The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Accidentally stumbled on the next Takeover's Wiki page and I've had something spoiled for me but it has also confused me.

[Browning]

Well no shit Vince wants him back. Whether it’s possible or not is another story.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

With God, anything is possible.

[Queenslander]

Vince and Hulk re-writing No Holds Barred in a hotel room on all of the world's coke. :drool:

And whoever gets to be Ed Leslie.

Macho Man as well.:drool:

[Ian]

Accidentally stumbled on the next Takeover's Wiki page and I've had something spoiled for me but it has also confused me.

What's the spoiler from, this week's NXT?

[Queenslander]

Johnny Wreslting drops the belt?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What's the spoiler from, this week's NXT?

Next week or the week after I believe.

[Ian]

Ah right, I'll try and remember not to look at the card then.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's the final of the Dusty Classic that is spoiled.

[Browning]

Dillinger, TJP and Itami are gone.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

TJP one came from nowhere.

He is great in the ring but his video game gimmick with dab (bar his theme music) was shit.

[Queenslander]

I highly reccomend Ospraeys latest promo. Setting up a potential WK fight for next year with Jay White.


https://youtu.be/BVnfPwc6HuM

[Disco]

The elbow/knee pad thing is one of my wrestling pet peeves. If I'd taken my elbow pad off... you'd have hurt your elbow because that's how those things work.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems that Roman might well be coming back.

A personal trainer posted a picture with Roman indicating that he's back training.

[Ian]

How can that be possible this soon?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He secured a surprise roll up pin.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Here is the post btw:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuNGlYlBH--/?utm_source=ig_embed

[Shindig]

He looks well. I'd imagine he went straight on treatment as soon as he got the diagnosis. WWE might've paid for it.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The company (Vince) really hates Asuka don't they?

Loses the streak at WM (fine with that) then made to look like a mong by James fucking Ellsworth. Then they have her randomly entered into a Lynch/Flair match and win the title only for her to disappear from TV and have her lose to Mandy Rose when she comes back.

Oh and why the fuck do they keep having Lacey Evans walk down the ramp, throw a disgusted look and then walk back?

[Queenslander]

Because he cant get past female wrestlers being divas?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd also wager a lot of money that he hates Asians.

Brought up in Carolina during the Vietnam war...

Didn't he call Gail Kim a gook at one point allegedly?

[Browning]

I like Mandy Rose but that Asuka thing was one of the worst booked matches I have seen in ages. It would have been better to have her lose off the Evans walk out that off being dropped lightly onto the second rope.

Evans is meant to be one of the women they are going to build the division round post mania and supposedly she’s the front runner to challenge Asuka at mania... which makes it all the weirder.

[Queenslander]

Double Moonsault.


https://twitter.com/briantheguppie/status/1099815109218762753?s=19

[Shindig]

Oh and why the fuck do they keep having Lacey Evans walk down the ramp, throw a disgusted look and then walk back?

Is she a fashion model?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Seems that the NXT quad will be permanent additions. Aleister Black said goodbye to NXT fans at a live event the other night.

[Ian]

I didn't realise we thought anything else.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well there were rumours it was a one time thing and I hoped that was the case.

Apparently they'll get a big push but that probably means they'll be joining No Way Jose's conga line in a couple of weeks.

[Ian]

Or they'll be pushed to the moon and get all the gold to further illustrate how out of touch Vince is.

I see Pritchard is back as a full time creative. I've never listened to his podcast or watched his show so I've no idea if he talks sense or is a demented WRASSLIN loon.

[Disco]

Just what you need to liven up your stale tv show, someone from 30 years ago.

In other news, my main takeaway from the two Honour Rising shows is how much I've missed heel Marty Scurll, there really is no-one better. Will Ospreay managed to do his new finisher on Jeff Cobb and it didn't look shit which seems sort of impossible. Roll on NJ Cup, if they manage to beat last year we're in for a treat.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Remission again then for Roman.

Triple threat time at WM?

[Browning]

They missed a trick by not having Big Dave come out and give him the thumbs up..... thumbs down and Powerbombing him. :drool:

Great news though, as much as he does nothing for me as a wrestler, it's great to have him back.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah I'm not a fan of him but glad he's back.

[Ian]

I don't really see why you'd have a problem with Reigns as an individual performer if you look at his matches, etc. in isolation rather than as part of the ludicrous booking.

Also if he's ready to go I dunno why you wouldn't have him murderspear Ambrose to come back for the stuff around the time he announced he'd had a relapse. Unless they're trying to pretend some of Ambrose's promos around the time didn't happen.

[7om]

Just what you need to liven up your stale tv show, someone from 30 years ago.

In other news, my main takeaway from the two Honour Rising shows is how much I've missed heel Marty Scurll, there really is no-one better. Will Ospreay managed to do his new finisher on Jeff Cobb and it didn't look shit which seems sort of impossible. Roll on NJ Cup, if they manage to beat last year we're in for a treat.

Day 1 ZSJ vs Shota Umino was so good. That kid is going to be a star.

[Disco]

I think you might be right, I like Ren Narita too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watching RAW.

Great news regarding Roman and a great segment.

lol at The Revival, let them win the titles then lose two weeks in a row clean (in quick fashion too) against the NXT call ups.

[Shindig]

Every Roman promo writes itself now. "Mate, I've beat cancer twice." <walks off>

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ambrose wearing two belts is proper mental behaviour.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bautista looks like such a twat with that nose ring.

