz]

Why? How many has she raped?None but lots of her friends are confiding in her. :sorry:

[Ian]

Trading AJ Styles for Roode and Ziggler (who now has a title shot) is fucking stupid.

Everybody wants more Dolph, mate.

[Shindig]

None but lots of her friends are confiding in her. :sorry:

Oof. I don't see much coming from this, sadly. Wrestling's a closed shop on the same level as the porn industry.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Charlotte is out until Royal Rumble apparently.

Word is that she requested some time off as she wants a rest and some "elective" surgery (is that code for another boob job?).

[Queenslander]

God dammit Marty



https://youtu.be/UrkJyGPOM6E

[Ian]

Charlotte is out until Royal Rumble apparently.

Which she'll probably win, again, before going on to beat Asuka clean as a whistle at Mania. Or something similarly shit. I'm just going to try and enjoy the time without her overbooking.

More importantly, Big Fat Keith Lee won last night so he's in with a shout of double belts. :drool:

[Disco]

WWE riddled with coronavirus by all accounts, some AEW people staying away from Dynamite as they've been in contact with someone who tested positive. That includes John Moxley whose 'someone' is his wife Renee Young.

[Ian]

Who'd have thought WWE would compromise safety in the name of keeping shows going.

[Disco]

'Our fans don't wear masks'

I suspect some of them might now.

[Ian]

Weren't they pulling some lark about inviting people to watch the shows and only telling them when they got there that they'd have to leave rather than wear a mask?

[Disco]

Yes, they said that if someone wanted to wear a mask they shouldn't come.

[wullie]

In wrestling you gut it out to pay your dues. Torn quads, broken freaking necks, global pandemics, sexual assault, the works

[Ian]

"But I don't wanna be racially abused."
"Well that's not gonna work for me, brother."

[Browning]

What did Tessa do?

Either way she’s been cancelled.

[Ian]

Sounds like she just wouldn't come to work ahead of her contract running out next week.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ligero and Travis Banks gone.

[Lofty]

I'm surprised half of them dont try the Lorraine Kelly/Hulk Hogan defence.

[Queenslander]

Dirt sheets are claiming the Dream is on his way out?

[Shindig]

He's just had a car crash so it seems like a good idea. And y'know, the paedophilia.

[Queenslander]

What a waste.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lorcan v Thatcher could be incredible.

[Browning]

Ian did they miss a Quizzlemania? I've just been catching up but I could have sworn I missed 2 weeks and there's only 1 there?

[Ian]

Ian did they miss a Quizzlemania? I've just been catching up but I could have sworn I missed 2 weeks and there's only 1 there?

Yeah Blampied needed a week off. Oli Davis said something about his mental health which I assume means people have been jumping on him over the Speaking Out stuff.

[Queenslander]

Blampied has done his time.

[Ian]

I would agree.

I'm also merely speculating about the cause if the 'mental health problems' are the actual reason but the timing seems pretty coincidental.

Also just seen what Mahow was posting about with Lorcan / Thatcher and I too am well up for that.

[Queenslander]

I could only imagine the group of retards trying to cancel him again good grief.

[Queenslander]

Miroslav Day. :cool:

[Ian]

Garza and Andrade losing a handicap match against the Big Show in 5 minutes to set him up his feud with Randy Orton.

WWE really are the best.

[Ian]

Also WWE are doing one of their 365 shows about.... Ricochet? Fucking why?

"Here's how we've spent a year wasting this super-talented guy."

[Ian]

Wearing a protective mask is now mandatory for anyone who attends WWE's tapings at the Performance Center in Orlando, Florida.

This is according to a new memo circulated internally throughout WWE, as revealed by Fightful:-


“As a reminder, wearing masks, sanitizing and social distancing will be required at the Performance Center this week and going forward. You’ll be required to wear a mask upon entering and we ask that you adhere to these requirements in order to minimize risks."

