The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Ian]

Bullshit, it was a fucking cesspit of bullshit.

This run to the MITB has been woeful.

If there had only been two episodes of Raw this year Raw 25 would still be about sixth-best.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking hell, I'm seething that I missed that.

Edit: Out the way you stiff wristed cunt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd love it if Big Cass would fuck off.

I'm big, like really big. Look I'm 7 feet tall and Daniel Bryan is tiny.

SCINTILLATING STUFF.

[Ian]

It was a crap heel gimmick that nobody liked three years ago when Sheamus did it and I don't imagine it was better when people inevitably did it before him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yet they keep dipping into that dry as fuck well hoping they finally bring up some water.

[Disco]

Also, in proper WWE style, he said Daniel Bryan had never faced anyone like him. That's Daniel Bryan who won his title from Big Show.

Well done Colin.

[Ian]

Tonga Jeff smashed it again though, and that's what matters. I'm torn between wanting him to win it and not wanting him to because I'd rather he just batters his way to the title.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I can't believe that I disliked him based on his physique and scowl.

He's fucking brilliant and I was so wrong about him.

[Ian]

is he the best promo in WWE right now? Him or Miz I guess.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I'd say the Miz just edges him but he's not far off.

He's got a fucking boss theme song too.

[wullie]

Also, in proper WWE style, he said Daniel Bryan had never faced anyone like him. That's Daniel Bryan who won his title from Big Show.

Well done Colin.

He beat Big Cass comfortably at whatever the last PPV was too. Some of the stuff they're doing at the moment is so fucking stupid.

[Ian]

Even by their own standards the inconsistency is ludicrous.

Nia has gone from being an anti-bullying champion to bullying a jobber to arguing over who's best friends with 'Natty' in the space of, what, a month?

[Pleb]

Rumors suggests Lesnar is dropping the title at SummerSlam. I reckon it's Boo Reigns again :baz:

Also Taker has a house match at MSG in August so there's that.

[Browning]

Lesnar is always losing the title and fucking off. Except when he isn't.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He will this time.

Boatman to win MITB and smash Bork's face in.

The shift has started as they realise Reigns is pony.

[Queenslander]

Impact has joined ROH in partnership with the Cruise of Jericho.

Jericho is now likely to appear on Impact TV sometime this year.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

The ending of NXT this week :drool:

They've absolutely nailed the Ciampa/Gargano feud.

Ricochet/Velveteen should be a cracker at TakeOver too.

[Disco]

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‘Ospreay isn’t one person. He’s a cat, and cats aren’t single entities. You see I spelled Ospreay out in katakana in the picture. In the middle, I’m eating the ‘ay’, and if I want to do that I have to understand his four other personalities.’

[Lewis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9mmmROgOXo

I am just going to leave this here....And yes there are more with Ric Flair,Macho Man,SCSA and others....

I can't stop watching this.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It actually makes Sid more watchable.

[Queenslander]

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‘Ospreay isn’t one person. He’s a cat, and cats aren’t single entities. You see I spelled Ospreay out in katakana in the picture. In the middle, I’m eating the ‘ay’, and if I want to do that I have to understand his four other personalities.’

Do you remember Ospraeys brief cat gimmick?

[Disco]

Of course, at the height of Daryl-mania.

[Queenslander]

Oh yeah. :doh:

[Disco]

If Barry Windham played The Joker

https://i.imgur.com/a2SK6P1.png

[Queenslander]

What a fucking show.

[Disco]

Ridiculous.

Okada / Omega delivered on the hype, Meltzer may have actually exploded.

[Baz]

Downloading now. :sst:

[Queenslander]

Massive British graps boner.

http://i63.tinypic.com/2wqhmdk.jpg

[Baz]

The first (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6d0dyx) Okada-Omega match is still the GOAT.

[Ian]

Ospreay vs Bate should be great. Assassins' Creed quote on the poster is a bit random.

[Queenslander]

Fark me I recommend the latest Being THE ELITE.

[Queenslander]

It feels very strange to read about Omega and the Bucks fued with the New Day on their website.

https://www.wwe.com/amp/article/new-day-kenny-omega-young-bucks-e3-2018?sf191471664=1&__twitter_impression=true

[Disco]

The first (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6d0dyx) Okada-Omega match is still the GOAT.

I can't decide if the first or last one is the best, I think the latest one edges it just because the stipulations made it that much more epic.

[Queenslander]

http://i65.tinypic.com/j6sndv.jpg

[Ian]

I've only watched about ten minutes of Raw but they've only gone and recreated that people-on-ladders bit Browning mentioned. :D

[Disco]

I hold out hope that one day the big chair makes a return as well.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've only watched about ten minutes of Raw but they've only gone and recreated that people-on-ladders bit Browning mentioned. :D
I'm so gutted that I probably won't be able to watch that.

[Ian]

I'm so gutted that I probably won't be able to watch that.


https://youtu.be/pV0J9ez92Ak

Also starring Jezza's new haircut.

[Browning]

Fucking hell that was abysmal.

[SvN]

I had to turn it off. I've only watched The Greatest Rumble and Backlash since Wrestlemania. I might watch Money in the Bank, but I'm on a stag do this weekend so I'll probably be too fucked to bother.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

If Jezza's new haircut isn't just everything shaved then he's a nonce.

