The Ultimate WWE Thread

[Gray Fox]

So it's an Ambrose/Reigns final by the looks of that. Be interesting to see the winner of that, win dirty and go heel. Unless someone does there isn't a heel other than Bray that I can think of and he's busy.

[Lewis]

Roman Reigns vs Ziggler. Bray Wyatt interferes, costs Ziggler the match, and then feuds with him for six months (unsuccessfully) trying to coax out his dark side.

[Jeet]

Yeah looks like WWE given Roman a "hard" draw so he can overcome the odds bla bla bla

[Dan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTZc2jXWEAAOOFp.jpg

What a shambles :D Hasn't Breeze been on the main roster for about two weeks? And when did Kalisto or Titus O'Neil last compete in a singles match, let alone win one? Quite surprised R-Truth isn't in there as well.

I was going to say it was a massive slap in the face to all the midcarders, but then I remembered they don't exist. Probably a bit ambitious of WWE to go for a 16 person tournament when five or six of their top guys are unavailable. Might've been better to go with an 8 person tournament or a massive ladder match or something of the like so they don't have to expose the hideous lack of depth on their roster for everyone to see.

[Gray Fox]

In before the massive Stardust push.

[Jeet]

Could have put Swagger a former WHC in and even Sandow former MITB winner. I know they are fuck all now, but is Miz is in. Bo should have been in aswell. Former NXT champ, what has Kalisto done?

[Dan]

Lulzy spoiler for a RAW 'special guest' segment tonight.

Wayne Rooney is involved in the Barrett part of the show.

:D

[Ian]

The right hand side of that draw is a proper state.

Reigns vs. Ambrose has yawn written all over it.

[Gray Fox]

I just don't see who, other than Owens, could actually get away with beating Ambrose out of those lot. It won't be Owens either because it's too soon.

If it is Ambrose and Reigns then Sheamus needs to come out with a Rollins style cash in mid-match to make sure none of the two ruins their 'cherry pop' title.

[Ian]

Were this a tournament to face Reigns at the show I could see them have Owens beat Ambrose but then lose the crucial one and have him vs Ambrose at the PPV with somebody else getting the title shot. Owens isn't getting a title shot.

[Browning]

That spoiler is the very reason I stopped watching. Well, one of the many reasons. That sounds horrific.

[wullie]

Darren Fletcher completely ignored by everyone despite playing for The Manchester United for years, still having a better 2015 in WWE than Damien Sandow.

[Jeet]

Should had waited until SS for Taker and his jober brother to get their hands on Bray

[Ian]

A "This is awesome!" and two "Holy shit!" chants for a load of predictable guff. Good work, Manchester.

Three or four dodgy finishes for the matches as well.

A top-notch Raw all round.

[SvN]

A friend of mine went and he said seeing Undertaker live made up for what was a pretty shit event.

[Browning]

I can imagine that's true. I saw him back in the day at a Smackdown taping and it was incredible. Probably made better by the fact he was storyline injured and appeared out of the blue for a dark match.

[7om]

Raw shit? Shocking that.

[Weaver]

I went to Insurrextion 2003 and I got to see Rodney Mack in action, so you can all sod off.

[wullie]

I shook D'Lo Brown's hand at British Uprising 3, which also featured megastars AJ Styles, Spud and Hade Vansen who had that one vignette on Smackdown before assumedly dying.

[Ian]

Did you ask him when him and Regal are having their Ultimate European Championship match? Admittedly given they're at four apiece probably only the Mania main event slot following a four month feud would do it justice.

[wullie]

To be honest, I was too busy crying and trying to conceal my erection to concentrate on anything.

[7om]

Raw this week got 3.16 million views. Raw from Liverpool last year got 3.93 million. 20% of the audience gone in a year.

I'm throwing a party when we get into 2 million territory.

[SvN]

You're such a weirdo about the WWE.

[7om]

I know. It just bugs me how shit its become.

[Ian]

There has always been a lot of shit, it's just that there isn't now quite such a concentration of talent at the top end. I reckon the average is about the same, it's just that the peaks are less frequent.

[Lewis]

There wasn't any shit until whichever year I stopped being a child. None at all. So I think you're mistaken there, Webly.

[Ian]

I love watching Val Venis get his naked jacksy smacked by an irate Japanese as much as the next man, but still...

[7om]

Stay strong, Lewis.

[Disco]

Mark Mero and Barry Windham say hi, every fucking week.

The shit was always there but the good stuff was streets ahead, I've just passed King of the Ring 98 and it's about a million times better than anything even vaguely recent.

[wullie]

Eddie Guerrero died 10 years ago today. Cross post in 'things that make you feel old'

[Lewis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GqSNs93dos

Let's all watch that again. :drool:

[Disco]

Is that 10, 15, or 20 years after he should have retired?

[five time]

Selling that leg like a champ.

[Dan]

So Billy Gunn has been fired because he failed a PED test at a powerlifting competition in July that WWE didn't even know he was competing in. He's also been banned from powerlifting for 4 years.

What an odd story.

[Lewis]

Gunn's drug test at the meet came up with a 37-1 testosterone/epitestosterone ratio, well over the 4-1 limit, and he was suspended from powerlifting for four years.

