The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Todays afternoon musing: Bianca Belair.

What is an 'Est' and why is she one? Also, how do we feel about the hair? It doesn't seem quite within the spirit of the rules to me but then again it is in a 'Universe' where Big Show was allowed to have a hand cast in the shape of a club and Lex Luger got a metal plate installed in his arm.

I don't like the whole 'EST' thing but she has a lot of potential.

Also, Andrade Cien Almas having a match with AJ :drool: They worked the match really well and I hope he gets a big push as he looks quality.

[Pleb]

Vince will instantly shit on that program unless his son in law steps in.

[Disco]

I don't like the whole 'EST' thing but she has a lot of potential.

Also, Andrade Cien Almas having a match with AJ :drool: They worked the match really well and I hope he gets a big push as he looks quality.

But what does it mean?

[Browning]

Seemingly it just means “best”.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

That she's the bEST, the strongEST, the fastEST etc.

Seemingly they haven't thought about the fact that makes her the weakest or the slowest etc too.

I didn't get it for a while until a commentator explained what she meant by the EST.

[Disco]

Oh I see, they could probably have been a bit clearer with that. :D

She is great though, there's some really interesting wrestlers in that division.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yep.

I fucking love me some Kairi Sane, especially with her new submission.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Dakota Kai pisses me off so much now after her meek bullshit with Shayna.

[Disco]

Pirate Lady and Toni Storm are particularly good, Mrs Wrestling is also decent.

[Ian]

Sane is great. She's definitely going to ruin her body with that amazing elbow drop though.

[Shindig]

She'll just switch arms like a pro.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Here are the names announced for the second Mae Young Classic:

Deonna Purrazzo
Io Shirai
Jessie Elaban
Jinny
Kacy Catanzaro
Kaitlyn
Nicole Matthews
Reina Gonzalez
Rhea Ripley
Tegan Nox.

I decided to write them as I knew 10 names were announced and I assumed 12 would be the final tally. It's going to be 32 though.

I'd imagine that Toni Storm, Isla Dawn and Killer Kelly will be announced as they performed at the UK Championship. I can also see them announcing Marina Shafir (just found out she's married to Roderick Strong too) and Jessamyn Duke to complete THE FOUR HORSEWOMEN set as they've been training for a few months at the performance centre.

Can't see past Io Shirai though.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImpossibleTangibleAmericanshorthair-size_restricted.gif

Tombstone with a moonsault to Shayna there.

[Gray Fox]

I've missed nothing about any variant of Orton.

To be fair to Mahow, he didn't have to put up with those many, many tedious years of Orton v Cena.

[Queenslander]

Between this and NXT UK you buggers have it so good.

http://i63.tinypic.com/1zxwac7.jpg

[Shindig]

Gimmick Jr. :D

[Spikey M]

Might give it a go.

[Disco]

Joe Hendry and Martin Kirby should be the best things on that.

[wullie]

The pilot they did a while ago had a proper panto 80s feel to it, this looks like they're taking it more serious. ITV though innit

[Disco]

It was like the Generation Game does wrestling with a really odd studio audience. This seems like a better setup.

[Queenslander]

New Japan World is free for tonights G1.

Gee Id love to be their paid Australian hype man!

[Shindig]

It was like the Generation Game does wrestling with a really odd studio audience. This seems like a better setup.

I still think there's a hint of that now that Davey Boy Smith Jr going full Bulldog. Because they fucking hammered that home in the first run. "It's BRITISH BULLDOG'S SON WITH THE SAVE!" every week. I get that they might not have a smarky audience (which is cool because fuck that crowd) but it fucking kills any chance of him being a character.

[Disco]

New Japan World is free for tonights G1.

Gee Id love to be their paid Australian hype man!

It's been grand so far. Omega v Goto and Ibushi v Juice were fantastic yesterday. Special mention for Naito, the man is on fire recently.

[Queenslander]

It's been grand so far. Omega v Goto and Ibushi v Juice were fantastic yesterday. Special mention for Naito, the man is on fire recently.

Elgin has the most terrifying chops.

[Disco]

Red Shoes :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/7pBFm2T.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Liked the ending of the women's main event on NXT but it's a shame Bianca Belair had to miss it.

[Browning]

And the award for weirdest indy match ever booked goes to.... (spoilered for potentially big image)



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DifYNTwWAAA8zQ6?format=jpg

[Disco]

Does Dave Benson Phillips still have that weird list of stuff he wants to swap for washing machines and fridges and stuff?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Gunge attack as his finisher :drool:

[Ian]

Elgin has the most terrifying chops.

Strong's on Bryan weren't too shabby in the Human Rights Royal Rumble.

[Queenslander]

Strong's on Bryan weren't too shabby in the Human Rights Royal Rumble.

Ill have to find it. There is something so satisfying watching these nutjobs slap each other silly.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bryan's chest at the end looked like someone had taken a rake to it.

[Ian]

Ill have to find it. There is something so satisfying watching these nutjobs slap each other silly.