[Ian]

Also WWE said that Brock had beaten Punk's record (without mentioning Punk, of course) so even if Reigns not taking the belt was one of Vince's whims they're definitely happen to pretend it's a record (a 'modern era' one.)

[Lewis]

That Andre the Giant documentary is good, although I'm surprised Vince McMahon never had the film destroyed when you see him getting emotional about it.

[Ian]

Yeah I mentioned in the TV thread my only gripe was the 10 minutes or so that were less about Andre and more about what a handsome genius Vince is.

Didn't know all that about Tim White either.

[John]

Punk got his chin punched off by a similar no hoper at the weekend, so if the WWE is ignoring his existence too then he probably needs to just pop off somewhere to die of an overdose or however it is wrestlers usually go.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

He can't.

He's STRAIGHT EDGED.

[Browning]

The other bloke was fired within hours for not putting him out if his misery too which is amazing.

[Disco]

He could name his price in the indies or Japan and no amount of mma losses will change that.

[bruhnaldo]

He should go to NJPW and do what Jericho is doing.

[Lewis]

Punk got his chin punched off by a similar no hoper at the weekend, so if the WWE is ignoring his existence too then he probably needs to just pop off somewhere to die of an overdose or however it is wrestlers usually go.

How is he still that shit after years of full-time training? Is he simply the worst athlete in the sport?

[Baz]

The other bloke was fired within hours for not putting him out if his misery too which is amazing.Why?

Why didn't he finish him off?
And why's he been fired for not doing?

[John]

How is he still that shit after years of full-time training? Is he simply the worst athlete in the sport?

The guy he fought on Saturday is well into his thirties and had lost his only previous professional fight. He was showboating like a prime Ali and Punk still couldn't get near him.

He came to it late and clearly just has no natural aptitude. He doesn't look like a great athlete either, but being a great athlete isn't really necessary until you get to the real upper echelons. He's had at least four years of proper training and on Saturday he was still doing things on the ground that made no sense and would be actively discouraged by a competent coach. That's a mental thing, so he just isn't cut out for it in any way.

[Shindig]

I wonder what breaks first? His resolve or his ability to draw a booking?

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well he's been cut by the UFC.

His options are a lesser MMA show (Bellator won't want him), NJPW or Indies in wrestling.

[Gray Fox]

He came at it at 37, with no previous training. He's lucky they didn't give him anyone seriously good or he'd be hurt bad.

Respect to him for not throwing in the towel and also giving it a go at getting better. He's just not cut for it. There's no point in taking up serious MMA training now he's 39. He'd get easily 5-10 years more from a wrestling promotion, he still has a pretty big reputation and would draw well. Even though those things have taken a dent with the UFC fights.

He said before the fight he was 100% done with wrestling. So maybe he just rides off into the sunset with AJ Lee and his pile of money.

[Shindig]

Retirement match at Wrestlemania 42 it is.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Retirement match at Wrestlemania 42 it is.
Imagine how shit The Undertaker would look in that match though.

[Shindig]

At that point, CG will be good enough we won't notice.

[Queenslander]

I can see Punk making appearances at All In and on the Cruise of Jericho.

[Browning]

Not sure why people seem to think Punk needs to do something wrestling related, given how it's treated him. He's no doubt a multi millionaire already, he has no reason to piss about in Japan or fighting Will Ospreay at Student Unions.

[Queenslander]

He has already signed on for Starrcast which is the meet and greet before All In.

[John]

He came at it at 37, with no previous training. He's lucky they didn't give him anyone seriously good or he'd be hurt bad.

Respect to him for not throwing in the towel and also giving it a go at getting better. He's just not cut for it. There's no point in taking up serious MMA training now he's 39. He'd get easily 5-10 years more from a wrestling promotion, he still has a pretty big reputation and would draw well. Even though those things have taken a dent with the UFC fights.

He said before the fight he was 100% done with wrestling. So maybe he just rides off into the sunset with AJ Lee and his pile of money.

He had his first fight at 37, but he'd signed the contract two years previously and trained full time for those two years, as well as claiming to have been training on and off as his schedule would allow for at least a decade before that. He shouldn't have been as bad as he was.

[wullie]

He'll probably just do comic and TV stuff before appearing mysteriously in the crowd at NXT Takeover 38.

[Gray Fox]

He had his first fight at 37, but he'd signed the contract two years previously and trained full time for those two years, as well as claiming to have been training on and off as his schedule would allow for at least a decade before that. He shouldn't have been as bad as he was.

I didn't realise he's had 4 years of training. What the hells he been doing? Round 1 of his second fight was okay, but it went way downhill after. He seemed to want to take it to the ground but had no actual idea what to do when it got there. After that it was wild swinging.

[wullie]

He's so far away from being a natural athlete and only got good at wrestling through sheer hard work and perseverence where others take to it quickly, but obviously those don't translate as well to something where people are legitimately out to smash your face in.

[Ian]

Yeah, he was a really good wrestler because he had the underrated trait that he "gets" it and the hard work you mention to use that. Brock gets it too, he just doesn't care.