[Ian]

As if they're bringing him back as a deranged heel to lose a 'cathartic' match to babyface HHH at Mania, which is what I assume is happening.

[bruhnaldo]

Oh and why the fuck do they keep having Lacey Evans walk down the ramp, throw a disgusted look and then walk back?

When I saw her at a house show her whole gimmick was this American pin-up model and she came out with these white gloves on and a literal bottle of hand sanitizer... as if everyone was dirty but her you know?

I didn't see her latest gimmick but when she came out with heavy machinery the other night I just assumed, based on what I'd seen already, they were going to try and push a "Lacey Evans is going to clean up your act!" gimmick with her as their manager or some nonsensical shit.

[bruhnaldo]

Roman would be so over if he came back with everyone cheering him and he cut the nastiest heel promo about how "Oh, now that I've beat cancer you want to cheer me? It took me literally almost dying... even though I come out here and nearly die for you people every night I'm on the card.... for you to cheer me? I don't need your cheers blah blah blah"

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

When I saw her at a house show her whole gimmick was this American pin-up model and she came out with these white gloves on and a literal bottle of hand sanitizer... as if everyone was dirty but her you know?

I didn't see her latest gimmick but when she came out with heavy machinery the other night I just assumed, based on what I'd seen already, they were going to try and push a "Lacey Evans is going to clean up your act!" gimmick with her as their manager or some nonsensical shit.

They've kept the 'Lady of ...' thing which sees her pretending to be the only upper class lady but I don't get why they don't put her in a match, give her a mic etc etc.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Roman would be so over if he came back with everyone cheering him and he cut the nastiest heel promo about how "Oh, now that I've beat cancer you want to cheer me? It took me literally almost dying... even though I come out here and nearly die for you people every night I'm on the card.... for you to cheer me? I don't need your cheers blah blah blah"

It would be great but he's the TOP FACE as long as Vince is still breathing.

[Gray Fox]

Reigns will stay over for obvious reasons for a few weeks. Maybe up to Mania. Then the tide will turn.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he'll only stay over until/if they make the WM match a triple threat.

People want Rollins to run with the title for some time.

[Gray Fox]

I don't think they'll put him in it properly. Maybe as a special guest referee. I don't really see a lot of other opponents he could take though.

[Ian]

Hopefully that nonsense with Jezza is just so Roman can steamroller at Fastlane and get it out the way.

[Yaysus]

As if they're bringing him back as a deranged heel to lose a 'cathartic' match to babyface HHH at Mania, which is what I assume is happening.

batista mentioned giving hhh his win back in one or two interviews

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Reckon this whole Vince taking out favourites of matches will lead to a civil war type thing?

Vine and Shane against Hunter and Steph for the company.

Loser of Survivor Series has to go?

[Shindig]

A McMahon in every corner, you say?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Linda holding a contract in a shark cage on a pole match.

[Shindig]

And the contract is to build the wall. For the Brawl on the Wall pay-per-view.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Luchadores flying off the half finished wall :drool:

[Shindig]

Shane.

[Ian]

The booking and handling of NXT call ups is still all over the fucking place but Smackdown was, taking everything in isolation, pretty good this week.

Not keen on KO just having the Stunner as his finisher, if that's what's happening. Especially if it's going to come with Todd Phillips shouting "Oh hell yeah!" for however long Owens is pretending to be a babyface.

[Queenslander]

Nah KO is perfect for the stunner. His ROH character was ruthless!

[Ian]

I just prefer the Pop-Up Powerbomb. I mean if they're going to have that (especially onto the apron) as his final resort finisher type thing that's fine I guess. There just aren't enough powerbombs around these days.

Everything is a fucking kick.

[Queenslander]

Both as a finisher?

[Ian]

If there's a finisher you can do OUTTANOWHERE then that will become the main one.

Given how barely anybody's finisher actually counts for shit anymore I personally quite like the idea of people having a main big move that will win them the majority of matches and then something on a grander scale that they pull out for the big occasions.

Heel Neville did this perfectly, using the Red Arrow both to tease the crowd but still using it in matches where he just wanted to put the fucker away.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

+1 for more powerbombs needed.

[Ian]

Jacknife / release powerbombs as performed by Kevin Nash can fuck off though given it frequently looked like he'd just lost interest halfway through.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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I would be well up for some extra Takeovers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://whatculture.com/wwe/tommaso-ciampa-ruled-out-of-nxt-takeover-new-york-set-to-undergo-major-neck-surgery?page=1

Shiiiiiiit.

There were rumours that he needed surgery but I was hoping it was minor.

[Ian]

Even by WWE standards referring to Erick Rowan as a '7 footer' is some going.

[Disco]

Round the middle maybe.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Even by WWE standards referring to Erick Rowan as a '7 footer' is some going.
I like that they've claimed the taller Uso is the smaller one and the smaller one is now the tall one.

Jimmy is just about 5'11 but billed at 6'3 and Jey is actually 6'2 and billed at that.

They added a total of 9cm to Jimmy.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/tommaso-ciampa-to-undergo-neck-surgery?sf209006599=1

It's official:

Following a medical evaluation today, Ciampa has been scheduled for an anterior cervical fusion

:(

[Queenslander]

Adam Cole to win the title?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I hope so.

Gargano is being talked up but seeing as he's full time going to SD/RAW afterwards they'd have to strip him instantly.

