Kazakhstan Plane Crash

[John Arne]

Azerbaijan Airlines passenger plane heading from Baku to Grozny has crashed in Kazakhstan due to fog. Reported 105 on board.

Merry Christmas.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Better that than arriving in Grozny tbh.

[Baz]

What a strange thing to post first thing on Christmas morning. :henn0rz:

[Gray Fox]

The place it went down is quite strange considering where it was going from and to, no?

[Shindig]

It had to divert due to fog.

[John Arne]

What a strange thing to post first thing on Christmas morning. :henn0rz:

:D Late afternoon for me.

[Spikey M]

What a strange thing to post first thing on Christmas morning. :henn0rz:
:D

Any news on the sexuality of the pilot(s)?

[John Arne]

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[SincereTheRebel]

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Is that legit? Did they know prior they had issues, who would be filming it pre crash?

[Kikó]

It's the Kazakhstan YouTube channel үлкен реактивті теледидар.

[Pepe]

I'm getting on a plane in a couple of hours. Really makes you think.

[Magic]

:yn:

[Shindig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J04wUKZUCI

Huh. It's been MH17'ed.

[Ben]

Sounds like the Russians have confused a commercial airliner for a Ukrainian drone.

[Magic]

Sounds like the Russians have confused a commercial airliner for a Ukrainian drone.

UFO mad Americans do this all the time. I guess the only difference is they don't have ballistic missiles, thankfully.

[Kikó]

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

Oh Russia.

[niko_cee]

All part of the plan.

[Jimmy Floyd]

Putin must resign.

[Waffdon]

Wait, people survived the crash? I need their seat numbers

[Shindig]

I assume they were all in the rear as the tail section was largely intact.

[Ben]

They said the pilots survived though. Mental.

[Kikó]

:sherlock:

[Yevrah]

All part of the plan.

I mean, he (and arms manufacturers) are the only winners in this so far right? The West is spunking billions up the wall, Ukrainians are still dying, parts of the country are a literal war zone, he’s shooting passenger planes down with complete impunity (again) and we’re, what, 3 years into this now and there’s no sign of it stopping.

Still, moral high ground. WINNING.

[niko_cee]

If that's the logic then surely American arms manufacturers are also making out like bandits as well, which is why I've never understood the contrary/Donald Trump position. This is strategically great for the yanks. Advanced weapons testing, isolate and degrade a major strategic rival, ability to get rid of old inventory and all on someone else's coin in all likelihood, no body bags to ruin the optics, BlackRock BlackRock BlackRock!

Also, even if this is air defence gone wrong, it is still an accident.

[Shindig]

Yep. Plus Putin lost an ally in Syria over the course of this. God knows how many North Koreans have been minced.

[Lewis]

The only strategic rival the Americans are degrading with this is Europe, and they are more than happy to do so.

[niko_cee]

Even better then in DT's zero sum view of the world.

[Shindig]

Lewis' posts are going to hit different when his lass eventually gets done for spying.

[Pepe]

Does she work with you Lewis?

[Lewis]

She is one of our imported NHS heroes. My work actually prohibits me from going to Iran except under very exceptional circumstances (which I doubt anyone has ever tested), which is a bit of a result for not meeting a thousand relatives.

[Pepe]

Attending family events is the worst part of going to France, so you got quite the deal there.

Tell her I thank her for her service.

[Lewis]

I believe we would currently be arrested for cutting about publicly as an unmarried couple (unless we could blag being related, which we couldn't), so family events might have to do. :harold:

[Lewis]

I think as a non-Muslim I would also be executed if somebody caught us at it lol.

[Pepe]

Could you claim to own her?

[Lewis]

Maybe if I was a Muslim. Anything seems to go then.

[John Arne]

Putin has kinda of apologised for this. Makes a fucking change.

[Spikey M]

Lewis, how do you - of all people - get into a relationship with a NHS working, Muslim immigrant?

[Magic]

Putin has kinda of apologised for this. Makes a fucking change.

"I'm sorry you feel that way"

[Yevrah]

I could be seriously out of whack on this one but my guess would be that, like most men, his dick overrules his brain.

[Magic]

Lewis, how do you - of all people - get into a relationship with a NHS working, Muslim immigrant?

Keep your enemies closer and all that. I bet he's insufferable to be with, stat-bombing her constantly.

[Giggles]

I could be seriously out of whack on this one but my guess would be that, like most men, his dick overrules his brain.

Exactly, the small brain always rules the big one.

[Pepe]

Lewis, how do you - of all people - get into a relationship with a NHS working, Muslim immigrant?

You don't win back to back to back to back best poster awards in here without immense charisma. She never stood a chance.