[Ian]

https://www.wwe.com/shows/wwe-united-kingdom-championship-tournament/article/first-round-full-length-match-schedule?sf191770250=1

UK Championship tournament first round matches starting to get uploaded if anybody's interested.

Wasn't that lad "Tucker" a load of rubbish in the last one?

[Ian]

Nothing particularly exciting in the first round though I did like Gulak / Gallagher and wish it could have had five more minutes.

Takeover was good as per and all the matches, even the weaker ones, had really good endings I thought.

[Browning]

Before things get under way tonight (I won’t be watching it live anyway but I’ll watch it tomorrow before I cancel the network) I want to place on record that Charlotte should be winning it and cashing in during Carmella vs Asuka. It won’t happen and they will go with something boring like Nattie wins because her and Ronda are best mates... but yea, when Carmella wins clean (or via Ellsworth) it’ll sum up how badly booked things are right now.

Literally couldn’t give a toss about the men’s one. Miz would be nice I guess.

[Disco]

Keith Lee :cool:

A man of intelligence and power, he's going to be great.

[wullie]

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/talent_champion_xl/public/all/2018/06/20180616_NXT_UK_Tickets_2--375ff3c4d55e9da64c1f6ff133f20777.jpg

New brand and show, adding a womens and tag titles to the existing UK one

[Ian]

Has Alexa got pictures of Vince doing something unspeakable? Comes off lengthy but uninspiring title reign before winning MITB, immediately cashing in and getting the title back very shortly after. Yawn.

[Shindig]

Maybe they want Ronda in a feud with a better talker or a heel.

[Waffdon]

That was amazing from Ronda Rousey.

[Ian]

I've no objection to them moving Rousey onto a better feud (I thought she looked pretty decent against Nia given how green she is) but more Alexa?

[Browning]

Alexa deserves it. She's incredible.

That said Ronda is just on another level to anyone else. She's almost enough for me to keep the network, but not quite.

[Weaver]

Big Cass has been released, for some reason.

[wullie]

Good news, he's awful. Not sure I've seen a less threatening big man type.

[Browning]

Wasn't even wished well in his future endeavours. He must have done something.

[SvN]

Best news I've heard all week.

[wullie]

Early rumour is he really committed to his heel turn and was actually the one in that hotel room in Phoenix.

[Shindig]

Wasn't even wished well in his future endeavours. He must have done something.

Cena's still smashing Carmella.

[Disco]

I didn't hate significant portions of MITB. The women's ladder match was great, I have a lot of time for an instant cash in too (as long as you don't think too hard about the very recent booking of everyone involved). Rollings was great again. The last man standing match was pretty good for such an inherently shit stipulation, fair play to Nakamura for taking that Style Clash and letting AJ hoof him right in the plums.

[Browning]

I'm normally the first to praise the women these days (they've kept me somewhat interested when my interest in any male storyline has reached 0) but I thought the MITB match was average at best. No real drama, just plodding along until Becky/Bliss botched the ending.

Ronda Vs Nia and the cash in afterwards was good stuff though.

I did not watch Styles Vs Nakamura and despite the reviews, I won't. They've burnt me with 3 piss poor matches, so fuck them.

[Pleb]

Big Cass fucked up didn't he? If so then :D

[Ian]

I'm normally the first to praise the women these days (they've kept me somewhat interested when my interest in any male storyline has reached 0) but I thought the MITB match was average at best. No real drama, just plodding along until Becky/Bliss botched the ending.

Ronda Vs Nia and the cash in afterwards was good stuff though.

I did not watch Styles Vs Nakamura and despite the reviews, I won't. They've burnt me with 3 piss poor matches, so fuck them.

I thought the women's one started well with a few nifty sequences but as you say became a bit plodding and that sequence where there were loads of them on two ladders felt endless. I think it was better than last year's but still suffers for a lack of proper bumps.

I didn't like AJ/ Nakamura that much but then I don't really care for last man standing matches.

[wullie]

Asuka losing by spending a minute staring at James Ellsworth seemed a particular bad use of their distraction trope.

[SvN]

Yeah, that went on way too long and just made everyone involved look thick.

[Disco]

Him trying to wink was particularly special.

[wullie]

https://twitter.com/itsvadertime/status/1009447703418408960

Vader died Monday

[Disco]

Best big man ever? Struggling to think of any better.

[wullie]

Him, Bam Bam Bigelow and Big Show are the names that stand out for me, assuming the likes of Undertaker are a different category.

[Shindig]

Yokozuna.

[Disco]

Japan really does do everything better, look who's doing the music (?) for the G1.


Just some fucking wolves in tracksuits, that's who.

https://i.imgur.com/VRq4dzY.jpg

[Lewis]

I suppose Andre the Giant is the greatest big man in the sense that he changed (revolutionised?) the industry, but Big Show is the best actual rassler/performer ever over a certain size.

[Disco]

I'd separate giants from big men, people like Vader, Bigelow, Michael Elgin or Keith Lee these days. All big but far more mobile than Big Show or Andre (or Khali, lol).

[Browning]

He may well be the best big man if you don't count any of the other good ones.