:serious:

It's a 4:1 ratio to account for mega-athletes doing just enough gear to stay competitive. The actual 'normal' ratio is something like 1.2:1 for normal adults. What was he doing?

[Alex Ferguson]

What an ass, man.

[Ian]

Lads, I've got the '06 Rumble up next.The show as a whole looks fairly atrocious but does anybody have any strong opinions on the actual rumble match? Retrospectives on it seem a bit mixed and I'm loathe to sit through something if it is in fact megashit.

[Ian]

Also only just saw that Kalisto beat Ryback on Smackdown. Did not expect that.

[Jeet]

New Rey - need to boost the Mex's ratings.

[Browning]

Basically they wanted Kalisto Vs ADR.

[Dan]

Lads, I've got the '06 Rumble up next.The show as a whole looks fairly atrocious but does anybody have any strong opinions on the actual rumble match? Retrospectives on it seem a bit mixed and I'm loathe to sit through something if it is in fact megashit.

I have that show on DVD. It's pretty crap. Don't think there are even any great cameos. Not a particularly good show in general, to be honest. Cena/Edge might've been decent, but I'm pretty sure nothing else is worth bothering with.

[Ian]

Yeah that was the only non-Rumble match I was looking at.

Though I might watch Boogeyman squash JBL inside two minutes.

[Ian]

On the back of my D'Lo/Regal post I've just been looking at how a similar matches for other titles would lookand came across the fact that Bradshaw was a 17-time Hardcore champion. I know they had the 24/7 thing and loads of times when the title changed hands a bunch of times during the same show but still.

[Dan]

Does that count each time a title changed hands during the same match as a reign? Because that's not how WWE counts it, and I can't imagine Bradshaw winning 17 actual championships.

Crash Holly, maybe. Bradshaw, no.

[phonics]

Bradshaw won the Hardcore one 17 times during that period where he was getting pinned while waiting for his bags at the airport. No?

[wullie]

Raven was a 27-time Hardcore champion within a span of less than two years. Prestige!

[Weaver]

Does that count each time a title changed hands during the same match as a reign? Because that's not how WWE counts it, and I can't imagine Bradshaw winning 17 actual championships.

Crash Holly, maybe. Bradshaw, no.

Yeah, each title change was a 'reign.

Here's a three night tour of Canada from 2002 - new champion, who they beat, town and date:
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Kelowna, British Columbia 08-09-02
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Kamloops, British Columbia 08-10-02
Shawn Stasiak Tommy Dreamer Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02
Steven Richards Shawn Stasiak Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02
Tommy Dreamer Steven Richards Vancouver, British Columbia 08-11-02

[Lewis]

Wasn't there a pay per view where it changed hands about fifteen times? Trish Stratus (somebody with tits anyway) had it for about ten minutes I think.

[Browning]

Yea, I was going to say Raven smashed that. There's a few people with stupid number of reigns. Add in that one of Godfathers Hos had a reign and you can tell how prestigious it was.

[Shindig]

Wasn't there a pay per view where it changed hands about fifteen times? Trish Stratus (somebody with tits anyway) had it for about ten minutes I think.

Molly Holly. Patterson and Brisco took it from each other at some point, too.

[Browning]

Yea Molly Holly at WM18, though Trish did also win it, I think on RAW.

[Waffdon]

GRADO won the title last night :drool:

[7om]

https://youtu.be/Sd6twlfFIxY

[Trancemeister]

Yea Molly Holly at WM18, though Trish did also win it, I think on RAW.

One of Godfathers hoe's was also Hardcore Champion.

[Ian]

I thought Raw was doing really well (who'd have thought basing it around meaningful wrestling matches where everybody appeared to be trying would work?) until it decided to end with the least enticing of the night's big matches, not booking it to involve anything approaching a surprise and then finishing with a fucking Divas contract signing.

[Jeet]

So Taker and Kane destroyed all 4 members of the Wyatts last week and now they facing 2 members at SS.....

Roman's match was great. Got shit after, the Del Rio and Rey jnr jnr match was awful.

[Ian]

Wrestling logic. :drool:

Odd choice though, I just assumed it'd be a Survivor Series match. Do we have any of those actually booked yet?

[wullie]

Nothing yet, but they might throw some together on Smackdown because that's what counts as buildup now. When the tournament was announced I thought we'd at least have an 8-man series on the PPV, rather than just three matches.

[Lewis]

My and my friend were lolling at having the ladies contract signing as the main event, but then Paige dropped the dead brother crack and suddenly it was the best Raw moment in ages.

[Browning]

They have confirmed a 5 on 5 tag but named no names.

[Browning]

Survivor Series is now in doubt because Anonymous reported ISIS were targeting it. WWE say it's going ahead as planned... but that could change.

[Lewis]

I don't remember any pay pay views being beaten by terrorists when Don Cena was the champion. Funny that.

[Ian]

Google has Anonymous saying "Er, no, we didn't say that."

Anyway, in non-terrorist news that Survivor Series card is looking pretty weak. And whoever ends up in the 5v5 it's probably going to be a bit of a state.

[7om]

Survivor Series is not a big 4 PPV anymore.

I might watch tomorrow night to see how they close out this tournament. Hoping for an Ambrose heel turn.

[Gray Fox]

Someone's going to have to go heel, surely?