Can't find decent quality of the chops themselves but the result was:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYQlosSBGQU

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I just looked for the chops and found this instead:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZyndQmrpkY

:lol:

[Queenslander]

Can't find decent quality of the chops themselves but the result was:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYQlosSBGQU

:drool:

[Queenslander]

Suzuki slapped concussion into Yoshi Hashi last night that was very uncomfortable veiwing. I dont know how to post it from my phone.

https://twitter.com/njpwworld/status...558215168?s=09

[Queenslander]

i just looked for the chops and found this instead:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyndqmrpky

:lol:

pwg! Pwg! Pwg!

[Disco]

Suzuki slapped concussion into Yoshi Hashi last night that was very uncomfortable veiwing. I dont know how to post it from my phone.

https://twitter.com/njpwworld/status...558215168?s=09

I reckon I know what sequence that was, I really did not expect a Yoshi Hashi match to be as good as that was.

[Queenslander]

He had a cracker against Naito early this year. The bloke can definitely go when he is up against those top of the card wrestlers.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Word is that Stephanie is going to announce an all female PPV (with Vs directed at Saudi Arabia) and/or female tag team belts on Monday night.

I originally thought tag belts would be stupid as there are about 1/2 teams on each division but they'll be defended across all brands (including NXT and NXT UK).

[Ian]

(with Vs directed at Saudi Arabia)

Yeah, take THAT guys they've got a lengthy, lucrative deal with!!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

You forgot 'WOMEN'S REVOLUTION'.

[Browning]

So did they when they signed that deal.

[Shindig]

Next year's event books itself.

WOMEN INVASION. Women win with outside interference from James Ellsworth.

[Queenslander]

Disco Do you find Tama Tonga to be a massive cornball? It cant be just me that finds his overacting a bit much.

[Disco]

I think it's ok in this kind of storyline, can't say I've noticed it very much before now.

Goto v Ishii was the surprise of yesterdays show, two solid gentlemen knocking the shit out of each other for far longer than you would have thought possible. Sanada v ZSJ and Yano v Ibush also very good.

[Queenslander]

Impacts Slammiversary seems to have been a cracker of a PPV.

[Queenslander]

Matthew Riddle has signed for NXT apparently. :cool:

[Disco]

I do find it strange that people like that go into a developmental program, he's one of the more original indie guys around so I hope some of that survives.

[Queenslander]

I was thinking NXT has to be his ceiling in WWE. No chance he is getting over on the big 2.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Don't know anything about his wrestling skills but he was pretty decent in MMA. He did come across as a twat though.

Looking at his finishing/signature moves on Wiki he still is a twat.

[Queenslander]

His pancrase thing v Suzuki was a bit a fun.

[Disco]

They had a match at Bloodsport too, in a ring with no ropes. Odd setup but very good, Suzuki did not seem to enjoy his chops.

[Queenslander]

Whoops I meant that one. The setup was a great visual and was obviously another reason to love Suzuki.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lesnar/Reigns again. YESSSSSS.

JUST WHAT WE NEEDED.

[wullie]

Another Lesnar win or briefcase shenanigans surely, can't see Reigns walking out as champion after the terrible attempts at an underdog story.

[Disco]

Lesnar/Reigns again.

Lol

[Gray Fox]

He's just going to continue shoving it down your throats until you swallow. Throwing it back up only delays the inevitable.

[Disco]

Join us and truly complete your #trajectory.

[Browning]

Lesnar to win and overcome the cash in. He’s the greatest man in wrestling ever.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Join us and truly complete your #trajectory.

I've actually been thinking about watching a bit of NJPW. Fuck knows where to start though. I had a quick look at the app and there's shit loads there.

[Disco]

Start with the first G1 (July 14th) and go from there.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

What about all the Okada/Omega mega wankathon matches?

[Baz]

That first one. :drool:

[Queenslander]

Start with the first G1 (July 14th) and go from there.

This is the best bet. Probably best to play catch up later?

Naito, Omega, Suzuki, Jay White, Juice Robinson and Okada all worth your time. Backstage shoot promos are also helpful with what is happening.

[Disco]

Nothing wrong with going back and watching some of the big matches but you won't have any context for them (although if you do, definitely watch them in order), starting with the regular shows will give you a far better idea of what it's like.

[Pleb]

Who's got the briefcase again?

Vince?

[Disco]

What about all the Okada/Omega mega wankathon matches?

If you do want some extra background on some of NJPW then this guys videos are very good (yes he does have a weird voice, no they aren't on youtube).

https://vimeo.com/showbuckle

[wullie]

I love Batista


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wo4wGWd3RU

[Disco]

Going purely by the title I really hope he's playing James Alexander-Gordon.

[bruhnaldo]

who's got the briefcase again?

Vince?

braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu unnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[bruhnaldo]

imagine my last post in all caps

[Shindig]

I read that trailer as 35,000 Batistas. Also, another film that associates West Ham with ugly violence. Good.

[Boydy]

Anyone watching this WOS stuff on ITV?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'll be watching it later, I'm hoping it's good.

[Gray Fox]

It was good/popular enough to make WWE start a UK division and have a UK title.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bastard Tivo didn't record it.

Apparently there's a repeat at 10:50 in the morning though.

[Browning]

It was decent enough for a first episode. Ospreay was obviously the highlight (as he always is) but the Hendry/Kirby thing was odd. It's like their going to feud again but with opposite roles which I'd probably find strange given Hendry is much more suited to the heel role than Kirby is.

[wullie]

The production was a bit mad, camera cuts and replays every other second.