[Queenslander]

I dont think Dream needs it at all to be honest.

I am worried Gargano will be burried:(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think they could have built on the Gargano/Ciampa thing. With Ciampa out for up to a year I think Johnny will be headed to 205 soon.

[Queenslander]

Tag team gold?

[Ian]

I think Cole would have been moving up from NA to NXT title soon anyway so he'd be an obvious choice and it ties in with UE's stated aim for the year too.

[Queenslander]

Highlights from Ospreay v White were cool. Ospreay has to be a future IWGP Heavyweight champ imo.

[Queenslander]

http://i65.tinypic.com/11uxkpv.jpg

[Queenslander]

Okada V Elgin was a belter! The New Japan Cup has been great so far and I have no idea who will win at this stage.

[Ian]

There was a point watching Fastlane yesterday where I convinced myself I was having a pretty good time but then realised it was basically that they'd put everything that passed for the good stuff in middle. They had a particularly bad night for satisfying endings and if this current business with Kofi is anything to go by Vince's current gimmick is 'dementia.'

Though my absolute favourite thing about it was the AJ / Keith thing.

Keith randomly appears to attack Elias for literally no reason, and then he gets jumped by AJ who has presumably been following him around all night like a pervert just in case he hits the ring.

[Queenslander]

New Japan Cup is great Ian get amongst it!

[Ian]

I imagine you going to WWE house shows when they come your way, not to attend, but to stand outside with NJPW pamphlets like a Jehovah's Witness.

"Have you thought about Tomohiro Ishii recently?"

[Queenslander]

I imagine you going to WWE house shows when they come your way, not to attend, but to stand outside with NJPW pamphlets like a Jehovah's Witness.

"Have you thought about Tomohiro Ishii recently?"

:D

Bit of that and my genuine social retardation going on.

[Disco]

It's like an intervention.

'Can you spare a moment to talk about wrist control.'

[Queenslander]

That is pretty rude hey?

By the way Aussie wrestling is going off!

[Disco]

Just got our tickets for Royal Quest in August. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Word is Demon vs Phenom at WM.

[Ian]

Whoever he's facing I just want this to be Undertaker's last match.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Everyone feels the same.

[Ian]

Also if that's true then lol at Balor bringing out the facepaint for what'll end up being a one-way, two week feud.

[Browning]

Whoever he's facing I just want this to be Undertaker's last match.

People say that every mania now.

[bruhnaldo]

Still pissed he laid his hat in the ring and all that shit when I went to WM in Orlando only to fucking redo it anyways.

[Disco]

People say that every mania now.

I've been saying it since he wrestled Punk, I question the sanity of anyone who wants to pay money to see him in 2019.

[Ian]

Everyone feels the same.


People say that every mania now.

Including me. I'm not sure if you're making a point or if it was just an observation.

Unrelated but I'm quite enjoying WhatCulture doing "X Ups and & Downs" for all the Wrestlemanias.

[Ian]

AJ calling the RKO a "knock-off Diamond Cutter." :drool:

EDIT:

Unrelated but I'm quite enjoying WhatCulture doing "X Ups and & Downs" for all the Wrestlemanias.

From Mania 2000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wN9cSosIIY

Never seen that before but that close is ace.

[Ian]

The last month or two of the Gargano / Ciampa feud has been a really weird way to get to the point that they're now at.

[Browning]

I was in America during Fastlane (not for it, thankfully...) and my debit card expired so I lost the network, but I have no desire to pay £10 to get it back and watch it. May stick it on around Mania time or something, or may just give it a miss. Didn't sound like it was up to much from the results, with Becky Vs Charlotte sounding especially shit.

[Ian]

It's definitely not worth getting FOR Fastlane. There are a few fun matches that may be worth a go around Mania time when you get the Network again if you've got an hour to kill but nothing to write home about.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I let mine lapse whilst on holiday too but I'll get it back today or tomorrow. Not specifically for Fastlane, more so for NXT ofc.

[Disco]

You will not find a more fun match than Cabana / Yano on Sunday, and no greater contrast with Sanada / Suzuki that followed it.

I also didn't realise that Mikey Nicholls was one half of TM61, not sure the NJ Cup constitutes spending more time with the family but he's been alright so far.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally catching up on what I've missed and thank fuck they've finally turned Rousey heel.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking Jezza.

What's the fucking point?

[Ian]

Lol. Angle's not going out on his back, then.

Even by the modern no-build standards of recent Wrestlemanias this one is looking spectacularly shit.

[Queenslander]

So Okada v Ospreay was epic.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally watched Fastlane and I was pleasantly surprised.

The two tag matches were alright (the RAW one slightly better and the Shane turn was shit), the US title and WWE championship matches were great. Mustafa was a fucking champ in the latter, he was selling like a beast.

Asuka/Rose was turd (what was that fucking finish?), Kofi/Bar was dull, Tamina/Nia are still useless and the Ronda/Lynch/Flair thing is still an overcomplicated mess.

[Disco]

NJ Cup final was ace, US title match that came before was a nice warmup too.

The final edges Yano/Cabana for my favourite match of the entire thing. Here's hoping Knife Crime Jim gets done in at MSG.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They've changed Mustafa Ali's name to 'Ali'.

I don't understand their obsession with having wrestlers with 1 name. Is it because the commentators are lazy? in the hopes Michael Cole might be able to make a catchphrase? Thinking the fans are morons and will relate more with them?