[Lewis]

It should be Roman Reigns for two reasons. One, nobody likes him anyway. Two, how would you even know if Dean Ambrose turned heel?

[Shindig]

At this point Reigns might as well borrow Dwayne's notes, join a heel stable and then wind up on Oprah talking about depression.

[Dan]

Survivor Series is not a big 4 PPV anymore.

Which one would you say has replaced it then? Money In The Bank?

[Shindig]

OSW review's X7 review is out. Its amazing.

[Browning]

Extra security for tonight's event. They REALLY don't want people getting in with CM Punk signs.

[7om]

Which one would you say has replaced it then? Money In The Bank?

Nothing has replaced it. They're barely hanging onto a "big three" these days.

[wullie]

I wonder if they'll exploit the ISIS thing. I'd have said no, but they have just closed Raw by using Ric Flair's dead son without telling any of the parents.

[five time]

Hopefully whoever turns doesn't end up joining 'the authority' and then trying to pussy out of every match or get disqualified for the next year. Seems like that's how they book every heel now, Baroque Lesnar aside.

[Dan]

Nothing has replaced it. They're barely hanging onto a "big three" these days.

That's probably true. SummerSlam is going to fall back to the pack, since it has nothing to make it stand out beyond the bullshit that usually comes with it. The Rumble is only worthwhile for the rumble match itself, and even then it's been pretty rubbish the last couple of years if I remember correctly.

At least MITB has some element of spectacle & importance, which is certainly more than can be said for SummerSlam & Survivor Series, but yeah, Rumble & Mania are the only two events with any real draw, particularly for casual fans, these days.

[Gray Fox]

With the rumble, it does help if you don't know who the winner of the match is going to be about 6 months in advance.

[Ian]

The best thing about the last Rumble was the title match which was superb.

Survivor Series needs to have a properly built-up 5 on 5 match and SummerSlam... I'm not sure what they can do with that other than have it be the culmination of a number of big feuds. But that'd require planning and stuff.

I assume that back in the days of world titles not being on the line every five minutes the thing with the big four was that there would always be a world title match?

[Jeet]

SS is the PPV I always hate the most due to theses 5 vs 5 crap. Because it's 5 on 5 the 1st guy gets pinned within 2 mins where if it was 1 on 1 the match it would have gone 10mins+ :face:

[Ian]

See also: the majority of tag team matches. Not inside two minutes but that's just what I'm going to call the Law of Inverse Resilience.

The more people in a team-based match (and even just in multi-person matches where people are on their own) the more quickly they get battered.

[7om]

Dan

Even MITB has lost something over the last few years for me purely because they mistreat so many of the winners. Ziggler and Sandow became jobbers, Sheamus has been inconsequential since he won it, Orton was booked like an arsehole when he had it. Rollins was booked better last year but nothing to shout about it. They need to realise that concepts like championships and MITB have to be treated with respect for people to actually care about the outcomes.

[igor_balis]

Same with the rumble.

[Ian]

Yeah the use of Sheamus has been bizarre. Yet another weak heel. Shock, horrow, etc. He was already onto a downer because Rollins' eventual cash-in was done so well so to have him looking so weak is poor.

[Dan]

Yeah, but terrible long term thinking when it comes to booking decisions is a problem across every event. At least with MITB we might get an exciting match out of it before everything goes to shit.

Anyways, what are we expecting to happen with the WWE title tournament tonight?

[Gray Fox]

Roman v Ambrose. One of them to win dirty. Either that or Reigns wins and Ambrose beats him down after the match.

[SvN]

You're all going to be disappointed. Roman will win clean and Ambrose will raise his arm after the match to endorse him.

[Ian]

Reigns is winning anyway so they may as well have Owens do something scabby to get past Ambrose, lose to Reigns and then have them two feud while Reigns begins his own feud with.... erm....

.....

Hmm.

Anyway, No Way Out 2006 up next. The final match (I think?) of Booker and Chris Benoit's series should be decent and I've already seen that Angle/Undertaker match but I'm going to watch it again.

[Dan]

You're all going to be disappointed. Roman will win clean and Ambrose will raise his arm after the match to endorse him.

Sadly, I think this is going to be pretty much the correct answer.

[Jeet]

Dan

Even MITB has lost something over the last few years for me purely because they mistreat so many of the winners. Ziggler and Sandow became jobbers, Sheamus has been inconsequential since he won it, Orton was booked like an arsehole when he had it. Rollins was booked better last year but nothing to shout about it. They need to realise that concepts like championships and MITB have to be treated with respect for people to actually care about the outcomes.

They always do that to MITB winners, they make them losers so WWE hopes fans will think he's not in line to get pushed or be ready to cash it in meaning it will be a big surprise when he does - it's not though.

[Lewis]

Survivor Series was good last year, and when they do the main match properly it's a great idea.

[Gray Fox]

You're all going to be disappointed. Roman will win clean and Ambrose will raise his arm after the match to endorse him.


Sadly, I think this is going to be pretty much the correct answer.

If this does happen I think that will be me done watching until Rollins comes back. Hopefully as a babyface.

[7om]

If this does happen I think that will be me done watching until Rollins comes back. Hopefully as a babyface.

My first thought was that when Rollins went down they'd have 'Hunter' go out on TV and trash him relentlessly. At least this way it'd give Rollins a ready made story to come back to as a babyface. I wouldn't be surprised to see him win MITB again next year.