[Boydy]

I thought it all seemed pretty amateurish but Ospreay was good. I stopped watching after that match though.

[Pleb]

Wade Barrett should stay behind the commentary box though. Really can't take him seriously as a Triple H authority clone.

Obviously Ospreay and Bulldog jr stole the episode. They should of used Crater a lot more though.

[Trancemeister]

Nikolai Volkoff & Brian Lawler (Grandmaster Sexay) both passed away today.

[Gray Fox]

The latter hung himself in prison. I've only just found out with this that he is Jerry Lawlers son.

You know it's bad when the WWF lot are struggling to get past 50.

[Ian]

The production was a bit mad, camera cuts and replays every other second.

I suppose Kevin Dunn needs something to do when he's not working WWE TV.

[Ian]

The production was a bit mad, camera cuts and replays every other second.

I suppose Kevin Dunn needs something to do when he's not working WWE TV.


I've only just found out with this that he is Jerry Lawlers son..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjx72ZhnKWU

His part in this is one of the most tragic things you'll ever see.

The dancing, the lack of pop, all of it.

EDIT: And of course it features Heel Cole.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Apparently he was only in jail for a DUI. There must be more (in the sentence or he was mentally fucked) because that's pretty light.

[Ian]

Fucking hell. Is Bork being a bit of a dick to Heyman all it takes to get a decent chunk of the crowd to boo Lesnar then chant for Reigns?

[SvN]

I suppose Kevin Dunn needs something to do when he's not working WWE TV.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjx72ZhnKWU

His part in this is one of the most tragic things you'll ever see.

The dancing, the lack of pop, all of it.

EDIT: And of course it features Heel Cole.

It's the Grandmaster Sexay dancing combined with a shirt and jeans that does it.

[Lewis]

I've always loved that clip. I bet he re-lived it as he died.

[Gray Fox]

Fucking hell. Is Bork being a bit of a dick to Heyman all it takes to get a decent chunk of the crowd to boo Lesnar then chant for Reigns?

To be fair, it's taken a good 2 years to get to this point. This is a combination of people being sick of Lesnar overall and Roman just happening to be the guy he's facing. It'd probably be the same if this were Baron Corbin.

But if you take away Heyman that pretty much is Lesnar. The guy himself has probably had about an hours worth of ringtime and said maybe a paragraph throughout the title reign.

Best case scenario is Reigns wins and immediately gets crushed by Strowman.

[Browning]

No, the best case scenario is Lesnar wins, Strowman cashes in, Lesnar beats him too, then Hogan WM9s it, and still loses.

Then we can see all the crybabies moaning non-stop on every single wrestling related post/tweet/forum etc and it'll be glorious.

[Gray Fox]

I could genuinely see them doing the 2 sport champion thing, if he didn't have a 6 month ban to serve in UFC. I don't see them being able to make this last another 6 months.

Though saying that, PPV wise there's nothing big until the Rumble(I don't think Survivor Series is what is once was) and it wouldn't be much beyond that so fuck it, why not?

[Lewis]

No, the best case scenario is Lesnar wins, Strowman cashes in, Lesnar beats him too, then Hogan WM9s it, and still loses.

Then we can see all the crybabies moaning non-stop on every single wrestling related post/tweet/forum etc and it'll be glorious.

:drool:

[Ian]

I can't even imagine what somebody moaning non-stop in every one of their wrestling-related posts would look like.

[phonics]

Artists rendering of that drive-by murder:

https://i.imgur.com/rUWn50H.png

[Browning]

I saw that coming :D

Eventually, I learned to give up wrestling, because it's never going to be good again. Now I just follow it via Cultaholic, and laugh at the million Brock related threads that get started every day just for people to cry about him. I mean, he's not even on the fucking show, just ignore him. I can understand moaning about the product being consistently shit (obviously) but I can't understand getting your panties in a bunch over the fact you don't get to see the shiny belt on a weekly basis.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well it is a bit shit that the MAIN CHAMPION is never fucking there.

If it wasn't Kayfabe land he'd have been stripped ages ago.

Hard to have a go at a legitimate complaint.

[Browning]

It’s not a legitimate complaint though. His matches feel bigger because he’s never there. If he was there every week they would quickly ruin him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Keeping him away a bit more than other guys is fine, but he's not even turning up once a month.

Fuck him and fuck Vince.

[Browning]

Vince knows he’s the only legitimate star they have, other than Ronda. He’s booking him perfectly to keep him as a star attraction. Obviously in an idea world WWE world hire decent bookers who could book Brock every week and not ruin him but in this reality even if Brock was there every week he would probably be approaching match 57 against Reigns (the previous 56 being split 28-28 with Reigns winning the non title ones or by DQ) and no one would care anymore.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm not saying Brock being there would fix things (I'd rather have a different champion and Brock just retired), Triple H taking over would though.

The things he's done with 205 and NXT are constantly showing up stuff on the TOP TWO shows.

[phonics]

I saw that coming :D

Eventually, I learned to give up wrestling, because it's never going to be good again. Now I just follow it via Cultaholic, and laugh at the million Brock related threads that get started every day just for people to cry about him. I mean, he's not even on the fucking show, just ignore him. I can understand moaning about the product being consistently shit (obviously) but I can't understand getting your panties in a bunch over the fact you don't get to see the shiny belt on a weekly basis.