:lol:

[Queenslander]

:lol:

[Ian]

Browning Probably inevitable but Quizzlemania going bi-weekly. :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Really liked Thatcher/Lorcan (more please, perhaps even an I Quit match) and Io v Banks although it didn't need Batley and Asuka getting involved.

[Queenslander]

Yikes... Disco

https://youtu.be/SXTPUjV2leA

[Disco]

Master Wato :D

I'll reserve judgement until he's in the ring.

[Queenslander]

Hulk Hogan v Stan Hansen in All Japan Pro Wrestling 1990.

How do I embed from Facebook?

https://www.facebook.com/AJPWClassics/videos/2009993319131091/

[Shindig]

Hulk has no business going for those single-leg takedowns.

[Disco]

Whatever else you say about him the guy knew his audience, had to wrestle a different style in Japan to be popular. Never bothered with that stuff in the US because he didn't have to.

[Shindig]

Yeah, no hot dogging and grandstanding either. Just lots of breaking up counts to dish out more punishment and eye rakes.

[Ian]

The totes legit wrasslin' site I use to watch stuff is being a bit weird making it a bit of a pain in the tits to watch stuff.

Making my way through NXT though. Good stuff so far with the womens fatal four way (they need to stop trying to convince me Nox can chokeslam anybody without their assistance), Thatcher vs. Lordcan being fun and while I dunno what Lumis' ceiling is as a wrestler in terms of character work the guy knows what he's doing.

[Queenslander]

Brian Pillman Jr wrestling of AEW dark is very interesting.

[Ian]

I watched AEW for the first time, last week's Fyter Fest. I checked some reviews and Meltzer's ratings and the idea of that show's worst match being better than NXTs best on Wednesday is frankly lol.

Also the repeat focus on womens tits is the sort of thing WWE would (rightly) be getting shit for.

There were some good matches though so I'll be giving night 2 a watch.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Vince has soured on Shayna so much that she's now having matches on Main Event :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and Extreme Rules is now The Horror Show at Extreme Rules :face:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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:sick:

[Ian]

Still better than the one they had, I'd say.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://i.imgur.com/iNSMvPw.jpg

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Bold decision.

[Ian]

Are you saying there's a more accurate representation of the United States as things stand?

Also I watched Smackdown last night and while the angles were pretty much 100% garbage the actual wrestle was all pretty good. Riddle / Morrison is one of those where it's not a matchup I'd ever thought of but as soon as it was announced I'm happening it's like, "Well of course that'll be a good match."

[Disco]

A million things have had an eagle on them, get a fucking grip.

[Disco]

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Really?

[Shindig]

Does this imply one of them has been wrestling with a glass eye for years?

[Gray Fox]

An eye quit match would have gone down better.

[wullie]

Is the whole show going to be the cinematic stuff? I thought all the SFX budget for the year went on Eric Rowan's remote control spider.

[Disco]

That fucking spider is the only WWE programming I've seen all year and it still cracks me up.

[Ian]

"Yes, confirming our worst fears, WWE has confirmed that the only way to emerge victorious in this Extreme Rules contest is to extract your opponent’s eye."

:D

Jesus.

[Browning]

In before the match is thrown out because Seth uses too many weapons.

[Ian]

"Hey, stay away from the eyes, Seth!"
"But that's the stip-"
"I said stay away from the eyes! I'll disqualify you!"
"But-"
"RING THE DAMN BELL!"

[Shindig]

Just make it Mortal Kombat, lads. You have the film studio for it.

[Queenslander]

Frty Fest night 2 was very good. Best 8 man tag I have seen in a long long time...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Night time of The Great American Bash was good but not as good as last week.

Loved the finishing move in the Candice/Mia match and Swerve/Gargano was MOTN for me. Main event was good but could have been so much more.

[Ian]

I watched the main event there to avoid spoilers. Big Fat Keith Lee. :cool:

The match was good but not amazing, but I'm not a huge fan of Cole's in-ring work so I wasn't expecting a classic.