[Browning]

I think whatever happens tonight I'll cancel the Network until the Rumble, I just don't use it anymore. I'll watch tonight until it puts me to sleep.

[Ian]

I dunno whether I'll stick with paying for it every month once I've watched all the stuff I want to watch. But then, I'm fucking ages away from that.

[Gray Fox]

My first thought was that when Rollins went down they'd have 'Hunter' go out on TV and trash him relentlessly. At least this way it'd give Rollins a ready made story to come back to as a babyface. I wouldn't be surprised to see him win MITB again next year.

I'd love to see him come back with more of his high-flying stuff too. Although with his knee being dodgy they might stop that. Also a new finisher please.

[Ian]

The Curb Stomp was absolute perfect for him. And on the subject of high-flying stuff, has he ever actually hit that Phoenix Splash? I know there's a lot of stuff (mostly the Shield stuff) I've not seen yet but it always seems to be a set up for some variety of miss.

Anyway, going through No Way Out 2006 and the whole Matt Hardy/Tatanka thing is fucking random. (Skipped that one.)

[SvN]

I only found out really recently that Tatanka came back in the 2000s and had another run. I loved him as a kid.

[Browning]

Well, my network isn't working, so fuck it.

[Ian]

In general or right now? Because mine was working fine earlier but now seems to be fucking about.

[SvN]

Yeah I can't get on either. Looks like it's down.

[Browning]

Didn't realise there was another hour til kick off. Still can't be bothered to stay up for it so will catch it tomorrow. If it's working by then.

[SvN]

Back up now

[SvN]

Goldust is back :drool: Nice surprise for the pre-show

[Ian]

Didn't even occur to me to watch a bit of the pre-show before I go to bed.

What's Goldust up to?

[Gray Fox]

I know it's pretty obvious where all this is going, but I'd love for them to give it to Owens. Reigns is so shit when he has to talk.

[igor_balis]

Reigns is just a dork isn't he.

[Dark Soldier]

Wait the fuck they don't just wheel out Undertaker for WM?

[Gray Fox]

This marks 25 years of the Undertaker(they keep going on about it). I imagine he'll win this and then turn up again for a retirement match just after the Rumble, leading to WM.

[Dark Soldier]

Ah right makes sense. I've barely followed wrestling in the past few years, this Tyler Breeze seems a cunt. Gather he's a future talent or summat.

[Gray Fox]

Yeah but the 'I'm so good looking' gimmick never lasts for long. He came through NXT, which is where most of the better guys on the roster are now coming from.

[Dark Soldier]

Cheers Gray, you got this on lock. Shame its absolute bollocks currently.

[Gray Fox]

That's improved it a little. :D

[igor_balis]

Okay, that was pretty great. Ha.

[SvN]

Got to laugh at that ending. A proper shit PPV overall, but the ending was great.

[Gray Fox]

Just like the Lesnar v Reigns match at WM, that was probably the best outcome.

[SvN]

Pretty sure he's legit crying.

[7om]

Absolutely awful show. They're not even trying anymore.

[Jeet]

According to sources close to ‪#‎WWE‬, ‪#‎Cesaro‬ may have torn rotator cuff. If he seeks surgery for this treatment, he could be out of action anywhere from four to six months.

[wullie]

Bad #news for him, and sales of Tyson Kidd sleeves.

[Browning]

Yea that was an awesome show but Sheamus teaming with his gym buddy was the best outcome.

[Lewis]

You knew something was up when the parade started, but given how they shat on Sheamus earlier in the night I just figured Triple Haitch would pedigree him and declare himself the winner.

It was pretty crap overall. Wasting Goldust on the pre-show as well fucking hell.

[Browning]

No idea why my post says it was awesome. I assume I meant to write awful. Because it was apart from the ending, and even that was just best case scenario after they booked the tourney badly.

[Jeet]

8mins the Roman and Ambrose match was :D

Jobbers all these months and sometimes not on ppv's, now WWE expects us to think Sheamus is a star. Same goes who Bray, no-one gives a fuck about his promos if he can't back it up.

[Ian]

As has been said already, fairly rubbish show but a good ending.


You knew something was up when the parade started

Yep. As soon as all that fuss was getting made something was clearly afoot. I briefly pondered some sort of Reigns heel turn until he was giving it the funny looks before HHH even got in the ring.

When Reigns/Ambrose started as though it were fifteen minutes into a 25 minute match I intentionally avoided looking at the time to see how long might be left because I'd wondered if there was a cash-in coming.

So Sheamus vs. Reigns for the next PPV anyway. Are they building up to having Reigns win his second Rumble in a row or is Cena going to come back and lol his way through that?

[Browning]

When HHH came out I figured it was going to be a lame "HHH pedigrees him" ending leading to a match between those 2 given that HHH Vs Rollins was seemingly planned.

[Jeet]

As soon as JBL said Ambrose has cleared the ring to leave Roman alone - You knew a cash in was happening.

[Pleb]

So Shitmus has the top belt?

I would laugh but you know...saw that coming. They probably won't give Reigns another legit shot to be fair.

[Lewis]

Sheamus dons it when he gets booked properly (not being John O'Cena), so he'll be fine.

[Browning]

Del Rio still has the top belt anyway.

[Jeet]

Bored of Del Rio aswell already. What a shit gimmick too. Looks like a right knob standing next Zeb saying feck all holding the flag especially all oiled up like that :D

I liked Sheamus when he was a heel first time around, but they made him such a joke when he became face that it's too late to comeback from that.

The only option they had was to book Roman as a heel with the lack of heels at the moment. Even with all the injuries the product hasn't changed.

[Lewis]

Good point (Browning obviously). He's also the best wrestler in the world until Don Cena comes back.

Speaking of which, I'm normally the first to call Dolph Ziggler a waste of time (mate you've been holding your knee for weeks), but what do they expect to gain by having him put Fandango II over? It's not like that twat is going places.

[Jeet]

Just to put over the NXT brand - See Adam Rose's first month.

Ziggler said he will retire in 2 years. He'll never be WWE champ now.

[Jeet]

Dean Ambrose Challenges Sheamus to Parking Lot Fight Before RAW

http://www.allwrestlingnews.com/wwe-news/dean-ambrose-challenges-sheamus-to-parking-lot-fight-before-raw/


Pat Patterson battled through 16 men on one hot, sweaty night in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to become the Intercontinental champion. He was backstage last night, probably with a tear in his eye

[wullie]

they made him such a joke when he became face that it's too late to comeback from that.


No such thing in wrestling. Mark Henry fathered a hand years before being the best thing in wrestling during the Hall of Pain.

[Ian]

Speaking Henry, lol at him getting beaten in about a minute on Raw.

The whole show was a bit pants, though I was surprised by how long the main event went on.

Are Rusev and Barrett like Sheamus' gang or actually part of the Authority or something now?

[Jeet]

Apart of European Ultra or whatever shit name it is called.

[Ian]

Have they been referred to as that on telly and I've just missed it/ wound through that bit?

[igor_balis]

I still don't fully understand the mental disorder I have that makes me spend huge amounts of time reading about the crazy world of professional wrestling despite barely watching it anymore. I've probably spent more time in the last 2 years listening to Lance Storm talking on podcasts than I have watching matches.

[Lewis]

I like the idea of a European stable (if it is a stable). Once our referendum campaign gets under way they should have Barrett turn face on them and get Nigel Farage in to manage him.

[Jeet]

Brad Maddox released by WWE

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12274574_1067548269934709_953983564648790310_n.jpg ?oh=cd7daebb603810b898335e9a9ea1f5b5&oe=56EF7894

[Pleb]

Was he the Turkey?

[Lewis]

Jimmy Fallon's laugh was the fakest thing about that sketch.

[igor_balis]

Just had a good chat with the independent wrestling promoter from the old louis theroux documentary on facebook. Geezer with the barbed wire in his van and shit, he's a decent bloke.

[Shindig]

Jimmy Fallon's laugh was the fakest thing about that sketch.

I really hate him. I can't understand how he does it. "Here's a funny sketch except I'm standing off to the side for most of it and maybe I'll say a line? Dunno, just watch me grin through this and try not to corpse."

[Jeet]

Apparently he got fired because he said "Cocky Pricks" in a promo

[Weaver]

I've just been reading some recent TNA results, and this week's episode of Impact wrapped up the first round of the TNA Championship tournament.

Gail Kim and Awesome Kong are the two qualifiers from the Knockouts group, and therefore are going to be wrestling Tigre Uno and Jessie Godderz in the Round of 16.

What's the point? Did they not have enough male wrestlers for a 32 person tournament? Am I looking for sense in a place that doesn't have any?

[Jeet]

TNA has signed a TV deal with POP TV. :D

Didn't Awesome Kong retire the other day?

[7om]

Just had a good chat with the independent wrestling promoter from the old louis theroux documentary on facebook. Geezer with the barbed wire in his van and shit, he's a decent bloke.

:D

So random. What did you talk about?

[igor_balis]

:D

So random. What did you talk about?

Asked if he kept in touch with Louis. "Yes I talked to him from time to time for a few years but then we lost contact. the last time he called me he was writing a book about his show, and said he may want to interview me, but i never heard back. We did have fun doing it. I hate i dont hear from him anymore. It was a fun experience"

Told him I'd go to an AIWF show if I was ever in the States. I'm such a loser that I probably would as well.

[Browning]

I think most people worked out who was winning the World Title Series before it even started based on all the tapings they have done. It's fucking laughable how many of the people in it aren't even with the company any more.

[Ian]

That Angle/Undertaker match is still a belter. Wrestlemania 22 up next. Card actually looks pretty solid.

Especially Boogeyman vs, Booker and Sharmell.

[Smiffy]

I watched Survivor Series last night and you've got to wonder about that ending. I personally think what should have happened is that HHH should have attacked Reigns and just booked a match right there and then for the title between the pair with Hunter winning. The Authority start to become overly powerful and Reigns constantly gets screwed. One night HHH puts title on the line against Reigns with the stipulation that the only way Reigns keeps his job is by HHH losing the title at whatever event. Both put on a hell of a match and HHH wins via another screwy decision as his on screen buddy Sheamus gets involved to cost Reigns his jobs. Celebrates with HHH before turning and cashing in on him. Monday night, HHH is livid and things go from bad to worse as the stipulation was Reigns would only lose his job if HHH lose his title. Sheamus finally gets over.

[Ian]

They probably could have gone for something a bit more interesting but HHH having the title again. :sick:

He probably will at some point, right enough.

[Gray Fox]

The problem I've seen with 'The Authority' from limited watching, is that it's dragged on too long. There's always been the heel GM/owner angle, with some kind of catchphrase("Best for business. In the interest of fairness, etc"), but there's always been a challenger. The last 2 I can think of were Don Cena, who can do it because he's the top guy on the card. The other being Bryan, who pulled it off through being so over with the crowd. Reigns is never going to be able to do it by himself unless he learns to talk.
The other problem with HHH/Steph is that they rock up one week and take all the heel heat, but then sometimes even later in the same show they act face.

They should have just let Reigns take the title imo. We all know it's coming soon, so why not give him a moment? But saying that, there was no top heel now that Rollins is gone. So I guess Sheamus and the now not-Russian Rusev are the best ways to go.

[Ian]

Yep, the Authority really are neither one thing nor the other.

[Browning]

The main problem is that Bryan Vs the authority felt real. Whether there's any truth in them not wanting him as the champ or whether that was just designed, it felt like you had to support Bryan to help him get there. With Reigns they are trying to manufacture the same situation while we all know they're wanking over him backstage. Just doesn't work.

[Pleb]

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:roflol:

[Shindig]

Feckin' Jaysus.

[Jeet]

Loads of factions now, yet jack all for SS...

League of Nations created last week, no-where to bee seen when Sheamus gets attacked...

[Ian]

I was never an ECW guy so I've just been disappointed when the Dudleys've twice failed to bring out Spike Dudley.

[Lewis]

Tommy Dreamer looked like a waxwork, but fortunately for him Rhyno looks like complete shit.

[Ian]

Rhyno looks like he's about 25 stone trapped inside enough skin for a 16 stone man.

[wullie]

EZ Money and Roadkill will show up on the PPV so the Wyatts can lose another feud.

[Ian]

Watching WM22. How long has HHH been doing these ridiculous entrances at Wrestlemania, then? :D Fucking hell.

EDIT: And yet this mobster thing between his and Cena's entrances is even worse.

EDIT again: No, shit, it's actually Cena's entrance. Fucking hell.

[wullie]

Keep your eyes out for a straight edge gangster among Cena's crew during that entrance.

[Ian]

Enjjoyed that match. Especially when you compared it to some-spots-and-a-finisher in the other title's triple threat.

Also loved the crowd being well into HHH battering Cena with a sledgehammer.

[Jeet]

Orton out until 2017, needs more surgery and even when he does return could be part time.

Looks like Bryan's and Sting's career is over too.

[Shindig]

What a shit thing for all involved.

[Yaysus]

I thought Bryan was cleared to wrestle months ago and that only the WWE docs refuse to clear him :serious:

[wullie]

That's the story, yeah.

[igor_balis]

Highly tempted to give NXT a go. Is it as good as everyone says?

[7om]

You're about a year late. It peaked in 2014 until early this year. Now it's nowhere near that quality but still worth a watch.

[Ian]

Watching Backlash '06 (well, the two matches on it that look worth watching... sorry HBK/God) and suddenly since whichever PPV I saw last where Shelton Benjamin wrestled he is a heel. His main heelish behaviour appears to be grinning and smugly and brushing his hands extravagantly.

[Jeet]

Sheamus, Owens & Wyatts @2.22 - £100 on

edit: Balls, Owens you knob. Did shit it after I placed it, should had back New Day. Won £700 over the weekend, so run ended.

[wullie]

You shouldn't be allowed to handle your own money.

This was good
http://i.imgur.com/fwUMHrR.gif

[Lewis]

I thought that was a good pay per view, bullshit at the end aside. Triple Haitch vs Roman Reigns at Royal Rumble (which he will probably fucking win again)? Ugh.

The tag match donned (they seem to be the best things at half of the pay per views these days), and the trombone spot was brilliant. I also thought Alberto 'Best Wrestler in the World' Del Rio vs Swack Jagger was particularly well done in terms of getting the former over as a shithouse. It's just a shame the pre-show mentioned Ricardo Rodriguez a couple of times getting my hopes up that he would come back.

[Browning]

The tag match was really good. Didn't watch the rest in full but may go back to Del Rio Vs Swagger. I just hate the concept of a "chairs" match but it looked good. The divas was mental. How have they fucked it up and made them both heels?

[Browning]

Stick RAW on for the first time in.... a year? And Vince McMahon is coming. :drool:

Unfortunately there's no chance he's the next segment, so I'll fuck it off before he does. But still. Vince. :drool:

[Browning]

I could have watched Vince all night. But there's no way I can survive another 2 hours to get to the title match so.... that's me done for about a year.

[Browning]

Didn't stay up but just read the results. What the fuck are they playing at?

[wullie]

Turns out Vince McMahon can get Roman Reigns over, all he had to do was show up.

[Browning]

Even that didn't really seem to work from the bits I saw. Reigns only getting a lukewarm pop against McMahon can't be a good sign.

[SvN]

He got a huge pop* when he got the 3 count.

*By today's standards

[Browning]

A title change on RAW will do that, I guess. I can't see it lasting long, but we will see. I half expect them to take the belt off him within a week.

[Jeet]

HHH vs Roman for the title

HHH to be champ again :drool:

[wullie]

They went madder for him last night than I've seen since he was the guy at the end of that Royal Rumble who wasn't Batista.

[Browning]

Wasn't it in Philly though? That's a good crowd in general.

[Jeet]

Philly was the crowd that first went against him

Everyone followed because Philly is cool

[wullie]

Last night was the same arena he won the Rumble in, and even Rock couldn't stop the boos that night. Vince McMahon being one of the best on-screen characters in history showed itself again on Raw.

[Smiffy]

.....

[Ian]

It would have been better as a surprise but "No Chance" hitting is my favourite Raw moment in ages.

Vincent Kennedy McMahon. :cool:

And that main event and ending was belting too. I was actually liking Sheamus as a champion as well, if only because he wasn't just a relentless coward and was actually challenging Reigns.

[Waffdon]

Jesus

[Lewis]

He'll still get shat on by the Royal Rumble crowd won't he? Who wins that now anyway? Baroque Les-nar? Don Cena. :drool:

[Ian]

It has to be Cena, doesn't it? I'd convinced myself Reigns was going back-to-back but clearly not and having Lesnar win it would be an utter waste of everybody's time.

[Smiffy]

.....

[wullie]

I'm going HHH as Rumble winner. If they're going to boo every winner until the corpse of Daniel Bryan is presented, might as well go with it properly.

[Jeet]

If they want major heat on HHH and get Roman over, have Bryan to return at the Rumble, with HHH knocking him out and taking his place and have Roman costing him the win

[wullie]

Daniel Bryan shouldn't be anywhere near it really. Something like that would be a little too transparent, even for WWE.

[Pleb]

I thought HHH was facing dah rock?

[Lewis]

Is Santino Marella back now? :cool:

[Disco]

Is Santino Marella back now? :cool:

Don't tease me, this could the most important development in a decade.

[SvN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku3A6vcUqm0&t=1m27s

[Lewis]

He was on Raw and said he was back, so I would also like confirmation. They've probably realised their current comedy jobbers are too shit, too fat, or too English.

[Disco]

Another episode of Teatime with Santino and I'll die happy.

[Jeet]

He's not back in as in back for good, just back for that night to present that crap award.

He has a similar injury to Edge

[Browning]

He was on Smackdown too.

[Jeet]

Well he can't wrestler, so could have some other role.

[Browning]

I can't see anything about him never being able to wrestle again. He had a bad injury and a set back after surgery but seemingly he was training for a comeback.

We will see though.

[Chrissy]

Sheamus, Owens & Wyatts @2.22 - £100 on

edit: Balls, Owens you knob. Did shit it after I placed it, should had back New Day. Won £700 over the weekend, so run ended.

You can bet on pre-determined events? That's fucking mental.

[Browning]

Is it? You can bet on who killed someone in eastenders or whatever too.

[wullie]

That's even worse as that was filmed in advance, at least with wrestling you always have the chance of Vince McMahon shitting himself and rebooking with a minute to go.

[Shindig]

Or a botched finish. Max Branning can fuck up his lines all he wants but Bradley's still jumping off that roof.

[Ian]

You can bet on pre-determined events? That's fucking mental.

The main difference with wrasslin' is that you know it's pre-determined, rather than being subject to shady betting syndicates in real sports.

You're just betting on what you think the writers will do.

[Chrissy]

The main difference with wrasslin' is that you know it's pre-determined, rather than being subject to shady betting syndicates in real sports.

You're just betting on what you think the writers will do.

That is absolutely batshit mental and akin to betting on soap opera outcomes as others have already stated.

You guys realise this isn't a sport yeah? I mean I enjoy watching it but i'm under no illusions that all this shit isn't pre determined. I can't get my head round a bookie accepting bets on it. Surely that is wide open to exploitation.

[Ian]

You guys realise this isn't a sport yeah?

You realise a couple of us have acknowledged that while answering your post?

[Ian]

Watching a couple of matches from ECW One Night Stand '06. The reception for Cena. :drool:

EDIT: The atmosphere for this match in general, really. Fucking hell.

[Browning]

Cena Vs Van Dam? It's the best crowd of all time.

Fucking hell, Owens got the jobber entrance and lost to Neville in about 15 seconds. :D

[Ian]

It's a bit there was that odd racist bit about bones through noses because it's so good having Vince back.

"I'm not a rich snob, I'M A FREAKIN' BILLIONAIRE."

[Lewis]

If Vince McMahon is so desperate for Roman Reigns to lose the title why is he pissing about giving Sheamus a shot? Don Cena is back, mate (somehow turning the crowd throwing his shirt back into a pop what a legend). Is this shit angle leading up to them bringing Baroque Les-nar back to do their dirty work? That would mean Les-nar going into 'Mania as the heel, and lol at the crowd going along with that.

[Ian]

They're making Reigns even more of a monster than they were when he was getting booed for winning the Rumble. I wonder if he's the one they're going to have properly beat Lesnar (because it's going to happen eventually.)

[Lewis]

It's surely going to be him. Don Cena doesn't need it, and nobody else (full-timers at least) is really credible.

[Ian]

It's got to be.

I'd like to have seen them have Rollins give him a better match but they're not going to have somebody who's not a brick shithouse beat him. And as you said, there's nothing to really be gained from having Cena do it.

[Shindig]

Dirtsheets and Melzer reckon Luke Gallows, Shinsuke Nakamura and AJ Styles have signed with WWE.

[Chrissy]

Dirtsheets and Melzer reckon Luke Gallows, Shinsuke Nakamura and AJ Styles have signed with WWE.


Bullet Club time perhaps?

[Jeet]

Has Luke Gallows been decent in Japan? Was used shit in WWE and TNA.

AJ - at last :drool:

Prob all come up after WM

[Browning]

Reigns has won the rumble then.

[Lewis]

This 'Social Outcast' jobber squad is something, and Stone Coldman Reigns has out-stayed his welcome.

[Jeet]

HHH to return and enter himself in the Rumble to beat Reigns :drool: The pop!

[Ian]

I would like the title being on the line during the Rumble more if it didn't make the outcome seem a bit inevitable.

[wullie]

The only thing that interests me with this feud is the remote possibility of a Shane O'Mac return to teach Reigns what's what.

[Ian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3cjyHctjo

[Jeet]

HHH wins the belt, The Rock competes for it at WM

[Lewis]

HHH to return and enter himself in the Rumble to beat Reigns :drool: The pop!

That would be pretty amazing. Ten years of crying about Triple Haitch burying people gone in an instant.

[7om]

When Reigns won the title I joked with one other geezer that Reigns will still win the Rumble and look at that. I mean fucking hell.

[wullie]

I don't think he's winning it, I can see him being screwed over by the McMahons and Triple H and whoever so we get the ROAD TO WRESTLEMANIA being the intrepid journey to win back the championship he kept getting easy title shots for all the time by the authority figures who hate him.

[7om]

70 years old :|

http://i.imgur.com/Ia1V1Iy.gif

[Lewis]

Somebody taking that much gear should have done a Macho Man years ago, so it's fair to say at this point that he's going to live forever.

[Jeet]

Looks like AJ will go straight to the main roster. The rest will prob go to NXT.

Better bring up Joe so we can have Joe vs AJ again

[Yeldoow]

AJ Styles is 38 years old. Isn't it a bit late to be bringing him into WWE?

I'd imagine given his status in TNA, ROH and NJPW he'd be coming in to be a main eventer, but without acknowledging those promotions what does he offer?

I don't see the point from his point of view in coming to WWE to piss around in the mid card for year or two.

[SvN]

I don't have any real first hand knowledge, but wreddit has been calling him the best wrestler in the world for a few years.

[7om]

Somebody taking that much gear should have done a Macho Man years ago, so it's fair to say at this point that he's going to live forever.

I have no idea about bodybuilding but do you think it's impossible for McMahon to have done that naturally, then?

[Disco]

It's not impossible just vanishingly unlikely given that it's Vince 'indicted for distributing steroids' McMahon.

[Lewis]

I suppose if the laws of nature don't apply to anyone then it's Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

[Browning]

That magazine cover of him back in the day just looked ridiculous, if I'm remembering right.

[Dan]

If they're signing Styles, Gallows AND Anderson they're surely just going to do their own version of Bullet Club. May as well chuck Balor back in there too. Nakamura's probably there so Bryan can get his match against him then retire, and then they'll just pair him with Itami & Asuka as Kaientai 2.0.

Has WWE still been shit the last few months? I've not watched in ages. Will obviously still be in for the Rumble, even if it is a sack of shit where Reigns is practically guaranteed to be final two at worst. Are there even any interesting feuds going on, or are they still exclusively relying on X v Authority for 70% of the airtime & New Day for 100% of the entertainment?

[five time]

Baroque win will the rumble.

[wullie]

If they're signing Styles, Gallows AND Anderson they're surely just going to do their own version of Bullet Club. May as well chuck Balor back in there too.

http://shop.wwe.com/Finn-B%C3%A1lor-%22B%C3%A1lor-Club%22-Authentic-T-Shirt/W10083,default,pd.html

They make the T-shirt first, work back from there

[Pleb]

684164111089971200

:cool: :wub: :drool:

[Shindig]

Somebody taking that much gear should have done a Macho Man years ago, so it's fair to say at this point that he's going to live forever.

Maybe he's been dead for years and it's actually Shane.

[Weaver]

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This is happening, isn't it? I don't think they'd acknowledge the rumours if it wasn't.

Interestingly, one of the things I read this morning reckoned that only Gallows and Styles are out of contract - Nakamura and Anderson aren't.

[Gray Fox]

Don Cena is now out with shoulder surgery which makes the whole rumble pointless.

Though being serious there's only one of 3 ways this can go. 1. Reigns wins because Vince always gets what he wants. 2. Lesnar wins it. 3. Someone big returns as a surprise and takes it. I've not watched in a while so I don't know how viable these are but it would have to be someone like Rollins(still probably out for another 6 months), Bryan, Undertaker or CM Punk(I know this one wont happen, but it would be nice). With Cena and Orton apparently out that doesn't leave a lot, so all answers point to number 1.

Unless Reigns somehow is/goes over by the end of it though, it could be bad news for ratings.

[SvN]

Totally fucked the Wrestlemania plans, I bet. Wonder if Vince will get on his knees and beg Austin to wrestle.