Don't you think seeing it through the eye of the kind of nutter who posts there is part of what's influenced your feelings on that front though? It's the 1% of the 1% of the 1%, it's like having your opinions on football be informed by people calling in 606. Of course you'd think everyone was shit/in crisis/overpaid.

[Shindig]

Nah, you see it in the crowds as well. They turn up to be disappointed, smarky twats.

[Ian]

The crowds certainly don't help.

My personal issue with Brock is only his absence in a minor way. Because he used to be an absentee champ but turned up and you got a good match. He's fucking good when he can be arsed (or when he's made to be arsed.) Even his stuff on Raw there was pretty decent heel stuff.

How come you haven't tried Indies or NJPW, Browning? Or have you and you weren't keen?

[wullie]

I liked how the episode centred around Brock not wanting to do anything in WWE is the most he's done on an episode in years. I much prefer him reading fishing magazines and threatening everyone in sight over the usual routine of bouncing about in silence while Heyman says something and then fucking off. I'm going with Owens to come away as champ.

[Ian]

I loved how they hoped him asking "Why would I watch the show?" would be an alienating move.

[Queenslander]

NJPW, ROH, RevPro, PWG, Impact and the Indies in general have such a healthy positive vibe amongst the fans for the most part.

Smarks seem to only exist within the WWE universe.

[Disco]

Well it is a bit shit that the MAIN CHAMPION is never fucking there.

Cena will be back eventually don't worry.

[Browning]

To Phonic’s point, me quitting altogether is a very recent thing. I don’t got my opinions from these people, the only reason I really read it is because I enjoy the content that the channel puts out, but even that is getting boring now. Basically the only joy I get from WWE these days (except for Ronda, who is amazing) is reading them acting like the apocalypse is happening every time Brock retains, so long may it continue.

As for the indies, I tend to go to Indy shows if Ospreay is on them and they are local. I’ve always enjoyed it, but I struggle to get into the same shows if I watch them online instead of being there. I’m not sure why I’ve not tried NJPW, but it’s probably because I don’t really have the time for it anymore anyway.

[Queenslander]

To Phonic’s point, me quitting altogether is a very recent thing. I don’t got my opinions from these people, the only reason I really read it is because I enjoy the content that the channel puts out, but even that is getting boring now. Basically the only joy I get from WWE these days (except for Ronda, who is amazing) is reading them acting like the apocalypse is happening every time Brock retains, so long may it continue.

As for the indies, I tend to go to Indy shows if Ospreay is on them and they are local. I’ve always enjoyed it, but I struggle to get into the same shows if I watch them online instead of being there. I’m not sure why I’ve not tried NJPW, but it’s probably because I don’t really have the time for it anymore anyway.

If you want to dip your toe in a bit you might enjoy ALL IN next month. It is going to be a modern day Starrcade booked and funded by the Young Bucks and Cody.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finally got round to watching last week's NXT last night. The main event was brilliantly worked.

Sets it all up nicely for the next takeover and the reaction of the crowd at the end :drool:

[Ian]

NJPW, ROH, RevPro, PWG, Impact and the Indies in general have such a healthy positive vibe amongst the fans for the most part.

Smarks seem to only exist within the WWE universe.

There is definitely an element of self-satisfaction with some of this though, just as there is with anything when people are confident they're into the better thing.

Of course the variety of wrestling for different tastes makes it easier for people to find something they like whereas I imagine a lot of non-child WWE fans are like me where force of habit is still enough to counter the fact that it's a bit crap at least half the time and only genuinely good maybe 5% of the time just now. I should really be watching NXT properly because I love the Takeovers and given I get through WWE TV shows in about half their running time I have room for some more wrestling in my life.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Start with last week's.

They started setting up things for Takeover and the main event is seriously quality.

Actually the the week before as the Undisputed Era/Moustache Mountain rematch was great.

[Queenslander]

There is definitely an element of self-satisfaction with some of this though, just as there is with anything when people are confident they're into the better thing.

Of course the variety of wrestling for different tastes makes it easier for people to find something they like whereas I imagine a lot of non-child WWE fans are like me where force of habit is still enough to counter the fact that it's a bit crap at least half the time and only genuinely good maybe 5% of the time just now. I should really be watching NXT properly because I love the Takeovers and given I get through WWE TV shows in about half their running time I have room for some more wrestling in my life.

Yeah that is fair. The Japanese fans and you British are clearly better than the Americans though.

The NXT commitment is the perfect amount of wrestling.

[wullie]

https://i.imgur.com/BBR9bXS.jpg


http://i28.tinypic.com/9ir3uq.jpg

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Tastefully done.

[Ian]

Reading rumours that WWE have signed Matt Riddle, who I have heard of but not seen. Any good?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Was in MMA (including the UFC for a while) and he's a massive cunt.

No idea about his pro wrestling skills though.

[Queenslander]

Reading rumours that WWE have signed Matt Riddle, who I have heard of but not seen. Any good?

He is good fun. His rivalry with Suzuki being my favourite.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just got NJPW and will start with this G1 (thanks for the recommendation, Disco), the collection of everything on the site is pretty damn overwhelming right now.