[wullie]

In big man terms, let's never forget the Twin Towers, RIP 9/11 XXX

https://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_s/public/rd-talent/Stat/Akeem_stat.pnghttps://www.wwe.com/f/styles/gallery_img_s/public/rd-talent/Stat/Big_Boss_Man_stat.png

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just seen the news about Vader :(

What a man he was.

[Disco]

He may well be the best big man if you don't count any of the other good ones.

Who would have above him, out of interest.

[Browning]

I don't think I've seen a Vader match in my life to be fair, aside from Vader Vs Ospreay which was a complete farce (and soured me on him when I heard Ospreay's interview about it).

Oh and probably the various WWE returns, but only the much later ones (e.g. Vader Vs Slater).

Can't judge him at all really. But I can't imagine he came close to Taker.

[Queenslander]

There isnt much between Vader and Bam Bam imo.

[Ian]

I would say that Zayn being out injured for so long might not be a bad thing if I had any faith they'd give him some proper direction upon his return.

[Disco]

I don't think I've seen a Vader match in my life to be fair, aside from Vader Vs Ospreay which was a complete farce (and soured me on him when I heard Ospreay's interview about it).

Oh and probably the various WWE returns, but only the much later ones (e.g. Vader Vs Slater).

Can't judge him at all really. But I can't imagine he came close to Taker.

Fair enough, I didn't really consider Taker, he's kind of in a group all on his own. Vaders best stuff was in WCW, genuinely great monster heel stuff, the WWF runs in 98(?) were shite in comparison.


In other news: G1 brackets were out this week, most of Chaos seems to be in group A along with Tanahashi which means we get another match with him and Okada. B block highlight has to be Omega and Ibushi but ZSJ is in there too, for a minute I thought Suzuki would be in there but no luck there.

[Shindig]

Vader's WWE run was only really notable for Shaun Michaels being a massive twat and then Vince ruining him as a 'fat piece of shit'.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Catching up slowly on what I've missed and I just started on NXT Takeover.

The tag match to start it off was fucking brilliant and probably better than any match on a regular PPV this year.

Edit: Dream/Ricochet, my word. This is shaping up to be the best Takeover I've seen.

Ciampa/Gargano II :drool: That's an absolute classic. NXT keeps delivering.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

On to MITB now and I loved the women's match, I thought they did seriously well. Only main gripe I had was Becky Lynch looking like a fool again.

Ellsworth return had me lolling too (the fucking wink, christ) and the Aussie event sounds shit. Why are they rolling out Taker again?

[Browning]

To build his Summerslam match, of course.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Imagine how slow he's going to be by next years Wrestlemania.

[Browning]

I'm convinced at this point they will wheel him out at Mania until he actually physically can't move anymore and then have someone else take over the gimmick. It's like they think Wrestlemania would die without him.

[wullie]

He should have either never lost to Lesnar or never wrestled again after. What's the point in him now?

[Browning]

To bury John Cena so he can go off and get a reverse vasectomy for a reality show.

But yea, I’m a firm believer the streak had to end and Lesnar, at the time, was a good choice, but he should have stayed gone.

[Shindig]

I feel like the problem here is that Mark doesn't want to quit.

[Queenslander]

Needs the tap.

[Queenslander]

Im kinda pumped for Lashley v Roman. If they give Lashley the nod he could be huge!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've just spotted that Ziggler is the new IC champion? Ugh, ugh, ugh.

The only, hopefully, good thing to come from that is Rollins going after the Universal championship as he deserves it.

[Browning]

Rollins can't face Brock. How do you injure your knee off a German Suplex?

[Ian]

A flip-through reversal and then buckle on the landing, obvs. Doesn't matter anyway, not a chance Bork agrees to do the job for Rollins.

Rollins vs. Ziggler on Raw was ace.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I liked his title run so much though :(

Oh and still catching up on MITB, Alexa Bliss :drool:

That was glorious and done so well. You get Alexa back as champion, a quick cash in and Rousey is protected.

Bullies never win :drool:

[Browning]

I still maintain it would have been better to do it with Charlotte during Asuka Vs Carmella, but then they should never have booked Nia Vs Ronda in the first place (unless they wanted to put the title on Ronda early). Ronda was fucking amazing though.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, it would have worked better that way but I like Alexa more.

Anyway, this is fucking amazing:

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Easily dicks Backlash and it's better than last years MITB too.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and fucking lol at Big Cass.

Getting his best singles push and the moron fucks it up which is great.

Apparently it was an accumulation of shit (battering the midget, drinking too much, backstage altercations etc) so he's a colossal twat.

[Browning]

He really wasn't getting his best push though, he was being jobbed out to Bryan to build Bryan back up. Granted if he wasn't a cunt, maybe he would have got a win, but still would have lost the feud I imagine.

But yea, he's no loss. He was shit at everything except being big.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

singles.

[Browning]

I seem to recall he was actually getting pushed before he got injured. Since returning Bryan has just destroyed him.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well fuck you.

I only started watching it again in January.

[Disco]

He was pretty crap in that too, because he's a big pile of mouse faced average.

[wullie]

He always looked too terrified and uncomfortable to be a threat. Nia Jax is similar, she should be a monster but as soon as she talks it's all like, you know, whatever you guys, totally

[Shindig]

Like that time when she cried after growling a bit.

[Ian]

Bobby Lashley shouldn't ever be allowed to speak, on that front.

If ever a man needed managers to properly be a thing again.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

My problem with Rousey (other than her mic work but maybe the rivalry with Bliss will help that) is that her punches look shit. Hopefully it's just a case of being a bit green and with experience they'll get better.

[Disco]

He's another one (Lashley that is) who suffers from the utter tripe they write as promos.

Rousey is amazing for someone a few months into a wrestling career. A few rough edges but I think you have to expect that.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yeah, with experience it should get better.

She looked a lot better putting Bliss through a table than Triple H. Although the reduced weight would have helped.

I wasn't keen on them giving her a championship opportunity so early. However it works better with Bliss as she's probably the best female on a microphone so hopefully she can help pull Ronda.

[Ian]

He's another one (Lashley that is) who suffers from the utter tripe they write as promos.

He really is but his voice would still ruin any attempts at verbal badassery. He was fed a decent barb or two on Raw but that voice, man.

[Browning]

Alison Brie turning up on Smackdown is probably WWE's peak for this year.

[Ian]

Team Hell No reforming is not.

[Shindig]

What if I told you Kane was campaigning for Mayor of Hell?

[Pleb]

NXTUK Live Tour coming to Plymouth in October?

Tempted.

[Trancemeister]

20 years ago today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMp65SzyTU

[Ian]

The great overrated vs the probably some amount of underrated.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just started on the NXT UK tournament.

I could do with about an hour more of Coffey/Mastiff.

Fat lads going for it :drool:

[wullie]

I can't tell if Flash Morgan Webster is any good because I can't see past all the horrible mod stuff. He's a natural heel in my eyes.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I like him, he sells attacks really well. When he was on 205 Live he took a fucking pasting.

[John]

Just started on the NXT UK tournament.

I could do with about an hour more of Coffey/Mastiff.

Fat lads going for it :drool:

Is that Joe Coffey? I know him a little. Used to go to the same gym as him in Pollokshaws

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Is that Joe Coffey? I know him a little. Used to go to the same gym as him in Pollokshaws
It was. He was excellent in the tournament and should feature in the new NXT UK division.

[Disco]

He has a brother (Mark I think) who is also quite good.

[wullie]

I think Kyle O'Reilly might be my new favourite, along with Adam Cole he plays a dickhead so well. Roderick Strong seems less comfortable, like he's always looking around to them to see what mean thing he should do next.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I didn't 'get' O'Reilly for a while with his shit air guitar but he's actually great and it fits so well.

Adam Cole (baybay) has always been brilliant.

[igor_balis]

NJPW on Sunday, me and the LADS never bothered to do any prep work aside from watching the first half of Wrestlekingdom. Probably just going to go in blind, have lots of beer and try to enjoy the show without knowing dick about the people involved. Oh, and one of our posse has never been into wrestling, never even watched bits and pieces during the attitude era. He just about knows who Rock and Austin are, ish.

Anything I should DEFINITELY 100% watch tomorrow in preparation?? This is the card, according to my mate:

Dan Duggan vs. Mystery Opponent (the same TBD opponent from Umino’s match on Night 1)

Shota Umino vs. Yugi Nagata

El Phantasmo vs. Taiji Ishimori vs. David Star vs. Tiger Mask

Suzuki Gun (Takashi Iizuka, Yoshinobu Kanemaru, El Desperado) vs. CHAOS (Yoshi-Hashi, Toru Yano, Gedo)

Walter vs. Yujiro Takahashi

‘Switchblade’ Jay White vs. Chris Brookes

Taichi vs. Will Ospreay

Undisputed British Championship match: Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs. Minoru Suzuki

Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Kazuchika Okada

[phonics]

Isn't the thing with Japanese wrestling that it's not much about the storylines anyway?

[Disco]

It's presented more like an authentic contest so there aren't storylines like you see in WWE. They just have face and heel stables but which is which will be pretty obvious, most of that card looks like Suzuki Gun vs Chaos.

[Queenslander]

Undisputed British Championship match: Tomohiro Ishii (c) vs. Minoru Suzuki


Yourself and your mates must watch this match.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Bork is now not expected to be at Summerslam.

We're going to have our first case of no cash in as Bork is never going to turn up again.

[igor_balis]

Njpw was fuckin mega. Wore my wba shirt and bumped into DARREN FLETCHER in the crowd. Gave him a polite boing boing.

[phonics]

Njpw was fuckin mega. Wore my wba shirt and bumped into DARREN FLETCHER in the crowd. Gave him a polite boing boing.

Should've given him a stunner for abandoning you to join the orcs up the road.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Word is that Rey Mysterio has signed a 2 year deal to go back to WWE.

[Disco]

I've had a bit of a break from wrestling while the World Cup has been on but the G1 kicks off tomorrow with their US special. :drool:

[Ian]

Word is that Rey Mysterio has signed a 2 year deal to go back to WWE.

Can't wait for him to immediately become buried in the midcard, losing by roll-up to Mojo Rawley.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Can't wait for him to immediately become buried in the midcard, losing by roll-up to Mojo Rawley.

http://www.profightdb.com/winlossrecord/mojo-rawley-9113.html

Just look at that win-loss record and only one of those was due to the help of Rob Gronkowski.