[Queenslander]

NJ Cup final was ace, US title match that came before was a nice warmup too.

The final edges Yano/Cabana for my favourite match of the entire thing. Here's hoping Knife Crime Jim gets done in at MSG.

Do you have an idea who might win at MSG? Im clueless at this stage.

[Ian]

They've changed Mustafa Ali's name to 'Ali'.

:moop:

I can't even begin to understand it. I can't even really think of any broken McMahon dementia-logic.

[Disco]

Do you have an idea who might win at MSG? Im clueless at this stage.

Not sure, I can't see Okada losing clean and they do seem to prefer keeping the big changes for Japan so it could easily be Knife Pervert via Gedo based shenanigans. Then again, Okada winning the title back at MSG makes a hell of a headline for what must be a very important show tor them.

I'll go for Okada to set up Naito vs Okada at WK for both belts.

[Queenslander]

Not sure, I can't see Okada losing clean and they do seem to prefer keeping the big changes for Japan so it could easily be Knife Pervert via Gedo based shenanigans. Then again, Okada winning the title back at MSG makes a hell of a headline for what must be a very important show tor them.

I'll go for Okada to set up Naito vs Okada at WK for both belts.

That does make the most sense.

I wonder what victories they'll give Jay going forward to keep him strong? G1 finals?

Can you see Ibushi winning the IC then dropping it back to Naito before WK?

[Ian]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2019/13/rogue-to-wrestler

This is starting tonight. May well be a load of shit but I'll probably give it a go.

[Disco]

That does make the most sense.

I wonder what victories they'll give Jay going forward to keep him strong? G1 finals?

Can you see Ibushi winning the IC then dropping it back to Naito before WK?

I must admit I hadn't thought about it that much, I just like the idea of Naito getting both belts at some stage.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've had part of SD spoiled for me.

I honestly have no idea what they're doing with the women's division across both brands right now.

[Gray Fox]

I think I can see where it's going, but without spoiling, I don't agree with what they've done.

[Ian]

Because I've been busier I've been in the habit of checking results and watching anything I care about on Raw / Smackdown recently but this week I'm going to try and avoid Smackdown spoilers because it's been pretty good and it'd be nice to at least be surprised with whatever nonsense they have Vince do next.

The Smackdown women's division has effectively been abandoned though, because they don't let Asuka actually do much and they've taken it's two biggest stars having made no effort to build up anybody else properly before hand.

[Ian]

Okay yeah I've watched Smackdown now and I've no fucking idea what's going on with the women's division. They wouldn't unify the belts would they? I think that'd be a good think at this point as they clearly aren't prepared to properly push two sets of people but they would probably think that would count as a step back in their glorious progressiveness.

There are a lot of options of things this could be doing but I find it hard to believe they take Charlotte out of the main event of Mania so that narrows the likely options somewhat.

EDIT: Also what the fuck is up with Stone Cold Mike Mizanin mullering about 12 people?

[Pleb]

So they finally gave Kofi Kingston a WWE title shot?

Can't be mad with that.

[Gray Fox]

Well not quite. Vince did say at the end of the show he still wasn't sure a "B+ player" could take on someone like Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania. There's 1 more Smackdown to go so expect 1 more gauntlet match or something.

As for the womens titles, I can only assume one of 2 outcomes.

1. They're unifying the titles. This makes the most sense of the 2 options. The Womens rumble proved there isn't really that many stars that could carry 2 big titles and then the tag titles as well.
2. They doing an angle trying to make Becky look even stronger in victory by being the only one without a title going into it.

They could do both at the same time, but who knows.

[Shindig]

They don't tend to allow stars to switch brands by going for either title at the PPV's, do they? I think they should.

[Disco]

This Kofi stuff is a bit mid-2000s Booker T, they will look quite bad if he doesn't win.

[Pleb]

Looking at the current card as it stands, it looks like a solid hot fucking mess. The Battle Royale is clearly going to Strowman unless some random NXT superstar gets called up and wins it instead (Adam Cole??). Mahow must be proper seething that his favourite 205 wrestler isn't in the Cruiserweight title picture so that's staying with Buddy Murphy. Triple Haitch putting his career on the line is fucking funny in itself so he'll win against Batista who only cares about promoting whatever fucking film is in his pipeline (Avengers Endgame?).

The Women's triple threat match can go either way so I'd imagine Vince wants that title put on Charlotte to keep her dad happy. I heard Rousey has gone heel which is :drool: in itself so hopefully she'll win it. Reigns-McIntyre sounded like it got thrown together last minute because Ambrose has pretty much not bothered signing another contract and fucked off, don't blame him really. Miz and Shane have broken up as a team I'm assuming and are now fist fighting each other for the memes. Samoa Joe and Bobby Lashley are now mid-card champions? Okay :D

Dunno what the point of Orton-AJ Styles is apart from maybe bums on seats and Kurt Angle's final match is against Baron Corbin? :face:

Oh yeah the women's division have a tag team title now?

Amazing.

[Ian]

It'll at least be better than that so long as Bryan doesn't hit a running knee then go for a hotdog before pinning him but Kofi winning would be the sensible thing, even if he probably then loses it back at the following PPV.

[Pleb]

It makes sense to give the title to Kofi so that the kids and youtube subscribers can go home from the event happy.

Lesnar keeps the Universal belt I am assuming?

[Ian]

He really fucking shouldn't so he definitely will, which will give Browning one thing to enjoy about the show anyway.