[Disco]

The site itself is a bit of a clusterfuck, I use an extension called NJPWext which is supposed to improve it a bit. I haven't tried going back into the archives to find anything specific, I can imagine that would be a bit of a trial.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm using it on Amazon Fire TV so that isn't an option sadly.

They've won me over with the Japanese intro to the event.

The way the guy says G1 Climax 28 :drool:

[bruhnaldo]

Smackers is in Orlando on Tuesday, considering going as I've done Raw before but never SD.

Apparently the main events are

a 3 man tag between AJ Styles, Nak, Randy Orton, The Miz, Jeff Hardy, and Samoa Joe or some shit... plus !!!! Asuka v Carmella lmfao

Can't say i'm fuckin thrilled.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Go and stay for 205 Live which will be better.

NXT > 205 > Smackdown > RAW.

That's the shows ranked right now.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

NJPW fans, how many titles are there?

Third undercard match and I've seen two titles.

[Disco]

NJPW fans, how many titles are there?

Third undercard match and I've seen two titles.

It's split into Heavyweight and Junior Heavyweight divisions (with some crossover in tag matches and occasionally singles) with several titles:

Heavyweight title (Omega) - Top title
Intercontinental title (Jericho) - Second tier title
US title (Juice Robinson) - Only about a year old but has been fairly strongly booked so far.
Never Openweight title (Goto?) - Lower tier title which I think anyone can challenge for.
Junior Heavyweight title (Hiromu) - Top title for the 'juniors'
Heavyweight Tag titles (Young Bucks)
Junior Heavyweight Tag titles (Desperado & Kanemaru)
6 Man Tag titles (Bucks & Marty Scurll)

For the G1 shows it's split between the A & B blocks, so every night you'll have a few tag matches between people in (for example) A Block, often teasing/setting up angles for matches on the next show. The you'll have some G1 singles matches from the other block, and vice versa the next night. The tags aren't essential viewing but they do contain some story bits and can still be really good (there's a LIJ match early in the G1 which was fantastic).

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'm watching the tags.

Quite liked Sho & Ishii/Yano & Yoh as well as ZSJ & Michinoku/Ibushi & Takahasi so far.

The Amazon fire app doesn't remember your progress though which is annoying as fuck.

[Queenslander]

Never Openweight title is the Strong Style title for the most part.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Elgin/Evil :drool:

[Queenslander]

Naito v Ibushi was a bit bloody mental.

[Shindig]

So does Kane get a retirement match now he's Mayor of Knox County?

[Ian]

The WOS directing during matches might actually be worse than WWE, which is some going.

[Disco]

Them calling it Sports Entertainment got on my nerves

[Ian]

I missed that or it'd have annoyed me too. They have allowed words like "fans" though I think.

I just watched the "Walk With Elias" show and liked it a lot.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The 'documentary' thing?

The advert for it made it look more like a mockumentary.

[Ian]

Yes that's what it is.

I mean if you don't like what Elias does on Raw you're not going to like this either.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I think he's great tbh.

[Ian]

He's not good enough in the ring to go all the way but he's good fun and should be a staple of whatever you'd pass for the WWE mid/upper-midcard these days for a good while.

That doesn't really exist, you're either a world champion / Roman Reigns or you're not but you get what I mean.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched last week's NXT and they have a solution for Roman.

Call up Ciampa and get him in a feud with THE ULTIMATE VINCE'S BOY BABYFACE, no one is drawing as much heat as Ciampa is doing so on NXT.

Edit: Also getting some G1 day two tag matches. The Suzuki/Makabe stuff bits in there was fucking brilliant (there was one elbow that Suzuki hit that sounded completely legit too, I can't wait to watch their singles match) but why does he hate the English commentators? Or is it just one of them? Suzuki booting the railings in front of their desk at the end of the match was quality, he's fucking mental.

[Queenslander]

He is a massive heel in Japan. Suzuki is known to give stiff shots to the young boys as well.

Suzuki Gun only returned from Noah at the start of last year due to being banished for being too violent in kayfabe.

Check out the first show after last years Wrestle Kingdom to see their return and Suzuki's attack on Okada.

[Ian]

Just watched last week's NXT and they have a solution for Roman.

Call up Ciampa and get him in a feud with THE ULTIMATE VINCE'S BOY BABYFACE, no one is drawing as much heat as Ciampa is doing so on NXT.

Yeah because he's booked properly and his "only" being 6ft isn't a reason to bury him on NXT. On the main roster he'd be losing to Jinder within the month and unforgiveably reunited with Gargano within two .


Suzuki is known to give stiff shots to the young boys as well.

Sounds a wrong'un.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah because he's booked properly and his "only" being 6ft isn't a reason to bury him on NXT. On the main roster he'd be losing to Jinder within the month and unforgiveably reunited with Gargano within two .



Sounds a wrong'un.
Well yes but don't bring logic into trying to make Roman 'clearly a natural heel' Reigns the top baby-face.

[wullie]

Ciampa's first feud would 100% be against whoever currently has the gimmick of 'he just loves to have fun, Corey'

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They'd call up the Loser House Party.

[Disco]

Battle Grandpa is the wrongest of wrong 'uns, the commentators regularly 'run away' during his entrance and Rocky Romero is nominally a member of Chaos so he might have been going after him. He makes a point of booting a Young Boy every time he comes to the ring so he's fairly even handed with his fuckery.