[Baz]

Really enjoyed the Dawn Of Attitude thing on Sky Sports, except they kept cramming in promotion for Extreme Rules. It’s worth a watch though - HBK, Mick Foley, Ron Simmons, Godfather and Kane chatting about the dawn of the Attitude era.

[Queenslander]

Nation of Domition really should hold up better over the years.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lesnar going back to UFC for a fight.

Won't be able to fight until January at the earliest (has to serve the rest of his suspension) so I hope he is stripped/drops it before then.

[Shindig]

It should be against CM Punk and should be the most worked thing in existence.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

It's for the heavyweight title.

[Shindig]

Which Heavyweight Title? ;)

[Queenslander]

The Suzuki doco has english sub titles now. Fair to say Suzuki gun are big time faces in Britain.

[Ian]

Why is Jeff Hardy's Twist of Fate a weird Stunner these days?

And why is Ellsworth the focus of the womens division again?

[Browning]

I've stopped even reading the results lately. I think I'm out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Why is Jeff Hardy's Twist of Fate a weird Stunner these days?

And why is Ellsworth the focus of the womens division again?

Because Ellsworth (and THE WINK) are the real lynchpins of the WOMEN'S REVOLUTION.

Jeff Hardy's new gimmick where his adrenal gland has been woken or some shit can fuck off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Still playing catch up after my holiday.

The 6 man tag between Moustache Mountain & Ricochet vs Undisputed Era was fucking brilliant.

Ricochet is a walking highlight reel.

Edit: Went down a bit of a rabbit hole and found Ospreay/Ricochet on Dailymotion from a few years ago, pissing hell.

[Disco]

I've stopped even reading the results lately. I think I'm out.

I've gone almost full weeb now, with the exception of NXT, I don't think I'll even bother with the next ppv let alone slogging through Raw.

[Queenslander]

I've gone almost full weeb now, with the exception of NXT, I don't think I'll even bother with the next ppv let alone slogging through Raw.

Weeb is perfect!

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watching RAW last week and it's shaping up to be the worst ever.

Reigns has not one but TWO matches and now they're actually doing the whole counselling bullshit.

Fuck me, just give Triple H the keys to everything already.

[wullie]

Korporate Korbin singing a 'lullaby' about Finn Balor was the Vinciest segment I've seen in a long time.

[Mike]

And he didn’t even stay in time with the music!

[Disco]

ROH/NJPW have announced a Madison Square Garden show. Will that bethe first non-Vince wrestling event they've had?

[wullie]

Didn't they stop ROH from running a show there quite recently? It's odd considering they don't bother with the place themselves and go to Brooklyn now instead.

[Disco]

I'm sure they do house shows there, plus stuff like that Undertaker series a few years back.

[SvN]

They were there about a week ago.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Meltzer is reporting that Lesnar will have a match at Summerslam with at least one RAW show in the build up.

I hope they finally make him drop the title and he fucks off for good.

[wullie]

I mean TV and PPV, it was the spiritual home of Wrestlemania at one point. If they're not keeping it as an on-screen presence it's weird that they'd try to squeeze others out.

[SvN]

They want to maintain their untouchable status at the top.

[Disco]

They were there about a week ago.

I meant the ones they did as a build to WM one year, possibly when he fought Lesnar.

[Queenslander]

ROH/NJPW have announced a Madison Square Garden show. Will that bethe first non-Vince wrestling event they've had?

First since the 1920's.

[Queenslander]

ZSJ now uses the Michinoku driver. :drool:

[Ian]

I was pleased when whoever it was used it in WWE and it felt like the first time I'd seen it in yonks, now it's been a semi-regular match-filler move. :(

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I sort of liked what they were doing with Carmella until MITB. Getting the no chinned freak back was so fucking stupid.

Also, I'm surprisingly optimistic about Extreme Rules. On paper it's one of the better PPVs they've put together although I'm sure it will still be shit.

[Ian]

Bear in mind that given the size of the card there are going to be at least one promising match which will get half the time it deserves. My money is on AJ and Rusev as they get unforgiveably put in the midcard.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Well ROMAN has to headline ofc.

I think the Sanity/New Day Table match could be quality and they could give it time as it's on the pre-show. They wont ofc because they'd rather give more time to Renee Young, Booker T and whoever joins them to hype THE BIG DOG.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I also read today that (apparently) the plan is for Bork to angle that he's taking the title to UFC (lol) and have Roman SAVE US to try and finally get the fans on his side.

I really hope that's not true and Vince just fucks off.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Oh and there will be at least (possible overtime ofc) 30 minutes of Rollins so we'll have something watchable.

[Disco]

Vince fucking off?

He's going nowhere unless it's in a suspiciously muscly coffin

[Browning]

As someone who has watched zero of the build up but will probably watch tomorrow on the basis my network hasn't cancelled yet, I don't share the optimism for this card. It looks pretty shit, but I hope I'm wrong. Styles Vs Rusev could be great though, especially if they let Rusev win.

[Disco]

The reason I almost certainly won't be watching is that there are always matches that 'could/should be good' but very rarely are.