EDIT: Also the Panama Sunrise / Canadian Destroyer is Spanish Fly-levels of dumb at the best of times but Cole hitting one on Keith Lee from the mat is particularly lol.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I watched the main event there to avoid spoilers. Big Fat Keith Lee. :cool:

The match was good but not amazing, but I'm not a huge fan of Cole's in-ring work so I wasn't expecting a classic.

EDIT: Also the Panama Sunrise / Canadian Destroyer is Spanish Fly-levels of dumb at the best of times but Cole hitting one on Keith Lee from the mat is particularly lol.

One of the lads from Indus Sher spoiled the match last week for people on Instagram.

Luckily I managed to stay away from it.

I'm surprised though that they actually allowed Keith to win, I was sure that Kross would get involved and give the match a no-finish. I imagine they'll make Keith drop the NA title and a tournament will be set up.

[Ian]

I knew there was a spoiler knocking about. I also saw a headline earlier that NXT had crowned a new double-champ which I was actually happy about, otherwise I'd have been sitting waiting for Kross to ruin the finish.

I doubt they'll make Lee just drop the NA. If you do that what's even the point of this push in the first place? Maybe Kross costing him that will be the first part of their feud. I'd like him to hold both for a month or two anyway.

[Gray Fox]

Apparently the EYE FOR AN EYE match is going to use CGI to do the finish.

[Disco]

So a stupid solution to a problem that never needed to exist, I look forward to not watching it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You mean one of them isn't really going to lose an eye?

[Gray Fox]

I assumed there'd be some DQ, shitty finish bollocks, but this is a whole different level of stupid.

[Browning]

I hope the eye then allows them to see things from another location, like Mrs Potato Head in toy story.

[Disco]

The real question (because it's bound to look completely terrible) is how long the loser will keep up the pretence that they only have one eye. I give it about a week or two before it's totally forgotten.

[Lewis]

How long did Kane use that voice box?

[phonics]

The real question (because it's bound to look completely terrible) is how long the loser will keep up the pretence that they only have one eye. I give it about a week or two before it's totally forgotten.

Mysterious retiring and they can’t do a mask match because they already did that.

[Gray Fox]

The loser will get some revolutionary surgery performed by Vince McMahon himself at WWE HQ.

[Queenslander]

Jay White must be staying in Florida for the rest of the year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was a bit bored and didn't know what to watch and Youtube recommended Quizzlemania.

Watched the first two episodes and loved it. The nipple and "Newlyweds" rounds in the first was brilliant.

[Ian]

Me and Browning have been saying it's great for weeks, you fool.

It's a pity David Starr might now be a wrong'un because the episode with him (and his mum) in is great.

[phonics]

I tried to watch Quizzlemania but the massive gaps between questions so they can read micro transaction comments gets on my nerves so I keep having to turn it off.

[Disco]

The donation messages did for me to, just unbearable.

[phonics]

You try skip the comments and then you miss a joke and have to scrub back. Just too much effort.

[Queenslander]

Disco

Are you up to date with NJPW?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's a bad Rusev/Miro day, he's tested positive for Covid.

[Ian]

I'm watching the Ricochet episode of 365 and it's just making me feel even more sorry for him.

Seems a really genuine guy who was excited to be in WWE and getting the chance to be on Raw, Mania, etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Sean Ross Sapp trying to guess a certain wrestler in episode 5 was tremendous.

[Disco]

I'm watching the Ricochet episode of 365 and it's just making me feel even more sorry for him.

Seems a really genuine guy who was excited to be in WWE and getting the chance to be on Raw, Mania, etc.

If they aren't using him can we just have him back please.

[Disco]

Disco

Are you up to date with NJPW?

Haven't watched the latest shows but I have an idea what's happened.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If they aren't using him can we just have him back please.

No, he should be sent back to NXT.

[Queenslander]

He needs one of those NJPW/AEW contracts.

[Disco]

Brian Cage is a bizarrely shaped man and I believe he is going to lose.