[Shindig]

Book Roman as a Boring James Milner type and get some hype from vignettes. "I'm not a good guy, I'm not a bad guy. I'm just a guy."

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

ZSJ/Ibushi :drool:

Omega/Naito wasn't too shabby either.

Edit: On the other hand, I just finished RAW and the only good thing was the Paul Heyman interview.

[Disco]

There we go, Kirby / Hendry already the best thing they've done on this new WOS.

[Queenslander]

Omega v Ibushi is easily my match of the tournment. Dragon driver... :|

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Listening to old episodes of MLW podcast….during episode 49, former WWE Writer Court Bauer tells a story about Randy Orton showing his dick to new writers, touching it, and asking them to shake his hand.

Court Bauer on Randy Orton: “For every new writer that would show up, he come in the room put his hand down his pants, pull out his dick, touch himself, then say “I’m Randy Orton, shake my hand…oh you dont want to shake my hand? You’re big leaguing me? That’s fucked up man. Should I tell Vince and Steph you wont shake Randy Ortons hand?”

The writers would all start sweating and backing up into the corner, the guys dick is still hanging out, and he would be there cutting a promo on a guy with his dick hanging out for like five minutes. Court goes on to say Orton was very intense so you could never tell if he was fucking with you or he was really hot.

Court says he was lucky…Randy did it to him on the 1st day he was with the company at tv and just as he was about to pull his dick out, Stephanie walked in, and that shit went right back in his pants. Court describes it as a teacher entering the classroom.

When asked if he would have shaken his hand, Court says “I dont know. I’m a bit of a germaphobe.” Court says this was something Orton did during his [Court’s] entire time at the WWE, and he is surprised Orton didnt get hit with sexual harassment.

Sounds like something he'd do.

[Gray Fox]

He hears voices in his head.

[Trancemeister]

Jim The Anvil Neidhart has died.

[SvN]

https://i.imgur.com/JfExTwA.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Ronda's best friend is going to be devastated.

[wullie]

Ah shit, Hart Foundation vs Demolition was the match that got me hooked, I loved Anvil.

[Shindig]

Jim never looked in shape ever, did he?

[Waffdon]

Ambrose looks fucking huge. He has the perfect look of a heel but that is only happening if he turns on Rollins and fuck having them two feud again.

[SvN]

His hairline is so uneven, he needs to shave it closer.

[Waffdon]

He needs to do a Snitsky and shave it all off.

[Browning]

All 3 members of the shield need to banned from being on screen together for at least 3 years. It’s all they ever do.

[Ian]

One more Shield match then it's time for Owens / Zayn again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It was touching to see Ronda say such kind words for her best friend in the whole world.

[Pleb]

Just seen the SummerSlam card.

Woof.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

7 hours apparently...

[wullie]

Saw the Ambrose segment. He's thankfully seen sense with his hair but someone should really have a word with Ziggler now

[Lewis]

He looks like a little Rick Steiner.

[Ian]

A good old fashioned whodunnit in NXT. I hope it was Rikishi.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I really don't like the changes they made to Killian Dain's wardrobe since moving from NXT.

Apparently it was his decision but his gear in NXT was perfect for him:

https://i.redd.it/wgunnjf39ag11.png

Clearly don't like his body fat and hair the bastards.

[Ian]

You've see Sanity on the main roster and Dain's attire is your biggest gripe? Really?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They seem to use all NXT guys in the same shitty way right now so there's no point to single out an individual/group for being badly used.

It's going to suck when they (apparently) call up Aleister Black after SummerSlam.

[Ian]

Agreed. Almas is an odd one just now, with a weird mix of booking him relatively strongly but keeping him on the pre-shows.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

AOP being in a feud with Titus Worldwide where every match is a squash is strange.

[wullie]

That tag title match was fantastic, although having War Machine then sneak up on the bad guys who just won a match fairly is a bit too close to main roster face logic.

[Disco]

A good old fashioned whodunnit in NXT. I hope it was Rikishi.

I think he might the only wrestler who wasn't implicated, the entire fucking roster was wandering about the car park (in their ring gear no less).

[Disco]

He looks like a little Rick Steiner.

I hope you mean dog-pauldron era Steiner.

[Shindig]

I think he might the only wrestler who wasn't implicated, the entire fucking roster was wandering about the car park (in their ring gear no less).

They should've went with Blackman. I'd have loved to see that push.

[SvN]

I was adamant it was Billy Gunn at the time.

[Lewis]

I hope you mean dog-pauldron era Steiner.

I didn't think he had eras. Didn't he just get fatter and shitter but stay looking roughly the same?

[Disco]

Well he started dressing like this.

https://i.imgur.com/tGbXnJl.png

[Lewis]

That picture could have been taken at any point during my life.

[SvN]

All ready for Summerslam. First time watching in a few months, hope it's not too shit.

[Pleb]

Was it shit?

[Browning]

Half the matches went too long and the other half were squashes. Really poorly put together show even if there was some decent action.

I was enjoying the booking of Lesnar/Reigns until they ruined it all with the shitty finish.

[Ian]

I thought it was a largely decent show. The squashes did nobody anybody favours but at least Bork doesn't have the belt. Was surprised at the crowd reaction to that, actually.

[phonics]

The Kevin Owens match was genuinely weird.