[Lewis]

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:lol:

[John]

Apparently that's Gangrel.

[Trancemeister]

Hulk Hogan is back in the hall of fame.

[Disco]

I was going to say, that looks a lot like Gangrel.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I was wondering that when watching it.

I fucking loved Gangrel, what a don.

[Weaver]

Love when wrestling brings in total outside sources for wrestling related stuff :D

Did anyone see the video of the Japanese promotion who used VAR the other week?

[Browning]

Did no one pick up on the commentator actually saying Gangrel in the video?

[Ian]

Yeah that was fairly clear.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

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Fucking better be bullshit.

[Browning]

Rollins Vs Ziggler would be a joke of a main event. One because it's for the fucking IC title, and two because they've literally given it away for free multiple times.

Styles Vs Rusev should be the main event, but I'm not shocked whatsoever that the clash of the big sweaty men gets the nod.

[Gray Fox]

I have the feeling that Rusev is getting this one and only title match to shut the fans up. English or Lana will cost him it somehow and then he comes crashing back into the midcard where Vince likes him.

[Ian]

I haven't seen the show yet but the only thing that should be ahead of a World title match on any card is the end of a major storyline.

[Browning]

Anyone who counts down from 10 and does the stupid buzzer sound in any match that's not the rumble should be banned from ever attending again. Fuck off.

[wullie]

The last NXT episode had a great tag main event but the dueling chants went on for over 10 minutes and almost ruined it. That and the superfans with their gimmicks all trying to be part of the show too much.

[Gray Fox]

Anyone who counts down from 10 and does the stupid buzzer sound in any match that's not the rumble should be banned from ever attending again. Fuck off.

They took away the in-arena clock because of this. I've no idea why we have fans paying to see the guys in the ring, only to try and get themselves over.

[Browning]

They did? It didn't fucking work if they did.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Watching now.

Both pre-show matches were good like I hoped but far too short (fuck the panel).

Stunned that they've given The fucking B Team the titles but I'm hoping that's because they're gearing up to the AOP (the only decent actual tag team on the show) to take them soon. Balor/Corbin was meh like it was always going to be because fuck Corbin.

Asuka/Carmella continues to make Asuka (what a fall since Wrestlemania) look like an absolute mong. Although I guess trying to batter Ellsworth is better than being transfixed by him in your costume.

Edit: US title match was pointless but Nakamura was guaranteed to win as Jeff is apparently absolutely fucked with injuries.

[Disco]

The last NXT episode had a great tag main event but the dueling chants went on for over 10 minutes and almost ruined it. That and the superfans with their gimmicks all trying to be part of the show too much.

Oh god that was so distracting I almost had to mute it. Great match though, as was the one at the UK show.

[Browning]

I skimmed through the show:

Pre-Show- didn't watch it
B Team Vs Deleters- So bland and boring, didn't care either way. Bray Wyatt still absolutely sucks.
Balor Vs Cuntstable Boring- Skipped it.
Asuka Vs Carmella- Fucking awful, with another stupid ending.
Nakamura Vs Jeff- Pointless, but I'm guessing Jeff wasn't capable of more.
Strowman Vs Owens- Both of them look like complete morons. At least Owens won so Shania has to live up to the deal.
SD Tag Titles- Crap match with nothing to redeem it. The Wacky Races team are boring as fuck now.
Reigns Vs Lashley- Skipped it
Nia Vs Alexa- Crap. No idea why Nattie was out there (yea she's Ronda's mate, but Ronda wasn't in the match). Really, really poor weapon spots. Glad Alexa won, but her worst match in ages.
Rusev Vs Styles- Boring. Predictable. Nothing to see here.
Ziggler Vs Rollins- Didn't like it at all. Both are obviously talented, but the booking was shitty. Rollins completed mugged Ziggler off beating him twice inside 10 minutes (was it 5 even?) and then the actual finish was shite too. It's not a new match Corey. They better not use that to ignore Drew showing up again because it's completely not true. Needed a better ending to close the show.

Overall, just as bad as I expected, and nothing to convince me to change my mind on the cancellation. If we get Alexa Vs Ronda at Summerslam, I may watch that, but that will be about all I care about.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Owens/Boatman :drool:

Smartly worked and a good way to get Owens the win with a nice nod to Foley too.

[Browning]

There was nothing smart about that. Both of them looked like twats. Owens should have just escaped immediately after the handcuff, and Strowman should have slammed him into the ring, not out of it. You can claim he didn't care about the win, but that's stupid.

[wullie]

Have they given up completely on determining Natalya as a face or heel considering she can't really do either? Wise if so.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Reigns losing :drool:

Hopefully that ends the possible Lesnar match at Summerslam.

Edit: lol at that first barricade push by Rousey. That was almost as bad as the Asuka/Carmella match.

[Baz]

Get some botch gifs up.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Finished now and it was pretty poor overall.

Best match was probably Reigns/Lashley or Styles/Rusev although neither were all that great.

Really bad booking for the Ironman match, especially the finish. I also didn't understand why Rollins didn't let Ziggler run with a minute left, that would have given him the countout win.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Baz:

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[Sir Andy Mahowry]

And one more:

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[wullie]

I reckon they got away with that last one (Nia Jax, not Kane). Sin Cara though, that mask must be cursed.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I reckon they got away with that last one (Nia Jax, not Kane). Sin Cara though, that mask must be cursed.

Yeah, the Nia/Bliss one is the least botchy because Nia managed to catch her although it was pretty low.

Also, the crowd were such fucking mongs.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

They took away the in-arena clock because of this. I've no idea why we have fans paying to see the guys in the ring, only to try and get themselves over.

They had the clock (and score) on the titantron.

[Browning]

According to someone who was there, they took the clock away until they started chanting shit like “where’s the clock” at which point it came back.

That’s the last time we get a non Reigns main event.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Yet, most of the Pittsburgh crowd will be seething every time we see Reigns headlining...

[Disco]

Well I have Omega v Naito from yesterday plus a whole show from this morning waiting for me at home. :drool:

There's also some mad looking match between Okada and Suzuki that appears to be held outside in the middle of the pouring rain.

[bruhnaldo]

Ya that Okada in the pouring rain shit looked awesome given his "rainmaker" bit

https://78.media.tumblr.com/342b8507d683dc86905f8a763c571550/tumblr_paslgvZ4wG1tggg88o1_500.jpg

[Queenslander]

Im having to pace myself this time around during the G1.

Jay White's match against Juice and the G1 against Okada are both must watches.

[wullie]

I don't know why anyone would be interested in all that nonsense when you could see James Ellsworth hanging upside down from a cage instead.

[Disco]

Thus far I would encourage people to seek out:

Yano v Ishii
ZSJ v Ibushi
Omega v Naito
Page v Elgin

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Just watched NXT and I think the tag team match was even better than the one they had in the Albert Hall.

Brilliant performance by all 4 in the match and I thought the ending was well worked.

[Queenslander]

Thus far I would encourage people to seek out:

Yano v Ishii
ZSJ v Ibushi
Omega v Naito
Page v Elgin

Page is going to be at least a ROH World Champion at some point in his career.

[Queenslander]

20 mins of Being the Elite has set up 6 months of story, including Jericho and the Bucks v Omega, Cody and Marty on the Cruise of Jericho. Also a few lines to Juice. :cool:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2zingb4.jpg

[Ian]

Bit cheeky of them to nick one of HHH's Wrestlemania entrances at the bottom there.


I don't know why anyone would be interested in all that nonsense when you could see James Ellsworth hanging upside down from a cage instead.

I would call that a low point but it's hard to identify one turd in the cesspool that was Extreme Rules.

[Disco]

Page is going to be at least a ROH World Champion at some point in his career.

If he doesn't break his neck first.

[SvN]

I watched Extreme Rules yesterday afternoon while ironing and packing for my holiday, and it was probably the worst PPV I've seen in years. I enjoyed Owens' bump, but the rest of the show was just abysmal. I found myself focusing on the ironing more than the TV.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Fucking lol at Reigns/Lashley to determine the number 1 contender a week after a PPV where they had a match attempting to become the number 1 contender.

I wouldn't have even put Reigns and Rollins (although he does deserve it based on what he's done this year) into the running after losing yesterday.

[wullie]

Lashley will go on to a Summerslam match against Hogan to determine once and for all which colour is best.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Lashley will probably take a knee for the national anthem just before the match too.

[Disco]

It's funny the things you notice in wrestling.

Like Danny Burch and his big pants, not so big that they're comical but big enough to be vaguely unsettling. Also, on NXT last week Adam Cole exposed a ghostly white knobbly knee and now I'm not sure I can take him seriously. Like when Cody Rhodes used to wrestle without kneepads and it was all I could look at during his matches.

[wullie]

Kofi Kingston and Chris Jericho with their weird muscle cleavage always creeps me out.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

Everything about Kona 'THE FINEST' Reeves is disturbing.

[wullie]

Alexa, what if John Morrison was a Hawaiian serial killer?

https://cdn.sescoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/kona-reeves-696x392.jpg

[Disco]

Everything about Kona 'THE FINEST' Reeves is disturbing.

He's known as 'Long Rock' when we watch nxt.

[Sir Andy Mahowry]

I've missed heel Orton.

Get him punting half of the roster again please.

[wullie]

The bit where he pulled at Jeff Hardy's goth earhole thing was one of the most gruesome things I've seen in ages, genuinely thought it was a prosthetic that he was going to rip off.

[Disco]

Todays afternoon musing: Bianca Belair.

What is an 'Est' and why is she one? Also, how do we feel about the hair? It doesn't seem quite within the spirit of the rules to me but then again it is in a 'Universe' where Big Show was allowed to have a hand cast in the shape of a club and Lex Luger got a metal plate installed in his arm.

[Ian]

Is just doing anything other than tying it up before whipping folk with it? Sounds like a breach of the spirit of the rules rather than the rules themselves.

Also a genuine reason for a future hair vs. hair match. :drool:


I've missed heel Orton.

Get him punting half of the roster again please.

I've missed nothing about any variant of Orton.

[wullie]

The thing where she deadlifts her opponents is ace, there will be something wrong if she doesn't make it huge the proper way, presented as a star for two weeks on the main roster before losing via distraction rollup.