The card does look a fucking state though, in contrast to previous recent years where the card looks at least alright on paper but has no build. They've really leaned into it this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I don't have a favourite 205 guy since Mustafa Ali left.

It probably is now Buddy Murphy as he's so far ahead of the others although I would like Drew Gulak to hold the belt at one point.

Oh and Batista will win, he wouldn't come back just to lose and Haitch putting HIS CAREER ON THE LINE makes it even more likely.

[Ian]

*Ali.

HHH is winning. Part time heel vs a, ahem, babyface who's "owed" a win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well I'm hoping that if Haitch goes on to retire we'll get an ownership takeover storyline with him taking full control over Vince eventually.

Obviously it's a stupid and unrealistic dream as Vince is going until he dies.

[Ian]

Vince isn't retiring and while he's still capable of ambling about nor is HHH.

[Shindig]

That's a Wrestlemania 50 Match.

[SvN]

Trips main-evented Wrestlemania as WWE champion a couple of years ago. He's not retiring for another decade.

[Browning]

My money is also on HHH winning. I mean... he beat Sting for fuck sake.

When Lesnar retains.... :drool:

[Ian]

Good point. This would be a thousand times less ludicrous than the Sting victory.

What a career he had in WWE.

[Gray Fox]

Remember that time WWE finally got Sting to work for them and then Sting went over clean against HHH at Mania?

EDIT: Good to see we're all on the same page :D

[Disco]

Batista won last time they were at Wrestlemania so HHH is 10000000000% winning this time round. Plus it's Wrestlemania, there aren't going to be many heel wins.

[Shindig]

Remember that time WWE finally got Sting to work for them and then Sting went over clean against HHH at Mania?

EDIT: Good to see we're all on the same page :D

They booked it so the nWo helped him. The same side of the nWo that he was very much against through the late 90s. As they helped beat their mate Paul. It was ... not well considered. :D

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/wrestlemania-35/article/worlds-collide-wrestlemania-axxess?sf210068210=1

Strong/Breeze, Sanity/Undisputed Era, Storm/Cross/Belair are the matches I'm most looking forward too.

[Ian]

Dijakovic vs. Harper could be decent,

[Queenslander]

Suziki chopping the tits off Josh Barnett will be top 5 highlight of Wresmania Weekend.

[Ian]

#somehowabout

[Disco]

I'm looking forward to the MSG show and NXT, Wrestlemania itself will be fast forwarded through so I can skip all the dross.

[Queenslander]

#somehowabout

:(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm looking forward to the MSG show and NXT, Wrestlemania itself will be fast forwarded through so I can skip all the dross.

You're going to have to fast forward through about 90% I feel.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Properly lolled at how shit they made Rousey look with the mic drop/'and another thing' shit.

Samoa Joe is another they make look like an idiot on the regular with the same old clutch rollup things.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Big fan of the Dave Batista promo this week.

Edit: Oh and the Demon Balor thing is becoming so shit now. Last go round a squash against Corbin and now for Lashley when he won the IC title off him in a handicap match. It's stupid that he didn't use it against Baroque, I get that he and Vince want to PROTECT it but why wouldn't he use his ultimate weapon in the biggest matches?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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lol.

[Ian]

Well Rollins ended up on top after his run-in with Bork so that's him losing on Sunday.

Oh well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Accidentally stumbled on the next Takeover's Wiki page and I've had something spoiled for me but it has also confused me.

Played out fully last week.

I was miffed for two reasons. Firstly the team of Aleister Black and Ricochet although they then started teaming up on the main roster and they had a run in with Undisputed Era so that was explained. The second being that the Forgotten Sons got to win 2 matches and go to the final, I understood them beating Lorcan and Burch but don't know why they got the win over Moustache Mountain. Not that it matters as Black/O'Shea were always going to win but I'd have loved them fighting Moustache Mountain or even UE (with a change in the brackets) in the final.

[Ian]

I imagine it's just that this is the first time Forgotten Sons have done literally anything of note and they're actually going to start building them up from now even if they're not going to win the whole thing (though that wouldn't totally surprise me.)

[Ian]

I know that WWE loves breaking the 4th wall these days but I'm surprised they've let AJ talk about Keith's drug suspensions on TV.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I imagine it's just that this is the first time Forgotten Sons have done literally anything of note and they're actually going to start building them up from now even if they're not going to win the whole thing (though that wouldn't totally surprise me.)

But they're just so dull and shit.

[Disco]

The whole tag team competition was borked from the start, two teams of guys already called up to the main roster and one that's totally forgettable (it's even in the name!). So now we're left with a title match in which the result is either completely predictable or really fucking stupid.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It should have been Undisputed Era.

We've technically not had the match before (as Bobby Fish was teaming with KOR rather than Roddy) and it would have made a lot of sense seeing as they're saying that they're aiming to win all the gold this year.

Wouldn't have minded Aichner/Barthel either but it's probably a bit too soon for them.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

https://i.redd.it/q6m4ico3ixp21.jpg

Apparently he kept going back to the kid too :D

[Ian]

UE will at least for a month or so at some point, possibly at the back end of the year if they're not getting called up yet, hold all the gold.

Sanity sacrified to the Shane / Miz feud on Smackdown, losing a 3 on 1 falls count anyway handicap match against the Miz. :face:

[Disco]

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Almost makes we want to download Smackdown.

[Ian]

It was the weakest Smackdown in a long time. And not in a Raw-esque, puffing-out-of-the-cheeks "That's some going" sort of way, because Smackdown is generally pretty good.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

UE will at least for a month or so at some point, possibly at the back end of the year if they're not getting called up yet, hold all the gold.

Sanity sacrified to the Shane / Miz feud on Smackdown, losing a 3 on 1 falls count anyway handicap match against the Miz. :face:

I was going to say that at least they're on air and doing stuff but fuck me that was bad, they barely let them do anything.

[Queenslander]

Jim Ross has signed with AEW. I hope it isnt an on air role because his NJPW work was dire.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Jim Ross has signed with AEW. I hope it isnt an on air role because his NJPW work was dire.

Senior advisor apparently although it sounds like he's going to call Double or Nothing.

[Queenslander]

Senior advisor apparently although it sounds like he's going to call Double or Nothing.

Better than fulltime I guess.

[Shindig]

Probably scouting for 10's again.

[Queenslander]

It is kinda fucked that the Wrestling industry hasnt been #metoo

[Shindig]

Well, they've got a whiff of mainstream terror due to that John Oliver segment. Wrestling still occupies the same space as porn, to me. They don't get held to the same standards because the mainstream don't pay it any attention. They worked Saudi Arabia at the worst possible time and the only people that cared weren't major outlets. It's only the steroid scandal that's really reached prominence and that's because wrestling was never bigger.

[Queenslander]

Damn Ill check my mate John Oliver out. Wasnt aware when he came back.

Thanks

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Revival are putting their titles on the line against Hawkins/Ryder at Mania because reasons.

I bet they're fucking going to have Hawkins finally get a win too.

[Ian]

Yeah they're definitely losing that. Jesus wept.

Still, it'll be mercifully short because Hunter needs his 35 minute epic against Dave.

[Gray Fox]

We should take guesses for the theme of HHHs entrance.

Big Dave could always have something Avengers themed, but Trips is not to be outdone. I suppose there is another Terminator film out this year. Can't think he'd want to be caught in the same dress twice at the big ball though.

[Ian]

Maybe he'll come out as Thanos, complete with Infinity Gauntlet and with a snap of his fingers he'll kill the pushes of half the roster.

[Ian]

I'm only kidding, of course. Not even half the roster is getting what you could call a push.

[Gray Fox]

Of course, their push has been cancelled to give more time for his entrance.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Going for Adam Cole, War Raiders, Dream, Io Shirai and sadly as I don't want Dunne to lose, WALTER.

[Gray Fox]

Are we having a Wrestlemania Pick 'em?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was going to put up the matches tomorrow but if you fancy doing it...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My word what a tag match that was.

Edit: Dunne/Walter was stiffer than anyone could have thought, the double stomp from Dunne to the outside and Walter's stomp to Dunne's throat especially so.

Well that is probably the best Takeover yet, glorious stuff.

[Queenslander]

UE needs to break up. To many quality match ups left on the table.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

No, I need them getting a proper push on the main roster first.

I fucking love proper stables.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal - Asuka
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal - Boatman
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins ugh
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch

[Mike]

Not watched any WWE since the Rumble I don’t think, other than the odd Becky Lynch highlight. Am I going to enjoin Mania? Going to watch NXT tomorrow.

[Disco]

Yellow Peter vs Walter was match of the night, entrance of the night and coat of the night all rolled into one. Great stuff.

[Ian]

Takeover was tremendous, as usual.

The womens match was a bit weak by their own high standards and I haven't really been into the way the Gargano story developed latterly and due to the Ciampa injury I was less invested in the main event than I might otherwise have been but it was still good. The first three matches were all sensational in their own way.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yellow Peter vs Walter was match of the night, entrance of the night and coat of the night all rolled into one. Great stuff.

Blasphemy.

The Statue of Velveteen was the best entrance.

[igor_balis]

Fuck, tomorrow's gonna be an ordeal isn't it? I'm gonna be watching it with a couple of mates and shall be drinking, but I need to pace myself. If I just followed my instincts I'd probably be fucked before the end of the pre-show.

[Pleb]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal...uh...Alexis Bliss or is she not wrestling anymore? Actually fuck it one of the Bellas for shock factor.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal...Brawn Boatstrongman of The Rock or 50 Cent or fuck it give it all to Vince.
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins...I know right because we need a WrestleMania moment god damn it.
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura (this is a team? :D)
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza...where's John Cenah?
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)...fucking kill me.
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio < isn't he injured?
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)...uh Wrestling wins in this match.
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre...fuck me this card is fucking shite.
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston <Co main event right lads? RIGHT?
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins...Ian's going to have a MELTDOWN over Lesnar winning.
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch...can't fucking call it. Wouldn't be mad if they keep it on Flair's hot sexy daughter.

[Gray Fox]

Hot and sexy? Becky Lynch though.

[Pleb]

Again I really can't call it.

All three are :drool: :wub: though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Rey has been cleared (I checked before I put the matches up and I'm disappointed as I had convinced myself they'd add Mustafa Ali, Andrade Almas and Kevin Owens) and there's no chance that Bork isn't the co-main. He's probably seething as it is having to go before the women.

[Pleb]

WWE/Universal/Womens/Haitch will probably be co main event due to the bullshit 6 to 8 hours put on this event.

Vince is loving every minute of this.

[Gray Fox]

I still think they pull co-main event bollocks and have the women on just before Brock v Rollins.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They'd get such a backlash, I'm sure Vince is dying to do it but everyone else is pulling him back.

Not that Vince would give a shit ofc.

[Pleb]

Fan invaded the stage during Bret Hart's HOF speech :|

[Gray Fox]

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That's the aftermath.

Once he gets backstage he's getting those fucking hands.

[7om]

Just seen another camera angle on Twitter and someone (looks like Dash Wilder) KOd him with a nasty uppercut as he was being dragged away. Davey Boy Smith Jr got a nice few shots in aswell.

He must've known he was going to get the shit beat out of him.

[Gray Fox]

First guy that got to him was Travis Browne. Got some good ground on pound on the guy too.

You've got to be thick as fuck to do that with all the WWE guys right there. He'd better hope the police got to him backstage before the talent went back there.

[7om]

Really don't know what he was playing at.

Rushing a 60 year old man and his niece, who is representing her recently deceased father, surrounded by meat heads and MMA fighters. Lol if he thought nothing would happen because it was being streamed live on the Network. I hope he got everything he deserved.

[Ian]

Fuck, tomorrow's gonna be an ordeal isn't it? I'm gonna be watching it with a couple of mates and shall be drinking, but I need to pace myself. If I just followed my instincts I'd probably be fucked before the end of the pre-show.

You're watching it LIVE? Fucking hell.

[Queenslander]

Enzo and Cass did a worked shoot invasion at the end of tag titles match at MSG.

They are actually a perfect fit for ROH atm.

[Shindig]

Who could possibly want to bumrush Bret Hart? EDIT: Repeat offender. He tried to do the same to Rollins. What a massive flange.

[Mike]

Signed up to the network trial for the third year in a row. Just stuck NXT on. Not watched any wrestling since the Rumble I don’t think.

[Browning]

Who could possibly want to bumrush Bret Hart?

Anyone who has ever suffered through one of his matches, I guess. I’ve never got the hype. Even his match with Austin puts me to sleep. I guess you had to be there...

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You're watching it LIVE? Fucking hell.

I'm going to attempt it too.

[Disco]

Madness. Not just the timing but having to sit through all the interminable shite they pad the show out with.

[Browning]

I’m considering it but probably won’t make it.

[Ian]

I didn't know TTH had so much self loathing.

Just watch it tomorrow and skip through at least two hours of crap even if you insist on watching all the actual matches.

Also won't it finish at knocking on 6am or some such?

[Shindig]

I'll wait for the OSW recap.

[SvN]

I'm going to start it, but I have no intention of seeing it through to the end. I have a massive day at work tomorrow and I'm off on holiday Tuesday so I can't really afford to be a zombie tomorrow.

[Mike]

I’ll watch it tomorrow, I’m off work, I’ll watch it over 2 sittings and skip the guff.

[igor_balis]

You're watching it LIVE? Fucking hell.

Off work Monday and Tuesday and watching it with the beerz and the boyz is the only way I'm going to get any joy out of it.

[Spikey M]

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That's the aftermath.

Once he gets backstage he's getting those fucking hands.

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He took some shots. Shane Mac :drool:

[Ian]

Shane Mac :drool:

Stupid bastard rushed the ring when THE BEST IN THE WORLD was in there.

[phonics]

I really do not understand NXT's hype. There was some bloke called Johnny Wrestling that looked about as hard as I am taking on Jay from Jay & Silent Bob as the main event.

[Baz]

Anyone who has ever suffered through one of his matches, I guess. I’ve never got the hype. Even his match with Austin puts me to sleep. I guess you had to be there...
Have you watch it with Austin talking over it? One of my favourite videos on the internet.


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ap2si

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really do not understand NXT's hype. There was some bloke called Johnny Wrestling that looked about as hard as I am taking on Jay from Jay & Silent Bob as the main event.

Have you watched an event? Especially the one the other night in New York.

I've heard some that didn't get WALTER/Dunne as it's completely different to the current style but it was probably my favourite match.

[phonics]

I downloaded it when I came home pissed the other night and found myself fast forwarding through it all. Feels low stakes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So you've not even bothered to judge it fairly.

Well played.

[Disco]

I really do not understand NXT's hype. There was some bloke called Johnny Wrestling that looked about as hard as I am taking on Jay from Jay & Silent Bob as the main event.

The main roster is (mostly) such a pile of hot garbage that anything resembling sensible booking and matches containing some semblance of narrative seems like the second coming of grapple-christ.

Edit: FFS, at least give it a proper chance you mong. :D

[Disco]

I'm with Mahow too, Dunne / VValter was the match of the night, closely followed by the tag match that opened the show, those big lads are something else.

[Ian]

I could probably make a case for any of the first three matches.

[Spikey M]

I fastforwarded through something once. I can confirm that it was shit.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I could probably make a case for any of the first three matches.

Yeah, I'm not sure why Gargano/Cole is getting as much love as it's getting. Quality match but I think it was a clear number 4.

The pacing for the first two falls wasn't right, the first two falls were also pretty tame and I didn't like Gargano channelling prime Cena and Roman to kick out of everything.

[Gray Fox]

How long until this thing kicks off then?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Kick off show has started.

Also, fuck you all bar Pleb for not doing any picks.

Especially you Fox for asking for it, nonce.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and pissing Sam is on the kick off show, ugh.

[Baz]

Paige's voice is strange.

[Browning]

Pat McAfee.... for fuck sake.

[Mike]

Who’s this bellend in a white suit jacket and shorts?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Pat McAfee.... for fuck sake.

I think this is his first MAIN ROSTER PPV. He's usually shitting it up along with Sam on the NXT ones.

[bruhnaldo]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese

The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal: Asuka I guess

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal: EDIT: Give me young Ali

Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins

SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura

Kurt Angle vs. Jezza - I think somehow John Cena comes out for this instead of BaRoN cOrBiN

The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)

Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics - I bet Sasha and Bayley retain but I love the IIconics so much

United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs Rey Mysterio - they have Rey as one of the superstars on the "SMACKDOWN COMING TO FOX" promos so I'm just guessing

Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor - Lashley retains and Balor becomes apart of the main title picture again

AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton

Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)

Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre - I bet they'll try to swerve the crowd and then give Roman this big fuckin ROAD TO REDEMPTION story about how he's been so drained cause of the cancer he has to #REBUILD

WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston

Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins - they don't have the fuckin balls

Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch - Charlotte wins, Ronda fucks off, Becky v Charlotte is the new feud leading up to SummerSlam i.e, "I've had to work for all I got! vs. You've had everything handed to you!"

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

HERO.

3 total entries.

[Ian]

Here you go, Mahow:

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal: I'll say Asuka but given how pointless these are this may be when they have Evans actually do something.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal- Probably those sodding SNL twats
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins. Sigh.
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura - Not certain for this one. If O'Shea / Black don't win they're not eating the pinfall. That'll probably be poor Rusev.
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre - Wouldn't be surprised to see this go to a non-finish. I don't think Reigns loses though.
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch

I've got too many faces winning there, I think. And I'm not really sold on how I think either match will go. Rollins and Kofi both ought to be winning and have your downer results elsewhere.


Yeah, I'm not sure why Gargano/Cole is getting as much love as it's getting. Quality match but I think it was a clear number 4.

The pacing for the first two falls wasn't right, the first two falls were also pretty tame and I didn't like Gargano channelling prime Cena and Roman to kick out of everything.

Yeah I thought the end made UE look a bit rubbish. Should've had that midway through or for Cole's first fall then the ref chuck them all out, have Gargano kick out of Cole's attempt at a quick second fall because he's had time to recover and then go from there.

[bruhnaldo]

Eww them doing this interview like this scares me.

If New Day breaks up i'ma be fuckin sad af

[Mike]

I’ve never watched a preshow before. Are they always this bad?

[Browning]

Yes, they are.

[Gray Fox]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal: Fuck knows. Ember moon or something.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal. Kevin Owens
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere) (BEST IN THE WORLD)
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch.

Going for the full, fuck you, I'm Vince and it's my show, card.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yep.

4 matches (2 of which are battle royals) and there's so much bullshit spouted from panellists.

Pre-show matches are usually pretty good too but always way too short.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ember Moon is injured still I believe.

[Gray Fox]

Erm in that case the one they keep wheeling out for 30 seconds. Lacey Evans?

[Pleb]

Cruiserweight Championship as a pre show match :harold:

Get fucked Mahow.

[Browning]

Champion out first for the opening match..... good start.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Cruiserweight Championship as a pre show match :harold:

Get fucked Mahow.

They always do.

I don't understand it as it's always a banger. Would go over really well as the first match on the main card.

[Browning]

It's less important than an advert for the Women's match.

[Baz]

It's less important than an advert for the Women's match.

:lol:

[Mike]

Cruiserweight Championship: Buddy Murphy (c) vs. Tony Nese
The glorious empowering Women after decades of shitting on them Battle Royal: Someone I don’t know.
Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal- Same
Raw Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) vs. Zack Ryder & Curt Hawkins.
SmackDown Tag Team Championship: The Usos (c) vs. Ricochet & Aleister Black vs. The Bar vs. Rusev & Shinsuke Nakamura
Kurt Angle vs. Jezza
The Miz vs. Shane McMahon (Falls Count Anywhere)
Women's Tag Team Championship: Sasha Banks & Bayley (c) vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya vs. Nia Jax & Tamina vs. The IIconics
United States Championship: Samoa Joe (c) vs. Rey Mysterio
Intercontinental Championship: Bobby Lashley (c) vs. Finn Balor
AJ Styles vs. Randy Orton
Triple H vs. Batista (No Holds Barred)
Roman Reigns vs. Drew McIntyre
WWE Championship: Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Kofi Kingston
Universal Championship: Brock Lesnar (c) vs. Seth Rollins
Raw, SmackDown Women's Championships: Ronda Rousey (c) vs. Charlotte Flair (c) vs. Becky Lynch

[Mike]

The first match is underway as I posted that. I’ve filled it in only knowing who was in one match.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll allow it.

[Ian]

0/1. :drool:

That was not an especially good match or finish.

[Pleb]

A shit wrestler with a shit attire gets a Championship belt :D

The Women's tag match should either be next or the first ACTUAL match of the show :sherlock:

[Gray Fox]

Solid start.

[bruhnaldo]

the Neville-Austin Aries match from 2 years ago was fucking awesome though*

* - and not just because i was there :drool:

[Gray Fox]

That's BASTARD PAC to you now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Solid but unspectacular.

The previous Cruiserweight matches on PPVs (especially Mustafa/Cedric last Mania) were better.