I went to bed after AJ v Samoa Joe. Either Joe's athleticism is fucking crazy Or everyone else is just slow. The speed/power of his kicks are insane. That one hitting AJ off the top rope was better than most footballers.

That match and the idea of how it ended works but the actual moves that were done sucked. A spear into a wall and 3-4 chair shots? The man tried to split your family apart and you give him what Mankind would refer to as a casual dark match.

[Ian]

There was so much build-up to Owens getting the briefcase that for there to not even be an attempt at shenanigans was nonsense.

[phonics]

There was so much build-up to Owens getting the briefcase that for there to not even be an attempt at shenanigans was nonsense.

My problem was that he didn't beat him up enough. From the video they played before I guess the thing is he's been beaten a lot in the last few weeks but if a couple of running shoulder barges and a slam outside the ring is enough to pin him it doesn't make sense. My only guess is that the slam on the ramp genuinely fucked up his back so they cut it short?

That was my problem with the show I watched, I understand that it's just what modern wrestling is but seth rollins doing a reverse superplex off the top rope into a spinning superplex gets a 2.5 count these days, every pin where someone hasn't been actually murdered via a 9mm seems pathetic.

There's no bar for what is a beating anymore.

edit: Found it.

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/seth-rollins-inverted-superplex-combo.gif

2.5.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watching NXT Takeover now and my word the Ricochet/Adam Cole match :drool: Some absolutely brilliant spots in that match, same with every match thus far as per usual.

Oh and lol at Velveteen's tights:

http://www.bodyslam.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Velveteen-Dream_call-me-up-vince.jpg

Edit: And I'm done, absolutely great Event as always with NXT. 'Worst' match was probably Dream against EC3 but that was still better than most on the main event PPVs.

[Browning]

That's the problem with the supposed 5 star formula these days. It's just big move, 2 count, big move, 2 count, big move, 2 count until someone doesn't kick out. It's fucking boring. I blame the Cena/Owens series of matches getting jacked off too so much, but it probably started before that. It's the only way WWE seems to be able to make a match seem better than any other these days though. Those big moves are going to get bigger and bigger.... just to make the latest spot fest feel better than the one before. But of course when the guy who has a clothesline or similar shit move for a finisher hits that, they'll stay down.

[Browning]

All 3 members of the shield need to banned from being on screen together for at least 3 years. It’s all they ever do.

For fuck sake.

[wullie]

I wonder if they're just carrying on with the original plan of Ambrose turning on Rollins even though they confirmed that was going to happen in a book they released.

Summerslam was ok but all of the Braun Strowman stuff was weird. If you have the rule that a champion can lose something even with a countout or DQ you don't just have them win a clean squash, and then when Brock throws his briefcase onto the stage that's the last you ever see of the MONSTER.

[Ian]

It's all a bit video games where the one that's designated as the finisher is magically more powerful.

The tease of the Musclebuster was fucking weird too. It's barely or never been on WWE TV so why they expected the crowd to get pumped I don't know.

Just finished a typically weak Raw in about an hour and a quarter. I know they love to string out a cash in but the way they're handling Boatman on both shows here has been weird.

Still at least we got promos from Stephanie AND HHH.

[wullie]

Excited to see Undertaker vs HHH for the Last Time Ever only six years after their End Of An Era match. Admittedly it's better than Cena and Rock's Once In A Lifetime match happening the next year.

[Browning]

The thing I loved about the End of an Era match was that their era was the attitude era and the very next match on the card featured sexual chocolate. Now he’s gone I guess they need to end it again.

[Disco]

Fucking hell they aren't wheeling him out again are they? Do any of his joints bend or has he gone full Khali?

[SvN]

He's looking a lot better since he had his hip replacement, but he's obviously not the wrestler he was a decade ago. I still mark out like a fanboy when he's around, though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Running through SummerSlam (surprisingly decent thus far but still far from good, best since they went back to dual brand) and I'm surprised they brought the Demon King back. Cool to see him but for a squash against Jeremy Corbin? Pretty damn pointless.

[Ian]

The Demon King is such a lol concept. Grrrr I'm so pumped up I'm going to sit in make up for ages and have cartoons drawn on me.

I wouldn't be averse to it if it was some sort of tribal warpaint idea.

I quite liked Summerslam on the whole but at least they balanced things out by Raw and Smackdown being pretty meh.

[Shindig]

Yeah, you can't flip between the two. It's hardly Mick Foley stripping off to reveal he's Cactus Jack.

[Gray Fox]

Has Demon Balor ever lost?

[Browning]

From memory he's only had 2 matches on the main roster, and one of those was against some hairy woman.

Edit- Supposedly that was cancelled and he faced Styles. Damn.... no wonder I had no memory of the match of the century.

[Ian]

He beat Rollins and then won on Sunday and the Demon Pumpking never got to face "Sister Abigail".

[Queenslander]

http://i65.tinypic.com/2j32l1t.jpg


:drool:

[Ian]

Who is that?

[Disco]

Kenny Omega vs The Boogeyman

[Queenslander]

Who is that?

Pentagon Jr. Lucha Libre style wrestler from Mexco.

Wrestles PWG and Impact in America.

[Ian]

Oh yeah, I've seen him in PWG.

My work chum has told me I should watch a Lucha Underground match of him vs. three women because we were talking about Io Sharai and she's in it.