[Ian]

Is he actually any good? Only match I've seen of him was in PWG and he was against somebody doing a banter match as I recall.

I do love a Screwdriver though.

[Queenslander]

Yeah he can definitely go.

[phonics]

How they can let the most obvious steroid user I've seen since on the card?

[Ian]

Because wrestling companies don't care about steroids.

[Disco]

How they can let the most obvious steroid user I've seen since on the card?

This is killing me. Since who?

[phonics]

The Wrestlemania 3 card was what I meant to put in there.

[Disco]

That's some typo. :D

[phonics]

Nah I was going to go with the joke, decided I couldn't phrase it right and clearly forgot to delete 'since'

[phonics]

We talking about different songs?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE8R8sd_OAE

Sounds like the most generic early 00's metal.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That is horrendous.

[Queenslander]

I dont know if a one off post on instagran stories is appropriate for something so serious.

https://i.ibb.co/pr6N5kP/Screenshot-20200715-134256-Instagram.jpg (https://ibb.co/vvCfRMB)

[Ian]

Is there any reason why that we know of?

I mean that seems to tie in around the time the Speaking Out stuff started happening but I don't remember him being named.

[Browning]

He was named but it was a bit stupid. He was being slated for basically continuing to book his friend after someone said the friend abused her.

[Disco]

And having people taken off shows because his girlfriend fell out with them. His Twitter had been dead since so maybe something else has gone on.

[Ian]

Ah okay, I either missed all that or immediately forgot.

[Queenslander]

Anyone who cares about him will get him off social media.

[Browning]

The Artists collective this week was the peak of Quizzlemania.

[Ian]

Wale dropping off for "agricultural purposes."

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The Artists collective this week was the peak of Quizzlemania.

That's me, no wait that's me...

The drawing was great, the explanation spectacular.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

KO with a springboard moonsault :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Glorious.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The finish to the eye for an eye match :lol:

So fucking stupid.

Edit: And the Swamp Fight might be the worst cinematic match they've done. Even the Squaredcircle hated it and they love Bray to the moon and back.

[Browning]

I’ve not watched a minute of it but that truly sounds like the worst show of all time.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734528850893209680/734756300654772274/20200720_135857.jpg

The card was better than I thought but the problem is that they ruined the two best matches.

Asuka/Banks was a terrific match and then the overbooked nonsense finish ruined it completely. With Drew/Ziggler you never felt that Dolph could win, even though with the stipulation so heavily in his favour he should have won.

[Browning]

They also booked Drew in exactly the same way that’s ruined all their other recent face champions.

[Disco]

The only surprising thing about that is that anyone expected any different.

[SvN]

The cinematic match was awful. Braun tied to a chair for 20 minutes while Bray spoke in riddles. What a disappointment.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The cinematic match was awful. Braun tied to a chair for 20 minutes while Bray spoke in riddles. What a disappointment.

It was Spooky Soap Opera.

[Ian]

I was going to say I find it hard to believe anybody expected more from the Swamp Fight but then I suppose I also wasn't in favour of the Boner Yard so maybe it was just me expecting nothing. The only thing I liked was the little Mixed Match / Alexa / Sister Abigail reference thing.

The Raw womens match was good but if that ending holds up then lol. And the tables match wasn't helped by them going for the worst version of the rules. The finishing spot was still decent though.


They also booked Drew in exactly the same way that’s ruined all their other recent face champions.

With an important exception. He isn't being made to look like an idiot (most of them) or a snivelling weed (Rollins) or to say endless stupid shit (Sufferin' succotash!) outside of matches. I don't think people don't hate powerful faces (unless they're being booked at the expense of Daniel Bryan), they hate unlikeable mongs.

Reigns had the same issue as Cena. Fans gave them undeserved shit for their ring work but the real issue is that their characters no-sold everything that happened to them. Cena's a brilliant promo but that doesn't matter if your response to everything any heel tries to do to you is basically 'lol.'

I'd agree though that they need to be careful how they go once they're in front of live crowds again. Not much of his big babyface build up was in front of fans really so they can't just assume that everybody's going to love him unconditionally with whatever they have planned.

[Ian]

According to Uncle Dave Asuka was meant to be winning clean last night until Vince changed his mind and we got that fucking ending instead.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S07E12/1265097.jpg?b64lines=T2gsIEknbSBhZnJhaWQgSSd2ZSBoY WQKIG9uZSBvZiBteSB0cmFkZW1hcmsKIGNoYW5nZXMgb2YgaGV hcnQu

[Ian]

https://youtu.be/5cGt3DbJPlI

How am I only now learning this was a thing?

[Browning]

RAW tapings have been delayed due to a combination of talents not being available (COVID?) and re-writes after shit feedback from last night. It’s going to be so glorious how bad it is.

At least it’ll still have Orton vs Big Show....

[Ian]

If they just keep making things up on the fly hard enough they'll eventually nail it, I'm sure.

[Ian]

Oh good, we're getting more Ziggler in the title picture.

[Browning]

Bayley to attack Sasha, giving her the belt by DQ. It’s so shit and that’s why it’ll definitely happen.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kairi apparently had her last match with the company at RAW and will be leaving to go to Japan to be closer to her husband.

Pirate Princess :(

I'm sure I've said this before but her elbow drop might be the best around.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3757c590fd2737c8169fa7a65138cecc/tenor.gif?itemid=9925432

[Browning]

I imagine she’s taped something else, but if they’ve let her fuck off with a win over the champion they’re dumber than the Extreme Rules booking suggests.

[Ian]

Don't they have more episodes already taped, like Browning said? I'm sure I read they had. Probably still time to ruin her exit.


I'm sure I've said this before but her elbow drop might be the best around.

There's no 'might' about it. It definitely is and it's genuinely ruined basically every other elbow drop for me.

[phonics]

Lack of distance travelled means that Macho Man still wins.

[Ian]

Any old (super athletic) wrestler can jump to the middle of the ring to drop the elbow.

What's impressive about hers is the total disregard for her own wellbeing to make it more impactful.

Though admittedly she looks like she weighs less than a bag of flour so I suppose she has to put some gusto into it.

Woods does a good one as well, if distance is what you're after.

[Shindig]

Shane O'Mac hasn't hit any coast to coast elbow drops, has he?

[Ian]

He's the best in the world, he could do one from the ring to the top of the ramp if he wanted to.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They only let Keith be a double champ for one week :(

[Ian]

Literally the least interesting option. Have Kross cost him it or stick him in a triple threat where he doesn't take the pin if you don't want him losing. Such a pointless decision.

[Browning]

Having someone told two singles titles at once isn’t good no matter what they do. However he lost it, that guy should then have been the NXT Champion, not beating the NXT champion to win a lesser belt.

[Ian]

It's fine for a short period of time and the way NXT book there's no reason that for a month or so he couldn't have actively defended the titles as much as any champion does and held both for a bit.

If you wanna do something pronto just do the Angle / Benoit / Jericho thing and only have him take the second fall.

[Browning]

I just don’t think they’ve ever done a good angle where someone had 2 titles (excluding tag titles). Even Becky 2 belts was shite.

[Ian]

Badmouthing D'Lo Brown like that. :nono:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Adam Cole :cool:

Being paid to tell Pat McAfee to fuck off is great.

[Ian]

Has to be a work.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

100%.

Still must be fun telling McAfee to fuck off though.

[wullie]

The one good angle I remember when someone had a few belts was Lance Storm renaming them all stuff like Saskatchewan Singles and Nova Scotia Classic or similar

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bc/de/b1/bcdeb182d04684a129277872cf6181e1.jpg

[Ian]

The Reed / Gargano / Strong match on NXT was really good last week and I'd be pleased if Reed winning is a sign that they're going to give pushes to some other talent to mix things up a bit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

SRS back this week on Quizzlemania :cool:

[Ian]

Oof, come to take down Luke?