[Pepe]

Maybe if I was a Muslim. Anything seems to go then.

Is conversion a thing? There must be some immense advantages to it. You can grow a beard, right?

[Spikey M]

Especially if the news kills his mother off before she can amend the will.

[Lewis]

The Persians have 2500 years of esoteric racism and anti-Indian sentiment running through their culture. For a sophisticated man of the world like me every day is a school day.

[Lofty]

I wish Taz was still here for this.

[Bam]

Lewis has been converted, Hull has fallen.

[John Arne]

Another one.

Jeju, S.Korea. Looks like a landing gear failure.

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[niko_cee]

Just about to board a flight to Austria. Was nice knowing you guys.

[Lofty]

This is because they didn't clap when it landed, isn't it.

[Manc]

9/11 aside, plane crashes are a bit of a letdown visually.

[Magic]

I dunno that last one was pretty tasty. Ain't nobody surviving that.

[Yevrah]

I’d have thought so too but it looks like two of the crew have survived long enough to not go straight to the morgue.

[Magic]

Jesus Christ. Is that a straight out the front window job?

[niko_cee]

Survived.

Aren't runways meant to have large run off areas to prevent the sort of thing that seems to have happened in Korea?

[Magic]

Jesus Christ. Is that a straight out the front window job?

No they were at the tail, apparently.

[Shindig]

Given what's going on politically in South Korea, I wouldn't rule out foul play.

EDIT: And by foul play I mean FOWL play. Bloody birdstrike.

[John Arne]

Survived.

Aren't runways meant to have large run off areas to prevent the sort of thing that seems to have happened in Korea?

They have it, but apparently closed for renovation.

[niko_cee]

https://bbc.com/news/articles/c0mvynnxzzmo

Days ahead of the so called experts.


Aviation experts have raised questions about an "unusual" concrete wall near the runway and its role in the South Korea plane crash that killed 179 people.

Air safety expert David Learmount said that if the "obstruction" was not there, the plane "would have been come to rest with most - possibly all - those on board still alive".

[Shindig]

I still don't understand why the gear and flaps weren't deployed for landing. Birdstrikes wouldn't normally mess with hydraulics like that.

[niko_cee]

Use the manual override for landing gear and flaps was probably point 225 on the plane's about to crash checklist.

[Shindig]

They were attempting to land. A landing they were cleared to do. You don't okay that without thinking about putting the gear down.

[Clunge]

Bird strike taking out both engines at relatively low altitude would require a lot of key decisions to be made vvv quickly. That could have resulted in the landing gear not being lowered, owing simply to time or a failure (a double engine failure could well cause further collateral damage). The footage appears to suggest the pilots actually made a pretty good emergency landing, the plane was down and skidding on the fuselage without any discernible structural damage and they clearly got it well lined up. If it had have been a landing gear failure on touchdown, I'm sure we would have seen this or know this already.

[niko_cee]

Mr Learmount said the landing was "as good as a flapless/gearless touchdown could be: wings level, nose not too high to avoid breaking the tail" and the plane had not sustained substantial damage as it slid along the runway.

"The reason so many people died was not the landing as such, but the fact that the aircraft collided with a very hard obstruction just beyond the runway end," he said.

No Shully sequel I guess.

[Lofty]

Use the manual override for landing gear and flaps was probably point 225 on the plane's about to crash checklist.

Didn't they say that about Sully? If they followed the handbook they'd be dead, only Sully's experience had them cycle through things quicker and make an assessment that saved them all.

[Magic]

There are hints of complete failures among the pilots, and all to do with that Asian hierarchy. This will make for another awesome air crash investigation episode like the Japanese one.

[niko_cee]

The pilot said the wheels were down and rather than correct him hierarchical protocol demanded everyone be condemned to a fiery doom.

Bonin!

[Jimmy Floyd]

Apparently our friends Gen Z see Korea as THE aspirational culture, in the way that say in the 90s we would have seen America as such. Is there anything they don't get completely wrong?

[Pepe]

Don't young Koreans hate it there?

[Lewis]

I often refer to 'someone I know who worked with Koreans' when the opportunity to disparage the Orientals comes up.

[Jimmy Floyd]

I was made to regale my current colleagues about them at the recent Christmas do. 'Forced drinking games with the boss' ooooh 'Women can only be promoted to a certain point' aaahhh. It's a guaranteed crowd pleaser.

[niko_cee]

Apparently our friends Gen Z see Korea as THE aspirational culture, in the way that say in the 90s we would have seen America as such. Is there anything they don't get completely wrong?

Nope (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2621gzvkdo)

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