[Queenslander]

Shit Ill have to check it out.

[Queenslander]

http://i67.tinypic.com/na0li.jpg

Okada's new gimmick should make this match fun.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

AOP vs Titus Worldslide is the feud that will not end it seems. 95% of AOP's main show matches have been squashes against the slidey one and Titus is going to be 60 still engaging them.

[Queenslander]

Don Callis is such a beast I cant wait for 'Impact is Jericho'.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

'Wale' on 205 was so fucking shit.

Although I did like the other commentators introducing him as a BIG WWE FAN then began to introduce the first ever Cruiserweight Champion for Wale to respond 'And who is that?'

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It would be nice if the Corbin/Balor 'rivalry' would just fuck right off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Women's Evolution coming to a screeching halt next week with the Bellas back in action next week then.

[Queenslander]

All In is being replayed on NJPW which is pretty bloody big.

[wullie]

This week's Smackdown is show of the year. Proof:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dlucw4nU0AAneN9.jpg

[Disco]

They've spelt Booookaaaaahhhh completly wrong.

[Ian]

It would be nice if the Corbin/Balor 'rivalry' would just fuck right off.

He also seems to be feuding Lashley. No idea where Jezza being both power mad and out of his depth leads as a story though. WWE probably don't either to be fair.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

WWE don't know what to do with pretty much everyone bar 'ROMAN MUST BE THE TOP DAWG ULTIMATE FACE'.

[wullie]

I find it weird that like with Kane they have him wrestle in his corporate gear rather than just have a change of clothes with him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Americans need visual clues like that to remind themselves, they're not the smartest.

[Disco]

All In is being replayed on NJPW which is pretty bloody big.

I wonder if it's just a live feed or if the VOD will be available.

[Queenslander]

I wonder if it's just a live feed or if the VOD will be available.

It wont be live as ROH and FITE have the rights. Will you be watching it?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lolled at Jeff Hardy saying that Orton made him believe he could fly.

That's the drugs mate.

[Browning]

Wasn’t Jeff flying long before Orton was a thing?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah but not through a tab...

[Ian]

WWE don't know what to do with pretty much everyone bar 'ROMAN MUST BE THE TOP DAWG ULTIMATE FACE'.

Turning Boatman heel because he's facing Reigns the latest in a long line of lulzy decisions.

[wullie]

If somehow it can lead to a load of those Shield vs Wyatt six man matches but with Brawn instead of Rowan I'm All In©

[Ian]

So what manner of terrible thing is Jeff Hardy going to do to himself in / off / through the cell? I've seen a few things of him saying that he is kinda desperate to do one before he retires / leaves WWE.

Just a Swanton off the cell through a table full of beanbags?

[Baz]

Man’s gon die. :drool:

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If he does a swanton off the cell he'd probably finally finish off his back.

[Shindig]

He's ... already jumped off the Titantron.

[Mike]

You lot watching All In? I think it’s this weekend? I assume just online for streaming?

[Ian]

I don't care enough to pay £30.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I wasn't planning on doing so but I've just spotted that Steven 'Green Arrow' Amell is in a match and Billy Gunn is in the Rumble.

[Queenslander]

You lot watching All In? I think it’s this weekend? I assume just online for streaming?

Im just catching the replay on NJPW.

[Mike]

Decided I’m going goung to ‘get it’ in the morning

[Browning]

I wasn't planning on doing so but I've just spotted that Steven 'Green Arrow' Amell is in a match and Billy Gunn is in the Rumble.

Best thing to ever happen in wrestling if he comes out to 'Ass Man'.

Complete waste of time if he doesn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Best thing to ever happen in wrestling if he comes out to 'Ass Man'.

Complete waste of time if he doesn't.

Always one of my favourite themes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

So, Cena has been HYPING a new '6th move of DOOM' for his return and here it is:

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Meant as a joke but fuck me, having to actually be pinned after that is disgraceful.

[Queenslander]

By all reports All In is living up to the hype.

[Queenslander]

Bought the stream and yep All In is amazing.

Excalibur is on commentary.

[Queenslander]

Okada with a huuuuuge pop.

[Mike]

Woke up early to download it, so early that it’s not up yet :D

[Baz]

Woke up early to download it, so early that it’s not up yet :D
All.In.2018.PPV.1080p.WEB.h264-HEEL

[Ian]

Yeah All In reviews all seem very positive. Which isn't surprisiing equally because of the talent on the card and because the internet would have me believe you simply don't get bad non-WWE/TNA shows any more.


So, Cena has been HYPING a new '6th move of DOOM' for his return and here it is:

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Meant as a joke but fuck me, having to actually be pinned after that is disgraceful.

The state of that.

[Queenslander]

Yeah All In reviews all seem very positive. Which isn't surprisiing equally because of the talent on the card and because the internet would have me believe you simply don't get bad non-WWE/TNA shows any more.





The state of that.

Impacts last PPV was quality.

[Ian]

To be fair the stuff I see is cautiously positive at the moment.

[Queenslander]

To be fair the stuff I see is cautiously positive at the moment.

From my understanding it is all down to Don Callis.

[Shindig]

The only thing I don't like about TNA at the moment is Joe Hendry singing every week.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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The 'Rana about 12 seconds in :drool: